1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Earlieritia with one Root Love where you live News talks. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. It is Friday, six after five. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Great to have your company this morning. Coming up on 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: the show this Trump Putin meeting. What is Putin's game plan? 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: We'll go to Alaska. We're in London as well, where 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: stars meeting with Zelensky. Ahead of that chat in Alaska, 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: we'll go to Josh Confeld on his predictions for the 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: abs in Argentina. Team namings happening today. Pine trees are 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: holding back sheep numbers in New Zealand. The live stock 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: decline is slowing, but it's still not positive. We'll look 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: at that shortly. And AI is inventing antibiotics. We've got 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: a story, a fascinating story actually out of the UK 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: for you this morning. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: On that. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: It is seven alf to five, the agenda fright out 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: th of August. Russia's delegation is on its way to Alaska. 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: Trump says there's a twenty five percent chance of success 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: and the White House will try everything for a deal. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: I don't know that we're going to get an immediate easpyer, 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: but I think it's going to come. 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm more interested in immediate peace deal getting. 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: Piece fed, and depending on what happens with my. 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: Meeting, I'm going to be calling the President Zelenski. 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 3: And let's get him over to wherever we're. 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: Going to meet. Well, Zelenski himself is actually in Downing 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Street with Starma. 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 5: The area of discussion this morning with Keir Starmer and 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 5: Valdimir's Lensky was on security guarantees, and as we had earlier, 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 5: Marca Rivial, the American Secretary of State, is talking about 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 5: security guarantees too. That would be seen by Europe as 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: positive that they're moving America towards perhaps some kind of 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 5: security backstop, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're there yet. 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: All right, guards of the world's talking about recognizing a 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: Palestinian state. Well, this could throw a spanner in the works. 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: Israel now plans to build entire new homes and settlements. 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: This is thousands of new houses in the occupied West Bank. 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: This would split the territory in two. Israel's far right 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: finance minister, he who we have sanctioned, says it would 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: permanently bury the idea of a Palestinian state. 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 6: Australia Canada and others plan to recognize a Palestinian state, 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 6: and that far right finance minister Bittsalo Smutrich says they 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 6: may have their dreams of a Palestinian state effectively, but 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 6: his reality is to create facts on the ground and 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 6: make this, or try to make this at least irreversible. 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: Now, this is your Swifty update this morning, courtesy of 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: our producer Mackenzie, who's clearly obsessed. Swifty's finally been able 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: to breathe a sigh of relief. Now the full two 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: hour podcast with Taylor Swift and her boyfriend Travis Kelsey 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: has been released. She gave more details on a new 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: album and also how she met Travis. 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 7: Why are you coming on the show? 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: Why what are you doing? 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 8: There's so many better things to do at your time. 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 9: This podcast has done a lot for me. I owe 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 9: a lot of this podcast. This podcast got me a 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 9: boyfriend ever since Travis decided to use it as his 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 9: personal dating app about two years ago. 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 8: Worked pretty good. 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and One Roofe Love Where You Live. 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: News Talk said b must be the longest relationship she's 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: had in a very long time. I'm just looking at 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: McKenzie here for affirmation because she normally they last two days. 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: This one's been going for what a couple of years? Now, Yeah, 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: she's going strong, good on her nine minutes after five now. 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Yesterday we spoke about Trump's game plan ahead of this 69 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: big meeting in Alaska. Can you imagine Anchorage is not 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: a big place. They fly tiny planes in there. I'm 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: assuming there's a military base where they're going to land 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: all the big aircraft from Russia and from the Washington 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: But it's a small place. Imagine living there and just 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: walker and then Putin. Vladimir Putin is coming to your 75 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: tiny little town. Very bizarre for them. Anyway, we spoke 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: about Trump's game plan yesterday. You know, he's saying, this 77 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: is setting the table for a second meeting between Zelenski 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 2: and Putin and me if you want me. And he's 79 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: talking about the repercussions. You know, if they don't agree 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: to this, or don't agree to more talks, there will 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: be consequences for the Russians. All this kind of stuff. 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: But what's Putin's game plan? One of the Kremlin's advisors 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: has been briefing the press on what their angle is 84 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: going to be with Trump, and basically it's quite simple. 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: They're going to appeal to his business instincts, which is 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: his first and only instinct. Really, Putin's going to offer 87 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: financial incentives to Trump. This advisor says there's huge untapped 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: potential of US Russia relations. He's actually taking two of 89 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: his big wig economic advisors with him. He's taking his 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: finance minister, which is a big sign. The big sticking 91 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: points though really you know Kiev's NATO membership, which is 92 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: possible in the future, territory and sanctions. But clearly they 93 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: are going to try and charm Trump. And you know, 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: if you do this, if you let us have this land, 95 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: if we do, then we can do this for you. 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: So it's going to be a business meeting as much 97 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: as it is a diplomatic one. Eleven after five, talk 98 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: about the state of our dairy industry, well, sheep and beef. 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: Actually we'll talk about that next because the Select committees 100 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: come back with some recommendations about what do you do 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: with all the forestry that's coming in and taking up 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: the farmland. There's new numbers out this morning which will 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: bring you and speak to fed farmers about can we 104 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: arrest that decline in our sheep numbers? If we are 105 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: to double our exports as the government keeps saying we 106 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: should be doing, can we do it with the amount 107 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: of pine trees we have growing in this country? Right now? 108 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: Twelve after five News TALKSB. 109 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan 110 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News TALKSB five. 111 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: Fourteen on News TALKSB nine two ninety two is the 112 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: numbers text love to hear from you this morning on 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: our points of discussion. You know, what do you think 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: is going to happen with this Trump putin meeting. I'm 115 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: going to talk to Josh Coonfeld on the ABS and 116 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: Argentina next right now. If you remember, back in May, 117 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: stats in ZID data showed sheep numbers had fallen twenty 118 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: one percent, beef cattle by thirteen percent. This is over 119 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: the past decade. Well now, Beef and LAMB says for 120 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: the year ending June, this is the year ending June, 121 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: sheep numbers fell by just one percent. Beef cattle rose 122 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: actually up four point four percent. So what does all 123 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: this mean? Richard Dawkins as Fed Farmers Meat and whel 124 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: chair with us this morning, Richard, Good morning. 125 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, good morning, Ryan. 126 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Hey, what do you make of these numbers? 127 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's great to see. That's like recovery, isn't it. 128 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 10: But it's just important to understand the nuance of these 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 10: figures and the overall trend. 130 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: I suppose what is the nuance. 131 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 10: So we're seeing a recovery and numbers due to the 132 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 10: rebuild after cyclone Gabrielle and also a couple of regions 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 10: coming out of drought last year, so so restocking on 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 10: capital stock. But yeah, we're obviously still concerned with that 135 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 10: general trend over the last two or three years, which 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 10: shows us down about one and a half million stock units. 137 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: Because we've got obviously export prices increasing. We've got that 138 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: part of the equation seems to be looking good. But 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: what's holding it back? Is it all forestry or what? 140 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 7: Oh? 141 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 10: Look, there's there's no doubt the sector is in a 142 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 10: really good space, Ryan, and it's fantastic to see. We 143 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 10: have to see these that we have to enjoy these 144 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 10: positive times returns wise, the higher schedules are combined with 145 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 10: some easing of farm working expenses, but also interest rates 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 10: coming down, so that's good timing. But look, the major 147 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 10: concern for the sheep and beef sector, particularly right now 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 10: is this Climate Change Amendment Bill and preventing those wholesale 149 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 10: conversions to carbon forestry. 150 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: What exactly is wrong because there's I've seen fed farmers 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: say so not happy with some of the changes from 152 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: the Select Committee about conversion. What exactly is wrong here? 153 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, so I want to be really clear. We 154 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 10: support the intent of the bill. We think the Coalition 155 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 10: government is trying to do the right thing, but I'm 156 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 10: just not sure if possibly they're across all of the details. 157 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 10: So the and I want to be clear too, Ryan, 158 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 10: this is actually a restriction on people's ability to claim 159 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 10: carbon credits. It's not actually a restriction on their ability 160 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 10: to plant trees. But the reality is the protections are 161 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 10: mostly on classes one to five, and only twelve percent 162 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 10: of the whole farm conversions were actually on that country. 163 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 10: So the majority of our sheep and be farms sixty 164 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 10: six percent of our sheep and BF farms are on 165 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 10: classes and classes six and seven, which don't have those restrictions. 166 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: So you would be able to claim credits on land 167 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: that you think should be fund. 168 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 10: So the way the bill stands, if you plant your 169 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 10: entire property in trees, you could only claim credits on 170 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 10: twenty five percent of that area. So look, if it's 171 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 10: the right tree in the right place, and there's a 172 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 10: commercial demand for that timber, there's nothing stopping you doing that. However, 173 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 10: it should prevent sheep of beef farms being lost due 174 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 10: to the ets and that carbon value, but like I said, 175 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 10: it doesn't extend to where the majority of the sheep 176 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 10: and beef farms actually. 177 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: Are, right, gotcha. So the government obviously wants to double 178 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: our exports. Sheep and beef will have to be a 179 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: big part of that. Is this you know, what is 180 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: it that would stop us from or prevent us from 181 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: doing that or do you think we can? 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, like I said, Ryn, we support the intent of 183 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 10: the villain, And yeah, like you've mentioned, they want to 184 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 10: double exports. So it's sort of strange. It appears they're 185 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 10: siding with polluters over produce uses. So I mean, the 186 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 10: simple solution to me would be actually just extend that 187 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 10: twenty five percent restriction across all land use classes. It's 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 10: very strange they have chosen to use that land use 189 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 10: capability class system and that started being developed in the 190 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 10: fifties for soil conservation reasons. It was never designed for legislation, 191 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 10: so I'm just not sure how that would work in reality. 192 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: Richard, appreciate your time this morning. Thanks mate, Richard Dawkins 193 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: fed Farmer's Meat and Wool chair. It is nineteen minutes 194 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: after five news talks. He'd be We'll get to Josh 195 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: Confeld next on the ABS in Argentina, on. 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on Iheard Radio Early Edition with 197 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and One Route Love where you live. 198 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: News talks had been five twenty one on your Monday. 199 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: Sorry your Friday morning. That was a bit scary for you, 200 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: wasn't it? A good text from Juliam. We'll get to 201 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: that shortly and we'll be in Alaska before six. We're 202 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: into Round one of the Rugby Championship. The AB's face 203 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: Argentina Sunday morning. It's nine o'clock our time. At nine 204 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: am our time, the Aussies take on South Africa and 205 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 2: Joe Burg and the All Black team naming happens eight 206 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: point thirty this morning. Josh Croonfeld is a former All 207 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: Black on the show this morning. Good morning, Josh, good morning, 208 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: you've I you preved the got me on too early, mate. Sorry, 209 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. It's a god awful hour of 210 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: the day, isn't it. But I appreciate you being here. 211 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 8: Josh. 212 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: Hey, we obviously waiting on the team naming later this morning. 213 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: We know, with injuries Roy guards out, are you expecting 214 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: any surprises? 215 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 8: Ah, Look no, no, Look I don't think so. We've 216 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 8: definitely you know, Rais has been very forthcoming about this 217 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 8: whole four four thing, and you know, I think four 218 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 8: guys ready to go on the cab in any position. 219 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 8: And the way he he's you know, juggled his injuries, 220 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 8: you know, bringing a lock over for to replace the 221 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 8: loose ford and shifted you know, a lock into loose 222 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 8: for positions and stuff like that, just to get a 223 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 8: feel for you know that he's got players ready to go. 224 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 8: So him maybe picking you know, the new something Simon Parker, 225 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 8: bringing him across him picking that to play against Argy 226 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 8: wouldn't be the wrong thing to do, you know. So no, 227 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 8: I don't think we'll see any surprises into Maybe in 228 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 8: terms of combinations, we might, but I count see, Look, 229 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 8: everybody's picking themselves by the way they're playing. 230 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: Basically, what about the we've never lost Argentina and Argentina 231 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: no chance of that happening, do you think. 232 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 8: Look, there's always the chance of it happening. I mean 233 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 8: it was krikey the Giant Killers now, you know, like 234 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 8: they've beaten all the top ten nations and it all 235 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 8: depends on who turns up where. And I'm like, you know, 236 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 8: playing over in the country just just bolsters the nation, 237 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 8: you know, like and everybody's there. I mean, they've got 238 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 8: a fanatic crowd and it just it's the whole. Unfortunately, 239 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 8: I've never played over there, so I can't say exactly 240 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 8: what it's like. But we've got to be so in 241 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 8: our game now. Any any sort of slip up or 242 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 8: we just don't quite turn up, we're not quite there, 243 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 8: you know, they'll sneak in and get a win. We 244 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 8: have to be switched on, ready to go when we 245 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 8: travel in these countries. 246 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: Yes days, well I'm hoping they're fully switched. On Sunday morning, Josh, 247 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Are you still in bed? 248 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 8: I wondered those getting this question. Yes that I said 249 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 8: the love on five o'clock and then I got up 250 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 8: and then then got back into bed. Yeah. No, yeah, 251 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 8: there's no way when I don't have to be up 252 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 8: till seven o'clock. I'm raised around the house getting my 253 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 8: jobs done. 254 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to let you go back to sleep. Josh, 255 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: you got you got an hour and a half enjoyed. 256 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 8: I don't won't be going just leave may I'll just 257 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 8: do a little bit of stuff. Just givee get my 258 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 8: brain organized ready to go for the day. Mate. That's 259 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 8: just how it works. 260 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. We're looking forward to Sunday morning Team 261 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: naming eight thirty. This morning Josh Confeld, former All Black. 262 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: It is twenty five after five News Talks be we'll 263 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: talk Ozsie house prices next and the you know, the 264 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: relationship here between house prices and wealth quite a significant one. 265 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: So what's happening across the Tasmen very interesting at the moment. 266 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: We'll look at that next, and we'll get to Vincent 267 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: mcavhnie who's in the UK for us after news at 268 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: five point thirty the. 269 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Early edition Full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power by News. 270 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: Talks AB News TALKSB twenty seven after five question, what's 271 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: the point in US having more affordable property prices for 272 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: your first home buyer? If young workers are jetting off 273 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: to Australia in search of a better tomorrow. There's a 274 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: bit of a perverse logic to this. But across the 275 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: Tasman right now they're experiencing something of a property boom. 276 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: It's the opposite of the stagnant or falling prices that 277 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: we're seeing here in New Zealand, where homes of most 278 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: regions are actually now considered technically actually considered affordable. In Sydney, 279 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: the median price of a new pad will jump seven 280 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: percent this year through to June to two point one 281 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: million New Zealand dollars. If you want to be a 282 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: Melbourne hipster, prices will rise six percent there in the 283 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: year to June one point two million dollars the median. 284 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: They've got a problem now which we know too well. 285 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: Prices are squeezing out first home buyers there. You can't 286 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: get on the ladder for love nor money. Look at 287 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: new loans from banks landlords, two hundred thousand new loans 288 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: over the year. That's the most since twenty twenty two. 289 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: First home mortgages they're down to one hundred and sixteen 290 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: thousand because they're cutting interest rates there. Houses are you know, 291 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: money is becoming more affordable for those with equity, your 292 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: existing homeowners, all your landlords. Typically this is seen as 293 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: the problem. You want people to have a stake in 294 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: their country, and the best way to do that is 295 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: owning a piece of it. But property is inextricably linked 296 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: to the success of our economy here in New Zealand. 297 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: Falling and flat house prices here are not actually a 298 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: great news story, are they. The wealth effect of the 299 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: biggest asset that most of us own informs our spending habits. 300 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: When we feel richer, we go swipe the credit card. 301 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: When we don't, we don't. So the question is are 302 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: you better off having affordable homes and a country which 303 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: young people can't find a job, or are you better 304 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: off in a country where homes are less affordable but 305 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: wages are higher and the economy is stronger. The answer 306 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: lies in the number of Kiwis who are voting with 307 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: their feet and buggering off across the Tasman twenty nine 308 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: After five News Talks THEBB Alaska Before six. 309 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust to start your day. It's 310 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: earlier edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love. Where 311 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: You Live News Talks at B. 312 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: The conversations. Good morning, three five away from six year 313 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 2: on News Talks Hebb. It is Friday morning and it's 314 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: great to have your company. Big day for diplomacy hopefully 315 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: tomorrow in Alaska. Will head there for the latest just 316 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: before six o'clock this morning. We'll also be in London 317 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: where Starma has been meeting with Zelenski. This is from Ken. Ryan, 318 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 2: Trump and Putin are meeting at a military base in 319 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: Anchor because I was wondering how where are they all 320 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: going to fly into? You know, which airport are they 321 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: going to be using. They're actually meeting at a military 322 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 2: base in Anchorage flying and shouldn't be a problem. Anchorage 323 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: itself has an airport capable of handling huge cargo aircraft. 324 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: Love the update, Ken. This is from We're just talking 325 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: about the cost of property in New Zealand the Australia, 326 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: and you know, young people are upping sticks and moving 327 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: across the Tasman even though there house prices are way 328 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: more expensive and are increasing at a faster rate. But 329 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: they're going for jobs, right. You need a job before 330 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: you get a house, so that's what they're going for. Brian. 331 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: Not sure how we can afford to build more affordable 332 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: homes in this country when building products are amongst the 333 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: highest and most expensive in the world. Same goes for 334 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: the sections. I've been a builder for forty years, says 335 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: this text. The section price used to be about twelve 336 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: percent of the build. It's now up around forty percent. 337 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: And it's not like we don't have enough land in 338 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: this country. Good point twenty three to six. 339 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: Brian Bridge are reporters. 340 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: Around the country. Callum Proctor and dned and Colum Good Morning, 341 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: Waning Ri. Last chance for anyone wanting to get their 342 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: hands on the Kadrona Hotel. Last chance today it is Yes. 343 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 11: This is the one hundred and sixty two year old 344 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 11: heritage listed hotel and restaurant, the famous Kadrona Hotel. It's 345 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 11: been on the market for five weeks and the deadlines today. 346 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 11: There has been ten interests from both New Zealanders and 347 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 11: foreign buyers from the US, Singapore and Australia. Apparently listening 348 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 11: on trade Mean has been the third most popular live 349 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 11: listing this year. It's had more than one hundred and 350 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 11: thirty thousand views. The owners are Cad and Alexis Thornton. 351 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 11: They tell us that the buyer inquiries surpass their expectations 352 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 11: and they're looking forward to announcing details of a sale 353 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 11: in the coming weeks. They've narrowed their discussions to eight 354 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 11: groups and it's looking promising they'll find a highly skilled 355 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 11: buyer to do great things for the hotel and keep 356 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 11: it going. 357 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: Great, good piece of iconic New Zealand. How's your weather? 358 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 11: Good Friday today fine, Westerly's easing and sixteen the high 359 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 11: nice one. 360 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: Thanks Callum Clears and christ Church clear good morning, Good morning. 361 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: This woman who's been arrested at Christchiach Airport over the 362 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: student loan debt is quite an. 363 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 12: Old one, yeah, from more than twenty years ago. This 364 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 12: is a forty nine year old woman who lives in 365 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 12: Australia but had flown back to the South Island to 366 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 12: spend some time with family earlier this month. On Monday, 367 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 12: she was just clearing security at christ Church Airport. The 368 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 12: bags were already checked in. She was ready to go 369 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 12: with her family when she was tapped on the shoulder 370 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 12: and told that she wouldn't be returning to Australia. In fact, 371 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 12: she was taken under arrest to the Central Police Station 372 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 12: and then into court. She has been released on bail 373 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 12: after appearing before a magistrate. But this is because of 374 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 12: her outstanding student loan. It is more than fifty thousand 375 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 12: dollars though it's more than twenty years old. Her lawyer 376 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 12: and former IRD prosecutor Dave Anantha says he's now negotiating 377 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 12: for the woman to get a bank loan so she 378 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 12: can pay IRD. They won't accept anything other than payments 379 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 12: before they will return her passport now, he says, Look, 380 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 12: he's surprised by their response and how heavy handed it was, 381 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 12: although the law does allow it, and Arthur is now 382 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 12: encouraging other people not to bury their heads in the sand. 383 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 12: Don't leave your student loan to the last minute. Engage 384 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 12: with the ID and Land Revenue has confirmed the arrest happened, 385 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 12: says it's limited though in what it can say due 386 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 12: to privacy and the fact that's before the court. 387 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: Interesting, either you pay it or you just don't come home. Ah, 388 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 2: how's your weather fine? 389 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 12: With a frosty start again northeast of these developing and 390 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 12: the high will be sixteen. 391 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: Thanks. Claire. Claudia O'Neill has our Wellington News this morning. Claudia, 392 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. What's this sludge? Plant cost blowout. 393 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 7: Yes, so this facility is intended to treat the capital's wastewater. 394 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 7: The project's current cost has climbed to between four hundred 395 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 7: and seventy eight million and five hundred and eleven million 396 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 7: dollars since initially being said two hundred million in twenty 397 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 7: twenty two. It works out to more than six thousand, 398 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 7: six hundred dollars per household and was initially planned to 399 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 7: be paid for by a targeted rate over the third years. 400 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 7: Council is now exploring other funding options, including taking on 401 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 7: more debt. 402 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: How's the weather. 403 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 7: It's fine with morning frost, northerlies and a higher fourteen degrees. 404 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: Nice one Coaudia, Thank you, Laudia. Oneil with our willing 405 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: to news this morning. And Neva is in our Auckland studio, Neva, 406 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: good morning, morning right cracking down Auckland Council cracking down 407 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: on dog owners, I hope not me. 408 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 13: Is your dog a fighter? 409 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: No? No, she wouldn't, dare. 410 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 13: Yes, I've seen photos of your little weak dog. 411 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 6: Dear. 412 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: What's your name? Fanny? 413 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 12: Fanny? Love it? 414 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 9: Yeah? 415 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 13: Good on Fanny. Well no this isn't about Fanny, but yes, 416 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 13: we can tell you that the Organd Council has made 417 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 13: six hundred and eleven prosecutions. Now this is since twenty twenty, 418 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 13: targeting owners with dogs that have seriously injured people or 419 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 13: other animals. Now, nearly three thousand dog attacks and over 420 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 13: fifteen thousand cases of roaming dogs they've been reported in Auckland. 421 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 13: This is over the last five actual years, so that's 422 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 13: quite a few. So this is this is good though, 423 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 13: over this crackdown. Robert Irvine, he's the council's general manager. 424 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 13: He's saying nearly thirteen hundred of these. So that's of 425 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 13: the dog intakes. Of the three thousand we're on people 426 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 13: for goodness sake, that's based on what they're reporting. But 427 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 13: you know, he reckons the real number will be a. 428 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: Lot more more and you just don't report it. 429 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 13: Well, that's right, especially in what is it you know, 430 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 13: West Auckland. Well it's all over really as South Auckland. 431 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 6: You know. 432 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne Brown's quite ferocious. What if we got him 433 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: to go and bark back at you know, b back 434 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: at the dogs, send him out there, I think that'd 435 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: be quite affect I think it would. He's not willing 436 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 2: to debate anyone. Have you seen that. Yes, no, not 437 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: going to debate. 438 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 13: The Is he talking to you? 439 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: No? 440 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: No, Well there's there's talk of potentially a debate being held, 441 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure that. 442 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 13: He's you'd be good with him, you'd ask to ask 443 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 13: hard questions about the dogs. Keep it funny. 444 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: How's the weather fine? 445 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 13: But the areas of early fog, I said, frog out 446 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 13: there in the news of early fog and frost. Today's 447 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 13: igh fifteen? 448 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: All right, neither aight. We got there Friday morning, eighteen 449 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: away from six on News Talk ZBB. Lots of people 450 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: texting in about the dog. Now the dog's name, It 451 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 2: was just a I don't know why we called the 452 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: dog Fanny. I guess with two blokes in the house, 453 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: we thought there should be one at home. News talks Hebb. 454 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: It is quarter to six. Great to have your company 455 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: this morning. We'll get to Alaska shortly on the Trump 456 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: Putin meeting. First we're heading to our UK europe correspondent 457 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: Vincent mcavniy, who's with us. Vincent, Good morning. Now we 458 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: have a separate meeting taking place. This is Zelensky and 459 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: Starmer meeting at Downing Street ahead of Trump Putin meeting. 460 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: What are they talking about. 461 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Zelenski has on a mini tour. He 462 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: was in Berlin yesterday and did a telephone off lots 463 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: of European leaders and President Trump as well ahead of 464 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: that Alaska meeting. Today he was in London going into 465 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: Number ten Downing Street and whilst we didn't hear directly 466 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: from him, all the Prime Minister to Kirs Starmer, this 467 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: was a big show of diplomatic support from Britain prime ministers. 468 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: He came out and greeted Lenski, giving him a big hug. 469 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: They went in taught for a round an hour and 470 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: normally when a leader leaves they'll just exit Downing Street themselves, 471 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: get traded in their car and go. But actually the 472 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: Kiir Starmer came out. Lensky didn't answer any of the 473 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: questions being yelled at them, but sort of mister Lensky 474 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 3: wave mister Starmer waved him off and we had statements 475 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: since saying that they are powered, they have a powerful 476 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: sense of unity and a strong result just enough. They're 477 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: just hoping to play things out as carefully well. 478 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: Robie, we'll have to leave Vincent there on Fred Vincent 479 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: mcavini are UK. You're correspondent with US, but on a 480 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: bit of a dodgy line. This morning, thirteen minutes away 481 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: from six quick update for you, this is on New 482 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: Zealand now joining well potentially joining other states and recognizing 483 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: the state of Palestine. The Yussie is saying they're going 484 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: to do it come Hallow high Water in September, and 485 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: a couple of other states doing that as well, including 486 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: the UK. So we are considering doing that. We'll make 487 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: a decision over the next month. And the United Nations 488 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: has come out and said that just just be careful. 489 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it is a good thing to recognize the 490 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: state of Palestine, obviously that would be the UN's position, 491 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: but just be careful that you don't let that distract 492 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: from the real issue, which is the starving children and 493 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: families in Gaza. So they have said that prolonged debate 494 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: around you know, Palestinian statehood has so far yielded zero 495 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: political progress. The illegal settlements and occupied territories are still progressing. 496 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: So it's not a be all, end all band aid solution. 497 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: It's eighteen sorry, twelve minutes away from six. Now all 498 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: eyes on Alaska, as we said, as Trump prepares to 499 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: meet with putin. Trump says, there's a twenty five percent chance, 500 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: just to twenty five percent chances meeting will end in failure. 501 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: But will you be able to get a cease fire 502 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: across the line? Is that even the goal of this 503 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: first meeting. Tony Waterman is US correspondent, feature story and 504 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: news in Alaska for US this morning. Tony, Welcome to 505 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: the show. First of all, what's it like there right now? 506 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of media, as you would imagine 507 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: here in Anchorage, a lot of people waiting outside the 508 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: Air Force base where these talks are going to be 509 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: taking place on Friday. I was downtown in Anchorage last 510 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: evening and there's just a lot of buzz. People are 511 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: excited that this meeting is taking place here. It kind 512 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 4: of is this prominence of Alaska hosting these types of 513 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 4: very important diplomatic get togethers that they have really a 514 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 4: long history of doing. And don't forget that Alaska at 515 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: its closest point is just about eighty eight kilometers away 516 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: from Russia, so it's the closest US state to Moscow 517 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 4: or to Russia. And for Trump, it seems that this 518 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: made sense to him to have this meeting here at 519 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: the Elmendorff Richardson Air Force Base, and. 520 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: We are hearing from some of Potion's paper when the 521 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: Kremlin that this is his focus is going to be 522 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: very much economic. He's going to try and play to 523 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: Trump's you know, business ecumen and come with a couple 524 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: of economic advisors. His finance ministers going what can we 525 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: rate into that. 526 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 4: Well, there's reports that Trump himself is going to put 527 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: forward some sort of economic incentive package to Putin, So 528 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: that may be why Putin is bringing those economic advisors, 529 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: and he probably has a couple of things up his 530 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: sleeve as well to kind of tap into Trump's feeling 531 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: that he is, you know, this big business man. But 532 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 4: the Telegraph is reporting that Trump is considering granting Russia 533 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: access to Alaskan natural resources and lifting some of these 534 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: sanctions on the Russian aviation sector, also potentially allowing Russia 535 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: to access rare earth minerals in the territories that it 536 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: already occupies. In Ukraine, so Ukraine has these vast mineral reserves, 537 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: lithium in particular, which is used in rechargeable batteries. Trump 538 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: himself struck a deal with Ukraine in a mineral's agreement 539 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: just a couple of months ago, giving Washington access to 540 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: these mineral wealth. And also there's talk that Trump is 541 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: considering allowing Russia to develop these natural resources in the 542 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: Bearing Strait. This is that a very narrow body of 543 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: water that separates Alaska from Russia, and it's believed that 544 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: thirteen percent of the world's oil reserves actually resides in there. 545 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 4: So this is an incentive for Putin to in Trump's mind, 546 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: take these negotiations very seriously, particularly since the Russian economy 547 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: has been so decimated because of sanctions. But it also 548 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: again appeals to Trump as a businessman. 549 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: Tony Trump has told about sickened a very quick sickend mache. 550 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: Are people they're expecting that it could actually happen, you know, 551 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: all in one go. 552 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: No, that's not the expectation on the ground that this 553 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 4: would come immediately after. I mean, Trump is going to 554 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: fly in on Friday and fly out on Friday. This 555 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: is a very fast turnaround for him. But he said 556 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: that if these talks do go well, that he would 557 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: like to broker a second meeting very soon between the 558 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: Ukrainian President Vlodimar Zelenki, who of course is not invited 559 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: to these talks taking place on Friday and with Putin, 560 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: and Trump said, if they want me there, I'll be there. 561 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: But his real goal here is to try to get 562 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: some sort of ceasefire in place that paves the way 563 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: for a permanent peace deal. But as we have come 564 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: very close to this meeting, Trump and his team are 565 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: continuously trying to tamper down expectations. They're calling it now 566 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 4: a listening exercise that Trump is going to go into 567 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: the room. He's going to really try to feel out 568 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: Putin and see if he's serious. And if he's not serious, 569 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: Trump says that he's going to impose very severe consequences. 570 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: He hasn't said exactly what those consequences will be, and 571 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: of course he has threatened this kind of stuff in 572 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: the past and has never followed through. But the goal 573 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: here is to kind of get this process underway. 574 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: Tony, appreciate your analysis this morning. Tony Waterman, us correspondent 575 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: in Alaska for US Speature Story News. It's eight to 576 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: six on your Friday morning. Mike's in the studio with us. 577 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: Next the news you need this morning and the in 578 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Roote 579 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: Love Where you Live news Talks. 580 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: It'd be six the six on news Talks. It be 581 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: Mike's in the big yawn there, Mike just. 582 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 14: Worn out by hiding up the studio yet again this morning, Ryan, 583 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 14: don't look at mounded by gormous morons who live in swill. 584 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 14: And so you know, tell the old Dyson out. 585 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Do I ever lave? 586 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 14: You're you're you're, You're okay but not great. If you 587 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 14: want to, you. 588 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: Can you tell me what exactly I'm doing wrong. 589 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 14: You're a bit schamblick, to be honest, I mean, you're inconsistent. 590 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 14: So it's a good question you ask, and I'm glad 591 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 14: we've got some time to explore it. 592 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: So what you I mean You're. 593 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 14: Nowhere near as bad as say those clowns in the afternoon. 594 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 14: They're shocking. But what you do is some days you're 595 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 14: very good, and I think good is onto it. 596 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: But what do you mean good? Other days? 597 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 14: We was some days the rubbish. Men's just a bit 598 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 14: full of I mean, your preparation varies. I don't know 599 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 14: if your audience understands this, but some days your preparations lacking, 600 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 14: and I was much rubbish in It's been a light show. 601 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: The preparations are always consistent. 602 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 14: Well, certainly not in the terms of paper. 603 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: Do you know what's happening? 604 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 14: Pens sumps under the shelf? 605 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: Do you know what The main complaint I thought you 606 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: would raise is that I've got long legs and my knees. 607 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: You do that? 608 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 14: Yes, screen screens full of disaster on the screens. I'm 609 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 14: under there. Someone's gone under the glass screen there and 610 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 14: fingered the glass screen. Look at look at the prints 611 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 14: all over. It's shocking. 612 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: And that'll be a tech person. 613 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 14: No, no, no, it won't be a tech person fixing, 614 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 14: because no tech person fixing anything. 615 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: Well, do you know what they've left? Fingerprints? You can 616 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: literally find out. 617 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 14: I'm gonna have to because I'm under there with the 618 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 14: G twenty spraying upside down. 619 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: There's small fingers, somebody with a small thumb around the office. 620 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 14: I reckon, that's Matt, don't you Small fingered Matt. 621 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: That's what we call it. 622 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 14: Anyway, we got some Richie Barnett on the Warriors big 623 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 14: game tonight, by the way, because we can leap from 624 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 14: the Panthers because the Panthers lost last night. We're back 625 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 14: back in the top four, so that's exciting. Will Jordan, 626 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 14: also out of Argentina. 627 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: Great. All right, he was good yesterday. Actually I saw 628 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: his in the press conference. All right, have a great 629 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: show with Mike. Have a great day everybody. I have 630 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: to find the The Incriminating Thumb. 631 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 632 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 633 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.