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Speaker 2: away in nineteen seventy seven. I'm Jason Pine. The show

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Speaker 2: is put together and produced by Andy McDonnell. We are

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Speaker 2: talking sport with you until three. We kick off today

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Speaker 2: with the Ashes Australia tu nil up after comprehensive winds

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Speaker 2: in Perth and in Brisbane. The Third Test starts in

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Speaker 2: Adelaide on Thursday. England are staring down the barrel of

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Speaker 2: losing the Ashes before Christmas and the very real possibility

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Speaker 2: Plenty of chat about a couple of things to do

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Speaker 2: And the fact that England have spent a few days

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Speaker 2: cricket fans and a few former players. BBC Chief Cricket commentator,

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Speaker 2: respected cricket voices, Jonathan Agnew leads us off today. He's

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Speaker 2: standing by for a chat and then I want to

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Speaker 2: talk some Ashes cricket with you. Are you locked into

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Speaker 2: this series like I am? I absolutely love the Ashes

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Speaker 2: England cricketing matters closer to home are very very good

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Speaker 2: Test ABO this week in Wellington for Canterbury wicket keeper

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Speaker 2: for the Third Test? Mitch Hay on the show after

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Speaker 2: one o'clock. Other matters around today, the All Whites twenty

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Speaker 2: Australia have a two meal lead in the Ashes after

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Speaker 3: Can he win him with a six?

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Speaker 4: They go ahead two dearly. One of your most hype

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Speaker 2: Nate wick it when so the series moves to Adelaide

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Speaker 2: a huge pleasure to welcome to the show, BBC Chief

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Speaker 2: Cricket commentator, former England fast bowler and one of the

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Speaker 2: world's most respected cricket voices, Jonathan Agnew Jonathan, thank you

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Speaker 2: for joining us. I read your excellent BBC column on

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Speaker 5: I think it's a very very hard Salem. And part

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Speaker 5: So ten day breaks between test matches are not new.

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Speaker 5: They were just used in different ways. They were used.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't sound like rocket science, does it, But instead

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Speaker 5: six days of test cricket, you know, does that constitute

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Speaker 5: You you you earn, You earn days off like that

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Speaker 5: So anyway, look, I think we've all had our say

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Speaker 6: This is what they've chosen to do.

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Speaker 5: They've chosen to ignore everybody who said this can't be right.

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Speaker 6: And who knows. They might have a miracle.

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Speaker 5: They might, They might win the next three Test matches,

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Speaker 5: don't I don't mind him being angry at all. Is

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Speaker 5: what every right to be angry. So it was it

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Speaker 5: was a you know, it was a very testy interview,

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Speaker 5: which is fine. You know, he walks off the field

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Speaker 7: I don't know who the hell's ever going to beat

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Speaker 7: South Africa now, but we'll have a chance and we

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Speaker 7: get a few of our players back.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a good comparison, James, It's a great

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Speaker 2: comparison because it also you know, if you think of

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks teams of the past and we compare

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Speaker 2: it to Australian cricket team. It's when someone goes down,

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Speaker 2: they just bring somebody else in, you know. I mean

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Speaker 2: remember the days of when Michael Hussey made the Australian

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Speaker 2: cricket team for the first time. It's got to have

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Speaker 2: ten thousand first class runs before he even got close

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Speaker 2: to the Test mental if someone scored ten thousand first

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Speaker 2: class runs in any other country in the world, they'd

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Speaker 2: be in the Test team before they's scored half that many.

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Speaker 2: You know, They're just an absolute factory over there.

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Speaker 7: Eh oh yeah, yeah, it's like it's insane really the

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Speaker 7: talent they've got. And but the amazing thing is New Zealand,

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Speaker 7: like all South Africa coming up, they've got some amazing

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Speaker 7: tricket players coming on now. Unfortunately as well so, but

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Speaker 7: New Zealand has got some amazing players. And if we

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Speaker 7: can get our selectors to put politics out of it

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Speaker 7: and select on people that are playing in form. You

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Speaker 7: tell me who won the two games against it, well

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Speaker 7: I can tell you to me who won the two

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Speaker 7: games against England yet a team sport. But Blair Tickner

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Speaker 7: took four wickets in four wickets in those last two

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Speaker 7: one days when he is brought into the team because

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Speaker 7: of an injury and then he made either twenty runs

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Speaker 7: or you know, pick those runs off, which we could

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Speaker 7: have quite easily lost a game. And you have to, like,

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Speaker 7: I'll just be honest with you, there's always politics and

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Speaker 7: sports and there's always favorites. And if the selectors can

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Speaker 7: keep that out, we've got some you know, like even

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Speaker 7: this Michael Ray who's just come and like he should

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Speaker 7: have been given a chance some other time and you know,

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Speaker 7: just give you give these players a go and then

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Speaker 7: gee they can perform. And like that ticker like he

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Speaker 7: nothing was happening in that last one day for us.

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Speaker 7: They were what sixty seventy eighty for none and he

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Speaker 7: comes on and you know, bang two wickets and Mirkeel

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Speaker 7: Ray takes a couple other wickets and yeah, the other

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Speaker 7: two bowlers were exhausted from the last game, so it

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Speaker 7: could have given them four overs each and they just

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Speaker 7: brought the two fresh legs in and and it's here,

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Speaker 7: like you know, the Bears ball stuff, like they try to,

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Speaker 7: you know, get into teams. But that's what you have

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Speaker 7: to do nowadays, is you know, take every opportunity to

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Speaker 7: you know, get on top of a team and because

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Speaker 7: it's such fine margins in the sports, because it's you know,

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Speaker 7: any team can kind of went on the day a

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Speaker 7: lot of the titan.

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Speaker 2: So but if yeah, James, I'm going to move because

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Speaker 2: I've got a couple of other callers to get to.

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Speaker 2: So good to talk to you though, mate, You've got

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Speaker 2: such a depth of cricket knowledge. Like Jonathan Agnew, I

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Speaker 2: feel like I listened to you all day, mate, talk

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Speaker 2: about it. Please call back any time and thanks for

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Speaker 2: your kind words as well. We love bringing you the

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Speaker 2: content that we do. Great to have your your analysis

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Speaker 2: of the cricket. And you're right about Mitchell Stark. What

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Speaker 2: a player and as you will also have noticed, he's

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Speaker 2: not bad with the bat either. What did he get

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Speaker 2: the other day seventy seventy seven? He's a one man team.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, James, thanks for calling mate. Twenty seven

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Speaker 2: away from one talking ashes, oh eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Cold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Paine

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Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home.

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Speaker 2: Milder News Talks to Baby News Talks a B twenty

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Speaker 2: four to one Talking ashes. He's Glen McGraw on bears Ball.

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Speaker 2: Former Australian fast baller Glen mcgrah on the bears ball approach.

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Speaker 9: It might be I like the concept of basball, but

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Speaker 9: from trying to get rid of pressure, no negativity and

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Speaker 9: no accountability is what I don't like. I like the concept,

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Speaker 9: but you've got to enjoy the pressure and that's when

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Speaker 9: you left and there's an accountable to yourself and to

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Speaker 9: the team.

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Speaker 6: You add that and that's a perfect game.

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Speaker 2: That's Glen Magraw, one of the greatest to ever do it.

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Speaker 10: Dallas hime mate, Yeah, Hi, finally I've great to hear

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Speaker 10: agis on.

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Speaker 11: What a lovely voice.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, I was leading back a Machier listening

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Speaker 2: to him and almost forgot my next question. I could

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Speaker 2: just listen to the bloke all day.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's agency. He seems as young as he was

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Speaker 10: when I first thirty years ago or yeah, it's I

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Speaker 10: don't know, it's just it seems very youthful. But he

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Speaker 10: must be getting on. But I do disagree with him,

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Speaker 10: and I agree with you that this Australian team is

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Speaker 10: better than the English team. And we saw the warning

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Speaker 10: signs when England came here first, didn't he. They didn't

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Speaker 10: exactly play well here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a T twenty. I thought that

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Speaker 2: was just them being in T twenty mode Dallas, and

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Speaker 2: you know, as it turns out, there's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of difference the way they approach that is approached Test cricket.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I expected a lot more of them, I

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Speaker 2: must say in these first two Test matches.

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Speaker 10: I think they the English press tend to big up

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Speaker 10: their own sports teams, whether it's football, whether it's rugby union,

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Speaker 10: whether it's tennis, anything that the Poms play. The press

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Speaker 10: there they also tear them down.

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Speaker 2: Like they're brutal. They are brutal. Brutal, Yeah, the tabloid

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Speaker 2: press in particular in the UK, Yeah, brutal.

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Speaker 10: They picked them up as well that when things go well.

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Speaker 10: I remember doing England doing the lap of honor when

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Speaker 10: they scored a drawer against the Warbacks, things like that.

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Speaker 12: So as.

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Speaker 10: Where as Australia, it's like we talked about yesterday, you

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Speaker 10: have to earn your stripes. In Australia, you come through

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Speaker 10: the Sheffield Shield. You have to be scoring runs and

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Speaker 10: it's a hard apprenticeship to get into the Aussie team,

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Speaker 10: you know, and like we saw yesterday, it's starting to

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Speaker 10: happen here as well. That is good for New Zealand

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Speaker 10: crickets that they're coming through. So yeah, I would rate

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Speaker 10: this Australians. You know, there's I mean, how many of

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Speaker 10: the English players would you have in a combined combined team?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great filter to look at it, great filter to

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Speaker 2: look at it through Dallas. I often do this when

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Speaker 2: you're comparing teams. Joe Root obviously would be there. I

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Speaker 2: think Ben Stokes probably would have a case. Other than

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Speaker 2: those two, maybe Joffra Archer, if he bowled quick all

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Speaker 2: the time, might be there. But I don't know that

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Speaker 2: there's too many others.

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Speaker 10: Let's talk about Brandon for a second. You know, of

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Speaker 10: course we love him because he's kid here. But remember

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Speaker 10: the World Cup Final twenty fifteen. Brandon comes out, you know,

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Speaker 10: we were so hopeful would be and the first over

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Speaker 10: Brandon plays basball and who's a bowler? Mitchell Stark sorts

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Speaker 10: them out on the third ball, wasn't it? And our

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Speaker 10: hopes just plummeted because that sums up the bas ball

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Speaker 10: approach where McCollum played like that, he played he was

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Speaker 10: a gambler, you know, and often it came off because

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Speaker 10: he had the natural eye and the talent. But as

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Speaker 10: Aga says, that doesn't work for some of the some

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Speaker 10: of the other players who actually need practice. So and

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Speaker 10: that day we all felt let down by to be

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Speaker 10: frank by Brandon because that put us on the back

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Speaker 10: foot after having work so hard to get into that final.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, I think, hmm, it's a one trick pony

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Speaker 10: that Brendan brings to the coaching the way he played

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Speaker 10: cricket himself.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, he's always been a dasher, has any

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Speaker 2: dallas You're so right, and yeah that I guess what

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Speaker 2: you have to do is if you accept the absolute

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Speaker 2: diamonds that that approach comes up with. And remember Brenda

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Speaker 2: mccllum's final testings. What do you get a one hundred

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Speaker 2: off about thirty five balls or something, you know, the

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Speaker 2: fastest Test century of all time. You know, some of

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Speaker 2: his batting during that World Cup that you've just talked

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Speaker 2: about was brilliant. I remember him getting seventy off about

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Speaker 2: twenty balls in Wellington against England. You know, if you

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Speaker 2: accept the diamonds, I guess you also have to accept

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Speaker 2: the rocks of an approach like that, And that's why

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Speaker 2: I said, you know, if it's not working over over

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Speaker 2: a period of time, and I think two test matches

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Speaker 2: is a decent sample size, then I think you have

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Speaker 2: to tweak it, don't you at least make small adjustments

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think the reason brendan And played like that

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Speaker 10: was his defense wasn't really up to it. His defense

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Speaker 10: was the weakest part of his batting, to be honest.

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Speaker 10: But he attacked, and so he made a weakness into

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Speaker 10: a strength because he attacked every ball. And his philosophy

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Speaker 10: in coaching is every ball is a scoring opportunity.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I remember him saying once. I remember him saying once.

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Speaker 2: I think I've told the story. He said, if you

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Speaker 2: need two hundred of eighty balls, all you have to

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Speaker 2: do is hit twenty of those balls for six and

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Speaker 2: then you only need eighty off sixty. That was his philosophy.

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Speaker 2: You know, he just did the maths and said, I mean, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: it's not as easy for the rest of us to

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Speaker 2: score those runs, Dallas. But that was the way that

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Speaker 2: he approached the game. And you have to take the

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Speaker 2: good with the bad when it comes to that good

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Speaker 2: to chat. I got to move on to a couple

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Speaker 2: of other callers, but let's have a chat next weekend

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Speaker 2: when Adelaide is hopefully still going. Always enjoy chat cricket

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Speaker 2: with you. I'm seventy two living in New Zealand, says

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Speaker 2: this text. I've been here for fifty years and a

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Speaker 2: total England fan and Test match fan. I'm embarrassed by

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Speaker 2: the rubbish England are presenting as Test match cricket. Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Agnive is right, Jeff Boycott is right in this statement.

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Speaker 2: This England team couldn't win an egg Cup. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much, Nick.

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Speaker 13: Hi, oh hi Jason, how are you very good?

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Speaker 2: Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 13: I am so looking forward to Adelaide. I should have

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Speaker 13: been there but I couldn't get there. But I think

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Speaker 13: it's going to be three nil at the end of

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Speaker 13: that and I just don't see resistance and that termination

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Speaker 13: to fight for the Test and the Australian bowlers. I

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Speaker 13: just state, Tackler, I mean start comings. You know that

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Speaker 13: they are just way above the English guys.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Nick. I just think man for man and

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Speaker 2: Dallas's points a great one. If you if you stacked

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Speaker 2: up a best eleven across the two teams. I think

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Speaker 2: maybe two, potentially three England players make a best eleven.

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Speaker 2: The rest are Australians and Mitchell Stark and he is

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Speaker 2: just he's bowling in a different stratosphere right now.

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Speaker 13: It is a He's just outstanding. And then you ain't

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Speaker 13: Cummings at the other end, Wow, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And Hazel's not even there. You imagine if he was there,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 13: And then Lines isn't even there at the moment.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, but.

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Speaker 13: Lines is one of the best spinners in the world.

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Speaker 13: Who's sitting on the bench.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, an embarrassment of riches. I think they call

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Speaker 2: it nick and look I feel the same way you do.

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Speaker 2: I hope that we're both wrong. I hope England, do

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Speaker 2: you know, do find some intestinal fortitude and a bit

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Speaker 2: of resilience and just resolved to make it a lot

643
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Speaker 2: harder for Australia what the West Indies did in christ Church,

644
00:34:14,107 --> 00:34:16,787
Speaker 2: albeit against a depleted New Zealand bowling attack. But they

645
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Speaker 2: came out and they said no, we're not moving and

646
00:34:20,267 --> 00:34:25,347
Speaker 2: they stubbornly saw that test out. England have to get

647
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Speaker 2: a result in this Test, beat a drawer one otherwise

648
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Speaker 2: the Ashes are gone again and it's very very hard

649
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Speaker 2: for England to win in Australia. I think the last

650
00:34:32,667 --> 00:34:34,987
Speaker 2: three series have been five nil, five nil and four nil.

651
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Speaker 2: They hardly ever win there. So get your heads down

652
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Speaker 2: and at least make it difficult for Australia. Good to chat, Nick, Dave,

653
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Speaker 2: hold their mate with you after this sixteen away from

654
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Speaker 2: one New Stalks head be you be the TMO.

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Hin and GJ. Garvnerholmes, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be twelve to one Gazz on Test Kid, Jason,

659
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Speaker 2: I absolutely love Test cricket, especially the Ashes. So does

660
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Speaker 2: my eighteen year old son. His Christmas present this year

661
00:35:08,347 --> 00:35:10,587
Speaker 2: and an end of high school present, is the two

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Speaker 2: of us flying to Melbourne on Christmas Day to see

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Speaker 2: the boxing day MCG test. We cannot wait. Cheers Gaza

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Speaker 2: and George in Queens Down. Gaza. That is father of

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Speaker 2: the Year stuff. Mate. That is just awesome. Need to

666
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Speaker 2: get you on the phone as well when you're over there, Dave, Hi,

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Speaker 2: thanks for holding.

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Speaker 12: Look look look at us New Zealand and South Africa.

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Speaker 12: But when they went to India. Before they went to India,

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Speaker 12: they had matches in Sri Lanka, so they knew what

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Speaker 12: the conditions are like when they went to India. So

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Speaker 12: we us on South Africa want a Test series in India,

673
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Speaker 12: so we were prepared. If you're going to go to Australia,

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Speaker 12: you have some build of matches prepared. And stupid, stupid

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Speaker 12: England turned it down and they kept playing playing one

676
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Speaker 12: day shots and they don't spend time in little and

677
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Speaker 12: they keep that English but that they are approached by

678
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Speaker 12: Bendam just won't work in Australia. You have to spend

679
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Speaker 12: time a little. You can't keep see what the wigt's like.

680
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Speaker 12: You can't be bang bangs trying to hit the wall

681
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Speaker 12: before all the time. It's bad approach. It just doesn't

682
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Speaker 12: work in test cricket.

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Speaker 2: Well also, Dave, Also, Dave, you talk about preparation. They

684
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Speaker 2: could have organized a game in between the second and

685
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Speaker 2: third tests. They might have had this trip book to now.

686
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Speaker 2: So that's call. But when you two kneel down, I

687
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Speaker 2: think you changed your plans. I think you're saying, you

688
00:36:30,347 --> 00:36:33,147
Speaker 2: know what we probably need to be playing some cricket

689
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Speaker 2: rather than having a couple of beers and lying on

690
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Speaker 2: the beach beach.

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Speaker 12: And you see, when we go to Australia too, we

692
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Speaker 12: were left to be prepared to aren't we this year

693
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Speaker 12: where we go to Australia have some matches because we've

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Speaker 12: got four Tests in Australia too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I remember last time, Dave, we went there twenty

696
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Speaker 2: nineteen and we had no warm up games and we

697
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Speaker 2: lost all three Test matches by significant margins. I'm not

698
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Speaker 2: sure what the schedule is before we go to Australia

699
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Speaker 2: at the back end of next year, at about this time,

700
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Speaker 2: isn't it back end of next year? But I certainly

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Speaker 2: hope that there's a couple of games playing and you know,

702
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Speaker 2: reball games planned once we get there.

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Speaker 12: New Zealand got to New Zealand, cricket got to have

704
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Speaker 12: some warm up games and maybe you've got to ask

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Speaker 12: captain if we're going to have some warm games. I

706
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Speaker 12: hope we do, because you know, it pays to have

707
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Speaker 12: warmart games. And England are going to look stupid. You know,

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Speaker 12: if they get beaten five nil, I can't see them

709
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Speaker 12: coming back. They don't change it approach, So you know

710
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Speaker 12: you can't keep bang banged.

711
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Speaker 11: You've got to spend any.

712
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Speaker 12: Game of Test cricket time in the middle, get yes

713
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Speaker 12: to the wicket, not playing keep the ball for all

714
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Speaker 12: the time in that pineyer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave, you're so right good good thoughts, well articulated, mate.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think, like I said before, I don't

717
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Speaker 2: mind a cavalier approach as long as it's working. You know,

718
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Speaker 2: look sports about taking risks, about doing things that the

719
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Speaker 2: opposition do not expect. And I think when Brenda McCullum

720
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Speaker 2: took over, and by the way, he hates the phrase

721
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Speaker 2: bas ball, he doesn't want it to be about him,

722
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Speaker 2: but it's been coined that I think we all understand

723
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Speaker 2: what it means. It means playing a very positive brand

724
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Speaker 2: of cricket when you're batting, trying to score off as

725
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Speaker 2: many deliveries as you can, effectively taking a white ball

726
00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:28,907
Speaker 2: approach to Test cricket. And I think when he and

727
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Speaker 2: Ben Stokes took leadership of the team, what was that

728
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Speaker 2: three years ago? I think it was probably needed not

729
00:38:34,787 --> 00:38:37,947
Speaker 2: just by the England cricket team, but by Test cricket

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Speaker 2: full stop.

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Speaker 14: I think it.

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Speaker 2: Needed in reinvigoration and bas ball did that. It reinvigorated

733
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Speaker 2: the Test game and all of a sudden there was

734
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Speaker 2: excitement about red ball cricket again when there's been so

735
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Speaker 2: much excitement around and almost an exclusive focus on white

736
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Speaker 2: ball cricket. All of a sudden people were watching Test

737
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Speaker 2: matches again because there was excitement in thee didn't know

738
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Speaker 2: what was going to happen. But yes, still have to

739
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Speaker 2: sit on the foundation of what Test cricket is. It's

740
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Speaker 2: a battle across five days. England were in a good

741
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Speaker 2: position in Perth. What were they in their second innings.

742
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Speaker 2: They were one hundred runs ahead and one down in

743
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Speaker 2: their second innings, so they could have built a lead

744
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Speaker 2: of two two fifty three hundred for Australia to chase. Instead,

745
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Speaker 2: they went through this period they lost about nine for

746
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Speaker 2: ninety and all of a sudden the Test match has changed.

747
00:39:36,467 --> 00:39:40,267
Speaker 2: Trevis Head comes in. It's a pretty worldy century to

748
00:39:40,307 --> 00:39:43,267
Speaker 2: be fair, and they won the Test. But the Test

749
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Speaker 2: is over inside two days. I know it's not the

750
00:39:47,227 --> 00:39:50,467
Speaker 2: most exciting thing to watch sometimes, but what the West

751
00:39:50,507 --> 00:39:54,427
Speaker 2: indiestern christ Church on that final day was utterly absorbing

752
00:39:54,707 --> 00:39:58,187
Speaker 2: Test cricket. They forced that game into a battle of

753
00:39:58,227 --> 00:40:02,067
Speaker 2: Wills against New Zealand and try as they might, New

754
00:40:02,187 --> 00:40:05,267
Speaker 2: Zealand could not get them out and they came out

755
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Speaker 2: with an honorable draw. So what happens now, what happens

756
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Speaker 2: in Adelaide? I feel like England just have to at

757
00:40:14,507 --> 00:40:18,667
Speaker 2: least temper their approach otherwise the series has gone before

758
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Speaker 2: Christmas seven to one. New Stalk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fail weekends

760
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Speaker 1: for it with Jason him News Talk ZB.

761
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Speaker 2: Four to one, good ashes check and I bring it

762
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Speaker 2: a bit closer to home after one stay with cricket

763
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Speaker 2: and Test cricket and a Test Day boo in the

764
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Speaker 2: last week for Mitch Hay, Canterbury wicket keeper batsman, and

765
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Speaker 2: you have to say it was a fairly decent Test

766
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Speaker 2: Day boo. Just the fourth wicket keeper to score a

767
00:40:48,747 --> 00:40:51,267
Speaker 2: fifty on Test Day boo. He got sixty one, top scored,

768
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Speaker 2: very tidy behind the stumps. Has he done enough to

769
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Speaker 2: keep his place well? By the sounds of it, No,

770
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Speaker 2: looks like Tom Blundele's coming back in. But how did

771
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Speaker 2: Mitch Hay enjoy the experience of his Test Day boo? Well,

772
00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:05,627
Speaker 2: rather than just you know, question it out into the Ether.

773
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Speaker 2: We'll get the man himself on Mitch Hate with us

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Speaker 2: after One.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

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Speaker 1: and after fields, It's all on We James.

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Speaker 14: Ford with Jason Vaine on your Home of Sport.

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Speaker 2: Or Hello there, this is the Weekend Sport on News

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Speaker 2: TALKSB one O seven. I'm Jason Pine and A McDonald

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00:41:26,947 --> 00:41:30,027
Speaker 2: as show producer. An hour from now, we're joined in

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Speaker 2: studio by Matt Fijos. He's head of the Flying kiwis

782
00:41:34,027 --> 00:41:36,827
Speaker 2: All White supporters group. We know whether the All Whites

783
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Speaker 2: are playing at the World Cup next year? Now Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles and Vancouver and Paul play. How do you get tickets?

785
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Speaker 2: How much will they cost? What's the best way of

786
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Speaker 2: giving yourself the best chance? If you are even mildly

787
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Speaker 2: thinking about getting up to LA and Vancouver in June

788
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Speaker 2: of next year to watch the team play, how do

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Speaker 2: you get your tickets? And are the prices that are

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Speaker 2: being talked about which are I watering? Might I say accurate?

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Speaker 2: Matt Fijos the Flying Key We was an hour from

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Speaker 2: now to answer those and other questions. Are this our basketball?

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Speaker 2: The toy Hi Old, Theodora Final, Mainland PORKI todong A

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Speaker 2: PI comes up three o'clock this afternoon at Carl's Stadium,

795
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Speaker 2: as we heard during our sports news there with Ruben

796
00:42:23,747 --> 00:42:26,827
Speaker 2: final game over there before they move all elite basketball

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Speaker 2: to the Patakyudi Indoor Center. This brand new sporting hub

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Speaker 2: and christ Church coach of the Mainland Porki is Alex Stouikovich. Now,

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Speaker 2: ironically enough, he was todong A FI coach last year

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Speaker 2: when they won it for the first time, so he's

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Speaker 2: coaching against his old sides. Does that help today, Alex Dorkovich.

802
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Speaker 2: This our James mcconey as well. Very shortly, Mitch Hay

803
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Speaker 2: is on the show. Can I just direct your attention

804
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Speaker 2: to the Halle Burton Johnston Shield very quickly. This is

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Speaker 2: the women's fifty over competition. Canterbury are playing Wellington in

806
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Speaker 2: along jorder. Canterbury have been bowled out for one hundred

807
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Speaker 2: fifty one Jess Kerr White Fern's seam bowler eight point

808
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Speaker 2: three overs one maiden seven for eighteen, seven for eighteen

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Speaker 2: Jess Kerr. I don't know what the record is. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have to get my team of researchers I e.

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Speaker 2: Andy onto this, but that has to be among the

812
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Speaker 2: best ever bowling figures by a player in the Halliburton

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Speaker 2: Johnston Shield Our Domestic Women's fifty over competition seven for eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable stuff. Well see if we can find out whether

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Speaker 2: that is in fact a record. Even if it's not,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty dwn impressive, isn't it. Coming up ten past one.

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Speaker 1: We're a trip for two to the AM New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Sale Drumfrie plus the Bessie to the house. It's time

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Speaker 1: for lingo bingo, Lingo bingo.

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Speaker 2: It is the ICM New Zealand sal Grand Prix coming

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Speaker 2: to Auckland fourteen and fifteen February. Can get you there.

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Speaker 2: Here's the price return flights including transfers for two people

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Speaker 2: to Auckland, two knights, accommodation in Auckland, two waterfront premium

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Speaker 2: grand stand tickets and merchandise packs for the IM New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Sale Grand Prix. The way we do this is,

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Speaker 2: as the man said, sal GP Lingo bingo, Andy, how

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Speaker 2: do I get that job of being the man who

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Speaker 2: does the announcing of the of the you know, lingo bingo?

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Speaker 2: How do I get that? John Knowle's in your skill set? Piney? Sorry, okay,

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't help you with her happily. But

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Speaker 2: I won't say any nice things, which tall I stick

832
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Speaker 2: to what I know, which is telling people how they

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Speaker 2: get in the drawer.

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Speaker 8: What are they?

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Speaker 2: What are the kids say nowadays? Stay in your lane,

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Speaker 2: staying firmly in my lane. There, here's how you get

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Speaker 2: in the drawer. I'm going to give you three terms.

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Speaker 2: One of them is a genuine sailing term, the other

839
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Speaker 2: two are not. All you have to do is identify

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Speaker 2: which one is the genuine sailing term, and text the

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Speaker 2: word sail and that word to nine two nine two.

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00:45:10,267 --> 00:45:13,907
Speaker 2: Pretty easy, really, okay? So three words? Which of these

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00:45:14,507 --> 00:45:23,547
Speaker 2: is an actual sailing term? Here come the three words helm, clasp, mastgate,

844
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Speaker 2: flight controller. Which of those three is an actual sailing term?

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Speaker 2: Text the word sale and the word that is a

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Speaker 2: sailing term to nine two niney two. Those words again, helm, clasp, mastgate,

847
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Speaker 2: flight controller, sail and the word to nine two ninety two,

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Speaker 2: and you're in the drawer to win that prize. We

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of people in the drawer yesterday when

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Speaker 2: we played Lingo Bingo. We'll put some more people in

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Speaker 2: the drawer today and we'll announce that winner for you

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00:45:56,627 --> 00:46:01,587
Speaker 2: before two o'clock meantime. A debut to remember for Canterbury

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Speaker 2: wicket keeper batsman Mitch Hay in the second Test against

854
00:46:04,707 --> 00:46:06,147
Speaker 2: the West Indies in Wellington.

855
00:46:07,027 --> 00:46:09,627
Speaker 1: And on the poll shot goes Hey out to the boundary.

856
00:46:09,627 --> 00:46:10,547
Speaker 2: This could run away.

857
00:46:10,387 --> 00:46:13,067
Speaker 3: Before it does, bitchu Hey brings up.

858
00:46:13,627 --> 00:46:18,427
Speaker 5: There's fifty on Test Day boot, Yes, fifty two.

859
00:46:18,427 --> 00:46:19,867
Speaker 3: Runs of seventy four boards.

860
00:46:19,947 --> 00:46:23,467
Speaker 2: Well betted, well bettered indeed, Mitch Hay becoming just the

861
00:46:23,507 --> 00:46:26,027
Speaker 2: fourth wicket keeper to score a half century on Test

862
00:46:26,107 --> 00:46:28,787
Speaker 2: Day boot top scoring in the black Caps innings with

863
00:46:28,907 --> 00:46:33,067
Speaker 2: sixty one, also producing a very tidy display behind the

864
00:46:33,107 --> 00:46:36,987
Speaker 2: stumps as New Zealand claimed a nine wicket win well

865
00:46:37,027 --> 00:46:40,387
Speaker 2: inside three days. Mitch Hay is with us. Mitch, congratulations

866
00:46:40,427 --> 00:46:44,187
Speaker 2: on your Test day boo. The Test started on Wednesday.

867
00:46:44,707 --> 00:46:47,627
Speaker 2: So when did you find out that you would be debuting?

868
00:46:48,387 --> 00:46:51,547
Speaker 15: Yeah, thank you. I found it on Tuesday morning. Yeah,

869
00:46:51,667 --> 00:46:52,587
Speaker 15: day before the game.

870
00:46:53,827 --> 00:46:55,427
Speaker 16: Just got to be tap on the shoulder from Rob

871
00:46:55,507 --> 00:46:57,507
Speaker 16: saying that I was in for for the next day.

872
00:46:57,547 --> 00:47:01,147
Speaker 16: So that was obviously very exciting and that's when the

873
00:47:01,147 --> 00:47:03,547
Speaker 16: nerves really started to go to work.

874
00:47:03,947 --> 00:47:06,307
Speaker 2: You'd already debooed of course for New Zealand and ODI

875
00:47:06,467 --> 00:47:10,187
Speaker 2: in T twenty cricket. You've played seven ODIs, twelve T twenties.

876
00:47:10,227 --> 00:47:12,187
Speaker 2: Now for the black Caps, were you still though a

877
00:47:12,187 --> 00:47:14,627
Speaker 2: bit nervous ahead of your Test A boot.

878
00:47:15,867 --> 00:47:16,507
Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely.

879
00:47:16,547 --> 00:47:20,347
Speaker 16: I think Test creet just being sort of the pinnacle

880
00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:24,147
Speaker 16: and it's the format I've sort of been striving for

881
00:47:23,907 --> 00:47:26,987
Speaker 16: for such a long time, so so you know, get

882
00:47:27,027 --> 00:47:29,507
Speaker 16: the the opportunity to day be on that format was

883
00:47:29,507 --> 00:47:30,107
Speaker 16: pretty special.

884
00:47:30,147 --> 00:47:32,987
Speaker 15: And I think just for how much like Test cret means.

885
00:47:32,747 --> 00:47:34,867
Speaker 16: To everyone in his arnd and round the world and

886
00:47:34,907 --> 00:47:37,707
Speaker 16: me personally, I think that just culminated to a few nerves,

887
00:47:37,747 --> 00:47:39,147
Speaker 16: but it's all part of it.

888
00:47:39,267 --> 00:47:41,827
Speaker 2: So we get to the first day and Tom like them,

889
00:47:41,827 --> 00:47:43,907
Speaker 2: wins the toss and you're in the field. So did

890
00:47:43,947 --> 00:47:46,587
Speaker 2: it help as a wicket keeper to bowl first and

891
00:47:46,587 --> 00:47:48,547
Speaker 2: get out there immediately on the first morning.

892
00:47:49,387 --> 00:47:52,387
Speaker 15: Yeah, I was hoping we would be fielding first.

893
00:47:53,147 --> 00:47:55,547
Speaker 16: I was, yeah, pretty excited to get out there straight

894
00:47:55,587 --> 00:47:56,747
Speaker 16: away and get into my work.

895
00:47:56,827 --> 00:47:59,867
Speaker 15: So I took a few balls for the first ball

896
00:47:59,907 --> 00:48:01,507
Speaker 15: to sort of come through to me. But once that did,

897
00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:02,627
Speaker 15: we're in the middle of the gloves.

898
00:48:02,627 --> 00:48:04,147
Speaker 16: I thought you know, we're gonna be okay here, So

899
00:48:04,667 --> 00:48:06,467
Speaker 16: from there I could get into my work and.

900
00:48:06,507 --> 00:48:07,787
Speaker 15: It was really enjoyable.

901
00:48:07,827 --> 00:48:10,067
Speaker 2: So when you reflect on the two innings, the two

902
00:48:10,107 --> 00:48:12,747
Speaker 2: complete innings at the base and how happy were you

903
00:48:12,787 --> 00:48:14,547
Speaker 2: overall with your wicket keeping.

904
00:48:15,587 --> 00:48:16,707
Speaker 15: Yeah, no, I was really happy.

905
00:48:17,347 --> 00:48:20,987
Speaker 16: I think, you know, standards throughout the two four innings

906
00:48:20,987 --> 00:48:23,627
Speaker 16: were really good, really high. And that's something I always

907
00:48:23,627 --> 00:48:26,467
Speaker 16: prided myself on, is keeping, and I put a lot

908
00:48:26,467 --> 00:48:29,027
Speaker 16: of time, what effort into it to be as good

909
00:48:29,067 --> 00:48:31,027
Speaker 16: as I can be. So to see it stand up

910
00:48:31,347 --> 00:48:32,787
Speaker 16: in a Test match was really cool.

911
00:48:32,947 --> 00:48:34,667
Speaker 2: And you shared your day bill of course with one

912
00:48:34,667 --> 00:48:37,467
Speaker 2: of your Canterbury teammates, Michael Ray, combined for a couple

913
00:48:37,507 --> 00:48:40,467
Speaker 2: of wickets called Hey Bold Ray. How special was that

914
00:48:40,547 --> 00:48:41,147
Speaker 2: for the two of you?

915
00:48:42,187 --> 00:48:43,067
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was really cool.

916
00:48:43,147 --> 00:48:44,747
Speaker 16: It was really nice to sort of have someone else

917
00:48:44,787 --> 00:48:47,667
Speaker 16: going through similar sort of emotions and stuff throughout the

918
00:48:48,387 --> 00:48:49,987
Speaker 16: Test match and it was really cool to share that

919
00:48:50,147 --> 00:48:52,747
Speaker 16: milestone with him. And it was just really impressive to

920
00:48:52,787 --> 00:48:55,667
Speaker 16: see him go about his work and how much success

921
00:48:55,707 --> 00:48:58,347
Speaker 16: he had out there. It was just really energizing his

922
00:48:58,387 --> 00:49:01,507
Speaker 16: spells and was really cool to see him get some rewards.

923
00:49:01,987 --> 00:49:05,507
Speaker 2: I know, wicket keepers have a particular role in terms

924
00:49:05,507 --> 00:49:09,187
Speaker 2: of keeping the energy high within a playing group, even

925
00:49:09,187 --> 00:49:11,707
Speaker 2: on debut. Mitch, did you feel that you were able

926
00:49:11,787 --> 00:49:15,787
Speaker 2: to do that, you know, to bring some energy even

927
00:49:15,787 --> 00:49:18,267
Speaker 2: though you know you were playing your first Test match?

928
00:49:19,467 --> 00:49:20,067
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think so.

929
00:49:20,187 --> 00:49:21,787
Speaker 16: I think like a couple of things help with that,

930
00:49:21,867 --> 00:49:24,787
Speaker 16: as obviously I played with almost all the guys before,

931
00:49:26,307 --> 00:49:29,747
Speaker 16: which helps, but also I think just having that just

932
00:49:29,787 --> 00:49:32,587
Speaker 16: genuine excitement out there myself would have rubbed off on others.

933
00:49:32,627 --> 00:49:35,107
Speaker 16: But there's also stuff just around getting to the stumps

934
00:49:35,107 --> 00:49:36,947
Speaker 16: each bog and throws back in from the field, which

935
00:49:36,947 --> 00:49:39,467
Speaker 16: I think lifts everyone and keeps the stand is really high.

936
00:49:39,587 --> 00:49:41,707
Speaker 16: So that was something I tried to prime myself on

937
00:49:41,947 --> 00:49:44,947
Speaker 16: and keep constant throughout the the innings.

938
00:49:44,587 --> 00:49:48,427
Speaker 2: All right to the batting innings, then going along quite nicely.

939
00:49:48,427 --> 00:49:50,707
Speaker 2: At one seventeen for two, all of a sudden a

940
00:49:50,787 --> 00:49:53,787
Speaker 2: couple of quick wickets one seventeen for four and you're in.

941
00:49:53,907 --> 00:49:56,707
Speaker 2: You walk out to join Daryl Mitchell. So what sort

942
00:49:56,707 --> 00:49:59,227
Speaker 2: of initial conversations are you having at that point?

943
00:50:00,427 --> 00:50:03,987
Speaker 16: Yeah, me and Darrell battered a bit together, so you know,

944
00:50:03,987 --> 00:50:06,027
Speaker 16: he was just pretty calm out there, and I guess

945
00:50:06,427 --> 00:50:09,667
Speaker 16: game situation in a way in rebull cricket doesn't dictate

946
00:50:09,747 --> 00:50:11,267
Speaker 16: too much how you bat. You know, I'm going to

947
00:50:11,307 --> 00:50:14,387
Speaker 16: follow my game plan pretty similarly whether we're going really

948
00:50:14,427 --> 00:50:17,307
Speaker 16: well or not so well. So we were just pretty

949
00:50:17,307 --> 00:50:20,027
Speaker 16: clear in our game plans and trying to trying to

950
00:50:20,067 --> 00:50:22,267
Speaker 16: build a partnership together and work together and keep our

951
00:50:22,267 --> 00:50:25,427
Speaker 16: communication nice and higher so we keep each other accountable.

952
00:50:24,867 --> 00:50:26,067
Speaker 6: And nice and calm.

953
00:50:26,067 --> 00:50:27,547
Speaker 16: And that was the cool thing that we're able to

954
00:50:27,547 --> 00:50:29,707
Speaker 16: build a bit of a partnership and work towards sort

955
00:50:29,707 --> 00:50:31,747
Speaker 16: of climbing into that deficit.

956
00:50:32,067 --> 00:50:34,307
Speaker 2: I know the formats are very different, but how much

957
00:50:34,387 --> 00:50:37,787
Speaker 2: does your red ball batting game plan differ from when

958
00:50:37,827 --> 00:50:40,227
Speaker 2: you're playing and batting in white ball cricket.

959
00:50:41,627 --> 00:50:43,707
Speaker 16: Well, I think the cool thing about RedBull cricket is

960
00:50:43,787 --> 00:50:46,187
Speaker 16: almost every time I go on bat, I can play

961
00:50:46,227 --> 00:50:48,947
Speaker 16: the same way that I want to and I can

962
00:50:48,987 --> 00:50:50,267
Speaker 16: be really select if bout balls.

963
00:50:50,147 --> 00:50:52,627
Speaker 15: I want to score off. And I think sometimes in.

964
00:50:52,547 --> 00:50:55,267
Speaker 16: White ball cricket, batting in the lower to mid order,

965
00:50:55,267 --> 00:50:57,467
Speaker 16: you sort of dictated to about how you have to play.

966
00:50:58,027 --> 00:51:01,027
Speaker 16: So I think it's really nice being able to have

967
00:51:01,067 --> 00:51:03,947
Speaker 16: a pretty consistent game plan that I've been able to

968
00:51:03,987 --> 00:51:06,907
Speaker 16: sort of learn and trust stuff to my first class

969
00:51:06,947 --> 00:51:09,947
Speaker 16: games for Canterbury and New Zealand and stuff, so it's

970
00:51:09,987 --> 00:51:12,307
Speaker 16: just yeah, it's just simplified, I think compared to the

971
00:51:12,307 --> 00:51:13,747
Speaker 16: white ball game plans.

972
00:51:13,507 --> 00:51:15,227
Speaker 2: And did you feel pretty comfortable straight I mean it

973
00:51:15,267 --> 00:51:17,227
Speaker 2: looked like it. Did you feel pretty comfortable straight away

974
00:51:17,227 --> 00:51:18,107
Speaker 2: out there with the bat?

975
00:51:19,187 --> 00:51:19,387
Speaker 8: Yeah?

976
00:51:19,387 --> 00:51:20,587
Speaker 15: I think once I got off the mark I felt

977
00:51:20,587 --> 00:51:24,427
Speaker 15: a bit uncomfortable. Yeah, that second ball it was nice.

978
00:51:24,587 --> 00:51:26,987
Speaker 16: It's a sneakyy single and I think the heart rate

979
00:51:27,067 --> 00:51:29,547
Speaker 16: dropped a bit after that, So yeah, I think once

980
00:51:29,587 --> 00:51:32,467
Speaker 16: I got through that, I was pretty calm. Pretty Yeah,

981
00:51:32,507 --> 00:51:34,907
Speaker 16: I'm pretty confident that I could do a job out there,

982
00:51:34,907 --> 00:51:35,707
Speaker 16: which was cool.

983
00:51:35,587 --> 00:51:38,067
Speaker 2: And a fifty on test day but terrific stuff. I

984
00:51:38,107 --> 00:51:39,827
Speaker 2: saw some lovely footage Gymum and dad up in the

985
00:51:39,987 --> 00:51:42,107
Speaker 2: ra vance stand when you brought your fifty up. How

986
00:51:42,107 --> 00:51:44,187
Speaker 2: special a moment was it to have them there to

987
00:51:44,787 --> 00:51:45,547
Speaker 2: you know, to watch on.

988
00:51:46,467 --> 00:51:47,427
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was really cool.

989
00:51:47,587 --> 00:51:50,027
Speaker 16: They were there every day, so it was great to

990
00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:52,547
Speaker 16: be able to share it with them. They've been massive

991
00:51:52,547 --> 00:51:54,947
Speaker 16: supporters of me and I couldn't thank them enough for

992
00:51:54,947 --> 00:51:56,787
Speaker 16: how much they've given me growing up so it was

993
00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:59,547
Speaker 16: really cool that they could be there to experience it

994
00:51:59,587 --> 00:52:01,627
Speaker 16: with me. I guess, and she has really cool But

995
00:52:01,667 --> 00:52:03,507
Speaker 16: a footage that was captured wasn't.

996
00:52:03,387 --> 00:52:05,067
Speaker 2: It were you but gonna to get out when you

997
00:52:05,107 --> 00:52:06,947
Speaker 2: did a couple of polls for four but then caught

998
00:52:06,947 --> 00:52:08,227
Speaker 2: in the deep trying for another one?

999
00:52:09,347 --> 00:52:12,907
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. I wasn't happy. Yeah, it's one

1000
00:52:12,947 --> 00:52:15,987
Speaker 16: of those things. I was had had a plan to

1001
00:52:16,347 --> 00:52:18,227
Speaker 16: keep it down and then I actually couldn't hit that

1002
00:52:18,227 --> 00:52:20,147
Speaker 16: ball much better and just ended up being too flat

1003
00:52:20,187 --> 00:52:23,107
Speaker 16: straight to the guy. So yeah, Porscha's obviously a strength

1004
00:52:23,107 --> 00:52:25,987
Speaker 16: of mind, but can also you know, get me out sometimes,

1005
00:52:25,987 --> 00:52:27,947
Speaker 16: which is just part of the game. But here it

1006
00:52:27,987 --> 00:52:29,547
Speaker 16: was a frustrating time to get out because I think

1007
00:52:29,667 --> 00:52:32,947
Speaker 16: me and Glen could built something pretty big there. But yeah,

1008
00:52:32,987 --> 00:52:34,867
Speaker 16: that's cricket. I guess you're going to get out eventually.

1009
00:52:34,947 --> 00:52:36,587
Speaker 16: It's just, you know, I could live with it, from

1010
00:52:36,667 --> 00:52:37,547
Speaker 16: planning to my strengths.

1011
00:52:37,667 --> 00:52:40,987
Speaker 2: Well, in the end, it didn't matter. A comfortable, comprehensive

1012
00:52:41,027 --> 00:52:44,947
Speaker 2: win win within three days. So it sounds as though

1013
00:52:44,947 --> 00:52:47,347
Speaker 2: Tom Blundle may return from injury for the Third Test

1014
00:52:47,387 --> 00:52:50,387
Speaker 2: starting on Thursday at bay Oval. Do you feel though

1015
00:52:50,507 --> 00:52:52,787
Speaker 2: much as though you've done all you can to, you know,

1016
00:52:52,907 --> 00:52:54,707
Speaker 2: to make the selectors make a decision.

1017
00:52:57,067 --> 00:52:59,867
Speaker 16: Yeah, I guess that that was my plan, just to

1018
00:52:59,947 --> 00:53:01,867
Speaker 16: go out there and do as well as I could

1019
00:53:01,867 --> 00:53:04,587
Speaker 16: for the team, and if I cause some selection headaches,

1020
00:53:04,627 --> 00:53:06,227
Speaker 16: that's that's, you know.

1021
00:53:06,347 --> 00:53:08,987
Speaker 15: I guess I'm doing my job. But Tom's done so

1022
00:53:08,987 --> 00:53:09,307
Speaker 15: so well.

1023
00:53:09,307 --> 00:53:10,467
Speaker 6: Think he's gone for such a long.

1024
00:53:10,347 --> 00:53:14,827
Speaker 16: Time and he's been really good to me personally, so yeah,

1025
00:53:14,547 --> 00:53:17,307
Speaker 16: I think he's, yeah, looking like he might be might

1026
00:53:17,307 --> 00:53:19,067
Speaker 16: be good to go for the third one. So that's

1027
00:53:19,107 --> 00:53:21,187
Speaker 16: pleasing for him that he's been able to recover quickly

1028
00:53:21,187 --> 00:53:21,907
Speaker 16: from his injury.

1029
00:53:22,227 --> 00:53:25,307
Speaker 2: Are you happy to be I don't know, aggressively patient

1030
00:53:25,587 --> 00:53:27,467
Speaker 2: with this, you know, to to wait for the next

1031
00:53:27,547 --> 00:53:29,907
Speaker 2: opportunity in the test side to come along.

1032
00:53:31,867 --> 00:53:32,427
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess.

1033
00:53:33,147 --> 00:53:35,267
Speaker 16: I just keep doing what I can do, and when

1034
00:53:35,267 --> 00:53:37,347
Speaker 16: I get opportunities to try to take them and just

1035
00:53:37,427 --> 00:53:39,827
Speaker 16: keep trying to improve as a player, I guess.

1036
00:53:39,827 --> 00:53:41,387
Speaker 15: So that's a cool thing for me.

1037
00:53:41,467 --> 00:53:43,107
Speaker 16: I'm just still trying to get better and learn as

1038
00:53:43,147 --> 00:53:44,787
Speaker 16: much as I can, and it's been really cool to

1039
00:53:44,787 --> 00:53:47,067
Speaker 16: be a part of this test squad for you know,

1040
00:53:47,147 --> 00:53:49,427
Speaker 16: ten days or so and pick the brains of some

1041
00:53:49,467 --> 00:53:51,227
Speaker 16: of the guys that have played a lot more than me.

1042
00:53:51,307 --> 00:53:53,307
Speaker 15: So it's been been really cool in any experience as well.

1043
00:53:53,387 --> 00:53:56,147
Speaker 16: So you're happy just to keep keep trying to get

1044
00:53:56,187 --> 00:53:58,587
Speaker 16: better and when I do get my chances, hopefully take.

1045
00:53:58,467 --> 00:54:02,587
Speaker 2: Them absolutely well. And just on your the contact that

1046
00:54:02,627 --> 00:54:04,947
Speaker 2: you have in camp with Tom Blundell, who you know

1047
00:54:04,947 --> 00:54:07,107
Speaker 2: it's played a lot of Test cricket. Is that a

1048
00:54:07,947 --> 00:54:10,987
Speaker 2: good relationship You come in you feel you can immediately,

1049
00:54:11,227 --> 00:54:14,387
Speaker 2: you know, sort of pick his brains and soak up

1050
00:54:14,387 --> 00:54:16,387
Speaker 2: his experience in the black Caps camp.

1051
00:54:17,387 --> 00:54:17,947
Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely.

1052
00:54:17,947 --> 00:54:19,627
Speaker 16: We've worked together a bit in the past and winter

1053
00:54:19,707 --> 00:54:22,107
Speaker 16: camps and stuff, and he's been really good to work with,

1054
00:54:22,187 --> 00:54:23,667
Speaker 16: really cool just to sort of watch him go about

1055
00:54:23,667 --> 00:54:26,787
Speaker 16: his work and ask questions of and stuff. So yeah,

1056
00:54:26,787 --> 00:54:28,987
Speaker 16: it's been He's always been really good to me, really

1057
00:54:28,987 --> 00:54:31,947
Speaker 16: open and honest with his sort of with his learnings

1058
00:54:31,947 --> 00:54:34,187
Speaker 16: and experiences he's had. So yeah, now he's been really

1059
00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:36,827
Speaker 16: good to man, and it was no different this week either.

1060
00:54:37,307 --> 00:54:39,867
Speaker 2: Did you know that it was your responsibility as keeper

1061
00:54:39,907 --> 00:54:43,347
Speaker 2: to book the limousine for the traditional bowler's trip up

1062
00:54:43,427 --> 00:54:45,427
Speaker 2: Mount vic after a Test winning Wellington?

1063
00:54:46,467 --> 00:54:49,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, I had heard whispers about that, but that was

1064
00:54:49,227 --> 00:54:51,147
Speaker 16: a great, great trip up there. It was really cool

1065
00:54:51,227 --> 00:54:54,547
Speaker 16: to get there. Everyone who had Bold and the keeper together.

1066
00:54:54,627 --> 00:54:56,787
Speaker 16: It was a pretty good evening to be fair. We

1067
00:54:56,787 --> 00:54:57,347
Speaker 16: had a lot of fun.

1068
00:54:57,507 --> 00:54:58,787
Speaker 2: Did the limousine break down?

1069
00:55:00,107 --> 00:55:01,787
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, overheated up top.

1070
00:55:02,147 --> 00:55:03,627
Speaker 16: Michael Ray's a bit of a car guy and he

1071
00:55:03,827 --> 00:55:05,347
Speaker 16: was trying to be helpful.

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Speaker 15: But now we got back down in the end, so

1073
00:55:07,707 --> 00:55:08,507
Speaker 15: all it was all good.

1074
00:55:09,587 --> 00:55:12,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a cool way to wrap a very very

1075
00:55:12,347 --> 00:55:14,667
Speaker 2: good test. Went all right, so on to Bayoval now

1076
00:55:14,667 --> 00:55:16,707
Speaker 2: we wait to see what happens their selection wise. Mitch

1077
00:55:16,947 --> 00:55:19,067
Speaker 2: terrific mate. I mean, it's just awesome to have you

1078
00:55:19,067 --> 00:55:20,667
Speaker 2: out there. It's been a long time since we've had

1079
00:55:20,667 --> 00:55:22,947
Speaker 2: a different wicket keeper and Tess Crickey you've probably picked

1080
00:55:22,987 --> 00:55:25,187
Speaker 2: up on this b Ja Watling for ages then Tom Blundell,

1081
00:55:25,467 --> 00:55:26,987
Speaker 2: so great to see you on debot.

1082
00:55:27,027 --> 00:55:27,187
Speaker 8: Mate.

1083
00:55:27,267 --> 00:55:30,027
Speaker 2: All the best for what lies ahead across the summer

1084
00:55:30,067 --> 00:55:31,987
Speaker 2: and thanks as always for taking the time for a chat.

1085
00:55:32,027 --> 00:55:33,267
Speaker 15: All right, it all thanks having me.

1086
00:55:33,227 --> 00:55:34,147
Speaker 2: No, thank you for joining us.

1087
00:55:34,187 --> 00:55:34,347
Speaker 8: Mitch.

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00:55:34,387 --> 00:55:37,067
Speaker 2: Mitch Hay there test a boot in the week past

1089
00:55:37,187 --> 00:55:39,747
Speaker 2: at the Basin Reserve and did all he could really

1090
00:55:40,187 --> 00:55:43,507
Speaker 2: didn't he, you know, to stake his claim. There's been

1091
00:55:44,267 --> 00:55:47,507
Speaker 2: I note, quite a bit of conversation around what will

1092
00:55:47,547 --> 00:55:51,067
Speaker 2: happen in the Third Test at bay Oval starting on Thursday.

1093
00:55:51,827 --> 00:55:55,547
Speaker 2: You might have heard Gavin Larsen on the show yesterday

1094
00:55:55,547 --> 00:55:59,627
Speaker 2: with US black Caps selector. I asked him about the

1095
00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:04,667
Speaker 2: selection decision now between Mitch Hay and a returning Tom Blundell.

1096
00:56:05,227 --> 00:56:07,387
Speaker 17: Everything you did at the pace and reserve to me,

1097
00:56:07,507 --> 00:56:10,467
Speaker 17: it spoke to his class as innings was a very

1098
00:56:10,587 --> 00:56:13,387
Speaker 17: very good one and that was that was in trying conditions.

1099
00:56:13,467 --> 00:56:15,747
Speaker 17: That base and reserve picture had quickened up on day

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00:56:15,787 --> 00:56:19,187
Speaker 17: two and Mitch showed really good determination and commitment with

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00:56:19,227 --> 00:56:19,707
Speaker 17: his batting.

1102
00:56:19,907 --> 00:56:22,427
Speaker 2: So that was Mitch Hay. But what about Tom Blundell.

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00:56:22,587 --> 00:56:24,587
Speaker 17: Yes, he's been a bit light on runs, but we

1104
00:56:24,667 --> 00:56:27,987
Speaker 17: also believe that he's a class player and formers temporary

1105
00:56:28,107 --> 00:56:31,067
Speaker 17: class is permanent. Tommy's going to be back on the park.

1106
00:56:31,107 --> 00:56:33,747
Speaker 17: He will need to provide the performances. We've got a

1107
00:56:33,747 --> 00:56:35,667
Speaker 17: lot of cricket coming up that will be keeping an

1108
00:56:35,707 --> 00:56:37,467
Speaker 17: eye on Tommy and on Mitch Hape.

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00:56:37,467 --> 00:56:40,827
Speaker 2: So there you go. So and Luke Ronkey did some

1110
00:56:40,947 --> 00:56:44,427
Speaker 2: media yesterday as well. Black Caps batting coach and he

1111
00:56:44,467 --> 00:56:47,307
Speaker 2: talked about Tom Blundell and his state of readiness for

1112
00:56:47,347 --> 00:56:47,987
Speaker 2: the third Test.

1113
00:56:48,067 --> 00:56:51,387
Speaker 18: So he's been training fully, been running, been batting, been keeping,

1114
00:56:51,427 --> 00:56:54,107
Speaker 18: so his hamstring injury and being own read there very well.

1115
00:56:54,187 --> 00:56:56,307
Speaker 2: So he's coming back in. I don't think, you know,

1116
00:56:56,347 --> 00:57:01,347
Speaker 2: they're not even trying to suggest anything else. And you know,

1117
00:57:01,427 --> 00:57:03,907
Speaker 2: I actually don't mind that. I don't mind that that

1118
00:57:03,987 --> 00:57:07,627
Speaker 2: they're letting us know what's going on. Tom Blundele has

1119
00:57:07,667 --> 00:57:10,707
Speaker 2: been Test wicket keeper for a very long time. He

1120
00:57:10,747 --> 00:57:13,587
Speaker 2: took over after BJ Watling retired and was that after

1121
00:57:13,587 --> 00:57:16,067
Speaker 2: the Test Championship win twenty twenty one. Yes, So Tom

1122
00:57:16,107 --> 00:57:18,387
Speaker 2: Blundell's been the regular wicket keeper in this Test side

1123
00:57:18,427 --> 00:57:22,627
Speaker 2: for four coming up five years, and I honestly believe

1124
00:57:22,667 --> 00:57:25,027
Speaker 2: he deserves the opportunity to come back into the team.

1125
00:57:25,027 --> 00:57:28,947
Speaker 2: He wasn't dropped. He was injured in the Test match

1126
00:57:29,027 --> 00:57:32,787
Speaker 2: in christ Church. He's over that injury and so he

1127
00:57:32,867 --> 00:57:36,947
Speaker 2: comes back. In the opposite view to that is that

1128
00:57:37,267 --> 00:57:40,147
Speaker 2: if you come into a team and you play well,

1129
00:57:40,667 --> 00:57:43,827
Speaker 2: that you should keep your place. So that is the

1130
00:57:43,867 --> 00:57:47,307
Speaker 2: balancing act for Gavin Larsen, for Tom Latham, for Rob Walter.

1131
00:57:47,707 --> 00:57:50,747
Speaker 2: Those who make these decisions about what happens in the

1132
00:57:50,787 --> 00:57:53,827
Speaker 2: Third Test. It has been I mean everybody who has

1133
00:57:53,867 --> 00:57:56,227
Speaker 2: been quoted on the record. We've heard Gavin Larson, We've

1134
00:57:56,227 --> 00:57:58,947
Speaker 2: heard Luke Ronkey. Daryl Mitchell said the same thing Tom

1135
00:57:59,027 --> 00:58:01,787
Speaker 2: Latham as well during the Wellington Test match that when

1136
00:58:01,907 --> 00:58:05,107
Speaker 2: Tom Blundele's fit, he comes back in and again. I

1137
00:58:05,107 --> 00:58:08,627
Speaker 2: don't mind that. I don't mind it. As a philosophy

1138
00:58:09,387 --> 00:58:12,547
Speaker 2: of loyalty, sometimes it can be overplayed, but I think

1139
00:58:12,547 --> 00:58:14,667
Speaker 2: in this case it's the right decision. And let's not

1140
00:58:15,747 --> 00:58:20,427
Speaker 2: concern ourselves too much with Mitch Hay's international future. I

1141
00:58:20,467 --> 00:58:23,347
Speaker 2: think we can all see that he is going to

1142
00:58:23,347 --> 00:58:24,707
Speaker 2: play a heck of a lot of cricket for New

1143
00:58:24,787 --> 00:58:27,947
Speaker 2: Zealand in all three formats. Remember the ninety nine he

1144
00:58:27,987 --> 00:58:31,627
Speaker 2: got who was that against last summer Pakistan? Ninety nine

1145
00:58:31,627 --> 00:58:34,427
Speaker 2: off seventy odd balls of twenty two off the last

1146
00:58:34,467 --> 00:58:37,147
Speaker 2: over or something. The guy can bat in first class

1147
00:58:37,187 --> 00:58:40,387
Speaker 2: cricket average is nearly fifty. He's a good wicket keeper.

1148
00:58:40,907 --> 00:58:44,707
Speaker 2: He's the next one coming in. Luke Ronki actually had

1149
00:58:44,707 --> 00:58:49,747
Speaker 2: some advice for Mitch Hay. He had to wait as well,

1150
00:58:50,147 --> 00:58:52,347
Speaker 2: Luke Ronky for his chance to make a test taboo.

1151
00:58:52,427 --> 00:58:54,947
Speaker 2: So Wat's his advice to Mitchay.

1152
00:58:55,427 --> 00:58:57,427
Speaker 18: It's about going out and enjoying what you're doing, and

1153
00:58:57,467 --> 00:59:00,547
Speaker 18: then you understand the situation. You understand that you sort

1154
00:59:00,587 --> 00:59:03,627
Speaker 18: of have to wait. Sometimes it can be frustrating, but

1155
00:59:03,947 --> 00:59:06,547
Speaker 18: he did everything he could out there for us. He

1156
00:59:06,587 --> 00:59:09,147
Speaker 18: made some good runs. Catwell had a high energy. So

1157
00:59:09,267 --> 00:59:10,547
Speaker 18: you can ask if someone coming in.

1158
00:59:10,667 --> 00:59:12,907
Speaker 2: So that's Luke Ronke, Chris says on text, and it's

1159
00:59:12,907 --> 00:59:15,067
Speaker 2: a great point. Same thing happened to Tom Blundell. Remember

1160
00:59:15,067 --> 00:59:18,147
Speaker 2: he got one hundred on debut when bj Watland was injured.

1161
00:59:18,147 --> 00:59:20,587
Speaker 2: Then Watland came back in. It's a Tom Blundell. I

1162
00:59:20,627 --> 00:59:22,787
Speaker 2: think it went through exactly the same thing beg on

1163
00:59:22,867 --> 00:59:26,707
Speaker 2: Chris test deboo bas In Reserve, looking up at his

1164
00:59:26,787 --> 00:59:29,867
Speaker 2: old school of Wellington College and scored one hundred and

1165
00:59:29,907 --> 00:59:33,067
Speaker 2: then famously I think either walked home or got the

1166
00:59:33,107 --> 00:59:36,867
Speaker 2: bus home still wearing his whites. Maybe back to the hotel.

1167
00:59:36,907 --> 00:59:40,667
Speaker 2: Maybe that urban myth has been expanded, but yeah, I

1168
00:59:40,827 --> 00:59:43,347
Speaker 2: like the idea of it, and I think Tom Blundell

1169
00:59:43,427 --> 00:59:48,227
Speaker 2: has earned over his test career the opportunity to continue it.

1170
00:59:49,347 --> 00:59:51,027
Speaker 2: I think he'll come back in for the third Test.

1171
00:59:51,587 --> 00:59:54,347
Speaker 2: He'll be first choice for England mid year, India back

1172
00:59:54,387 --> 00:59:57,227
Speaker 2: here next summer and then Australia, and who knows that

1173
00:59:57,307 --> 00:59:59,387
Speaker 2: might be it for Tom Blundele and then Mitch Hay

1174
00:59:59,787 --> 01:00:02,467
Speaker 2: can come in and make Hay pardon the pun. One

1175
01:00:02,507 --> 01:00:04,267
Speaker 2: twenty six News talks he'd be back in a moment.

1176
01:00:04,947 --> 01:00:06,827
Speaker 10: It's more than game.

1177
01:00:07,147 --> 01:00:11,787
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Fine and GJ. Garnoves, New Zealand's

1178
01:00:11,827 --> 01:00:12,987
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

1179
01:00:13,067 --> 01:00:14,107
Speaker 6: News Talks, AB.

1180
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Speaker 2: News talks basketball shortly Alex Stoykovich, the head coach of

1181
01:00:19,267 --> 01:00:22,067
Speaker 2: the Mainland Paul Kai ahead of this afternoon's toy He

1182
01:00:22,227 --> 01:00:26,387
Speaker 2: Basketball Artel Final. I mentioned Jess Curs bowling figures just

1183
01:00:26,427 --> 01:00:29,747
Speaker 2: after the one o'clock news. In today's game against Canterbury

1184
01:00:29,787 --> 01:00:33,987
Speaker 2: down at Lungy Order, she has taken the absolutely astounding

1185
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:36,827
Speaker 2: figures of seven for eighteen, eight point three overs one

1186
01:00:36,867 --> 01:00:39,867
Speaker 2: made in seven for eighteen as part of Canterbury's one

1187
01:00:39,987 --> 01:00:42,387
Speaker 2: fifty one all out, and I wondered out loud actually

1188
01:00:42,427 --> 01:00:46,147
Speaker 2: whether they were the best ever domestic figures by a

1189
01:00:46,347 --> 01:00:49,787
Speaker 2: New Zealand female cricketer. And Andy went to work and it

1190
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Speaker 2: turns out that she has equalled the best figures seven

1191
01:00:54,107 --> 01:00:58,747
Speaker 2: for eighteen is the equal best in domestic women's cricket.

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01:00:59,187 --> 01:01:03,587
Speaker 2: Bella Armstrong on the seventh of December twenty nineteen, bowling

1193
01:01:03,587 --> 01:01:07,987
Speaker 2: for Auckland against Otago at Melville Park in Auckland. Nine overs,

1194
01:01:08,027 --> 01:01:11,907
Speaker 2: four maidens, seven for eighteen, so exactly the same figures.

1195
01:01:11,947 --> 01:01:14,987
Speaker 2: So Balor Armstrong and Jess Kerr are now the joint

1196
01:01:14,987 --> 01:01:18,707
Speaker 2: holders of the best domestic figures by a female cricketer

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Speaker 2: here in New Zealand. Tremendous research, endy, tremendous stuff, one

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Speaker 2: point thirty.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's the final of the twenty twenty five TOIHI Basketball

1201
01:01:28,067 --> 01:01:32,467
Speaker 2: altado A competition this afternoon. Hi findes.

1202
01:01:33,747 --> 01:01:46,987
Speaker 19: O the fun, the vision, the execution, Parky perfection, Jacobs

1203
01:01:48,147 --> 01:01:52,267
Speaker 19: almost soft the backboard, Paul has it and.

1204
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Speaker 3: That is it.

1205
01:01:54,067 --> 01:01:57,147
Speaker 15: The Mainland Parkey and Sue.

1206
01:01:57,227 --> 01:02:00,347
Speaker 19: They grand final and they'll host it.

1207
01:02:01,427 --> 01:02:03,787
Speaker 16: Against the defending champion title a fight.

1208
01:02:04,467 --> 01:02:05,907
Speaker 15: They've beaten the Southern.

1209
01:02:05,707 --> 01:02:09,027
Speaker 2: High Hole Anddee. That was last weekend's semi final. So

1210
01:02:09,067 --> 01:02:11,347
Speaker 2: the Mainland poor Kai, isn't it the only The commentators

1211
01:02:11,347 --> 01:02:15,067
Speaker 2: said they're hosting the defending champion todong A FI in

1212
01:02:15,187 --> 01:02:18,347
Speaker 2: christ Church Carl Stadium and christ Church this afternoon tip

1213
01:02:18,387 --> 01:02:22,067
Speaker 2: off at three Poe Kai head coaches Alex Stoykovitch, who

1214
01:02:22,107 --> 01:02:24,227
Speaker 2: joins us now. Alex, thanks for taking the time on

1215
01:02:24,307 --> 01:02:25,627
Speaker 2: game day to have a chat to us. Can we

1216
01:02:25,667 --> 01:02:28,027
Speaker 2: start with that game? How happy were you with your

1217
01:02:28,067 --> 01:02:31,547
Speaker 2: win over the Southern hoy Hoo in the semis last weekend?

1218
01:02:32,227 --> 01:02:35,587
Speaker 8: Oh? Super happy. I was wout for somewhere to do

1219
01:02:35,667 --> 01:02:39,107
Speaker 8: it at home, and especially considering we've had a few

1220
01:02:39,107 --> 01:02:41,427
Speaker 8: players out injured. I was super happy and exciting.

1221
01:02:41,987 --> 01:02:44,827
Speaker 2: Have you managed to bring any of those injured players

1222
01:02:44,867 --> 01:02:47,267
Speaker 2: back or will you still be slightly depleted today?

1223
01:02:48,387 --> 01:02:51,107
Speaker 8: We're going to be depleted unfortunately. So Azra mcgodwick was

1224
01:02:51,107 --> 01:02:54,667
Speaker 8: the top Fen captain. She's unfortunately out and at the

1225
01:02:54,787 --> 01:02:58,227
Speaker 8: Foka and centers also out injured, so you know we're

1226
01:02:58,307 --> 01:03:00,107
Speaker 8: up against it a little bit. But I think we've

1227
01:03:00,147 --> 01:03:01,627
Speaker 8: shown in the last month of the season that we

1228
01:03:01,667 --> 01:03:03,427
Speaker 8: can manage them without those two.

1229
01:03:03,667 --> 01:03:07,187
Speaker 2: Going into semi final weekend last weekend and I know

1230
01:03:07,227 --> 01:03:09,227
Speaker 2: your semi final was the second of the two, but

1231
01:03:09,627 --> 01:03:11,907
Speaker 2: did you think you might be heading to Wellington? In

1232
01:03:11,947 --> 01:03:14,387
Speaker 2: other words? Was the fires went over the Tokamana with

1233
01:03:14,507 --> 01:03:16,187
Speaker 2: Queens are surprised to you.

1234
01:03:17,467 --> 01:03:19,707
Speaker 8: Not really, Like I thought the fight, we're actually the

1235
01:03:19,707 --> 01:03:22,547
Speaker 8: best team during the regular season. They just had like

1236
01:03:22,587 --> 01:03:24,787
Speaker 8: one injury to keep player at the last three regular

1237
01:03:24,787 --> 01:03:27,667
Speaker 8: season games that made him drop down the table a

1238
01:03:27,707 --> 01:03:29,827
Speaker 8: little bit. But like, no, I think I think they're

1239
01:03:29,907 --> 01:03:32,427
Speaker 8: really really good team work coached, and now that they're

1240
01:03:32,427 --> 01:03:34,347
Speaker 8: back at fourth strengths, they're definitely going to be a

1241
01:03:34,347 --> 01:03:35,067
Speaker 8: handful today.

1242
01:03:35,227 --> 01:03:37,107
Speaker 2: Well you know a lot about that team. Of course,

1243
01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:40,667
Speaker 2: you coached them last season to a maiden title. Does

1244
01:03:40,707 --> 01:03:44,507
Speaker 2: having coached the Fie help you today as you coach

1245
01:03:44,547 --> 01:03:47,227
Speaker 2: against them, Oh yes and no.

1246
01:03:47,467 --> 01:03:49,947
Speaker 8: Like obviously Tana who's the head coach, and I was

1247
01:03:49,987 --> 01:03:53,067
Speaker 8: my system last year and he started an incredible job

1248
01:03:53,107 --> 01:03:56,147
Speaker 8: as a team this year. There's some familiarity between the

1249
01:03:56,187 --> 01:03:59,507
Speaker 8: two teams, but you know, he's evolved their system a

1250
01:03:59,547 --> 01:04:02,147
Speaker 8: little bit and plays to their strengths. So it HAPs

1251
01:04:02,147 --> 01:04:03,547
Speaker 8: a little bit, but I don't think that's going to

1252
01:04:03,547 --> 01:04:04,467
Speaker 8: be the deciding factor.

1253
01:04:05,027 --> 01:04:09,347
Speaker 2: What was the thinking behind your move south? Tell us

1254
01:04:09,347 --> 01:04:11,507
Speaker 2: about the decision making that you went through to to

1255
01:04:11,547 --> 01:04:12,987
Speaker 2: take up the role in christ Church.

1256
01:04:14,867 --> 01:04:17,747
Speaker 8: Was probably mainly a lifestyle change. Like you know, I

1257
01:04:17,827 --> 01:04:19,787
Speaker 8: was there to five from day one had been set

1258
01:04:19,867 --> 01:04:21,867
Speaker 8: up the club and to be fair, you know, like

1259
01:04:21,907 --> 01:04:23,867
Speaker 8: that was a pretty intense three and a half four

1260
01:04:23,947 --> 01:04:27,027
Speaker 8: years and you know it's taking a bit of a toll.

1261
01:04:27,147 --> 01:04:29,307
Speaker 8: So I was looking for maybe like a you know,

1262
01:04:29,467 --> 01:04:32,587
Speaker 8: something a bit fresh and and and yeah, christ Church

1263
01:04:33,267 --> 01:04:36,147
Speaker 8: came up and I thought it was a great opportunity.

1264
01:04:36,187 --> 01:04:38,227
Speaker 8: So I'm so far glad that I moved down.

1265
01:04:38,587 --> 01:04:41,827
Speaker 2: Have you brought the same basketball principles to the Poorkui

1266
01:04:41,907 --> 01:04:44,747
Speaker 2: that you used at the Fire very similar?

1267
01:04:44,827 --> 01:04:47,187
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, like I've got my style of playing, my identity.

1268
01:04:47,187 --> 01:04:48,987
Speaker 8: I think that was one of the things that that

1269
01:04:49,307 --> 01:04:52,867
Speaker 8: the PARKI you know, liked about my coaching. And yeah,

1270
01:04:52,947 --> 01:04:55,187
Speaker 8: so trying trying to do the same or similar down

1271
01:04:55,227 --> 01:04:55,867
Speaker 8: here for sure.

1272
01:04:56,427 --> 01:04:58,307
Speaker 2: And just before we move on to your team, the

1273
01:04:58,427 --> 01:05:02,707
Speaker 2: fig of today, what are the specific threats that they

1274
01:05:02,747 --> 01:05:04,147
Speaker 2: will present to you in the final?

1275
01:05:05,067 --> 01:05:07,187
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, for SATUS got obviously a couple of

1276
01:05:07,267 --> 01:05:09,667
Speaker 8: key pieces back from last year, MICHAELA Cowling and then

1277
01:05:09,707 --> 01:05:12,227
Speaker 8: A Snyders, so they've got the championship experience, and then

1278
01:05:12,227 --> 01:05:16,547
Speaker 8: they've added a couple of great imports and Hannah Hank

1279
01:05:16,627 --> 01:05:19,147
Speaker 8: and Jess McDonald white and they bought in told for

1280
01:05:19,147 --> 01:05:21,787
Speaker 8: an Emmyshira. So they've got a very well balanced starting

1281
01:05:21,867 --> 01:05:24,467
Speaker 8: five that doesn't really have a lot of weaknesses. So

1282
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Speaker 8: you know, that makes it really difficult to game plan

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01:05:27,307 --> 01:05:28,867
Speaker 8: because you know, normally when you play a team, you

1284
01:05:28,867 --> 01:05:32,147
Speaker 8: can maybe help off someone, but but they're very, very good,

1285
01:05:32,507 --> 01:05:34,387
Speaker 8: well balanced team. So yeah, it's going to be a

1286
01:05:34,427 --> 01:05:35,067
Speaker 8: tough one for us.

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Speaker 2: I saw you on TV during the week and you

1288
01:05:37,547 --> 01:05:39,867
Speaker 2: said something along the lines without the team that shoots

1289
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Speaker 2: better is probably going to win. It sounds so obvious,

1290
01:05:42,227 --> 01:05:44,147
Speaker 2: doesn't it. But is that a big part of today?

1291
01:05:44,707 --> 01:05:47,067
Speaker 8: One hundred percent? And if you look at the semi final,

1292
01:05:47,187 --> 01:05:49,307
Speaker 8: they who actually played pretty good. We just shot the

1293
01:05:49,347 --> 01:05:51,547
Speaker 8: ball a little bit better. Ultimately, you know, we were

1294
01:05:51,867 --> 01:05:54,867
Speaker 8: nearly fifty percent from three in the semi which is great,

1295
01:05:54,907 --> 01:05:57,867
Speaker 8: and I think that's what ultimately made the difference. You know,

1296
01:05:58,067 --> 01:06:00,787
Speaker 8: like you can, you can game plan and scout and

1297
01:06:00,787 --> 01:06:02,867
Speaker 8: and and be as prepared as you as you want

1298
01:06:02,907 --> 01:06:04,827
Speaker 8: to be, but ultimately, the players have to have to

1299
01:06:04,827 --> 01:06:07,107
Speaker 8: make the shots on the court. And I truly believe

1300
01:06:07,147 --> 01:06:09,787
Speaker 8: the team that's going to convert better is going to win. Ultimately.

1301
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Speaker 2: Looking back at the season as a whole, Alex, you

1302
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Speaker 2: lost four of your first seven games, but you've won

1303
01:06:15,867 --> 01:06:18,507
Speaker 2: five of your last six, including the semi Was it

1304
01:06:18,667 --> 01:06:21,307
Speaker 2: just a matter of the players getting used to you

1305
01:06:21,347 --> 01:06:23,827
Speaker 2: early on, or did something else change mid season?

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Speaker 8: You know, Like it's always so hard to tell, you know,

1307
01:06:27,707 --> 01:06:30,427
Speaker 8: Like I'm honestly I'm not sure. You know, You've got

1308
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Speaker 8: your ups and downs in the season. You know, sometimes

1309
01:06:32,387 --> 01:06:34,587
Speaker 8: it takes a little bit longer to jail. You know

1310
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Speaker 8: that you've got injuries to deal with, and sometimes sometimes

1311
01:06:38,107 --> 01:06:39,947
Speaker 8: when players drop out, it actually gave a nice as

1312
01:06:39,987 --> 01:06:41,907
Speaker 8: the team a little bit. So now, when we lost

1313
01:06:41,947 --> 01:06:45,187
Speaker 8: two startups about a month ago, that's obviously a tough situation.

1314
01:06:45,347 --> 01:06:47,547
Speaker 8: And what I liked about the Scripto shots some real

1315
01:06:47,667 --> 01:06:50,027
Speaker 8: real resilience, you know, like every time every time we

1316
01:06:50,067 --> 01:06:52,307
Speaker 8: had a setback like that, we actually got closer together.

1317
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Speaker 8: So I think it's just a natural progression of a season.

1318
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Speaker 8: And because the season is so short, sometimes you've got

1319
01:06:58,667 --> 01:07:00,667
Speaker 8: a bad start. It looks bad, but it kind of

1320
01:07:00,667 --> 01:07:01,987
Speaker 8: evens itself out in the end.

1321
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Speaker 2: Indeed, how different is your preparation for knockout games compared

1322
01:07:06,747 --> 01:07:09,107
Speaker 2: to the way you prepare for a regular season game.

1323
01:07:10,227 --> 01:07:12,987
Speaker 8: We actually tried to keep it very similar, just purely

1324
01:07:13,027 --> 01:07:14,987
Speaker 8: because we want to take the pressure away from the group.

1325
01:07:15,027 --> 01:07:17,627
Speaker 8: You know, like obviously everybody understands the magnitude of a

1326
01:07:17,667 --> 01:07:20,427
Speaker 8: semi final or final, so the last thing I want

1327
01:07:20,467 --> 01:07:23,307
Speaker 8: to do is create more casha. So we've tried to

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01:07:23,307 --> 01:07:25,507
Speaker 8: go to business as usual. We've got on the preparation

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01:07:26,107 --> 01:07:28,667
Speaker 8: throughout the week. You know, we're bringing we're bringing like

1330
01:07:28,747 --> 01:07:32,707
Speaker 8: a scout team that simulates your position, and then and

1331
01:07:32,747 --> 01:07:35,667
Speaker 8: then we're just training against again as much as we can.

1332
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Speaker 8: And I suppose, if anything, we try to actually reduce

1333
01:07:40,147 --> 01:07:41,827
Speaker 8: the load a little bit in the semi final final

1334
01:07:41,867 --> 01:07:43,587
Speaker 8: because we want to be fresh on game day. So

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Speaker 8: you know, like earlier in the season, you're always thinking

1336
01:07:46,267 --> 01:07:47,947
Speaker 8: long term. You want to you want to push during

1337
01:07:47,947 --> 01:07:50,107
Speaker 8: the week, even closer to a game because you're thinking, okay,

1338
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Speaker 8: we've got to be ready in December. But now it's

1339
01:07:52,427 --> 01:07:55,587
Speaker 8: more about tapering, tappering down a little bit so we're fresh,

1340
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Speaker 8: fresh come come game time this afternoon.

1341
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Speaker 2: And this will be the last game at Cal's Stadium,

1342
01:08:01,027 --> 01:08:03,347
Speaker 2: which has been the home of basketball in christ Church

1343
01:08:03,387 --> 01:08:07,147
Speaker 2: for goodness me decades. How driven is the aim to

1344
01:08:07,267 --> 01:08:09,627
Speaker 2: win in the last game at this venue to send

1345
01:08:09,667 --> 01:08:10,467
Speaker 2: it off in style.

1346
01:08:11,427 --> 01:08:15,307
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course that's that adds motivation. It's it's last

1347
01:08:15,347 --> 01:08:18,667
Speaker 8: home gamm cout, it will be the first championship for

1348
01:08:18,747 --> 01:08:22,787
Speaker 8: the club. Like there's a there's a lot of motivating

1349
01:08:22,827 --> 01:08:26,307
Speaker 8: factors and obviously Canterbury has got a very proud basketball tradition.

1350
01:08:26,747 --> 01:08:28,987
Speaker 8: So yeah, now we definitely definitely want to send our

1351
01:08:29,067 --> 01:08:31,307
Speaker 8: tents bent into Christmas break with the title.

1352
01:08:31,667 --> 01:08:32,867
Speaker 2: And have you had the chance to look at the

1353
01:08:32,907 --> 01:08:35,667
Speaker 2: new parta Coorti Sports Center? I know the special Olympics

1354
01:08:35,667 --> 01:08:37,467
Speaker 2: have been on there all this week. Have you had

1355
01:08:37,467 --> 01:08:40,147
Speaker 2: the chance to look at where where the poor Ki

1356
01:08:40,307 --> 01:08:41,627
Speaker 2: will be playing next year?

1357
01:08:42,427 --> 01:08:45,027
Speaker 8: Yeah? Well I was invited for a tour. I think

1358
01:08:45,027 --> 01:08:47,147
Speaker 8: it was maybe a couple of weeks ago. And yeah,

1359
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Speaker 8: I mean it's a world class facility right at the

1360
01:08:49,107 --> 01:08:52,027
Speaker 8: heart of the city, so you know, like I always say,

1361
01:08:52,067 --> 01:08:54,987
Speaker 8: the best best stadiums are in the city, so you

1362
01:08:55,027 --> 01:08:56,827
Speaker 8: can go watch a game and have a dinner before

1363
01:08:56,947 --> 01:09:00,507
Speaker 8: after whatever, you know, to make it a complete, complete night.

1364
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Speaker 8: So so I think it's going to be amazing. I

1365
01:09:03,427 --> 01:09:06,387
Speaker 8: mean the events events will start there soon and I

1366
01:09:06,387 --> 01:09:08,347
Speaker 8: think it's going to be exciting for the basketball community.

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Speaker 2: Don't you wonderful Alex, well all the best of this afternoon.

1368
01:09:11,027 --> 01:09:13,307
Speaker 2: Congratulations on getting the poor Kuye to the final. I

1369
01:09:13,307 --> 01:09:15,107
Speaker 2: hope you can complete the job and go back to

1370
01:09:15,147 --> 01:09:17,827
Speaker 2: back with different teams. Thanks for chatting to us today.

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01:09:18,267 --> 01:09:19,147
Speaker 8: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate your time, Alex. Thanks indeed, Alex Stoykovich,

1373
01:09:22,347 --> 01:09:25,547
Speaker 2: the coach of the Mainland Porkai used to coach the

1374
01:09:25,547 --> 01:09:28,227
Speaker 2: Tongla on the Fire. That'll be an interesting little dynamic

1375
01:09:28,267 --> 01:09:30,867
Speaker 2: from this afternoon, although they've played each other three times

1376
01:09:30,867 --> 01:09:32,587
Speaker 2: this season, so it's not as that's the first time

1377
01:09:32,587 --> 01:09:34,867
Speaker 2: he's played his former side, but he coached the fig

1378
01:09:35,347 --> 01:09:38,067
Speaker 2: to victory last year. Can he go back to back,

1379
01:09:38,107 --> 01:09:40,147
Speaker 2: as I say, with a different team the Mainland Porky

1380
01:09:40,347 --> 01:09:42,987
Speaker 2: three o'clock s afternoon cal Stadium in christ jitch gee.

1381
01:09:43,067 --> 01:09:46,747
Speaker 2: That's been the scene of some pretty famous basketball Encountess,

1382
01:09:46,747 --> 01:09:50,227
Speaker 2: hasn't it? Cal Stadium final game? There in an elite

1383
01:09:50,227 --> 01:09:52,467
Speaker 2: sense anyway with the porkin and also the Canterbury Rams

1384
01:09:52,467 --> 01:09:56,947
Speaker 2: now moves moving to the Parti Courorti Sports Center as

1385
01:09:56,947 --> 01:10:00,707
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six, twenty one away from two, Let's

1386
01:10:00,707 --> 01:10:03,267
Speaker 2: get a breakaway when we come back. James mcconey with

1387
01:10:03,347 --> 01:10:07,947
Speaker 2: all sorts of things to discuss in his regular day slot, The.

1388
01:10:07,987 --> 01:10:11,907
Speaker 1: Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason Pine

1389
01:10:11,947 --> 01:10:18,067
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's Most Trusted home Builder News.

1390
01:10:17,707 --> 01:10:22,147
Speaker 2: Coming up eighteen to two Sunday afternoons about this time,

1391
01:10:22,347 --> 01:10:23,707
Speaker 2: James mconey, Hello.

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01:10:23,547 --> 01:10:25,667
Speaker 11: Mate, how are you poneying?

1393
01:10:25,667 --> 01:10:28,987
Speaker 2: You're right great? Thank you, very very good. Yes, looking

1394
01:10:29,067 --> 01:10:32,067
Speaker 2: forward to chatting a bunch of stuff with you. Can

1395
01:10:32,107 --> 01:10:34,787
Speaker 2: we start with the black Caps? What did you make

1396
01:10:34,827 --> 01:10:37,307
Speaker 2: of their win in Wellington? Were you happy with all

1397
01:10:37,347 --> 01:10:40,187
Speaker 2: of the moving parts behind the black Caps victory?

1398
01:10:41,027 --> 01:10:46,347
Speaker 11: Yeah, comprehensive. I'm a big fan of TikTok of tech now.

1399
01:10:46,427 --> 01:10:49,387
Speaker 11: I think that he's a player who can who can

1400
01:10:49,427 --> 01:10:52,067
Speaker 11: do something at test level. He's got that steepling sort

1401
01:10:52,067 --> 01:10:56,587
Speaker 11: of bounce and actually his test average bowling average I

1402
01:10:56,627 --> 01:10:58,467
Speaker 11: think I tweeted this out and proof from something like

1403
01:10:58,507 --> 01:11:01,067
Speaker 11: thirty six to twenty nine with that at four first,

1404
01:11:01,107 --> 01:11:04,947
Speaker 11: so he's he's down under thirty the magic number. So

1405
01:11:05,107 --> 01:11:09,027
Speaker 11: that was good to see. In Duffy as well, playing

1406
01:11:09,067 --> 01:11:13,547
Speaker 11: a really solid role there and dismissing getting those twenty wickets.

1407
01:11:13,907 --> 01:11:17,707
Speaker 11: But I was actually really interested in everyone's talking about

1408
01:11:17,747 --> 01:11:20,427
Speaker 11: kin Williamson closing in on ten thousand runs, and I

1409
01:11:20,467 --> 01:11:23,027
Speaker 11: was just just doing a bit of a comparison with

1410
01:11:23,347 --> 01:11:28,307
Speaker 11: Rachen Ravendra after nineteen tests, and actually Rachen is slightly

1411
01:11:28,347 --> 01:11:28,987
Speaker 11: ahead of Kine.

1412
01:11:29,587 --> 01:11:32,027
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I feel like Rachen could be anything he

1413
01:11:32,107 --> 01:11:34,747
Speaker 2: wants to be. Will there be enough Test cricket for

1414
01:11:34,827 --> 01:11:37,307
Speaker 2: him to play though, to get to to get to

1415
01:11:37,427 --> 01:11:38,587
Speaker 2: ten thousand.

1416
01:11:38,867 --> 01:11:42,747
Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly, that's the key question. I think our schedule, well,

1417
01:11:42,747 --> 01:11:44,947
Speaker 11: it's looking okay next year with it with a tour

1418
01:11:44,987 --> 01:11:47,347
Speaker 11: of England and then obviously we've got more tests than

1419
01:11:47,387 --> 01:11:50,387
Speaker 11: we've ever had against Australia at the back end of

1420
01:11:50,467 --> 01:11:54,147
Speaker 11: the year. So I think we've got four against them.

1421
01:11:54,947 --> 01:11:59,147
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, four tests four So three against England yea.

1422
01:11:59,147 --> 01:12:01,987
Speaker 2: I think three against England Magia, two or three against

1423
01:12:02,027 --> 01:12:05,427
Speaker 2: India here and then four against Australia. So at least

1424
01:12:05,507 --> 01:12:08,147
Speaker 2: nine and maybe ten in the next sort of twelve

1425
01:12:08,147 --> 01:12:09,867
Speaker 2: to fourteen months or so.

1426
01:12:09,867 --> 01:12:13,987
Speaker 11: So there you go. Rutchen at nineteen tests. So after

1427
01:12:14,067 --> 01:12:17,187
Speaker 11: nineteen tests, Kaine's average was thirty one. He had three

1428
01:12:17,227 --> 01:12:19,947
Speaker 11: tests centuries. Ruschan's got four centuries with an average of

1429
01:12:19,987 --> 01:12:22,587
Speaker 11: forty four. But then of course he was that incredible

1430
01:12:22,627 --> 01:12:25,387
Speaker 11: purple patch of canes where he was just smashing. And

1431
01:12:25,427 --> 01:12:28,227
Speaker 11: he's played one hundred and seven Tests now with thirty

1432
01:12:28,307 --> 01:12:33,067
Speaker 11: three centuries at an average of fifty four. So that's

1433
01:12:33,067 --> 01:12:36,027
Speaker 11: the thing. He does, smash, bang the dish around the place,

1434
01:12:36,067 --> 01:12:39,627
Speaker 11: and there's lowest averages against Australia Caines. So whether he

1435
01:12:39,627 --> 01:12:41,547
Speaker 11: wants to go back out there and improve on that

1436
01:12:41,667 --> 01:12:44,267
Speaker 11: next year, let's hope he does. I'd still want Caine

1437
01:12:44,267 --> 01:12:46,867
Speaker 11: to be there, but like you say, I think Rachen

1438
01:12:46,907 --> 01:12:50,387
Speaker 11: it's all ahead of him. There's the table's been set.

1439
01:12:50,467 --> 01:12:54,307
Speaker 11: But after that incredible victory where Rochan actually didn't play

1440
01:12:54,427 --> 01:12:57,187
Speaker 11: much of a role, I was just looking and thinking, well,

1441
01:12:58,147 --> 01:13:00,387
Speaker 11: the worst they can do is draw this Test series.

1442
01:13:00,547 --> 01:13:04,187
Speaker 11: Is it worth actually elevating someone and making a couple

1443
01:13:04,267 --> 01:13:07,747
Speaker 11: of changes on the batting side with a guy like

1444
01:13:07,827 --> 01:13:10,947
Speaker 11: Bevin Jacobs is averaging eighty for Auckland in this first

1445
01:13:10,947 --> 01:13:11,627
Speaker 11: class season.

1446
01:13:12,267 --> 01:13:12,427
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1447
01:13:12,507 --> 01:13:14,867
Speaker 2: And the other thing we spoke yesterday, and I'm sure

1448
01:13:14,867 --> 01:13:17,107
Speaker 2: you were doing more interesting things. We spoke yesterday about

1449
01:13:17,107 --> 01:13:20,267
Speaker 2: the refreshing of the New Zealand seam attack and the

1450
01:13:20,387 --> 01:13:23,507
Speaker 2: number of bowlers, and you mentioned Blair Tick, Michael Ray,

1451
01:13:23,627 --> 01:13:26,107
Speaker 2: you know, Zach Folks and others who have got opportunities.

1452
01:13:26,307 --> 01:13:28,387
Speaker 2: Then you look at the top five in the New

1453
01:13:28,467 --> 01:13:31,307
Speaker 2: Zealand batting order, take ruch and out of it. You know,

1454
01:13:31,387 --> 01:13:35,067
Speaker 2: Tom Latham, Devon Conway, came Williamson, Darryl Mitchell, can add

1455
01:13:35,067 --> 01:13:38,507
Speaker 2: will Young into this conversation as well, all over thirty.

1456
01:13:38,667 --> 01:13:41,827
Speaker 2: So at some stage the refreshing of the top order

1457
01:13:42,347 --> 01:13:45,507
Speaker 2: has to happen. You mentioned Bevan Jacobs, what about Reece Martre?

1458
01:13:45,547 --> 01:13:46,827
Speaker 2: You you'd be a big fan of his as well,

1459
01:13:46,827 --> 01:13:47,307
Speaker 2: wouldn't you?

1460
01:13:47,947 --> 01:13:51,227
Speaker 11: Exactly? I think Reees definitely needs to get a look

1461
01:13:51,267 --> 01:13:54,707
Speaker 11: in as well. But Bevan is because as a lower

1462
01:13:54,787 --> 01:13:58,067
Speaker 11: order back, or lower than Reece anyway, who opens. I

1463
01:13:58,147 --> 01:14:00,147
Speaker 11: just thought, I thought, well, you could actually speak him

1464
01:14:00,147 --> 01:14:02,547
Speaker 11: in there in a Test match like this because the

1465
01:14:02,587 --> 01:14:05,587
Speaker 11: next stop is England and then the next stop is Australia.

1466
01:14:05,787 --> 01:14:08,027
Speaker 11: So I I feel like it's a chance to get

1467
01:14:08,027 --> 01:14:10,107
Speaker 11: a young one in there and get them used to

1468
01:14:10,107 --> 01:14:13,707
Speaker 11: the five day game, and so either or I'd be happy.

1469
01:14:14,267 --> 01:14:17,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't, did you? I just loved Michael Ray's approach

1470
01:14:17,787 --> 01:14:19,547
Speaker 2: to this Test. Didn't you. I mean a guy who

1471
01:14:19,907 --> 01:14:22,387
Speaker 2: probably thought international cricket had passed him by. He wasn't

1472
01:14:22,387 --> 01:14:23,707
Speaker 2: gonna get the chance. He was just gonna be a

1473
01:14:23,747 --> 01:14:26,787
Speaker 2: very good domestic bowler with a wonderful headband. And here

1474
01:14:26,827 --> 01:14:29,867
Speaker 2: he was on test about charging and picking up sex wickets,

1475
01:14:30,147 --> 01:14:32,707
Speaker 2: looking like he loved every moment of it. I couldn't

1476
01:14:32,707 --> 01:14:35,587
Speaker 2: help but smile every time Michael Ray was involved in

1477
01:14:35,627 --> 01:14:36,387
Speaker 2: this test.

1478
01:14:36,627 --> 01:14:40,707
Speaker 11: I know it's a bit like Nieza, wasn't it for Australia.

1479
01:14:40,947 --> 01:14:44,507
Speaker 11: Just somebody who's a veteran, salt of the earth, pretty

1480
01:14:44,547 --> 01:14:46,507
Speaker 11: down to worth. I think you had Mitchell Hayes saying

1481
01:14:46,507 --> 01:14:49,307
Speaker 11: he's a car guy, you know, so he's got to

1482
01:14:49,307 --> 01:14:51,467
Speaker 11: love that he's a credits part of his life. But

1483
01:14:51,587 --> 01:14:55,587
Speaker 11: he's a bit of a petrol head. So I mean, yeah,

1484
01:14:55,667 --> 01:14:58,427
Speaker 11: it's I like those stories. I think that's that's cool

1485
01:14:59,387 --> 01:15:03,467
Speaker 11: on the batting front though, because I love a grizzled

1486
01:15:03,547 --> 01:15:05,827
Speaker 11: veteran bowler coming in. But on the batting front, I

1487
01:15:05,907 --> 01:15:09,307
Speaker 11: really like to see some you some fresh eyes, let's say,

1488
01:15:09,347 --> 01:15:12,867
Speaker 11: you know, with that with that slightly quicker reaction time.

1489
01:15:13,027 --> 01:15:15,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know rus Mardier went through a bit

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Speaker 2: of a lean patch but we've got another big one

1491
01:15:18,667 --> 01:15:21,787
Speaker 2: hundred I think in the last Plankets ther game. Kid's

1492
01:15:21,827 --> 01:15:24,027
Speaker 2: clearly got a lot of promise, So yeah, I would

1493
01:15:24,027 --> 01:15:26,347
Speaker 2: love to see him. As you say, it's a difficult balance,

1494
01:15:26,347 --> 01:15:28,227
Speaker 2: isn't it, because they don't play against the West Indies

1495
01:15:28,227 --> 01:15:30,547
Speaker 2: and Totonga the next time we played Test cricketers in

1496
01:15:30,587 --> 01:15:32,387
Speaker 2: England and the way they're playing at the moment that

1497
01:15:32,467 --> 01:15:34,547
Speaker 2: might not be quite as hard as maybe it's been previously.

1498
01:15:34,587 --> 01:15:36,947
Speaker 2: But then if you are going to blood guys into

1499
01:15:36,947 --> 01:15:39,667
Speaker 2: a team for a very tough format series in Australia

1500
01:15:39,667 --> 01:15:42,227
Speaker 2: next year, you kind of out of options really if

1501
01:15:42,227 --> 01:15:45,387
Speaker 2: you don't do it now or I guess mid year

1502
01:15:45,507 --> 01:15:46,027
Speaker 2: in England.

1503
01:15:46,827 --> 01:15:48,707
Speaker 11: Yes, now, the other thing I was going to talk

1504
01:15:48,747 --> 01:15:52,067
Speaker 11: to you while we're on Cricket Ponty was Basball being Yes,

1505
01:15:52,227 --> 01:15:55,187
Speaker 11: your listeners do think that Basball is dead. I agree,

1506
01:15:56,067 --> 01:15:58,667
Speaker 11: even just watching Ben Stokes and that partnership with Will

1507
01:15:58,787 --> 01:16:03,387
Speaker 11: Jackson digging in and showing that some regrets and resilience

1508
01:16:03,587 --> 01:16:07,547
Speaker 11: and stickability is required really to play his cricket. And

1509
01:16:08,707 --> 01:16:10,627
Speaker 11: it's all probably happened a little bit too late, but

1510
01:16:10,667 --> 01:16:13,027
Speaker 11: we'll wait and see, because it's a five Test series.

1511
01:16:13,507 --> 01:16:17,067
Speaker 11: But I think every team, every player. Every team has

1512
01:16:17,147 --> 01:16:20,827
Speaker 11: a player who's a dasher, who's strike rate is high,

1513
01:16:20,867 --> 01:16:23,067
Speaker 11: and of course the og of that is Vi Richards

1514
01:16:23,747 --> 01:16:25,947
Speaker 11: with the West Indies way back in the day, who

1515
01:16:26,347 --> 01:16:29,587
Speaker 11: was around the eighty six mark. And then you obviously

1516
01:16:29,587 --> 01:16:34,627
Speaker 11: everybody has their favorite Adam Gilcrest Sewag. Both Kansas really

1517
01:16:34,787 --> 01:16:38,147
Speaker 11: and now England have Harry Brooks. So let Harry be

1518
01:16:38,747 --> 01:16:40,907
Speaker 11: the Bears guy, you know, But the rest of the

1519
01:16:40,947 --> 01:16:43,787
Speaker 11: team really need to dig in because I think bas

1520
01:16:43,787 --> 01:16:44,387
Speaker 11: Wall is over.

1521
01:16:45,107 --> 01:16:49,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree at the very least temperate. You know,

1522
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:52,267
Speaker 2: you don't have to abandon the philosophy altogether, but I

1523
01:16:52,267 --> 01:16:54,667
Speaker 2: think it does need tweaking because it certainly isn't working.

1524
01:16:55,027 --> 01:16:57,067
Speaker 2: When you know, the first two tests take a total

1525
01:16:57,067 --> 01:16:59,147
Speaker 2: of six days and you'll lose by eight wickets and

1526
01:16:59,187 --> 01:17:01,267
Speaker 2: both of them, you know, something has to be at

1527
01:17:01,387 --> 01:17:03,307
Speaker 2: least altered a little bit for me. But I guess

1528
01:17:03,347 --> 01:17:05,627
Speaker 2: we'll wait and see what they decide to do once

1529
01:17:05,667 --> 01:17:07,467
Speaker 2: they get off the new beaches. Have you been to

1530
01:17:07,507 --> 01:17:09,507
Speaker 2: the Noos of Beaches? They're very nice beaches.

1531
01:17:10,067 --> 01:17:13,547
Speaker 11: No, but I didn't. Myre Brendan McCullum quite brazenly say

1532
01:17:13,747 --> 01:17:18,307
Speaker 11: that they prepared too much for the second day off,

1533
01:17:18,867 --> 01:17:23,307
Speaker 11: and the agress reaction was hilarious, like they just pretty

1534
01:17:23,347 --> 01:17:25,827
Speaker 11: much burnt hard and just went come on, you know.

1535
01:17:25,947 --> 01:17:29,187
Speaker 11: But I just if you met Brendan McCullum, he'd be

1536
01:17:29,227 --> 01:17:31,787
Speaker 11: just staring down and saying, no, I think we went

1537
01:17:31,827 --> 01:17:34,307
Speaker 11: too hard. We're going to have some days off in NUSA,

1538
01:17:35,227 --> 01:17:36,787
Speaker 11: which is nice. I mean they might be able to

1539
01:17:36,947 --> 01:17:38,587
Speaker 11: be able to catch some A League football if they

1540
01:17:38,867 --> 01:17:42,147
Speaker 11: venture around the place. I was just going to say, Poney,

1541
01:17:42,147 --> 01:17:45,147
Speaker 11: have a look at the the Phoenix game today, because

1542
01:17:45,187 --> 01:17:47,627
Speaker 11: I think they're building towards something quite cool this season,

1543
01:17:47,667 --> 01:17:50,827
Speaker 11: even though Awklan the f CEA have outshone them. The

1544
01:17:50,867 --> 01:17:55,027
Speaker 11: Wellington Phoenix. You know, they're down the foot of the table,

1545
01:17:55,067 --> 01:17:57,907
Speaker 11: but one one today and they spring back up into

1546
01:17:57,987 --> 01:17:58,667
Speaker 11: the top six.

1547
01:17:59,347 --> 01:18:02,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, the derby was only last weekend. It

1548
01:18:02,467 --> 01:18:05,587
Speaker 2: seems like about a month ago. The second derby. I

1549
01:18:05,627 --> 01:18:07,587
Speaker 2: don't know, I've I just had to check the calendar.

1550
01:18:07,667 --> 01:18:09,707
Speaker 2: Was I really up in Auckland at that derby last week?

1551
01:18:09,827 --> 01:18:11,947
Speaker 2: It appears as though I was. I feel as though

1552
01:18:12,187 --> 01:18:14,707
Speaker 2: this game today against Newcastle and next weekend against the

1553
01:18:14,747 --> 01:18:17,387
Speaker 2: Central Coast Mariners, two sides who are also sort of

1554
01:18:17,427 --> 01:18:19,947
Speaker 2: in the lower echelons of the table, are really really

1555
01:18:19,947 --> 01:18:22,067
Speaker 2: important for Wellington if they can get six points from

1556
01:18:22,107 --> 01:18:24,867
Speaker 2: these two games, the table is so tight, James, You're right,

1557
01:18:24,907 --> 01:18:27,147
Speaker 2: they could hit Christmas in the top six and be

1558
01:18:27,227 --> 01:18:28,707
Speaker 2: ready to springboard in the new year.

1559
01:18:29,307 --> 01:18:31,747
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's something good buring there. I think they've got

1560
01:18:31,787 --> 01:18:34,267
Speaker 11: people who can score goals. Even Alex Rufer is scoring

1561
01:18:34,307 --> 01:18:39,307
Speaker 11: goal So it's a new year, new Phoenix and there Olaway.

1562
01:18:39,387 --> 01:18:40,947
Speaker 11: Yeah MEI their keeper, who was a bit of a

1563
01:18:40,987 --> 01:18:45,787
Speaker 11: calamity last season, played the house down in the derby,

1564
01:18:45,907 --> 01:18:48,547
Speaker 11: so I'm looking forward to that. And just if you're

1565
01:18:48,547 --> 01:18:51,147
Speaker 11: an Arsenal fan out there as well, just as while

1566
01:18:51,147 --> 01:18:54,747
Speaker 11: we're on football, be very concerned because your team, even

1567
01:18:54,787 --> 01:18:57,307
Speaker 11: though you're at the top of the table, if anything

1568
01:18:57,347 --> 01:19:01,107
Speaker 11: happens to Kosaka, I don't think you're winning anything. That's

1569
01:19:01,347 --> 01:19:02,907
Speaker 11: how I feel about Arsenal.

1570
01:19:02,747 --> 01:19:05,187
Speaker 2: Right now, Well they played. You would have seen the

1571
01:19:05,347 --> 01:19:07,667
Speaker 2: game against Wolves or at least heard what happened in it.

1572
01:19:08,187 --> 01:19:10,467
Speaker 2: So Arsenal. Arsenal went a head through an own goal

1573
01:19:10,507 --> 01:19:13,507
Speaker 2: by Wolve, so have been utterly abysmal in the last

1574
01:19:13,547 --> 01:19:16,307
Speaker 2: little while in terms of the accumulation of points, so

1575
01:19:16,987 --> 01:19:19,147
Speaker 2: Arsenal's going to end with an own goal. Wolve scored

1576
01:19:19,187 --> 01:19:20,787
Speaker 2: in the ninetie to make it one. All look like

1577
01:19:20,867 --> 01:19:22,467
Speaker 2: they were going to get a very very well earned

1578
01:19:22,507 --> 01:19:25,227
Speaker 2: point at the Emirates Stadium, and then they scored a

1579
01:19:25,387 --> 01:19:28,347
Speaker 2: second own goal and Arsenal went at two to one.

1580
01:19:28,467 --> 01:19:31,347
Speaker 2: It's just a crazy, crazy series of events.

1581
01:19:32,187 --> 01:19:33,987
Speaker 11: Jesus on the end of a cross as well. I

1582
01:19:34,067 --> 01:19:37,547
Speaker 11: mean there's something in that, but we won't discuss it here. Jesus,

1583
01:19:37,627 --> 01:19:40,707
Speaker 11: I'm talking about he didn't quite get his head on

1584
01:19:40,787 --> 01:19:44,347
Speaker 11: the ball. It was an own goal. But the bakaya

1585
01:19:44,427 --> 01:19:46,467
Speaker 11: saka for the average punter out there, they go, oh, yeah,

1586
01:19:46,467 --> 01:19:48,587
Speaker 11: I think I've heard of him, and yeah. His most

1587
01:19:48,667 --> 01:19:52,187
Speaker 11: famous moment was missing a penalty in the Euro final

1588
01:19:52,227 --> 01:19:54,627
Speaker 11: against Italy a few years ago when he was nineteen.

1589
01:19:55,107 --> 01:19:58,347
Speaker 11: But now he's turned into this incredible, just really exciting

1590
01:19:58,427 --> 01:20:01,387
Speaker 11: winger and everything has to go through him.

1591
01:20:01,387 --> 01:20:01,547
Speaker 3: Though.

1592
01:20:02,227 --> 01:20:05,907
Speaker 11: Watching Arsenal, they need to expand their repertoire or to

1593
01:20:06,107 --> 01:20:08,827
Speaker 11: something about their playmaking, because I've got talent and I

1594
01:20:08,947 --> 01:20:10,947
Speaker 11: kind of would like them to win it. I know

1595
01:20:11,027 --> 01:20:15,667
Speaker 11: you're a Liverpool man, but they looked really shaky this morning.

1596
01:20:16,427 --> 01:20:18,827
Speaker 2: James, greater channers always should. We got one more time

1597
01:20:18,867 --> 01:20:21,187
Speaker 2: before Christmas next Sunday. Will you be available for that

1598
01:20:22,347 --> 01:20:23,507
Speaker 2: one more time?

1599
01:20:23,667 --> 01:20:26,067
Speaker 11: Let's start punk it, mate, Let's put helmets on and

1600
01:20:26,187 --> 01:20:28,147
Speaker 11: do it. Jee.

1601
01:20:28,827 --> 01:20:30,747
Speaker 2: I just hope that we could talk on the radio

1602
01:20:30,827 --> 01:20:33,147
Speaker 2: one more time. But I love the way you've segued

1603
01:20:33,147 --> 01:20:35,987
Speaker 2: into daft punk. Love it, James, Thanks mate. Eight Away

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1630
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1631
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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest boards issues

1632
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Speaker 1: on and after fields.

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1634
01:22:23,227 --> 01:22:28,267
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vane on your home of Sport Used.

1635
01:22:28,147 --> 01:22:31,827
Speaker 2: Talks two seven. This is Weekend Sport on News Talks

1636
01:22:31,827 --> 01:22:34,147
Speaker 2: AB a couple of studio guests between now and three.

1637
01:22:34,387 --> 01:22:36,227
Speaker 2: Matt Fijo is going to pop in. In fact, he's

1638
01:22:36,227 --> 01:22:40,827
Speaker 2: already here flying Kiwi's FC, the official All White supporters group,

1639
01:22:41,107 --> 01:22:44,507
Speaker 2: talking about how you get tickets for these World Cup

1640
01:22:44,547 --> 01:22:47,387
Speaker 2: games next year. And then one of the A League's

1641
01:22:47,667 --> 01:22:51,507
Speaker 2: super fans, Matt Vandenberg, who travels far and wide to

1642
01:22:51,627 --> 01:22:53,747
Speaker 2: watch Newcastle play in the A League. He's here in

1643
01:22:53,787 --> 01:22:56,307
Speaker 2: Wellington where I am to watch them play the Phoenix today.

1644
01:22:56,307 --> 01:22:57,387
Speaker 2: He's going to pop in on the way to the

1645
01:22:57,427 --> 01:23:01,507
Speaker 2: ground as well. So rather than keep our guests waiting,

1646
01:23:02,027 --> 01:23:04,027
Speaker 2: let's get in case you missed it out of the

1647
01:23:04,067 --> 01:23:06,947
Speaker 2: way after two. Every day on Weekend Sport we bring

1648
01:23:07,027 --> 01:23:08,787
Speaker 2: you up to date with things that might have escaped

1649
01:23:08,787 --> 01:23:12,107
Speaker 2: your attention in case you missed it. In Football's Premier League,

1650
01:23:12,587 --> 01:23:17,307
Speaker 2: Liverpool a desperately needed win, beating Brighton to nil thanks

1651
01:23:17,347 --> 01:23:20,867
Speaker 2: to a double from Ugo Ekiti k I send by

1652
01:23:20,947 --> 01:23:23,667
Speaker 2: my Salar. It's a dangerous Patrino.

1653
01:23:25,347 --> 01:23:28,707
Speaker 6: He's there, okay at the couple from Liverpool.

1654
01:23:28,667 --> 01:23:33,227
Speaker 2: And this were made by my shaller, assisted wonderfully from

1655
01:23:33,307 --> 01:23:36,387
Speaker 2: malt Sullen. It just the quiet the finish. He wasn't

1656
01:23:36,427 --> 01:23:38,787
Speaker 2: going to mess that. Chelsea stay in the top four

1657
01:23:38,867 --> 01:23:40,867
Speaker 2: with the two nil winn over Everton and.

1658
01:23:41,067 --> 01:23:44,827
Speaker 7: Pedro Netto may stop by Mikalenko a driving at the

1659
01:23:44,907 --> 01:23:47,227
Speaker 7: defender and getting the better of him as well.

1660
01:23:47,547 --> 01:23:53,907
Speaker 3: Turno Man gots and it was all down to the

1661
01:23:53,987 --> 01:23:55,187
Speaker 3: work of Pedro.

1662
01:23:55,027 --> 01:23:58,707
Speaker 2: Nazzo and Leader's Arsenal recovered from their blip last weekend

1663
01:23:58,787 --> 01:24:01,387
Speaker 2: with a bizarre two one win over Wolves. They can

1664
01:24:01,467 --> 01:24:03,747
Speaker 2: still grab another one here.

1665
01:24:11,627 --> 01:24:18,307
Speaker 3: Garrus heroes Gabby Jesus. It's a moment but he has

1666
01:24:18,427 --> 01:24:21,267
Speaker 3: been praying for for eleven months.

1667
01:24:22,027 --> 01:24:24,307
Speaker 2: Well it wasn't actually Gabby Jesus who scored. It was

1668
01:24:24,307 --> 01:24:27,307
Speaker 2: a known goal from Wolves, who interestingly scored all three

1669
01:24:27,427 --> 01:24:29,987
Speaker 2: goals in that game but still lost to Won and

1670
01:24:30,067 --> 01:24:32,547
Speaker 2: the Breakers winning streak and the Anbl's come to an

1671
01:24:32,667 --> 01:24:36,467
Speaker 2: end to twelve point defeat to Southeast Melbourne. Last player

1672
01:24:36,507 --> 01:24:36,667
Speaker 2: of the.

1673
01:24:36,707 --> 01:24:40,107
Speaker 20: Game from long rags, why not finish it with the

1674
01:24:40,187 --> 01:24:44,787
Speaker 20: next formation point on a very rich kake the Southeast

1675
01:24:44,827 --> 01:24:48,867
Speaker 20: Melbourne Phoenix now the nano from half court Banks are

1676
01:24:48,947 --> 01:24:51,987
Speaker 20: three to give his team a twelve point when Southeast

1677
01:24:52,347 --> 01:24:54,227
Speaker 20: ninety two New Zealand.

1678
01:24:53,947 --> 01:24:58,107
Speaker 1: Eighty from breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fails.

1679
01:24:59,707 --> 01:25:03,587
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason yin Newstalk zenby.

1680
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Speaker 2: Nine past two. The All White twenty twenty six feet

1681
01:25:06,867 --> 01:25:09,707
Speaker 2: of World Cup pool play schedule has been confirmed. They'll

1682
01:25:09,787 --> 01:25:14,827
Speaker 2: play Iran in Los Angeles and Egypt and Belgium in Vancouver.

1683
01:25:15,067 --> 01:25:18,627
Speaker 2: So how easy or not are tickets to get and

1684
01:25:18,787 --> 01:25:22,067
Speaker 2: what will they cost? Matt Fijos is the founder of

1685
01:25:22,187 --> 01:25:25,907
Speaker 2: the Flying Kiwi's FC supporters group. He joins me in studio.

1686
01:25:26,307 --> 01:25:27,987
Speaker 2: Let's start with the group. Matt, you're happy with the

1687
01:25:28,067 --> 01:25:29,867
Speaker 2: teams that the All Whites have been drawn against.

1688
01:25:30,627 --> 01:25:32,907
Speaker 21: Yeah, happy for us in terms of the teams that

1689
01:25:32,987 --> 01:25:36,787
Speaker 21: there's one, of course, really strong team, but there's two

1690
01:25:36,827 --> 01:25:38,587
Speaker 21: other games that you know, we can go in and

1691
01:25:38,707 --> 01:25:41,067
Speaker 21: have a go at and you only need really by

1692
01:25:41,147 --> 01:25:43,267
Speaker 21: my maths, I think three points would get you through

1693
01:25:43,307 --> 01:25:46,467
Speaker 21: as one of the best place third, which is new

1694
01:25:46,547 --> 01:25:47,427
Speaker 21: with the forty eight teams.

1695
01:25:47,547 --> 01:25:51,747
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, so how do traveling New Zealand football

1696
01:25:51,827 --> 01:25:55,907
Speaker 2: fans access tickets to these games? A very broad question

1697
01:25:56,067 --> 01:26:00,187
Speaker 2: to start with people listening, they're thinking about going. What's

1698
01:26:00,267 --> 01:26:02,907
Speaker 2: the situation with getting tickets to these games?

1699
01:26:03,307 --> 01:26:03,507
Speaker 11: Great?

1700
01:26:03,587 --> 01:26:08,467
Speaker 21: So generally the feet com have a ballot that anybody

1701
01:26:08,507 --> 01:26:10,467
Speaker 21: can enter from around the world. So that's where a

1702
01:26:10,547 --> 01:26:14,027
Speaker 21: lot of this fear of loss drives people because they've

1703
01:26:14,027 --> 01:26:16,667
Speaker 21: already reported that they've had five million applications within the

1704
01:26:16,707 --> 01:26:19,187
Speaker 21: first I think it was twenty four hours. So that's

1705
01:26:19,267 --> 01:26:22,427
Speaker 21: for all fans from anywhere who for example, if there's

1706
01:26:22,507 --> 01:26:25,107
Speaker 21: I don't know, a Brazil game or Argentina or Spain

1707
01:26:25,267 --> 01:26:28,227
Speaker 21: or England, you know there'll be fans from around the

1708
01:26:28,267 --> 01:26:30,587
Speaker 21: world that would want to apply for them. And this

1709
01:26:30,787 --> 01:26:34,347
Speaker 21: small piece of hope and soul in this is about

1710
01:26:34,427 --> 01:26:39,947
Speaker 21: eight percent of sellable tickets which get the allocation of

1711
01:26:40,027 --> 01:26:43,587
Speaker 21: them gets controlled by the member association, by the country

1712
01:26:44,147 --> 01:26:46,587
Speaker 21: that is playing, So for New Zealand, that's New Zealand

1713
01:26:46,587 --> 01:26:49,307
Speaker 21: Football and I think that's one of the most positive

1714
01:26:49,347 --> 01:26:51,907
Speaker 21: things here, and something that I've been planning and thinking

1715
01:26:51,907 --> 01:26:55,667
Speaker 21: about for quite a while is that you know, four

1716
01:26:55,707 --> 01:26:59,467
Speaker 21: thousand fans from New Zealand roughly doing the maths on

1717
01:26:59,507 --> 01:27:03,507
Speaker 21: that allocation seems like it, you know, there'd be a lot.

1718
01:27:03,587 --> 01:27:05,227
Speaker 21: I don't think we're going to have tens of thousands

1719
01:27:05,267 --> 01:27:08,547
Speaker 21: of applications. It sounds like there's more applications than tickets. However,

1720
01:27:09,987 --> 01:27:13,027
Speaker 21: going through FIFA and the general ballot with the whole world,

1721
01:27:13,067 --> 01:27:15,747
Speaker 21: there's a lot lower chance of tickets. There was five

1722
01:27:15,867 --> 01:27:18,867
Speaker 21: times the applications to tickets back in twenty twenty two,

1723
01:27:19,387 --> 01:27:21,427
Speaker 21: so that's a good chance. Because we're a small country

1724
01:27:21,547 --> 01:27:23,547
Speaker 21: that we still get the same eight percent that England do.

1725
01:27:24,067 --> 01:27:27,707
Speaker 21: But England have a big travel club of fans that

1726
01:27:27,827 --> 01:27:29,987
Speaker 21: go and watch all the games in between and earn

1727
01:27:30,067 --> 01:27:32,867
Speaker 21: points to get there. Ours is literally you can jump

1728
01:27:32,947 --> 01:27:35,227
Speaker 21: on any hour and how it will close I think

1729
01:27:35,307 --> 01:27:37,587
Speaker 21: later this evening. But New Zealand Football just have an

1730
01:27:37,627 --> 01:27:40,267
Speaker 21: open form that you can fill out in about twelve

1731
01:27:40,347 --> 01:27:43,187
Speaker 21: seconds with no cost, which means that all keywists can

1732
01:27:43,267 --> 01:27:45,387
Speaker 21: get in the ballot and ever and have a good chance,

1733
01:27:45,427 --> 01:27:46,347
Speaker 21: which is great all right.

1734
01:27:46,387 --> 01:27:49,387
Speaker 2: So that's not committing you to buying a ticket. That's

1735
01:27:49,427 --> 01:27:51,107
Speaker 2: just saying, hey, I'm interested, I want to go into

1736
01:27:51,147 --> 01:27:54,187
Speaker 2: the ballot, as you say, for one or more of

1737
01:27:54,267 --> 01:27:57,427
Speaker 2: the seats in the eight percent allocation that New Zealand

1738
01:27:57,427 --> 01:28:00,387
Speaker 2: Football get. As you say, the odds see much better

1739
01:28:00,467 --> 01:28:03,267
Speaker 2: than competing against the whole world, because I guess some

1740
01:28:03,347 --> 01:28:06,707
Speaker 2: people will just apply for tickets to any game, mightn't

1741
01:28:06,707 --> 01:28:08,947
Speaker 2: they if they live in Los Angeles, for example, I'll

1742
01:28:08,987 --> 01:28:11,827
Speaker 2: go along to watch you know, whoever's playing at so

1743
01:28:11,947 --> 01:28:14,827
Speaker 2: Far stadium. So let's come into the I mean, should

1744
01:28:14,827 --> 01:28:16,787
Speaker 2: New Zealand fans enter both have a bit of chance

1745
01:28:16,907 --> 01:28:19,907
Speaker 2: or are you is your suggestion the New Zealand football one.

1746
01:28:19,987 --> 01:28:23,507
Speaker 21: Really first you have to be careful applying for bolt both.

1747
01:28:23,587 --> 01:28:25,587
Speaker 21: So they have what they call a household rule, which

1748
01:28:25,667 --> 01:28:28,507
Speaker 21: means that if somebody has already applied through FIFA dot

1749
01:28:28,547 --> 01:28:33,307
Speaker 21: Com through the general ballot, then they can't also apply

1750
01:28:33,387 --> 01:28:35,827
Speaker 21: through New Zealand Football, so that would get denied down

1751
01:28:35,867 --> 01:28:38,627
Speaker 21: the line through New Zealand Football. So people need to

1752
01:28:38,667 --> 01:28:42,907
Speaker 21: be aware and very careful of that. And yeah, it's

1753
01:28:42,947 --> 01:28:47,627
Speaker 21: up to them about thinking how how to do that

1754
01:28:47,747 --> 01:28:48,827
Speaker 21: and work their way around that.

1755
01:28:49,027 --> 01:28:51,987
Speaker 2: So your advice, I think for New Zealand people listening

1756
01:28:52,147 --> 01:28:54,747
Speaker 2: is to go in the New Zealand Football ballot that

1757
01:28:55,227 --> 01:28:58,827
Speaker 2: seems to be the highest. I'd try to get tickets

1758
01:28:59,307 --> 01:29:01,387
Speaker 2: to one or more of these games if they're thinking

1759
01:29:01,427 --> 01:29:04,787
Speaker 2: of traveling. If they are successful in getting a ticket

1760
01:29:04,827 --> 01:29:08,107
Speaker 2: in the New Zealand ballot, are all those seats together.

1761
01:29:09,267 --> 01:29:11,787
Speaker 21: Yeah, so that's the good thing. Again. I almost refer

1762
01:29:11,827 --> 01:29:13,627
Speaker 21: to it as the small soul of football left because

1763
01:29:13,667 --> 01:29:15,947
Speaker 21: the rest it is literally out to you know, this

1764
01:29:16,107 --> 01:29:20,187
Speaker 21: high prices the world market, and then they're legitimized scoping

1765
01:29:20,267 --> 01:29:25,107
Speaker 21: because the official FIFA third party resale platform has no

1766
01:29:25,307 --> 01:29:28,947
Speaker 21: price limit and FIFA will take thirty percent total fifteen

1767
01:29:28,947 --> 01:29:31,427
Speaker 21: percent off each they say to make it sound a

1768
01:29:31,427 --> 01:29:32,067
Speaker 21: little bit nicer.

1769
01:29:32,187 --> 01:29:34,667
Speaker 2: So people can buy a ticket. Anyone in the world

1770
01:29:34,747 --> 01:29:37,587
Speaker 2: can buy a ticket and have no real intention of

1771
01:29:37,667 --> 01:29:39,547
Speaker 2: going to the game and then put it on FIFA's

1772
01:29:39,667 --> 01:29:44,707
Speaker 2: own ticket resale exchange platform and ask anything they like

1773
01:29:44,867 --> 01:29:45,107
Speaker 2: for it.

1774
01:29:45,707 --> 01:29:49,747
Speaker 21: Yeah wow, yeah, yeah, but yeah, in terms of the

1775
01:29:49,787 --> 01:29:54,187
Speaker 21: New Zealand tickets within that, I'm not sure if the

1776
01:29:54,307 --> 01:29:59,267
Speaker 21: rules change with that about transferring or selling, but yeah,

1777
01:29:59,387 --> 01:30:01,667
Speaker 21: it would certainly. If you think of games in the

1778
01:30:01,707 --> 01:30:05,387
Speaker 21: Premier League, for example, it's almost unsafe to turn up

1779
01:30:05,427 --> 01:30:07,387
Speaker 21: in the wrong place with the wrong shirt on, or

1780
01:30:07,387 --> 01:30:09,547
Speaker 21: even if you know you're a fan of the wrong team. Yeah,

1781
01:30:10,267 --> 01:30:12,227
Speaker 21: you know when fans turn up in home ends because

1782
01:30:12,227 --> 01:30:15,907
Speaker 21: it's easier to get a ticket, for example. So yeah,

1783
01:30:15,987 --> 01:30:21,267
Speaker 21: that's something that we, I guess are aware of. And

1784
01:30:21,307 --> 01:30:24,347
Speaker 21: there's a I guess a trust that he was wanting

1785
01:30:24,387 --> 01:30:24,547
Speaker 21: to go.

1786
01:30:25,107 --> 01:30:27,427
Speaker 2: Will there be a limit on the number of tickets

1787
01:30:27,507 --> 01:30:29,627
Speaker 2: one person can buy to each game.

1788
01:30:29,987 --> 01:30:33,267
Speaker 21: Yeah, so it's up to four tickets per person and

1789
01:30:34,187 --> 01:30:36,547
Speaker 21: forty tickets for the tournament. But I say that with

1790
01:30:36,627 --> 01:30:38,587
Speaker 21: a big smile, because who's got that money on their

1791
01:30:38,587 --> 01:30:42,707
Speaker 21: credit card to commit to those ticket prices times forty.

1792
01:30:43,467 --> 01:30:46,147
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about cost. There's been a lot of

1793
01:30:46,227 --> 01:30:48,667
Speaker 2: chat in the last a little while about about the

1794
01:30:48,787 --> 01:30:51,787
Speaker 2: cost of tickets that I don't think have been officially

1795
01:30:51,907 --> 01:30:54,067
Speaker 2: unveiled yet, but there seemed to have been a number

1796
01:30:54,067 --> 01:30:58,267
Speaker 2: of news sources who have talked about ticket prices. Some

1797
01:30:58,467 --> 01:31:02,427
Speaker 2: fan groups are calling this a monumental betrayal by FIFA.

1798
01:31:02,547 --> 01:31:06,147
Speaker 2: The price is just beyond the reach of many genuine fans.

1799
01:31:06,507 --> 01:31:06,627
Speaker 15: Much.

1800
01:31:06,707 --> 01:31:09,387
Speaker 2: Do you have an indication matter how much a ticket

1801
01:31:09,507 --> 01:31:11,147
Speaker 2: to watch New Zealand and a group match at the

1802
01:31:11,187 --> 01:31:11,987
Speaker 2: World Cup will cost.

1803
01:31:12,467 --> 01:31:16,467
Speaker 21: Yes, and the general FIFA ballot. The pricings are there.

1804
01:31:17,027 --> 01:31:21,027
Speaker 21: It's interesting that they vary by game based on the

1805
01:31:21,347 --> 01:31:24,867
Speaker 21: predicted value I guess of largely the teams that are playing. Obviously,

1806
01:31:24,987 --> 01:31:28,747
Speaker 21: so a Brazil game those higher prices I think, so Scotland,

1807
01:31:28,907 --> 01:31:32,507
Speaker 21: I think at Brazil, and that the higher price level

1808
01:31:32,547 --> 01:31:35,107
Speaker 21: I think is around seven or even eight hundred US.

1809
01:31:35,227 --> 01:31:37,787
Speaker 21: Up to that higher whereas the New Zealand game on

1810
01:31:38,067 --> 01:31:40,907
Speaker 21: free for dot com on the general ballot, the lower

1811
01:31:40,947 --> 01:31:43,667
Speaker 21: cost looks to be one forty to one eighty US.

1812
01:31:43,747 --> 01:31:47,707
Speaker 21: So the Belgium game a little bit more expensive up

1813
01:31:47,787 --> 01:31:50,027
Speaker 21: to the higher price point of four point fifty to

1814
01:31:50,427 --> 01:31:51,387
Speaker 21: five hundred.

1815
01:31:51,867 --> 01:31:55,427
Speaker 2: Dollars US dollars. Okay, so times what one point six

1816
01:31:55,507 --> 01:31:58,467
Speaker 2: one point seven at the moment for New Zealand dollars thereabouts?

1817
01:31:58,667 --> 01:32:01,427
Speaker 2: Not quite not quite double? Right, is that what we're talking?

1818
01:32:02,027 --> 01:32:02,227
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1819
01:32:02,267 --> 01:32:02,667
Speaker 15: Exactly?

1820
01:32:02,787 --> 01:32:06,787
Speaker 2: Okay, So how does that compare to previous World Cups?

1821
01:32:06,827 --> 01:32:09,027
Speaker 2: It seems a lot more expensive than previous World Cups,

1822
01:32:09,067 --> 01:32:10,867
Speaker 2: and in fact a lot more expensive than what was

1823
01:32:10,907 --> 01:32:15,067
Speaker 2: indicated when these three countries bid to host the World Cup.

1824
01:32:15,067 --> 01:32:17,027
Speaker 2: I think they had to give an indicative idea of

1825
01:32:17,067 --> 01:32:19,427
Speaker 2: what tickets might be, and they were talking about tickets

1826
01:32:19,467 --> 01:32:20,827
Speaker 2: for twenty thirty dollars US.

1827
01:32:21,507 --> 01:32:24,867
Speaker 21: Yeah, and that's it's disappointing, isn't it that that there

1828
01:32:24,867 --> 01:32:27,587
Speaker 21: can be these bid documents? What is the point if

1829
01:32:27,627 --> 01:32:29,947
Speaker 21: it can change this much? And I guess it is

1830
01:32:30,387 --> 01:32:32,227
Speaker 21: a few years. It might be eight years or so

1831
01:32:32,427 --> 01:32:37,427
Speaker 21: since those documents to win the rights, But yeah, what's

1832
01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:39,827
Speaker 21: the point off the you can't value or trust what's

1833
01:32:39,907 --> 01:32:45,347
Speaker 21: written on that piece of paper. And for future biting processes, yeah,

1834
01:32:45,707 --> 01:32:46,827
Speaker 21: that is tough to take.

1835
01:32:47,307 --> 01:32:50,627
Speaker 2: As we get closer to the games, will further tickets

1836
01:32:50,667 --> 01:32:53,107
Speaker 2: be released back? I mean there's always tickets that don't

1837
01:32:53,107 --> 01:32:56,267
Speaker 2: get picked up by sponsors, travel companies, whatever it is,

1838
01:32:56,667 --> 01:33:01,747
Speaker 2: even international allocations. Will further tickets be released? Do you

1839
01:33:01,827 --> 01:33:04,787
Speaker 2: think for these games? Closer to the games themselves.

1840
01:33:04,907 --> 01:33:07,707
Speaker 21: There's usually a four phase, which is I think a

1841
01:33:07,787 --> 01:33:10,347
Speaker 21: last minute they call it anyones that are left. I'm

1842
01:33:10,387 --> 01:33:14,027
Speaker 21: not sure if they deliberately hold back a portion for those.

1843
01:33:15,347 --> 01:33:18,107
Speaker 21: What's interesting and the process as well, is that there's

1844
01:33:18,107 --> 01:33:22,507
Speaker 21: already been two phases before the draw, so that then

1845
01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:24,267
Speaker 21: a's like you said earlier, someone who lives in the

1846
01:33:24,307 --> 01:33:26,187
Speaker 21: host city can say that I want to go to

1847
01:33:26,267 --> 01:33:28,747
Speaker 21: those games before they know the team. Sure, and we

1848
01:33:28,867 --> 01:33:31,027
Speaker 21: were neutral fans in twenty fourteen, so we just went

1849
01:33:31,107 --> 01:33:33,187
Speaker 21: for just random games and towns that we thought people

1850
01:33:33,187 --> 01:33:36,107
Speaker 21: wouldn't go to as much and got games that way

1851
01:33:36,147 --> 01:33:38,867
Speaker 21: and then found out later. So what's interesting is that

1852
01:33:39,107 --> 01:33:42,707
Speaker 21: some people have gotten early for games and they've paid

1853
01:33:42,947 --> 01:33:45,107
Speaker 21: higher than what those prices are now for the new

1854
01:33:45,187 --> 01:33:47,307
Speaker 21: Zealand games. Because now that it's been drawn that it

1855
01:33:47,427 --> 01:33:50,587
Speaker 21: might be New Zealand verse Iran, that isn't the you know,

1856
01:33:50,787 --> 01:33:53,027
Speaker 21: the most prolific game or the most well known game

1857
01:33:53,147 --> 01:33:58,987
Speaker 21: in football, they've paid more and so yeah, now they're

1858
01:33:59,027 --> 01:34:00,907
Speaker 21: actually cheaper now that the teams are known.

1859
01:34:01,107 --> 01:34:02,667
Speaker 2: Does that help us though? And that we are the

1860
01:34:02,707 --> 01:34:05,107
Speaker 2: lowest ranked team at this tournament, you know, not a

1861
01:34:05,187 --> 01:34:07,707
Speaker 2: high profile you know, as you say Iran, I want

1862
01:34:07,707 --> 01:34:09,867
Speaker 2: to talk about Iran and Los Angeles in a minute actually,

1863
01:34:09,907 --> 01:34:12,147
Speaker 2: but but you know, Iran, New Zealand on the face

1864
01:34:12,187 --> 01:34:15,067
Speaker 2: of it isn't a high profile game, so there won't

1865
01:34:15,067 --> 01:34:18,787
Speaker 2: be huge demands I guess globally for that game. So

1866
01:34:19,147 --> 01:34:22,187
Speaker 2: does that help a traveling New Zealand fan or a

1867
01:34:22,267 --> 01:34:24,627
Speaker 2: New Zealand fan looking for a ticket for that game

1868
01:34:24,747 --> 01:34:27,507
Speaker 2: or for the game against Egypt for example. For sure?

1869
01:34:27,547 --> 01:34:29,907
Speaker 21: I think like we're in such a unique position that yes,

1870
01:34:29,947 --> 01:34:32,987
Speaker 21: we're a small country, so our allocation will serve far

1871
01:34:33,067 --> 01:34:35,307
Speaker 21: more if our people wanted to go. So that's why

1872
01:34:35,427 --> 01:34:38,067
Speaker 21: the you know, the messaging is so important that people

1873
01:34:38,187 --> 01:34:41,347
Speaker 21: realize the New Zealand football ballot is an option. If

1874
01:34:41,427 --> 01:34:43,787
Speaker 21: not FIFA dot Com, you might be placed anywhere in

1875
01:34:43,827 --> 01:34:45,627
Speaker 21: the stadium, and then you would be there and see

1876
01:34:45,627 --> 01:34:47,987
Speaker 21: that section of the kiwis and be a little lost

1877
01:34:47,987 --> 01:34:49,307
Speaker 21: tray one up there somewhere crying.

1878
01:34:49,547 --> 01:34:51,427
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it, isn't it. You know, That's

1879
01:34:51,427 --> 01:34:54,907
Speaker 2: the beauty of football fandom is being there with others

1880
01:34:55,307 --> 01:34:58,227
Speaker 2: who are wearing the same colors as you, traveling away.

1881
01:34:58,587 --> 01:35:00,067
Speaker 2: You've done this, Matt, you know you've been part of

1882
01:35:00,067 --> 01:35:02,987
Speaker 2: the flying kiwis and all sorts of places where often

1883
01:35:03,027 --> 01:35:05,547
Speaker 2: there's just a little pocket of you. What is that

1884
01:35:05,827 --> 01:35:09,427
Speaker 2: like in there supporting the all whites away from home

1885
01:35:09,947 --> 01:35:12,867
Speaker 2: in a very small packet, a pocket of very passionate fans.

1886
01:35:13,067 --> 01:35:14,587
Speaker 21: I'll give me ears on the back of my neck

1887
01:35:14,627 --> 01:35:17,507
Speaker 21: actually when you explain it like that, because I think

1888
01:35:17,547 --> 01:35:21,467
Speaker 21: sometimes it's misinterpreted that it's about safety and that animals

1889
01:35:21,507 --> 01:35:23,467
Speaker 21: and they can't be separated, but it's actually about the

1890
01:35:23,547 --> 01:35:26,067
Speaker 21: right to, like you've just described, enjoy the game together

1891
01:35:26,467 --> 01:35:28,307
Speaker 21: and when you do that far from home, and for

1892
01:35:28,387 --> 01:35:30,307
Speaker 21: New Zealand, we are the furthest from home.

1893
01:35:30,547 --> 01:35:30,707
Speaker 8: You know.

1894
01:35:30,747 --> 01:35:32,707
Speaker 21: That's why I call us the most extreme away fans

1895
01:35:32,747 --> 01:35:35,747
Speaker 21: in the world, because the players are on the top

1896
01:35:35,787 --> 01:35:38,267
Speaker 21: of those lists of the most traveled players. So our

1897
01:35:38,307 --> 01:35:39,947
Speaker 21: fans for the World Cup, you know, are traveling the

1898
01:35:39,987 --> 01:35:43,067
Speaker 21: biggest distances and live around the world. So yeah, when

1899
01:35:43,107 --> 01:35:46,147
Speaker 21: you're able to do that, connected with the group and

1900
01:35:46,267 --> 01:35:49,467
Speaker 21: you meet others, and when it's somewhere so Norway two

1901
01:35:49,547 --> 01:35:52,107
Speaker 21: months ago, now it was only friendly. But when you

1902
01:35:52,187 --> 01:35:55,107
Speaker 21: get everyone there and you're staying in the same place,

1903
01:35:55,187 --> 01:35:57,307
Speaker 21: there's a few days of breaking the ice, getting to

1904
01:35:57,387 --> 01:36:00,947
Speaker 21: know each other. Yeah, it's what football is all about.

1905
01:36:00,987 --> 01:36:05,427
Speaker 21: You're representing your people together in a land far far away.

1906
01:36:05,507 --> 01:36:06,707
Speaker 21: It's a beautiful.

1907
01:36:06,467 --> 01:36:08,827
Speaker 2: Thing getting into the games. One thing, what about accommodation

1908
01:36:09,067 --> 01:36:11,947
Speaker 2: flights things like that, our accommodation price is likely to

1909
01:36:11,987 --> 01:36:14,307
Speaker 2: be hiked up in and around these games, in these venues.

1910
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Speaker 21: No, luckily people have been really fair and just kept

1911
01:36:17,027 --> 01:36:18,867
Speaker 21: the same prices, and so it's going to be all good.

1912
01:36:20,587 --> 01:36:22,987
Speaker 2: Wow, you almost kept the straight place.

1913
01:36:23,387 --> 01:36:29,027
Speaker 21: You almost kept the interview over. No, there's charts, isn't

1914
01:36:29,027 --> 01:36:31,787
Speaker 21: there of how much people have hiked up the prices.

1915
01:36:32,307 --> 01:36:36,027
Speaker 21: And it's it's tough, isn't it, Because it's in some

1916
01:36:36,147 --> 01:36:38,107
Speaker 21: ways it's it's the world we live in. But we

1917
01:36:38,227 --> 01:36:40,507
Speaker 21: know that it's on some level it's not right to

1918
01:36:40,707 --> 01:36:43,347
Speaker 21: just you know, put the prices up so much that

1919
01:36:43,467 --> 01:36:46,067
Speaker 21: it tests people, or to get the maximum price for

1920
01:36:46,267 --> 01:36:48,747
Speaker 21: someone that has something of value and to exploit it

1921
01:36:48,827 --> 01:36:52,947
Speaker 21: to the nth degree is tough. And again fee for

1922
01:36:53,027 --> 01:36:54,667
Speaker 21: a part of this from from the start, so the

1923
01:36:55,467 --> 01:36:58,427
Speaker 21: control of the major hotel chains and the host cities

1924
01:36:59,747 --> 01:37:02,907
Speaker 21: FIFA and from the start control and that supply, so

1925
01:37:03,027 --> 01:37:04,867
Speaker 21: a lot of them are locked up in big travel

1926
01:37:04,907 --> 01:37:08,787
Speaker 21: companies overseas. That then that we were getting quotes earlier

1927
01:37:08,787 --> 01:37:10,947
Speaker 21: on in the air for four hundred US a night,

1928
01:37:11,667 --> 01:37:14,747
Speaker 21: which is obviously ridiculous, but now when you look more

1929
01:37:14,787 --> 01:37:18,507
Speaker 21: into it, it almost seems cheaper. I think that's people

1930
01:37:18,707 --> 01:37:21,067
Speaker 21: having to buy in before they know where their team's playing,

1931
01:37:21,267 --> 01:37:23,627
Speaker 21: and buying blindly because these big companies have access to

1932
01:37:23,707 --> 01:37:27,467
Speaker 21: all sixteen cities. So yeah, now you can. Now you

1933
01:37:27,507 --> 01:37:29,067
Speaker 21: can pay for more if you want to.

1934
01:37:29,227 --> 01:37:31,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Hey stay with us, Matt, want to

1935
01:37:31,267 --> 01:37:33,307
Speaker 2: get more from your met Fie Jos, founder of the

1936
01:37:33,387 --> 01:37:36,107
Speaker 2: Flying Kiwi's on supporting the All Whites at the World

1937
01:37:36,107 --> 01:37:39,507
Speaker 2: Cup next year. Back in the twenty two past two the.

1938
01:37:39,587 --> 01:37:43,467
Speaker 1: Biggest things in sports are on Weekend Sports with Jason

1939
01:37:43,547 --> 01:37:46,827
Speaker 1: Pin and gjjubnomes New Zealand's most.

1940
01:37:46,707 --> 01:37:48,867
Speaker 6: Trusted home builder. News Talks theb.

1941
01:37:49,187 --> 01:37:52,187
Speaker 2: News Talks Therebing Weekend Sport two twenty five, founder of

1942
01:37:52,347 --> 01:37:55,187
Speaker 2: the Flying KIWISFC supporters group Matt fie Jos's and studio

1943
01:37:55,547 --> 01:37:57,747
Speaker 2: talking next year's fee for World Cup and supporting the

1944
01:37:57,787 --> 01:38:01,107
Speaker 2: All Whites over in the United States. Man, I guess

1945
01:38:01,227 --> 01:38:04,667
Speaker 2: sports fans here are used to travel packages as well.

1946
01:38:04,947 --> 01:38:07,107
Speaker 2: You know, typically with rugby, for example, if you want

1947
01:38:07,107 --> 01:38:08,747
Speaker 2: to go and follow the All Blacks on the Northern Tour,

1948
01:38:09,027 --> 01:38:11,747
Speaker 2: you buy a package which is flights, accommodation, match tickets

1949
01:38:11,747 --> 01:38:15,187
Speaker 2: and everything you need. Are there official travel providers who

1950
01:38:15,227 --> 01:38:18,747
Speaker 2: will be selling packages to kiwis, you know, which include flights,

1951
01:38:18,747 --> 01:38:20,947
Speaker 2: accommodation and match tickets as well.

1952
01:38:21,987 --> 01:38:24,827
Speaker 21: Yeah, of course, and you doing the football have a

1953
01:38:24,947 --> 01:38:27,587
Speaker 21: relationship with House of Travel, so naturally they will be

1954
01:38:28,067 --> 01:38:32,307
Speaker 21: selling and wanting people to jump on those. Like you're say,

1955
01:38:32,587 --> 01:38:35,587
Speaker 21: for people that have the budget of like twenty thousand

1956
01:38:35,587 --> 01:38:39,107
Speaker 21: almost SEMs cheap. Now for the total budget again when

1957
01:38:39,107 --> 01:38:41,187
Speaker 21: we're looking at it early on in the year, So.

1958
01:38:41,267 --> 01:38:44,267
Speaker 2: That's so sorry, Matt, that's twenty grand per person to

1959
01:38:44,387 --> 01:38:46,787
Speaker 2: get there and back and to Wall three games with flights,

1960
01:38:46,827 --> 01:38:47,987
Speaker 2: accommodation and tickets.

1961
01:38:49,307 --> 01:38:52,867
Speaker 21: That's probably without international flights. So wow, early on, Yeah,

1962
01:38:53,147 --> 01:38:55,827
Speaker 21: in the year when we're speaking to people that are

1963
01:38:55,867 --> 01:38:56,667
Speaker 21: selling these things, so.

1964
01:38:56,667 --> 01:38:57,987
Speaker 2: It could be twenty five So it could be twenty

1965
01:38:58,027 --> 01:38:59,827
Speaker 2: five grand per person that sort of thing, depending on

1966
01:38:59,827 --> 01:39:01,107
Speaker 2: where you're coming from in New Zealand.

1967
01:39:01,347 --> 01:39:03,587
Speaker 21: Yeah, which is wow, crazy money, isn't it.

1968
01:39:03,747 --> 01:39:03,947
Speaker 15: It is.

1969
01:39:04,227 --> 01:39:06,667
Speaker 2: It's just beyond the reach, isn't it. Of so many people.

1970
01:39:06,947 --> 01:39:11,187
Speaker 2: You talked before about other countries they have similar ballots.

1971
01:39:11,267 --> 01:39:14,107
Speaker 2: But I know the England if for example, as you

1972
01:39:14,347 --> 01:39:16,987
Speaker 2: alluded to before, it's based on how many games you've

1973
01:39:17,067 --> 01:39:21,387
Speaker 2: been to in the World Cup cycle, So they reward loyalty.

1974
01:39:21,547 --> 01:39:24,627
Speaker 21: Exactly, and I believe in that a lot. We're slightly

1975
01:39:24,667 --> 01:39:27,907
Speaker 21: different in New Zealand that because we're growing, you know,

1976
01:39:28,187 --> 01:39:30,667
Speaker 21: I do believe that also there should be some percentage

1977
01:39:30,707 --> 01:39:35,107
Speaker 21: of that available for any New Zealander, but I guess

1978
01:39:35,147 --> 01:39:38,827
Speaker 21: it's almost twofold to England. Then, Yeah, the percentage wise,

1979
01:39:38,907 --> 01:39:42,347
Speaker 21: the top seventy percent of attendance, I guess over the

1980
01:39:42,547 --> 01:39:45,907
Speaker 21: previous two year cycle they're guaranteed, So it means that

1981
01:39:46,067 --> 01:39:48,507
Speaker 21: before well as soon as those teams are drawn out

1982
01:39:48,547 --> 01:39:51,107
Speaker 21: of the draw, and as soon as the games are

1983
01:39:51,107 --> 01:39:54,227
Speaker 21: allocated to cities, those fans who have earned their way

1984
01:39:54,267 --> 01:39:56,667
Speaker 21: there by probably going to about fifteen games in the

1985
01:39:56,787 --> 01:40:00,227
Speaker 21: last two years home and away, they know they'll get

1986
01:40:00,267 --> 01:40:03,707
Speaker 21: a ticket because they've fulfilled the criteria, and they'll be

1987
01:40:03,827 --> 01:40:05,827
Speaker 21: visible what their banding is, at what points they have

1988
01:40:05,907 --> 01:40:08,427
Speaker 21: and how many people, so then they can start booking

1989
01:40:08,467 --> 01:40:10,627
Speaker 21: their travel and accommodation and have a better chance of

1990
01:40:10,667 --> 01:40:14,387
Speaker 21: getting there. The sad thing with that this time is

1991
01:40:14,467 --> 01:40:18,547
Speaker 21: that the prices are so high and they go exponentially up.

1992
01:40:18,627 --> 01:40:21,667
Speaker 21: I think I think a final ticket last time was

1993
01:40:21,747 --> 01:40:26,307
Speaker 21: six or seven hundred in Qatar for the cheapest, and

1994
01:40:26,427 --> 01:40:30,667
Speaker 21: now it's three thousand, three or four thousand pounds, So

1995
01:40:31,267 --> 01:40:33,787
Speaker 21: when you add up that's exponentially that it goes up

1996
01:40:33,907 --> 01:40:36,507
Speaker 21: through the tournament. Now, if a fan from a big

1997
01:40:36,547 --> 01:40:39,707
Speaker 21: country wants to attend all those games, they have to

1998
01:40:39,987 --> 01:40:44,947
Speaker 21: pay that money upfront, which again I think Ballpark was

1999
01:40:44,947 --> 01:40:47,467
Speaker 21: about seven thousand pounds, which is a crazy amount of

2000
01:40:47,507 --> 01:40:50,187
Speaker 21: money to go to what is now eight football games.

2001
01:40:50,987 --> 01:40:53,267
Speaker 21: But they have to pay it upfront, and then if

2002
01:40:53,307 --> 01:40:55,027
Speaker 21: their team doesn't make it, if they got knocked out

2003
01:40:55,027 --> 01:40:57,907
Speaker 21: in the sixteen. They would get a refund after the

2004
01:40:57,947 --> 01:41:01,067
Speaker 21: tournament minus a ten dollars charge.

2005
01:41:01,107 --> 01:41:04,827
Speaker 2: I think, wow, well, I mean because that's the other

2006
01:41:04,907 --> 01:41:07,067
Speaker 2: thing too. New Zealand could get out of this group,

2007
01:41:07,547 --> 01:41:11,507
Speaker 2: as you said before. So then then then what happens

2008
01:41:11,547 --> 01:41:14,907
Speaker 2: We find out who we're playing, but more importantly where

2009
01:41:15,027 --> 01:41:18,267
Speaker 2: we are playing, and then does the process then start again?

2010
01:41:18,347 --> 01:41:20,787
Speaker 2: You're going to ballot for those tickets for example.

2011
01:41:20,707 --> 01:41:22,947
Speaker 21: There are Yeah, it's a really good question. There's there's

2012
01:41:23,387 --> 01:41:26,307
Speaker 21: that ticket product I just described that England fans would

2013
01:41:26,467 --> 01:41:28,947
Speaker 21: likely want to hop on because if you're an England fan,

2014
01:41:29,387 --> 01:41:30,907
Speaker 21: I guess it might just go for the pool, but

2015
01:41:31,387 --> 01:41:34,667
Speaker 21: you know, ultimately you want to be there to win.

2016
01:41:34,747 --> 01:41:38,107
Speaker 21: There witness history, which they talk about a lot after

2017
01:41:38,187 --> 01:41:41,547
Speaker 21: them in their teen years exactly. But yeah, so this

2018
01:41:41,707 --> 01:41:45,387
Speaker 21: follow your team package, even with the LESIS prices, half

2019
01:41:45,427 --> 01:41:48,867
Speaker 21: of our guys want to to follow your team for

2020
01:41:48,907 --> 01:41:50,627
Speaker 21: the round of thirty two. So apply for the four

2021
01:41:50,667 --> 01:41:55,547
Speaker 21: games and then yeah, when it's knowing we would need

2022
01:41:55,627 --> 01:41:59,587
Speaker 21: one result, so one win. In my eyes, I'm quite

2023
01:41:59,627 --> 01:42:02,307
Speaker 21: sure that three points would be enough to be eight

2024
01:42:02,347 --> 01:42:06,307
Speaker 21: out of twelve top third place. But then again, there's

2025
01:42:06,587 --> 01:42:10,227
Speaker 21: just there's more complications and factors where that game might

2026
01:42:10,267 --> 01:42:12,947
Speaker 21: be played. We're lucky we're from a pool that the

2027
01:42:13,027 --> 01:42:17,107
Speaker 21: third place can only be in two different cities, and

2028
01:42:17,227 --> 01:42:20,187
Speaker 21: a second place would play the first place of US

2029
01:42:20,267 --> 01:42:23,307
Speaker 21: and Australia's pool, which would be incredible to play either

2030
01:42:23,347 --> 01:42:25,907
Speaker 21: of them, but particularly Australia. For me, that's like a dream,

2031
01:42:26,787 --> 01:42:28,547
Speaker 21: how good and I only imagine in it as a

2032
01:42:28,667 --> 01:42:29,267
Speaker 21: knockout game.

2033
01:42:30,427 --> 01:42:34,427
Speaker 2: Do you think some fans will go to the World

2034
01:42:34,507 --> 01:42:37,227
Speaker 2: Cup without match tickets and hope to get them on

2035
01:42:37,307 --> 01:42:37,707
Speaker 2: the ground.

2036
01:42:38,307 --> 01:42:42,587
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, look, so some of our guys have have

2037
01:42:42,787 --> 01:42:45,747
Speaker 21: bought flights in accommodation already. That's the as hard for

2038
01:42:45,827 --> 01:42:47,667
Speaker 21: New Zealand, been our first time to get all our

2039
01:42:47,827 --> 01:42:50,907
Speaker 21: ducks in a row and to have a full system

2040
01:42:50,987 --> 01:42:53,627
Speaker 21: like England to measure these things. We're lucky that news

2041
01:42:53,667 --> 01:42:56,147
Speaker 21: in a football are supporting us with an allocation so

2042
01:42:56,307 --> 01:42:59,827
Speaker 21: that you know, those dedicated fans who have traveled around

2043
01:42:59,867 --> 01:43:02,027
Speaker 21: the world in the last sixteen years between World Cups

2044
01:43:02,467 --> 01:43:06,827
Speaker 21: can have you know, some assurance. So yeah, so some

2045
01:43:06,987 --> 01:43:09,947
Speaker 21: fans have already booked flights and accommodation and obviously they're

2046
01:43:09,947 --> 01:43:13,827
Speaker 21: that dedicated that they'll find a way. It seems risky.

2047
01:43:13,907 --> 01:43:16,987
Speaker 21: But if you compare that to waiting for match tickets

2048
01:43:17,907 --> 01:43:20,187
Speaker 21: and the cost like you alluded to earlier, of flights

2049
01:43:20,227 --> 01:43:22,987
Speaker 21: and accommodation are going to rise a lot more. That's

2050
01:43:22,987 --> 01:43:27,067
Speaker 21: a lot higher price for the accommodation, So that's more

2051
01:43:27,187 --> 01:43:29,027
Speaker 21: likely to rise a lot in the next six weeks

2052
01:43:29,107 --> 01:43:29,227
Speaker 21: or so.

2053
01:43:29,387 --> 01:43:33,027
Speaker 2: And you talked about scalping before almost being legitimized through

2054
01:43:33,067 --> 01:43:37,307
Speaker 2: the resale exchange platform, but will we still find scalpers

2055
01:43:37,347 --> 01:43:41,427
Speaker 2: outside grounds with an open jacket and a pocket full

2056
01:43:41,467 --> 01:43:41,827
Speaker 2: of tickets?

2057
01:43:41,867 --> 01:43:41,987
Speaker 11: Hey?

2058
01:43:41,987 --> 01:43:42,747
Speaker 2: Boys, what about these?

2059
01:43:42,907 --> 01:43:43,107
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2060
01:43:43,107 --> 01:43:47,387
Speaker 21: I think it's slightly harder because the modern tickets these

2061
01:43:47,467 --> 01:43:51,307
Speaker 21: days are NFC, so they're linked to your phone. Yes,

2062
01:43:52,147 --> 01:43:54,867
Speaker 21: So I'm not sure if they're going to lock a

2063
01:43:54,947 --> 01:43:59,227
Speaker 21: time period where you can't do that or if not

2064
01:43:59,387 --> 01:44:01,147
Speaker 21: yet it might still be easy enough to do it

2065
01:44:01,227 --> 01:44:02,947
Speaker 21: and you just forward in an email that they receive

2066
01:44:03,027 --> 01:44:07,187
Speaker 21: in the links then on their phone. But yeah, like

2067
01:44:07,267 --> 01:44:11,267
Speaker 21: you said, they've legitimized it, so buying and sailing there'll

2068
01:44:11,267 --> 01:44:11,987
Speaker 21: be plenty.

2069
01:44:11,747 --> 01:44:14,347
Speaker 2: Of And I talked about demand not being necessarily that

2070
01:44:14,507 --> 01:44:17,507
Speaker 2: high for the Whites against Iran and Los Angeles in

2071
01:44:17,547 --> 01:44:20,907
Speaker 2: the first game, but doesn't Los Angeles have a massive

2072
01:44:21,387 --> 01:44:22,547
Speaker 2: Iranian population.

2073
01:44:23,027 --> 01:44:25,987
Speaker 21: It's incredible, isn't it When that came out and you're thinking,

2074
01:44:26,427 --> 01:44:29,507
Speaker 21: it's not possible. None of the pools had game at

2075
01:44:29,667 --> 01:44:32,947
Speaker 21: all their games outside of US, so that's not possible

2076
01:44:32,947 --> 01:44:37,267
Speaker 21: with the political situation of a run and the doubt

2077
01:44:37,387 --> 01:44:39,707
Speaker 21: on their part that fans will be able to freely

2078
01:44:39,867 --> 01:44:44,387
Speaker 21: enter without complications. Should we say so, then you think

2079
01:44:44,747 --> 01:44:47,027
Speaker 21: that's the game in the US, then maybe we're in luck.

2080
01:44:47,707 --> 01:44:49,747
Speaker 21: As an opponent. I would want it to be open

2081
01:44:49,827 --> 01:44:51,547
Speaker 21: and fair, because that's the key we values that they

2082
01:44:51,587 --> 01:44:53,947
Speaker 21: should be able to enjoy football. But yeah, when you

2083
01:44:53,987 --> 01:44:56,147
Speaker 21: saw that were drawn there, it would be easy to think,

2084
01:44:56,147 --> 01:44:58,467
Speaker 21: wouldn't it that great? They won't have many fans, And then,

2085
01:44:58,987 --> 01:45:01,587
Speaker 21: as you said, it turns out to many people it's

2086
01:45:01,627 --> 01:45:05,307
Speaker 21: actually called Taranngeles to Arrangeles. However you would say it

2087
01:45:05,667 --> 01:45:08,947
Speaker 21: because yeah it' it's the biggest center for Iranian people

2088
01:45:09,467 --> 01:45:12,067
Speaker 21: outside Iran. Why they say there's about half a million

2089
01:45:13,307 --> 01:45:16,787
Speaker 21: Iranians or maybe American Iranians maybe second generation or whatever. Now,

2090
01:45:17,427 --> 01:45:22,027
Speaker 21: so yeah, it's makes it very tough. So the FIFA

2091
01:45:22,147 --> 01:45:26,187
Speaker 21: dot com ballot, if you think that's has that similar

2092
01:45:26,227 --> 01:45:28,347
Speaker 21: population to Wellington, isn't it depending on if it's a

2093
01:45:28,387 --> 01:45:33,107
Speaker 21: region or city. So yeah, and they love football and

2094
01:45:33,467 --> 01:45:36,747
Speaker 21: they travel well, so that's like imagining that. Yeah, we

2095
01:45:36,947 --> 01:45:39,467
Speaker 21: just happen to have, you know, a World Cup game

2096
01:45:39,547 --> 01:45:43,667
Speaker 21: in Wellington for New Zealand. That's what would be competing

2097
01:45:43,707 --> 01:45:47,507
Speaker 21: within the FIFA dot com balot or the yeah, the

2098
01:45:47,587 --> 01:45:48,347
Speaker 21: secondhand market.

2099
01:45:48,587 --> 01:45:51,227
Speaker 2: All right, Well to circle back to finish, then, anyone

2100
01:45:51,307 --> 01:45:54,427
Speaker 2: listening to this who has any interest in even a

2101
01:45:54,507 --> 01:45:57,427
Speaker 2: passing interest and being at one or more of these

2102
01:45:57,507 --> 01:46:00,307
Speaker 2: games in June of next year, your advice is to

2103
01:46:00,907 --> 01:46:03,027
Speaker 2: is to go in the New Zealand football ballot. That's

2104
01:46:03,067 --> 01:46:04,387
Speaker 2: your your best piece of advice.

2105
01:46:04,947 --> 01:46:09,067
Speaker 21: Yeah for sure, and yeah, do that by today, so

2106
01:46:09,187 --> 01:46:11,227
Speaker 21: you're in with a chance through the new sual a

2107
01:46:11,227 --> 01:46:11,787
Speaker 21: football ballot.

2108
01:46:11,907 --> 01:46:14,467
Speaker 2: All right in JED football dot code audience is the website.

2109
01:46:14,507 --> 01:46:17,987
Speaker 2: Just follow your nose. It's not hard to find. And sorry, Matt,

2110
01:46:18,067 --> 01:46:20,467
Speaker 2: just to clarify, that doesn't get you a ticket, that

2111
01:46:20,827 --> 01:46:22,507
Speaker 2: gets you in the ballot. So when will people know

2112
01:46:23,107 --> 01:46:26,147
Speaker 2: that they that they have the opportunity to purchase tickets.

2113
01:46:26,227 --> 01:46:29,667
Speaker 21: Yeah, so they are giving codes out next week. It

2114
01:46:29,747 --> 01:46:33,427
Speaker 21: might be late next week. I believe, and then the

2115
01:46:33,587 --> 01:46:36,187
Speaker 21: codes that they give to people, you're halfway there, shall

2116
01:46:36,187 --> 01:46:37,907
Speaker 21: we say? So, then you can go through to the

2117
01:46:37,987 --> 01:46:44,907
Speaker 21: FIFA platform and submit your request and then in mid June,

2118
01:46:44,907 --> 01:46:48,507
Speaker 21: I think it's until thirteenth of June. January, thirteenth of January. Yeah,

2119
01:46:50,827 --> 01:46:53,747
Speaker 21: that then they can allocate them more or less.

2120
01:46:53,827 --> 01:46:55,947
Speaker 2: Okay, so you should know by the end of January

2121
01:46:55,987 --> 01:46:57,067
Speaker 2: whether you've got tickets or not.

2122
01:46:57,547 --> 01:46:58,187
Speaker 21: Yeah, exactly.

2123
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're excited.

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01:47:01,667 --> 01:47:04,027
Speaker 21: Excited, Yeah a lot. It's been a pretty intense last

2125
01:47:04,107 --> 01:47:07,587
Speaker 21: week or so when those prices are announced late, so

2126
01:47:07,627 --> 01:47:09,667
Speaker 21: I'm up late at night getting feedback from our guys

2127
01:47:09,787 --> 01:47:15,227
Speaker 21: and yeah, it's been pretty intense week. But yeah, like

2128
01:47:15,507 --> 01:47:18,187
Speaker 21: it's incredible to imagine, like you just described, not just

2129
01:47:18,227 --> 01:47:21,547
Speaker 21: in New Zealand overseas playing anywhere and some friendly but

2130
01:47:22,147 --> 01:47:23,827
Speaker 21: in the big stage in the World Cup first time

2131
01:47:23,867 --> 01:47:26,867
Speaker 21: in sixteen years. Yeah, football's come a long way in

2132
01:47:26,907 --> 01:47:29,227
Speaker 21: this country on the pitch and hopefully in the stands too,

2133
01:47:29,667 --> 01:47:31,627
Speaker 21: and hopefully we can show that and enjoy it with

2134
01:47:31,667 --> 01:47:31,947
Speaker 21: the team.

2135
01:47:32,067 --> 01:47:33,427
Speaker 2: Will do people find you on socials?

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01:47:33,467 --> 01:47:33,667
Speaker 15: Mate?

2137
01:47:34,307 --> 01:47:36,907
Speaker 21: So the flying key is FC, I think is probably

2138
01:47:36,987 --> 01:47:39,667
Speaker 21: the tag for most places. So Ye're pretty active on

2139
01:47:40,147 --> 01:47:43,107
Speaker 21: Instagram and being pretty deliberate with updating snippets of this

2140
01:47:43,147 --> 01:47:46,467
Speaker 21: info to help people along. So definitely connect there if

2141
01:47:46,467 --> 01:47:46,947
Speaker 21: you're interested.

2142
01:47:47,107 --> 01:47:49,827
Speaker 2: The Flying Key is FC on Instant and across other

2143
01:47:49,907 --> 01:47:52,107
Speaker 2: socials as well. Matt, great to see you mate, Look

2144
01:47:52,147 --> 01:47:55,547
Speaker 2: I hope this leads to an absolutely tremendous couple of

2145
01:47:55,587 --> 01:47:59,467
Speaker 2: weeks and maybe more in June. We'll look out for

2146
01:47:59,587 --> 01:48:00,107
Speaker 2: you in the stands.

2147
01:48:00,147 --> 01:48:00,307
Speaker 13: Mate.

2148
01:48:00,307 --> 01:48:01,267
Speaker 2: Thanks for popping in today.

2149
01:48:01,347 --> 01:48:02,867
Speaker 21: Thanks for your support. Party appreciate it now.

2150
01:48:02,907 --> 01:48:05,347
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming in Matt. Matt Fijos, founder of

2151
01:48:05,507 --> 01:48:08,747
Speaker 2: the Flying Key we FC supporters group. There's the best

2152
01:48:08,787 --> 01:48:11,427
Speaker 2: piece of advice NZED football dot co dot nz. Sign

2153
01:48:11,547 --> 01:48:14,707
Speaker 2: up to the ballot today. It finishes I think the

2154
01:48:15,307 --> 01:48:17,587
Speaker 2: sign up process anyway. Later on tonight you'll get a

2155
01:48:17,667 --> 01:48:22,347
Speaker 2: code next week and then's your opportunity to apply for

2156
01:48:22,467 --> 01:48:25,747
Speaker 2: tickets for the World Cup next year. Twenty four away

2157
01:48:25,747 --> 01:48:28,187
Speaker 2: from three. We're going to stay with football. Another studio

2158
01:48:28,267 --> 01:48:31,067
Speaker 2: guest Matt's has gone and another Matt's coming in. One

2159
01:48:31,107 --> 01:48:35,267
Speaker 2: of the A League's super fans, Matt Vandenberg. After this

2160
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Speaker 2: on weekend sport.

2161
01:48:36,627 --> 01:48:40,227
Speaker 1: Don't get caught off Signed eight eighty ten eighty Weekend

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01:48:40,307 --> 01:48:44,587
Speaker 1: Sports with Jason Paine and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most

2163
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Speaker 1: trusted home builder news Dogs NB.

2164
01:48:47,307 --> 01:48:49,787
Speaker 2: Twenty one to three. There are sports fans and then

2165
01:48:49,827 --> 01:48:54,627
Speaker 2: there are super fans. Matt Vandenberg supports a LEA football side,

2166
01:48:54,667 --> 01:48:57,867
Speaker 2: the Newcastle Jets, paced two hours aware from where he

2167
01:48:57,947 --> 01:49:01,387
Speaker 2: lives in Sydney, as well as being a season ticket

2168
01:49:01,427 --> 01:49:03,627
Speaker 2: hold of a home match as he travels to every

2169
01:49:03,787 --> 01:49:06,987
Speaker 2: away game as well, which means this and he'll make

2170
01:49:07,027 --> 01:49:09,667
Speaker 2: three trips across the Tasman in the space of a month.

2171
01:49:09,747 --> 01:49:11,387
Speaker 2: He was an Auckland to watch the Jets beat Auckland

2172
01:49:11,467 --> 01:49:13,667
Speaker 2: FC two one a fortnight ago. He'll be back there

2173
01:49:13,707 --> 01:49:16,667
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day. And today he's in Wellington to

2174
01:49:16,787 --> 01:49:19,747
Speaker 2: watch his beloved Newcastle take on the Wellington Phoenix. He's

2175
01:49:19,787 --> 01:49:21,747
Speaker 2: popped into the study on his way to the game.

2176
01:49:21,867 --> 01:49:23,227
Speaker 2: Welcome mate, great to see you.

2177
01:49:23,867 --> 01:49:26,027
Speaker 22: Partly they say never meet your heroes, but with you,

2178
01:49:26,107 --> 01:49:27,347
Speaker 22: I think it's a complete opposite.

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01:49:27,587 --> 01:49:30,987
Speaker 2: Ah well, I could almost say the same thing, when

2180
01:49:31,147 --> 01:49:33,787
Speaker 2: and how did you all love a fair? But the

2181
01:49:33,867 --> 01:49:35,067
Speaker 2: Newcastle Jets begin.

2182
01:49:35,467 --> 01:49:37,787
Speaker 22: So this was season two, when the A leagu had

2183
01:49:37,867 --> 01:49:40,867
Speaker 22: just just started, like you'd say, somewhat the glory days.

2184
01:49:40,907 --> 01:49:43,427
Speaker 22: And I'm a Sydney Roosters fan and a West Coast

2185
01:49:43,467 --> 01:49:46,187
Speaker 22: fan and during those the period of the two thousands,

2186
01:49:46,227 --> 01:49:48,227
Speaker 22: they were a very very they're very very good clubs

2187
01:49:48,227 --> 01:49:50,227
Speaker 22: and Sydney FC one and I was a bit of

2188
01:49:50,347 --> 01:49:52,907
Speaker 22: on the fence about whether I should support SINNFC and

2189
01:49:53,187 --> 01:49:55,107
Speaker 22: they ended up winning, so I said, no, we can't.

2190
01:49:55,227 --> 01:49:57,547
Speaker 22: We can't go for the winners three teams in a row.

2191
01:49:58,547 --> 01:50:01,907
Speaker 22: Season two I was, I was an observer, can observer,

2192
01:50:01,947 --> 01:50:04,987
Speaker 22: and then Nikki Cars scored that fantastic solo goal against

2193
01:50:04,987 --> 01:50:08,267
Speaker 22: Adelaide on a Friday night at Energy Australia Stadium and

2194
01:50:08,587 --> 01:50:11,867
Speaker 22: they were the team for me. And people have said

2195
01:50:11,907 --> 01:50:13,147
Speaker 22: it's a bit of a curse that I would have

2196
01:50:13,187 --> 01:50:15,067
Speaker 22: had a lot more success and a lot more less.

2197
01:50:15,107 --> 01:50:19,587
Speaker 22: Columbus traveled supporting Sydney, but Newcastle through and through my friends.

2198
01:50:19,387 --> 01:50:22,827
Speaker 2: And so when so have you always you've always gone

2199
01:50:22,827 --> 01:50:25,627
Speaker 2: to home games? But have you always traveled to awayne games?

2200
01:50:25,707 --> 01:50:28,507
Speaker 2: Or when did the sort of trend of yours of

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01:50:28,667 --> 01:50:30,987
Speaker 2: going to pretty much every away game begin?

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01:50:31,427 --> 01:50:34,427
Speaker 14: So I didn't as every Sydney side.

2203
01:50:34,507 --> 01:50:36,707
Speaker 22: I did a gap Yere in England in twenty twenty

2204
01:50:36,867 --> 01:50:39,307
Speaker 22: twelve and twenty thirteen and I moved to a team,

2205
01:50:39,707 --> 01:50:42,027
Speaker 22: moved to a suburb called Layton and the home team's

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01:50:42,107 --> 01:50:44,147
Speaker 22: Late and Orient, and there were about fifty or sixty

2207
01:50:44,147 --> 01:50:46,147
Speaker 22: faithfuls that would go up on down the country each

2208
01:50:46,187 --> 01:50:48,587
Speaker 22: week via train which is a lot more easier, and

2209
01:50:48,987 --> 01:50:50,587
Speaker 22: go and watch their team win. And I felt like

2210
01:50:51,107 --> 01:50:54,347
Speaker 22: a massive connection. So when I came home, I kind

2211
01:50:54,347 --> 01:50:56,547
Speaker 22: of felt a responsibility to see how I'd go one

2212
01:50:56,627 --> 01:51:00,147
Speaker 22: season just flying solo traveling. The problem is in Australia

2213
01:51:00,147 --> 01:51:02,227
Speaker 22: and New Zealand you have to fly everywhere to get

2214
01:51:02,227 --> 01:51:05,227
Speaker 22: to where you go to go. So I felt a

2215
01:51:05,267 --> 01:51:08,467
Speaker 22: responsibility and I just thought, you know what, we'll keep

2216
01:51:08,467 --> 01:51:10,307
Speaker 22: it up for as long as we can. And my

2217
01:51:10,467 --> 01:51:13,427
Speaker 22: parents somehow still love me, they're happy for me to

2218
01:51:13,507 --> 01:51:13,667
Speaker 22: do it.

2219
01:51:14,307 --> 01:51:16,267
Speaker 14: I don't have a lot of responsibility in my life.

2220
01:51:16,147 --> 01:51:19,867
Speaker 22: Yet, so yeah, it's I've been lucky enough to do

2221
01:51:19,947 --> 01:51:21,507
Speaker 22: what I do, and there's a lot of great A

2222
01:51:21,627 --> 01:51:26,507
Speaker 22: League supporters and I feel feel very blessed to be

2223
01:51:26,987 --> 01:51:28,867
Speaker 22: able to support the league as well as I can.

2224
01:51:29,067 --> 01:51:31,587
Speaker 2: Well, as you say, in the UK, there are trains

2225
01:51:31,627 --> 01:51:33,467
Speaker 2: and they take you pretty much everywhere, but this is

2226
01:51:33,507 --> 01:51:35,667
Speaker 2: an entirely different story. In the A League. There are

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01:51:35,707 --> 01:51:38,027
Speaker 2: four other teams in New South Wales, the Mariners, who

2228
01:51:38,067 --> 01:51:41,627
Speaker 2: I know you hate, Sydney FC, Western Sydney MacArthur, so

2229
01:51:41,667 --> 01:51:45,107
Speaker 2: they're pretty accessible. But teams in Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane, Perth

2230
01:51:45,187 --> 01:51:48,747
Speaker 2: two over here. Now, so how do you fund this

2231
01:51:48,947 --> 01:51:49,707
Speaker 2: passion of yours?

2232
01:51:49,987 --> 01:51:52,827
Speaker 14: So a great question. I'll reveal the secret.

2233
01:51:52,947 --> 01:51:56,987
Speaker 22: My mum is a dedicated thirty nine year international flight

2234
01:51:57,067 --> 01:52:01,267
Speaker 22: stewards wonderful. So the words of staff travel does work.

2235
01:52:01,587 --> 01:52:04,667
Speaker 22: It has sent me stranded a couple of times. But no,

2236
01:52:05,307 --> 01:52:09,907
Speaker 22: I'm very very fortunate and lucky to to get cheap

2237
01:52:10,067 --> 01:52:13,547
Speaker 22: flight tickets when I can. But also there's like I

2238
01:52:13,747 --> 01:52:15,907
Speaker 22: will credit myself, there are I do have to go

2239
01:52:15,947 --> 01:52:18,747
Speaker 22: around New South Wales and there's a lot of trips

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Speaker 22: up the Hunter which is the M one motorway which

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01:52:21,547 --> 01:52:24,387
Speaker 22: is known as the F three as well. I think

2242
01:52:24,387 --> 01:52:27,347
Speaker 22: it's a lot of dedication and look, the club has

2243
01:52:27,387 --> 01:52:28,907
Speaker 22: been very very good to me, and so is the

2244
01:52:28,987 --> 01:52:31,467
Speaker 22: league in a way. But no, the Jets do recognize

2245
01:52:31,507 --> 01:52:35,147
Speaker 22: the commitment I go through and I am I do

2246
01:52:35,307 --> 01:52:37,867
Speaker 22: credit for them to credit me. I guess, but no,

2247
01:52:38,027 --> 01:52:40,427
Speaker 22: it's just a dedication. Like and you know what, I

2248
01:52:40,507 --> 01:52:43,387
Speaker 22: get to meet so many fantastic individuals and there just

2249
01:52:43,987 --> 01:52:46,467
Speaker 22: there are. You could write a book about the legends

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Speaker 22: of a leagues and I think maybe one day I

2251
01:52:48,107 --> 01:52:50,587
Speaker 22: might have to do that, but not now.

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01:52:50,867 --> 01:52:55,347
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about your experiences when you travel. Are

2253
01:52:55,427 --> 01:52:58,627
Speaker 2: you ever the only traveling fan or do you normally

2254
01:52:58,747 --> 01:53:01,107
Speaker 2: have one or two others with you? I know here

2255
01:53:01,187 --> 01:53:03,347
Speaker 2: in Wellington today, for example, you've got a couple with you.

2256
01:53:03,467 --> 01:53:05,107
Speaker 2: Are you ever the only traveling fan?

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01:53:06,027 --> 01:53:09,787
Speaker 22: I can't pinpoint a on away day that I've just

2258
01:53:09,827 --> 01:53:11,867
Speaker 22: been the only solo because you get a lot of

2259
01:53:11,907 --> 01:53:14,667
Speaker 22: ex pats. For example, Perth you have a lot of miners.

2260
01:53:15,867 --> 01:53:17,507
Speaker 22: I think Adelaida, Brisbane you have a lot of beer

2261
01:53:17,507 --> 01:53:19,667
Speaker 22: and wine drinkers. So I'm sure they migrate.

2262
01:53:19,427 --> 01:53:22,787
Speaker 14: North and south. But no, I'm sure there's been Maybe

2263
01:53:23,587 --> 01:53:25,867
Speaker 14: I'll tell you what. There was one a in twenty thirteen.

2264
01:53:25,907 --> 01:53:26,627
Speaker 14: We played.

2265
01:53:27,987 --> 01:53:31,587
Speaker 22: At Westpac Stadium or the K tenor whatever you want

2266
01:53:31,587 --> 01:53:33,227
Speaker 22: to call it, and it was a Tuesday night game.

2267
01:53:33,307 --> 01:53:36,027
Speaker 22: Michael Bridges and Adam Taggett scored. We won two to one,

2268
01:53:36,187 --> 01:53:38,707
Speaker 22: which is it's like Hen's teeth winning in New Zealand

2269
01:53:38,747 --> 01:53:41,627
Speaker 22: for us, But yeah, there's been one or two. But

2270
01:53:42,267 --> 01:53:44,027
Speaker 22: if you're ever thinking about doing Await Day, whether you

2271
01:53:44,107 --> 01:53:45,867
Speaker 22: live in Auckland or New Zealand, or if somehow you

2272
01:53:46,027 --> 01:53:48,547
Speaker 22: stream in Australia, do it because if you win, it's great,

2273
01:53:48,547 --> 01:53:50,027
Speaker 22: and if you lose you just want to go home

2274
01:53:50,067 --> 01:53:50,387
Speaker 22: and cry.

2275
01:53:51,187 --> 01:53:51,267
Speaker 15: Well.

2276
01:53:51,307 --> 01:53:52,827
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask about the other fans, and you

2277
01:53:52,907 --> 01:53:56,307
Speaker 2: mentioned meeting other people in the UK again, sometimes you

2278
01:53:56,387 --> 01:53:58,227
Speaker 2: take your life and your hands going into the wrong

2279
01:53:58,307 --> 01:54:00,627
Speaker 2: place in the stadium. If you're away fan, do you

2280
01:54:00,867 --> 01:54:05,027
Speaker 2: typically mingle with opposition A League fans before and after games?

2281
01:54:05,667 --> 01:54:09,667
Speaker 22: It's it's a bit of not really a touchy subject

2282
01:54:09,667 --> 01:54:12,067
Speaker 22: anymore because back in maybe ten years ago, there was

2283
01:54:12,107 --> 01:54:13,907
Speaker 22: all about that I want to be the top guy,

2284
01:54:13,987 --> 01:54:17,707
Speaker 22: the hoogan who loves who. But no, look you'll find

2285
01:54:17,747 --> 01:54:22,107
Speaker 22: I think ten eighty percent you get good, good people,

2286
01:54:22,187 --> 01:54:25,707
Speaker 22: and like when you go to the Old Bailey and

2287
01:54:25,747 --> 01:54:28,467
Speaker 22: Wellington and you meet Wellington, you just feel loved, You

2288
01:54:28,547 --> 01:54:30,707
Speaker 22: feel home. Everyone wants to buy you a drink, They

2289
01:54:30,787 --> 01:54:34,947
Speaker 22: appreciate you coming over. I would put on record that

2290
01:54:35,027 --> 01:54:36,987
Speaker 22: I think Wellington is the best away to a purely

2291
01:54:37,027 --> 01:54:40,347
Speaker 22: for the hospitality. If you ever want to go to Perth,

2292
01:54:40,387 --> 01:54:42,867
Speaker 22: you had a great sun set at Rottenest or Codslow Beach.

2293
01:54:42,947 --> 01:54:45,267
Speaker 14: But no, most of the times you.

2294
01:54:45,627 --> 01:54:48,387
Speaker 22: Have some great away fans. And you know what, I

2295
01:54:48,427 --> 01:54:52,107
Speaker 22: don't hate the Marrors. I love to beat the absolute

2296
01:54:52,107 --> 01:54:53,547
Speaker 22: living piss out of them, if I can say that,

2297
01:54:53,987 --> 01:54:56,707
Speaker 22: But when before and after the game, I'll always have

2298
01:54:57,067 --> 01:54:59,307
Speaker 22: a drink with Marinith Stunts because they're just souch lovely

2299
01:54:59,387 --> 01:55:03,587
Speaker 22: people and they're hard workers. They're just like Novocastrians. They

2300
01:55:03,667 --> 01:55:04,987
Speaker 22: know what it's like to go through the good and

2301
01:55:05,067 --> 01:55:08,147
Speaker 22: bad times. But there are some absolute legends. I think

2302
01:55:08,187 --> 01:55:10,507
Speaker 22: I'll stop saying how good this league is and how

2303
01:55:10,507 --> 01:55:13,587
Speaker 22: the people are around it. But no, now you get

2304
01:55:13,627 --> 01:55:14,347
Speaker 22: some really good eggs.

2305
01:55:14,667 --> 01:55:16,827
Speaker 2: You've been to Auckland as well a couple of times

2306
01:55:16,907 --> 01:55:19,627
Speaker 2: now new addition to the A League. How do you

2307
01:55:20,147 --> 01:55:22,787
Speaker 2: compare a trip to Auckland to a trip to Wellington?

2308
01:55:23,307 --> 01:55:26,747
Speaker 22: First of all, on record, Wellington's a better city, but no,

2309
01:55:26,947 --> 01:55:30,427
Speaker 22: look what Auckland are doing at the moment. The club,

2310
01:55:30,547 --> 01:55:33,147
Speaker 22: the city has gotten right around their supporters and good

2311
01:55:33,187 --> 01:55:35,507
Speaker 22: on them. I'm heading there for New Year's Eve. If

2312
01:55:35,547 --> 01:55:37,467
Speaker 22: you've got any your suggestions call through on the line

2313
01:55:37,547 --> 01:55:40,707
Speaker 22: right now, but no, like the Auckland's a credit to

2314
01:55:40,707 --> 01:55:43,067
Speaker 22: the league. And obviously it was a shame the Kings

2315
01:55:43,587 --> 01:55:46,627
Speaker 22: and the early Auckland A League team never really worked out.

2316
01:55:46,667 --> 01:55:50,067
Speaker 22: But what they're doing, they're fantastic and they deserve their flowers.

2317
01:55:50,267 --> 01:55:52,787
Speaker 22: I hope they never win the league because I think

2318
01:55:52,787 --> 01:55:54,707
Speaker 22: their fans are a bit a bit on the high

2319
01:55:54,787 --> 01:55:57,667
Speaker 22: horse about it, and I know Wellington fans would never

2320
01:55:57,707 --> 01:56:00,747
Speaker 22: hear the end of it, so something I think.

2321
01:56:00,827 --> 01:56:03,587
Speaker 14: I think Auckland's a very very good club to have

2322
01:56:03,667 --> 01:56:05,187
Speaker 14: around it, and they fans are a credit.

2323
01:56:05,667 --> 01:56:08,107
Speaker 2: I think football fandom sports fandom as a roller coaster,

2324
01:56:08,187 --> 01:56:09,987
Speaker 2: right there are ups and downs, there's thick and thin,

2325
01:56:10,107 --> 01:56:12,627
Speaker 2: and there's been a lot of thin in recent times.

2326
01:56:12,707 --> 01:56:15,667
Speaker 2: For newcast Well it's been slim pickings. Look you you know, well,

2327
01:56:15,707 --> 01:56:18,347
Speaker 2: I remember when you won the A League. Think Andrew

2328
01:56:18,427 --> 01:56:21,427
Speaker 2: Duranty won the he got the men of the Joe

2329
01:56:21,507 --> 01:56:23,427
Speaker 2: Marsten Master middle in the final and then came straight

2330
01:56:23,467 --> 01:56:26,147
Speaker 2: to Wellington the following season. But and your hosted a

2331
01:56:26,227 --> 01:56:28,867
Speaker 2: Grand Final a few seasons ago. But it's been pretty

2332
01:56:28,867 --> 01:56:30,907
Speaker 2: slim pickings. Do you just accept that fandom is a

2333
01:56:30,987 --> 01:56:31,507
Speaker 2: roller coaster.

2334
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Speaker 22: I told my parents about eighteen months ago, I don't

2335
01:56:33,947 --> 01:56:36,707
Speaker 22: think the Jets will ever win another trophy and it

2336
01:56:36,827 --> 01:56:42,307
Speaker 22: disappoints me to say that. However, like I know, I

2337
01:56:42,347 --> 01:56:44,107
Speaker 22: don't know if it was Eric Cantona or someone someone

2338
01:56:44,147 --> 01:56:46,067
Speaker 22: said famous. You can you can cheat on you you

2339
01:56:46,187 --> 01:56:48,467
Speaker 22: so you can cheat on your workplace obviously, don't cheat

2340
01:56:48,507 --> 01:56:50,547
Speaker 22: on your partner, please, but you can never cheat on

2341
01:56:50,587 --> 01:56:52,627
Speaker 22: your football team. And you know what, I feel such

2342
01:56:52,947 --> 01:56:56,307
Speaker 22: a responsibility and I feel very grateful, like the Jets

2343
01:56:56,907 --> 01:57:01,867
Speaker 22: will always be my number one, but I'm very lucky

2344
01:57:01,987 --> 01:57:04,587
Speaker 22: and to win the Australia Cup this year, even though

2345
01:57:04,627 --> 01:57:07,107
Speaker 22: we might have had an easy draw, Auckland couldn't beat

2346
01:57:07,147 --> 01:57:10,987
Speaker 22: Hardelberg for the record, No, I it was awesome to see,

2347
01:57:11,427 --> 01:57:13,307
Speaker 22: you know what. I hope we win many more trophies

2348
01:57:13,427 --> 01:57:15,107
Speaker 22: and my kids can see them hopefully one day.

2349
01:57:15,147 --> 01:57:16,347
Speaker 2: But I don't think it will matter to you well,

2350
01:57:16,507 --> 01:57:19,507
Speaker 2: because you'll go regardless. When was the last time you

2351
01:57:19,587 --> 01:57:20,827
Speaker 2: missed a Newcastle game?

2352
01:57:22,587 --> 01:57:25,627
Speaker 22: I missed one actually this year from Perth because I

2353
01:57:25,667 --> 01:57:27,467
Speaker 22: played cricket and Newcastle the day before and I got

2354
01:57:27,507 --> 01:57:28,787
Speaker 22: hate strokes. So I sat on the couch and I

2355
01:57:28,827 --> 01:57:30,627
Speaker 22: was like, I'm not going. When was last time I

2356
01:57:30,667 --> 01:57:31,427
Speaker 22: missed an away day?

2357
01:57:32,187 --> 01:57:36,587
Speaker 14: Um, I couldn't tell you. I honestly couldn't tell you.

2358
01:57:38,907 --> 01:57:39,787
Speaker 2: So it's been years.

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01:57:40,987 --> 01:57:42,787
Speaker 14: I'd say it's been over five years that I've missed

2360
01:57:42,787 --> 01:57:43,347
Speaker 14: an away day.

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01:57:44,467 --> 01:57:48,787
Speaker 22: It's just a cracking experience, like you feel once again

2362
01:57:48,827 --> 01:57:52,907
Speaker 22: a responsibility to be there. And everyone knows Redwig Steve,

2363
01:57:52,947 --> 01:57:56,347
Speaker 22: who's the greatest A League away supporter on record. He's

2364
01:57:56,427 --> 01:57:58,107
Speaker 22: always at every game. He wears his red suit, he

2365
01:57:58,147 --> 01:58:00,627
Speaker 22: wears his red red wig and when he's on TV

2366
01:58:01,307 --> 01:58:03,547
Speaker 22: he deserves his flower as well. When I get a flowers,

2367
01:58:03,547 --> 01:58:06,027
Speaker 22: I think, please take me off screen unless you're saying

2368
01:58:06,067 --> 01:58:08,667
Speaker 22: good about me. But no, you know, I don't mind

2369
01:58:08,667 --> 01:58:10,227
Speaker 22: a bit of air time as well. It's always good

2370
01:58:10,267 --> 01:58:13,387
Speaker 22: to play back and put on the Facebook or the Instagram.

2371
01:58:13,667 --> 01:58:16,587
Speaker 2: What would you do if there was a significant family

2372
01:58:16,707 --> 01:58:19,947
Speaker 2: occasion which clashed with a Newcastle game. What's say one

2373
01:58:20,027 --> 01:58:22,827
Speaker 2: of your close family members was getting married, for example,

2374
01:58:23,307 --> 01:58:26,467
Speaker 2: on the day of a Newcastle Jets game. What would

2375
01:58:26,507 --> 01:58:26,667
Speaker 2: you do?

2376
01:58:27,227 --> 01:58:30,707
Speaker 22: Depends how good of a friend this person is. I'd

2377
01:58:30,747 --> 01:58:33,987
Speaker 22: say if it was a first family relative, I think

2378
01:58:34,107 --> 01:58:35,587
Speaker 22: the Jets would have to take a back seat. But no,

2379
01:58:35,867 --> 01:58:39,067
Speaker 22: I've missed a second cousin's weddings and I don't think

2380
01:58:39,067 --> 01:58:42,107
Speaker 22: I've missed a funeral touch Wood, but no, I missed

2381
01:58:42,107 --> 01:58:45,427
Speaker 22: my sister's twenty first birthday to flat to napier in

2382
01:58:45,947 --> 01:58:49,907
Speaker 22: I think it was twenty thirteen for a nil draw. Yeah,

2383
01:58:49,947 --> 01:58:52,707
Speaker 22: it wasn't the best experience and I got ridiculed on

2384
01:58:52,747 --> 01:58:57,587
Speaker 22: the way home. But no, look, I as you get

2385
01:58:57,747 --> 01:59:00,867
Speaker 22: grow older and wise, there obviously there will be responsibility,

2386
01:59:00,947 --> 01:59:02,667
Speaker 22: but it's just not happening yet.

2387
01:59:03,547 --> 01:59:05,467
Speaker 2: You flew in yesterday, you're out tomorrow. So a couple

2388
01:59:05,467 --> 01:59:07,347
Speaker 2: of nights here in Wellington this one. Do you often

2389
01:59:07,427 --> 01:59:09,267
Speaker 2: or ever just fly in and out on the same day?

2390
01:59:09,627 --> 01:59:11,067
Speaker 22: Yeah, you know what, I think the best away to

2391
01:59:11,067 --> 01:59:13,787
Speaker 22: eight is a fly and fly out because over past

2392
01:59:13,947 --> 01:59:16,267
Speaker 22: years the jets don't normally pick up the result we're

2393
01:59:16,267 --> 01:59:18,347
Speaker 22: looking for, and to be so far away from your

2394
01:59:18,427 --> 01:59:23,467
Speaker 22: bed it's not fantastic. Two weeks ago in Auckland, I

2395
01:59:23,547 --> 01:59:25,467
Speaker 22: actually did a fly and fly out, which was crazy.

2396
01:59:25,507 --> 01:59:27,667
Speaker 22: I wake up at four am, got home at eleven.

2397
01:59:28,947 --> 01:59:31,667
Speaker 22: It I don't know, I can say it pissed, but

2398
01:59:31,707 --> 01:59:34,507
Speaker 22: it pissed down with rain and I got the middle seats,

2399
01:59:34,507 --> 01:59:39,987
Speaker 22: sitting between two larger individuals and they felt soaked on

2400
01:59:40,067 --> 01:59:42,107
Speaker 22: their arms and I apologized and they were good about it.

2401
01:59:42,187 --> 01:59:46,667
Speaker 22: But yeah, honestly it's a great experience. But next time

2402
01:59:46,707 --> 01:59:47,787
Speaker 22: I might take a change of clothes.

2403
01:59:48,547 --> 01:59:51,467
Speaker 2: We've just been talking about World Cup and New Zealand

2404
01:59:51,507 --> 01:59:53,067
Speaker 2: fans traveling to watch the or watch Will you go

2405
01:59:53,107 --> 01:59:54,507
Speaker 2: and watch the soccer as the World Cup? Does your

2406
01:59:54,507 --> 01:59:55,267
Speaker 2: fandom extend to that.

2407
01:59:55,307 --> 01:59:57,187
Speaker 22: I don't feel a responsibility of the soccer is And

2408
01:59:58,227 --> 02:00:02,787
Speaker 22: I was there in two thousand and five when Bresciano

2409
02:00:03,667 --> 02:00:07,467
Speaker 22: and Mark Schwartz and John Aloissi, and that was kind

2410
02:00:07,467 --> 02:00:10,067
Speaker 22: of awesome. That was before the A League. I've always

2411
02:00:10,347 --> 02:00:13,267
Speaker 22: thought club over country. And once again, I hope you

2412
02:00:13,347 --> 02:00:14,107
Speaker 22: know what, I don't really.

2413
02:00:13,947 --> 02:00:15,627
Speaker 14: Care how the software is go this year is sorry

2414
02:00:15,667 --> 02:00:17,827
Speaker 14: next year, but I hope we beat America. That's all

2415
02:00:17,867 --> 02:00:18,467
Speaker 14: I care about.

2416
02:00:20,787 --> 02:00:22,627
Speaker 22: I don't need to get political, but it is a

2417
02:00:22,667 --> 02:00:24,427
Speaker 22: shame what's happening over there with the ticket prices and

2418
02:00:24,467 --> 02:00:27,667
Speaker 22: accommodation prices. So for me, I think you could do

2419
02:00:28,107 --> 02:00:31,387
Speaker 22: for two weeks over there. You could probably find a

2420
02:00:31,427 --> 02:00:33,747
Speaker 22: couple of A League away seasons. So for me and Obviously,

2421
02:00:33,787 --> 02:00:35,547
Speaker 22: the Jets are playing an Asia this year next year,

2422
02:00:35,587 --> 02:00:38,307
Speaker 22: which is great. So now three away days in Asia,

2423
02:00:38,427 --> 02:00:40,187
Speaker 22: maybe Bali from Hong Kong.

2424
02:00:40,547 --> 02:00:41,187
Speaker 14: I'd rather do that.

2425
02:00:41,387 --> 02:00:43,347
Speaker 2: I fear for you. I fear for the good people

2426
02:00:43,387 --> 02:00:46,067
Speaker 2: of Bali of us as well. No, man, it's great

2427
02:00:46,107 --> 02:00:48,587
Speaker 2: to see You've aiden you talked about Redwig Steve Adelaide United.

2428
02:00:48,627 --> 02:00:50,627
Speaker 2: It's most passionate fan. I think you're in the same

2429
02:00:50,667 --> 02:00:53,147
Speaker 2: issue or mate. It's been awesome to get the chance

2430
02:00:53,227 --> 02:00:55,027
Speaker 2: to know you, to see you over here so often,

2431
02:00:55,067 --> 02:00:56,307
Speaker 2: and to see you in the studio today.

2432
02:00:56,307 --> 02:00:56,467
Speaker 8: Mate.

2433
02:00:56,467 --> 02:00:58,587
Speaker 2: I hope the Jets get the result you're after this afternoon.

2434
02:00:58,987 --> 02:00:59,867
Speaker 14: Do you have a score prediction?

2435
02:00:59,947 --> 02:01:02,587
Speaker 2: Piney, I don't have a score prediction for you. Do

2436
02:01:02,667 --> 02:01:03,867
Speaker 2: you have aol A score prediction?

2437
02:01:03,987 --> 02:01:06,827
Speaker 22: You know what, I'm actually really confident. I think the moment,

2438
02:01:06,947 --> 02:01:11,467
Speaker 22: with Wellington's injuries, they don't necessarily have the power up front.

2439
02:01:11,547 --> 02:01:14,587
Speaker 22: I know they've got a great, great player, but I

2440
02:01:14,627 --> 02:01:16,747
Speaker 22: don't think they're gonna He's gonna have the steps. And

2441
02:01:16,867 --> 02:01:18,787
Speaker 22: for us, I think it's we're a bit weaker in defense,

2442
02:01:18,867 --> 02:01:20,667
Speaker 22: so I think it's going to be who blinks first.

2443
02:01:21,067 --> 02:01:23,547
Speaker 14: I will say Jets three to one. But I'm sure

2444
02:01:23,627 --> 02:01:24,547
Speaker 14: this will come back to bite me.

2445
02:01:24,667 --> 02:01:26,587
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It may it may do, it

2446
02:01:26,747 --> 02:01:29,347
Speaker 2: may not. You never, you can never predict predicting.

2447
02:01:30,187 --> 02:01:32,267
Speaker 14: Can I just say? Have you got the greatest family

2448
02:01:32,307 --> 02:01:32,827
Speaker 14: of all time?

2449
02:01:32,947 --> 02:01:36,627
Speaker 22: Have you got the most your daughter and your wife,

2450
02:01:36,707 --> 02:01:38,707
Speaker 22: great dancing partners, your son's on his way to the.

2451
02:01:38,747 --> 02:01:41,227
Speaker 14: NBA, and you're just you've got a head for radio.

2452
02:01:41,307 --> 02:01:42,427
Speaker 14: But you do a bloody good job.

2453
02:01:43,107 --> 02:01:47,427
Speaker 2: I'm certainly the I'm certainly the underachiever of my family.

2454
02:01:47,547 --> 02:01:48,387
Speaker 2: Matt put it that way.

2455
02:01:48,587 --> 02:01:48,747
Speaker 8: Mate.

2456
02:01:48,787 --> 02:01:51,227
Speaker 2: Great to see you, Thanks for stopping and all the business. Afternoon,

2457
02:01:51,267 --> 02:01:52,027
Speaker 2: same time next year.

2458
02:01:52,787 --> 02:01:53,187
Speaker 8: Why not?

2459
02:01:53,987 --> 02:01:54,307
Speaker 16: Why not?

2460
02:01:54,587 --> 02:01:57,147
Speaker 2: Well, I know you're going to be here. Matt Vandenberg,

2461
02:01:57,387 --> 02:02:00,547
Speaker 2: one of the greats, one of the A League's super fans.

2462
02:02:01,187 --> 02:02:04,147
Speaker 2: Ate away from three News Talks. When it's down to

2463
02:02:04,267 --> 02:02:05,667
Speaker 2: the line, you made a call.

2464
02:02:05,827 --> 02:02:11,187
Speaker 1: Hold on ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pine, News Talks, Envy.

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02:02:11,587 --> 02:02:13,827
Speaker 2: Five to three. That's us on weekend Sport for today

2466
02:02:13,867 --> 02:02:15,867
Speaker 2: and for the weekend, and beverage on your radio after

2467
02:02:15,987 --> 02:02:18,587
Speaker 2: three with the Sunday edition off the weekend. Collecti've been

2468
02:02:18,627 --> 02:02:20,347
Speaker 2: great fun bringing you. The show's out the last couple

2469
02:02:20,387 --> 02:02:22,107
Speaker 2: of days. We're back again next weekend. We want to

2470
02:02:22,107 --> 02:02:24,147
Speaker 2: say we're back. I'm back. This is it for Andy.

2471
02:02:24,187 --> 02:02:27,867
Speaker 2: Andy is off to Adelaide to watch the Ashes Day one, two,

2472
02:02:28,067 --> 02:02:31,147
Speaker 2: hopefully three and four as well. And that's it for

2473
02:02:31,227 --> 02:02:33,667
Speaker 2: you this year, I think, Andy, so mate, amazing work

2474
02:02:33,707 --> 02:02:35,667
Speaker 2: from you. Thank you so much for all you have

2475
02:02:35,827 --> 02:02:39,387
Speaker 2: done for the Weekend Sport audience in twenty twenty five.

2476
02:02:39,427 --> 02:02:43,347
Speaker 2: I'll look forward to rekindling our working relationship in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. And to send you off, You're off to

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Speaker 2: Adelaide and Adelaide's favorite Sun. As far as music is concerned,

2479
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Speaker 2: as of course, Jimmy Barnes, so a bit of Barnesy

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Speaker 2: upfront for Cold Chisel, Flame Trees, sending us out. Stay well, mate,

2481
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Speaker 2: you stay well as well. I'll see you tomorrow night

2482
02:03:00,587 --> 02:03:01,747
Speaker 2: on Sports Talk five for Now.

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