1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,467 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine 2 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:16,627 Speaker 1: from News Talks, ed B Crouch hold Engage Weekend Sports 3 00:00:16,827 --> 00:00:20,507 Speaker 1: with Jason Pain and GJ. Counther Homes, New Zealand's first 4 00:00:20,547 --> 00:00:22,387 Speaker 1: trusted home builder, News Talks. 5 00:00:22,187 --> 00:00:25,267 Speaker 2: Ed B just on nineteen Away from two. James McCartney 6 00:00:25,347 --> 00:00:27,907 Speaker 2: joins us around this time every Sunday. Although I've come 7 00:00:27,947 --> 00:00:30,347 Speaker 2: to you slightly early today because I've got a number 8 00:00:30,387 --> 00:00:32,387 Speaker 2: of questions to ask you. James, you can just add 9 00:00:32,427 --> 00:00:33,267 Speaker 2: it to your and voice. 10 00:00:33,387 --> 00:00:33,947 Speaker 3: Is that okay? 11 00:00:34,547 --> 00:00:37,347 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine. But like Jen, you've got some questions 12 00:00:37,387 --> 00:00:42,467 Speaker 4: on your main you know, smash mouth, come on, someone 13 00:00:42,507 --> 00:00:45,787 Speaker 4: please in the library. 14 00:00:45,987 --> 00:00:48,987 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's part of one of my Spotify playlists. 15 00:00:49,027 --> 00:00:49,587 Speaker 3: I know it is. 16 00:00:50,387 --> 00:00:54,027 Speaker 4: That's proof. I'm just gonna get kicked out of South Auckland, 17 00:00:54,027 --> 00:00:56,707 Speaker 4: which is where I'm talking to you from XIM and Patuma. Oh. 18 00:00:57,267 --> 00:00:59,547 Speaker 4: I'm here at Patumahoye Rugby Club. I'm going to be 19 00:00:59,587 --> 00:01:02,307 Speaker 4: here for a for an event at lunch next weekend 20 00:01:02,587 --> 00:01:03,347 Speaker 4: next Friday. 21 00:01:03,867 --> 00:01:05,947 Speaker 3: Excellent. We you're just scoping the place out. 22 00:01:06,627 --> 00:01:08,187 Speaker 4: I'm scoping and how I'd like to have a look 23 00:01:08,227 --> 00:01:11,307 Speaker 4: around and you see what the what the speakers are like, 24 00:01:11,347 --> 00:01:14,507 Speaker 4: you know, just to make sure it's all tickety boo excellently. 25 00:01:14,667 --> 00:01:16,507 Speaker 2: Well, while we've got you can I move on to 26 00:01:16,587 --> 00:01:20,547 Speaker 2: my list of topics, the first of which is unselected 27 00:01:20,587 --> 00:01:23,347 Speaker 2: all blacks, or those who might have thought they were 28 00:01:23,347 --> 00:01:25,787 Speaker 2: in the frame, probably were in the frame for selection 29 00:01:26,027 --> 00:01:27,427 Speaker 2: in the first all black squad. 30 00:01:27,107 --> 00:01:27,467 Speaker 3: Of the year. 31 00:01:27,667 --> 00:01:30,707 Speaker 2: Didn't hear their names read out earlier this week? So 32 00:01:31,067 --> 00:01:33,867 Speaker 2: what now for them? And I'll give you a specific example. 33 00:01:34,187 --> 00:01:36,107 Speaker 2: What does Hoskin Satutu do now? 34 00:01:37,427 --> 00:01:40,707 Speaker 4: Well, for Hoskins, I think it's going to be tempting 35 00:01:40,787 --> 00:01:44,667 Speaker 4: to go. He's got options. He could play for Fiji 36 00:01:45,107 --> 00:01:49,147 Speaker 4: because of his dad, Wisaki, who could play for England 37 00:01:49,147 --> 00:01:51,587 Speaker 4: because of his mum. So he qualifies for either and 38 00:01:51,627 --> 00:01:54,267 Speaker 4: he could be playing for either nation by the end 39 00:01:54,307 --> 00:01:56,707 Speaker 4: of next year. It means he had missed out on 40 00:01:56,747 --> 00:02:00,667 Speaker 4: the Lions. Imagine that him turning up in Australia playing 41 00:02:00,667 --> 00:02:03,267 Speaker 4: for the Lions. But that could be his future. And 42 00:02:03,347 --> 00:02:06,187 Speaker 4: if you break it down, like his dream was to 43 00:02:06,187 --> 00:02:08,067 Speaker 4: be all black, he became an all Black, but it 44 00:02:08,147 --> 00:02:10,267 Speaker 4: was also his dream to become a great all black. 45 00:02:10,307 --> 00:02:14,787 Speaker 4: And that's really you know, to solidify his position now 46 00:02:14,827 --> 00:02:18,107 Speaker 4: and in a nation of five million that it's still 47 00:02:18,107 --> 00:02:21,027 Speaker 4: a big deal. And if you break it down even further, 48 00:02:21,187 --> 00:02:25,467 Speaker 4: say there's two million rugby fans, hard called rugby fans. 49 00:02:25,547 --> 00:02:28,387 Speaker 4: That's who you're you know, that's who you're playing for 50 00:02:28,507 --> 00:02:31,427 Speaker 4: if you like. Whereas as soon as you step on 51 00:02:31,427 --> 00:02:34,267 Speaker 4: that plane and you go overseas, you broaden your horizons 52 00:02:34,827 --> 00:02:37,987 Speaker 4: and you know you're playing for England, country of sixty million, 53 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:45,027 Speaker 4: and maybe that becomes what you your perspective, you change 54 00:02:45,027 --> 00:02:48,707 Speaker 4: your sights and it becomes playing under and listen to 55 00:02:48,707 --> 00:02:52,027 Speaker 4: the annoying English fans singing Sweeten Swinglows, sweet Chariot. That 56 00:02:52,067 --> 00:02:52,947 Speaker 4: becomes your life. 57 00:02:53,467 --> 00:02:54,267 Speaker 3: Do you think he'll go? 58 00:02:56,067 --> 00:02:58,627 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I know he'd be tempted 59 00:02:58,627 --> 00:03:02,107 Speaker 4: to stay and prove people wrong, but I don't know. 60 00:03:02,147 --> 00:03:04,187 Speaker 4: I think at twenty five he could go and have 61 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:07,227 Speaker 4: a really great Test career overseas. To me, England would 62 00:03:07,267 --> 00:03:09,587 Speaker 4: be the landing spot if you really want to go 63 00:03:09,827 --> 00:03:13,187 Speaker 4: and and docing where that you know they've got a 64 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:15,827 Speaker 4: really great Test season, You've got six nations to look 65 00:03:15,867 --> 00:03:19,667 Speaker 4: forward to. There's nothing wrong with playing for Fiji either, 66 00:03:19,707 --> 00:03:21,667 Speaker 4: but they just don't have the same Test calendar that 67 00:03:21,707 --> 00:03:24,627 Speaker 4: England have, you know, the Autumn Internationals and all that 68 00:03:24,627 --> 00:03:26,947 Speaker 4: sort of thing as well, and the potential to play 69 00:03:26,987 --> 00:03:29,987 Speaker 4: for the Lions. So maybe that would be enough to 70 00:03:30,187 --> 00:03:33,907 Speaker 4: entice them. But sometimes Kimi kids have to look elsewhere 71 00:03:33,907 --> 00:03:38,107 Speaker 4: and get their their motivation or their drive or their 72 00:03:38,187 --> 00:03:40,787 Speaker 4: you know, reassess their goals. 73 00:03:41,707 --> 00:03:43,427 Speaker 2: I know that there was a lot of clamor for 74 00:03:43,507 --> 00:03:46,107 Speaker 2: him to be included after a terrific Super Rugby season. 75 00:03:46,107 --> 00:03:48,307 Speaker 2: No one's arguing with the way he played for the 76 00:03:48,307 --> 00:03:51,387 Speaker 2: Blues and a title winning season. But Artie Savia is 77 00:03:51,427 --> 00:03:54,427 Speaker 2: by daylight the best number eight probably in the world 78 00:03:54,507 --> 00:03:57,747 Speaker 2: and certainly in New Zealand. So would Hoskins actually have 79 00:03:57,827 --> 00:03:59,867 Speaker 2: played a lot for the All Blacks anyway in the 80 00:03:59,867 --> 00:04:00,427 Speaker 2: big games. 81 00:04:01,147 --> 00:04:03,227 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe not, but then you're 82 00:04:03,227 --> 00:04:08,187 Speaker 4: comparing different players. Artie Savier is under size, small number eight, 83 00:04:08,227 --> 00:04:11,387 Speaker 4: an amazing athlete and that's why he plays big. But 84 00:04:11,507 --> 00:04:15,027 Speaker 4: then Hoskins satutu. I think at test level the temptation 85 00:04:15,067 --> 00:04:17,747 Speaker 4: would better use it because he's just got those other 86 00:04:17,787 --> 00:04:21,467 Speaker 4: physical tools that we haven't seen at number eight for 87 00:04:21,507 --> 00:04:24,787 Speaker 4: a while for New Zealand. So look, I think he 88 00:04:24,787 --> 00:04:26,627 Speaker 4: can play other positions. I think he could play at 89 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:31,267 Speaker 4: number six as well, but then he's pretty much fashioned 90 00:04:31,347 --> 00:04:35,827 Speaker 4: himself as a specialist. Number eight in a country like 91 00:04:36,187 --> 00:04:39,707 Speaker 4: England or Fiji would just I'd love to have him. 92 00:04:39,747 --> 00:04:42,987 Speaker 4: So why not go somewhere where you're totally in demand 93 00:04:42,987 --> 00:04:44,987 Speaker 4: and when people would welcome you with open arms. 94 00:04:45,187 --> 00:04:47,147 Speaker 2: Indeed, yeah, it's a very good point. We'll wait and 95 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:51,147 Speaker 2: see what the next move is for Hoskins Stutu. Over 96 00:04:51,187 --> 00:04:52,787 Speaker 2: the last week, in fact, over the last four or 97 00:04:52,827 --> 00:04:55,627 Speaker 2: five days, we've seen the bounce back ability of a 98 00:04:55,627 --> 00:04:58,267 Speaker 2: couple of rugby league sides. We saw New South Wales 99 00:04:58,307 --> 00:05:01,267 Speaker 2: reverse what happened in Game one against Queensland in the 100 00:05:01,267 --> 00:05:03,747 Speaker 2: second game of State of Origin, and then yesterday we 101 00:05:03,747 --> 00:05:06,347 Speaker 2: saw the Warriors bounce back from a sixty point defeat 102 00:05:06,707 --> 00:05:08,587 Speaker 2: to beat last year's Grand Final. Let's all be it 103 00:05:08,587 --> 00:05:11,827 Speaker 2: without a couple of players, the Broncos in reasonable, reasonably 104 00:05:11,827 --> 00:05:15,667 Speaker 2: comfortable fashion amount smart. So what can we take from 105 00:05:15,707 --> 00:05:18,067 Speaker 2: this the You know, a team is very good one 106 00:05:18,107 --> 00:05:20,427 Speaker 2: game and then or not that good one game and 107 00:05:20,467 --> 00:05:22,747 Speaker 2: then very good the next. What can we take from this? 108 00:05:23,547 --> 00:05:25,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was mugling this over Poneer. I do remember 109 00:05:25,627 --> 00:05:27,547 Speaker 4: you did a great segment on your radio show with 110 00:05:27,587 --> 00:05:30,587 Speaker 4: that high performance coach from Australia, So maybe we need 111 00:05:30,627 --> 00:05:33,507 Speaker 4: to get someone with a few bit more expertise than me. 112 00:05:33,627 --> 00:05:39,147 Speaker 4: But it really piqued my interest because of the massive defeat, 113 00:05:39,387 --> 00:05:42,067 Speaker 4: the sixty point defeat, and then of course New South 114 00:05:42,107 --> 00:05:47,467 Speaker 4: Wales really absolutely spanking Queensland, who are considered, you know, 115 00:05:47,627 --> 00:05:52,427 Speaker 4: the elite team in the sport. Really so I think 116 00:05:52,427 --> 00:05:55,667 Speaker 4: it just shows the fine margins that anything can upset 117 00:05:55,707 --> 00:05:59,627 Speaker 4: the apple cart. And if the Warriors just not firing, 118 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:03,427 Speaker 4: not finding their mojo over it on the Gold Coast 119 00:06:03,987 --> 00:06:06,707 Speaker 4: to come back and play that well, yes, the the 120 00:06:06,747 --> 00:06:10,107 Speaker 4: Brisbane were missing a few stars, but that again points 121 00:06:10,107 --> 00:06:12,947 Speaker 4: to the fine margins. So for me as a chiefs fan, 122 00:06:13,067 --> 00:06:16,547 Speaker 4: I was so gutted by that Super Rugby Final, but 123 00:06:16,587 --> 00:06:18,707 Speaker 4: I look at it and think, well, if you don't 124 00:06:18,747 --> 00:06:21,667 Speaker 4: have things in place, for example, you two best hookers, 125 00:06:21,987 --> 00:06:24,707 Speaker 4: if you don't have you know, a great game plan 126 00:06:24,907 --> 00:06:28,867 Speaker 4: in the wet weather conditions, then everything can snowball against you. 127 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:31,907 Speaker 4: And all these teams are so good that they will 128 00:06:31,907 --> 00:06:34,587 Speaker 4: make you pay time and time again in the same 129 00:06:34,627 --> 00:06:38,187 Speaker 4: way that maybe a referee can then affect you. And 130 00:06:38,787 --> 00:06:41,187 Speaker 4: that can decide a game. But I think this really 131 00:06:41,227 --> 00:06:45,667 Speaker 4: says that the fine margins between success and failure, the 132 00:06:45,747 --> 00:06:48,667 Speaker 4: fine line between pleasure and pain. Piney, you know, have 133 00:06:48,747 --> 00:06:49,467 Speaker 4: you got that song? 134 00:06:49,907 --> 00:06:51,827 Speaker 3: I do? I know that song A very fine line. 135 00:06:51,947 --> 00:06:52,907 Speaker 3: Was it the Vinyls? 136 00:06:53,947 --> 00:06:55,747 Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, I think it was. 137 00:06:57,547 --> 00:07:01,827 Speaker 3: What did they sing that one about? Myself? Yes? I 138 00:07:01,867 --> 00:07:04,627 Speaker 3: wonder why I gravitated to that particular artist. I'm not sure. 139 00:07:06,987 --> 00:07:08,627 Speaker 3: Let's move on to some football. 140 00:07:09,027 --> 00:07:11,627 Speaker 2: The football Ferns will be heading to the Paris Olympic Games, 141 00:07:12,027 --> 00:07:14,427 Speaker 2: but they won't have their head coach, Yittka klum Kova 142 00:07:14,547 --> 00:07:19,507 Speaker 2: has not resigned, but stepped down as coach. Michael Maine, 143 00:07:19,547 --> 00:07:22,267 Speaker 2: the assistant coach who took them in their recent window 144 00:07:22,667 --> 00:07:26,307 Speaker 2: against Japan, will again take the reins in Paris. This 145 00:07:26,387 --> 00:07:29,347 Speaker 2: is a very, very curious situation. I've tried my hardest 146 00:07:29,387 --> 00:07:31,627 Speaker 2: to get some answers out of New Zealand football and 147 00:07:31,667 --> 00:07:33,187 Speaker 2: get somebody to come on the air and talk about it. 148 00:07:33,187 --> 00:07:35,587 Speaker 2: But without any joy, What have you made of all 149 00:07:35,627 --> 00:07:35,787 Speaker 2: of this? 150 00:07:36,827 --> 00:07:39,867 Speaker 4: Well, I guess I can only talk about rumored conjecture. 151 00:07:39,907 --> 00:07:42,067 Speaker 4: But I mean you and I have both got I 152 00:07:42,067 --> 00:07:45,387 Speaker 4: guess contacts close to the team I mean, I heard 153 00:07:45,387 --> 00:07:47,947 Speaker 4: that Yitka just lost the dressing room, So that was 154 00:07:48,027 --> 00:07:51,387 Speaker 4: the situation, and a lot of traditionalists out there will say, 155 00:07:51,387 --> 00:07:54,187 Speaker 4: we'll play powers out of control. But in a situation 156 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,427 Speaker 4: like this, you've got some people who've probably got more 157 00:07:56,907 --> 00:08:01,667 Speaker 4: experience than Yitka in the sport, and it's quite hard 158 00:08:01,707 --> 00:08:04,267 Speaker 4: to argue your point when someone's saying, well, I'm going 159 00:08:04,347 --> 00:08:07,707 Speaker 4: to tell something completely different from my club, who's got 160 00:08:07,707 --> 00:08:10,227 Speaker 4: one of the greatest coaches of all time. So and 161 00:08:10,267 --> 00:08:13,107 Speaker 4: I think this is where it started to unravel, and 162 00:08:13,147 --> 00:08:16,387 Speaker 4: there were some really bad selections. I feel like even 163 00:08:16,427 --> 00:08:20,427 Speaker 4: before this came to a head. I think a year ago, 164 00:08:20,467 --> 00:08:23,947 Speaker 4: before the World Cup, was it Mikaela Moore Pony helped 165 00:08:23,947 --> 00:08:25,107 Speaker 4: me out here. I think it's. 166 00:08:25,627 --> 00:08:30,027 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, wasn't selected for the World Cup, yep, yep, yeah. 167 00:08:30,067 --> 00:08:32,507 Speaker 4: And I know she's famous for scoring an own a 168 00:08:32,547 --> 00:08:34,867 Speaker 4: hat trick of own goals, but there was no doubt 169 00:08:34,867 --> 00:08:36,547 Speaker 4: that she was one of the senior pros and one 170 00:08:36,587 --> 00:08:39,467 Speaker 4: of the top players in that team. So things like 171 00:08:39,547 --> 00:08:42,307 Speaker 4: that really started to raise eyebrows. But I think there's 172 00:08:42,307 --> 00:08:46,547 Speaker 4: more that I don't think they believe in her coaching philosophy, 173 00:08:46,627 --> 00:08:49,547 Speaker 4: it's really tough for them to gel in any way. 174 00:08:50,147 --> 00:08:53,587 Speaker 4: And and look, the football fans, they are a tight 175 00:08:53,707 --> 00:08:58,187 Speaker 4: unit and and I think they've contributed to a downfall. 176 00:08:58,267 --> 00:09:01,227 Speaker 2: Really yeah, I tend to agree that's the that's the 177 00:09:01,307 --> 00:09:04,187 Speaker 2: kind of the the Yeah. The guts of the rumors 178 00:09:04,187 --> 00:09:06,667 Speaker 2: that I hear as well is that there's there's by 179 00:09:06,747 --> 00:09:08,667 Speaker 2: the sounds of it just been a complete breakdown in 180 00:09:08,667 --> 00:09:12,627 Speaker 2: communicat or breakdown in the relationship, sorry, between a cohort 181 00:09:12,627 --> 00:09:16,707 Speaker 2: of players and their coach. And look, I don't know 182 00:09:16,947 --> 00:09:18,627 Speaker 2: what you think, but it just doesn't seem to me 183 00:09:18,667 --> 00:09:21,587 Speaker 2: as though there's any way back now for Yittka Klimkover 184 00:09:21,707 --> 00:09:23,907 Speaker 2: into this role. I mean, she's been given a six 185 00:09:24,067 --> 00:09:26,987 Speaker 2: year deal which takes her through to the next World Cup, 186 00:09:26,987 --> 00:09:31,707 Speaker 2: which in itself is a pretty interesting contract length. But 187 00:09:31,867 --> 00:09:33,747 Speaker 2: I just don't know that I see her way back 188 00:09:33,787 --> 00:09:34,307 Speaker 2: for her. 189 00:09:35,387 --> 00:09:37,747 Speaker 4: Well, the only way back is really for a whole 190 00:09:37,787 --> 00:09:40,347 Speaker 4: swavee of senior players maybe to leave and then she 191 00:09:40,427 --> 00:09:43,507 Speaker 4: can work with the young ones coming through. But I 192 00:09:43,507 --> 00:09:46,067 Speaker 4: think this is going to be it's going to be tough, 193 00:09:46,267 --> 00:09:48,507 Speaker 4: and I think they'll be going through some pretty serious 194 00:09:48,547 --> 00:09:51,867 Speaker 4: negotiations to work out a way to move forward, because 195 00:09:53,347 --> 00:09:55,347 Speaker 4: this is the problem with these things. We just don't 196 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:59,627 Speaker 4: know how broken The relationship is obviously pretty bad, but 197 00:09:59,707 --> 00:10:03,667 Speaker 4: also where the coaching philosophy doesn't deal with with what 198 00:10:03,707 --> 00:10:07,707 Speaker 4: we'd say is modern or you know, up to date 199 00:10:07,907 --> 00:10:10,867 Speaker 4: methods of coaching. That's where I feel like there was 200 00:10:11,027 --> 00:10:14,907 Speaker 4: really a big divide there, and and it's hard for 201 00:10:14,947 --> 00:10:16,987 Speaker 4: one person just to sort of call their way back 202 00:10:17,027 --> 00:10:20,267 Speaker 4: when when the team, especially if the team flourishes without 203 00:10:20,307 --> 00:10:22,787 Speaker 4: here having said that, they're in a group of death 204 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:26,027 Speaker 4: over there and the Olympics, so I mean it's going 205 00:10:26,107 --> 00:10:26,787 Speaker 4: to be tough for them. 206 00:10:27,067 --> 00:10:28,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, tough to get out 207 00:10:28,667 --> 00:10:30,507 Speaker 2: of that group they got. Yeah, they got a real 208 00:10:30,587 --> 00:10:33,027 Speaker 2: tough time of things. I just want to finish on football, actually, 209 00:10:33,027 --> 00:10:35,947 Speaker 2: the Euros. I watched Germany beat Denmark to nil this 210 00:10:36,027 --> 00:10:39,787 Speaker 2: morning and also watched with great interest Switzerland beat Italy. 211 00:10:40,147 --> 00:10:42,627 Speaker 2: This is a pretty poor Italian side, it must be said, 212 00:10:42,627 --> 00:10:44,427 Speaker 2: and maybe they're win at the last Euros was a 213 00:10:44,427 --> 00:10:46,027 Speaker 2: bit of an outline because they haven't been that good 214 00:10:46,027 --> 00:10:46,747 Speaker 2: for quite a while. 215 00:10:46,787 --> 00:10:46,987 Speaker 4: Now. 216 00:10:47,707 --> 00:10:51,227 Speaker 2: England plays Slovakia tomorrow morning for the right to take 217 00:10:51,267 --> 00:10:56,707 Speaker 2: on Switzerland in the quarterfinals. England have not exactly reached 218 00:10:56,707 --> 00:10:59,627 Speaker 2: any great heights at this European Championship. Do you think 219 00:10:59,627 --> 00:11:02,627 Speaker 2: they're about to to be, you know, to surprise us 220 00:11:02,627 --> 00:11:03,907 Speaker 2: all with a run to the final? 221 00:11:05,227 --> 00:11:05,867 Speaker 4: Look I hope. 222 00:11:05,907 --> 00:11:05,987 Speaker 1: So. 223 00:11:06,187 --> 00:11:08,507 Speaker 4: I've got a soft spot for the England football team 224 00:11:08,547 --> 00:11:12,027 Speaker 4: and that team alone really on English women's rugby team's 225 00:11:12,067 --> 00:11:15,227 Speaker 4: kind of cool too. But the issue there is the've 226 00:11:15,227 --> 00:11:20,307 Speaker 4: coften spluttered through, but they have been pretty tight on defense. 227 00:11:20,427 --> 00:11:23,187 Speaker 4: I'm so worried about that keeper Jordan Pickford, but he 228 00:11:23,227 --> 00:11:26,347 Speaker 4: hasn't really been called into action much much. So hats 229 00:11:26,347 --> 00:11:28,627 Speaker 4: off to their defense and I guess to the way 230 00:11:28,667 --> 00:11:30,987 Speaker 4: they do keep the ball a bit better than previous sides. 231 00:11:32,267 --> 00:11:35,507 Speaker 4: It still will be tough for them. They haven't found 232 00:11:35,507 --> 00:11:39,787 Speaker 4: their mojo. It's a strange I guess the way they 233 00:11:39,947 --> 00:11:44,147 Speaker 4: formed that club so that that team with all eyes 234 00:11:44,227 --> 00:11:47,747 Speaker 4: on still on Harry Kane, means that they can't really 235 00:11:48,667 --> 00:11:51,907 Speaker 4: you can't see those other talented players express themselves. The 236 00:11:51,907 --> 00:11:54,947 Speaker 4: biggest issue for me, though, Piney of the Euros recently 237 00:11:55,267 --> 00:11:59,587 Speaker 4: was an incredible yellow card for a guy who passed 238 00:11:59,587 --> 00:12:01,907 Speaker 4: the ball, put his foot down, what he's onto, what 239 00:12:01,987 --> 00:12:04,427 Speaker 4: he thought was the ground and it was at the 240 00:12:04,467 --> 00:12:07,867 Speaker 4: foot of another player that he got a second yellow 241 00:12:07,947 --> 00:12:10,907 Speaker 4: and it was a red card. And I just thought, 242 00:12:11,507 --> 00:12:14,587 Speaker 4: even though we complain about rugby, we complain about league 243 00:12:14,627 --> 00:12:18,147 Speaker 4: and some of the decisions, Football is almost even more 244 00:12:18,187 --> 00:12:22,107 Speaker 4: broken really, with VARs been called into action for some 245 00:12:22,227 --> 00:12:24,907 Speaker 4: things and not for others. And then a player simply 246 00:12:25,147 --> 00:12:28,067 Speaker 4: imagine this, passing the ball, puts his foot down and 247 00:12:28,107 --> 00:12:31,347 Speaker 4: another player's foot appears underneath it. I mean, I guess 248 00:12:31,347 --> 00:12:34,027 Speaker 4: that's how you get me or messy send off? Now 249 00:12:36,387 --> 00:12:38,427 Speaker 4: stepping get underneath them. 250 00:12:39,107 --> 00:12:41,747 Speaker 2: Yes, just put your foot where you suspect his foot 251 00:12:42,027 --> 00:12:46,307 Speaker 2: will be next, and that's it. I can report that 252 00:12:46,387 --> 00:12:50,507 Speaker 2: pleasure and pain was performed by the the Vinyls, So 253 00:12:50,827 --> 00:12:53,627 Speaker 2: I think we can. We can finish there. Unless there's 254 00:12:53,627 --> 00:12:55,507 Speaker 2: anything else you'd like to take up. 255 00:12:56,787 --> 00:12:59,387 Speaker 4: No, I don't want anybody else. When I think about 256 00:12:59,387 --> 00:13:02,187 Speaker 4: your pony, I touched myself, so thank you very much 257 00:13:02,267 --> 00:13:04,987 Speaker 4: for that. And yeah, I'm. 258 00:13:04,747 --> 00:13:07,387 Speaker 3: Out, Thank you, James. 259 00:13:08,107 --> 00:13:10,547 Speaker 1: A good time to leave it, I think for more 260 00:13:10,627 --> 00:13:13,867 Speaker 1: From Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live to news 261 00:13:13,907 --> 00:13:17,427 Speaker 1: talks at b weekends from midday, or follow the podcast 262 00:13:17,467 --> 00:13:18,387 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.