1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Health in z speaking of have apologized after an eleven 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: year old girl was mistakenly admitted to a mental health 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: facility in the Whitecuddo. The girl was misidentified as a 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: twenty year old woman who was subsequently handcuffed by a 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: police and reportedly injected with antipsychotic drugs. The eleven year 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: old girl is both autistic and doesn't speak. Kath Cronin 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: is the tofutto Order or Healthy en Zed Deputy Chief Executive. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: She's with me now, Hi, Kath, Oh, good afternoon, Ryan. 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: I know you want to apologize, so let's do that 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: quickly first. 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, that's really important, So thank you for giving 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: me the time to do that. So I really do 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: extend my real apology to this girl and her family. 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: This has been traumatic for them, and we're very sorry. 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: We're just going to continue to keep giving them all 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: the ongoing and care and support that they need. 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Fair enough, So police hand you a girl who's eleven 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: and you admit her as a twenty year old woman. 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: How does that work? 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: We need to really understand what's happened here, and I've 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: got to wait for the review to get down into 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: the absolute detail of what's happened. So we're going to 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: go step by step with clinical experts and our external 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: reviewers in with us to understand what did happen on 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: that over that Saturday. 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: So you haven't yet asked the y Cato Health Center 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: or the Henry Bennett Center or the ED. You haven't 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: yet asked them how they identified this individual. 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: We need to wait for the review. Look, it's really 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: important for me in my role to make sure I've 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: got facts, there's information around, but I need to give 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: the team and everyone else time to look into this 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: with the detail it deserves. 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Okay, but it's a simple question. Have you asked them 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: how they identified this person or not? 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I've asked them that and we're starting to work 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: our way through it. 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: What did they respond with. 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: They're responding with that. We're looking at our policies we've gotason, 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: we need to go through those to understand if the 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: teams follow them on the day, And that's what I've 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: commissioned this review to do. We've escalated it and usually 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: our reviews can take some time. We're going to have 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: literinary reports, you know, within the week. 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: Kath, I'm not asking what the policies and the processes 47 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: are I'm asking what was done. They've told you what 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: their response was, why won't you tell us? 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: No, they haven't got the details of that response yet, 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: So again, I'm going to wait on that review and 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: make sure when I do come and discuss with full 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: permission of the girl's family about what issues we can discuss. Well, 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: then I'll have facts to share with you. 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: Was she injected with hallo paradol, the antipsychotic. 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: Drug she look said, this is a privacy issue. The 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 2: family have asked us specifically not to share any details, 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: and so I'm going to stay with that at the moment. 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: We need to wait for the review. 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Are there any long term health consequences for her from 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: this's happening. 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: We're following up with the family and the girl regularly 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: there and then we'll wait for anything else that will 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: come from the review, from any medication or treatment that 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: was done in that period of time. 65 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: When somebody turns up at ed and you know, let's 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: say police bring them, as was the case here, generally, 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: what is the policy do you check ID do you 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: try and identify, particularly if there's a mental health and 69 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: they turn up in handcuffs or do you just take 70 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: the police's word for it. 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: Look, I think that's a fair question to ask. And 72 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, I've been talking with the acting District Commander, 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Scott Demel today. We're both both of our agencies need 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: to take carriage this of this and look into it 75 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: with some details. So that's that's what we were outsort 76 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: of at the moment. 77 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Why did it take you two weeks to tell the minister? 78 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: Look, I think you know, with the benefit of hindsight 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: that you know, someone like they often has, I think 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: we could have done things very differently. We have followed 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: some processes and we're looking at why that notification didn't 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: go to the minister until just recently. 83 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: All Right, kathiell leave it there, Thank you very much 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: for your time. That's kath Cronin, Too Fun to Order, 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Executive. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, 86 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: listen live to news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.