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Speaker 1: Seven after five. We're too for the Fast Track, the

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Speaker 1: hotly debated fast Track Bill that became law last night,

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Speaker 1: not before some protesters had their say one final time.

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Speaker 2: Leave the house. Please no, don't do that, guys, pull that.

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Speaker 2: Don't interfere.

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Speaker 1: They certainly got told, didn't they. One hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: nine projects are named in the bill, supposed to get

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Speaker 1: the big infrastructure stuff off and running, housing, energy projects

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Speaker 1: all off the ground faster. Chris Bishop is the Minister

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Speaker 1: for Infrastructure. Hello minister, Hello, thanks for being on the program.

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Speaker 1: What happens now the laws passed? How quickly can a

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Speaker 1: project happen?

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Speaker 2: So the law has been passed and the couple of

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Speaker 2: general wars and then it will be officially law and

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Speaker 2: people will be able to apply from the seventh of

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Speaker 2: February next year. And there's a whole lot of work

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes. We're standing up the you know, we've

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Speaker 2: got a point of panel convener to a point to

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Speaker 2: the expert panels that we've got to get the sort

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Speaker 2: of portal live and all the kind of administrative stuff

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Speaker 2: that you'd expect. But seventh of February is the key date.

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Speaker 1: So that's when you can apply how long do you

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Speaker 1: think applications will take.

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Speaker 2: Well, it will depend a little bit. Some are more

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Speaker 2: going to be more complicated than others. But obviously we've

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Speaker 2: got that initial list of one hundred and forty nine

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Speaker 2: projects that are sort of pre approved as meeting the

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Speaker 2: test of national and regional significance. So there'll be the

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Speaker 2: kind of first cabs off the rank, if you if

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Speaker 2: you want to put it like that, and then I'm

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Speaker 2: almost certain that many will apply straight away. We've got

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Speaker 2: to get the expert panel set up as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 2: so we're doing that work over the next six to

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Speaker 2: eight weeks and then you know they'll be sit up

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Speaker 2: and they'll be going off to the panel. So I

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Speaker 2: would expect you will see projects consented next year definitely.

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Speaker 1: Will you be okay, good? And then presumably they will

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Speaker 1: be some of them will be gung home, wanting to

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Speaker 1: get shovels and ground or in ocean whatever it might be. Straightway, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole point of the fast track law

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Speaker 1: is that it's a one stop shop. So you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with resource consents, Wildlife Act conservation. You know, again it

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Speaker 1: will depend on the project, but you know, all of

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Speaker 1: the things you need to do so that you can

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Speaker 1: turn the first side and get on with things. Fundings

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Speaker 1: are separate issue. You know there will be projects that

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Speaker 1: will get consented that that aren't economic to build quite yet,

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Speaker 1: or don't have funding attached, both from the public and

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Speaker 1: the private sector. But you know, if there's private capital

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Speaker 1: available and the projects are consented through the fast Track,

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Speaker 1: then you know they can get on with it. And

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what this country needs. We need people putting

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Speaker 1: up money, getting on with the job and getting things

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Speaker 1: built in this country. I couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 1: But would you be surprised if any who are on

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Speaker 1: the list one hundred and forty nine that you talk

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Speaker 1: about don't get approval.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've deliberately left it open for the expert panels

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Speaker 2: to decline projects in some circumstances where the adverse effects

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Speaker 2: on the environment outweigh the significance of the project. And

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Speaker 2: so you might remember when we first started talking about

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Speaker 2: fast Track, it was going to be the minister or

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Speaker 2: minister's plural the twika, you know, me and Shane and

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Speaker 2: some of them. We were going to have the ability

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Speaker 2: to essentially grant the consents ourselves we changed that because

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Speaker 2: well for a variety of reasons, but we heard the

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Speaker 2: sort of public feedback around that, and so the Panels

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Speaker 2: have the ability to grant the final yay or nay,

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Speaker 2: so you know it will be ultimately over to the Panels.

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Speaker 2: But we've sent a very clear message Parliament has and

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Speaker 2: the government has that we want to get on with

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Speaker 2: the job of making it easy to build infrastructure, renewable energy, minds,

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Speaker 2: quarries and all the things that this country needs to

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Speaker 2: get ahead.

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Speaker 1: Opposition says if they are put back in charge, they'll

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Speaker 1: revoke consents. They are even warning those who are investing

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Speaker 1: in these projects look out, because you know we'll be

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Speaker 1: coming and making life hard for you. Do you think

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Speaker 1: that would put perhaps call some trepidation in the minds

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Speaker 1: of those who are wanting to invest.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Married Party said that, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: anyone takes them particularly seriously. I mean, they're just a

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Speaker 2: joke of a political party that that sort of stuff

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Speaker 2: would make New Zealand into a banana republic. I mean,

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Speaker 2: no one should.

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Speaker 1: Take well, we did the oil and gas, we did

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Speaker 1: the oilce band was no warning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I don't think anyone should take anything the

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Speaker 2: Married Party says, seriously, this is a really important bill

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Speaker 2: and act actually now that will help New Zealand get ahead.

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Speaker 2: And any sort of suggestion from the opposition that projects

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Speaker 2: that are consented might have their their projects retrospectively reversed

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Speaker 2: or anything like that, you know, that would that would

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Speaker 2: see in New Zealand even further down down the path

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Speaker 2: of civil world status, which if where we were heading

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Speaker 2: under the last government.

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Speaker 1: It's technically possible, though, I mean, if a new government

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Speaker 1: came in and they wanted to do that, they could

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Speaker 1: do that. What you're saying is that that would just

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Speaker 1: sully our reputation to the point beyond beyond, which it's

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Speaker 1: a joke.

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Speaker 2: But parliament is beyond the sovereign. You know, Parliament supreme

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Speaker 2: Parliament can do almost anything in this country. But there

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Speaker 2: are institutional norms and constitutional conventions that prevent parliaments doing

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Speaker 2: things like that. So I would hope that saner minds

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Speaker 2: on the opposition ventures prevail and no one to take

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Speaker 2: any as any attention to the wild ramblings of a

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Speaker 2: favored political party in the Married Party. Ultimately, Parliament is sovereign,

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Speaker 2: but I think saner minds would prevail.

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Speaker 1: All right, minister, thank you for that. That's christ Biship,

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Speaker 1: Infrastructure Minister. Twelve after five For more from Hither Duplessy

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