1 00:00:06,815 --> 00:00:10,695 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:11,655 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,695 --> 00:00:15,695 Speaker 2: A'd be by breaking news. Folks, be prepared to be amazed. 4 00:00:16,175 --> 00:00:19,975 Speaker 2: There are thought to be twenty thousand species of insects 5 00:00:20,015 --> 00:00:23,295 Speaker 2: in Alta and New Zealand. Ninety percent of them are endemic. 6 00:00:23,975 --> 00:00:26,055 Speaker 2: That's on page nine of the book. The book is 7 00:00:26,135 --> 00:00:31,215 Speaker 2: fantastic road the Incredible Insects of Altor. So what's your 8 00:00:31,255 --> 00:00:32,055 Speaker 2: involvement with it? 9 00:00:32,615 --> 00:00:36,215 Speaker 3: Well, it's just Simon Pollard and Phil Servada, mates of mine. 10 00:00:36,255 --> 00:00:38,495 Speaker 3: Of course, we actually the two of the two of 11 00:00:38,535 --> 00:00:42,135 Speaker 3: them and me. We we once put together the Bug 12 00:00:42,215 --> 00:00:45,495 Speaker 3: lab At which was that huge thing that went all 13 00:00:45,495 --> 00:00:48,175 Speaker 3: over the world. And these guys have been writing this 14 00:00:48,215 --> 00:00:50,895 Speaker 3: book and they've written other books as well there And 15 00:00:50,975 --> 00:00:53,975 Speaker 3: the nice thing is, even as an entomologist, I can't 16 00:00:54,095 --> 00:00:56,175 Speaker 3: learn a hell of a lot of it. Yeah right, 17 00:00:56,695 --> 00:00:59,655 Speaker 3: you know, there's good stuff and it is easy to read, 18 00:00:59,895 --> 00:01:02,695 Speaker 3: brilliant and those sort of did you knows are really cool. 19 00:01:03,295 --> 00:01:05,055 Speaker 2: So the guys think this has got to be in 20 00:01:05,135 --> 00:01:06,095 Speaker 2: every school library. 21 00:01:06,695 --> 00:01:09,295 Speaker 3: It certainly has to be. Yeah, But anybody that's a 22 00:01:09,295 --> 00:01:11,695 Speaker 3: bit of a nature earth and likes its bugs should 23 00:01:11,735 --> 00:01:14,015 Speaker 3: have a look at that it's not that it's it's 24 00:01:14,215 --> 00:01:16,215 Speaker 3: it's not that expensive. It's great. I don't even know 25 00:01:16,255 --> 00:01:19,655 Speaker 3: what costs, but it's pretty cool, pretty cool. So we 26 00:01:19,695 --> 00:01:21,215 Speaker 3: thought we'd give one away. How's that. 27 00:01:21,335 --> 00:01:22,455 Speaker 2: I think that's a great idea. 28 00:01:22,855 --> 00:01:24,975 Speaker 3: Okay, well I have my desire standing by. 29 00:01:24,935 --> 00:01:25,015 Speaker 1: So. 30 00:01:26,975 --> 00:01:29,495 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's west the houses you love the wis. 31 00:01:30,255 --> 00:01:33,135 Speaker 3: Oh, I certainly do, yes, especially the ones that can 32 00:01:33,175 --> 00:01:37,815 Speaker 3: freeze to mindus eleven and still survive. Right, those are 33 00:01:37,855 --> 00:01:41,615 Speaker 3: little miracles that we learned from these insects. For instance, 34 00:01:41,935 --> 00:01:48,295 Speaker 3: how to transport, transport what you called transport organs, you know, 35 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:51,455 Speaker 3: from one don or to somebody in the hospital on 36 00:01:51,735 --> 00:01:56,935 Speaker 3: ice without damaging the actual organ. You know what I mean. 37 00:01:57,695 --> 00:02:00,175 Speaker 3: That's exactly how those wetter have taught us how to 38 00:02:00,215 --> 00:02:01,695 Speaker 3: do these things. This is great stuff. 39 00:02:02,215 --> 00:02:03,975 Speaker 2: That's really nice in the book too, is that it 40 00:02:04,015 --> 00:02:06,095 Speaker 2: talks about a lot of the experts. You know, so 41 00:02:06,295 --> 00:02:09,895 Speaker 2: people that work away, I guess quietly in the background 42 00:02:10,015 --> 00:02:14,095 Speaker 2: doing fantastic work, get a moment in the in print 43 00:02:14,175 --> 00:02:18,895 Speaker 2: and in this giant stick insect, the longest insect in Altewer. 44 00:02:19,135 --> 00:02:21,095 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a phenomenal creature. 45 00:02:21,575 --> 00:02:24,215 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's lovely, it's got lovely little things in it 46 00:02:24,255 --> 00:02:26,615 Speaker 3: and things that you know is that. I go, like, God, 47 00:02:26,655 --> 00:02:30,495 Speaker 3: I've forgotten about that. That's cool. What a story? Yeah, yeah, 48 00:02:30,615 --> 00:02:31,335 Speaker 3: now you've got it. 49 00:02:31,335 --> 00:02:34,335 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful book. So the Incredible Insects of Altaro. 50 00:02:35,375 --> 00:02:37,375 Speaker 2: There'll be an ICBN number on it. You'll be able 51 00:02:37,375 --> 00:02:39,895 Speaker 2: to look it up online to Papa Press. There you go. 52 00:02:40,295 --> 00:02:43,055 Speaker 3: That's right. It's done by pop up. Yeah, it's done. 53 00:02:42,855 --> 00:02:45,855 Speaker 2: By How brilliant And you're well, sir. 54 00:02:46,215 --> 00:02:49,375 Speaker 3: I'm good, thank you, we are. The best joke that 55 00:02:49,415 --> 00:02:52,095 Speaker 3: I've got here is that we now have Kiwi on 56 00:02:52,175 --> 00:02:53,215 Speaker 3: Wayaki Island. 57 00:02:53,495 --> 00:02:55,815 Speaker 2: Oh how fabulous? How was we at that release? 58 00:02:56,175 --> 00:02:58,895 Speaker 3: We put ten of them on Friday and it was 59 00:02:59,095 --> 00:03:01,575 Speaker 3: just fabulous. There were two hundred and three hundred people 60 00:03:01,615 --> 00:03:04,775 Speaker 3: at them, a right, it was full kids everywhere, all 61 00:03:04,815 --> 00:03:07,735 Speaker 3: my school kids from Wayakki there. It was just lovely 62 00:03:07,855 --> 00:03:11,495 Speaker 3: teachers and it was it was just unbelievable. God, those 63 00:03:11,495 --> 00:03:14,295 Speaker 3: birds looked like moat. 64 00:03:15,055 --> 00:03:21,175 Speaker 2: My Now. I know you've said this is reintroducing Kiwi, 65 00:03:21,175 --> 00:03:22,975 Speaker 2: but there's already Kiwi on the island. 66 00:03:23,335 --> 00:03:28,615 Speaker 3: No, no, no, this the story is even better because. 67 00:03:28,815 --> 00:03:31,495 Speaker 2: This is controversial because to be fair, and I don't 68 00:03:31,535 --> 00:03:33,215 Speaker 2: want to throw my sister under the bus, but I 69 00:03:33,255 --> 00:03:35,975 Speaker 2: will because when we were talking about it last weekend, 70 00:03:36,495 --> 00:03:40,055 Speaker 2: I saw my sister who happens slow on wayhiki uh, 71 00:03:40,095 --> 00:03:42,575 Speaker 2: and I said, there's going to be Kiwi released on way. 72 00:03:42,695 --> 00:03:46,415 Speaker 2: She said they're already here, and I went, that's awesome. Aha, No, 73 00:03:46,615 --> 00:03:48,055 Speaker 2: that's that's upset Mother's day. 74 00:03:50,255 --> 00:03:53,695 Speaker 3: They arrived on Friday. Sorry, And we've got fright so 75 00:03:53,975 --> 00:03:56,495 Speaker 3: forty coming in totals another thirty to come in the 76 00:03:56,535 --> 00:04:00,535 Speaker 3: next few years. There you go boom wow. Yeah, and 77 00:04:00,575 --> 00:04:03,575 Speaker 3: the kids are teaching everybody who does not have their 78 00:04:03,655 --> 00:04:06,095 Speaker 3: dog on a lead. That is real. 79 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:10,255 Speaker 2: Yeah, how fabulous. Oh, it would have been a great day, 80 00:04:10,255 --> 00:04:14,575 Speaker 2: I would imagine. Right, if my sister rings me, I'll 81 00:04:14,575 --> 00:04:15,295 Speaker 2: just get to talk to. 82 00:04:15,295 --> 00:04:18,055 Speaker 3: You a line because I'll ever go with it. 83 00:04:20,055 --> 00:04:22,975 Speaker 2: Oh, this is fabulous. Right, let's get to the call. Susan. 84 00:04:23,055 --> 00:04:27,095 Speaker 4: Good morning, Oh, good morning, Pee tell you. 85 00:04:27,735 --> 00:04:29,135 Speaker 2: Very well, Thank you, Susan. 86 00:04:30,015 --> 00:04:31,095 Speaker 4: And how's Rude. 87 00:04:31,415 --> 00:04:34,095 Speaker 3: Well, Rude is okay, he's fine. He's had a very 88 00:04:34,135 --> 00:04:38,415 Speaker 3: busy week so far, and it's absolutely gorgeous. 89 00:04:37,615 --> 00:04:41,695 Speaker 4: Oh that's great news. Now I have a rude I 90 00:04:41,735 --> 00:04:46,535 Speaker 4: have a aga panther plant that has secured itself between 91 00:04:46,575 --> 00:04:50,335 Speaker 4: the boards of a little supporting wall, and I'm trying 92 00:04:50,375 --> 00:04:52,095 Speaker 4: to get rid of it and pull it out, but 93 00:04:52,495 --> 00:04:55,935 Speaker 4: the roots are so embedded in. I mean it's only 94 00:04:55,935 --> 00:04:59,815 Speaker 4: about six inches long the leaves when they get and 95 00:04:59,855 --> 00:05:02,655 Speaker 4: I just keep breaking it off and I cannot prize 96 00:05:02,735 --> 00:05:04,775 Speaker 4: it out of the wall. So what can I put 97 00:05:04,815 --> 00:05:05,695 Speaker 4: on it to kill it? 98 00:05:06,495 --> 00:05:08,415 Speaker 3: You want to get rid of it, You don't mind 99 00:05:08,455 --> 00:05:09,215 Speaker 3: if it dies. 100 00:05:09,095 --> 00:05:11,815 Speaker 4: Right, No, I want to get rid of it. 101 00:05:12,575 --> 00:05:15,135 Speaker 3: No, No, not fair enough. Well, there are all sorts 102 00:05:15,135 --> 00:05:17,055 Speaker 3: of things that you can use, all sorts of if 103 00:05:17,095 --> 00:05:20,055 Speaker 3: you're like weed killers, that you can go from from 104 00:05:20,255 --> 00:05:23,735 Speaker 3: stuff like what do you call it? Round up? But 105 00:05:23,975 --> 00:05:26,495 Speaker 3: when you use that, for instance, always put in a 106 00:05:26,535 --> 00:05:30,015 Speaker 3: sticker that is a sur affectant that holds the round 107 00:05:30,095 --> 00:05:33,375 Speaker 3: up onto the leaves and gives it far more penetration. 108 00:05:33,735 --> 00:05:36,335 Speaker 3: And that means that those plants will die. If you 109 00:05:36,375 --> 00:05:39,975 Speaker 3: want to do it in a different way without nasty chemics. 110 00:05:39,695 --> 00:05:43,375 Speaker 4: I don't want to use round up unsusceptible to chemical size. 111 00:05:43,415 --> 00:05:49,495 Speaker 3: Sorry, Okay, try something like hit Man from wet Man Man. 112 00:05:50,215 --> 00:05:52,255 Speaker 3: Try try that, and you might have to do that 113 00:05:52,335 --> 00:05:54,895 Speaker 3: once or twice, but you'll find that there's a lot 114 00:05:54,935 --> 00:05:55,935 Speaker 3: more easier on you. 115 00:05:56,055 --> 00:05:59,495 Speaker 4: Then that's great. No, well, I wondered that hit man 116 00:05:59,575 --> 00:06:01,815 Speaker 4: was going to be strong enough. But as you say, 117 00:06:02,815 --> 00:06:05,335 Speaker 4: I do it, you know, a couple of times, even 118 00:06:05,335 --> 00:06:06,575 Speaker 4: till it's finally gone. 119 00:06:06,775 --> 00:06:09,375 Speaker 3: Yeah, because what heat man does, head men will actually 120 00:06:09,615 --> 00:06:13,495 Speaker 3: literally destroy the cells and that means that there is 121 00:06:13,535 --> 00:06:17,855 Speaker 3: no more photosynthesis and the plant can't get themselves better 122 00:06:17,895 --> 00:06:21,615 Speaker 3: again or avoid the hit man. If you like, you 123 00:06:21,735 --> 00:06:23,215 Speaker 3: did it a couple of times, and if you still 124 00:06:23,255 --> 00:06:25,095 Speaker 3: see green stuff, whack another lot on. 125 00:06:25,855 --> 00:06:30,415 Speaker 4: Like I just keep waking it on my weeds and 126 00:06:30,495 --> 00:06:33,335 Speaker 4: my shingle path and it does a fabulous job. It's 127 00:06:33,375 --> 00:06:37,135 Speaker 4: really really good. So it's quick I've got so thanks 128 00:06:37,135 --> 00:06:37,655 Speaker 4: for your help. 129 00:06:37,695 --> 00:06:40,695 Speaker 2: Good to hear very much, Suzan. Take care. We're going 130 00:06:40,735 --> 00:06:42,735 Speaker 2: to take short break. We'll talk to Lisa straight after 131 00:06:42,735 --> 00:06:43,255 Speaker 2: the break, and. 132 00:06:44,775 --> 00:06:45,255 Speaker 3: Is with us. 133 00:06:45,255 --> 00:06:48,535 Speaker 2: We're talking all things gardening and the wonderful world of bugs, 134 00:06:48,535 --> 00:06:52,215 Speaker 2: including insects, and actually what's the difference between insect and 135 00:06:52,215 --> 00:06:52,575 Speaker 2: a bug. 136 00:06:53,255 --> 00:06:55,695 Speaker 3: A bug is an insect. It's a group of insects 137 00:06:55,735 --> 00:06:59,175 Speaker 3: that is called a true bug, if you like, so 138 00:06:59,295 --> 00:07:01,615 Speaker 3: the stinct bug, for instance, the green stink thing. Yes, 139 00:07:02,095 --> 00:07:05,855 Speaker 3: is a true bug. An effort is a true bug. 140 00:07:06,375 --> 00:07:10,655 Speaker 3: But everybody else said that calls bugs bugs basically means 141 00:07:10,695 --> 00:07:14,455 Speaker 3: insects or invertebrates. But there's a special group, the hater 142 00:07:14,575 --> 00:07:17,535 Speaker 3: optera and the home opera as they're called, that are 143 00:07:17,695 --> 00:07:19,175 Speaker 3: true bugs. 144 00:07:19,975 --> 00:07:24,735 Speaker 2: See this is we love, This is fantastic, Lisa, good morning. 145 00:07:26,455 --> 00:07:30,055 Speaker 5: Hi, thanks for having the lawyer on about cross lessons. 146 00:07:31,215 --> 00:07:31,535 Speaker 2: Thank you. 147 00:07:32,935 --> 00:07:39,775 Speaker 5: And I've got two questions about ANSWERD. I'm curiosity. I 148 00:07:39,935 --> 00:07:42,655 Speaker 5: live in a basement flat which seems to be surrounded 149 00:07:42,655 --> 00:07:47,255 Speaker 5: by ends. I don't like to use insecticides, and my 150 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:51,055 Speaker 5: philosophy has been when I first moved in, there were 151 00:07:51,095 --> 00:07:54,975 Speaker 5: ants coming into the kitchen. I just make sure I'm 152 00:07:55,015 --> 00:07:57,215 Speaker 5: not feeding them. I don't leave any food out either. 153 00:07:57,495 --> 00:07:57,975 Speaker 3: You got it. 154 00:07:58,055 --> 00:08:02,415 Speaker 5: Yeah, every time I see a loan and or a 155 00:08:02,455 --> 00:08:06,135 Speaker 5: small group small handful of them, I squashed them, which 156 00:08:06,735 --> 00:08:09,975 Speaker 5: mean but it's to keep them away, and it appears 157 00:08:10,015 --> 00:08:12,975 Speaker 5: to be working. They don't. They seem to have pretty 158 00:08:13,015 --> 00:08:14,495 Speaker 5: much disappeared for. 159 00:08:14,415 --> 00:08:15,095 Speaker 2: The most part. 160 00:08:16,375 --> 00:08:20,095 Speaker 5: I'm wondering if they sort of send Joe antus by 161 00:08:20,135 --> 00:08:23,335 Speaker 5: itself and if it doesn't come back, they don't send anymore. 162 00:08:26,375 --> 00:08:27,935 Speaker 6: No problem. 163 00:08:28,535 --> 00:08:31,015 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, there you go. No, ants are basically creatures 164 00:08:31,015 --> 00:08:33,135 Speaker 3: that could live in your house, and they like to 165 00:08:33,255 --> 00:08:36,255 Speaker 3: actually clean up your kitchen because, as you well know, 166 00:08:36,335 --> 00:08:39,055 Speaker 3: you spill spaghetti bolonnais behind the stove and the ants 167 00:08:39,055 --> 00:08:41,495 Speaker 3: come there and say, oh, thanks, no worries, I'll clean 168 00:08:41,535 --> 00:08:43,415 Speaker 3: this up for you real quick because I like that 169 00:08:43,495 --> 00:08:45,655 Speaker 3: stuff too, and they take it back to the nesty, 170 00:08:45,695 --> 00:08:49,455 Speaker 3: feeding to the queen and everybody's happy. So quite often 171 00:08:49,535 --> 00:08:52,695 Speaker 3: ants are not a big deal, but some are, to 172 00:08:52,775 --> 00:08:55,815 Speaker 3: be quite honest, and you will need to do something like, 173 00:08:55,855 --> 00:08:59,455 Speaker 3: for instance, keep your sugar under tight control or your 174 00:08:59,455 --> 00:09:02,415 Speaker 3: protein under tight control so they can't even get there, 175 00:09:03,295 --> 00:09:03,855 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 176 00:09:04,215 --> 00:09:06,495 Speaker 5: That's just just that I'm not feeding them as the 177 00:09:06,535 --> 00:09:07,215 Speaker 5: main thing. 178 00:09:07,415 --> 00:09:09,815 Speaker 3: It's absolutely the main thing. Yes, you've got it. 179 00:09:10,455 --> 00:09:14,935 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I have a second curiosity question. Sometimes an 180 00:09:14,975 --> 00:09:17,295 Speaker 5: ants will get on your clothing the show and you 181 00:09:17,335 --> 00:09:20,015 Speaker 5: won't notice it, and you walk away, and you'll notice 182 00:09:20,055 --> 00:09:24,015 Speaker 5: it when you walk down the road or whatever I'm 183 00:09:24,055 --> 00:09:27,175 Speaker 5: wondering will and then you notice it and you brush 184 00:09:27,175 --> 00:09:29,415 Speaker 5: it off and you've moved it away from its nest. 185 00:09:29,935 --> 00:09:32,935 Speaker 5: Will that answervive or can it find? How far can 186 00:09:32,975 --> 00:09:35,695 Speaker 5: it go before it find its way back to its nest. 187 00:09:36,415 --> 00:09:40,335 Speaker 3: Only if it has a really good cell phone system 188 00:09:40,535 --> 00:09:45,055 Speaker 3: where it can find a way back. No, it usually 189 00:09:45,135 --> 00:09:46,655 Speaker 3: don't survive quite honest. 190 00:09:46,975 --> 00:09:51,175 Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting. Thank you, Lisa really appreciate it. And Mark, 191 00:09:51,695 --> 00:09:52,295 Speaker 2: good morning. 192 00:09:53,855 --> 00:10:01,455 Speaker 6: Yes, Hello, Hi Mike, Just a real quick one. I 193 00:10:01,615 --> 00:10:05,015 Speaker 6: live in a rural block and I love the birds. 194 00:10:05,055 --> 00:10:06,895 Speaker 6: I've got kettle around me and all that jairs and 195 00:10:06,975 --> 00:10:11,855 Speaker 6: a whole lot of section. Magpies have become quite a 196 00:10:12,095 --> 00:10:16,575 Speaker 6: problem for me recently, for not wishing to offend any 197 00:10:16,615 --> 00:10:19,095 Speaker 6: of other listeners. I won't tell you the things I've 198 00:10:19,135 --> 00:10:23,695 Speaker 6: done to try and rid them, but I'm at a 199 00:10:23,735 --> 00:10:26,455 Speaker 6: point where they come up to my windows. I've got 200 00:10:26,495 --> 00:10:29,615 Speaker 6: tinted double glazing. They tap on them first thing in 201 00:10:29,615 --> 00:10:33,495 Speaker 6: the morning, they do their poos everywhere. What is the 202 00:10:33,535 --> 00:10:38,135 Speaker 6: best repellent for these things that I really don't like. 203 00:10:38,815 --> 00:10:41,055 Speaker 3: Have you got some of those windows that are really 204 00:10:41,135 --> 00:10:44,455 Speaker 3: reflective because they keep the sunlight out in a really clever. 205 00:10:44,295 --> 00:10:49,375 Speaker 2: Way if they're tinted, Yeah, yes, exactly. 206 00:10:49,895 --> 00:10:52,535 Speaker 3: Yeah, Because what they're doing is they see they see 207 00:10:52,575 --> 00:10:55,575 Speaker 3: themselves in the window, and they think it's somebody else 208 00:10:56,055 --> 00:10:58,615 Speaker 3: and they are starting a fight. That's the tapping. 209 00:11:00,895 --> 00:11:04,655 Speaker 6: Okay, so short of changing all my glazing, how do 210 00:11:04,735 --> 00:11:05,975 Speaker 6: I get rid of them? 211 00:11:06,415 --> 00:11:08,095 Speaker 3: Go and live in a different house. 212 00:11:12,935 --> 00:11:13,055 Speaker 6: Now? 213 00:11:13,135 --> 00:11:16,255 Speaker 3: But I mean that that's exactly what happens. There's very 214 00:11:16,295 --> 00:11:18,775 Speaker 3: little you can do through this when you've got one, 215 00:11:18,975 --> 00:11:21,855 Speaker 3: I know, those less classes, because those things quite often 216 00:11:23,295 --> 00:11:26,575 Speaker 3: other birds come there, fentels do the same thing. They 217 00:11:26,615 --> 00:11:31,015 Speaker 3: fight with their own image in the window. That's great. 218 00:11:31,775 --> 00:11:33,455 Speaker 3: There's very little you could do about that. 219 00:11:34,975 --> 00:11:37,335 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well but the bummery. 220 00:11:40,215 --> 00:11:42,695 Speaker 6: Hey, look I really love and I appreciate your advice. 221 00:11:44,375 --> 00:11:47,175 Speaker 3: Good good, I know what you mean. Sorry about that. 222 00:11:47,815 --> 00:11:48,455 Speaker 3: It is like that. 223 00:11:48,935 --> 00:11:51,455 Speaker 2: It's hard the way because I mean I had sort 224 00:11:51,495 --> 00:11:53,815 Speaker 2: of the exact opposite this week where I went outside 225 00:11:53,895 --> 00:11:56,095 Speaker 2: and I spent a couple of minutes just listening to 226 00:11:56,135 --> 00:11:59,495 Speaker 2: this cacophony of sound as the ties gathered in the 227 00:11:59,535 --> 00:12:03,015 Speaker 2: bodic poetry and you know, just a cluster of them 228 00:12:03,215 --> 00:12:06,535 Speaker 2: loud and chatting and talking and arguing, and that's a thing. 229 00:12:06,935 --> 00:12:08,335 Speaker 2: It was just delightful. 230 00:12:08,855 --> 00:12:12,135 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. It is wonderful. Yeah. Now I'm looking 231 00:12:12,175 --> 00:12:14,735 Speaker 3: at the moment that magpies too, because some of those 232 00:12:14,735 --> 00:12:19,215 Speaker 3: magpies that I've got a feeling magpies are quite rotten 233 00:12:19,255 --> 00:12:23,895 Speaker 3: predators of certain creatures, especially other insects and things like that. 234 00:12:23,975 --> 00:12:26,735 Speaker 3: So we actually have to keep an eye out for 235 00:12:26,775 --> 00:12:31,135 Speaker 3: these Australian magpies because they are doing a bit of 236 00:12:31,175 --> 00:12:34,055 Speaker 3: damage in our ecosystems. Yeah, to be quite honest. 237 00:12:33,815 --> 00:12:36,415 Speaker 2: It's not a little bit like the debate around Canada geese. 238 00:12:36,935 --> 00:12:41,695 Speaker 2: That's right, yeah, right, a species that tends to dominate 239 00:12:41,775 --> 00:12:44,735 Speaker 2: the ecosystem and then becomes problem. 240 00:12:44,335 --> 00:12:47,295 Speaker 3: That's right. But the cool thing about the magpies is 241 00:12:47,295 --> 00:12:49,815 Speaker 3: that they don't they pull. But that's not what they 242 00:12:49,895 --> 00:12:51,895 Speaker 3: That's not what I'm interested in. I'm interested in the 243 00:12:51,975 --> 00:12:55,335 Speaker 3: stuff the pellets that they throw out of their mouths 244 00:12:55,895 --> 00:12:59,015 Speaker 3: of all the food that they've tried to digest and 245 00:12:59,055 --> 00:13:01,575 Speaker 3: they can't digest, the skins of insects, for instance, and 246 00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:04,975 Speaker 3: the legs of insects. They make pellets like owls do. 247 00:13:06,495 --> 00:13:06,575 Speaker 1: That. 248 00:13:07,135 --> 00:13:09,935 Speaker 3: And so sometimes I work with kids and we find 249 00:13:09,975 --> 00:13:12,335 Speaker 3: those bellets and then we wash those bellets and clean 250 00:13:12,375 --> 00:13:15,895 Speaker 3: them and find out exactly what that particular makepie has 251 00:13:15,935 --> 00:13:19,615 Speaker 3: been eating. And that is a really cool thing to 252 00:13:19,655 --> 00:13:21,415 Speaker 3: do in the school. Actually, there you. 253 00:13:21,375 --> 00:13:29,095 Speaker 2: Goyah fabulous MICHAELA good morning to you Hi, Mikayla, Hello. 254 00:13:28,895 --> 00:13:30,055 Speaker 6: Good morning, Good morning. 255 00:13:31,135 --> 00:13:31,615 Speaker 7: Is it going? 256 00:13:33,535 --> 00:13:34,575 Speaker 3: What can I do for you? 257 00:13:35,295 --> 00:13:37,495 Speaker 7: Good morning. I've just got a few questions this morning. 258 00:13:37,615 --> 00:13:40,415 Speaker 7: I've got some Climatus seeds and seeds and raise up, 259 00:13:40,455 --> 00:13:43,135 Speaker 7: so I've got about six of them. I'm just wondering 260 00:13:43,175 --> 00:13:45,535 Speaker 7: what the best climate is for them in the shade 261 00:13:45,735 --> 00:13:46,575 Speaker 7: and the sun. 262 00:13:47,695 --> 00:13:51,095 Speaker 3: A clematis, in my opinion is roots in the shade 263 00:13:51,815 --> 00:13:54,655 Speaker 3: and then later when it grows up and the heads 264 00:13:54,815 --> 00:13:55,415 Speaker 3: in the sun. 265 00:13:56,415 --> 00:13:59,015 Speaker 7: Excellent. Yeah, because I've actually been successful. I just put 266 00:13:59,055 --> 00:14:01,575 Speaker 7: some random seeds down about six to eight months ago 267 00:14:01,615 --> 00:14:04,455 Speaker 7: and I've got about six seedlings. Are super excited about 268 00:14:04,455 --> 00:14:05,895 Speaker 7: that one exactly. 269 00:14:06,095 --> 00:14:08,735 Speaker 3: And I put mine in a dead in a dead 270 00:14:08,815 --> 00:14:12,655 Speaker 3: birch tree, and that thing is actually there's a ball 271 00:14:12,815 --> 00:14:16,695 Speaker 3: of white flowers of our native Climatis there, which is 272 00:14:17,015 --> 00:14:20,215 Speaker 3: probably a meter and a half in diameter. It's huge. 273 00:14:20,695 --> 00:14:23,775 Speaker 3: But the problem is but yeah, but the problem is 274 00:14:23,935 --> 00:14:26,495 Speaker 3: I should have taken a bit of a hardier tree 275 00:14:26,615 --> 00:14:31,055 Speaker 3: because that birch will go this year maybe next year, 276 00:14:31,215 --> 00:14:33,335 Speaker 3: and I have to start all over again. 277 00:14:33,855 --> 00:14:36,855 Speaker 7: Oh what a shame. But I've actually put them. I've 278 00:14:36,855 --> 00:14:40,655 Speaker 7: actually put them in a future pot plant and surprisingly 279 00:14:40,735 --> 00:14:43,455 Speaker 7: that's come up. Are they great mates to breed with? 280 00:14:43,935 --> 00:14:46,375 Speaker 3: No, nothing to do with mates. It's just they can 281 00:14:46,375 --> 00:14:48,295 Speaker 3: climb up. It's easy. That's all they want to do. 282 00:14:48,335 --> 00:14:49,095 Speaker 7: That's amazing. 283 00:14:49,575 --> 00:14:53,095 Speaker 3: Check them outside. But try a tree that is alive 284 00:14:53,175 --> 00:14:55,615 Speaker 3: if you like, and not do dense so they can 285 00:14:55,655 --> 00:14:56,095 Speaker 3: climb up. 286 00:14:56,215 --> 00:15:00,095 Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely so, I'm so excited. When should I move them? 287 00:15:00,215 --> 00:15:03,695 Speaker 7: When would be the best time to Right now? Now's 288 00:15:03,695 --> 00:15:07,095 Speaker 7: a good time. Amazing, that's fantastic, Thank you so much. 289 00:15:07,135 --> 00:15:10,015 Speaker 7: And I thought I've seen a big white tail on 290 00:15:10,055 --> 00:15:12,055 Speaker 7: my wall last night and they live on. 291 00:15:12,015 --> 00:15:12,775 Speaker 5: The third story. 292 00:15:12,855 --> 00:15:15,415 Speaker 7: I was out having a cigarette on the patio. I thought, 293 00:15:15,455 --> 00:15:17,935 Speaker 7: I've seen a big white tail. Russian got the fly 294 00:15:18,095 --> 00:15:18,895 Speaker 7: spray killed it? 295 00:15:19,375 --> 00:15:22,215 Speaker 3: No, no, no no, you give them to the kids 296 00:15:22,255 --> 00:15:27,575 Speaker 3: to take this school cricket. Oh go on. The myth 297 00:15:27,735 --> 00:15:30,375 Speaker 3: of white tails is incredible. The mess. 298 00:15:33,215 --> 00:15:36,535 Speaker 7: Really amazing. I would love this book. 299 00:15:36,655 --> 00:15:36,855 Speaker 4: Road. 300 00:15:37,135 --> 00:15:41,295 Speaker 7: I listened to you every Sunday morning. Absolutely amazing. 301 00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:43,615 Speaker 2: Qualifies you as a winner. 302 00:15:43,975 --> 00:15:47,055 Speaker 7: There you go, amazing, Thank you so much. 303 00:15:48,495 --> 00:15:50,695 Speaker 2: Stay on the line, get your details, don't go anywhere. 304 00:15:51,375 --> 00:15:51,615 Speaker 7: Thanks. 305 00:15:52,695 --> 00:15:55,015 Speaker 2: It is a wonderful book. The incredible Insects of al 306 00:15:55,095 --> 00:15:58,895 Speaker 2: Taor and and look, I agree with you. I think 307 00:15:58,895 --> 00:16:03,215 Speaker 2: this book should be in every school library. Yes, particularly 308 00:16:03,255 --> 00:16:04,175 Speaker 2: primary schools. 309 00:16:04,375 --> 00:16:07,895 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, And you keep on reading stuff. It's great 310 00:16:07,935 --> 00:16:09,895 Speaker 3: and it sells you. For instance, as belong to the 311 00:16:09,975 --> 00:16:13,455 Speaker 3: group of Hymenoptera, that means they're related to bees, wasps, 312 00:16:13,695 --> 00:16:16,415 Speaker 3: and saw flies, which are not flies at all. But 313 00:16:16,495 --> 00:16:20,055 Speaker 3: also anyway, go on. 314 00:16:20,575 --> 00:16:24,375 Speaker 2: Hey, quick text before we go, well Wellington residents. Recent 315 00:16:24,415 --> 00:16:27,535 Speaker 2: southerly is dumped a lot of salt on trees and plants. 316 00:16:27,815 --> 00:16:30,215 Speaker 2: The trees are dropping their leaves. Anything you can do 317 00:16:30,255 --> 00:16:30,535 Speaker 2: about it? 318 00:16:31,055 --> 00:16:34,535 Speaker 3: Yes, that was when it was when the salt was deposited. 319 00:16:34,735 --> 00:16:36,855 Speaker 3: So when you get an enormous storm and the salt 320 00:16:36,895 --> 00:16:39,775 Speaker 3: goes on that just holds it off, honestly, as soon 321 00:16:39,775 --> 00:16:42,895 Speaker 3: as you can, if you because most people in Wellington 322 00:16:42,935 --> 00:16:45,575 Speaker 3: will know when it is what kind of wind will 323 00:16:45,575 --> 00:16:48,015 Speaker 3: harm their guarden. Just chuck it off with a bit 324 00:16:48,015 --> 00:16:51,495 Speaker 3: of water and you will actually save your plants. 325 00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:55,295 Speaker 2: How interesting. Yeah, okay, so just get out there and 326 00:16:55,375 --> 00:16:58,455 Speaker 2: because typically you go well, if it's you know, stormy, 327 00:16:58,615 --> 00:17:01,535 Speaker 2: you've got rain and salt. But in this instance, it's 328 00:17:01,655 --> 00:17:03,375 Speaker 2: just the wind driven salt. 329 00:17:03,615 --> 00:17:06,095 Speaker 3: Wind driven salt. Yeah, especially if you leave close by 330 00:17:06,135 --> 00:17:11,055 Speaker 3: to get rid of it and you'll find it'll work. 331 00:17:11,255 --> 00:17:15,175 Speaker 2: Hey, just by the way, today marks eleven years of 332 00:17:15,295 --> 00:17:18,815 Speaker 2: the show, so thank you again for your contribution over 333 00:17:18,855 --> 00:17:21,735 Speaker 2: that time. It's an absolute delight, so thank you mate. 334 00:17:21,975 --> 00:17:22,935 Speaker 3: It's always good mate. 335 00:17:23,575 --> 00:17:27,095 Speaker 2: Take care all the best, right, enjoy your day. I'm 336 00:17:27,135 --> 00:17:30,455 Speaker 2: going to go down and see the old distinguished Gentleman's ride. 337 00:17:30,775 --> 00:17:33,135 Speaker 2: I was going to ride, but my brother's taken the 338 00:17:33,175 --> 00:17:35,695 Speaker 2: bike instead. What's his bike? So that's fair enough anyway, 339 00:17:35,775 --> 00:17:38,175 Speaker 2: have a great week guys, and we'll catch you next Sunday. 340 00:17:38,255 --> 00:17:38,615 Speaker 2: Take care. 341 00:17:40,535 --> 00:17:45,935 Speaker 1: Thanks for more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. 342 00:17:46,055 --> 00:17:48,695 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talk sa'd be on Sunday mornings 343 00:17:48,695 --> 00:17:51,575 Speaker 1: from Sex, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.