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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp.

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Speaker 2: From news talks at B Squeaky Door or Squeaky flour.

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp The Resident Builder

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Speaker 1: with lightfoursolar dot co dot insiad find out more about

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Speaker 3: A house sizzor even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 3: grass is overgrown in the yard, even when it does

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Speaker 3: is too old to bar, and when you're sitting at

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Speaker 3: the table trying to start caesor home even when an.

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Speaker 4: Even when you're there, you.

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Speaker 3: House is the hole, even when those ghost even when

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Speaker 3: you got.

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Speaker 5: Around from the ones you love your most.

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Speaker 3: Screamed on, broken paints, peeling in front of the word.

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Speaker 4: Locals visible when they're gone, leaving the.

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Speaker 3: House, even when lba ben, even when you're now lone.

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Speaker 2: And a very very good morning to you. Welcome along

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Speaker 2: to the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Pet

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Speaker 2: wolf Camp, the Resident Builder. And this is your opportunity

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Speaker 2: the last time for twenty twenty four. Hey, this is it.

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Speaker 2: This is the the end of the line for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. I'm back next to you. Don't worry or

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Speaker 2: my condolences either way. So this is your chance now

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Speaker 2: that we've had Christmas, and I trust that you had

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Speaker 2: a hopefully a happy, maybe a reflective or a family

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Speaker 2: focused sort of Christmas Day. And I know we had

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Speaker 2: quite a bit of discussion around stocking stuff is basically

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Speaker 2: what would come out of the or could go into

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Speaker 2: that seemed to go quite well. I did end up

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Speaker 2: working a little bit on Christmas Day here at New

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Speaker 2: Suk seed B did eleven til one, and I was

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Speaker 2: about to say, if you got something noisy in the

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Speaker 2: tool department on Christmas Day, perhaps refrained from testing it

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Speaker 2: out until at least Boxing Day. So I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: the temptation was there if you've got something bright and

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Speaker 2: to have a crack at it. So maybe you're into projects.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty out there. I had still a

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Speaker 2: seem that either people have disappeared on holiday, which is great,

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Speaker 2: or you're all at home doing projects. So if you've

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Speaker 2: got a project on that you would like some help

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Speaker 2: with a little bit of advice around. Please call now,

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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number you

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Speaker 2: can text through as well. That's nine to nine two

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Speaker 2: from your mobile phone and if you'd like to send

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Speaker 2: me an email then'd be lovely. It's Pete at newstalksb

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Speaker 2: dot co dot nz. So around this time of year,

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Speaker 2: I think, well where was I? I went to a

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Speaker 2: particularly tool safety. I have to say yesterday I spend

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Speaker 2: And I did find them on an overseas website, and

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Speaker 2: So it's pretty tough. I saw some figures the other

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Speaker 2: dramatic impact on obviously on people's lives, but in terms

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Speaker 2: Of course, as we go into recession, those people disappear

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Speaker 2: square meters. So it's been a fascinating political year. When

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Speaker 2: so it's your opportunity. Need to talk all things building

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Speaker 2: in construction right through eight thirty. Eight thirty. We will

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Speaker 2: about the wonderful world of bugs and gardening as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call

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Speaker 2: if you'd like to join me now is a good opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fans, I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: how to fix that hole.

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Speaker 4: In the wall.

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Speaker 2: You give Peter Wulf Cabin call on.

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Speaker 1: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, the resident builder with

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Speaker 1: light four solar where your solar purchase berns you airpoids, dollars.

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Speaker 5: News talks, evy.

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Speaker 2: You welcome to text as well. Nine two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: This one came in and I'll deal with it at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Morning, Pete, I work in real estate. My

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Speaker 2: question is around ducks Quest plumbing, So that's Dux ducks

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Speaker 2: Quest plumbing. When this is located in a property, we

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Speaker 2: advise potential buyers to have this replaced, even if it

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Speaker 2: is currently functioning correctly and problem Would you agree with this?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any other info I could pass on? Gosh,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a multi layered question in a sense,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate that the texts coming through. Look, I think,

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Speaker 2: for a start, it's right to be cautious about it,

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Speaker 2: like anyone that I know who's had it and their

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Speaker 2: property has a high likelihood of failure. And when I

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Speaker 2: talk about failure, it's a joint popping apart or bursting,

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Speaker 2: often the middle of the night when the pressure is higher,

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Speaker 2: or sometimes when you're away, and those sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: So yes, it is problematic, without a doubt. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: So I guess it's one of those things. If a

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Speaker 2: type of plumbing, it's an unusual question to ask. It's

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Speaker 2: a little bit unusual. And then is it the role

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's all part of disclosure. Wouldn't mind talking

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Speaker 2: to an agent on that actually. But look, in general,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that if it has

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Speaker 2: somewhere else will burst later on. And I know plenty

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Speaker 2: of people that have just taken the plunge, let's say,

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Speaker 2: and they've stripped it out or they've simply bypassed it,

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Speaker 2: deleted the lines, left them in the walls, just run

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Speaker 2: there's nothing running through the old duck square. So I

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Speaker 2: agree you've got a concern.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: There was a funny story the other day. Someone I

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Speaker 2: done identified that the cast iron pipe that connected to

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Speaker 2: the toilet was rusty, and then in their pre purchase

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Speaker 2: inspection said, we estimate that the cost of the repair

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Speaker 2: which point the prospective purchaser then said to them, will

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Speaker 2: look knowing this, We'll make you an offer, but will

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Speaker 2: deduct forty thousand dollars for the potential cost of the repair.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that was an absurd estimate to give

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Speaker 2: and incredibly vague. From one thousand to fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: to repair. I mean, that's outrageous. Oh eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call, and Hazel A

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Speaker 2: very good morning, Welcome to the show. Good morning, Hazel.

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Speaker 6: I had a I lived in in the Bide Home,

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Speaker 6: the hype cam off my upere of cold water hips

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Speaker 6: and flood of the whole house. I was out of

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Speaker 6: bought in airs and dry et cetera, et cetera, and

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Speaker 6: I'm superate rejecting the n magic. And then this recent tree.

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Speaker 6: I was doing my potatoes at night and being aged,

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Speaker 6: I needed to go to the toilet with the water brain.

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Speaker 6: I turned my test off of this thing, and as

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Speaker 6: I went through pizza toilets. I saw about eight inch

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Speaker 6: shet of water coming onto the carpet underneath the hot water,

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Speaker 6: and so I forgot about going into the toilet. Rang

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Speaker 6: the farbargate and they were absolutely amazing. But when they.

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Speaker 6: Carpet, mold, mold and more mold. So I had to

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Speaker 6: accept to tail pope due to my oath. Now, the

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Speaker 2: we're not going to cover any further claims on that

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Speaker 8: Painful ringing about aluminium friction stay in particular interlock. I've

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Speaker 8: I'm just using the screws from the old hundreds and

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Speaker 8: they seem to be working. But other than that, just

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Speaker 8: a matter of doing it.

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Speaker 2: It is, and the critical thing is to make sure

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I say, the new one only comes with a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, And I take it you can't get just

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Speaker 2: Be knowing how they assemble those, I'd be I would

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Speaker 8: Yeah, luckily the new version is pretty close to the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And look, it's one of those things. And it's

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I'll beat the Peter, spend the whole

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Speaker 2: you have a duty to inform as a real estate agent,

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Speaker 2: as my understanding, but do you necessarily have to recommend

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Speaker 2: without a doubt. So a couple of other texts have

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00:25:54,935 --> 00:25:57,695
Speaker 2: come in. It's called fujuciary obligation. If you're a land

432
00:25:57,695 --> 00:26:00,735
Speaker 2: agent and aware of a property or dwelling information, you

433
00:26:00,815 --> 00:26:04,415
Speaker 2: must advise the interested party. So if you're aware of

434
00:26:04,455 --> 00:26:07,375
Speaker 2: a particular fault, then you need to advise that. And

435
00:26:07,375 --> 00:26:09,695
Speaker 2: there was a case actually the other day that went

436
00:26:09,815 --> 00:26:15,175
Speaker 2: through to the real estate tribunal where someone was aware

437
00:26:15,615 --> 00:26:21,935
Speaker 2: and deliberately withheld information of damage. And other text has

438
00:26:21,975 --> 00:26:25,735
Speaker 2: come through. Dux Quest Plumbing is now a general disclosure

439
00:26:25,855 --> 00:26:30,895
Speaker 2: on our purchaser acknowledgment form, much like monolithic clad properties. Also,

440
00:26:30,895 --> 00:26:33,295
Speaker 2: a question about the forty K deduction requested, are you

441
00:26:33,335 --> 00:26:35,655
Speaker 2: sure it wasn't a type? And the value associated with

442
00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:39,215
Speaker 2: the works went five to one thousand to five thousand dollars, No,

443
00:26:39,815 --> 00:26:43,695
Speaker 2: I spoke with the person who this is firsthand, this

444
00:26:43,735 --> 00:26:48,735
Speaker 2: isn't a secondhand story. The pre purchase inspector, and you

445
00:26:48,735 --> 00:26:53,615
Speaker 2: would have to question their ability to be blunt, made

446
00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:56,935
Speaker 2: an estimate of between one thousand and fifty thousand dollars,

447
00:26:56,975 --> 00:27:01,255
Speaker 2: and based on that pre purchase inspection and the figure

448
00:27:01,335 --> 00:27:08,895
Speaker 2: set down, the potential purchase offered the vendor who I know,

449
00:27:10,615 --> 00:27:16,175
Speaker 2: the asking price minus forty thousand dollars. So, and then

450
00:27:16,455 --> 00:27:22,495
Speaker 2: eithery wanted to do a whole CCTV survey of the

451
00:27:22,575 --> 00:27:25,455
Speaker 2: of the line as well, which is kind of unusual.

452
00:27:25,495 --> 00:27:28,135
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard of that where someone

453
00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:32,695
Speaker 2: a potential purchaser wants to get a CCTV survey of

454
00:27:33,055 --> 00:27:35,895
Speaker 2: the wastewater line like the pipes under the ground across

455
00:27:35,895 --> 00:27:42,415
Speaker 2: the section to the boundary. It was decidedly odd anyway.

456
00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:46,175
Speaker 2: In the end, as it happens in this particular situation,

457
00:27:46,375 --> 00:27:50,335
Speaker 2: someone else was interested in the property and purchased it

458
00:27:50,455 --> 00:27:54,815
Speaker 2: at the asking price, basically without all of that. Plava. Oh,

459
00:27:54,815 --> 00:27:56,975
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to add

460
00:27:57,015 --> 00:27:58,735
Speaker 2: to that, I'd love to hear from you. Eight hundred

461
00:27:58,815 --> 00:28:01,695
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call, and then

462
00:28:01,935 --> 00:28:05,055
Speaker 2: our first caller, Hazer, was talking about some water damage

463
00:28:05,095 --> 00:28:07,415
Speaker 2: as a result of I think it might have been

464
00:28:07,415 --> 00:28:09,295
Speaker 2: a burst pipe, and then the second one might have

465
00:28:09,375 --> 00:28:13,335
Speaker 2: been a hot order cylinder. And of course someone has

466
00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:18,615
Speaker 2: pointed out with insurance policies, some insurance policies, because they

467
00:28:18,615 --> 00:28:21,735
Speaker 2: do very gradual damage, may have a policy limit of

468
00:28:21,855 --> 00:28:25,935
Speaker 2: just two thousand dollars. In some cases gradual damage has

469
00:28:26,335 --> 00:28:30,415
Speaker 2: basically no cover whatsoever. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

470
00:28:30,575 --> 00:28:32,135
Speaker 2: is the number to call if you've got a building

471
00:28:32,135 --> 00:28:35,095
Speaker 2: project that's underway that you'd like some help with, or

472
00:28:35,535 --> 00:28:38,055
Speaker 2: you're looking to the future and thinking, actually, is now

473
00:28:39,095 --> 00:28:41,095
Speaker 2: this is the discussion a number of people are having.

474
00:28:41,575 --> 00:28:45,735
Speaker 2: Is now the time if you've held off doing a project,

475
00:28:45,775 --> 00:28:49,415
Speaker 2: either a new build or renovation or significant alterations to

476
00:28:49,455 --> 00:28:54,015
Speaker 2: the property, and you've held off, prices were very high,

477
00:28:54,175 --> 00:28:57,215
Speaker 2: Materials were hard to get, material prices seem to be

478
00:28:57,295 --> 00:28:59,935
Speaker 2: going up. No one was prepared to offer any fixed

479
00:28:59,975 --> 00:29:01,015
Speaker 2: price contracts, etc.

480
00:29:01,255 --> 00:29:01,415
Speaker 10: Etc.

481
00:29:01,975 --> 00:29:04,735
Speaker 2: Trades people were really really busy a couple of years ago.

482
00:29:05,055 --> 00:29:08,055
Speaker 2: Now all of that that landscape has shifted a little bit.

483
00:29:08,855 --> 00:29:12,175
Speaker 2: Trades people often are not as busy as they have been.

484
00:29:12,975 --> 00:29:16,695
Speaker 2: Prices while they haven't really gone down, the rate of

485
00:29:16,775 --> 00:29:20,535
Speaker 2: increase is not going up. It's certainly more competitive, and

486
00:29:20,895 --> 00:29:24,615
Speaker 2: either contractors or suppliers are more competitive with their pricing.

487
00:29:24,655 --> 00:29:29,015
Speaker 2: At the moment, intrast rates have stopped their increase and

488
00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,735
Speaker 2: are starting to decline, So there's a little bit of surety.

489
00:29:32,175 --> 00:29:36,215
Speaker 2: Is now the time to press go before things inevitably

490
00:29:36,295 --> 00:29:38,575
Speaker 2: take off? So I'm interested in your opinion on that

491
00:29:38,655 --> 00:29:40,735
Speaker 2: as well. The lines are open. The number to call

492
00:29:41,055 --> 00:29:43,495
Speaker 2: call us now. We've got plenty of spare lines right now,

493
00:29:43,535 --> 00:29:47,095
Speaker 2: so now's a perfect time. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

494
00:29:47,255 --> 00:29:49,815
Speaker 2: is that number to call? Quack text before the break?

495
00:29:49,815 --> 00:29:52,295
Speaker 2: Good morning Peak. Do you have any tips for removing

496
00:29:52,415 --> 00:29:58,055
Speaker 2: stains from firewood and sawdust from concrete? So I presume

497
00:29:58,095 --> 00:30:00,695
Speaker 2: that it's either a gum or a resin or something

498
00:30:00,735 --> 00:30:03,535
Speaker 2: like that, or maybe you've had some hardwood. Typically, if

499
00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:07,735
Speaker 2: you've got staining, it's out of Yeah, Kuiler is the

500
00:30:07,775 --> 00:30:10,255
Speaker 2: classic one where you leave that out and it drops

501
00:30:10,255 --> 00:30:13,295
Speaker 2: onto there. Almost impossible to get the quila stains out

502
00:30:13,295 --> 00:30:19,615
Speaker 2: in my experience. But if it's others, then would you

503
00:30:19,735 --> 00:30:24,415
Speaker 2: use Basically hydrochloric acid, which has spirit assaults. Is probably

504
00:30:24,495 --> 00:30:29,735
Speaker 2: quite a good idea for cleaning concrete down, So try that.

505
00:30:30,015 --> 00:30:33,695
Speaker 2: Agitate and then rinse off might help you out there.

506
00:30:34,095 --> 00:30:36,775
Speaker 2: But yeah, stains on the concrete can be difficult to

507
00:30:36,775 --> 00:30:39,415
Speaker 2: get out. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

508
00:30:39,455 --> 00:30:42,415
Speaker 2: to call. It is coming up seventeen minutes away from seven.

509
00:30:42,695 --> 00:30:46,335
Speaker 2: Join us now lines are free, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

510
00:30:46,415 --> 00:30:49,175
Speaker 2: Just thinking back over the year twenty twenty four which

511
00:30:49,175 --> 00:30:53,095
Speaker 2: has been you know, it's memorable in the sense for

512
00:30:53,295 --> 00:30:57,055
Speaker 2: people involved in construction, just probably because of how challenging

513
00:30:57,175 --> 00:31:00,375
Speaker 2: it has been. I mentioned at the beginning of the show.

514
00:31:00,495 --> 00:31:03,455
Speaker 2: I saw some figures the other day about eleven thousand

515
00:31:03,535 --> 00:31:07,015
Speaker 2: jobs in the construction sector have been lost or the

516
00:31:07,175 --> 00:31:10,575
Speaker 2: numbers employed are down by about eleven thousand. That's a

517
00:31:10,655 --> 00:31:13,975
Speaker 2: not insignificant amount out of an industry that employs. I

518
00:31:14,015 --> 00:31:17,015
Speaker 2: think it's around two hundred and thirty thousand people roughly

519
00:31:17,415 --> 00:31:20,255
Speaker 2: are involved in the construction sector. So it's a tough time.

520
00:31:20,335 --> 00:31:24,455
Speaker 2: It's a tough time for apprentices, particularly in terms of construction.

521
00:31:24,535 --> 00:31:28,015
Speaker 2: They're often the first ones who are let go, and

522
00:31:28,055 --> 00:31:31,895
Speaker 2: then whether or not they try and stay in construction

523
00:31:32,055 --> 00:31:34,935
Speaker 2: or do they come back. Typically they don't. I can

524
00:31:35,015 --> 00:31:37,575
Speaker 2: recall back in what was two thousand and seven, you know,

525
00:31:37,615 --> 00:31:42,135
Speaker 2: when there was a fairly significant downturn as well, almost

526
00:31:42,135 --> 00:31:45,815
Speaker 2: a third of construction apprentices were let go. And then

527
00:31:45,855 --> 00:31:49,375
Speaker 2: of course we go back into an upswing in the sector,

528
00:31:49,455 --> 00:31:52,375
Speaker 2: and we're desperate for labor, and we're desperate for skilled people,

529
00:31:52,695 --> 00:31:56,775
Speaker 2: and those people have gone. And then a little about

530
00:31:56,775 --> 00:32:01,135
Speaker 2: a year ago, we had a great conversation with John

531
00:32:01,175 --> 00:32:06,055
Speaker 2: Tukey from aut who's a fantastic commentator on all things

532
00:32:06,055 --> 00:32:08,415
Speaker 2: can struction, but also sort of a big picture view

533
00:32:08,415 --> 00:32:10,415
Speaker 2: of the industry, and I was saying to him, is

534
00:32:10,455 --> 00:32:12,735
Speaker 2: there a way in which we can sort of even

535
00:32:12,775 --> 00:32:15,535
Speaker 2: out these highs and lows in the sector that we

536
00:32:16,055 --> 00:32:19,335
Speaker 2: tend to either be chasing our tail looking for labor,

537
00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:21,935
Speaker 2: looking for materials when we're in a boom, or we're

538
00:32:21,935 --> 00:32:24,055
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the trough and it's desperate and

539
00:32:24,095 --> 00:32:25,735
Speaker 2: we lose a whole bunch of people and a whole

540
00:32:25,735 --> 00:32:29,815
Speaker 2: lot of skills. And his simple answer is no, it's

541
00:32:29,855 --> 00:32:32,255
Speaker 2: just that, I suppose it's the nature of capitalism, it's

542
00:32:32,255 --> 00:32:35,015
Speaker 2: the nature of the economy, it's the nature of sort

543
00:32:35,015 --> 00:32:39,135
Speaker 2: of these cyclical movements, and the industry kind of needs it,

544
00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,055
Speaker 2: and so there's not really a way of getting of

545
00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:45,815
Speaker 2: easing that out, which was I was kind of hoping

546
00:32:45,855 --> 00:32:49,495
Speaker 2: that he'd have some sort of perfect answer to get

547
00:32:49,495 --> 00:32:54,735
Speaker 2: that sorted, but no. A couple of texts on exactly that,

548
00:32:54,815 --> 00:32:57,095
Speaker 2: you know, looking back over the year, because ultimately, if

549
00:32:57,135 --> 00:33:00,215
Speaker 2: you're typically if you're involved in construction, you end up

550
00:33:00,215 --> 00:33:03,775
Speaker 2: becoming a business owner, right. Plenty of small traders, lots

551
00:33:03,775 --> 00:33:07,335
Speaker 2: of soul traders, lots of limited liability companies, plenty of

552
00:33:07,375 --> 00:33:10,095
Speaker 2: liquidations and receiverships, and of course there's been if you

553
00:33:10,095 --> 00:33:12,535
Speaker 2: look back over the year a couple of really high

554
00:33:12,575 --> 00:33:19,215
Speaker 2: profile companies as well that have had receivers appointed to

555
00:33:19,255 --> 00:33:22,735
Speaker 2: try and sort out. And I mean it would be

556
00:33:23,495 --> 00:33:26,735
Speaker 2: would I be overstating it and saying that almost every week,

557
00:33:27,375 --> 00:33:29,295
Speaker 2: certainly every two weeks, there'd be a story in the

558
00:33:29,295 --> 00:33:33,695
Speaker 2: paper about a developer going under or people that have

559
00:33:33,775 --> 00:33:36,455
Speaker 2: paid deposits. I saw that story a couple of weeks ago,

560
00:33:36,775 --> 00:33:40,655
Speaker 2: people who had paid deposits to a developer for home

561
00:33:41,055 --> 00:33:46,055
Speaker 2: basically land and house packages, only to discover that the

562
00:33:46,095 --> 00:33:49,575
Speaker 2: developer to whom they'd paid the deposits didn't even own

563
00:33:49,615 --> 00:33:53,375
Speaker 2: the land. The actual buildings were a long way off,

564
00:33:53,495 --> 00:33:55,535
Speaker 2: and the money didn't go into a trust account, so

565
00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:59,175
Speaker 2: their deposits are gone. It's not uncommon either. Right now

566
00:34:00,215 --> 00:34:02,735
Speaker 2: it has been fairly challenging. Maybe you'd like to add

567
00:34:02,775 --> 00:34:05,935
Speaker 2: your comments to that. Virtually all businesses are downpeak, most

568
00:34:05,935 --> 00:34:08,535
Speaker 2: between ten and thirty percent, some far worse. The whole

569
00:34:08,575 --> 00:34:10,575
Speaker 2: economy has been up and down the last forty years,

570
00:34:10,575 --> 00:34:12,975
Speaker 2: but slowly going down. We're not finished, and we need

571
00:34:13,015 --> 00:34:16,375
Speaker 2: to make massive changes to our whole economic and social structure.

572
00:34:16,415 --> 00:34:19,095
Speaker 2: And I'm hopeful that it and I'm not hopeful of

573
00:34:19,135 --> 00:34:22,455
Speaker 2: them being implemented. That's from Bob, so that's a broader summary.

574
00:34:22,815 --> 00:34:26,015
Speaker 2: A quick one. On the staining of the concrete. Someone

575
00:34:26,055 --> 00:34:31,015
Speaker 2: has suggested using baking soda and water. Good idea. Someone

576
00:34:31,095 --> 00:34:33,215
Speaker 2: else suggesting you should never use acid. I mean we

577
00:34:33,295 --> 00:34:36,615
Speaker 2: use acid often to if you're doing literally, and acid

578
00:34:36,815 --> 00:34:40,415
Speaker 2: wash if you want that exposed aggregate, so it works

579
00:34:40,455 --> 00:34:44,255
Speaker 2: to clean away the cement. But baking soda and water

580
00:34:44,335 --> 00:34:48,615
Speaker 2: is a good option. Someone here we go. I want

581
00:34:48,655 --> 00:34:51,855
Speaker 2: to stain the deck. It was previously stained Kofi, which

582
00:34:51,895 --> 00:34:54,575
Speaker 2: is like a warm yellow color, and I want to

583
00:34:54,655 --> 00:34:57,175
Speaker 2: change it to gray after water blasting. Is there any

584
00:34:57,175 --> 00:35:00,015
Speaker 2: other prep before I use the new color. What I

585
00:35:00,175 --> 00:35:04,655
Speaker 2: would suggest that I'm always really reluctant around water blasting decks.

586
00:35:04,695 --> 00:35:07,615
Speaker 2: You've got to know, we've got to do it gently. Basically,

587
00:35:07,615 --> 00:35:10,335
Speaker 2: it should be regarded as a powerwash, not a water blast.

588
00:35:10,415 --> 00:35:13,495
Speaker 2: So you want to use a proprietary product like a

589
00:35:13,535 --> 00:35:18,935
Speaker 2: deck wash to attack all of the mold and mildew

590
00:35:18,975 --> 00:35:22,255
Speaker 2: that's settled on the deck. That will also help open

591
00:35:22,295 --> 00:35:24,895
Speaker 2: up the fibers. But then when you're water blasting or

592
00:35:24,935 --> 00:35:28,215
Speaker 2: power washing, don't go too close to the timber. You

593
00:35:28,255 --> 00:35:32,895
Speaker 2: will literally rip up the fibers and damage the decking itself.

594
00:35:33,255 --> 00:35:37,375
Speaker 2: So if you've cleaned it thoroughly, agitated its apply a cleaner,

595
00:35:37,495 --> 00:35:40,535
Speaker 2: agitate with a stiff broom. Rinse that off by all

596
00:35:40,535 --> 00:35:43,895
Speaker 2: means with a water blaster, but don't go too close. Then,

597
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,055
Speaker 2: if you've got an existing color and you want to

598
00:35:46,135 --> 00:35:48,535
Speaker 2: change it to a different one, I would just check

599
00:35:48,615 --> 00:35:51,015
Speaker 2: in terms of compatibility that you don't end up with

600
00:35:51,175 --> 00:35:54,775
Speaker 2: kind of splotchiness where you've got slightly more of the

601
00:35:54,855 --> 00:35:58,335
Speaker 2: original stain remains on the timber and then you've applied

602
00:35:58,335 --> 00:36:00,855
Speaker 2: a new stain over the top, but in other parts

603
00:36:00,895 --> 00:36:04,495
Speaker 2: where you've got less of that original stain on the timber,

604
00:36:04,975 --> 00:36:07,535
Speaker 2: it will it could give your different appearance. So once

605
00:36:07,535 --> 00:36:10,935
Speaker 2: you've done your prep, maybe have a look at just

606
00:36:11,055 --> 00:36:13,975
Speaker 2: doing a test in one small area just to make

607
00:36:14,015 --> 00:36:16,935
Speaker 2: sure you don't get an incompatibility between the two. If

608
00:36:16,975 --> 00:36:20,095
Speaker 2: that's okay, then go right ahead. So allow the timber

609
00:36:20,135 --> 00:36:22,775
Speaker 2: to dry a reasonable amount, doesn't have to be bone dry,

610
00:36:22,895 --> 00:36:26,375
Speaker 2: and then go ahead and do the new coat over

611
00:36:26,375 --> 00:36:29,415
Speaker 2: the top and from yellow to gray. I could kind

612
00:36:29,415 --> 00:36:31,175
Speaker 2: of see why you want to do it. Oh, eight

613
00:36:31,255 --> 00:36:33,335
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We

614
00:36:33,415 --> 00:36:36,015
Speaker 2: got lines are plenty for you. We always get busy

615
00:36:36,095 --> 00:36:37,495
Speaker 2: later in the show, so now it's a good time

616
00:36:37,535 --> 00:36:39,855
Speaker 2: to call if you've got a project. All some thoughts

617
00:36:39,895 --> 00:36:42,695
Speaker 2: on twenty twenty four in terms of the construction sector,

618
00:36:42,975 --> 00:36:47,135
Speaker 2: give us a call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Actually,

619
00:36:47,175 --> 00:36:48,895
Speaker 2: what I was thinking about, sort of looking back over

620
00:36:48,895 --> 00:36:51,375
Speaker 2: the year. One of the unexpected things something that if

621
00:36:51,415 --> 00:36:53,375
Speaker 2: you talk to me at the beginning of twenty twenty four,

622
00:36:53,655 --> 00:36:57,495
Speaker 2: would I have been involved with, or discussed or been

623
00:36:57,775 --> 00:37:00,455
Speaker 2: in a sense so consumed by I've got to say,

624
00:37:00,495 --> 00:37:03,095
Speaker 2: has been the l boxes. That's been my real surprise

625
00:37:03,175 --> 00:37:06,975
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four. So I think quite early in

626
00:37:07,015 --> 00:37:10,015
Speaker 2: the year I talked to rud about sort of the

627
00:37:10,455 --> 00:37:14,055
Speaker 2: I suppose, the re emergence of owls around the country.

628
00:37:14,055 --> 00:37:16,655
Speaker 2: I didn't realized that there were as many varieties or

629
00:37:16,695 --> 00:37:19,455
Speaker 2: species of owl, and that they lived in such an

630
00:37:19,455 --> 00:37:22,815
Speaker 2: extensive part of the country. And Sot being Root sent

631
00:37:22,855 --> 00:37:27,455
Speaker 2: me a couple of plans for owl boxes, which during

632
00:37:27,455 --> 00:37:29,015
Speaker 2: the middle of winter, when I happened to have sort

633
00:37:29,015 --> 00:37:31,535
Speaker 2: of half a day spare, I went out into the workshop,

634
00:37:31,935 --> 00:37:34,415
Speaker 2: used up all my off cut bits of plywood and

635
00:37:34,415 --> 00:37:37,575
Speaker 2: all the rest of it, and made one based on

636
00:37:37,575 --> 00:37:40,855
Speaker 2: one plan, then another based on another plan. It seems

637
00:37:40,895 --> 00:37:44,175
Speaker 2: that there are different plans for these things. Then I

638
00:37:44,255 --> 00:37:47,295
Speaker 2: realized that the two plans I had were really for

639
00:37:47,415 --> 00:37:49,695
Speaker 2: small owls, and that the one that I had intended

640
00:37:49,735 --> 00:37:52,415
Speaker 2: to build was for a barn owl, which is a

641
00:37:52,455 --> 00:37:55,175
Speaker 2: slightly larger owl. So I've still got one more owl

642
00:37:55,215 --> 00:37:59,055
Speaker 2: box to go. I've sent one to Waihiki Island, I've

643
00:37:59,055 --> 00:38:02,495
Speaker 2: sent another one has gone off down country, and over

644
00:38:02,535 --> 00:38:05,415
Speaker 2: the course of the year, I've probably sent out fifteen

645
00:38:05,495 --> 00:38:10,215
Speaker 2: or twenty emails from people requesting copies of those particular plans.

646
00:38:11,015 --> 00:38:13,295
Speaker 2: So yeah, I didn't expect to be building ol boxes

647
00:38:13,335 --> 00:38:15,015
Speaker 2: during the year. But if one of those ends up

648
00:38:15,015 --> 00:38:18,415
Speaker 2: becoming a home to an owl in their new location,

649
00:38:18,655 --> 00:38:21,135
Speaker 2: I would be as happy as Larry, I've got to say.

650
00:38:21,815 --> 00:38:25,215
Speaker 2: And then in my research I also discover that the

651
00:38:25,255 --> 00:38:29,255
Speaker 2: good people at Wingspan have their own particular owl box design,

652
00:38:29,375 --> 00:38:31,095
Speaker 2: and I'm off the under Wingspan. In a couple of

653
00:38:31,095 --> 00:38:33,375
Speaker 2: weeks time, I feel that I might make my own

654
00:38:33,455 --> 00:38:35,655
Speaker 2: olbox and take it down. They can give it away

655
00:38:35,655 --> 00:38:38,255
Speaker 2: to someone, But you go, I've just given myself another job.

656
00:38:38,295 --> 00:38:39,895
Speaker 2: If you've got a job and you need some help

657
00:38:39,895 --> 00:38:41,495
Speaker 2: with it, give us a call. Oh, eight hundred and

658
00:38:41,535 --> 00:38:43,575
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We'd be

659
00:38:43,615 --> 00:38:45,455
Speaker 2: back straight off. Well, a very good morning, and welcome

660
00:38:45,455 --> 00:38:48,295
Speaker 2: back to the show. It is. Let's have a look.

661
00:38:48,335 --> 00:38:51,495
Speaker 2: Six minutes almost seven minutes after seven on a Sunday,

662
00:38:51,535 --> 00:38:55,175
Speaker 2: the twenty ninth of December, the last Sunday show for

663
00:38:55,255 --> 00:38:57,375
Speaker 2: me for twenty twenty four. But we'll be back, of

664
00:38:57,375 --> 00:39:02,335
Speaker 2: course bright nearly. Will it be the morning of the

665
00:39:02,495 --> 00:39:06,615
Speaker 2: fourth or something like that, fifth of January twenty twenty five.

666
00:39:06,735 --> 00:39:10,575
Speaker 2: And I'm interesting in the news bulletin. They're talking about,

667
00:39:10,695 --> 00:39:13,415
Speaker 2: you know, the year ahead economically, in terms of business

668
00:39:13,455 --> 00:39:15,815
Speaker 2: and so on. It's still you know, I think at

669
00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:20,015
Speaker 2: the beginning of twenty twenty four, the phrase that emerged

670
00:39:20,175 --> 00:39:24,335
Speaker 2: was survived to twenty five, but increasingly people are now

671
00:39:24,375 --> 00:39:27,375
Speaker 2: talking about not just surviving until twenty five, but you've

672
00:39:27,415 --> 00:39:30,615
Speaker 2: got to kind of get through twenty twenty five as well.

673
00:39:32,055 --> 00:39:35,015
Speaker 2: And you know, ultimately, I guess building the sort of

674
00:39:35,015 --> 00:39:38,135
Speaker 2: building that we're talking about, the renovations, the alterations, the

675
00:39:38,215 --> 00:39:42,655
Speaker 2: repair work and so on, it is. It's a business, right,

676
00:39:42,695 --> 00:39:45,575
Speaker 2: so we're talking about business as well, and how businesses

677
00:39:45,695 --> 00:39:48,895
Speaker 2: are going to survive whether there is every time you

678
00:39:48,975 --> 00:39:51,935
Speaker 2: hear of green shoots, it seems like someone's following along

679
00:39:51,935 --> 00:39:55,455
Speaker 2: with a bit of weed killer as well, So it's

680
00:39:55,495 --> 00:39:57,855
Speaker 2: still going to be pretty grim out there. Oh, eight

681
00:39:57,975 --> 00:40:01,255
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty for your calls about all

682
00:40:01,335 --> 00:40:05,495
Speaker 2: things building and construction related. I'd kind of forgotten about this.

683
00:40:05,615 --> 00:40:11,175
Speaker 2: I got a call from a mate cautionary tale. Let's say,

684
00:40:11,575 --> 00:40:14,735
Speaker 2: when was it. I was out doing lawns and gardening

685
00:40:14,775 --> 00:40:18,135
Speaker 2: and bits and pieces, and we're up and out of

686
00:40:18,175 --> 00:40:20,575
Speaker 2: town and the he rings and goes oh, have you

687
00:40:20,615 --> 00:40:25,655
Speaker 2: got some ply and I'm like, why, ah had two

688
00:40:25,855 --> 00:40:30,575
Speaker 2: panels of a four panel bifold window blowout. You know,

689
00:40:30,575 --> 00:40:35,615
Speaker 2: we've had incredible winds, just persistent heavy or strong winds

690
00:40:35,655 --> 00:40:38,095
Speaker 2: across the Auckland area, across most of the country, I know,

691
00:40:39,015 --> 00:40:43,295
Speaker 2: but in this particular instance, it literally sucked out two

692
00:40:43,335 --> 00:40:49,055
Speaker 2: of the four bifolds. Two point three two point two

693
00:40:49,055 --> 00:40:54,255
Speaker 2: meter high doors, about seven hundred wide, single light, probably

694
00:40:54,335 --> 00:40:59,935
Speaker 2: thirty forty years old, facing essentially south, so exposed to

695
00:40:59,975 --> 00:41:04,015
Speaker 2: that so westerly that was coming through sucked the doors out.

696
00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:06,695
Speaker 2: No one was in the property at the time, broke

697
00:41:06,735 --> 00:41:09,415
Speaker 2: the glass that shattered all over the ground, broke one

698
00:41:09,455 --> 00:41:13,855
Speaker 2: of the sashes completely and left a gaping hole in

699
00:41:13,895 --> 00:41:17,295
Speaker 2: the property. So thankfully, I actually keep a few sheets

700
00:41:17,295 --> 00:41:20,855
Speaker 2: of plywood at home underneath the house. Grab those went around,

701
00:41:21,575 --> 00:41:24,935
Speaker 2: screwed them over the opening, and a little bit of

702
00:41:24,935 --> 00:41:28,735
Speaker 2: a tidy up. That was I suppose a cautionary tale

703
00:41:28,775 --> 00:41:31,415
Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, just being aware that we

704
00:41:31,495 --> 00:41:34,015
Speaker 2: do get these strong winds and you need to have

705
00:41:34,095 --> 00:41:37,135
Speaker 2: your house prepared for that as well. So if you've

706
00:41:37,175 --> 00:41:40,055
Speaker 2: got you know, fasteners that maybe have started to come loose,

707
00:41:40,095 --> 00:41:44,335
Speaker 2: so they don't really hold. That's the inevitable consequence. Oh,

708
00:41:44,375 --> 00:41:47,255
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? To call

709
00:41:47,335 --> 00:41:49,775
Speaker 2: STU A very good morning to you. How are you

710
00:41:49,775 --> 00:41:54,015
Speaker 2: this morning? Hang on the mouse? There you go, gotcha, Happy.

711
00:41:53,895 --> 00:41:58,215
Speaker 11: Christmas, peace, thank you and hopefully.

712
00:41:58,495 --> 00:41:59,015
Speaker 12: Yeah.

713
00:41:59,415 --> 00:42:02,335
Speaker 11: I've got a little job on in central Colo where

714
00:42:02,375 --> 00:42:05,775
Speaker 11: I'm doing the angled shutters over the top of the

715
00:42:05,815 --> 00:42:10,855
Speaker 11: bungalow windows where they put weatherboards across, and I'm replacing

716
00:42:10,855 --> 00:42:16,335
Speaker 11: them with shingles. Yeah, twenty five mil structural ply. But

717
00:42:16,375 --> 00:42:22,775
Speaker 11: I've got a timber called Seligna. It's just like the

718
00:42:22,775 --> 00:42:26,295
Speaker 11: seedar ones three fifty by ninety. They're all the same

719
00:42:26,335 --> 00:42:31,695
Speaker 11: size and all cut the same wed shape. Now it's

720
00:42:31,735 --> 00:42:35,495
Speaker 11: six hundred wide by two two meters long, and I'm

721
00:42:35,495 --> 00:42:42,415
Speaker 11: wanting to get six rows of these shingles across on

722
00:42:42,535 --> 00:42:45,575
Speaker 11: each shutter so that I get If I put them normally,

723
00:42:46,415 --> 00:42:48,415
Speaker 11: i'd probably only get about three rows. So I'm going

724
00:42:48,495 --> 00:42:53,975
Speaker 11: to have to cut the wider portion of the Soligna

725
00:42:55,095 --> 00:42:58,775
Speaker 11: single to lessen them down from the three to ninety,

726
00:42:58,895 --> 00:43:01,735
Speaker 11: probably take one hundred mil off or something like that.

727
00:43:02,415 --> 00:43:04,815
Speaker 11: Is that normally how you do it? Or am I

728
00:43:04,855 --> 00:43:05,135
Speaker 11: doing it?

729
00:43:05,135 --> 00:43:09,015
Speaker 2: The wrong way when you describe them as fixing the

730
00:43:09,055 --> 00:43:14,655
Speaker 2: seed the shingles the saligna shingles to the shutter. Is

731
00:43:14,695 --> 00:43:18,535
Speaker 2: the shutter movable? Is that opening closes.

732
00:43:18,615 --> 00:43:23,455
Speaker 11: It's angled. It's psycho embraces at about forty five degrees

733
00:43:23,455 --> 00:43:26,575
Speaker 11: above the window with side support. So the singles. So

734
00:43:26,695 --> 00:43:29,295
Speaker 11: the fly goes on top of that, and I'll put

735
00:43:29,455 --> 00:43:32,335
Speaker 11: a membrane just roofing, underlay something state good on and

736
00:43:32,375 --> 00:43:37,735
Speaker 11: then attached the shingles to the angled It's like a

737
00:43:37,775 --> 00:43:38,975
Speaker 11: dorm of protection. Yeah.

738
00:43:39,015 --> 00:43:41,895
Speaker 2: So I would call them an eyebrow, right, or sort

739
00:43:41,895 --> 00:43:44,535
Speaker 2: of like an eyebrow. And I say that because it's

740
00:43:45,095 --> 00:43:47,615
Speaker 2: exactly the sort of detail as it happens we've got

741
00:43:47,655 --> 00:43:53,975
Speaker 2: at home. So by villa over the front windows. So

742
00:43:54,095 --> 00:43:56,815
Speaker 2: got three windows in the bay to forty five and

743
00:43:56,815 --> 00:43:59,535
Speaker 2: one in the middle, and that one has like a

744
00:43:59,575 --> 00:44:01,975
Speaker 2: little decorative awning, right, so it's got a nice bracket

745
00:44:03,015 --> 00:44:04,775
Speaker 2: and then it's got some tongue and groove, and then

746
00:44:04,935 --> 00:44:07,695
Speaker 2: over the top of that we're in this case cedar shingles.

747
00:44:07,695 --> 00:44:10,655
Speaker 2: But someone had taken the time to rip them down

748
00:44:10,695 --> 00:44:13,455
Speaker 2: to exactly they probably would have done by hand, exactly

749
00:44:13,535 --> 00:44:15,855
Speaker 2: the same width and then put an arrowhead on them,

750
00:44:15,855 --> 00:44:19,255
Speaker 2: so a point right. So when I replaced them, I

751
00:44:19,295 --> 00:44:21,935
Speaker 2: took off the old kardi ones that have been up there,

752
00:44:22,095 --> 00:44:25,655
Speaker 2: I presumed since the house was built, and got some

753
00:44:25,775 --> 00:44:28,935
Speaker 2: new cedar, cut them to match, and then relaid it

754
00:44:28,975 --> 00:44:35,335
Speaker 2: in the same pattern. So in terms of the cligna,

755
00:44:35,455 --> 00:44:38,495
Speaker 2: you want to have a certain number of rows, but

756
00:44:38,695 --> 00:44:42,775
Speaker 2: your actual shingle is longer.

757
00:44:45,095 --> 00:44:48,775
Speaker 11: It's so the width that I'm going on is six

758
00:44:48,855 --> 00:44:55,695
Speaker 11: hundred yes, and the shingles three three fifty ninety yes.

759
00:44:56,055 --> 00:44:58,055
Speaker 11: So I'm either going to end up very very thick

760
00:44:58,535 --> 00:45:02,735
Speaker 11: going up because I'm probably going to have a visible

761
00:45:03,735 --> 00:45:06,215
Speaker 11: area of about one hundred on each shingle.

762
00:45:06,415 --> 00:45:06,855
Speaker 3: So to be.

763
00:45:09,455 --> 00:45:13,015
Speaker 11: Is that three fifty third two fifty covered by the

764
00:45:13,055 --> 00:45:14,295
Speaker 11: next shingle if you know what I mean.

765
00:45:14,535 --> 00:45:14,895
Speaker 12: Yeah.

766
00:45:15,695 --> 00:45:19,015
Speaker 2: Typically with shingles, you try and it's a third each time.

767
00:45:19,295 --> 00:45:23,695
Speaker 2: So if your cedar shingle is it covered, yeah, so

768
00:45:23,735 --> 00:45:26,735
Speaker 2: you end up with effectively three laps. Is how I've

769
00:45:26,735 --> 00:45:30,695
Speaker 2: always done the shingles, and I quite like doing them

770
00:45:31,095 --> 00:45:33,055
Speaker 2: to be fair, so I'm always the first one puts

771
00:45:33,055 --> 00:45:36,495
Speaker 2: their hand up to do seedar shingles. So it's typically

772
00:45:36,495 --> 00:45:39,975
Speaker 2: a third you want to have a so if it's

773
00:45:40,295 --> 00:45:43,575
Speaker 2: normally they're about three fifty long, so it's just over

774
00:45:43,615 --> 00:45:46,335
Speaker 2: one hundred mil one hundred and fifteen mil rough one

775
00:45:46,415 --> 00:45:49,135
Speaker 2: hundred and ten hundred and fifteen mil. And that's your cover.

776
00:45:49,415 --> 00:45:51,575
Speaker 2: And then as you get to the top, you end

777
00:45:51,655 --> 00:45:56,855
Speaker 2: up cutting the shingle down off the tapered edge, so

778
00:45:56,895 --> 00:45:58,095
Speaker 2: the thick edge stays there.

779
00:45:58,895 --> 00:46:03,535
Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, so I guess I'm being rather than giving

780
00:46:03,535 --> 00:46:05,775
Speaker 11: a single shortage just to overlap it more. I mean,

781
00:46:05,775 --> 00:46:06,175
Speaker 11: I've got.

782
00:46:06,495 --> 00:46:08,415
Speaker 2: Can do that as well, but inevitably you'll have to

783
00:46:08,415 --> 00:46:10,415
Speaker 2: cut some and then do you have a flashing at

784
00:46:10,455 --> 00:46:11,695
Speaker 2: the top or.

785
00:46:11,855 --> 00:46:15,095
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeas an angle flesh and it comes down, yes,

786
00:46:15,175 --> 00:46:17,415
Speaker 11: over it. So I just tuck up under that and

787
00:46:17,415 --> 00:46:19,335
Speaker 11: then tacked the fleshing down.

788
00:46:19,815 --> 00:46:23,335
Speaker 2: And because you've got the cover, like you mentioned, using

789
00:46:23,375 --> 00:46:25,895
Speaker 2: like a buttanyl underlay or something like that. Typically just

790
00:46:25,935 --> 00:46:27,695
Speaker 2: building papers, fine.

791
00:46:27,855 --> 00:46:28,655
Speaker 11: That's what it's using.

792
00:46:29,015 --> 00:46:31,135
Speaker 2: Oh okay, laid paper, that's.

793
00:46:30,975 --> 00:46:32,815
Speaker 12: Fine, black black tar paper.

794
00:46:32,975 --> 00:46:35,895
Speaker 2: Staple down and then how are you going to fix it?

795
00:46:36,135 --> 00:46:39,375
Speaker 2: I have to say, I've never seen seligna shingles, so

796
00:46:39,415 --> 00:46:40,295
Speaker 2: that'll be interesting.

797
00:46:41,375 --> 00:46:44,375
Speaker 11: Well, I actually went out to chat at Rosenfield and Kitsen.

798
00:46:44,455 --> 00:46:47,015
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I think because I didn't. I picked them

799
00:46:47,095 --> 00:46:48,935
Speaker 11: up from a mill out of from Vara, out of

800
00:46:49,055 --> 00:46:52,575
Speaker 11: the associated with the Lanes mill up there, and this

801
00:46:52,655 --> 00:46:54,895
Speaker 11: old guy was getting rid of them and I want

802
00:46:56,295 --> 00:47:00,695
Speaker 11: three square meters. They end up with thirty out but

803
00:47:00,775 --> 00:47:04,015
Speaker 11: an old guy at Roosevelt and Kitsen comes out and

804
00:47:04,055 --> 00:47:07,135
Speaker 11: he identified I didn't know what they were, and he said,

805
00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:09,415
Speaker 11: where did you get these? You can't get them anymore,

806
00:47:09,415 --> 00:47:13,335
Speaker 11: And well they're about age ninety years old, but as

807
00:47:13,375 --> 00:47:18,255
Speaker 11: old as the previous owner. And I wish I could

808
00:47:18,295 --> 00:47:21,255
Speaker 11: still get them because I mean cedar has gone up

809
00:47:21,295 --> 00:47:26,015
Speaker 11: through the roof, yeah and this stuff. He said, they're

810
00:47:26,055 --> 00:47:27,935
Speaker 11: very very stable. The only trouble is they're all the

811
00:47:27,975 --> 00:47:29,855
Speaker 11: same width, so I'm going to have to cut some.

812
00:47:31,615 --> 00:47:32,855
Speaker 11: I can get plaps and all that.

813
00:47:32,935 --> 00:47:36,095
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's right. And again you know, on my

814
00:47:36,215 --> 00:47:39,775
Speaker 2: experience where I was doing that particular job, I obviously

815
00:47:39,775 --> 00:47:41,535
Speaker 2: see the shingles when you buy them, you buy them

816
00:47:41,535 --> 00:47:44,135
Speaker 2: in a bundle and they're random width, right, So I

817
00:47:44,255 --> 00:47:46,135
Speaker 2: just had to fossis through the pile. But then I

818
00:47:46,215 --> 00:47:48,455
Speaker 2: ended up sending them through the table saw because I

819
00:47:48,535 --> 00:47:51,295
Speaker 2: knew I had the original ones as a template and

820
00:47:51,335 --> 00:47:53,775
Speaker 2: so I could just rip them all down and then

821
00:47:54,695 --> 00:47:57,735
Speaker 2: do that little point on them and so on. To

822
00:47:57,775 --> 00:48:01,295
Speaker 2: be fair, it's almost my favorite job as doing shingles.

823
00:48:01,335 --> 00:48:04,295
Speaker 2: I just especially the decorative stuff, you know, like curved

824
00:48:04,415 --> 00:48:07,615
Speaker 2: on a bay window and on a bungalow where it's

825
00:48:07,655 --> 00:48:10,775
Speaker 2: curved and then flares out at the bottom. Or I

826
00:48:10,855 --> 00:48:13,175
Speaker 2: did one on a gable end that actually had a

827
00:48:13,295 --> 00:48:16,815
Speaker 2: round window in the middle of it. So you came

828
00:48:16,895 --> 00:48:20,335
Speaker 2: down and then had a local plumber come and just

829
00:48:20,575 --> 00:48:23,775
Speaker 2: hand beat a lead flashing so that it went around

830
00:48:23,855 --> 00:48:26,255
Speaker 2: the window. And he made it in two parts, so

831
00:48:26,295 --> 00:48:27,855
Speaker 2: he had the bottom one and then the top one

832
00:48:27,895 --> 00:48:30,815
Speaker 2: coming over it, and then scribing all of the shingles

833
00:48:30,855 --> 00:48:33,015
Speaker 2: around it. It's just it's lovely work.

834
00:48:34,175 --> 00:48:35,295
Speaker 9: I think they'd am.

835
00:48:37,015 --> 00:48:39,535
Speaker 11: I think I'd rather keep it the square. But in

836
00:48:39,535 --> 00:48:42,415
Speaker 11: these ones, I can just put them through the tables. Yeah, yeah,

837
00:48:42,495 --> 00:48:45,775
Speaker 11: absolutely win half just to just to get the lapse.

838
00:48:45,855 --> 00:48:49,935
Speaker 2: But it's the other I'm intrigued as well. Stew the

839
00:48:50,055 --> 00:48:53,975
Speaker 2: Sligna shingles that you've got, are they original and quite old?

840
00:48:54,975 --> 00:48:55,135
Speaker 5: Yeah?

841
00:48:55,175 --> 00:48:59,215
Speaker 11: They're about wow, eighty years old. There's the guy out there.

842
00:49:00,775 --> 00:49:05,015
Speaker 11: They've been through. There's big milling operation. And yeah, and

843
00:49:05,335 --> 00:49:08,095
Speaker 11: he had just stored all the stuff, just just molded

844
00:49:08,175 --> 00:49:11,055
Speaker 11: and stored it, molded and stored it. There's about ten

845
00:49:11,135 --> 00:49:14,695
Speaker 11: bundles because of course he has gone horrendously.

846
00:49:14,775 --> 00:49:14,855
Speaker 9: Ye.

847
00:49:15,895 --> 00:49:17,575
Speaker 11: The only thing is you've got to draw them.

848
00:49:17,815 --> 00:49:19,175
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to say.

849
00:49:19,175 --> 00:49:23,495
Speaker 11: Feed is quite soft. But I've got those stainless offset

850
00:49:23,975 --> 00:49:26,415
Speaker 11: nails you can get with a very head and the

851
00:49:27,215 --> 00:49:32,935
Speaker 11: stiruations down machinek. Yeah nice, quite nice to play and

852
00:49:33,495 --> 00:49:37,095
Speaker 11: so kick the thing up. But yeah, the previously they

853
00:49:37,135 --> 00:49:40,455
Speaker 11: had old weatherboard sort of just across and nailed on,

854
00:49:40,535 --> 00:49:43,735
Speaker 11: which looked a bit scruffy from the streets. Yeah, it

855
00:49:43,775 --> 00:49:44,615
Speaker 11: did look quite nice.

856
00:49:44,615 --> 00:49:47,295
Speaker 2: But it'll be a lovely job right there. Enjoy be

857
00:49:47,375 --> 00:49:47,935
Speaker 2: safe up there.

858
00:49:47,975 --> 00:49:50,615
Speaker 11: If I get too hard, I enjoyed.

859
00:49:54,535 --> 00:49:57,015
Speaker 2: I'd be a bit nice to talk to all of this.

860
00:49:57,775 --> 00:49:59,935
Speaker 2: Take your head in the year all this eight hundred

861
00:49:59,935 --> 00:50:02,575
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty third number to call Hamish a

862
00:50:02,695 --> 00:50:05,615
Speaker 2: very good morning, Yeah, hid Hamish.

863
00:50:06,535 --> 00:50:09,295
Speaker 13: Yes, I just got a notice from council about a

864
00:50:09,335 --> 00:50:15,535
Speaker 13: septic tank maintenance record. Yes, yeah, so they are out

865
00:50:15,575 --> 00:50:20,495
Speaker 13: there now checking and making sure all those rural septic

866
00:50:20,535 --> 00:50:22,375
Speaker 13: tank systems are all maintained.

867
00:50:22,375 --> 00:50:22,815
Speaker 12: Properly.

868
00:50:24,975 --> 00:50:26,935
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's come as a bit of a shock

869
00:50:27,255 --> 00:50:30,415
Speaker 2: to homeowners that have had, you know, septic tank down

870
00:50:30,455 --> 00:50:34,175
Speaker 2: the back of the section for thirty forty fifty years

871
00:50:34,295 --> 00:50:38,735
Speaker 2: or so, and suddenly this request is coming through from councils.

872
00:50:39,135 --> 00:50:42,135
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's every single council across the country,

873
00:50:42,135 --> 00:50:44,615
Speaker 2: but certainly a lot of them are now saying, actually,

874
00:50:45,095 --> 00:50:47,695
Speaker 2: you know what, we need you to prove that it works,

875
00:50:47,815 --> 00:50:50,455
Speaker 2: and the only way to do that is to get

876
00:50:50,495 --> 00:50:54,455
Speaker 2: an approved inspector to come through. And when I had

877
00:50:54,495 --> 00:50:57,175
Speaker 2: a look on the Auckland Council website, it brings up

878
00:50:57,255 --> 00:51:01,415
Speaker 2: quite a long list of contractors that they I guess

879
00:51:01,455 --> 00:51:05,375
Speaker 2: have pre qualified, right, so it stops people from just

880
00:51:05,455 --> 00:51:09,655
Speaker 2: writing something out themselves and sending it in. But yeah,

881
00:51:09,695 --> 00:51:11,575
Speaker 2: you have to have them inspected, and you have to

882
00:51:11,695 --> 00:51:14,415
Speaker 2: prove and it has to be done by an improved contractor.

883
00:51:15,495 --> 00:51:19,055
Speaker 2: And is there a fee? No this I presume that

884
00:51:19,135 --> 00:51:22,215
Speaker 2: submitting the detail is free. But of course the inspection

885
00:51:22,295 --> 00:51:23,495
Speaker 2: is going to cost you every year.

886
00:51:24,455 --> 00:51:27,695
Speaker 13: Yes, of course it costs me twice a year. Yep,

887
00:51:28,215 --> 00:51:30,295
Speaker 13: he went two hundred and fifty dollars each time.

888
00:51:30,855 --> 00:51:31,295
Speaker 9: Wow.

889
00:51:32,295 --> 00:51:35,575
Speaker 13: Yeah, so it's not not cheap, and my system's only

890
00:51:35,655 --> 00:51:41,575
Speaker 13: three years old. Yes, so I unfortunately, just the last

891
00:51:41,575 --> 00:51:45,095
Speaker 13: time I missed the guy and he didn't do it

892
00:51:45,135 --> 00:51:47,575
Speaker 13: because a bit of a there was some grass and

893
00:51:47,655 --> 00:51:51,575
Speaker 13: weeds around it or something, right, but anyhow he didn't

894
00:51:51,575 --> 00:51:52,655
Speaker 13: do it.

895
00:51:51,975 --> 00:51:57,615
Speaker 2: So sudden it hasn't affected homeownersh how I mean, how

896
00:51:57,615 --> 00:51:59,535
Speaker 2: do you feel about it? Do you think it's it's

897
00:51:59,775 --> 00:52:03,695
Speaker 2: fair and reasonable? Do you feel that it's unnecessary? What's

898
00:52:03,735 --> 00:52:04,255
Speaker 2: your thoughts?

899
00:52:05,495 --> 00:52:09,135
Speaker 13: Well, I don't know, but it's just just another extra

900
00:52:09,215 --> 00:52:13,055
Speaker 13: added cost and that time we don't really really need,

901
00:52:13,775 --> 00:52:17,015
Speaker 13: you know. So if I put a second house on

902
00:52:17,055 --> 00:52:20,055
Speaker 13: my property, that's going to be one thousand dollars a

903
00:52:20,095 --> 00:52:24,575
Speaker 13: year just to inspect each tank, you know, So that's

904
00:52:24,615 --> 00:52:28,495
Speaker 13: another cost. And of course my rates have gone up

905
00:52:28,535 --> 00:52:30,215
Speaker 13: over over one thousand dollars.

906
00:52:32,135 --> 00:52:35,095
Speaker 2: So are you on town supply water?

907
00:52:36,095 --> 00:52:36,295
Speaker 14: Oh?

908
00:52:37,055 --> 00:52:40,735
Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah, no, I was thinking about I was

909
00:52:41,615 --> 00:52:44,135
Speaker 2: looking at water bills the other day. I was doing

910
00:52:44,135 --> 00:52:46,055
Speaker 2: some budgeting at home, and I was looking water bills

911
00:52:46,055 --> 00:52:48,215
Speaker 2: and I was trying to calculate, you know, the cost

912
00:52:48,255 --> 00:52:51,775
Speaker 2: of the fixed waste water charge, right, and then trying

913
00:52:51,775 --> 00:52:55,815
Speaker 2: to figure out what that costs on various properties over

914
00:52:56,175 --> 00:52:59,855
Speaker 2: the a year, right, And then I was thinking, gosh,

915
00:52:59,895 --> 00:53:02,735
Speaker 2: if you were you know, obviously that is a contribution

916
00:53:02,895 --> 00:53:06,455
Speaker 2: to maintaining the waste water system if you're connected to

917
00:53:07,215 --> 00:53:10,295
Speaker 2: the council line and if you've got town supply water.

918
00:53:10,775 --> 00:53:12,775
Speaker 2: But I was just thinking about a situation where you

919
00:53:12,855 --> 00:53:15,695
Speaker 2: might have town supply water and a septic tank. Are

920
00:53:15,735 --> 00:53:18,335
Speaker 2: you still having to pay the wastewater charge even if

921
00:53:18,335 --> 00:53:20,295
Speaker 2: you don't connect to the wastewater.

922
00:53:21,495 --> 00:53:25,735
Speaker 13: Well, I mean that they're making reasons to charge it

923
00:53:26,895 --> 00:53:31,175
Speaker 13: because they're doing all these on site maintenance records. Yes,

924
00:53:31,935 --> 00:53:38,575
Speaker 13: it's that safe septic at open opencouncil, dot gov, dot MZ.

925
00:53:39,095 --> 00:53:41,095
Speaker 13: So that's where I have to send all the data

926
00:53:41,135 --> 00:53:46,055
Speaker 13: to yep, yep, and if I don't comply, they're going

927
00:53:46,095 --> 00:53:48,375
Speaker 13: to send out an officer to inspect.

928
00:53:49,495 --> 00:53:53,055
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, inevitably there'll be some sort of finding system

929
00:53:53,095 --> 00:53:54,095
Speaker 2: in there as well, weren't there.

930
00:53:54,455 --> 00:53:57,895
Speaker 13: Yes, Yes, there's findings and charges and anything else onto that.

931
00:53:58,575 --> 00:54:02,215
Speaker 2: I mean to be fair, and I'm not impacted by this, Right,

932
00:54:02,255 --> 00:54:04,775
Speaker 2: I live in the city and I connected to wastewater

933
00:54:04,815 --> 00:54:07,655
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. You can kind of understand.

934
00:54:08,215 --> 00:54:10,335
Speaker 2: I guess the rationale for it is that we've got

935
00:54:10,335 --> 00:54:13,375
Speaker 2: these systems which they go in. How do we know

936
00:54:13,415 --> 00:54:16,255
Speaker 2: that people maintain them? And most systems need some sort

937
00:54:16,255 --> 00:54:20,855
Speaker 2: of maintenance over time, and when they go wrong, the

938
00:54:20,935 --> 00:54:24,935
Speaker 2: impact on the environment can be considerable, right, and the

939
00:54:24,935 --> 00:54:27,295
Speaker 2: impact potentially on neighbors and that sort of thing. So

940
00:54:27,455 --> 00:54:32,175
Speaker 2: is that what is driving council to introduce this legislation.

941
00:54:33,335 --> 00:54:38,815
Speaker 13: Oh, I've got I'm in an ecologically sensitive vary so yeah,

942
00:54:38,855 --> 00:54:41,095
Speaker 13: so that's probably the main driver.

943
00:54:41,655 --> 00:54:46,415
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, Yes, it's something else that you've they're putting

944
00:54:46,655 --> 00:54:49,575
Speaker 2: their hand into your pocket and you've got to find

945
00:54:49,575 --> 00:54:52,775
Speaker 2: that new budget. You're right, of course, because.

946
00:54:52,575 --> 00:54:53,975
Speaker 13: I mean it's going to be when they when they

947
00:54:53,975 --> 00:54:56,495
Speaker 13: put the second house on site, it's going to be

948
00:54:57,615 --> 00:54:59,775
Speaker 13: all the inspections are going to be over one thousand

949
00:54:59,815 --> 00:55:02,855
Speaker 13: dollars a year, and then if anything goes wrong, there's

950
00:55:02,895 --> 00:55:03,815
Speaker 13: a cost on top of that.

951
00:55:04,575 --> 00:55:08,735
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, good luck with the project. Nice of you

952
00:55:08,775 --> 00:55:11,775
Speaker 2: to call it all the best. Take care. It's actually

953
00:55:11,815 --> 00:55:13,495
Speaker 2: something I must have a bit of a look into

954
00:55:13,575 --> 00:55:17,135
Speaker 2: in the new year as well, because it's obviously impacting

955
00:55:17,215 --> 00:55:19,775
Speaker 2: a lot of people and has come as a bit

956
00:55:19,775 --> 00:55:22,575
Speaker 2: of a surprise to most eight hundred and eighty ten

957
00:55:22,735 --> 00:55:24,335
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call if you'd like to

958
00:55:24,375 --> 00:55:26,415
Speaker 2: join us. That'd be lovely to have your company and

959
00:55:26,495 --> 00:55:30,095
Speaker 2: your conversations. Quick text before the break, Pete. We've got

960
00:55:30,135 --> 00:55:34,495
Speaker 2: some stubborn growth starting on a two year old polycarbonate roof.

961
00:55:35,655 --> 00:55:37,855
Speaker 2: I'm sure the pollen and the dirt settling on it

962
00:55:37,975 --> 00:55:40,135
Speaker 2: is to blame. We've washed it with soapy warm water

963
00:55:40,175 --> 00:55:43,375
Speaker 2: every season as per the instruction, being told under no

964
00:55:43,615 --> 00:55:54,975
Speaker 2: circumstances to use benzil conium chloride or sodium hyperchloride. Any suggestions,

965
00:55:57,135 --> 00:55:59,695
Speaker 2: I would have thought you'd need more than warm soapy

966
00:55:59,815 --> 00:56:03,535
Speaker 2: water on that. I can understand why the manufacturer is

967
00:56:04,615 --> 00:56:10,015
Speaker 2: careful about particular chemicals, but at the same time, oh,

968
00:56:10,135 --> 00:56:17,175
Speaker 2: simple green might help out there just the thought instant

969
00:56:17,175 --> 00:56:20,535
Speaker 2: in any text questions text responses to that too. Oh wait,

970
00:56:20,535 --> 00:56:23,175
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty actually talking about roofs. Here's another quick

971
00:56:23,215 --> 00:56:26,415
Speaker 2: text as well. Fill here from the North Shore six

972
00:56:26,455 --> 00:56:29,455
Speaker 2: month old new black color steel long run roof, which

973
00:56:29,495 --> 00:56:32,095
Speaker 2: looks great. However, we've had a huge pollen drop this

974
00:56:32,175 --> 00:56:34,735
Speaker 2: year and a lot of the surface has pollen scum

975
00:56:34,855 --> 00:56:37,335
Speaker 2: or residue on it that won't wash off. Any ideas

976
00:56:37,375 --> 00:56:39,415
Speaker 2: how to remove it, such as water blasting or a

977
00:56:39,495 --> 00:56:42,975
Speaker 2: chemical wash or a roof wash contractor. I think you'd

978
00:56:42,975 --> 00:56:45,295
Speaker 2: probably want to get someone in who could do a

979
00:56:45,375 --> 00:56:49,855
Speaker 2: treatment and then a wash, and you would have to

980
00:56:49,855 --> 00:56:53,335
Speaker 2: do it, you know, like not something you could do

981
00:56:53,335 --> 00:56:55,375
Speaker 2: from the ground. You'd have to have a contractor up there,

982
00:56:55,375 --> 00:56:57,335
Speaker 2: in which case you need someone who's got all of

983
00:56:57,375 --> 00:57:01,335
Speaker 2: their working at heights and the right safety gear to

984
00:57:01,415 --> 00:57:05,655
Speaker 2: do that. But yeah, I guess black roof lots of pollen.

985
00:57:06,055 --> 00:57:09,695
Speaker 2: That stuff sticks, That's what it's designed to do. You're

986
00:57:09,695 --> 00:57:12,335
Speaker 2: going to have to get a contractor in chemical wash

987
00:57:12,535 --> 00:57:14,895
Speaker 2: or a roof wash contractor. I would suggest you're on

988
00:57:14,935 --> 00:57:17,255
Speaker 2: the right track there. Back after the break, if you'd

989
00:57:17,255 --> 00:57:18,855
Speaker 2: like to join us, the lines are open. The number

990
00:57:19,015 --> 00:57:22,215
Speaker 2: is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Your new stooksb If

991
00:57:22,215 --> 00:57:23,935
Speaker 2: you've got a little project on you'd like to talk

992
00:57:23,935 --> 00:57:27,655
Speaker 2: about eight hundred eighty ten eighty on the show. Over

993
00:57:27,695 --> 00:57:29,815
Speaker 2: the last couple of years we also focus but on

994
00:57:29,895 --> 00:57:34,095
Speaker 2: legislation as well. The rules and regulations in this whole

995
00:57:34,255 --> 00:57:37,735
Speaker 2: safe septic thing is kind of new again. It's not

996
00:57:37,815 --> 00:57:41,335
Speaker 2: something I have first hand experience of. We're in a suburb,

997
00:57:42,455 --> 00:57:44,815
Speaker 2: you know I'm connected to the waste water et cetera,

998
00:57:44,895 --> 00:57:47,895
Speaker 2: et cetera, but if you are on a tank and

999
00:57:48,775 --> 00:57:51,495
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's every single territorial authority. I

1000
00:57:51,495 --> 00:57:55,135
Speaker 2: don't think it's every single council, but certainly Auckland Council

1001
00:57:55,215 --> 00:57:59,495
Speaker 2: now is expecting you as the homeowner to undertake an

1002
00:57:59,535 --> 00:58:03,855
Speaker 2: inspection or have an inspection undertaken by a pre qualified

1003
00:58:03,935 --> 00:58:07,775
Speaker 2: contractor and then you need to admit that information I

1004
00:58:07,815 --> 00:58:11,295
Speaker 2: guess to a database at council that will keep track

1005
00:58:11,335 --> 00:58:13,055
Speaker 2: of it. How do you feel about that? Oh, eight

1006
00:58:13,175 --> 00:58:15,655
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call Rose

1007
00:58:15,775 --> 00:58:17,055
Speaker 2: A very good morning to you.

1008
00:58:18,255 --> 00:58:23,175
Speaker 10: Oh hi, Hi, Merry Christmas to you.

1009
00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:27,535
Speaker 14: Yes, I've actually met you at a seminar some time ago.

1010
00:58:27,655 --> 00:58:35,095
Speaker 14: It was a lovely, lovely moment. But fortunately, yeah, unfortunately,

1011
00:58:35,135 --> 00:58:38,455
Speaker 14: we've had a terrible episode happen and I thought you should.

1012
00:58:40,735 --> 00:58:42,655
Speaker 2: Listen to Yeah, sure what.

1013
00:58:42,615 --> 00:58:44,575
Speaker 14: We have to say for what the police have said,

1014
00:58:45,375 --> 00:58:47,935
Speaker 14: we had a burglary. We've been away, had a lovely

1015
00:58:48,015 --> 00:58:52,095
Speaker 14: time with assembly at North and I've still upset really

1016
00:58:52,775 --> 00:58:56,455
Speaker 14: and we come home and one hundred a bock trip

1017
00:58:56,495 --> 00:59:00,415
Speaker 14: city in the night and our home had been ransacked

1018
00:59:01,495 --> 00:59:06,775
Speaker 14: good and anyway, we've had the forensics out yesterday. We're

1019
00:59:06,815 --> 00:59:09,335
Speaker 14: really surprised they actually came out a day after we've

1020
00:59:09,415 --> 00:59:12,895
Speaker 14: reported it, so that was fantastic. Now my other half

1021
00:59:12,935 --> 00:59:14,575
Speaker 14: has lost a lot of tools they got under the

1022
00:59:14,655 --> 00:59:19,495
Speaker 14: tool shed. This is a second visit, so we've been

1023
00:59:19,535 --> 00:59:23,095
Speaker 14: to cash converters whatever. We wonder where all this stuff

1024
00:59:23,175 --> 00:59:26,255
Speaker 14: is going to. Somebody's buying it. But they did say

1025
00:59:26,455 --> 00:59:29,695
Speaker 14: if you could photograph it, get the serial numbers. You

1026
00:59:29,735 --> 00:59:31,815
Speaker 14: always said you're going to do this and you never

1027
00:59:31,855 --> 00:59:36,615
Speaker 14: get around to it. So he lost all his tools. Yeah,

1028
00:59:36,615 --> 00:59:38,695
Speaker 14: so that's the first part of the story, and the

1029
00:59:38,735 --> 00:59:41,335
Speaker 14: second part is it's the second time they've been and

1030
00:59:41,815 --> 00:59:44,695
Speaker 14: with the Book of Koe it was a really safe

1031
00:59:44,695 --> 00:59:47,535
Speaker 14: area at the time. We've been here five years. We're

1032
00:59:47,575 --> 00:59:51,735
Speaker 14: down a lane and it's unbelievable the guts of these people.

1033
00:59:52,975 --> 00:59:56,775
Speaker 14: There's four to five houses using this same lane, and

1034
00:59:59,215 --> 01:00:03,855
Speaker 14: we heard from some neighbors at the back who came

1035
01:00:03,935 --> 01:00:06,575
Speaker 14: home and this car was pulling down the lane as

1036
01:00:06,615 --> 01:00:09,535
Speaker 14: they were coming in. So we almost got these people.

1037
01:00:10,295 --> 01:00:12,935
Speaker 14: So they told them to move up to the other

1038
01:00:12,975 --> 01:00:15,255
Speaker 14: neighbors driveway so they could get and they were a

1039
01:00:15,295 --> 01:00:17,415
Speaker 14: young couple. So I don't know if I should have

1040
01:00:17,495 --> 01:00:22,495
Speaker 14: a description, because no, yeah, just.

1041
01:00:22,695 --> 01:00:26,375
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it must be you know, emotionally it's terrible,

1042
01:00:26,455 --> 01:00:29,295
Speaker 2: and then you know, dollar wise it's terrible as well.

1043
01:00:29,615 --> 01:00:34,775
Speaker 2: And I've had I've had some tools stolen, like out

1044
01:00:34,775 --> 01:00:37,015
Speaker 2: of a vehicle or from a work site. And I

1045
01:00:37,055 --> 01:00:41,455
Speaker 2: remember working when I first started and we our building

1046
01:00:41,495 --> 01:00:44,695
Speaker 2: site got broken into over the course of a weekend,

1047
01:00:44,855 --> 01:00:47,295
Speaker 2: and you know, they took a fair number of tools

1048
01:00:47,335 --> 01:00:49,895
Speaker 2: out of the site shed and so on. And I

1049
01:00:49,935 --> 01:00:51,895
Speaker 2: remember talking with Tom at the time and he said,

1050
01:00:51,895 --> 01:00:54,935
Speaker 2: you know, it's like a box of tools that I've

1051
01:00:54,975 --> 01:00:58,015
Speaker 2: had for years, and there's all sorts of different drill

1052
01:00:58,055 --> 01:01:02,255
Speaker 2: bits and you keep finding for months later, Oh I'm

1053
01:01:02,295 --> 01:01:05,335
Speaker 2: missing that. I'm missing that. And I have to say,

1054
01:01:05,415 --> 01:01:08,655
Speaker 2: I I can't express in language that I can use

1055
01:01:08,695 --> 01:01:13,415
Speaker 2: on the radio how enormously upset I get about. You know,

1056
01:01:13,455 --> 01:01:17,095
Speaker 2: the reason that people steal tools is because people buy them, right,

1057
01:01:17,335 --> 01:01:22,735
Speaker 2: so you know, they become currency. So you know, I'm

1058
01:01:22,815 --> 01:01:27,095
Speaker 2: equally annoyed at people that steal them and then people

1059
01:01:27,135 --> 01:01:31,735
Speaker 2: that buy them. So you know, if you're thinking, oh, great,

1060
01:01:31,815 --> 01:01:34,055
Speaker 2: I can get a Pazlo gun, for turner bucks from

1061
01:01:34,055 --> 01:01:37,735
Speaker 2: a mate around the corner. It's you know that it's

1062
01:01:37,775 --> 01:01:42,735
Speaker 2: been stolen, right, so don't bloody buy it. It's just

1063
01:01:42,895 --> 01:01:43,975
Speaker 2: enormously frustrating.

1064
01:01:45,015 --> 01:01:48,095
Speaker 14: I think cash Komurs worked very closely with the police. Yeah,

1065
01:01:48,135 --> 01:01:51,295
Speaker 14: but only the serial numbers. That could be very OK.

1066
01:01:52,095 --> 01:01:55,975
Speaker 2: Another little project, and hindsight's always twenty twenty, but something

1067
01:01:56,015 --> 01:01:59,575
Speaker 2: I've been involved in. I got introduced this couple of

1068
01:01:59,655 --> 01:02:02,135
Speaker 2: years ago and kind of a mate of mine actually

1069
01:02:02,095 --> 01:02:05,295
Speaker 2: he's in the police, asked me to come along and

1070
01:02:05,375 --> 01:02:08,095
Speaker 2: help out with us and what it is and community

1071
01:02:08,135 --> 01:02:12,215
Speaker 2: police are still doing. This is what you do is

1072
01:02:12,335 --> 01:02:16,295
Speaker 2: you engrave your driver's license on your power tools, right,

1073
01:02:17,295 --> 01:02:20,655
Speaker 2: And sometimes what police do is they'll actually be I've

1074
01:02:20,695 --> 01:02:23,375
Speaker 2: been at trade breakfasts and that sort of thing at

1075
01:02:23,375 --> 01:02:26,655
Speaker 2: different stands, and they'll be there with an engraving tool,

1076
01:02:26,855 --> 01:02:29,615
Speaker 2: and while you're grabbing a sausage and having a wand around,

1077
01:02:29,935 --> 01:02:34,175
Speaker 2: they'll just give them your driver's license and your tools,

1078
01:02:34,295 --> 01:02:36,295
Speaker 2: or they'll come out to the vehicle and they'll engrave

1079
01:02:36,335 --> 01:02:39,215
Speaker 2: your tools with the driver's license. Because for years and

1080
01:02:39,255 --> 01:02:42,375
Speaker 2: years and years, I might write p W on my tools,

1081
01:02:42,495 --> 01:02:45,375
Speaker 2: or I might paint my tools green or whatever. That

1082
01:02:45,535 --> 01:02:48,135
Speaker 2: makes no difference to the police, right, I mean, they

1083
01:02:48,175 --> 01:02:50,655
Speaker 2: don't know who PW is. They don't care that my

1084
01:02:50,775 --> 01:02:55,335
Speaker 2: favorite color might be green. Right, So we identify our

1085
01:02:55,375 --> 01:02:58,935
Speaker 2: tools that way, but it doesn't help with recovery. If, however,

1086
01:02:59,815 --> 01:03:03,815
Speaker 2: you engrave your driver's license on your tools, then even

1087
01:03:03,815 --> 01:03:06,135
Speaker 2: if you've ended up selling them, it gives them somewhere

1088
01:03:06,175 --> 01:03:09,775
Speaker 2: to go. And police will often in doing drug busts

1089
01:03:09,815 --> 01:03:14,135
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing, they'll find collections, large collections

1090
01:03:14,175 --> 01:03:17,775
Speaker 2: of stolen tools, and ideally they want to get them back.

1091
01:03:17,815 --> 01:03:20,455
Speaker 2: So I would say, if you've got your tools and

1092
01:03:20,495 --> 01:03:23,975
Speaker 2: you haven't done that, go out get a little engraver

1093
01:03:24,375 --> 01:03:28,535
Speaker 2: or get someone to do it. Engrave your driver's license

1094
01:03:28,615 --> 01:03:29,375
Speaker 2: on your tools.

1095
01:03:30,575 --> 01:03:34,415
Speaker 14: That's a really good idea. But for me, I've had

1096
01:03:34,455 --> 01:03:41,855
Speaker 14: personal items taken. It's heartbreaking, a beautiful item. It's horses

1097
01:03:42,255 --> 01:03:46,215
Speaker 14: like a chariot. It's about two feet long and about

1098
01:03:47,015 --> 01:03:52,135
Speaker 14: black and it's silvery and the chariot man is behind

1099
01:03:52,175 --> 01:03:57,095
Speaker 14: with the big ropes of the horses. Heartbroken about it

1100
01:03:57,095 --> 01:04:00,775
Speaker 14: because I've loved that piece. So that if anyone find

1101
01:04:00,855 --> 01:04:03,495
Speaker 14: something similar to that, just.

1102
01:04:03,415 --> 01:04:06,055
Speaker 2: In terms of the burglary, the sort of practical side

1103
01:04:06,055 --> 01:04:08,295
Speaker 2: of it, like, do you think that your property was

1104
01:04:08,335 --> 01:04:11,295
Speaker 2: particularly easy to access or did they have to break

1105
01:04:11,335 --> 01:04:12,535
Speaker 2: something in order to get in?

1106
01:04:14,215 --> 01:04:16,775
Speaker 14: What happened the first time? You'll be amazed at this.

1107
01:04:17,495 --> 01:04:20,415
Speaker 14: We've got great the gates. The previous owner never used

1108
01:04:20,455 --> 01:04:23,135
Speaker 14: to lock them, and I did my partner, we have

1109
01:04:23,255 --> 01:04:26,615
Speaker 14: to lock them. So we got a gay expert guy

1110
01:04:26,775 --> 01:04:30,735
Speaker 14: in and thought we were safe as lock all the windows,

1111
01:04:30,735 --> 01:04:33,935
Speaker 14: who locked the doors? Everything right? We come home the

1112
01:04:33,975 --> 01:04:38,895
Speaker 14: first is the first time. Three weeks ago we thought, oh,

1113
01:04:39,135 --> 01:04:42,695
Speaker 14: I said to John, well, I got notified by one

1114
01:04:42,735 --> 01:04:46,255
Speaker 14: of our neighbors. They're very, very good. And she says, oh.

1115
01:04:46,375 --> 01:04:48,895
Speaker 14: She says, one of your gates was open because they

1116
01:04:48,975 --> 01:04:52,215
Speaker 14: knew we were all away. And she said there was

1117
01:04:52,255 --> 01:04:58,455
Speaker 14: a like a blue maybe blue sort of gray. She

1118
01:04:58,575 --> 01:05:04,735
Speaker 14: thought it was a creative wish, and she didn't She

1119
01:05:04,815 --> 01:05:08,055
Speaker 14: didn't know what to sort of say to me because

1120
01:05:08,055 --> 01:05:11,975
Speaker 14: she felt guilty that she hadn't rung me earlier because

1121
01:05:12,255 --> 01:05:14,295
Speaker 14: it was I said, no, that car should not have

1122
01:05:14,335 --> 01:05:17,175
Speaker 14: been in our driveway. And the thing was, she said, oh,

1123
01:05:17,215 --> 01:05:20,095
Speaker 14: it's about six o'clock, so she thought you might have

1124
01:05:20,135 --> 01:05:23,895
Speaker 14: a visitor. Right. She knew my partner wasn't a home anyway.

1125
01:05:24,335 --> 01:05:27,055
Speaker 14: Another hour later, I get another call and it's our

1126
01:05:27,095 --> 01:05:30,095
Speaker 14: neighbors at the back her have been having a garage

1127
01:05:30,135 --> 01:05:34,895
Speaker 14: sell and coincidentally on seven sharp they had this item

1128
01:05:34,975 --> 01:05:37,615
Speaker 14: on garage shells. The very aware people are coming in

1129
01:05:37,855 --> 01:05:42,135
Speaker 14: just to hunt you placed out or whatever. We're just

1130
01:05:42,175 --> 01:05:44,455
Speaker 14: wondering if it's a link for that. But you know

1131
01:05:44,495 --> 01:05:48,295
Speaker 14: how they got in. They actually grilled what was it,

1132
01:05:49,855 --> 01:05:54,815
Speaker 14: grind ground the part of the operating gate, and there

1133
01:05:56,135 --> 01:05:58,255
Speaker 14: they were able to open the gate and put the car.

1134
01:05:58,295 --> 01:06:01,015
Speaker 14: And that's when I said before about.

1135
01:06:00,695 --> 01:06:04,695
Speaker 2: This, that's whole noisy sort of activity, isn't it. You know,

1136
01:06:05,295 --> 01:06:07,415
Speaker 2: grinders I was planning with.

1137
01:06:08,295 --> 01:06:12,295
Speaker 14: They came back, the one that sold the house. He said, no,

1138
01:06:12,535 --> 01:06:14,895
Speaker 14: it was caught to past five because we came back

1139
01:06:14,935 --> 01:06:17,535
Speaker 14: from the real estate, so they knew exactly the time.

1140
01:06:17,575 --> 01:06:20,775
Speaker 14: They knew the description of that car and the couple

1141
01:06:21,135 --> 01:06:23,415
Speaker 14: and they looked like he said, they were really weird.

1142
01:06:24,215 --> 01:06:26,735
Speaker 14: And I says, what do you mean by weird? He says,

1143
01:06:27,215 --> 01:06:30,575
Speaker 14: she was in the car and waving around as if

1144
01:06:30,575 --> 01:06:32,775
Speaker 14: they're on drugs. So we thought that would.

1145
01:06:32,615 --> 01:06:33,135
Speaker 4: Be the end of it.

1146
01:06:33,175 --> 01:06:36,735
Speaker 14: They would never come back again, right because we're in Elane.

1147
01:06:36,855 --> 01:06:39,255
Speaker 14: They got spotted. Who would want to come back? But

1148
01:06:39,335 --> 01:06:42,775
Speaker 14: oh no, we say that they've been back, and we

1149
01:06:42,855 --> 01:06:46,495
Speaker 14: know it was then because he described as a skinny

1150
01:06:47,135 --> 01:06:48,295
Speaker 14: blond rose.

1151
01:06:48,335 --> 01:06:53,135
Speaker 2: Look, I really hope that. I mean, I can say, look,

1152
01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:55,015
Speaker 2: I hope you get your items back, but we also

1153
01:06:55,215 --> 01:06:57,935
Speaker 2: kind of know that it's a bit of a rarity.

1154
01:06:57,975 --> 01:07:00,895
Speaker 2: It does happen. I wish you all the very best,

1155
01:07:00,935 --> 01:07:03,695
Speaker 2: so I'm sure you'd be looking at you know, inevitably

1156
01:07:03,775 --> 01:07:05,535
Speaker 2: cameras and those sorts of things to give you a

1157
01:07:05,535 --> 01:07:08,895
Speaker 2: bit of a warning. And again, you know, can I,

1158
01:07:08,935 --> 01:07:11,535
Speaker 2: like Ovi sely before, in language that I can't use

1159
01:07:11,535 --> 01:07:14,975
Speaker 2: on the radio, I can't express how frustrated and angry

1160
01:07:15,775 --> 01:07:18,935
Speaker 2: I get at the fact that tools are stolen and

1161
01:07:18,975 --> 01:07:24,015
Speaker 2: then people buy stolen tools. And I love this text, Pete.

1162
01:07:24,055 --> 01:07:25,615
Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet that none of the people who

1163
01:07:25,695 --> 01:07:28,215
Speaker 2: steal those tools are using them to earn a living.

1164
01:07:28,535 --> 01:07:32,415
Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly agree with you. But yeah, seriously, engraving and

1165
01:07:32,415 --> 01:07:35,695
Speaker 2: someone else's text through. I use a soldering iron to

1166
01:07:35,735 --> 01:07:38,295
Speaker 2: put my phone number on my tools. It's harder to

1167
01:07:38,335 --> 01:07:43,495
Speaker 2: erase than engraving. Good point. Look, whatever works for you,

1168
01:07:43,535 --> 01:07:46,895
Speaker 2: But the driver's license idea is great. I mean, you

1169
01:07:46,895 --> 01:07:48,855
Speaker 2: can use your telephone number, but I guess if you

1170
01:07:48,935 --> 01:07:52,175
Speaker 2: change your telephone number gets a little bit tricky. Anything

1171
01:07:52,295 --> 01:07:55,935
Speaker 2: like that, or just your well, it's all right if

1172
01:07:55,975 --> 01:07:57,975
Speaker 2: you put wolf Camp on because there's only one wolf

1173
01:07:57,975 --> 01:07:59,735
Speaker 2: Camp family, that's easy. But if you happen to put

1174
01:07:59,775 --> 01:08:02,935
Speaker 2: Smith on your power tools, that's not terribly helpful either. Oh,

1175
01:08:02,935 --> 01:08:05,295
Speaker 2: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. We're talking building, we're

1176
01:08:05,335 --> 01:08:08,695
Speaker 2: also talking in it a little bit as well. I

1177
01:08:08,695 --> 01:08:11,775
Speaker 2: do feel sorry for you, Ruth Rose. I really hope

1178
01:08:11,775 --> 01:08:16,655
Speaker 2: that there are some resolution to that. Mark very good morning.

1179
01:08:16,735 --> 01:08:20,455
Speaker 9: It's good morning, and compliments this season you are, Yeah,

1180
01:08:20,495 --> 01:08:23,375
Speaker 9: just about their regulations around sewage. I'm in a rural

1181
01:08:23,375 --> 01:08:28,495
Speaker 9: propertyh Yeah, it's actually quite frustrating having received these notices

1182
01:08:28,535 --> 01:08:33,415
Speaker 9: considering my existing system. I check have a check yearly maintenance,

1183
01:08:33,455 --> 01:08:36,935
Speaker 9: but you do anyway. Yeah. But the thing that really

1184
01:08:36,975 --> 01:08:41,055
Speaker 9: has ground my key is is that we did an

1185
01:08:41,095 --> 01:08:46,015
Speaker 9: internal alteration to our house, and then the building consent said, oh,

1186
01:08:46,015 --> 01:08:49,415
Speaker 9: look you've made an extra room. Your systems a long

1187
01:08:49,455 --> 01:08:52,575
Speaker 9: and big enough for the possible capacity of your house. Yes,

1188
01:08:52,855 --> 01:08:55,295
Speaker 9: I could turn a lounge into a bedroom. And that's

1189
01:08:55,335 --> 01:08:58,135
Speaker 9: your argument. But anyhow, you're going to have to increase

1190
01:08:58,135 --> 01:09:02,375
Speaker 9: the capacity of your system, right, twenty thousand dollars to

1191
01:09:02,495 --> 01:09:05,335
Speaker 9: pull out an existing good system, you know, it was working,

1192
01:09:05,615 --> 01:09:08,815
Speaker 9: no problems it and put a bigger one in. Then

1193
01:09:08,855 --> 01:09:11,855
Speaker 9: to receive a notice that or you're going to go

1194
01:09:11,895 --> 01:09:15,895
Speaker 9: to six monthly checks and I'm going, well, that's ridiculous.

1195
01:09:16,575 --> 01:09:20,135
Speaker 9: It's a new system. Why six monthly when I've already

1196
01:09:20,175 --> 01:09:22,335
Speaker 9: you know, we've been operating on a yearly checking system

1197
01:09:22,815 --> 01:09:27,215
Speaker 9: and no one's complained and works. It's got an alarm

1198
01:09:27,295 --> 01:09:29,255
Speaker 9: system on it should should you have a phone?

1199
01:09:29,775 --> 01:09:30,095
Speaker 2: Yes?

1200
01:09:30,375 --> 01:09:34,815
Speaker 9: And so Yeah. But the gauling thing is that had

1201
01:09:35,135 --> 01:09:38,095
Speaker 9: the building content people knowing that this group of council

1202
01:09:38,375 --> 01:09:40,135
Speaker 9: we're going to bring in a six monthly check, I

1203
01:09:40,135 --> 01:09:43,415
Speaker 9: wouldn't needed to replace the existing system, wouldn't do you think? Logically?

1204
01:09:43,415 --> 01:09:46,255
Speaker 2: You'd think because if it was going to fail, you

1205
01:09:46,295 --> 01:09:48,415
Speaker 2: would know and it would.

1206
01:09:48,175 --> 01:09:51,295
Speaker 9: Cope for six months, surely, you know. And the other

1207
01:09:51,335 --> 01:09:53,495
Speaker 9: point being, if I'm not happy of the system you're

1208
01:09:53,495 --> 01:09:55,375
Speaker 9: putting in, why do they let you put them in?

1209
01:09:56,375 --> 01:09:58,735
Speaker 9: But they want you to make them check every six months?

1210
01:09:59,135 --> 01:10:00,335
Speaker 9: It's illogical.

1211
01:10:01,935 --> 01:10:06,135
Speaker 2: I don't know, if it's illogical, you would have thought

1212
01:10:06,135 --> 01:10:09,415
Speaker 2: though with newer systems, right, which we expect to perform

1213
01:10:09,495 --> 01:10:12,055
Speaker 2: well and they're designed to for a period of time.

1214
01:10:12,095 --> 01:10:13,775
Speaker 2: It be a little bit like War on a fitness

1215
01:10:13,975 --> 01:10:15,375
Speaker 2: you know, if you say, hey, look, I had a

1216
01:10:15,415 --> 01:10:17,895
Speaker 2: system that was installed in twenty twenty three, for example,

1217
01:10:18,335 --> 01:10:21,015
Speaker 2: you could reasonably expect, let's say, for the first ten

1218
01:10:21,095 --> 01:10:23,895
Speaker 2: years of its life, that it would perform as per

1219
01:10:23,895 --> 01:10:28,895
Speaker 2: the manufacturer's expectation, and that maybe a check once a year,

1220
01:10:29,295 --> 01:10:31,975
Speaker 2: and that after five years or ten years, then you

1221
01:10:32,055 --> 01:10:34,095
Speaker 2: need to swap six months. A little bit like War

1222
01:10:34,135 --> 01:10:36,975
Speaker 2: on Fitness, Right, if you've got a relatively new car,

1223
01:10:37,135 --> 01:10:39,215
Speaker 2: you need a warrant every year, and that would relieve

1224
01:10:39,295 --> 01:10:44,055
Speaker 2: some of the burden. Yeah, and of course you need

1225
01:10:44,095 --> 01:10:46,255
Speaker 2: to use a contractor that's pre qualified too.

1226
01:10:46,895 --> 01:10:47,055
Speaker 11: Well.

1227
01:10:47,055 --> 01:10:52,095
Speaker 9: It's an interesting company. Who was my previous that came

1228
01:10:52,135 --> 01:10:53,855
Speaker 9: in when we bought the place. You know, we just

1229
01:10:53,895 --> 01:10:55,695
Speaker 9: got to leader say hey, we're coming to check your system.

1230
01:10:56,135 --> 01:10:57,735
Speaker 9: They did it every year, they charge one hundred and

1231
01:10:57,775 --> 01:11:01,295
Speaker 9: eighty bucks, and now now they want us to do

1232
01:11:01,335 --> 01:11:02,135
Speaker 9: it twice a year.

1233
01:11:02,655 --> 01:11:02,855
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1234
01:11:03,295 --> 01:11:06,015
Speaker 9: Well, to be honest, I don't see any either ten

1235
01:11:06,215 --> 01:11:08,895
Speaker 9: or logical or scientific evidence to suggest why I should

1236
01:11:08,895 --> 01:11:11,975
Speaker 9: have to do it every six months. To me, you

1237
01:11:11,975 --> 01:11:13,295
Speaker 9: know who's going to live on a property of it

1238
01:11:13,295 --> 01:11:17,055
Speaker 9: starts leaving, you know, it starts splitting over the top.

1239
01:11:17,135 --> 01:11:19,855
Speaker 9: You know it's I have a drip system and you

1240
01:11:19,895 --> 01:11:22,535
Speaker 9: know that pumps the waste water up the hill and

1241
01:11:22,735 --> 01:11:27,255
Speaker 9: drips it across your property per se. And as I said, well,

1242
01:11:27,055 --> 01:11:30,015
Speaker 9: we've been complying yearly. So just to me, it's just

1243
01:11:30,215 --> 01:11:34,575
Speaker 9: bureaucracy poking its nose and creating more expense to you,

1244
01:11:34,735 --> 01:11:35,495
Speaker 9: your landowners.

1245
01:11:35,495 --> 01:11:37,775
Speaker 2: But that's my right. No, no, no, look, I know what

1246
01:11:37,815 --> 01:11:40,655
Speaker 2: you're saying. I appreciate you calling through Mark yep, all

1247
01:11:40,735 --> 01:11:43,015
Speaker 2: this to you. Take care. I w eight hundred eighty

1248
01:11:43,055 --> 01:11:45,095
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. We'll take a

1249
01:11:45,095 --> 01:11:47,295
Speaker 2: short break. We'll talk to Karen in just a moment.

1250
01:11:48,015 --> 01:11:50,495
Speaker 2: Always keen to get started again. I eight hundred eighty

1251
01:11:50,575 --> 01:11:54,975
Speaker 2: ten eighty the number to call. Actually, he's a good

1252
01:11:55,055 --> 01:11:58,415
Speaker 2: text from Pete or Peter. Congratulations on the show. Thank you.

1253
01:11:58,495 --> 01:12:00,655
Speaker 2: That's very kind of you to say. Let's not forget

1254
01:12:00,695 --> 01:12:04,375
Speaker 2: people that buy stolen tools are also criminals. Is they're

1255
01:12:04,375 --> 01:12:06,135
Speaker 2: a process I can follow to check if it's a

1256
01:12:06,335 --> 01:12:14,415
Speaker 2: secondhand tool, is not stolen, I don't know, you tell me.

1257
01:12:15,935 --> 01:12:18,255
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I've bought secondhand tools. I have no

1258
01:12:18,295 --> 01:12:23,175
Speaker 2: objection to buying them from someone who's the actual owner,

1259
01:12:23,255 --> 01:12:25,975
Speaker 2: and I have bought not for a few years. I

1260
01:12:26,055 --> 01:12:30,055
Speaker 2: bought some gear, you know, through a basically a pawn broker,

1261
01:12:30,135 --> 01:12:35,695
Speaker 2: second hand dealer, And there's always that lingering doubt in

1262
01:12:35,735 --> 01:12:37,295
Speaker 2: the back of your mind where you go, you know,

1263
01:12:37,935 --> 01:12:40,895
Speaker 2: is this legit? Like is the story that they're telling me?

1264
01:12:40,975 --> 01:12:48,495
Speaker 2: Absolutely honest. I'm sure there's a process, but I'd love

1265
01:12:48,535 --> 01:12:51,175
Speaker 2: to know. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1266
01:12:51,215 --> 01:12:53,495
Speaker 2: the number to call. Karen A very good morning to you.

1267
01:12:54,815 --> 01:12:55,295
Speaker 12: Good morning.

1268
01:12:55,575 --> 01:12:58,735
Speaker 15: I really enjoy your show. It's really informative, really good.

1269
01:12:59,055 --> 01:13:01,255
Speaker 15: Just felt some powered and I normally wouldn't ring up,

1270
01:13:01,255 --> 01:13:04,335
Speaker 15: but I just felt some powered this morning. To let

1271
01:13:04,415 --> 01:13:09,215
Speaker 15: your listeners know something that has happened to me. I

1272
01:13:09,255 --> 01:13:12,855
Speaker 15: am a victim of identity food and it's gone on

1273
01:13:12,895 --> 01:13:16,015
Speaker 15: and on and on, and what have they used my

1274
01:13:16,135 --> 01:13:22,775
Speaker 15: driver's license number? So I would not encourage number on

1275
01:13:22,855 --> 01:13:27,215
Speaker 15: their tools because this has gone on for four years now.

1276
01:13:28,735 --> 01:13:34,375
Speaker 15: You know, people have booked after pay HP's telecommunications and

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01:13:34,415 --> 01:13:37,335
Speaker 15: when I said, well, how did you know it was me?

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Speaker 15: You know, how did your I d they have my

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01:13:39,415 --> 01:13:40,615
Speaker 15: driver's license number.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I can't argue with that. I understand what

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01:13:45,055 --> 01:13:49,895
Speaker 2: you're saying. I wonder if the police, I mean, you know,

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01:13:49,975 --> 01:13:51,815
Speaker 2: and and the reason I mentioned it is because I've

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01:13:51,815 --> 01:13:55,135
Speaker 2: actually been involved a couple of occasions where we've been

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01:13:55,175 --> 01:13:57,935
Speaker 2: at events, public events like you know, trade breakfast and

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01:13:57,975 --> 01:14:00,495
Speaker 2: that sort of thing, and the police have been there

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01:14:00,535 --> 01:14:04,055
Speaker 2: and it's been a police suggestion. Now possibly and I

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01:14:04,095 --> 01:14:05,775
Speaker 2: can give in contact with the guy that I used

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01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:08,415
Speaker 2: to work with on this around. You know, do they

1289
01:14:08,455 --> 01:14:12,375
Speaker 2: have a concern around having your driver's license there in

1290
01:14:12,455 --> 01:14:16,975
Speaker 2: terms of the identity theft? And perhaps there are better

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01:14:17,055 --> 01:14:20,055
Speaker 2: checks and balances now so for those.

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01:14:19,935 --> 01:14:22,575
Speaker 16: People to all to the police.

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01:14:22,615 --> 01:14:25,015
Speaker 15: And they've actually told me to go and get a

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01:14:25,055 --> 01:14:28,695
Speaker 15: new driver's license, right, because that's what that's what's been

1295
01:14:28,895 --> 01:14:35,135
Speaker 15: used to carry up these fraudulent transaction. Yeah, I just

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01:14:35,175 --> 01:14:35,695
Speaker 15: thought it right.

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01:14:35,775 --> 01:14:38,335
Speaker 2: Hey, Look, I really appreciate you phoning through. At first,

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01:14:38,415 --> 01:14:40,055
Speaker 2: I was trying to think what the context was, but

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01:14:40,095 --> 01:14:44,735
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. That would be look, would

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01:14:44,735 --> 01:14:46,015
Speaker 2: be enormously distressing.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's and it takes your treated it guilty until

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01:14:50,695 --> 01:14:55,215
Speaker 15: you can prove their inn and having a perfect credit

1303
01:14:55,295 --> 01:15:00,495
Speaker 15: rating going down to really dead for debts that.

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01:15:00,535 --> 01:15:01,935
Speaker 12: Have even been impaired by me.

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01:15:02,055 --> 01:15:06,575
Speaker 15: It's yeah, it's been horrific, to be honest. But when

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01:15:06,615 --> 01:15:08,815
Speaker 15: I heard about the driver's license on the tour, Yeah,

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01:15:09,535 --> 01:15:10,335
Speaker 15: anyone else.

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01:15:10,135 --> 01:15:10,575
Speaker 11: To go through?

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01:15:10,775 --> 01:15:14,615
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. Karen, you look after yourself. Oh,

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01:15:14,695 --> 01:15:16,935
Speaker 2: thank you, take care all the best. My pleasure to

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01:15:16,975 --> 01:15:20,175
Speaker 2: bother them. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number

1312
01:15:20,215 --> 01:15:24,655
Speaker 2: to call. Let's actually we need to take another break.

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01:15:24,695 --> 01:15:26,415
Speaker 2: Then we'll talk to George. If you'd like to join us.

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01:15:26,415 --> 01:15:29,055
Speaker 2: The lines are open. The number is eight hundred eighty

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01:15:29,095 --> 01:15:33,695
Speaker 2: ten eighty. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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01:15:33,695 --> 01:15:36,575
Speaker 2: to call George. Good morning to you. How are you, George?

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01:15:37,295 --> 01:15:39,015
Speaker 2: Hang on sick? There we go, got your hot.

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Speaker 17: I just want to have a chat about the sewage system. Yeah,

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01:15:44,135 --> 01:15:45,415
Speaker 17: so you're hot on it today?

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01:15:46,015 --> 01:15:46,215
Speaker 15: Yeah.

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01:15:46,255 --> 01:15:53,375
Speaker 17: We front onto a river and our sewage We built

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01:15:53,375 --> 01:15:56,295
Speaker 17: this house about forty years ago and got a big

1323
01:15:56,335 --> 01:16:01,615
Speaker 17: sum pole is full of the metal and that's how

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01:16:01,655 --> 01:16:05,215
Speaker 17: it works. And we get it cleaned out every two years,

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01:16:05,255 --> 01:16:09,135
Speaker 17: which we have done right from day one. But now

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01:16:09,215 --> 01:16:15,215
Speaker 17: they're saying that the surface water is getting under the

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01:16:15,255 --> 01:16:20,735
Speaker 17: lid and affecting a bacteria. Right, So my argument is,

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01:16:21,535 --> 01:16:25,495
Speaker 17: as he's saying that our system hasn't been working for

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01:16:25,495 --> 01:16:30,135
Speaker 17: forty years, is that what he's trying to say or

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01:16:30,175 --> 01:16:30,855
Speaker 17: what No.

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Speaker 2: I think what this is is it's a relatively new requirement.

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01:16:36,055 --> 01:16:39,535
Speaker 2: I guess for people that like yourself, who have septic

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01:16:39,655 --> 01:16:44,855
Speaker 2: systems on site, right, you're not connected to public wastewall lines,

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01:16:45,335 --> 01:16:48,135
Speaker 2: so you've got your own tank or whatever system you

1335
01:16:48,255 --> 01:16:51,535
Speaker 2: happen to have. In the past, I guess, Council, it

1336
01:16:51,615 --> 01:16:55,535
Speaker 2: was kind of like, you know, install and forget right.

1337
01:16:55,695 --> 01:16:59,055
Speaker 2: It was completely up to the homeowner for your own benefit.

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01:16:59,175 --> 01:17:02,655
Speaker 2: You would look after it, right, But I guess there

1339
01:17:02,695 --> 01:17:05,295
Speaker 2: have been failures, and when there are failures, it has

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01:17:05,335 --> 01:17:08,255
Speaker 2: an impact either on the environment, so where you are

1341
01:17:08,335 --> 01:17:11,335
Speaker 2: because it's close to a river, or if you're in

1342
01:17:11,375 --> 01:17:14,055
Speaker 2: an area where perhaps you do have neighbors and you

1343
01:17:14,135 --> 01:17:18,775
Speaker 2: worry about contamination into another person's property or even contamination

1344
01:17:18,855 --> 01:17:22,095
Speaker 2: on your own property as a result of a faulty system.

1345
01:17:23,095 --> 01:17:26,335
Speaker 2: So then suddenly it's like, okay, well, we know that

1346
01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:28,295
Speaker 2: people should check them, but how do we know that

1347
01:17:28,335 --> 01:17:30,455
Speaker 2: they're checking them? This is the way to do it,

1348
01:17:30,655 --> 01:17:32,695
Speaker 2: So every six months now you have to check it.

1349
01:17:33,535 --> 01:17:35,535
Speaker 2: I guess for people that have done it and been

1350
01:17:35,615 --> 01:17:38,535
Speaker 2: responsible for all that time, it's an unwelcome burden. It's

1351
01:17:38,855 --> 01:17:42,655
Speaker 2: an extra expense because I think the inspections seem to

1352
01:17:42,655 --> 01:17:45,015
Speaker 2: be somewhere around the sort one hundred and seventy five

1353
01:17:45,135 --> 01:17:48,575
Speaker 2: to two hundred and fifty dollars, and that's every six

1354
01:17:48,615 --> 01:17:49,655
Speaker 2: months forever.

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01:17:50,735 --> 01:17:56,695
Speaker 17: Yeah. My other concern is, which is still about sewage,

1356
01:17:56,775 --> 01:18:09,895
Speaker 17: is the the councils fissuring more building to desiense for

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01:18:10,855 --> 01:18:17,815
Speaker 17: the area, but their infrastructure can't handle the sewage system yep.

1358
01:18:17,895 --> 01:18:22,855
Speaker 17: So they're actually about every week or so they pump

1359
01:18:22,895 --> 01:18:30,415
Speaker 17: it into the river and our rivers full of oyster farms.

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01:18:30,655 --> 01:18:31,935
Speaker 17: They've got it closed down.

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01:18:32,215 --> 01:18:39,255
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be slightly unusual, wouldn't it f council

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01:18:39,335 --> 01:18:41,855
Speaker 2: as a regular way of dealing. Actually, I was reading

1363
01:18:42,055 --> 01:18:44,935
Speaker 2: an article. I know we've got to go for news.

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01:18:45,015 --> 01:18:47,215
Speaker 2: Let's pick this up straight after the break. We got

1365
01:18:47,295 --> 01:18:50,575
Speaker 2: new Sport and weather. Top of the hour at eight o'clock.

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01:18:52,015 --> 01:18:55,255
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, wondering how

1367
01:18:55,255 --> 01:18:55,775
Speaker 1: to fix that.

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01:18:55,735 --> 01:18:58,335
Speaker 2: Hole in the wall, give me a wolf cabin call on.

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01:19:00,295 --> 01:19:03,415
Speaker 1: The resident builder with light Force Solar where your solar

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01:19:03,455 --> 01:19:05,375
Speaker 1: purchase earns you airports dollars.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said your news Talks, there'd be welcome along

1372
01:19:08,895 --> 01:19:12,095
Speaker 2: to the show. We're talking all things building in construction

1373
01:19:12,215 --> 01:19:15,575
Speaker 2: and I guess all things related to having your own

1374
01:19:15,615 --> 01:19:18,415
Speaker 2: property as well. And one of the topics that's kind

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01:19:18,415 --> 01:19:21,375
Speaker 2: of bubbled along during the course of the year has

1376
01:19:21,375 --> 01:19:25,455
Speaker 2: been this introduction of a requirement to have your septic

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01:19:25,815 --> 01:19:30,415
Speaker 2: system inspected and then a report submitted to council every

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01:19:30,495 --> 01:19:36,535
Speaker 2: six months, which puts reasonable burden on homeowners. George, you

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01:19:36,615 --> 01:19:41,095
Speaker 2: were talking about your system, which has worked, Okay, obviously

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01:19:41,095 --> 01:19:43,975
Speaker 2: there's a few issues. You made the comment about council.

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01:19:44,415 --> 01:19:47,015
Speaker 2: I mean this is a genuine concern, particularly in Auckland

1382
01:19:47,095 --> 01:19:50,695
Speaker 2: where in the last month or so Water Care have

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01:19:50,895 --> 01:19:54,735
Speaker 2: announced areas where they will essentially not be providing services

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01:19:54,735 --> 01:19:58,175
Speaker 2: in terms of wastewater for a number of years. And

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01:19:58,255 --> 01:20:01,495
Speaker 2: these some of these areas are where developers have already

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01:20:01,495 --> 01:20:05,735
Speaker 2: bought land intending to buy houses, so that's going to

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01:20:05,735 --> 01:20:09,455
Speaker 2: be a huge issue in terms of development. And then

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01:20:09,575 --> 01:20:13,455
Speaker 2: there's a couple of other areas. I was genuinely kind

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01:20:13,455 --> 01:20:16,935
Speaker 2: of shocked, really and disappointed to see this article probably

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01:20:17,015 --> 01:20:20,375
Speaker 2: two months ago where a bunch of houses and new

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01:20:20,415 --> 01:20:24,775
Speaker 2: subdivision out sort of northwest of Auckland. They hadn't been

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01:20:24,815 --> 01:20:29,415
Speaker 2: connected to the public wastewater line. All of their sewerage

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01:20:29,455 --> 01:20:32,615
Speaker 2: goes into a tank in the subdivision and then water

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01:20:32,655 --> 01:20:36,335
Speaker 2: care comes and sucks the tank out every couple of days,

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01:20:36,375 --> 01:20:42,575
Speaker 2: which to me just seems like such an ad hoc solution. Yeah,

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01:20:42,615 --> 01:20:46,335
Speaker 2: that's a shocker. And then with the heavy rain Gisbon,

1397
01:20:47,175 --> 01:20:52,975
Speaker 2: they ended up having to open the sewer or the

1398
01:20:53,015 --> 01:20:56,455
Speaker 2: settling ponds into the river because they were worried about

1399
01:20:56,455 --> 01:20:59,135
Speaker 2: it backing up and coming back into people's houses, which

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01:20:59,135 --> 01:21:02,295
Speaker 2: again I guess is a sensible precaution to ensuring that

1401
01:21:02,415 --> 01:21:06,175
Speaker 2: individual houses aren't impacted by sewage overflows. But at the

1402
01:21:06,175 --> 01:21:09,815
Speaker 2: same time, releasing raw sewage into the river is not

1403
01:21:09,935 --> 01:21:14,015
Speaker 2: great either. So you're right, we've got to huge infrastructure issues.

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01:21:14,815 --> 01:21:17,775
Speaker 17: This is what we're faced with here. But it's having

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01:21:17,855 --> 01:21:23,655
Speaker 17: an added costs to these oyster farmers. It's cost a minieh.

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01:21:23,655 --> 01:21:27,535
Speaker 2: That's right. If they can't trade because can't get back together.

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01:21:27,815 --> 01:21:32,535
Speaker 17: We got the council came down to air for sure

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01:21:32,975 --> 01:21:38,215
Speaker 17: and inspect of what was being washed up there, and

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01:21:39,935 --> 01:21:42,735
Speaker 17: they really said you must not go swimming in here.

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01:21:42,735 --> 01:21:46,495
Speaker 17: And I said, what about the dead fish? He said, well,

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01:21:47,335 --> 01:21:53,295
Speaker 17: you don't eat them, do you not. I said to her,

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01:21:53,375 --> 01:21:57,255
Speaker 17: you should have signs on all the boat ramps around

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01:21:58,095 --> 01:22:01,135
Speaker 17: to tell people this. But they don't want the public

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01:22:01,175 --> 01:22:05,175
Speaker 17: to know about it, and they and they sort of camouflage.

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01:22:05,415 --> 01:22:07,335
Speaker 17: You might say, I'll have.

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01:22:07,255 --> 01:22:09,975
Speaker 2: A look at that story, George. I do have a

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01:22:09,975 --> 01:22:12,775
Speaker 2: bit of sympathy for old Mayor Brown and Auckland, who

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01:22:13,135 --> 01:22:19,415
Speaker 2: has been pretty enthusiastic about the new pool. Essentially, it's

1419
01:22:19,575 --> 01:22:25,055
Speaker 2: it's just an area in Auckland's Viaduct harbor. That's they've

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01:22:25,055 --> 01:22:28,095
Speaker 2: created some lanes and you can go and do bombs

1421
01:22:28,135 --> 01:22:30,975
Speaker 2: or mone who's off the wharf there and go and

1422
01:22:31,055 --> 01:22:34,815
Speaker 2: swim in the fresh in the open water as such.

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01:22:35,655 --> 01:22:39,055
Speaker 2: And then the other day there was a notification to say, oh, look,

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01:22:39,095 --> 01:22:41,415
Speaker 2: the bacteria levels might be high, but it's on a

1425
01:22:41,455 --> 01:22:44,215
Speaker 2: modeling basis. He's saying, well, it's not actually a survey,

1426
01:22:44,255 --> 01:22:47,095
Speaker 2: it's a model that thinks that after the rain it'll

1427
01:22:47,135 --> 01:22:50,495
Speaker 2: have higher levels of equal matter in it not safe

1428
01:22:50,495 --> 01:22:54,175
Speaker 2: to swim. You can make your own judgment on that.

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01:22:54,535 --> 01:22:57,215
Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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01:22:58,775 --> 01:23:02,495
Speaker 2: Here's an interesting text from Ian Syria System's Pete.

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01:23:03,175 --> 01:23:03,255
Speaker 9: You.

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01:23:03,655 --> 01:23:08,135
Speaker 2: Increasingly, I have found defend bureaucracy. Counsels impose endless costs

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01:23:08,135 --> 01:23:10,535
Speaker 2: on the public because five percent of the population event

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01:23:10,735 --> 01:23:13,775
Speaker 2: really rules me. I think riles you, probably, but you

1435
01:23:13,815 --> 01:23:16,895
Speaker 2: seem to regularly make excuses for this. It's unbelievable. Ian.

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01:23:18,455 --> 01:23:21,255
Speaker 2: I'd like to think that I'm reasonably even handed about that.

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01:23:22,055 --> 01:23:25,335
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of bureaucracy, but I'm also

1438
01:23:25,495 --> 01:23:32,535
Speaker 2: aware that regulations require enforcement and they require record keeping,

1439
01:23:32,615 --> 01:23:38,615
Speaker 2: so bureaucracy is unfortunately essential in terms of running a

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01:23:38,655 --> 01:23:42,735
Speaker 2: civil society. That's why if I feel that I need

1441
01:23:42,775 --> 01:23:47,895
Speaker 2: to will defend it. Is it sensible to require homeowners

1442
01:23:47,895 --> 01:23:53,455
Speaker 2: to prove that their septic system works? I think it'd

1443
01:23:53,455 --> 01:23:58,495
Speaker 2: be hard to argue that it's not unreasonable. Is a

1444
01:23:58,535 --> 01:24:03,455
Speaker 2: six monthly inspection required, particularly on relatively new systems? Probably

1445
01:24:03,495 --> 01:24:09,495
Speaker 2: not your thoughts. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number

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01:24:09,535 --> 01:24:12,335
Speaker 2: to call. Jan A very good morning to you.

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01:24:13,535 --> 01:24:17,095
Speaker 10: Yes, Hello, I'm just wondering, Peter, if you can advise

1448
01:24:17,215 --> 01:24:22,655
Speaker 10: me about double glazing. My daughter's got a house that's

1449
01:24:22,735 --> 01:24:27,735
Speaker 10: twenty four years old, right, and it's just single glazed. Yep,

1450
01:24:28,415 --> 01:24:33,855
Speaker 10: it's brick with elemanum windows. Who do you think we

1451
01:24:33,935 --> 01:24:36,215
Speaker 10: could ask to come and here look at it too?

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01:24:36,775 --> 01:24:42,335
Speaker 2: Sure? Okay, let me declare an interest, right, So for

1453
01:24:42,895 --> 01:24:46,535
Speaker 2: Shivers it's got to be eight nine years now. I've

1454
01:24:46,535 --> 01:24:50,055
Speaker 2: acted as a brand ambassador for Metro Performance Glass, who

1455
01:24:50,135 --> 01:24:55,695
Speaker 2: have the retro DG brand of double glazing, right, yes,

1456
01:24:55,935 --> 01:25:00,975
Speaker 2: And so I've done that because I can see the

1457
01:25:01,055 --> 01:25:05,215
Speaker 2: usefulness in double glazing. I think that you know, there

1458
01:25:05,255 --> 01:25:08,695
Speaker 2: is so much evidence, So I know the statistics and

1459
01:25:08,735 --> 01:25:12,255
Speaker 2: the numbers and the dynamics of if you have a

1460
01:25:12,255 --> 01:25:14,855
Speaker 2: piece of single glazing, how much heat loss or heat

1461
01:25:14,895 --> 01:25:19,495
Speaker 2: gain you'll get versus what double glazing does in order

1462
01:25:19,535 --> 01:25:22,815
Speaker 2: to reduce that. So some way like christ Church and

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01:25:24,335 --> 01:25:28,695
Speaker 2: retrofitting is really important because often as we up skill

1464
01:25:28,975 --> 01:25:33,455
Speaker 2: or sorry not upskill, we increase the thermal efficiency of our

1465
01:25:33,495 --> 01:25:36,215
Speaker 2: buildings by adding insulation to the ceilings or to the

1466
01:25:36,295 --> 01:25:39,815
Speaker 2: underfloor or maybe even retrospectively fitting it into the walls.

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01:25:40,255 --> 01:25:43,335
Speaker 2: Then our glazing becomes the weak point, right, it's the

1468
01:25:43,495 --> 01:25:47,375
Speaker 2: one part of the thermal envelope of a building where

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01:25:47,615 --> 01:25:51,415
Speaker 2: heat loss will occur. Now, the beauty of a house

1470
01:25:51,455 --> 01:25:53,935
Speaker 2: it's about twenty four years old is that chances are

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01:25:54,015 --> 01:25:56,855
Speaker 2: when it was built it had insulation in the ceiling.

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01:25:57,255 --> 01:25:59,895
Speaker 2: If it's on a concrete slab, it may or may

1473
01:25:59,935 --> 01:26:02,815
Speaker 2: not be some sort of thermal break there, but it

1474
01:26:02,855 --> 01:26:05,895
Speaker 2: will have insulation into the walls as well. Possibly not

1475
01:26:05,975 --> 01:26:08,015
Speaker 2: as much is what we do today, but it will

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01:26:08,015 --> 01:26:11,335
Speaker 2: be there in which case, and it will have relatively

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01:26:11,415 --> 01:26:16,695
Speaker 2: new aluminium jewinery, I presume. Okay, So you look at

1478
01:26:16,695 --> 01:26:19,255
Speaker 2: that and you go where is the heat loss coming from?

1479
01:26:19,335 --> 01:26:21,895
Speaker 2: And you can just point to the glazing, the single

1480
01:26:21,895 --> 01:26:25,455
Speaker 2: glazing and go that's where your heat loss happens. Because

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01:26:25,495 --> 01:26:29,935
Speaker 2: it's relatively modern aluminum jewinery, it's not that difficult to

1482
01:26:30,015 --> 01:26:35,975
Speaker 2: retro fit into there. And the performance gains are great

1483
01:26:36,055 --> 01:26:39,335
Speaker 2: and so very basic level. If you take a piece

1484
01:26:39,375 --> 01:26:43,935
Speaker 2: of single glazed glass or single glazed jowinery and then

1485
01:26:43,975 --> 01:26:48,575
Speaker 2: you replace that with double glazing, the heat loss reduces.

1486
01:26:50,175 --> 01:26:53,815
Speaker 2: Double glazing is seven times more effective, right, keeping the

1487
01:26:53,855 --> 01:26:56,935
Speaker 2: heat in, And there's numbers and evidence to back all

1488
01:26:56,975 --> 01:27:00,695
Speaker 2: that up. So yeah, I've chosen to work with them

1489
01:27:00,695 --> 01:27:02,855
Speaker 2: and they've chosen to work with me, but for very

1490
01:27:02,855 --> 01:27:05,775
Speaker 2: good reason. It makes a significant difference to a house.

1491
01:27:06,895 --> 01:27:09,335
Speaker 10: Right, you wouldn't have a phone number for here in

1492
01:27:09,415 --> 01:27:10,375
Speaker 10: christ you just go.

1493
01:27:10,855 --> 01:27:13,295
Speaker 2: I know that we've got a team down there. So

1494
01:27:13,415 --> 01:27:16,335
Speaker 2: if you just go online register your interest, someone will

1495
01:27:16,375 --> 01:27:18,615
Speaker 2: come out and do a site measure for you. So

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01:27:18,775 --> 01:27:21,975
Speaker 2: just look up retrodg dot co dot nz and you'll

1497
01:27:21,975 --> 01:27:27,415
Speaker 2: find all of the information there retro dg yep dot

1498
01:27:27,455 --> 01:27:30,615
Speaker 2: co dot Let us know how you get on.

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01:27:31,535 --> 01:27:35,455
Speaker 10: He is very interested in the windows run water overnight,

1500
01:27:35,655 --> 01:27:37,975
Speaker 10: you know, and I don't think that's healthy for anyone.

1501
01:27:38,095 --> 01:27:42,335
Speaker 2: No, it's not. There might be some other issues around condensation,

1502
01:27:42,495 --> 01:27:45,095
Speaker 2: so it might also be heating and those sorts of things.

1503
01:27:45,095 --> 01:27:46,775
Speaker 2: But of course it's harder to heat a house if

1504
01:27:46,775 --> 01:27:49,095
Speaker 2: you've got single glazing and you're losing all of that

1505
01:27:49,255 --> 01:27:51,855
Speaker 2: energy out through the single glazing. So have a look

1506
01:27:51,855 --> 01:27:54,375
Speaker 2: at that. That by all means, mention my name and

1507
01:27:54,415 --> 01:27:55,175
Speaker 2: then go from there.

1508
01:27:56,095 --> 01:27:58,415
Speaker 10: That's lovely, lovely, very much for your home.

1509
01:27:58,375 --> 01:28:01,255
Speaker 2: My pleasure, take care all of us. Jan and John,

1510
01:28:01,295 --> 01:28:04,615
Speaker 2: A very good morning to you. Hello John, Why does

1511
01:28:04,735 --> 01:28:06,455
Speaker 2: that not want to hang on, here we go there,

1512
01:28:06,455 --> 01:28:08,015
Speaker 2: I got you now, John, how are you going?

1513
01:28:08,095 --> 01:28:10,175
Speaker 12: Okay? Good morning, Pete, Good morning.

1514
01:28:10,215 --> 01:28:13,175
Speaker 16: On Friday, my wife and I looked at a property, yes,

1515
01:28:13,295 --> 01:28:16,975
Speaker 16: which ticks a lot of the boxes that we're looking for.

1516
01:28:17,455 --> 01:28:20,455
Speaker 16: But the agent made a few disclosures, one of which

1517
01:28:20,695 --> 01:28:26,015
Speaker 16: was that a reasonably large deck was unconsented. What would

1518
01:28:26,055 --> 01:28:29,095
Speaker 16: we be lining ourselves up for there if we consider

1519
01:28:29,295 --> 01:28:30,535
Speaker 16: purchasing that property.

1520
01:28:31,295 --> 01:28:34,015
Speaker 2: Okay, without wanting to give sort of legal advice or

1521
01:28:34,015 --> 01:28:37,535
Speaker 2: anything like that, it is quite possible that the deck

1522
01:28:37,735 --> 01:28:40,295
Speaker 2: could be built under Schedule one of the Building Act,

1523
01:28:40,335 --> 01:28:43,935
Speaker 2: in which case it doesn't require a building consent. So if,

1524
01:28:43,975 --> 01:28:47,775
Speaker 2: for example, it's not particularly close to the boundary, or

1525
01:28:47,775 --> 01:28:51,975
Speaker 2: it's less than one point five meters high, typically doesn't

1526
01:28:52,015 --> 01:28:55,295
Speaker 2: require a building consent. However, if it's on a Crossley's

1527
01:28:55,335 --> 01:28:59,215
Speaker 2: property and the deck has not been added to the

1528
01:28:59,255 --> 01:29:04,335
Speaker 2: flats plan, that can become quite a costly process.

1529
01:29:04,775 --> 01:29:09,535
Speaker 12: Yes, okay, it's it's definitely over one point five meters high.

1530
01:29:09,775 --> 01:29:11,575
Speaker 2: Then it does require a building consent.

1531
01:29:12,415 --> 01:29:15,975
Speaker 16: Yes, it's extremely sturdy. Three of us were standing on

1532
01:29:16,015 --> 01:29:18,855
Speaker 16: it when we were looking at the property. But the

1533
01:29:18,935 --> 01:29:23,375
Speaker 16: agents sent through the property file and going back through

1534
01:29:23,535 --> 01:29:28,455
Speaker 16: all the information, it appears that the decks were deleted

1535
01:29:28,495 --> 01:29:34,535
Speaker 16: from the original application for a building consent, But without

1536
01:29:34,655 --> 01:29:38,735
Speaker 16: knowing the full story, it looks like perhaps sometimes after

1537
01:29:39,375 --> 01:29:42,855
Speaker 16: they received the code of Compliance certificates for building.

1538
01:29:42,535 --> 01:29:45,175
Speaker 2: They then added the decks later then added.

1539
01:29:44,895 --> 01:29:45,495
Speaker 12: The decks on.

1540
01:29:46,055 --> 01:29:49,575
Speaker 16: Yes, so is that a mine field that we should

1541
01:29:49,575 --> 01:29:55,015
Speaker 16: avoid or I mean, obviously if we consider making an offer,

1542
01:29:55,135 --> 01:29:59,575
Speaker 16: we could make an offer taking the unconsented deck into account.

1543
01:30:00,175 --> 01:30:03,335
Speaker 16: But of course, subsequently, if we look at selling, a

1544
01:30:03,455 --> 01:30:05,735
Speaker 16: potential purchase is going to do the same to us.

1545
01:30:06,375 --> 01:30:09,335
Speaker 2: You've got to where I was heading, which is, you know, yes,

1546
01:30:09,415 --> 01:30:11,375
Speaker 2: you could take the risk. But when you go to sell,

1547
01:30:11,535 --> 01:30:16,695
Speaker 2: as inevitably we all do, then a new purchaser is

1548
01:30:16,735 --> 01:30:19,015
Speaker 2: going to ask you the question, how come that decks

1549
01:30:19,015 --> 01:30:20,695
Speaker 2: there and it didn't have a bad incent when it

1550
01:30:20,695 --> 01:30:24,455
Speaker 2: obviously added one. What I can say is that the

1551
01:30:25,175 --> 01:30:28,935
Speaker 2: process of getting like retrospective building consents don't exist right,

1552
01:30:29,015 --> 01:30:31,335
Speaker 2: so you would need to go to council for a

1553
01:30:31,375 --> 01:30:35,455
Speaker 2: certificate of acceptance. The burden of proof for a certificate

1554
01:30:35,455 --> 01:30:38,255
Speaker 2: of acceptance is now much higher than it used to be,

1555
01:30:38,775 --> 01:30:41,295
Speaker 2: so typically in the past, inspector would come out to

1556
01:30:41,295 --> 01:30:43,415
Speaker 2: do a safe and sanitary report. They'd look at it

1557
01:30:43,415 --> 01:30:45,015
Speaker 2: and go, is it going to fall down? No, it's not.

1558
01:30:45,135 --> 01:30:48,055
Speaker 2: Here's you're safe and sanitary. I'm being a bit flippant,

1559
01:30:48,055 --> 01:30:51,335
Speaker 2: But today they would expect you to have someone draw

1560
01:30:51,455 --> 01:30:55,975
Speaker 2: up an as built plan so to ensure that it

1561
01:30:56,015 --> 01:30:58,495
Speaker 2: does the way that it's built does actually comply with

1562
01:30:58,535 --> 01:31:01,575
Speaker 2: the code in terms of the type of piles, the

1563
01:31:01,655 --> 01:31:04,055
Speaker 2: amount of bracing, the span of the bearers, the span

1564
01:31:04,095 --> 01:31:07,135
Speaker 2: of the joysts, the height of the handrail, the way

1565
01:31:07,175 --> 01:31:09,455
Speaker 2: in which the handrail has fixed, all of these sorts

1566
01:31:09,495 --> 01:31:13,215
Speaker 2: of things. And if what's built, even if it is sturdy,

1567
01:31:13,375 --> 01:31:15,615
Speaker 2: doesn't comply with the building code, then you'd need to

1568
01:31:15,695 --> 01:31:18,055
Speaker 2: upgrade it in order to get a certificate of acceptance.

1569
01:31:19,175 --> 01:31:23,815
Speaker 2: But you know, you could spend five ten thousand dollars

1570
01:31:23,895 --> 01:31:27,655
Speaker 2: trying to get compliance for it, and that one of

1571
01:31:27,695 --> 01:31:29,855
Speaker 2: the tricky things would be is how do you determine

1572
01:31:29,855 --> 01:31:33,615
Speaker 2: that the foundations are as per the spec You know,

1573
01:31:33,655 --> 01:31:35,615
Speaker 2: do you dig down next to one of them and

1574
01:31:35,655 --> 01:31:39,015
Speaker 2: find that it's four hundred deep and does that then

1575
01:31:39,095 --> 01:31:41,455
Speaker 2: imply that all of them are four hundred deep? So

1576
01:31:41,535 --> 01:31:44,455
Speaker 2: you can see that there's some fishshocks in it. I'm

1577
01:31:44,495 --> 01:31:48,055
Speaker 2: always reluctant to say, you know, don't do something, and

1578
01:31:48,375 --> 01:31:51,495
Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting that, but I am suggesting that it

1579
01:31:51,535 --> 01:31:57,455
Speaker 2: does get complicated, and typically with building, complicated means expensive.

1580
01:31:58,495 --> 01:32:00,295
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, thank you.

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01:31:59,735 --> 01:32:03,175
Speaker 2: You've kind of go in with your eyes wide open,

1582
01:32:03,855 --> 01:32:04,095
Speaker 2: you know.

1583
01:32:04,215 --> 01:32:09,495
Speaker 16: Yes, I suppose that's fair enough easement on a on

1584
01:32:09,575 --> 01:32:11,935
Speaker 16: a driveway. Can I ask you a quick question about that?

1585
01:32:12,175 --> 01:32:12,655
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure.

1586
01:32:14,615 --> 01:32:17,735
Speaker 16: There are two townhouses on this property, and we're looking

1587
01:32:17,775 --> 01:32:22,055
Speaker 16: at one. We seem to on the title we own

1588
01:32:22,735 --> 01:32:26,255
Speaker 16: the first two thirds of the driveway, and the townhouse

1589
01:32:26,295 --> 01:32:29,495
Speaker 16: behind owns the balance of the driveway, and they have

1590
01:32:29,535 --> 01:32:35,415
Speaker 16: an easement to use your our driveway. There doesn't seem

1591
01:32:35,455 --> 01:32:39,415
Speaker 16: to be anything in the title also suggests that they

1592
01:32:39,415 --> 01:32:41,255
Speaker 16: would contribute to any maintenance.

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01:32:41,735 --> 01:32:43,175
Speaker 12: Would that be normal?

1594
01:32:43,295 --> 01:32:47,055
Speaker 2: Would that be I don't know whether the maintenance thing

1595
01:32:47,175 --> 01:32:51,055
Speaker 2: is typically included in the title and in the way

1596
01:32:51,095 --> 01:32:54,055
Speaker 2: in which the driveway is divided up. I suppose could

1597
01:32:54,135 --> 01:32:57,455
Speaker 2: vary some that I've seen. You know, everyone's got a

1598
01:32:57,535 --> 01:33:01,495
Speaker 2: strip of the driveway, right, Yes, this is since you've

1599
01:33:01,495 --> 01:33:04,055
Speaker 2: got a segment of it. But I guess if the

1600
01:33:04,295 --> 01:33:07,175
Speaker 2: segment is beyond your property, then it kind of makes

1601
01:33:07,215 --> 01:33:09,895
Speaker 2: sense that that becomes their part of it. Your part

1602
01:33:09,975 --> 01:33:11,855
Speaker 2: is outside your house, and then the other part is

1603
01:33:11,895 --> 01:33:17,135
Speaker 2: the other property, the maintenance thing. I don't know that

1604
01:33:17,135 --> 01:33:20,055
Speaker 2: that's typically included in the title, but I think maybe

1605
01:33:20,175 --> 01:33:22,495
Speaker 2: under the Property Act you might find that you can

1606
01:33:22,655 --> 01:33:25,855
Speaker 2: do that. But again, there was an interesting story the

1607
01:33:25,895 --> 01:33:28,335
Speaker 2: other day in Takapuna, or on the North Shore, where

1608
01:33:28,935 --> 01:33:34,535
Speaker 2: ten properties that shared a driveway. They nine of the

1609
01:33:34,575 --> 01:33:38,495
Speaker 2: homeowners were able to be contacted and agreed to contribute

1610
01:33:38,495 --> 01:33:41,415
Speaker 2: to the cost of maintenance. One homeowner, who couldn't be

1611
01:33:41,455 --> 01:33:45,335
Speaker 2: contacted and therefore didn't give their agreement, was sent an

1612
01:33:45,335 --> 01:33:48,735
Speaker 2: invoice for their portion of the repairs. Said I didn't

1613
01:33:48,815 --> 01:33:51,055
Speaker 2: consent to it, therefore I'm not going to pay, and

1614
01:33:51,135 --> 01:33:57,015
Speaker 2: the courts upheld that. But that's a slightly different issue.

1615
01:33:57,015 --> 01:34:03,575
Speaker 2: That's around consent essentially, and you can't undertake repairs expecting

1616
01:34:03,615 --> 01:34:06,975
Speaker 2: someone's going to contribute if they haven't given their consent contributing.

1617
01:34:07,295 --> 01:34:10,335
Speaker 2: So I wonder whether in your case, with the title

1618
01:34:10,375 --> 01:34:13,135
Speaker 2: and the easement, if there was maintenance, you would you

1619
01:34:13,175 --> 01:34:15,215
Speaker 2: would need to get the agreement of all of the

1620
01:34:15,255 --> 01:34:17,895
Speaker 2: affected parties before you undertook any expense.

1621
01:34:19,095 --> 01:34:21,175
Speaker 12: Yes, no, Hey.

1622
01:34:20,935 --> 01:34:24,695
Speaker 16: Thanks very much yea for your thoughts, but e'd appreciate it.

1623
01:34:24,655 --> 01:34:26,255
Speaker 2: All right, Really nice talking to you and good luck

1624
01:34:26,255 --> 01:34:29,935
Speaker 2: with the process. The very best. Do you take care. John,

1625
01:34:30,255 --> 01:34:34,255
Speaker 2: you're with New Stork, said b. I'm with the inmate.

1626
01:34:34,415 --> 01:34:37,655
Speaker 2: You're consistently trying to justify bureaucracy and more and more

1627
01:34:37,655 --> 01:34:40,535
Speaker 2: regulation building, which is most annoying Tree from christ Church.

1628
01:34:42,175 --> 01:34:44,975
Speaker 2: If we want better buildings, we probably need better regulations.

1629
01:34:46,735 --> 01:34:48,415
Speaker 2: That's all I'm going to say. Oh, eight hundred and

1630
01:34:48,455 --> 01:34:50,335
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty the number to call. We're going to

1631
01:34:50,335 --> 01:34:52,935
Speaker 2: talk to at around eight point thirty. If you've got

1632
01:34:52,935 --> 01:34:55,695
Speaker 2: a comment to make in the very very briefest bit

1633
01:34:55,735 --> 01:35:00,855
Speaker 2: of time that we've got left, you're welcome to do so. Oh,

1634
01:35:00,895 --> 01:35:04,055
Speaker 2: this is interesting. We've talked quite a bit about septic systems.

1635
01:35:04,095 --> 01:35:06,575
Speaker 2: This is the new regulations. So this is just come

1636
01:35:06,615 --> 01:35:10,095
Speaker 2: in morning read the council and the septic systems orcan

1637
01:35:10,135 --> 01:35:13,615
Speaker 2: Council imposes different rules on comparable properties. We live in

1638
01:35:13,655 --> 01:35:16,935
Speaker 2: north west Auckland, with most houses less than three years old.

1639
01:35:17,055 --> 01:35:20,775
Speaker 2: Council have been unbelievable with their requirements, very inconsistent, requiring

1640
01:35:20,815 --> 01:35:24,575
Speaker 2: some owners to spend thousands of dollars, ranging from soil testing,

1641
01:35:24,695 --> 01:35:29,175
Speaker 2: river assessments, and extensive planting others. No special requirements in

1642
01:35:29,215 --> 01:35:32,215
Speaker 2: grass growing over the drip lines. I'm all for common

1643
01:35:32,255 --> 01:35:35,975
Speaker 2: sense rules, but inconsistency in rules and application the rules

1644
01:35:36,055 --> 01:35:39,895
Speaker 2: reinforces that our council are incompetent. I'm just reading the

1645
01:35:39,895 --> 01:35:44,295
Speaker 2: text out to be here. The inconsistency would be frustrating though.

1646
01:35:45,375 --> 01:35:48,495
Speaker 2: Soil testing, river assessments, extensive planting that would have to

1647
01:35:48,495 --> 01:35:51,695
Speaker 2: be part of the actual construction if you're proposing one,

1648
01:35:51,895 --> 01:35:55,015
Speaker 2: if there's one there, would you still need to do

1649
01:35:55,095 --> 01:35:58,975
Speaker 2: soil testing? Oh eight, one hundred and eighty, ten eighty,

1650
01:35:59,095 --> 01:36:03,935
Speaker 2: there's the number to call. Should we take a break? Now?

1651
01:36:04,095 --> 01:36:04,775
Speaker 2: Do we take a break?

1652
01:36:04,775 --> 01:36:04,935
Speaker 9: Now?

1653
01:36:05,055 --> 01:36:08,255
Speaker 2: We wait for rid? Now, we'll wait for a couple

1654
01:36:08,295 --> 01:36:12,735
Speaker 2: of minutes. It is typically my process at the end

1655
01:36:12,735 --> 01:36:14,815
Speaker 2: of the year to offer up a few thanks, and

1656
01:36:14,855 --> 01:36:18,935
Speaker 2: I'll do that right now. Actually, for you know, twenty

1657
01:36:18,975 --> 01:36:21,735
Speaker 2: twenty four has been challenging, right, it's a fair way

1658
01:36:21,775 --> 01:36:24,655
Speaker 2: of saying it. In construction and so on, and generally

1659
01:36:24,735 --> 01:36:27,775
Speaker 2: in business, it is my great pleasure. As I mentioned

1660
01:36:27,775 --> 01:36:32,415
Speaker 2: to jan actually she asked about retro double glazing, and

1661
01:36:32,495 --> 01:36:34,855
Speaker 2: they've been a company that I've been associated with for

1662
01:36:34,935 --> 01:36:38,455
Speaker 2: a number of years. I continue to support what they

1663
01:36:38,575 --> 01:36:41,375
Speaker 2: do because I think double glazing works basically, so why

1664
01:36:41,415 --> 01:36:45,375
Speaker 2: wouldn't you have it? And so metro or retro DG

1665
01:36:45,575 --> 01:36:47,855
Speaker 2: metro performance glass that I've worked with them for a

1666
01:36:47,895 --> 01:36:50,175
Speaker 2: number of years and I really appreciate that. I also

1667
01:36:50,255 --> 01:36:56,615
Speaker 2: work with Bailey Tanks, so again rainwater harvesting, sustainability, but

1668
01:36:56,735 --> 01:36:59,535
Speaker 2: of resilience. These things are really important and they're also

1669
01:36:59,655 --> 01:37:02,415
Speaker 2: part of innovation. So whether it's you know, tanks for

1670
01:37:02,535 --> 01:37:07,815
Speaker 2: urban environments, tanks for using up underused space underneath your deka,

1671
01:37:07,895 --> 01:37:10,455
Speaker 2: under the house, or the brand new in ground tanks

1672
01:37:10,455 --> 01:37:14,095
Speaker 2: that they've just developed, it's all part of making our

1673
01:37:14,335 --> 01:37:16,695
Speaker 2: properties a little bit more sustainable, a little bit more

1674
01:37:16,775 --> 01:37:20,455
Speaker 2: environmentally friendly, and certainly a lot more resilient. And certainly

1675
01:37:20,455 --> 01:37:23,415
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the fact that over the summer,

1676
01:37:23,495 --> 01:37:26,295
Speaker 2: when it really stops raining and a water the garden

1677
01:37:26,735 --> 01:37:28,415
Speaker 2: that I can do so out of a water tank,

1678
01:37:28,455 --> 01:37:30,855
Speaker 2: that I've done my own little bit of rain water

1679
01:37:30,895 --> 01:37:34,575
Speaker 2: harvesting in an environment, in an urban environment. So my

1680
01:37:34,655 --> 01:37:37,535
Speaker 2: thanks to the team at Bailey's, the good people at

1681
01:37:37,615 --> 01:37:40,895
Speaker 2: J and L. Duken. So this is Jayframe and tryboard

1682
01:37:41,575 --> 01:37:44,895
Speaker 2: long association with them as well, and continuing to see

1683
01:37:44,895 --> 01:37:47,695
Speaker 2: sort of the innovation that they bring to the sector,

1684
01:37:47,735 --> 01:37:51,335
Speaker 2: particularly around in some cases some affordable housing solutions that

1685
01:37:51,415 --> 01:37:55,855
Speaker 2: Tryboarder is part of, and just better building with Jaframe

1686
01:37:56,455 --> 01:38:00,895
Speaker 2: Framing as well, and Mike Colds has been regular contributed

1687
01:38:00,935 --> 01:38:04,735
Speaker 2: to the show. So Razine Construction Systems again, my thanks

1688
01:38:04,735 --> 01:38:08,455
Speaker 2: to their team and to the fantastic work when it

1689
01:38:08,535 --> 01:38:11,855
Speaker 2: all get a but tricky, you know, with exterior clouding systems,

1690
01:38:11,935 --> 01:38:13,535
Speaker 2: they were one of the first hour of the blocks

1691
01:38:13,575 --> 01:38:15,695
Speaker 2: to go okay, well we can do better and here's

1692
01:38:15,735 --> 01:38:17,855
Speaker 2: what our systems are going to be like going forward.

1693
01:38:17,895 --> 01:38:22,695
Speaker 2: And I really appreciate again that innovation and that forward

1694
01:38:22,815 --> 01:38:26,495
Speaker 2: thinking that we see from a company like Razine Construction Systems,

1695
01:38:26,575 --> 01:38:30,575
Speaker 2: Jay and Bryce from Razine Paints in general, they've been

1696
01:38:30,615 --> 01:38:33,975
Speaker 2: fantastic on the show this year offering up their advice.

1697
01:38:34,335 --> 01:38:37,655
Speaker 2: I've had a number of really outstanding contributors have joined

1698
01:38:37,695 --> 01:38:40,375
Speaker 2: us kind of on an ad hoc basis, so from

1699
01:38:40,415 --> 01:38:43,495
Speaker 2: people from the dispute stribunal. We've had Hamish Firth, our

1700
01:38:43,615 --> 01:38:48,335
Speaker 2: planner talking about Auckland. Well we're talking about planning rules

1701
01:38:48,335 --> 01:38:51,295
Speaker 2: in general, but Hamish has been really good, very succinct

1702
01:38:51,295 --> 01:38:54,615
Speaker 2: around changes to the RMA. I know we've got some

1703
01:38:54,735 --> 01:38:56,455
Speaker 2: time booked in with him in the new year to

1704
01:38:56,455 --> 01:38:59,615
Speaker 2: talk about this latest water care announcement, saying this is

1705
01:38:59,655 --> 01:39:01,655
Speaker 2: where the development's going to happen and where it's not,

1706
01:39:01,855 --> 01:39:03,855
Speaker 2: or where our infrastructure is going to be and where

1707
01:39:03,855 --> 01:39:07,255
Speaker 2: it's not. So we'll talk to Hamish, Mike Thornton who's

1708
01:39:07,255 --> 01:39:09,015
Speaker 2: been on the show a couple of times offering up

1709
01:39:09,015 --> 01:39:12,615
Speaker 2: some legal advice. Ben Johnson as well talking about the

1710
01:39:12,655 --> 01:39:15,055
Speaker 2: Property Act. We'll get him back on the show this year.

1711
01:39:15,455 --> 01:39:19,775
Speaker 2: So and to Hailey from Doozy who helps manage my

1712
01:39:20,575 --> 01:39:23,855
Speaker 2: business affairs and so on, I really appreciate your support

1713
01:39:23,895 --> 01:39:27,375
Speaker 2: as well, and more importantly thank you for being part

1714
01:39:27,375 --> 01:39:32,335
Speaker 2: of the show in twenty twenty five as well. Ratings

1715
01:39:32,335 --> 01:39:37,455
Speaker 2: are reasonable, listenership is pretty good numbers across the country,

1716
01:39:37,895 --> 01:39:41,175
Speaker 2: and more importantly for me, it's the occasional sort of

1717
01:39:41,575 --> 01:39:44,615
Speaker 2: bumping into someone at a hardware store or at home

1718
01:39:44,655 --> 01:39:47,495
Speaker 2: and garden show. Actually, the good people at Jade Promotions

1719
01:39:47,495 --> 01:39:49,975
Speaker 2: who run the home and garden shows really enjoy working

1720
01:39:50,015 --> 01:39:53,295
Speaker 2: with them as well and will continue to do so.

1721
01:39:53,535 --> 01:39:56,815
Speaker 2: And an increasing range of home and garden shows around

1722
01:39:56,815 --> 01:39:58,575
Speaker 2: the country. I think first one will kick off and

1723
01:39:59,055 --> 01:40:02,975
Speaker 2: wrote au next year there'll be new shows in Queenstown,

1724
01:40:03,015 --> 01:40:05,575
Speaker 2: There'll be a new show in Needen. Hoping to get

1725
01:40:05,575 --> 01:40:09,135
Speaker 2: back to tim as well. So looking forward to being

1726
01:40:09,175 --> 01:40:11,655
Speaker 2: on the road with the Home and Garden Show and

1727
01:40:11,695 --> 01:40:16,015
Speaker 2: the home and Better Living shows around the country this year. Yeah,

1728
01:40:16,015 --> 01:40:20,895
Speaker 2: but for you to my listeners and callers and texters,

1729
01:40:20,935 --> 01:40:22,695
Speaker 2: and I have to say at the end of the year,

1730
01:40:22,735 --> 01:40:24,975
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got fantastic texts, not all of them

1731
01:40:25,015 --> 01:40:33,895
Speaker 2: complementary to be fair, and possibly the most memorable amongst

1732
01:40:33,895 --> 01:40:37,375
Speaker 2: a number of memorable ones. I made an off the

1733
01:40:37,495 --> 01:40:40,975
Speaker 2: cuff remark about someone was looking at at how do

1734
01:40:41,055 --> 01:40:42,975
Speaker 2: I you know I've got a loose screw in a

1735
01:40:43,015 --> 01:40:45,495
Speaker 2: door hinge? Is there a particular type of product that

1736
01:40:45,575 --> 01:40:49,695
Speaker 2: I need to use? Looking for sort of I guess

1737
01:40:49,775 --> 01:40:53,895
Speaker 2: elaborate or complex solutions to that. And I just suggested that, hey,

1738
01:40:53,895 --> 01:40:56,495
Speaker 2: look what I do in those in some of those situations,

1739
01:40:56,535 --> 01:40:58,695
Speaker 2: take the screw out, get a match to jam it

1740
01:40:58,735 --> 01:41:00,935
Speaker 2: in there, snap the top off, put the screw back in.

1741
01:41:01,295 --> 01:41:03,735
Speaker 2: Job done, And a couple of weeks later I got

1742
01:41:03,735 --> 01:41:07,095
Speaker 2: a text from someone who described herself as a seventy

1743
01:41:07,135 --> 01:41:09,975
Speaker 2: three year old woman living on her own who doesn't

1744
01:41:09,975 --> 01:41:11,935
Speaker 2: do a lot of DIY. And she said, there was

1745
01:41:11,975 --> 01:41:15,895
Speaker 2: a loose hinge in my kitchen. And I remembered what

1746
01:41:15,935 --> 01:41:18,495
Speaker 2: you said, and I got a screwdriver, and I took

1747
01:41:18,535 --> 01:41:20,135
Speaker 2: the screw out, and I put a match sticken, I

1748
01:41:20,175 --> 01:41:22,975
Speaker 2: put the screw back in, and it's fixed. It's probably

1749
01:41:22,975 --> 01:41:26,975
Speaker 2: the first time I've done any DIY. So I figure

1750
01:41:26,975 --> 01:41:28,615
Speaker 2: as I get to the end of twenty twenty four,

1751
01:41:28,975 --> 01:41:32,415
Speaker 2: if I managed to encourage a in her own words,

1752
01:41:32,455 --> 01:41:36,415
Speaker 2: a seventy three year old woman who's never done any

1753
01:41:36,455 --> 01:41:40,895
Speaker 2: DIY to fix something for herself, that's mission accomplished for me.

1754
01:41:43,855 --> 01:41:46,015
Speaker 2: Righty oh, let's get into the garden. Thanks again for

1755
01:41:46,055 --> 01:41:48,335
Speaker 2: your company this year. It's been an absolute pleasure. Let's

1756
01:41:48,375 --> 01:41:50,135
Speaker 2: get into the garden for the last time in twenty

1757
01:41:50,215 --> 01:41:53,175
Speaker 2: twenty four. But don't worry, Rude'll be back and around

1758
01:41:53,175 --> 01:41:57,815
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five as well. Like the weeds that

1759
01:41:57,855 --> 01:42:00,695
Speaker 2: we often talk about, he is pretty much indestructible. Right,

1760
01:42:00,895 --> 01:42:03,535
Speaker 2: rud climb passed after the break, oh eight hundred eighty

1761
01:42:03,615 --> 01:42:04,935
Speaker 2: ten eighty. If you'd like to talk to.

1762
01:42:04,975 --> 01:42:08,575
Speaker 1: Rud doing up the house, sorting the garden, asked Pete

1763
01:42:08,615 --> 01:42:11,615
Speaker 1: for a hand. The resident builder with Peter Wolfcam and

1764
01:42:11,855 --> 01:42:15,295
Speaker 1: life Force solar solar power done right, col.

1765
01:42:16,975 --> 01:42:17,535
Speaker 12: News talks.

1766
01:42:17,535 --> 01:42:21,495
Speaker 2: They'd be climb past. Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Hell are you sir?

1767
01:42:21,975 --> 01:42:25,335
Speaker 18: I'm very good, Peter, and I loved your little ramble

1768
01:42:25,375 --> 01:42:27,535
Speaker 18: about the the y owl boxes again.

1769
01:42:29,775 --> 01:42:31,095
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. It was a bit of

1770
01:42:31,135 --> 01:42:32,975
Speaker 2: a surprise. I was thinking back and I was thinking,

1771
01:42:33,335 --> 01:42:35,495
Speaker 2: you know, if there was one thing that I didn't

1772
01:42:35,495 --> 01:42:37,175
Speaker 2: expect to be building this year, it would have to

1773
01:42:37,175 --> 01:42:41,015
Speaker 2: be ol boxes. But it's been a huge pleasure, to

1774
01:42:41,095 --> 01:42:41,495
Speaker 2: be fair.

1775
01:42:41,935 --> 01:42:42,895
Speaker 5: It's good fun, isn't it.

1776
01:42:43,015 --> 01:42:44,575
Speaker 2: I love it. It's been great.

1777
01:42:45,055 --> 01:42:49,735
Speaker 18: At about five six days ago before Christmas, we looked

1778
01:42:49,735 --> 01:42:52,855
Speaker 18: at a few boxes, the two young owls that we

1779
01:42:52,935 --> 01:42:57,015
Speaker 18: had last have left, yes, and we took the whole

1780
01:42:57,375 --> 01:43:02,015
Speaker 18: interior droppings inside the box out of that box and

1781
01:43:02,015 --> 01:43:03,935
Speaker 18: they are now going to be studied by somebody that

1782
01:43:04,415 --> 01:43:05,575
Speaker 18: can to be university.

1783
01:43:06,335 --> 01:43:07,615
Speaker 5: Aaron is going to look at.

1784
01:43:07,575 --> 01:43:10,735
Speaker 18: Exactly what these things eat when they're young, they're old,

1785
01:43:10,815 --> 01:43:13,975
Speaker 18: and all that sort of stuff. And it's absolutely wonderful

1786
01:43:13,975 --> 01:43:15,815
Speaker 18: what you can do with those boxes because you can

1787
01:43:15,855 --> 01:43:18,495
Speaker 18: actually learn so much from these creatures.

1788
01:43:18,055 --> 01:43:20,735
Speaker 2: Like fantastic citizen science.

1789
01:43:21,495 --> 01:43:25,215
Speaker 18: It's certainly well, no, this is real, proper, this is

1790
01:43:25,375 --> 01:43:30,535
Speaker 18: this is MSc or whatever it is you PD whatever you.

1791
01:43:30,535 --> 01:43:34,575
Speaker 2: Call it, fantastic, fantastic. Right, we've got a full boarder calls.

1792
01:43:34,855 --> 01:43:37,735
Speaker 2: Let's rip into it. Roger A very good morning to you,

1793
01:43:38,415 --> 01:43:39,855
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning.

1794
01:43:40,495 --> 01:43:44,655
Speaker 9: What time to play spy roses for what?

1795
01:43:45,055 --> 01:43:50,495
Speaker 5: Roger flex spot and stuff for for a fungal disease?

1796
01:43:51,375 --> 01:43:56,375
Speaker 11: Yeah, just ap roses. Yeah, and it is a time

1797
01:43:56,415 --> 01:43:57,135
Speaker 11: for you to do it.

1798
01:43:57,535 --> 01:43:59,095
Speaker 18: I would do it now if if I were you,

1799
01:43:59,255 --> 01:44:02,135
Speaker 18: because the moment you get a good number of droplets

1800
01:44:02,135 --> 01:44:04,735
Speaker 18: coming down from a rain shower, you'll find it is

1801
01:44:04,895 --> 01:44:10,175
Speaker 18: basically it's basically vulnerable to get more infection. So in

1802
01:44:10,215 --> 01:44:13,335
Speaker 18: this case, the fungicide you can use, for instance, Nature's

1803
01:44:13,375 --> 01:44:17,855
Speaker 18: Way spray or whatever is basically protecting your roses from

1804
01:44:17,855 --> 01:44:21,615
Speaker 18: being infected rather than having to cure cure it afterwards.

1805
01:44:21,655 --> 01:44:21,895
Speaker 5: You know.

1806
01:44:22,655 --> 01:44:27,335
Speaker 9: Oh am, have a go now all.

1807
01:44:26,655 --> 01:44:31,735
Speaker 2: This and Ian A very good morning to you, good morning.

1808
01:44:33,375 --> 01:44:37,135
Speaker 7: Go for it.

1809
01:44:37,415 --> 01:44:41,735
Speaker 12: We've got Christmas bugs arrive every Christmas in the coramandel,

1810
01:44:42,735 --> 01:44:46,815
Speaker 12: and they're coming plague proportions come after dark or you

1811
01:44:46,855 --> 01:44:50,095
Speaker 12: know it's going dusk and just where they head for

1812
01:44:50,255 --> 01:44:53,775
Speaker 12: light apparently and drive your nuts. In the morning, they're

1813
01:44:53,775 --> 01:44:58,055
Speaker 12: piled up again the again your doors or the window

1814
01:44:58,175 --> 01:44:59,895
Speaker 12: sills and the sort of stuff.

1815
01:45:02,095 --> 01:45:04,735
Speaker 5: With them. Now, can you describe them? First of all?

1816
01:45:04,815 --> 01:45:05,055
Speaker 4: Ian?

1817
01:45:06,375 --> 01:45:09,735
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're little bugs maybe three quarters of an inch long.

1818
01:45:10,135 --> 01:45:15,415
Speaker 12: They fly, yeah, and they have got hard backs. When

1819
01:45:15,455 --> 01:45:16,975
Speaker 12: you stand on them, they crunch.

1820
01:45:17,535 --> 01:45:18,695
Speaker 5: That's right. Color.

1821
01:45:19,935 --> 01:45:21,135
Speaker 12: They are a brownie color.

1822
01:45:21,775 --> 01:45:24,775
Speaker 14: Okay.

1823
01:45:24,895 --> 01:45:27,735
Speaker 12: I've found my computer for them, and they do call

1824
01:45:27,815 --> 01:45:29,295
Speaker 12: them Christmas folks there too.

1825
01:45:30,615 --> 01:45:33,135
Speaker 5: In where in Australia.

1826
01:45:33,695 --> 01:45:36,375
Speaker 12: No, in New Zealand and the coramandle here.

1827
01:45:36,495 --> 01:45:38,295
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but yeah, okay.

1828
01:45:39,415 --> 01:45:42,095
Speaker 18: The problem is there are Christmas bugs in Australia and

1829
01:45:42,095 --> 01:45:45,615
Speaker 18: what you might have here is that doesn't matter. The

1830
01:45:45,695 --> 01:45:49,175
Speaker 18: ones that I hear, the smaller ones are the beatles

1831
01:45:49,175 --> 01:45:53,815
Speaker 18: that are actually flying indeed late late spring and early summer,

1832
01:45:54,215 --> 01:45:56,895
Speaker 18: and they actually eat the leaves of your plants, your

1833
01:45:56,935 --> 01:46:01,375
Speaker 18: trees quite often fruit trees, right right, Have you seen that?

1834
01:46:01,415 --> 01:46:02,655
Speaker 5: Have you seen holes in leaves?

1835
01:46:02,695 --> 01:46:07,135
Speaker 12: Now? Now, I've just seen holes in poker trees around here,

1836
01:46:07,175 --> 01:46:09,735
Speaker 12: But they're big. I think they're bigger than the beetle

1837
01:46:09,735 --> 01:46:10,935
Speaker 12: that eat.

1838
01:46:13,535 --> 01:46:16,495
Speaker 5: The thing with these these creatures is the brown ones.

1839
01:46:17,975 --> 01:46:21,335
Speaker 18: Is the fact that they basically eat foliage, which in

1840
01:46:21,375 --> 01:46:23,935
Speaker 18: itself is not a big deal, to be quite honest,

1841
01:46:23,935 --> 01:46:28,735
Speaker 18: because most plants will replace the eaten foliage by getting

1842
01:46:28,775 --> 01:46:32,735
Speaker 18: new leaves created, if you like. The second thing is

1843
01:46:32,775 --> 01:46:36,175
Speaker 18: that when they finally have eaten their foliage, they lay

1844
01:46:36,215 --> 01:46:39,295
Speaker 18: their eggs right down in the ground because it's.

1845
01:46:39,135 --> 01:46:43,735
Speaker 5: Their babies that eat the roots of the plants as well.

1846
01:46:44,655 --> 01:46:48,615
Speaker 18: And the problem is it is really hard to predict

1847
01:46:48,695 --> 01:46:52,775
Speaker 18: when they strike, where they strike, what night they come, where,

1848
01:46:52,895 --> 01:46:53,575
Speaker 18: et cetera.

1849
01:46:53,695 --> 01:46:56,295
Speaker 5: They are attracted to lights, I must say, but.

1850
01:46:56,375 --> 01:46:59,615
Speaker 18: It's really difficult to actually keep them under control in

1851
01:46:59,655 --> 01:47:02,695
Speaker 18: this case. The best thing is that I've noticed here

1852
01:47:02,775 --> 01:47:04,975
Speaker 18: is that I've got some magpies and I've got all

1853
01:47:05,015 --> 01:47:07,535
Speaker 18: sorts of other creatures that get them in the evening.

1854
01:47:07,655 --> 01:47:10,455
Speaker 18: Especially owls find them in the old droppings as well.

1855
01:47:11,055 --> 01:47:13,335
Speaker 18: They come and pick them up at night and they

1856
01:47:13,335 --> 01:47:15,855
Speaker 18: eat them basically as they can see them in the

1857
01:47:15,855 --> 01:47:17,575
Speaker 18: middle of the night, just like that.

1858
01:47:18,775 --> 01:47:22,175
Speaker 12: Thanks for that, we do have like millions of them

1859
01:47:22,215 --> 01:47:24,975
Speaker 12: that come and the vacuuming them up is about the

1860
01:47:25,015 --> 01:47:27,295
Speaker 12: only way to get rid of them. That's probably the

1861
01:47:27,375 --> 01:47:29,895
Speaker 12: right plastic bag because of the throm and the rubbish

1862
01:47:29,895 --> 01:47:31,295
Speaker 12: spin they'll get going again.

1863
01:47:31,935 --> 01:47:32,615
Speaker 5: Yeah that's right.

1864
01:47:33,175 --> 01:47:35,335
Speaker 18: Or in this case, put them in a container and

1865
01:47:35,415 --> 01:47:39,015
Speaker 18: chuck them in the freezer for a while. Uh huh, Yeah,

1866
01:47:39,095 --> 01:47:39,975
Speaker 18: that's the only way.

1867
01:47:39,855 --> 01:47:40,095
Speaker 9: To do it.

1868
01:47:41,415 --> 01:47:45,375
Speaker 12: Okay, Well they will go eventually, but they're a bit

1869
01:47:45,415 --> 01:47:47,255
Speaker 12: of a nuisance at the moment, and I think a

1870
01:47:47,335 --> 01:47:49,335
Speaker 12: lot of the people that live host the sea are

1871
01:47:49,375 --> 01:47:50,255
Speaker 12: afflicted by them.

1872
01:47:50,935 --> 01:47:51,175
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1873
01:47:51,455 --> 01:47:55,175
Speaker 18: Yeah, I don't think that their impact on your tree,

1874
01:47:55,295 --> 01:47:58,495
Speaker 18: shrubs and plants is that great. Yes, I know they

1875
01:47:58,655 --> 01:48:02,335
Speaker 18: create holes and people get really really upset about the holes.

1876
01:48:02,615 --> 01:48:05,335
Speaker 18: But the interesting thing is, as I said before, that

1877
01:48:05,575 --> 01:48:09,775
Speaker 18: holes are being replaced by new leaves by the plant. Basically,

1878
01:48:09,895 --> 01:48:13,775
Speaker 18: it's a it's a system of repairing the tree, and

1879
01:48:13,895 --> 01:48:15,575
Speaker 18: it's what they do, so it's not a big deal.

1880
01:48:16,695 --> 01:48:19,575
Speaker 12: We have a lot of bush around us and we're

1881
01:48:19,615 --> 01:48:23,415
Speaker 12: not concerned about what it does to the bush because

1882
01:48:23,495 --> 01:48:25,815
Speaker 12: you can't see any difference. But it's just that they

1883
01:48:25,975 --> 01:48:31,055
Speaker 12: pile up in heaps around your windows and pens and

1884
01:48:31,135 --> 01:48:33,895
Speaker 12: whatever around your house, and there are a hell of

1885
01:48:33,975 --> 01:48:36,135
Speaker 12: a thing to get rid of or to clean up

1886
01:48:36,255 --> 01:48:39,215
Speaker 12: every day. Every day you've got to do vacuuming outside

1887
01:48:39,295 --> 01:48:42,535
Speaker 12: on decks and areas like that that are exposed to

1888
01:48:42,655 --> 01:48:47,055
Speaker 12: the light at night. Open for God to help you.

1889
01:48:47,655 --> 01:48:48,815
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember, I remember.

1890
01:48:50,375 --> 01:48:52,215
Speaker 18: We had them a lot in Tity Rangy and in

1891
01:48:52,415 --> 01:48:54,495
Speaker 18: in meadow Bank where we used to live. And to

1892
01:48:54,575 --> 01:48:58,055
Speaker 18: be quite honest, the original common name is bronze beetle,

1893
01:48:58,335 --> 01:48:59,575
Speaker 18: the bronze beetle.

1894
01:49:00,575 --> 01:49:05,895
Speaker 5: Bron there you are, Thank you for that, welcome.

1895
01:49:05,815 --> 01:49:10,015
Speaker 2: Thank you very very much. Hey quick texture, someone's building

1896
01:49:10,015 --> 01:49:13,575
Speaker 2: a r box. Funnily enough, do we put ventilation holes

1897
01:49:13,615 --> 01:49:15,695
Speaker 2: in the base plus the bark I'm looking forward to

1898
01:49:15,735 --> 01:49:18,415
Speaker 2: watching the owls from robin holes.

1899
01:49:18,735 --> 01:49:21,095
Speaker 18: No, no, no, you don't need ventilation holes because they

1900
01:49:21,215 --> 01:49:24,095
Speaker 18: go in to this. There's always movement of air there. Yeah,

1901
01:49:24,135 --> 01:49:26,095
Speaker 18: don't worry, no, don't worry about it at all.

1902
01:49:26,535 --> 01:49:27,855
Speaker 2: I was going to say, do I need to add

1903
01:49:27,935 --> 01:49:29,335
Speaker 2: like a little dormer or something like that.

1904
01:49:30,695 --> 01:49:31,375
Speaker 5: Now you've got it.

1905
01:49:31,455 --> 01:49:33,455
Speaker 18: No, no, because you need to get their checked by

1906
01:49:33,535 --> 01:49:34,975
Speaker 18: the council every six months.

1907
01:49:39,095 --> 01:49:40,615
Speaker 2: Robert A very good morning to you.

1908
01:49:41,895 --> 01:49:44,295
Speaker 7: Oh, good morning, rude hippie Christmas, and.

1909
01:49:45,975 --> 01:49:48,775
Speaker 5: Yeah, sad to you.

1910
01:49:48,935 --> 01:49:49,095
Speaker 12: Roll.

1911
01:49:50,335 --> 01:49:54,095
Speaker 7: Thank you. Now I hear the major issue with rye grass.

1912
01:49:54,135 --> 01:49:56,095
Speaker 7: I believe that's what it does. It's like it looks

1913
01:49:56,135 --> 01:49:58,015
Speaker 7: like wheat and it's got all those little pistles and

1914
01:49:58,055 --> 01:50:01,015
Speaker 7: it's just like a light yellow color and it's all

1915
01:50:01,095 --> 01:50:05,775
Speaker 7: over my grass. So obviously when I'm o the lawns

1916
01:50:05,775 --> 01:50:10,615
Speaker 7: seen it just free plants all the seeds. Yeah, so

1917
01:50:11,215 --> 01:50:12,095
Speaker 7: how do I get rid of it?

1918
01:50:13,215 --> 01:50:13,415
Speaker 12: Well?

1919
01:50:13,535 --> 01:50:15,695
Speaker 7: Literally got hardly grass list.

1920
01:50:16,015 --> 01:50:20,975
Speaker 18: And that's the point because if you had to see

1921
01:50:21,015 --> 01:50:24,535
Speaker 18: there are there are there are weed killers that only

1922
01:50:24,695 --> 01:50:29,815
Speaker 18: do grass or only doing non grass. But in this case,

1923
01:50:29,855 --> 01:50:33,215
Speaker 18: you've got a grass that is a weed inside your lawn.

1924
01:50:33,695 --> 01:50:36,015
Speaker 18: So you only get rid of the lot and spray

1925
01:50:36,055 --> 01:50:38,775
Speaker 18: a whole lot and start redoing it. But where does

1926
01:50:38,895 --> 01:50:40,935
Speaker 18: it come from? Where does the seed come from?

1927
01:50:41,015 --> 01:50:43,375
Speaker 5: Does this fly in? Does it go in the wind

1928
01:50:44,055 --> 01:50:44,615
Speaker 5: on your feet?

1929
01:50:45,895 --> 01:50:48,975
Speaker 7: You thought there was there was a fiction over the

1930
01:50:49,375 --> 01:50:51,535
Speaker 7: now building on it, but it was covered in it,

1931
01:50:51,735 --> 01:50:54,975
Speaker 7: and it's flying over from from the back neighbor.

1932
01:50:55,655 --> 01:50:58,935
Speaker 5: It's it's it's not that horrific badly grass?

1933
01:50:59,055 --> 01:50:59,215
Speaker 16: Is it?

1934
01:51:01,375 --> 01:51:04,495
Speaker 7: Quite possibly? They I just thought it might be rye grass.

1935
01:51:04,575 --> 01:51:06,455
Speaker 7: I don't know. It's just it's got like a Well,

1936
01:51:06,535 --> 01:51:08,455
Speaker 7: I think I've got both. I've got the ones with

1937
01:51:08,575 --> 01:51:11,375
Speaker 7: the quite big long seeds on it, and then I've

1938
01:51:11,415 --> 01:51:13,615
Speaker 7: got the little fine ones that grow up as well.

1939
01:51:14,615 --> 01:51:16,735
Speaker 7: And the thing is, I've got a fluffy pussy cat

1940
01:51:16,855 --> 01:51:19,695
Speaker 7: and she gets some stuck in a fair and I

1941
01:51:19,735 --> 01:51:22,735
Speaker 7: don't want them to get into a skin because they can't.

1942
01:51:23,175 --> 01:51:27,895
Speaker 7: You have become quite infected in things. So that's the yeah,

1943
01:51:27,935 --> 01:51:29,455
Speaker 7: But I just want to get rid of it anyway

1944
01:51:29,455 --> 01:51:30,735
Speaker 7: because it's just ugly.

1945
01:51:31,695 --> 01:51:33,095
Speaker 5: Is your is your lawn lade?

1946
01:51:35,495 --> 01:51:40,695
Speaker 7: It's I've got a front on the back side that

1947
01:51:42,175 --> 01:51:44,855
Speaker 7: goes around the house. I wouldn't say it's large large.

1948
01:51:45,095 --> 01:51:50,695
Speaker 7: I mean it's probably about five meters I ate at

1949
01:51:50,735 --> 01:51:53,415
Speaker 7: the front, and that the same at the side, and

1950
01:51:53,535 --> 01:51:56,735
Speaker 7: then the same at the back, so the nel shape.

1951
01:51:57,095 --> 01:52:00,935
Speaker 18: Would it be feasible to pull those things out individually

1952
01:52:01,055 --> 01:52:02,215
Speaker 18: and leave your lawn as it is?

1953
01:52:04,015 --> 01:52:04,615
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1954
01:52:04,815 --> 01:52:06,135
Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, I had thought of that.

1955
01:52:06,495 --> 01:52:11,375
Speaker 18: Is might need to get a crew and grandkids. Grandkids

1956
01:52:11,415 --> 01:52:13,855
Speaker 18: are good at that, and especially this down the year

1957
01:52:13,855 --> 01:52:14,735
Speaker 18: when they need some money.

1958
01:52:16,215 --> 01:52:18,655
Speaker 7: Yeah, true, true. I have got a niece n here

1959
01:52:18,695 --> 01:52:19,695
Speaker 7: that I could employ.

1960
01:52:19,855 --> 01:52:23,055
Speaker 5: There you go, that's one. The other thing. And this

1961
01:52:23,215 --> 01:52:25,935
Speaker 5: is something I talked to Francisco about some time ago.

1962
01:52:26,415 --> 01:52:29,375
Speaker 18: Get rid of it, spray everything, and get yourself a

1963
01:52:29,775 --> 01:52:34,655
Speaker 18: wildflower lawn that you don't have to mow, and that

1964
01:52:34,815 --> 01:52:37,575
Speaker 18: will be totally different in terms of looks, and it

1965
01:52:37,615 --> 01:52:42,695
Speaker 18: will give you wildflower seeds, just wildflower seeds, so many

1966
01:52:42,735 --> 01:52:46,375
Speaker 18: different species of plant that grow in that become your lawn,

1967
01:52:46,695 --> 01:52:48,495
Speaker 18: and you can then, if you like, make a little

1968
01:52:49,335 --> 01:52:51,935
Speaker 18: you can mow a little trek through that if you

1969
01:52:52,015 --> 01:52:53,895
Speaker 18: want to go from A to B in your loan

1970
01:52:54,055 --> 01:52:54,975
Speaker 18: for instance.

1971
01:52:54,655 --> 01:52:58,495
Speaker 7: You know, yeah for the washing nine Yeah, okay, So

1972
01:52:58,655 --> 01:53:01,695
Speaker 7: what kind of thing to kill it? Do I use

1973
01:53:02,255 --> 01:53:02,695
Speaker 7: to kill it?

1974
01:53:02,815 --> 01:53:07,055
Speaker 18: Or wolf or anything and any anything things such as

1975
01:53:07,335 --> 01:53:09,735
Speaker 18: round up and a control and all the things that

1976
01:53:09,895 --> 01:53:12,815
Speaker 18: get rid of your of grass, of any grass, and

1977
01:53:13,735 --> 01:53:14,335
Speaker 18: any glass.

1978
01:53:14,335 --> 01:53:15,615
Speaker 7: Sort of get rid of the whole off.

1979
01:53:17,015 --> 01:53:17,975
Speaker 5: Again and.

1980
01:53:19,895 --> 01:53:23,855
Speaker 7: Plant the seeds like it won't because sometimes when I

1981
01:53:24,015 --> 01:53:25,895
Speaker 7: was told, when you use round up or something, you

1982
01:53:26,415 --> 01:53:30,495
Speaker 7: can't plant anything for a few months because it's still

1983
01:53:30,535 --> 01:53:31,575
Speaker 7: in the soil or something.

1984
01:53:31,975 --> 01:53:34,015
Speaker 5: No, it's not that long. You can do that within

1985
01:53:34,055 --> 01:53:35,975
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks, no problem.

1986
01:53:36,135 --> 01:53:40,015
Speaker 7: Okay, a couple of weeks all this yeap very quick

1987
01:53:40,175 --> 01:53:45,575
Speaker 7: a question. Yeah, ye, silver beate, broccoli and collie. So

1988
01:53:45,815 --> 01:53:48,655
Speaker 7: what would I use to fertilize those? Like, do I

1989
01:53:48,775 --> 01:53:51,615
Speaker 7: use salt space of poffish or no?

1990
01:53:51,855 --> 01:53:54,455
Speaker 18: Not necessarily, you can do a general fertilizer like a

1991
01:53:54,575 --> 01:53:56,655
Speaker 18: rose fertilizer or something like that.

1992
01:53:57,055 --> 01:53:57,975
Speaker 5: Very very similar with.

1993
01:53:58,775 --> 01:54:01,815
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, lovely.

1994
01:54:01,655 --> 01:54:05,495
Speaker 2: Okay, all the good luck problem. We're gonna take short

1995
01:54:05,535 --> 01:54:08,095
Speaker 2: break the backs right after the news or straight after

1996
01:54:08,135 --> 01:54:11,575
Speaker 2: the break. Rather, it is basically eight forty five your

1997
01:54:11,655 --> 01:54:14,815
Speaker 2: news talks. We're talking to you about all things gardening

1998
01:54:14,855 --> 01:54:18,255
Speaker 2: and the wonderful world of bug scary. Good morning, Good.

1999
01:54:18,135 --> 01:54:19,495
Speaker 19: Morning, Marue, Good morning, Pete.

2000
01:54:19,975 --> 01:54:20,375
Speaker 7: Hey Rue.

2001
01:54:20,815 --> 01:54:24,615
Speaker 19: I just have a problem with the with chickweed, and

2002
01:54:24,855 --> 01:54:26,935
Speaker 19: I'm down my hands and knees, and of course you've

2003
01:54:26,935 --> 01:54:29,255
Speaker 19: got to keep pulling it out amongst all your flowers

2004
01:54:29,295 --> 01:54:33,255
Speaker 19: and around your bed your garden. Is any think that

2005
01:54:33,375 --> 01:54:35,415
Speaker 19: you can stop it from growing or just a thing

2006
01:54:35,455 --> 01:54:37,655
Speaker 19: that you've got to put up with and just keep

2007
01:54:37,695 --> 01:54:38,295
Speaker 19: pulling it out.

2008
01:54:38,855 --> 01:54:40,175
Speaker 5: The problem, this is the problem.

2009
01:54:40,295 --> 01:54:43,135
Speaker 18: If you start spraying and you've got some desirable plants

2010
01:54:43,175 --> 01:54:45,935
Speaker 18: in between, it's really hard not there the others, isn't it.

2011
01:54:46,815 --> 01:54:48,975
Speaker 19: That's right, Yeah, I know some when I'm pulling it

2012
01:54:49,015 --> 01:54:52,055
Speaker 19: out to be careful, I don't wraps around all the

2013
01:54:52,455 --> 01:54:54,215
Speaker 19: center of the flowers. And you've got to care if

2014
01:54:54,255 --> 01:54:56,415
Speaker 19: you don't wreck the flowers. And so is it just

2015
01:54:56,495 --> 01:54:57,975
Speaker 19: a job you've just got to put up with them

2016
01:54:58,615 --> 01:54:59,935
Speaker 19: and keep pulling it.

2017
01:54:59,975 --> 01:55:02,975
Speaker 18: Out, or is it Would you be able to do

2018
01:55:03,135 --> 01:55:06,215
Speaker 18: the weeding in between yours your good plants?

2019
01:55:07,135 --> 01:55:09,615
Speaker 19: Oh yes, yes, yes, but I know that I was

2020
01:55:09,655 --> 01:55:12,535
Speaker 19: doing it yesterday and it's come up sometime. It comes

2021
01:55:12,615 --> 01:55:14,615
Speaker 19: up through the center them as well. You know you see.

2022
01:55:15,975 --> 01:55:16,175
Speaker 14: Here.

2023
01:55:16,335 --> 01:55:18,295
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's too hard, isn't it.

2024
01:55:18,415 --> 01:55:18,455
Speaker 9: No?

2025
01:55:18,655 --> 01:55:21,495
Speaker 18: Do it by hand, or get yourself a Clark cultivator

2026
01:55:22,015 --> 01:55:24,975
Speaker 18: there you go. Oh you know what if you mentioned

2027
01:55:24,975 --> 01:55:27,095
Speaker 18: the fact that you heard this on the radio, go

2028
01:55:27,255 --> 01:55:30,615
Speaker 18: to the Clark cultivator, you know, on the website, and

2029
01:55:30,735 --> 01:55:32,855
Speaker 18: they'll give you something like thirty three percent off.

2030
01:55:33,015 --> 01:55:35,455
Speaker 5: I've just thought, being Dutch, I might be able to.

2031
01:55:35,495 --> 01:55:35,895
Speaker 7: Tell you that.

2032
01:55:38,335 --> 01:55:38,495
Speaker 6: Much.

2033
01:55:40,855 --> 01:55:44,215
Speaker 19: You have a happy New Year to you made go well.

2034
01:55:45,895 --> 01:55:47,695
Speaker 2: I tell you what with some of the because I've

2035
01:55:47,735 --> 01:55:49,455
Speaker 2: had the same thing, right, these weeds coming up in

2036
01:55:49,495 --> 01:55:51,535
Speaker 2: the garden in between things that I don't want to kill.

2037
01:55:52,575 --> 01:55:56,015
Speaker 2: So in those cases. I've used those little bottle that

2038
01:55:56,135 --> 01:56:01,575
Speaker 2: you can literally brush it on individual plants. It's time consuming,

2039
01:56:01,655 --> 01:56:03,695
Speaker 2: but at least you get it down into the roots.

2040
01:56:03,455 --> 01:56:06,175
Speaker 18: And you know that you're not taking the ones you

2041
01:56:06,335 --> 01:56:08,615
Speaker 18: don't want. Phil, Yeah, you know, I totally agree. But

2042
01:56:08,735 --> 01:56:11,455
Speaker 18: that's a painting job. It's almost like a painting pretty much.

2043
01:56:11,615 --> 01:56:12,055
Speaker 2: Make sure.

2044
01:56:13,375 --> 01:56:15,855
Speaker 5: Shall we take a break and come we'll talk to

2045
01:56:16,215 --> 01:56:16,735
Speaker 5: back in the month.

2046
01:56:17,095 --> 01:56:17,215
Speaker 11: Here.

2047
01:56:17,775 --> 01:56:20,575
Speaker 2: It be a couple of minutes to go, and it

2048
01:56:20,695 --> 01:56:22,775
Speaker 2: is with me, Gail, A very good morning to you.

2049
01:56:24,015 --> 01:56:28,015
Speaker 20: Good morning, Pete and Ruth. I'm very upset. My small

2050
01:56:28,135 --> 01:56:32,895
Speaker 20: flowering peach is covered on peaches, which we love. But

2051
01:56:33,695 --> 01:56:36,855
Speaker 20: the leaves on the end of a few of the

2052
01:56:36,935 --> 01:56:40,655
Speaker 20: branches are terrible. They're sort of brown and dying, and

2053
01:56:40,775 --> 01:56:44,015
Speaker 20: the peaches are affected. Can I spray it with something?

2054
01:56:45,575 --> 01:56:47,175
Speaker 5: You could try? If it's if?

2055
01:56:47,655 --> 01:56:49,935
Speaker 18: Do you think that it's leaf curl Can that be

2056
01:56:50,135 --> 01:56:53,455
Speaker 18: a description of those leaves that become yellowish.

2057
01:56:52,975 --> 01:56:53,775
Speaker 5: Inside the curler?

2058
01:56:53,975 --> 01:56:55,935
Speaker 20: No, No, it's leaf dying.

2059
01:56:57,015 --> 01:57:01,535
Speaker 18: It's leave dying. That's okay, that's not nice. Oh gosh,

2060
01:57:01,735 --> 01:57:03,855
Speaker 18: gollye and different color you said as well.

2061
01:57:04,575 --> 01:57:07,455
Speaker 20: Dark barn and they look just horrible.

2062
01:57:08,055 --> 01:57:12,935
Speaker 18: Oh, cheapest creepers look without really seeing it. I find

2063
01:57:12,935 --> 01:57:15,695
Speaker 18: it really hard to diagnose something without seeing.

2064
01:57:15,455 --> 01:57:16,175
Speaker 4: It, you know what I mean.

2065
01:57:16,895 --> 01:57:18,975
Speaker 5: If it is if it is a fungal disease.

2066
01:57:19,015 --> 01:57:22,215
Speaker 18: If you think it's a fungal disease, get yourself, get

2067
01:57:22,255 --> 01:57:27,855
Speaker 18: yourself something like a material that yates nature's way fungus.

2068
01:57:28,175 --> 01:57:36,055
Speaker 18: Spray at least copper that contains copper and sulfur. Yeah,

2069
01:57:36,535 --> 01:57:41,015
Speaker 18: that's why I mentioned it. You can use just copper,

2070
01:57:41,095 --> 01:57:44,535
Speaker 18: but if you use copper and sulfur, you have a wider.

2071
01:57:44,295 --> 01:57:47,295
Speaker 5: Reach if you like, oh I see, thank you, And

2072
01:57:47,415 --> 01:57:48,095
Speaker 5: the reason is.

2073
01:57:48,135 --> 01:57:51,095
Speaker 18: Then you will stop the spread through this at this moment,

2074
01:57:51,255 --> 01:57:53,255
Speaker 18: still healthy leaves, you know what I mean.

2075
01:57:55,335 --> 01:57:58,735
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's really hard to do that.

2076
01:57:59,135 --> 01:57:59,335
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2077
01:57:59,375 --> 01:58:01,615
Speaker 5: I hope that's going to work for you. Girl. It's

2078
01:58:01,775 --> 01:58:03,895
Speaker 5: it's a pain in the bum sometimes these things. But

2079
01:58:04,015 --> 01:58:04,415
Speaker 5: there you go.

2080
01:58:05,255 --> 01:58:08,735
Speaker 20: Yeah, peaches after spraying with Nature's.

2081
01:58:08,495 --> 01:58:09,855
Speaker 5: Right, Yes you can.

2082
01:58:10,095 --> 01:58:12,735
Speaker 18: And that's why I mentioned it, because it's an edible plant.

2083
01:58:12,775 --> 01:58:14,455
Speaker 18: You wash your peaches and you'll be fine.

2084
01:58:15,335 --> 01:58:20,295
Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic, Thank you, Gail, take care, all the best

2085
01:58:20,815 --> 01:58:24,415
Speaker 2: and all the very best to you for New Year,

2086
01:58:24,935 --> 01:58:27,935
Speaker 2: and again my thanks to you for your contribution. And

2087
01:58:28,015 --> 01:58:32,335
Speaker 2: I think that people I don't know underestimate the impact

2088
01:58:32,415 --> 01:58:36,375
Speaker 2: that you have in terms of sort of raising awareness

2089
01:58:36,655 --> 01:58:41,255
Speaker 2: and the education side of what you do. And I

2090
01:58:41,335 --> 01:58:43,695
Speaker 2: would imagine that it must be if you took a

2091
01:58:43,775 --> 01:58:45,935
Speaker 2: moment you probably don't do this, but if you took

2092
01:58:45,975 --> 01:58:48,615
Speaker 2: a moment, stood back and went hey, I was part

2093
01:58:48,655 --> 01:58:53,415
Speaker 2: of this rejuvenation of people restoring wetlands and looking after

2094
01:58:53,495 --> 01:58:55,735
Speaker 2: You know, you'd have to say, you'd have to put

2095
01:58:55,775 --> 01:58:57,335
Speaker 2: yourself on the back, and I bet you don't do it,

2096
01:58:57,455 --> 01:58:58,095
Speaker 2: So I'm going to do it.

2097
01:58:58,615 --> 01:59:00,455
Speaker 18: Oh thank you, that's lovely to say, but you do

2098
01:59:00,615 --> 01:59:02,655
Speaker 18: the same thing. I mean, this is exactly what the

2099
01:59:02,695 --> 01:59:03,855
Speaker 18: world should be about today.

2100
01:59:05,215 --> 01:59:07,855
Speaker 5: This is it. That's why I'm wearing mo wingspan head.

2101
01:59:08,495 --> 01:59:11,215
Speaker 2: See you later, looking forward to hitting down there. Take care,

2102
01:59:11,295 --> 01:59:15,935
Speaker 2: Happy new year to you and Rude will be back

2103
01:59:15,975 --> 01:59:18,735
Speaker 2: with us next year, which, of course next Sunday will

2104
01:59:18,815 --> 01:59:22,135
Speaker 2: be the fifth of January, so looking forward to you

2105
01:59:22,455 --> 01:59:25,175
Speaker 2: joining you again. Then take care for more from the

2106
01:59:25,215 --> 01:59:26,975
Speaker 2: Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp.

2107
01:59:27,175 --> 01:59:29,775
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