1 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:12,013 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News talk S ed B. 2 00:00:12,413 --> 00:00:18,093 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:19,133 --> 00:00:22,293 Speaker 2: Yea, hang another pat now we'll get in. It's very 4 00:00:23,213 --> 00:00:29,333 Speaker 2: it is out, The Test is over. Smooths a beauty 5 00:00:29,453 --> 00:00:31,493 Speaker 2: this out and here you gos. 6 00:00:31,613 --> 00:00:33,613 Speaker 3: Just Delivery has in users to go. 7 00:00:36,253 --> 00:00:39,653 Speaker 1: On the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 8 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:43,813 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks d B at iHeartRadio. 9 00:00:45,773 --> 00:00:48,413 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to on the Front Foot once a year. 10 00:00:48,733 --> 00:00:50,573 Speaker 4: Oh look, we're just a bunch of Kiwi's taking on 11 00:00:50,653 --> 00:00:53,253 Speaker 4: the world and I'm very proud to represent our country. 12 00:00:53,293 --> 00:00:55,613 Speaker 5: And yeah, we know how good India are. 13 00:00:55,653 --> 00:00:57,573 Speaker 4: They got a number of world cast players and for 14 00:00:57,693 --> 00:00:59,893 Speaker 4: us it's just hanging in there, keep doing what Kiwi's do. 15 00:01:00,013 --> 00:01:01,573 Speaker 5: And Ye're very proud of the script today. 16 00:01:02,013 --> 00:01:05,653 Speaker 2: That was Daryl Mitchell laugh in New Zealand. Surprisingly years. 17 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:08,613 Speaker 2: I say surprisingly because not too many people would have 18 00:01:08,653 --> 00:01:11,733 Speaker 2: expected them to win the Third Test and to write 19 00:01:11,893 --> 00:01:16,173 Speaker 2: another chapter of New Zealand cricket distory. Nobody to us 20 00:01:16,293 --> 00:01:19,573 Speaker 2: in there and beats them freezer well New Zealand does 21 00:01:20,133 --> 00:01:21,013 Speaker 2: and in style. 22 00:01:21,573 --> 00:01:23,613 Speaker 3: And also this week Georgia Plummer and. 23 00:01:23,613 --> 00:01:26,373 Speaker 2: The White fans get to celebrate their win in front 24 00:01:26,413 --> 00:01:27,253 Speaker 2: of home fans. 25 00:01:28,053 --> 00:01:28,533 Speaker 3: They've done it. 26 00:01:28,973 --> 00:01:31,573 Speaker 2: And I don't think that New Zealand would have honestly 27 00:01:31,693 --> 00:01:35,653 Speaker 2: believed they would have beaten India freeze it. Yes, they 28 00:01:35,773 --> 00:01:38,053 Speaker 2: might have won a game, but we weren't picking it 29 00:01:38,413 --> 00:01:41,733 Speaker 2: when the series started. And I guess I'm going to 30 00:01:41,773 --> 00:01:44,613 Speaker 2: have to eat a little bit of humble pie because. 31 00:01:45,293 --> 00:01:47,173 Speaker 3: I didn't have the belief that they had. 32 00:01:47,533 --> 00:01:51,933 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't think anybody did, Brian. Really, there was 33 00:01:52,013 --> 00:01:55,893 Speaker 5: nothing there to indicate that New Zealand would whitewash India 34 00:01:56,693 --> 00:02:02,213 Speaker 5: at home. New Zealand also, you know, have never won 35 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:09,733 Speaker 5: US three nil anywhere series anywhere, and that's extraordinary, isn't it. 36 00:02:09,773 --> 00:02:12,293 Speaker 5: They've always had a loss or a draw somewhere in 37 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:16,533 Speaker 5: the three matches. So yeah, well, roit Chama got it 38 00:02:16,613 --> 00:02:20,413 Speaker 5: wrong at Bangaluru and that was their best innings as 39 00:02:20,453 --> 00:02:22,853 Speaker 5: they found out, four hundred and sixty and the second 40 00:02:22,893 --> 00:02:29,013 Speaker 5: and he's had a six attempts, so you know, they said, then, right, 41 00:02:29,093 --> 00:02:34,253 Speaker 5: we'll give them some spinning tracks. And they lost at 42 00:02:34,333 --> 00:02:37,253 Speaker 5: Prune in the black clay, and then they lost in 43 00:02:37,373 --> 00:02:41,813 Speaker 5: Mumbai on the red clay one hundred and twenty one 44 00:02:41,893 --> 00:02:45,613 Speaker 5: all out in the last innings and really with only 45 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:50,693 Speaker 5: one batsman the rest of the top seven they just 46 00:02:50,813 --> 00:02:55,013 Speaker 5: couldn't last more than twenty two balls. Then that was Jadasia. 47 00:02:55,333 --> 00:02:59,133 Speaker 5: If you prepare ragging turners, as I would call the 48 00:02:59,253 --> 00:03:03,453 Speaker 5: last pitch, then the weaker side comes right back into 49 00:03:03,533 --> 00:03:07,813 Speaker 5: the game and differential quality is evened up, and on 50 00:03:08,013 --> 00:03:13,533 Speaker 5: flat tracks, superior sides have time to show the greater skills. 51 00:03:14,373 --> 00:03:17,253 Speaker 5: You know. In that last innings, Wads the Buyers was 52 00:03:17,333 --> 00:03:21,813 Speaker 5: second top scorer for India after punch sixty. Extraordinary, isn't it? 53 00:03:21,973 --> 00:03:22,693 Speaker 5: All those things? 54 00:03:23,493 --> 00:03:25,093 Speaker 3: It wasn't easy keeping wicket, was it. 55 00:03:25,373 --> 00:03:27,373 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't. It wasn't because the ball was going 56 00:03:27,493 --> 00:03:31,053 Speaker 5: up and down and turning from outside off going down legs, 57 00:03:31,133 --> 00:03:34,453 Speaker 5: so you didn't really you'd have to get very quickly. 58 00:03:34,733 --> 00:03:37,293 Speaker 5: But the feet have to go, don't they. The feet 59 00:03:37,373 --> 00:03:39,253 Speaker 5: have to get across there so you get your body 60 00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:42,693 Speaker 5: with it. But look, I think the hardest thing in 61 00:03:42,813 --> 00:03:47,933 Speaker 5: India is to score enough runs. The Indian pitchers can 62 00:03:48,013 --> 00:03:51,573 Speaker 5: be dusty and dry, as we've seen, and they turn 63 00:03:51,693 --> 00:03:55,333 Speaker 5: aggressively with bounce, and over the years their spinners have 64 00:03:55,533 --> 00:03:59,133 Speaker 5: just dominated New Zealand and other teams. You know, right 65 00:03:59,213 --> 00:04:01,853 Speaker 5: from the start when our friendy in Galloway went in 66 00:04:01,933 --> 00:04:07,053 Speaker 5: the fifties fifty five Subash Gupta and Venu Mancad and 67 00:04:07,173 --> 00:04:09,613 Speaker 5: some of our listeners will know the word man Cad, 68 00:04:09,973 --> 00:04:13,533 Speaker 5: that Vinu Mancad was a lovely left arm orthodox player 69 00:04:13,573 --> 00:04:18,013 Speaker 5: and a great batsman. And then Bapu Nabkhani you might 70 00:04:18,053 --> 00:04:21,013 Speaker 5: have heard of it. And then through the seventies that 71 00:04:21,333 --> 00:04:26,373 Speaker 5: wonderful quartet of spinners Bady Chundra, Saka vink At, the 72 00:04:26,493 --> 00:04:30,853 Speaker 5: Ragavin and Prasanna. Then you come to Habajan Singh and 73 00:04:30,933 --> 00:04:38,213 Speaker 5: Annil Cumblai Hiwani remember him, Hurwani render and then and 74 00:04:38,413 --> 00:04:42,413 Speaker 5: Shastri of course, and when we were there, I think 75 00:04:42,493 --> 00:04:44,773 Speaker 5: they had a guy called or it was it prag 76 00:04:44,853 --> 00:04:49,493 Speaker 5: Jaroga or something like that. And then Ashwan Jadeja and 77 00:04:49,613 --> 00:04:52,773 Speaker 5: kill Deep. So there's a very quick list of spinners 78 00:04:52,813 --> 00:04:56,613 Speaker 5: that have really given New Zealand trouble. But why did 79 00:04:56,693 --> 00:05:02,613 Speaker 5: decide do you reckon got enough runs? And I think 80 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:05,933 Speaker 5: we won the toss in the first two on those 81 00:05:06,013 --> 00:05:11,773 Speaker 5: spinning pictures which helped Test two and three, and that 82 00:05:12,013 --> 00:05:15,733 Speaker 5: took Ashwan Jadasia and Washington Sunday. That meant that they 83 00:05:15,773 --> 00:05:20,853 Speaker 5: couldn't bowl last. And secondly, I think New Zealand in 84 00:05:20,933 --> 00:05:23,573 Speaker 5: the first and second Test got leads of three hundred 85 00:05:23,613 --> 00:05:27,253 Speaker 5: and fifty six and one hundred and three, and so 86 00:05:27,413 --> 00:05:30,653 Speaker 5: they got so far ahead in the game. And then 87 00:05:31,653 --> 00:05:36,693 Speaker 5: I thought they planned their batting very well New Zealand, 88 00:05:36,773 --> 00:05:39,853 Speaker 5: and they played a bit differently to all those other 89 00:05:40,013 --> 00:05:44,293 Speaker 5: sides before. I think we defended too much on those 90 00:05:44,373 --> 00:05:48,853 Speaker 5: other tours and tried to use up time in the game. 91 00:05:49,813 --> 00:05:55,533 Speaker 5: But this side they used attacking shotsam Latham pulled at 92 00:05:55,853 --> 00:06:03,053 Speaker 5: firing shots at India, didn't he They they by doing 93 00:06:03,173 --> 00:06:05,973 Speaker 5: that they manipulated the field with the sweep and the 94 00:06:06,013 --> 00:06:09,413 Speaker 5: reverse suitep and they then went down the pitch. And 95 00:06:09,533 --> 00:06:13,773 Speaker 5: I'm thinking of Young occasionally. I'm thinking of Revendra more 96 00:06:13,853 --> 00:06:19,573 Speaker 5: often and Mitchell to the Indian spinners. They didn't compile 97 00:06:19,813 --> 00:06:23,813 Speaker 5: huge individual scores, did they. Revendra got what one hundred 98 00:06:23,813 --> 00:06:29,453 Speaker 5: and the first Test. But together in partnerships they exerted 99 00:06:29,573 --> 00:06:34,093 Speaker 5: pressure with lots of combinations. You know, Conway and that 100 00:06:34,213 --> 00:06:38,013 Speaker 5: first and second Test emerged from a lean trot. You 101 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:42,453 Speaker 5: had Revender in the first two tests, attacking length. You 102 00:06:42,573 --> 00:06:45,373 Speaker 5: had Mitchell and the third Test, you know, fighting that 103 00:06:45,533 --> 00:06:49,733 Speaker 5: heat man. He was dripping from everywhere. The peak of 104 00:06:49,773 --> 00:06:54,133 Speaker 5: his cap even seemed you had to be tripping like 105 00:06:54,213 --> 00:06:57,493 Speaker 5: a tap, you know, it was extraordinary. And then you 106 00:06:57,613 --> 00:07:01,573 Speaker 5: had you had Latham's eighty and the second fourth right 107 00:07:01,653 --> 00:07:06,093 Speaker 5: innings in the second innings in Pune and Blundel and 108 00:07:06,133 --> 00:07:12,853 Speaker 5: Phillips even South, you know, unexpectedly. But through it all Young, 109 00:07:13,413 --> 00:07:17,893 Speaker 5: tell us what you thought of Young and your observations. 110 00:07:18,453 --> 00:07:20,973 Speaker 2: He was a player who came in and has always 111 00:07:21,093 --> 00:07:25,253 Speaker 2: played as a makeshift opener number three, number four for 112 00:07:25,373 --> 00:07:28,693 Speaker 2: somebody who might be injured or unwell, and he came 113 00:07:28,773 --> 00:07:33,813 Speaker 2: in for Kane Williamson and did the Caine Williamson job 114 00:07:33,933 --> 00:07:36,813 Speaker 2: to perfection. You cannot leave him out of the next 115 00:07:36,893 --> 00:07:39,653 Speaker 2: Test team that New Zealand selects, as you can't leave 116 00:07:39,733 --> 00:07:42,333 Speaker 2: Kane Williamson out. And that's going to be an issue 117 00:07:42,733 --> 00:07:45,453 Speaker 2: that the selectors are going to have to deal with 118 00:07:45,733 --> 00:07:49,693 Speaker 2: and it's a question that Gary Stead has probably thought 119 00:07:49,733 --> 00:07:54,493 Speaker 2: about and he justifiably reflects on the personal achievements, selection 120 00:07:54,893 --> 00:07:59,333 Speaker 2: and planning for this tour and he deserved that moment 121 00:07:59,493 --> 00:08:00,973 Speaker 2: to enjoy the result. 122 00:08:01,533 --> 00:08:06,813 Speaker 6: Incredible result, really, I think it'd be not many pundits 123 00:08:06,813 --> 00:08:08,933 Speaker 6: around the world would say that. Yet we'd got in 124 00:08:09,013 --> 00:08:12,573 Speaker 6: there and beat three nil, and probably deep down, I'm 125 00:08:12,573 --> 00:08:15,053 Speaker 6: not sure if we even believe that it was possible 126 00:08:15,133 --> 00:08:17,533 Speaker 6: ourselves to do this, considering it's never been done in 127 00:08:17,973 --> 00:08:22,613 Speaker 6: history before. So it's an incredible achievement by the team. Yeah, 128 00:08:22,893 --> 00:08:26,053 Speaker 6: I'm very, very proud of everyone involved in the way 129 00:08:26,093 --> 00:08:29,533 Speaker 6: that they've gone about their business and playing the matches 130 00:08:29,573 --> 00:08:32,773 Speaker 6: the way they have. You don't need motivation to play 131 00:08:32,853 --> 00:08:37,293 Speaker 6: Test cricket. We're representing our country and every Test is 132 00:08:38,093 --> 00:08:42,733 Speaker 6: guests treated equally in that sense. So look, we came 133 00:08:42,813 --> 00:08:47,053 Speaker 6: off some disappointing results in Sri Lanka the first Test. 134 00:08:47,173 --> 00:08:50,213 Speaker 6: We could have won it, so I know the guys 135 00:08:50,253 --> 00:08:55,453 Speaker 6: were pretty disappointed around that, but yeah, sometimes your stars 136 00:08:55,453 --> 00:08:57,653 Speaker 6: a line as well. I think losing the toss in 137 00:08:58,013 --> 00:09:01,653 Speaker 6: the first Test match definitely helped us. We got to 138 00:09:01,773 --> 00:09:04,853 Speaker 6: jump in the game there and then I think that 139 00:09:05,013 --> 00:09:07,973 Speaker 6: grew confidence in the group and we played very, very 140 00:09:07,973 --> 00:09:12,853 Speaker 6: good after that. And turning conditions like this where certainly 141 00:09:12,933 --> 00:09:15,373 Speaker 6: favors the spinners, then you're always in the game. It 142 00:09:15,493 --> 00:09:20,733 Speaker 6: makes for extremely exciting cricket. Something's always happening, and I 143 00:09:20,813 --> 00:09:24,813 Speaker 6: think we won some key moments throughout the three tests. Yeah. Absolutely, 144 00:09:25,013 --> 00:09:26,653 Speaker 6: And that's a good place to be in as well. 145 00:09:26,773 --> 00:09:29,693 Speaker 5: So I mean it's. 146 00:09:29,573 --> 00:09:32,853 Speaker 6: Always easier to well, it's harder in a way to 147 00:09:33,293 --> 00:09:36,213 Speaker 6: leave people out in this situation if that does happen. 148 00:09:36,293 --> 00:09:39,973 Speaker 6: But look, who knows. We haven't had those selection discussions yet. 149 00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:42,893 Speaker 6: Where I'm going to enjoy the moment here and then 150 00:09:43,013 --> 00:09:45,733 Speaker 6: head to Sri Lanka first before we get home, and 151 00:09:46,093 --> 00:09:50,213 Speaker 6: I guess decide on that test the test team for England. 152 00:09:51,973 --> 00:09:54,693 Speaker 2: There must have been a sense of satisfaction in the 153 00:09:54,773 --> 00:09:57,453 Speaker 2: Gary Stead. He's taken a bit of a pounding in 154 00:09:57,853 --> 00:10:01,333 Speaker 2: the media from various sources. We've been a little bit 155 00:10:01,373 --> 00:10:06,613 Speaker 2: critical at times, but the end result is he's organized 156 00:10:06,653 --> 00:10:09,453 Speaker 2: a plan which the players have carried out. And you 157 00:10:09,573 --> 00:10:12,933 Speaker 2: mentioned that Will Young. You know, Will Young probably would 158 00:10:12,973 --> 00:10:16,013 Speaker 2: have only expected to play one test because Williamson was 159 00:10:16,093 --> 00:10:17,733 Speaker 2: going to be there for two and three. Well he 160 00:10:17,853 --> 00:10:20,573 Speaker 2: wasn't there for two or three. And will Young showed 161 00:10:20,613 --> 00:10:24,813 Speaker 2: the control, the maturity and the kind of innings you 162 00:10:25,013 --> 00:10:30,653 Speaker 2: need in a tight situation. He Mitchell to a lesser extent, 163 00:10:31,093 --> 00:10:34,253 Speaker 2: and of course the ennings you mentioned previously of Latham 164 00:10:34,333 --> 00:10:39,493 Speaker 2: and Conway and Ravendra. All the players did their bit 165 00:10:39,573 --> 00:10:43,053 Speaker 2: and somebody stood up as and when it was needed, 166 00:10:43,173 --> 00:10:45,813 Speaker 2: and I think that was important for this side. There 167 00:10:45,893 --> 00:10:48,933 Speaker 2: was somebody to take responsibility. 168 00:10:49,013 --> 00:10:52,853 Speaker 5: Loads of contributions from different parts of the team, and 169 00:10:53,293 --> 00:10:56,293 Speaker 5: I did Young. I agree with you. I think he's 170 00:10:56,413 --> 00:10:58,733 Speaker 5: kind of got to be selected and that's going to 171 00:10:58,853 --> 00:11:02,213 Speaker 5: provide lots of problems. How do you fit him in 172 00:11:03,453 --> 00:11:08,213 Speaker 5: and who who misses out? So that's something maybe we 173 00:11:08,373 --> 00:11:10,693 Speaker 5: can talk about. I don't know some possibilities, but I 174 00:11:10,893 --> 00:11:16,853 Speaker 5: just thought so unflappable and so composed and thoroughly planned. 175 00:11:17,173 --> 00:11:19,533 Speaker 5: You know, he got a very good balance between his 176 00:11:19,653 --> 00:11:23,493 Speaker 5: defense and his attack. And I think he said when 177 00:11:23,533 --> 00:11:27,533 Speaker 5: he received the Player of the series, not often you 178 00:11:27,613 --> 00:11:29,293 Speaker 5: get a Player of the Series with a top score 179 00:11:29,293 --> 00:11:33,373 Speaker 5: of seventy one, but he was and he thoroughly deserved it. 180 00:11:35,533 --> 00:11:39,533 Speaker 5: But he just he kind of said, I got from 181 00:11:39,613 --> 00:11:43,653 Speaker 5: my defense, then I got confidence that I could attack. 182 00:11:44,933 --> 00:11:49,253 Speaker 5: And I think certainly that's the case. He knew where 183 00:11:49,293 --> 00:11:53,373 Speaker 5: he was going to score behind point if they dropped 184 00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:58,053 Speaker 5: short a drive either side of the stumps he lofted 185 00:11:58,173 --> 00:12:02,613 Speaker 5: down the ground. Then he had some little sweeps that 186 00:12:02,733 --> 00:12:05,813 Speaker 5: he could go into as well. And I just and 187 00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:07,693 Speaker 5: then even when he was in the field, was he 188 00:12:07,773 --> 00:12:10,413 Speaker 5: took up that bad position, didn't he? And he took 189 00:12:10,653 --> 00:12:12,013 Speaker 5: very important catchers there. 190 00:12:13,253 --> 00:12:15,853 Speaker 2: So and that was a hard job too, to be 191 00:12:16,293 --> 00:12:20,013 Speaker 2: in that situation when it's hot, when you're sweating, more 192 00:12:20,133 --> 00:12:23,453 Speaker 2: pressure is going on. Oh, I know. 193 00:12:24,133 --> 00:12:26,853 Speaker 5: And it's just another good example I mean of sport 194 00:12:27,333 --> 00:12:31,933 Speaker 5: doesn't build character, doesn't build it, it reveals it. And 195 00:12:32,053 --> 00:12:35,293 Speaker 5: I think that we've found, in fact, you know, a 196 00:12:35,533 --> 00:12:38,733 Speaker 5: really important young man there, and he's going to be 197 00:12:38,893 --> 00:12:40,813 Speaker 5: very useful for us too. And he's got a full 198 00:12:40,893 --> 00:12:44,693 Speaker 5: time contract, so you know. And if you looked at that, 199 00:12:44,773 --> 00:12:46,933 Speaker 5: if you said to yourself in the first innings of 200 00:12:47,493 --> 00:12:51,053 Speaker 5: how important the game is in Asia India, if you 201 00:12:51,213 --> 00:12:54,573 Speaker 5: totaled up there three first innings efforts, it came to 202 00:12:54,653 --> 00:12:57,693 Speaker 5: four hundred and sixty three. You totaled up in New 203 00:12:57,773 --> 00:13:02,933 Speaker 5: Zealand's three first innings efforts eight hundred and ninety six, 204 00:13:03,853 --> 00:13:07,693 Speaker 5: nearly nine hundred. And that's what built those leads that 205 00:13:07,813 --> 00:13:11,733 Speaker 5: we were taking about, you know. And they kept then 206 00:13:11,773 --> 00:13:16,893 Speaker 5: another man, a Jazz Patel, kept that lead in the 207 00:13:17,013 --> 00:13:19,333 Speaker 5: third Test to just twenty eight and it was nearly 208 00:13:19,533 --> 00:13:22,613 Speaker 5: enough anyway, wasn't it. It was looking a pretty handy 209 00:13:22,693 --> 00:13:25,133 Speaker 5: lead at one point. What do you think of the 210 00:13:26,053 --> 00:13:30,213 Speaker 5: Indian side? What did you make of them, especially in 211 00:13:30,293 --> 00:13:33,093 Speaker 5: the third Test, because we've spoken about the first two tests. 212 00:13:33,773 --> 00:13:36,933 Speaker 2: I don't think that they were mentally in it to 213 00:13:37,053 --> 00:13:39,053 Speaker 2: some extent. I mean, would you like to be a 214 00:13:39,133 --> 00:13:41,693 Speaker 2: fly on the wall of their selectors and in their 215 00:13:41,773 --> 00:13:45,853 Speaker 2: team huddle now as they prepare to go to Australia. 216 00:13:46,573 --> 00:13:50,653 Speaker 2: I think they underestimated New Zealand. They took them too lightly. 217 00:13:51,413 --> 00:13:55,013 Speaker 2: They believed that they had the spin bowlers that could 218 00:13:55,133 --> 00:13:58,133 Speaker 2: deal with what New Zealand had. Rather well, they didn't, 219 00:13:58,213 --> 00:14:01,493 Speaker 2: did they. Washington Sunday may well be the new man. 220 00:14:02,613 --> 00:14:05,373 Speaker 2: Ashvind didn't look anywhere near the threat that he has 221 00:14:05,453 --> 00:14:08,893 Speaker 2: in the past. Jadasia does what today's allys done. He 222 00:14:09,053 --> 00:14:12,533 Speaker 2: just keeps picking off and he will probably play an 223 00:14:12,573 --> 00:14:14,733 Speaker 2: all round us role. But they're going to have to 224 00:14:14,813 --> 00:14:18,253 Speaker 2: look at some dramatic changes, aren't they, not only in 225 00:14:18,373 --> 00:14:21,253 Speaker 2: the teams that they pick, but how they approach playing 226 00:14:21,333 --> 00:14:24,133 Speaker 2: the game, because you know they have got big issues 227 00:14:24,213 --> 00:14:25,973 Speaker 2: that you know we would have to face if we 228 00:14:26,013 --> 00:14:28,293 Speaker 2: would be beaten three nil at home, wouldn't we? Oh? 229 00:14:28,373 --> 00:14:33,853 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely? And I think you know they're batting. I thought, 230 00:14:34,573 --> 00:14:37,413 Speaker 5: you know, if you're going they what were they chasing 231 00:14:37,453 --> 00:14:39,373 Speaker 5: in the last of these one hundred and fifty something 232 00:14:39,533 --> 00:14:43,493 Speaker 5: like that. And if you're going to attack a small 233 00:14:43,613 --> 00:14:46,853 Speaker 5: target and go out and be very aggressive, which is 234 00:14:46,933 --> 00:14:49,413 Speaker 5: what they tried to do, you better be good at it, 235 00:14:49,893 --> 00:14:52,493 Speaker 5: because whatever you do, you still got to get to 236 00:14:52,533 --> 00:14:55,413 Speaker 5: one hundred and forty seven. You know, you still got 237 00:14:55,533 --> 00:14:59,413 Speaker 5: to get there. Hunt was the only one who did really, 238 00:14:59,493 --> 00:15:03,213 Speaker 5: and no one else, it seemed to me, was capable. 239 00:15:03,253 --> 00:15:07,773 Speaker 5: The younger generation, Jase wild Gill and I think sufferers. 240 00:15:07,853 --> 00:15:11,573 Speaker 5: He's only come in. They're not defensive players, really, are they. 241 00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:18,333 Speaker 5: They not like Dravard, not like Pajara, not like Rahana, 242 00:15:18,533 --> 00:15:22,173 Speaker 5: not like those players of the past. There was really 243 00:15:22,253 --> 00:15:26,053 Speaker 5: only two players who could actually save them in that game, 244 00:15:26,133 --> 00:15:31,813 Speaker 5: and that was Rowatt, Sharma and Coolie. They were raised 245 00:15:31,893 --> 00:15:35,213 Speaker 5: in the twenty eleven twelve, that kind of era. The era. 246 00:15:36,293 --> 00:15:40,253 Speaker 5: Both were in horrid form and both were low on confidence. 247 00:15:40,293 --> 00:15:42,893 Speaker 5: You could see that, and it might have been different 248 00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:46,893 Speaker 5: if they were perhaps, you know, a little bit better 249 00:15:47,013 --> 00:15:49,893 Speaker 5: in form. But the next generation are kind of learning 250 00:15:49,973 --> 00:15:53,013 Speaker 5: on the job. It seems to me, it does seem 251 00:15:53,933 --> 00:15:56,133 Speaker 5: that with batsman at the moment. If you get beaten 252 00:15:56,253 --> 00:15:59,413 Speaker 5: once or twice like Rowett was in that innings, he 253 00:15:59,493 --> 00:16:02,893 Speaker 5: got LBW nearly once or twice, and then he played 254 00:16:02,933 --> 00:16:07,293 Speaker 5: that hook shot. You know, and the default is to 255 00:16:07,413 --> 00:16:10,813 Speaker 5: go into attack, isn't it? And gone are the days 256 00:16:10,973 --> 00:16:14,813 Speaker 5: when you dig in or survive that period of play. 257 00:16:15,733 --> 00:16:20,613 Speaker 5: And if you don't trust your technique to diffuse the pressure, 258 00:16:20,733 --> 00:16:24,933 Speaker 5: then you know you hit out. Holy didn't row It did. 259 00:16:25,693 --> 00:16:31,013 Speaker 5: Holly made a defensive era, so he he a defensive air. 260 00:16:31,133 --> 00:16:33,933 Speaker 5: So he got so low, when he got so far forward, 261 00:16:34,613 --> 00:16:38,733 Speaker 5: his hands and his gloves and his shoulder of his 262 00:16:38,853 --> 00:16:41,773 Speaker 5: bat was available to the ball. So you hear a 263 00:16:41,893 --> 00:16:48,813 Speaker 5: lot also about when it's tough and the ball's turning, 264 00:16:49,533 --> 00:16:52,053 Speaker 5: there's a ball with your name on it. You hear that, 265 00:16:52,253 --> 00:16:53,053 Speaker 5: don't you a lot? 266 00:16:53,933 --> 00:16:54,093 Speaker 2: Oh? 267 00:16:54,213 --> 00:16:54,413 Speaker 4: Yeah? 268 00:16:54,653 --> 00:16:58,133 Speaker 5: And I tried. I tried both methods to hit out 269 00:16:58,693 --> 00:17:02,533 Speaker 5: and to defend. And I actually concluded if you have 270 00:17:02,693 --> 00:17:08,733 Speaker 5: a defense, your chances are better and minimalize. You know, 271 00:17:08,893 --> 00:17:12,213 Speaker 5: you're not to get out if you've practiced your You 272 00:17:12,373 --> 00:17:14,533 Speaker 5: see the line of the ball, you see the Lynx. 273 00:17:15,533 --> 00:17:19,013 Speaker 5: I looked up when Coley last played a first class 274 00:17:19,093 --> 00:17:22,573 Speaker 5: match for Ranjie Trophy. Wadds have a guess when it 275 00:17:22,773 --> 00:17:30,933 Speaker 5: was two years ago? No? Twenty and twelve? Twelve years ago? 276 00:17:32,133 --> 00:17:38,133 Speaker 5: I sure yep, before ten Dulka retired. Extraordinary, isn't it? 277 00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:42,253 Speaker 5: These these players are playing mainly white ball, aren't they? 278 00:17:43,693 --> 00:17:47,533 Speaker 5: What is the white Yeah? What does the white bull do? 279 00:17:47,853 --> 00:17:50,013 Speaker 5: It doesn't swing much, It doesn't seem for more than 280 00:17:50,133 --> 00:17:56,933 Speaker 5: five overs. The pictures don't deteriorate. Yeah, that don't to 281 00:17:57,053 --> 00:18:00,133 Speaker 5: tear out, so it doesn't turn much and it's all 282 00:18:00,173 --> 00:18:04,053 Speaker 5: about runs. So what happens? Then you get harder hands, 283 00:18:05,053 --> 00:18:08,253 Speaker 5: you get faster batspeed, You try and hit boundaries, don't you. 284 00:18:08,413 --> 00:18:11,933 Speaker 5: The red ball is not like that. Swings more, turns more, 285 00:18:12,253 --> 00:18:14,813 Speaker 5: keeps the shine on it more, and if you don't 286 00:18:14,853 --> 00:18:18,173 Speaker 5: get closer to it, it's risky. And if you push 287 00:18:18,213 --> 00:18:21,773 Speaker 5: out at the ball you get too low. You know 288 00:18:22,653 --> 00:18:24,813 Speaker 5: you have trouble if you don't cover your stumps. So 289 00:18:25,013 --> 00:18:29,693 Speaker 5: that's what I saw from India time and time again. 290 00:18:30,573 --> 00:18:31,773 Speaker 5: They don't play spin well. 291 00:18:32,733 --> 00:18:36,213 Speaker 2: And you made the other points earlier that I think 292 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:41,293 Speaker 2: was also an Indian failing and I'm gonna bowl. 293 00:18:41,173 --> 00:18:43,853 Speaker 5: My bouncer on the front foot and here he goes 294 00:18:45,533 --> 00:18:46,133 Speaker 5: the bouncer. 295 00:18:46,853 --> 00:18:50,973 Speaker 2: Indian pitchers are an insult to Test cricket, and you 296 00:18:51,133 --> 00:18:54,533 Speaker 2: made that point to me. I just say that what 297 00:18:54,973 --> 00:18:58,453 Speaker 2: they played on for those Test matches were a disgrace 298 00:18:58,533 --> 00:19:01,213 Speaker 2: to the game. You don't expect that tennis players to 299 00:19:01,253 --> 00:19:05,493 Speaker 2: play the US Open on substandard surfaces. They would call 300 00:19:05,573 --> 00:19:08,733 Speaker 2: it off in a big hurry. You don't have horse races, 301 00:19:08,813 --> 00:19:14,133 Speaker 2: big horse races on substandard fields, ovals or pitches or 302 00:19:14,173 --> 00:19:19,053 Speaker 2: whatever they call the race course, because that detracts from 303 00:19:19,413 --> 00:19:21,573 Speaker 2: the quality of what you get. And it goes to 304 00:19:21,693 --> 00:19:24,773 Speaker 2: rugby and it goes to other sports as well. You've 305 00:19:24,893 --> 00:19:29,733 Speaker 2: got to give quality conditions to bring out the best 306 00:19:29,893 --> 00:19:33,093 Speaker 2: in players. And I'm afraid the Indians have paid the 307 00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:36,853 Speaker 2: price for their own ineptitude when it comes to preparing pitches. 308 00:19:37,213 --> 00:19:40,373 Speaker 2: They think we can play in our conditions where your 309 00:19:40,453 --> 00:19:44,053 Speaker 2: conditions are Playing in India, Playing in your own country 310 00:19:44,213 --> 00:19:48,533 Speaker 2: doesn't give you the right to manipulate what the pitch 311 00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:51,853 Speaker 2: is made of, or how it's prepared, or what's done. 312 00:19:52,213 --> 00:19:54,893 Speaker 2: Even in Pakistan where you play on the same strip. 313 00:19:55,373 --> 00:19:59,213 Speaker 2: I think that that is another disgrace, and that's my bouncer. 314 00:19:59,853 --> 00:20:00,893 Speaker 2: Let them come and get me. 315 00:20:01,373 --> 00:20:04,333 Speaker 5: I'll duck under it once I'm bouldered. 316 00:20:05,733 --> 00:20:08,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a few moments just to reflect on 317 00:20:09,173 --> 00:20:11,653 Speaker 2: who we think should be playing. To my mind, the 318 00:20:11,773 --> 00:20:17,773 Speaker 2: top six is pretty much straightforward. Latham, Conway, Young, Ravendra, 319 00:20:18,053 --> 00:20:23,013 Speaker 2: Williamson and Mitchell. Whatever order you want there, probably you 320 00:20:23,053 --> 00:20:27,213 Speaker 2: would have a wiki keeper at seven and then you've 321 00:20:27,213 --> 00:20:28,573 Speaker 2: got troll places to fill. 322 00:20:28,693 --> 00:20:29,613 Speaker 3: Who do we feel. 323 00:20:29,653 --> 00:20:33,053 Speaker 5: Unless you're going to pick Phillips as a spinner as 324 00:20:33,093 --> 00:20:35,173 Speaker 5: the main spinner in New Zealand, have to decide that 325 00:20:35,773 --> 00:20:38,293 Speaker 5: our first test is in christ Church, where we generally 326 00:20:38,733 --> 00:20:45,293 Speaker 5: omitted spinners. Suntner will then find the surface. I think 327 00:20:45,373 --> 00:20:47,693 Speaker 5: down there a little harder to get what he had 328 00:20:47,813 --> 00:20:50,333 Speaker 5: at Pune if I was going to play a spinner, 329 00:20:50,453 --> 00:20:54,773 Speaker 5: you know, I think Bracewell is certainly a bigger turner 330 00:20:54,853 --> 00:20:57,813 Speaker 5: than the other two, and he offers other things as well. 331 00:20:58,373 --> 00:21:00,773 Speaker 5: But it could easily go to a seema Wadds. I 332 00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:04,133 Speaker 5: don't know who that seema would be. It might be Duffy, 333 00:21:05,013 --> 00:21:07,613 Speaker 5: but O'Rourke and Henry for two, I think they're the 334 00:21:07,653 --> 00:21:11,373 Speaker 5: first two. Now they've established there their positions, haven't they, 335 00:21:12,053 --> 00:21:17,493 Speaker 5: And then I suppose Saldy being there. I don't see 336 00:21:17,533 --> 00:21:22,173 Speaker 5: anybody else that's able at the moment, do you. I 337 00:21:22,253 --> 00:21:25,533 Speaker 5: don't think Nathan Smiths are ready yet to do that 338 00:21:25,733 --> 00:21:29,413 Speaker 5: sort of thing, so that those are the names I 339 00:21:29,493 --> 00:21:31,813 Speaker 5: would think that they're going to have to consider. 340 00:21:32,693 --> 00:21:35,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, they need a batting all rounder of some kind, 341 00:21:35,453 --> 00:21:39,013 Speaker 2: but they don't really have one that they can choose. 342 00:21:39,053 --> 00:21:41,413 Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about Nathan Smith, well, he's just 343 00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:45,253 Speaker 2: getting into the international red he's off playing in the 344 00:21:45,333 --> 00:21:48,293 Speaker 2: short form cricket in Sri Lanka and he might be 345 00:21:48,373 --> 00:21:54,653 Speaker 2: the man in time, but really it gets back to Bracewell, 346 00:21:55,213 --> 00:21:59,973 Speaker 2: Phillips or Center and you've only got room for one 347 00:22:00,013 --> 00:22:00,533 Speaker 2: of them, haven't you. 348 00:22:01,653 --> 00:22:05,773 Speaker 5: That's right, That's right. So that'll be the choices they 349 00:22:05,853 --> 00:22:07,893 Speaker 5: have to make. If they want a spinner, and if 350 00:22:07,933 --> 00:22:10,533 Speaker 5: they want four seemers and they want to you know, 351 00:22:10,813 --> 00:22:14,533 Speaker 5: they do the usual thing that they do in christ Church, 352 00:22:14,973 --> 00:22:18,733 Speaker 5: then I guess you'd have Soudy and Duffy with Henry 353 00:22:18,773 --> 00:22:19,333 Speaker 5: and O'Rourke. 354 00:22:19,933 --> 00:22:22,333 Speaker 2: One of the interesting things we don't have time to 355 00:22:22,413 --> 00:22:26,173 Speaker 2: go through the statistics of at the moment, but the 356 00:22:26,453 --> 00:22:31,173 Speaker 2: likelihood that India could miss out on the World Test 357 00:22:31,293 --> 00:22:34,413 Speaker 2: Championship Final. We'll have a look at the stats and 358 00:22:34,453 --> 00:22:39,213 Speaker 2: perhaps talk about them on a future occasion, because you know, 359 00:22:39,413 --> 00:22:44,893 Speaker 2: they've got Test matches in Australia and one article I 360 00:22:45,293 --> 00:22:48,653 Speaker 2: read said they've got to beat Australia for nil to 361 00:22:48,893 --> 00:22:52,453 Speaker 2: ensure their place in the World Test Championship Final. Hard 362 00:22:52,493 --> 00:22:54,653 Speaker 2: to see that against this Australian side, doesn't it. 363 00:22:55,613 --> 00:23:00,613 Speaker 5: Because I think that's right to odds. They did have 364 00:23:00,733 --> 00:23:04,733 Speaker 5: a few extra points before they started playing against New Zealand, 365 00:23:04,773 --> 00:23:09,373 Speaker 5: and so they could absorb perhaps a Test loss, but 366 00:23:09,493 --> 00:23:14,413 Speaker 5: they could certainly not if they lost all three, and 367 00:23:14,573 --> 00:23:18,173 Speaker 5: so that has put a tremendous amount of pressure onto 368 00:23:18,253 --> 00:23:23,373 Speaker 5: that Indian side going over to Australia. And it's just 369 00:23:23,853 --> 00:23:28,373 Speaker 5: as difficult to see them winning four nil over in 370 00:23:28,413 --> 00:23:33,893 Speaker 5: Australians to see New Zealan, you know, winning three nil 371 00:23:33,973 --> 00:23:34,613 Speaker 5: over in India. 372 00:23:35,413 --> 00:23:35,613 Speaker 3: Yep. 373 00:23:35,813 --> 00:23:38,533 Speaker 2: Well we're going to be watching those with close attention 374 00:23:38,813 --> 00:23:42,053 Speaker 2: on what India and Australia doing. Of course, South Africa 375 00:23:42,173 --> 00:23:44,933 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to push their way through as well, 376 00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:46,053 Speaker 2: and New Zealand. 377 00:23:45,773 --> 00:23:46,493 Speaker 3: Has freed England. 378 00:23:46,573 --> 00:23:48,373 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to pick a winner of that 379 00:23:48,493 --> 00:23:52,213 Speaker 2: series just yet, I'm going to show that I've got 380 00:23:52,293 --> 00:23:55,773 Speaker 2: a touch of cowardice when it comes to backing New 381 00:23:55,853 --> 00:24:00,093 Speaker 2: Zealand at the moment. I'll sharpen up as things move 382 00:24:00,173 --> 00:24:01,733 Speaker 2: on in that series, winning. 383 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:05,853 Speaker 5: Arrive Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot. 384 00:24:06,053 --> 00:24:08,693 Speaker 2: I had the chance to sit under the scoreboard at 385 00:24:08,733 --> 00:24:10,733 Speaker 2: the south end of the Basin Reserve today as the 386 00:24:10,773 --> 00:24:14,573 Speaker 2: White Fans took the World T twenty trophy on a 387 00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:17,893 Speaker 2: tour of the country. They went through Wellington celebrating their 388 00:24:17,973 --> 00:24:22,973 Speaker 2: success and one of the five Tawer College former pupils, 389 00:24:23,653 --> 00:24:28,813 Speaker 2: Georgia Plimmer, was there enjoying the moment. Remarkable that five 390 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:32,533 Speaker 2: of the one team of the past all went to 391 00:24:32,613 --> 00:24:36,213 Speaker 2: one school, and Plimmer, as one of them, was proud 392 00:24:36,493 --> 00:24:38,253 Speaker 2: of what her old school had achieved. 393 00:24:38,853 --> 00:24:39,053 Speaker 7: Yeah. 394 00:24:39,173 --> 00:24:41,733 Speaker 4: I think we've always talked about how many Tawer College 395 00:24:41,773 --> 00:24:43,853 Speaker 4: girls is, but I think it's now even more been 396 00:24:44,013 --> 00:24:46,293 Speaker 4: emphasized about how many are in the White Fans and 397 00:24:46,813 --> 00:24:49,733 Speaker 4: obviously a lot of them made a big contribution to 398 00:24:49,853 --> 00:24:52,213 Speaker 4: this World Cup, so yeah, it's pretty crazy to be. 399 00:24:52,253 --> 00:24:56,053 Speaker 2: Fair, but just reflecting them that why was cricket so strong? 400 00:24:56,293 --> 00:24:58,493 Speaker 2: You had plenty of support to do at Tower College 401 00:24:58,533 --> 00:24:59,093 Speaker 2: when you were playing. 402 00:24:59,333 --> 00:25:01,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think it's been able to see for 403 00:25:01,573 --> 00:25:04,253 Speaker 4: me personally, be able to see the likes of Sophie 404 00:25:04,293 --> 00:25:06,893 Speaker 4: Million Jis already do it before me and come from 405 00:25:06,933 --> 00:25:11,093 Speaker 4: the same sort of area. And obviously Gisimeli's dad, Robbie Kerr, 406 00:25:11,173 --> 00:25:14,293 Speaker 4: is such a big cricketer and the cricket and Wellington 407 00:25:14,293 --> 00:25:16,813 Speaker 4: cricket especially, and I think he was my first coach 408 00:25:16,853 --> 00:25:18,693 Speaker 4: and he sort of got me into the Tile College 409 00:25:18,733 --> 00:25:21,173 Speaker 4: first eleven and sort of saw there was something and 410 00:25:21,533 --> 00:25:23,373 Speaker 4: was able to push me on into the blaze. So yeah, 411 00:25:23,373 --> 00:25:26,053 Speaker 4: I definitely think having that small town connection sort of 412 00:25:26,093 --> 00:25:28,093 Speaker 4: helped us all kind of get into our careers. 413 00:25:28,773 --> 00:25:31,333 Speaker 2: Celebration at the railway station in Wellington this morning you 414 00:25:31,453 --> 00:25:34,213 Speaker 2: met all around jan there the cup, the trophies here. 415 00:25:34,893 --> 00:25:36,253 Speaker 2: Is it sinking in now for him? 416 00:25:36,613 --> 00:25:37,453 Speaker 7: Yes, slowly is. 417 00:25:37,533 --> 00:25:40,293 Speaker 4: I think having that series against India sort of stopped 418 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:43,093 Speaker 4: the celebrations a little bit, but we knew how important 419 00:25:43,133 --> 00:25:44,773 Speaker 4: that was. And now to come home and see the 420 00:25:44,813 --> 00:25:47,213 Speaker 4: support and obviously talk to some of the fans and 421 00:25:47,293 --> 00:25:49,493 Speaker 4: how much it means to them and their kids. I 422 00:25:49,533 --> 00:25:52,173 Speaker 4: think that's been amazing and watching some of the videos 423 00:25:52,293 --> 00:25:56,053 Speaker 4: back from like ICC posting about Susie and Sophie still 424 00:25:56,093 --> 00:25:57,013 Speaker 4: gives me goosebump. 425 00:25:57,093 --> 00:25:58,813 Speaker 7: So I think it's sort of setting in now, which 426 00:25:58,893 --> 00:25:59,413 Speaker 7: is pretty cool. 427 00:26:00,053 --> 00:26:02,493 Speaker 3: It was a long tough road to get there, though, 428 00:26:02,613 --> 00:26:02,893 Speaker 3: wasn't it. 429 00:26:02,973 --> 00:26:05,773 Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't always plain sailing and easy going 430 00:26:05,933 --> 00:26:08,893 Speaker 2: for you as a team or individual in the team. 431 00:26:09,173 --> 00:26:11,213 Speaker 7: No, yeah, definitely, I think sort of. 432 00:26:11,293 --> 00:26:13,173 Speaker 4: I feel like most people think that you need to 433 00:26:13,213 --> 00:26:14,853 Speaker 4: be on a winning role to be able to do 434 00:26:15,013 --> 00:26:16,693 Speaker 4: well at these tournaments, but I think we sort of 435 00:26:16,693 --> 00:26:19,493 Speaker 4: did the opposite of that, and obviously had ten losses 436 00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:21,493 Speaker 4: on the trot against two of the top sides in 437 00:26:21,533 --> 00:26:23,333 Speaker 4: the world. But I think a lot of people have 438 00:26:23,493 --> 00:26:26,213 Speaker 4: talked about how against the Aussie series we were starting 439 00:26:26,293 --> 00:26:29,893 Speaker 4: to see some good performances from different people and knowing 440 00:26:29,973 --> 00:26:33,013 Speaker 4: that it can't just be Susie, Sophie and merely and 441 00:26:33,253 --> 00:26:35,493 Speaker 4: other people have to contribute. So it was just amazing 442 00:26:35,573 --> 00:26:38,213 Speaker 4: that that tournament everyone stood up at different times and 443 00:26:38,293 --> 00:26:40,053 Speaker 4: where a lot of the younger ones were able to 444 00:26:40,173 --> 00:26:42,293 Speaker 4: contribute as well, like the likes of Eden and as 445 00:26:42,333 --> 00:26:44,613 Speaker 4: he Goes, I think they were amazing and so to 446 00:26:44,693 --> 00:26:46,613 Speaker 4: be on the top of the world stage and all 447 00:26:46,733 --> 00:26:49,133 Speaker 4: kind of come together and especially that final have such 448 00:26:49,173 --> 00:26:50,413 Speaker 4: a great game altogether. 449 00:26:50,453 --> 00:26:51,413 Speaker 7: I think it was just amazing. 450 00:26:51,653 --> 00:26:51,813 Speaker 3: Yeah. 451 00:26:51,853 --> 00:26:54,333 Speaker 2: It says a lot about consistency of performance that might 452 00:26:54,413 --> 00:26:56,973 Speaker 2: not have been there in the lead up, but when 453 00:26:57,013 --> 00:26:59,453 Speaker 2: you get to the tournaments it consistency is important. 454 00:26:59,653 --> 00:27:00,253 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. 455 00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:03,333 Speaker 4: I think obviously starting that first game against India and 456 00:27:03,493 --> 00:27:06,093 Speaker 4: really being able to play such a great sort of 457 00:27:06,173 --> 00:27:08,453 Speaker 4: brand that we've been wanting to play for such a 458 00:27:08,533 --> 00:27:10,533 Speaker 4: long time and be able to execute that on the 459 00:27:10,573 --> 00:27:12,813 Speaker 4: first game, I think obviously that just gives a lot 460 00:27:12,813 --> 00:27:15,693 Speaker 4: of confidence throughout the tournament that we're in the right 461 00:27:15,773 --> 00:27:17,773 Speaker 4: spots and we're doing the right thing, and when we 462 00:27:17,853 --> 00:27:19,533 Speaker 4: all come together on the right day, it's all going 463 00:27:19,573 --> 00:27:20,773 Speaker 4: to work and we can beat. 464 00:27:20,613 --> 00:27:23,493 Speaker 7: The best in the world. Was it fun one hundred percent? 465 00:27:23,693 --> 00:27:23,853 Speaker 5: Yeah. 466 00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:26,533 Speaker 4: I think obviously winning helps it be a little bit 467 00:27:26,573 --> 00:27:30,133 Speaker 4: more fun. It's been quite a sad sort of last 468 00:27:30,173 --> 00:27:32,213 Speaker 4: couple of months with some of the losses we've been through, 469 00:27:32,293 --> 00:27:34,533 Speaker 4: but I think that's sort of made it these wins 470 00:27:35,333 --> 00:27:37,013 Speaker 4: even more better. I think you have to go through 471 00:27:37,053 --> 00:27:39,053 Speaker 4: those losses to be able to experience all. 472 00:27:38,973 --> 00:27:41,053 Speaker 7: Of that to make the wins feel even better. 473 00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:44,253 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think for a small country like us 474 00:27:44,293 --> 00:27:45,853 Speaker 4: to be able to do that on the world stage 475 00:27:45,853 --> 00:27:47,893 Speaker 4: and perform at such a big event, I think it 476 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:50,853 Speaker 4: was just amazing for you individually. 477 00:27:51,333 --> 00:27:53,293 Speaker 2: You went through some tough times as well, didn't you, 478 00:27:53,413 --> 00:27:56,893 Speaker 2: But your game progress quite dramatically through to the fact 479 00:27:56,933 --> 00:27:59,093 Speaker 2: that you were in New Zealand's leading run score along 480 00:27:59,173 --> 00:28:01,533 Speaker 2: with the Susi bats during the tournament, that you were 481 00:28:01,573 --> 00:28:04,013 Speaker 2: starting to get runs and starting to contribute at the 482 00:28:04,053 --> 00:28:04,693 Speaker 2: top of the order. 483 00:28:05,093 --> 00:28:06,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think obviously being at the top of the 484 00:28:06,853 --> 00:28:08,413 Speaker 4: order has been a little bit different for me in 485 00:28:08,493 --> 00:28:10,733 Speaker 4: the last couple of months, but I think it's just 486 00:28:10,773 --> 00:28:13,013 Speaker 4: the major backing that we've had from the support stuff 487 00:28:13,053 --> 00:28:14,413 Speaker 4: and the players as well. 488 00:28:14,453 --> 00:28:16,533 Speaker 7: Obviously in England, I didn't perform. 489 00:28:16,413 --> 00:28:19,733 Speaker 4: Like I wanted to, and I really wanted to contribute 490 00:28:19,773 --> 00:28:21,413 Speaker 4: to the team as much as I can. But I 491 00:28:21,493 --> 00:28:23,653 Speaker 4: think the conversations that I've had with lots of the 492 00:28:23,733 --> 00:28:27,413 Speaker 4: coaches and Sophie and Susie, and obviously having Susie up 493 00:28:27,453 --> 00:28:29,093 Speaker 4: the top to be able to bat with she's been 494 00:28:29,293 --> 00:28:31,733 Speaker 4: in the game for so long and she's experienced so 495 00:28:31,893 --> 00:28:33,733 Speaker 4: much that'll be able to talk to her through what 496 00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:36,773 Speaker 4: I'm feeling and sort of use that confidence from her. 497 00:28:36,813 --> 00:28:37,813 Speaker 7: I think has been amazing. 498 00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:41,013 Speaker 4: And I guess that score and Australia sort of helped 499 00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:43,213 Speaker 4: me sort of get that confidence that I can score 500 00:28:43,293 --> 00:28:46,373 Speaker 4: runs in the international game, and it just sort of 501 00:28:46,413 --> 00:28:48,853 Speaker 4: followed on. And Yeah, I guess the style of Plan 502 00:28:48,973 --> 00:28:51,213 Speaker 4: T twenty that I'm playing at the moment, sometimes it 503 00:28:51,333 --> 00:28:53,773 Speaker 4: might not show up show up, but if I'm still 504 00:28:53,813 --> 00:28:55,773 Speaker 4: aggressive and I'm trying to take the game on, if 505 00:28:55,813 --> 00:28:58,213 Speaker 4: it does come off, then hopefully that puts the team 506 00:28:58,253 --> 00:28:59,613 Speaker 4: in a bit of stead for the rest of the game. 507 00:29:00,053 --> 00:29:00,893 Speaker 3: What did you change? 508 00:29:00,973 --> 00:29:03,253 Speaker 2: Did you change your mental approach or did you change 509 00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:07,093 Speaker 2: your technique and application of your skills on the part. 510 00:29:07,213 --> 00:29:09,373 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been doing a lot of technique work over 511 00:29:09,453 --> 00:29:11,173 Speaker 4: the last two years. I think when I first came 512 00:29:11,213 --> 00:29:13,893 Speaker 4: into the White Fans, the technique just wasn't good enough 513 00:29:13,933 --> 00:29:16,333 Speaker 4: for international cricket at that point, and so to be 514 00:29:16,413 --> 00:29:18,733 Speaker 4: working on it with the batting coach Dean Brownley for 515 00:29:18,813 --> 00:29:20,933 Speaker 4: quite a while, and then over the last couple of 516 00:29:21,013 --> 00:29:23,093 Speaker 4: months have been really working on my mental game and 517 00:29:23,693 --> 00:29:27,813 Speaker 4: talking to our sports psychologists about how to get confidence 518 00:29:27,893 --> 00:29:30,013 Speaker 4: and how to sort of go out in those pressure 519 00:29:30,053 --> 00:29:32,493 Speaker 4: situations and be able to perform. But yeah, I think 520 00:29:32,533 --> 00:29:35,213 Speaker 4: it's a big boast of everything that's kind of gone 521 00:29:35,253 --> 00:29:36,973 Speaker 4: on in the last two months that has kind of 522 00:29:36,973 --> 00:29:37,973 Speaker 4: put me where I am right now. 523 00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:40,333 Speaker 2: One of the things that I noticed from watching you 524 00:29:40,533 --> 00:29:43,253 Speaker 2: during that tournament was that you change more from hitting 525 00:29:43,813 --> 00:29:47,733 Speaker 2: through the wider mid on midwicket region and you were 526 00:29:47,853 --> 00:29:51,413 Speaker 2: playing down the ground. Was that an intentional move for 527 00:29:51,693 --> 00:29:52,293 Speaker 2: playing straight? 528 00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:52,693 Speaker 3: Yeah? 529 00:29:52,813 --> 00:29:54,733 Speaker 4: Differently, I think a lot of the wagon wheels and 530 00:29:55,293 --> 00:29:58,293 Speaker 4: that tournament kind of showed me just literally scoring in 531 00:29:58,373 --> 00:30:01,093 Speaker 4: the v which in time I really want to work 532 00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:03,173 Speaker 4: on being out of school around the ground. But I 533 00:30:03,213 --> 00:30:06,093 Speaker 4: think the pictures over and Dubai sort of helped my 534 00:30:06,293 --> 00:30:08,853 Speaker 4: game and that I just want to keep playing heading 535 00:30:08,933 --> 00:30:11,173 Speaker 4: hard and straight, and I think the low slow pitches 536 00:30:11,213 --> 00:30:13,173 Speaker 4: and Dubai, I think that's what we found was obviously 537 00:30:13,253 --> 00:30:15,453 Speaker 4: the most the thing that worked the most, and so 538 00:30:15,573 --> 00:30:17,133 Speaker 4: for it to be able to be my sort of 539 00:30:17,173 --> 00:30:19,973 Speaker 4: game plan and work in those conditions. 540 00:30:19,533 --> 00:30:21,333 Speaker 7: I think it's sort of helped me a bit to 541 00:30:21,413 --> 00:30:22,613 Speaker 7: be able to take down teams. 542 00:30:22,653 --> 00:30:25,133 Speaker 4: If I just commit to being strong down the ground, 543 00:30:25,453 --> 00:30:27,973 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if they've got fields set there. 544 00:30:27,973 --> 00:30:30,053 Speaker 7: I still back myself to be able to hit it 545 00:30:30,133 --> 00:30:30,413 Speaker 7: through them. 546 00:30:30,653 --> 00:30:33,013 Speaker 2: You've seem bubbly and if a Vessons, is that what 547 00:30:33,253 --> 00:30:34,773 Speaker 2: you want to bring in in your game of cricket 548 00:30:34,813 --> 00:30:35,093 Speaker 2: as well? 549 00:30:35,413 --> 00:30:36,093 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. 550 00:30:36,173 --> 00:30:38,533 Speaker 4: I think still being quite young and new to the 551 00:30:38,613 --> 00:30:41,653 Speaker 4: international scene, I think we have the likes of Susians 552 00:30:41,693 --> 00:30:43,533 Speaker 4: Sophie and and Lea who have been in it for 553 00:30:43,613 --> 00:30:45,693 Speaker 4: a while, and I think, yeah, obviously we had a 554 00:30:45,773 --> 00:30:49,453 Speaker 4: hard coming up to the World Cup, and I think 555 00:30:49,493 --> 00:30:52,213 Speaker 4: the way that the whole team sort of connects together 556 00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:53,933 Speaker 4: and can get the best out of people. I think 557 00:30:53,973 --> 00:30:55,773 Speaker 4: that's when you play your best cricket, is when you 558 00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,453 Speaker 4: feel comfortable on a team and be able to be yourself. 559 00:30:58,493 --> 00:31:00,173 Speaker 4: And I think that's what we kind of showed in 560 00:31:00,253 --> 00:31:02,853 Speaker 4: that last T twenty World Cup. Is that how we 561 00:31:03,213 --> 00:31:05,133 Speaker 4: work as a team sort of helped the gel. 562 00:31:05,053 --> 00:31:05,733 Speaker 7: Out on the field. 563 00:31:05,973 --> 00:31:08,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've made a public statement, haven't you, team by 564 00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:09,853 Speaker 2: winning this tournament. 565 00:31:10,213 --> 00:31:11,773 Speaker 3: You've now got to try and do it again and 566 00:31:11,853 --> 00:31:13,573 Speaker 3: beat Australia and beat England and. 567 00:31:13,613 --> 00:31:16,853 Speaker 2: Of course you now move into that category of becoming 568 00:31:16,933 --> 00:31:20,053 Speaker 2: a senior player and perhaps as a role model for 569 00:31:20,813 --> 00:31:23,053 Speaker 2: younger players. You were saying that, you know, people were 570 00:31:23,093 --> 00:31:24,933 Speaker 2: talking to you down at the Wellington railway station this 571 00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:27,293 Speaker 2: morning about, you know, wanting to get in and play cricket. 572 00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:27,613 Speaker 1: Yeah. 573 00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,453 Speaker 4: I guess that's the when you come home and you 574 00:31:30,573 --> 00:31:32,213 Speaker 4: just go back to your home, you kind of just 575 00:31:32,253 --> 00:31:34,293 Speaker 4: feel like you're just yourself. But then being able to 576 00:31:34,773 --> 00:31:36,213 Speaker 4: come and talk to some of the fans at the 577 00:31:36,293 --> 00:31:38,373 Speaker 4: railway station and hearing some of them, some of the 578 00:31:38,453 --> 00:31:41,733 Speaker 4: moms talk about how their little girls and sons have 579 00:31:41,853 --> 00:31:44,333 Speaker 4: been watching it and really loving us playing cricket and 580 00:31:44,413 --> 00:31:46,293 Speaker 4: they might not be the sportiest people, but now they 581 00:31:46,333 --> 00:31:48,693 Speaker 4: want to take up playing cricket. I think that's really 582 00:31:48,773 --> 00:31:50,693 Speaker 4: what the whole thing's about, and how we are as 583 00:31:50,933 --> 00:31:53,653 Speaker 4: white fans, we really want to inspire lots of New 584 00:31:53,733 --> 00:31:56,453 Speaker 4: Zealanders to pick up sport and cricket and also leave 585 00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:59,133 Speaker 4: the Jersey in a better place, which obviously the likes 586 00:31:59,173 --> 00:32:01,133 Speaker 4: of Susie and so you have done it for such 587 00:32:01,173 --> 00:32:03,253 Speaker 4: a long time and there've been such still warts of 588 00:32:03,853 --> 00:32:05,933 Speaker 4: the games that to be able to try and sort 589 00:32:05,973 --> 00:32:08,213 Speaker 4: of do the same thing that they are and inspire 590 00:32:08,413 --> 00:32:09,093 Speaker 4: many people. 591 00:32:08,893 --> 00:32:10,333 Speaker 7: In this country I think is really the goal. 592 00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:13,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, tea tweety fifty over cricket. What about Test match 593 00:32:14,013 --> 00:32:15,973 Speaker 2: or first class cricket? Where does that sit with you? 594 00:32:16,173 --> 00:32:17,213 Speaker 2: Is he to smile on your face? 595 00:32:17,973 --> 00:32:21,013 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess obviously Test match cricket is the pinnacle 596 00:32:21,053 --> 00:32:24,053 Speaker 4: of cricket, and to be able to see the success 597 00:32:24,133 --> 00:32:26,733 Speaker 4: that the black set black Caps have recently had as well, 598 00:32:26,733 --> 00:32:29,413 Speaker 4: I think that's really entertaining to see and to see 599 00:32:29,453 --> 00:32:32,493 Speaker 4: how entertaining Test cricket still can be. And yeah, I 600 00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:34,693 Speaker 4: think it's pretty cool the opportunities that a lot of 601 00:32:34,733 --> 00:32:37,093 Speaker 4: the other women teams have been having at the moment 602 00:32:37,173 --> 00:32:37,813 Speaker 4: to be able. 603 00:32:37,653 --> 00:32:38,013 Speaker 7: To play it. 604 00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:40,813 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it would be a great thing 605 00:32:40,893 --> 00:32:42,253 Speaker 4: to play, and I think a lot of the girls 606 00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:43,533 Speaker 4: have been wanting to play it. 607 00:32:43,653 --> 00:32:44,693 Speaker 7: But yeah, I guess a lot. 608 00:32:44,653 --> 00:32:46,453 Speaker 4: Goes into it and sort of being able to prep 609 00:32:46,493 --> 00:32:48,533 Speaker 4: yourself to be able to play longer formats of cricket. 610 00:32:48,573 --> 00:32:50,453 Speaker 7: But yeah, I think it's it's exciting. 611 00:32:50,813 --> 00:32:52,893 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, there's that opportunity. 612 00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:55,893 Speaker 2: I suppose in the future you've laid down the marker 613 00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:58,573 Speaker 2: in terms of what you can do at the short 614 00:32:58,613 --> 00:32:59,093 Speaker 2: form game. 615 00:32:59,493 --> 00:33:01,333 Speaker 3: The red Bull would be really encouraging. 616 00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:04,093 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've definitely had a big focus on the white 617 00:33:04,093 --> 00:33:06,693 Speaker 4: ball cricket at the moment, but yeah, if there's a possibility, 618 00:33:06,733 --> 00:33:08,133 Speaker 4: I think a lot of the girls would be pretty 619 00:33:08,333 --> 00:33:09,013 Speaker 4: pretty happy to do it. 620 00:33:09,893 --> 00:33:12,973 Speaker 2: Georgia Plummer, Jerry, it's nice to hear a young lady 621 00:33:13,693 --> 00:33:18,293 Speaker 2: and talk so enthusiastically about the game that she's now 622 00:33:18,413 --> 00:33:20,573 Speaker 2: put her in mind to. She's got a good bank 623 00:33:20,653 --> 00:33:24,773 Speaker 2: balance out of winning that World ten twenty. She acknowledges 624 00:33:25,293 --> 00:33:28,453 Speaker 2: their weaknesses that she's working on, and that's what we've 625 00:33:28,533 --> 00:33:31,253 Speaker 2: talked about. Isn't it that they have to work on 626 00:33:31,573 --> 00:33:32,333 Speaker 2: those weaknesses? 627 00:33:33,133 --> 00:33:35,773 Speaker 5: I mean that and in a way is certainly as 628 00:33:35,853 --> 00:33:38,373 Speaker 5: good as the New Zealand winning three nil I think, 629 00:33:38,493 --> 00:33:41,253 Speaker 5: I mean, that's an extraordinary victory over there. Isn't it 630 00:33:42,613 --> 00:33:44,973 Speaker 5: to come from where they came from to where they 631 00:33:45,053 --> 00:33:51,093 Speaker 5: went to as extraordinary? And I was interested in what 632 00:33:51,293 --> 00:33:54,013 Speaker 5: she said about that, some of the changes she made 633 00:33:54,733 --> 00:33:57,013 Speaker 5: when she got into the side, and she's been working 634 00:33:57,133 --> 00:34:03,133 Speaker 5: on clearly straightening her game up from you know, to 635 00:34:03,293 --> 00:34:06,253 Speaker 5: so that she hits and defends down the pitch a 636 00:34:06,333 --> 00:34:12,053 Speaker 5: bit more, stays in a bit long. She's spoken obviously 637 00:34:12,213 --> 00:34:16,893 Speaker 5: to various people about getting some building some confidence, and 638 00:34:17,053 --> 00:34:20,053 Speaker 5: I could understand that with the way that she was 639 00:34:20,133 --> 00:34:25,653 Speaker 5: going prior to this this World Cup, she's obviously got 640 00:34:25,733 --> 00:34:29,333 Speaker 5: confidence now you can hear that in her voice, and 641 00:34:29,933 --> 00:34:33,653 Speaker 5: that's a great thing to have. But certainly you and 642 00:34:33,733 --> 00:34:37,133 Speaker 5: I both noticed she was scoring in different parts of 643 00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:40,693 Speaker 5: the ground. Wasn't she over that over that sort of 644 00:34:40,773 --> 00:34:44,853 Speaker 5: week and a half and what a result got for her. 645 00:34:45,693 --> 00:34:48,733 Speaker 5: I suppose you could argue it was easier for her 646 00:34:49,453 --> 00:34:54,773 Speaker 5: being an opener because in Dubai and Shahja, where the 647 00:34:54,853 --> 00:34:58,533 Speaker 5: pictures are slow and low, the ball at least comes 648 00:34:58,613 --> 00:35:02,133 Speaker 5: on to you because it's new, and you can hit 649 00:35:02,333 --> 00:35:04,413 Speaker 5: through the line of the ball a little bit more 650 00:35:04,493 --> 00:35:07,533 Speaker 5: as she does. You'd be in trouble if you wanted 651 00:35:07,613 --> 00:35:11,533 Speaker 5: to go legs, you'd get bold and LBW I think. 652 00:35:13,253 --> 00:35:18,293 Speaker 5: And so just her totals, you know, and her work 653 00:35:18,453 --> 00:35:21,773 Speaker 5: was Susie Bates, and she talked about her how important 654 00:35:21,813 --> 00:35:24,533 Speaker 5: it was to be batting with Susie Baits. In that 655 00:35:24,773 --> 00:35:30,053 Speaker 5: power play, they really got New Zealand away to some 656 00:35:30,213 --> 00:35:34,573 Speaker 5: good starts, you know. And she got thirty four off 657 00:35:34,653 --> 00:35:37,293 Speaker 5: twenty three, she got fifty three off forty eight, She 658 00:35:37,413 --> 00:35:39,813 Speaker 5: got fifty three off forty four. I mean these are 659 00:35:39,893 --> 00:35:44,573 Speaker 5: quite good totals, aren't they, And she's making a significant contribution, 660 00:35:45,533 --> 00:35:49,053 Speaker 5: so I mean, she did very well and so I'm 661 00:35:49,133 --> 00:35:51,733 Speaker 5: thrilled for her, as for the rest of the girls, 662 00:35:52,293 --> 00:35:55,453 Speaker 5: and so well done to them. I'm glad they're also 663 00:35:55,573 --> 00:36:00,173 Speaker 5: able to take the trophy around. They deserve that and 664 00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:05,773 Speaker 5: I'm sure it will help that process of attracting other 665 00:36:05,933 --> 00:36:10,533 Speaker 5: youngsters and other young women to come and play, you know, 666 00:36:10,853 --> 00:36:14,093 Speaker 5: so that's a very important thing. 667 00:36:14,533 --> 00:36:16,373 Speaker 2: That was one of the things she said that when 668 00:36:16,453 --> 00:36:18,773 Speaker 2: they were standing at Wellington railway station where they were 669 00:36:18,813 --> 00:36:23,173 Speaker 2: greeted by many of the commuters and got good round 670 00:36:23,213 --> 00:36:26,293 Speaker 2: of applause at various times from the people down there, 671 00:36:26,333 --> 00:36:28,693 Speaker 2: that there were people who also came up and said, 672 00:36:28,973 --> 00:36:31,493 Speaker 2: you know, it makes me want to go and play cricket. 673 00:36:31,533 --> 00:36:34,093 Speaker 2: And I think that is what New Zealand cricket has 674 00:36:34,173 --> 00:36:36,413 Speaker 2: to look forward to these young players. And I think 675 00:36:36,493 --> 00:36:41,293 Speaker 2: the last part of that interview was how about thinking 676 00:36:41,453 --> 00:36:45,093 Speaker 2: about a first class competition, give them more time out 677 00:36:45,133 --> 00:36:47,973 Speaker 2: in the middle to develop them games, not to develop 678 00:36:48,053 --> 00:36:52,533 Speaker 2: it at T twenty perhaps a bit more ODI cricket. 679 00:36:52,573 --> 00:36:54,213 Speaker 2: And that's what they're going to have because it's a 680 00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:56,933 Speaker 2: World Cup coming up, but they need to be playing 681 00:36:57,253 --> 00:37:02,253 Speaker 2: more quality cricket rather than just the lottery that is 682 00:37:02,613 --> 00:37:03,413 Speaker 2: white ball cricket. 683 00:37:03,773 --> 00:37:06,773 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. I think we've touched on this a 684 00:37:06,813 --> 00:37:10,573 Speaker 5: little bit before. If New Zealand hasn't got the money 685 00:37:11,053 --> 00:37:15,053 Speaker 5: to try and bring these players together, they'll think through 686 00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:18,453 Speaker 5: it if they're smart, and maybe two day games wads 687 00:37:18,493 --> 00:37:22,453 Speaker 5: will certainly be a very good start, and two day 688 00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:26,373 Speaker 5: red ball games and that will help their ODI cricket 689 00:37:26,653 --> 00:37:30,333 Speaker 5: a great deal. They'll have to be more aware of, 690 00:37:30,973 --> 00:37:34,013 Speaker 5: you know, playing a bit more straight. It's staying in 691 00:37:34,093 --> 00:37:38,413 Speaker 5: a little bit longer, finding singles and judging the you 692 00:37:38,493 --> 00:37:41,253 Speaker 5: know what is a run that's very important for ODIs 693 00:37:41,293 --> 00:37:46,293 Speaker 5: and for twenty twenties. So that will help those white 694 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,613 Speaker 5: ball games a great deal as well, and it'll push 695 00:37:49,693 --> 00:37:52,613 Speaker 5: on them from there to make them better all round players. 696 00:37:53,173 --> 00:37:53,373 Speaker 3: Yep. 697 00:37:53,533 --> 00:37:58,333 Speaker 2: And they're home now to place some HBDA Halliburton Johnson matches, 698 00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:01,293 Speaker 2: So that's the over cricket rather than T twenty and 699 00:38:01,853 --> 00:38:04,893 Speaker 2: we look forward to seeing them perform. You can put 700 00:38:04,893 --> 00:38:07,293 Speaker 2: your feed up for a couple of weeks during no 701 00:38:07,413 --> 00:38:10,573 Speaker 2: Test cricket. You've done the hard yards. Very proud of 702 00:38:10,653 --> 00:38:14,773 Speaker 2: your achievements. Happy to celebrate them with you, and you 703 00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:16,813 Speaker 2: can send me a bottle of read. 704 00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:21,053 Speaker 5: Thanks. Wadds. Yeah, that was It was great fun watching it, 705 00:38:21,213 --> 00:38:26,213 Speaker 5: wasn't it. I mean so just it was was it 706 00:38:26,373 --> 00:38:28,933 Speaker 5: made you, It made me think back to some of 707 00:38:29,013 --> 00:38:32,173 Speaker 5: the difficult times and to see them working so hard 708 00:38:32,253 --> 00:38:34,813 Speaker 5: together and they were thrilled as a team, weren't they 709 00:38:34,893 --> 00:38:37,573 Speaker 5: when they when they had those little moments at the 710 00:38:37,693 --> 00:38:41,333 Speaker 5: end of games that they couldn't quite believe what they 711 00:38:41,413 --> 00:38:45,973 Speaker 5: had achieved. And we should be very proud of proud 712 00:38:46,013 --> 00:38:47,013 Speaker 5: of them and what they've done. 713 00:38:47,413 --> 00:38:50,733 Speaker 2: Indeed, right over, let's bring on the palms and be 714 00:38:50,813 --> 00:38:52,333 Speaker 2: ready for that very week. 715 00:38:53,053 --> 00:39:05,013 Speaker 5: Absolutely, we'll be in there summer for more from News 716 00:39:05,053 --> 00:39:05,613 Speaker 5: Talks ad B. 717 00:39:05,893 --> 00:39:09,133 Speaker 1: Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows 718 00:39:09,173 --> 00:39:12,453 Speaker 1: with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.