1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: earlier show with one roof Love where you Live News Talk, 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: sa'd be good. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: Morning, just gone six half for five. Great to have 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: your company. We will look before six o'clock the India FDA. 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: This after my interview with the Trade Minister yesterday. Some 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: clarification around the student numbers that Winston's been worried about 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: the Olympic medals apparently over in Italy a breaking. We'll 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: speak to our Corey Mike Pierce about that. Goldie is 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: hit the fog cannon on the retail crime group. Is 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: that a victim of its own success at Sunny Claims? 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: And we'll go to the US on this minerals deal, 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: talk of a mineral's deal. All ahead. 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: The agenda. 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, it is the eleventh of February, and 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: it is great to be with you this morning. Let's 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: go to the UK Starma and he's going to hold 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: on to his job. According to Starma. 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Whatever's go again. The termile of politics. There's been quite 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: a lot of that going on in the last few days. 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: I know that for you and for millions of people, 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: what matches most is the possibilyit, but I also know 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: it's the most important issue that we must spoke us 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: on because I know what I'm fighting for and who 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm fighting for. 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: That's what the poles are telling me, right, Cabinet Minister's 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: a rallying random as. 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: A collective body, the Cabinet, the Labor Party looked at 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: the alternatives of going down this road of a chaotic 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 4: leadership election trying to depose the Prime Minister, and they said, no, 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: that's not for us. 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: We expect change, and he's promised to give that change 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: now to the USD. Today's show host Evanna gathries she's 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: got a new video about pleading for information about her mum, Nancy, 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: who's still missing. We're entering the tenth day. 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: No matter where you are, even if you're far from Tucson, 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: if you see anything, hear anything, if there's anything at 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: all that strange to you that you report to law enforcement, 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: we are an hour of desperation and. 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: We need to drop this trial in La of where 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: the social media is addictive has begun. Instagram and YouTube 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: are being accused of creating addiction machines. 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: The crux of the plaintiffs allegations are that Big Tech 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 6: was aware of the harm of their products, but they 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 6: continued to pursue profit over children and they understood it 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 6: as a cost of doing business that some children would 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 6: be harmed by their products. 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: Duckerberg and other top bosses will be grilled later on 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: in the trial. 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Views and Views You Trust. To start your day, It's 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: early edition with Brian Bridge and one roof Love where 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: you Live News Talks. 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: That'd be nine after five nine two nine two is 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: the number to text the number of overseas students in 55 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: New Zealand. This is good news this morning. I'd like 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: to start with a bit of good news at the moment, 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: don't I, because I think we need it. We could 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: use it start the year off in a good way. 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: The number of overseas students here for the month of 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: January is the highest it has ever been for the 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: month of January, so basically the highest at this time 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: of year that we've ever had in our country's history. 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: So great, seventy six thousand student visas at the moment. However, 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: if you break down, because remember we were trying to 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: get the numbers back after COVID up thirteen percent on 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: last year, which again is good, but the type of 67 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: student that is here has changed. More kids going to 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: secondary school and fewer of them going to university. So 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: basically we have younger students in the country making up 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: these numbers, and the older ones are better for the 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: economy because they spend more while they're here. And also 72 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: the younger ones are obviously usually boarding at somebody's house 73 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: rather than renting a house, which might explain why even 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: though you get an increase in student numbers and you think, wow, 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: it must be great for my investment property that I 76 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: have done in Dunedin or whatever. Not necessarily it's about 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: the type of student that's here. But to be getting 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: the numbers better just in general is a good thing 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: and something that should be celebrated. Ten after five, Ryan Bridge, 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: I want to spend a bit of time with Harvey 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: k He's the US Critical Minerals Executive. He's the chairman 82 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: there looks after a Sheep Creek deposit in Montana, and 83 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: he is fighting, along with a bunch of other Americans, 84 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: are fighting for critical and rare earth mineral sovereignty. They 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: want about to look after themselves and stick it to China. 86 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: And we're going to be part of that solution for them. 87 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: We'll speak to him next. 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in depth 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: Analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Room Love 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Where You Live News Talks at. 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: Me five point thirteen. Great to have your company this morning. 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Across the Tasman, the house prices have had a fifteen 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: year high. You know when Chloe and the Greens and 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: they all say, oh, look, life is so much better 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: in Australia and everyone's moving to Australia. The economy is 96 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: doing so much better over there. Why can't we be 97 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: more like Australia? Do you really want to be more 98 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: like Australia, particularly when their house price sentiment is just 99 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: had a new low because the prices are way too high. Bridge, right, 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: everyone knows that China, well, they had America by over 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: a barrel when it comes to rear Earth's with holding 102 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: them was one of the Beijing's most effective weapons against 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: Trump's tariffs. The Americans use them in cars, healthcare, electronics, 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff the world does. New Zealand is 105 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: looking at a framework to sell some of ours to Washington. 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: Harvey k is executive chairman at US Critical Minerals, which 107 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: is a privately owned rare earth company, and he joins 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: me on the show this morning. Harvey, welcome, Thank you, Brian. 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 7: It is a pleasure to be here. And actually it's 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 7: us critical materials as opposed to minerals. Just want to 111 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 7: get that straight. So you have basically made my opening speech, 112 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 7: because the reality of it is is that the geopolitical 113 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 7: aspects of this are about fifteen years in the making. 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 7: And what that means is is that fifteen years ago, 115 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 7: basically the Chinese made the statement that the Middle East 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 7: has oil, we have rare earths, and of course we 117 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 7: didn't quite understand the implications of that many many years ago. 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 7: It has now come home to roost, and just as 119 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 7: you've said, it has now become a geopolitical weapon. It 120 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 7: has been in effect in a long term strategy for 121 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 7: a long time, particularly Africa other parts of the world 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 7: where even if they have rare earths, the weapon that 123 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 7: the Chinese use is processing, and the processing that they 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 7: have developed in which they controlled ninety eight percent of 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 7: the world's capability of processing. It is old, environmentally dangerous 126 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 7: and it just is what it is. And so about 127 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 7: three or four years ago, starting at the end of 128 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 7: the Biden administration and then accelerating with the Trump administration. Okay, 129 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 7: the United States realized, just as you have pointed out, 130 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 7: that we are in effect not only over a barrel, 131 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 7: but the Chinese have their knee on our neck, and 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 7: that is not acceptable. The reason is not acceptable is 133 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 7: because the future of innovation in every area of human development, 134 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 7: from medicine to defense to artificial intelligence, is dependent upon 135 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 7: having a ready supply of the rare earth. In particular, 136 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 7: this country has decided, with a number of executive orders 137 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 7: and a number of moves, so to speak, to accomplish 138 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 7: a couple of different things, one of which is to 139 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 7: accelerate permitting, the other of which is to supply a 140 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 7: guaranteed floor price one of the commodities that come out 141 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 7: of the ground, because many years ago, what the Chinese 142 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 7: did is they flooded the market and they killed off 143 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 7: the new companies that were trying to develop. And you know, 144 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 7: once burned, you know you've learned the lesson, and the 145 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 7: lesson is you need to support the price floors of 146 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 7: these critical minerals and rare earths. To that end, I 147 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 7: hope you don't mind me just kind. 148 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: Of going on the way into it keep going Okay, good, 149 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: thank you. 150 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 7: So to that end, what you saw in the news 151 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 7: the other day was an announcement of something called the Vault. 152 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: And what the. 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 7: Purpose of the vault is is to try to put 154 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 7: together a collaboration, a consortium if you will, of rare 155 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 7: earth deposits the guarantee floor for those minerals and an 156 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 7: understanding of process. What we have done is we've adopted 157 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 7: a little bit of a phrase at US Critical Materials, 158 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 7: and that phrase is that we have the keys through 159 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 7: the vault, which I like saying because it kind of rhymes. 160 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 7: But the reason I say that is we have the 161 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 7: richest deposit of rare earths ever found in America. As 162 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 7: you pointed out, Sheep Creek, Montana, with three hundred and 163 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 7: thirty six claims covering eleven square miles represents the richest 164 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 7: deposit of rare earths ever found in America. We average 165 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 7: nine percent total rare earth, and to give you a comparison, 166 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 7: Mountain Pants has four or five US rare earth has 167 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 7: one percent. But most importantly what we have are the 168 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 7: heavy rare earths, and we also have an extremely rich 169 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 7: deposit of gallium. Gallium is a critical mineral, and it 170 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 7: is now the number one product on the government's list 171 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 7: of must acquire, primarily because there are thirty eight hundred 172 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 7: military uses of gallium alone. 173 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: Just what is the hardest bet? Is it finding them? 174 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: Is it getting them out of the ground, or is 175 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: it processing and refining them. 176 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 7: It's processing and refining them, and it is getting the 177 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 7: permitting done. Historically, Ryan, it has taken fifteen years to 178 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 7: do an extraction permit, whether it's mining or any other 179 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 7: important material. I did an interview about six months ago 180 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 7: with Bloomberg in China, and the question that they asked 181 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 7: me was, what makes you think that the United States, 182 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 7: where the free world, if you will, is going to 183 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 7: be able to get rid of the dependence upon China 184 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 7: in any time that makes any sense, because it takes 185 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 7: fifteen years to do that. And my answer to that 186 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 7: question was the same answer to the question that it 187 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 7: was asked to be when I testified in front of 188 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 7: Congress about six months ago. What can we do to 189 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 7: help you. You can expedite permitting, and you can create 190 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 7: a floor and have an economic floor for these products 191 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 7: in the event that the Chinese, you know, try to 192 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 7: do what they did fifteen years ago. 193 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: We bet we have very quickly running out of time. 194 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: That I want to quickly ask we New Zealand fits 195 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: into this. 196 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 7: That I appreciate that question very much. What we have 197 00:11:53,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 7: developed is an ability to utilize new technology use based 198 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 7: around artificial intelligence, to be able to assess ores that 199 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 7: come from other places, be able to match that with 200 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 7: the appropriate processes we are involved with five or six 201 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 7: of them, and then to be able to help those 202 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 7: minds negotiate off take agreements one at a time, replacing 203 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 7: the trainees. 204 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Ah, Harvey, I got to Harvey. We have to leave 205 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: it there. This is Harvey k US critical materials in 206 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: the United States. As you can hear nosis stuff. Great 207 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,359 Speaker 2: to talk to him about this. We are currently negotiating 208 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: a framework with the Americans about how we might get 209 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: some of ours out of the ground, sent there and 210 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: processed there. Twenty one after five. 211 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 212 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one Root Love where you 213 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: Live News Talks. 214 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: I'd b B twenty three. We'll get to Mike Pierce 215 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: out of the UK. That's coming up a quarter to 216 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: six this morning. They reach out Crime Group. This is 217 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: the group the government set up to fight retail crime. Well, 218 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: it's been disbanded early May. It was meant to end September. 219 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: Goldsmith's'ys is because all the resignations that we've had you've 220 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: heard about those. Only two of the five members are remaining. 221 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: Carolyn Young quit. We spoke to her at the time 222 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: when she did retail and zed Carolen good morning, Hey, Jonas, 223 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: good thank you Sonnykschell's reckons they were so productive that 224 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: they could wrap early. What do you reckon? 225 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 8: Look, I think retail crime is a very complex issue 226 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 8: and you've never solved it. There's always a lot more 227 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 8: to do and a lot of different things that you 228 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 8: can look at around how you can help support retail 229 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 8: and create better environments in our community to shop. And 230 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 8: so I don't think we've solved retail crime. I think 231 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 8: there's a couple of things that might help it. 232 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: It's never solved, okay, But has the rate come down? 233 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: You know, is there any tangible evidence that anything's improved, 234 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: Because there's a bill of that's progressing through the House, 235 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: there's more changes up only coming, But is the rate 236 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: actually come down? 237 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 8: Not at the moment, No, we haven't seen those changes. 238 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: Right, So what do you make of what he's saying 239 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: then just bluster. 240 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 8: Well, it's an election year, isn't it. And he is 241 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 8: a candidate or has been a candidate for Labor and 242 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 8: has been a candidate for National. I'm sure he'll be 243 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 8: standing for a party again this year and we were 244 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 8: wanting to secure votes. So you have to really take 245 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 8: between what's the one of the headline news and what's 246 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 8: the actual news. So I think really understanding what are 247 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 8: the impacts of anything that's been put in place and 248 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 8: has it made a difference. 249 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: Which party do you reckon? 250 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 8: Carolyn, Well, you know, I'm not sure and you'd have 251 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 8: to ask Sonny. Obviously Breon would think it would be National, 252 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 8: but it could be one of the other parties as well, have. 253 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: Been in New Zealand. First, Carolyn will leave it there. 254 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: Carolyn Young Retail Ends in CEO, former member of the 255 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: Retail Crime Advisory Group, which will be over in May 256 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: twenty five. After five Newstalks, there be the early. 257 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Edition full the show podcast on Ihart Radio Tell It 258 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: By News. 259 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: Talks IV five twenty seven News Talks. Labor's getting flack, 260 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: especially in Auckland for their capital gains tax and rightly so, 261 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: but National's approach, as is usually the case with center 262 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: right parties, is user pays. It's a way to get 263 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: revenue without appearing to tax grab your poor, old starving constituents. 264 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: Yesterday it was whacking a new tax on our power 265 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: bills in order to make them cheaper, we hope. Last 266 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: week they scraped the full driver licensed test. But then 267 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: NZTA comes out and says, oh, we might need to 268 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: increase fees for the first test and for other bits 269 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: to make up costs. We all pay tolls to get 270 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: the roads that we want. We're about to get hit 271 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: with congestion charging. International tourists pay a tourist tax, of course, 272 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: Domestic tourists pay to use dock huts. More recently, car 273 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: parks at peak places Wellington, you'll probably have to pay 274 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: some kind of targeted special rate for pumping all your 275 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: number twos into the cook straight now, so long as 276 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: this stuff is ring fenced, I prefer things are charged 277 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: in this way because if you don't want to use 278 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: a toll road, use a taxed one. You know, user 279 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: pays makes more sense to me. It's fairer to those 280 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: who use it, more importantly, to those who don't use 281 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: a particular good or service, But at some point your 282 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: household budget is hit with so many fees and charges 283 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: that you have to stop and ask how long this 284 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: can continue. It's death by a thousand cuts, and then 285 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: you ask, can the government cut wasteful spending elsewhere to 286 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: cover some of this stuff or give me back some 287 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: tax please that I'm currently paying handover fist. In case 288 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: you needed examples of that this week, Shane Jones's half 289 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: billion dollar slush fund would be a good place to start, 290 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: I would have. 291 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: Thought, Brian b. 292 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: Nine minutes after five, we'll get to Mike PARC's our 293 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: UK europe correspondent. We're going to talk to him about 294 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: By the way, congratulations to Luke Harrington who's won a 295 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: bronze medal at the Winter Olympics this morning. Well, we're 296 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: also going to talk to Mike Pears because the medals 297 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: that they're getting are breaking the ribbons. Not the metal itself, 298 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: but the ribbon that it's tied to is breaking, and 299 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: then presumably the meal falls off your neck. Anyway, they've 300 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: had that, some of the athletes have had a press conference, 301 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: held them up and showed their damaged ribbons. So they're 302 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 2: promising to fix all those. We'll talk to Mike Pears 303 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: out of the UK News Talks MB. 304 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan 305 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof Love where you live. News Talks B. 306 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: He's from tax just back until Bay. 307 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: He's just stabbing railroom. 308 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: Twenty four away from Sex News Talks B. We'll get 309 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: to Mike ps Our UK you'repe correspondent in a few 310 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: minutes and before six will talk about the India FTA. 311 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: I like this text from Graham Morning Graham, Ryan, we 312 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: have five million people in New Zealand. We've just been 313 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: speaking to an American guy who runs the private minerals 314 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: company over there. We have five million people in New 315 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Zealand probably one and a half million effective tax payers. Therefore, 316 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: it seems that if we want all the good stuff 317 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: that larger countries have, we need to open the place 318 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: up and use the resources that we have, or we 319 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: will end up with a green utopia where the ocean 320 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: is our sewerage disposal and we all freeze in winter. 321 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: Good point now that I want to talk to you 322 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: about mortgages. Mortgages because and it will be no surprise 323 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: to you, but this is fixed term numbers that have 324 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: come out from the Reserve Bank for December, So how 325 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: long do we fix for? And we're back in love 326 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: with the two years. So twenty three point two percent 327 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: of borrowing, that's more than two billion dollars of borrowing. 328 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: Four mortgages have gone on the two year rate. That's 329 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: up from ten percent in November, so a lot of 330 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: switching over the one year rates twenty one percent. That's 331 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: down slightly but floating. You won't be to have. Voting 332 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: went off a cliff over this period from November to December, 333 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 2: from forty seven percent of our borrowing to just twenty 334 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: one percent of it. So we were done playing the 335 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: interest rate market game. And well for now anyway. 336 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Bread in the next few years. 337 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: Let's go to our reporters, colorm and, Toned and Cullum. 338 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: Good morning, morning, right, So what's going on with these 339 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: seal deaths on the beach? 340 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, look, the question marks are being raised by 341 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 9: the Department of Conservation the investigating the death of at 342 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 9: least one first Seal on Zanita's Allen's Beach, and sadly, 343 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 9: human involvement is not being ruled out. Photos of these 344 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 9: dead First Seals have circulated on social media, and DOC 345 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 9: says it seems like parts of the seals may have 346 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 9: been eaten by an unknown shark species. It could have 347 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 9: been a great white. They're not sure, but they say 348 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 9: one seals body may have been tampered with before or 349 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 9: after death, noting what looks like a straight cut the 350 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 9: seals had been decapitated. 351 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: It's an effect. 352 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 9: It's to kill, remove or keep any part of a 353 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 9: protected species under the Wildlife Act in New Zealand, and 354 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 9: so DOC is looking further into it. All right, how's 355 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 9: your weather clearing to find? So today in Northeasterly's nineteen today, 356 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 9: Thank you Claires. 357 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: In christ this morning, Claire, Good morning. Takah has nearly finished. 358 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, well officially, New Stalk said, being can confirm the 359 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 10: major construction part of one Enzed Stadium is now done. 360 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 10: The six hundred and eighty three million dollar project, of course, 361 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 10: will open Anzac weekend in time for Super Rugby's Super Round. 362 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 10: There are twenty five thousand permanent seats that can increase 363 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 10: to thirty thousand with some temporary seating. The project director 364 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 10: Kent Summerfield says there is still plenty of work about 365 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 10: the site, but there's now no longer the need for 366 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 10: any cranes or lifting devices. He says it's a significant 367 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 10: wind down from a constructive perspective now with just one 368 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 10: hundred workers now on site compared to four hundred at 369 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 10: the peak. He adds that operational staff will be in 370 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 10: the facility more over the next few weeks and then 371 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 10: start their stress testing of these systems ahead of kickoff. 372 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather fine? 373 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 10: Aside from some morning and evening cloud as southerlyast turning northeasterly, 374 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 10: and we should make twenty two degrees. 375 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: That's one clear. Thank you Max and Wellington Morning. Max morning, 376 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: you've got an update on the work they're doing at 377 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: More Point. 378 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, this story really is the only game in town 379 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 11: at the moment. I'm afraid. Basically we've cut down on 380 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 11: this raw sewage flowing out, but we've still got partially 381 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 11: treated wastewater pouring out in abundance around the coastline. The 382 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 11: positive is there is one is that the work to 383 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 11: clean this more Point treatment plant is about ninety percent complete, 384 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 11: and when that's done you can fully look at what 385 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 11: went wrong and start fixing it. Until then, it's too 386 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 11: hazardous to go in it. Details of this an independent 387 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 11: investigation or inquiry, I imagine will be ironed out rather 388 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 11: in days than weeks or months. The bad news is 389 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 11: that there might be able to rainfecast for the end 390 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 11: of the week weekend, which would mean raw sewage around 391 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 11: the bays again, because when it rains, you can't stop it. 392 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 11: One last thing, Willington Water says it acknowledges it's basically 393 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 11: had a flood of complaints about the smell in certain areas. 394 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 11: Can't really do anything about it. I'm afraid no. 395 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: Okay, great. How's the weather hopefully blowing in the other direction. 396 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 11: Hopefully got a different story tomorrow. Mostly fine, northerly, serning southerly, 397 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 11: mid twenties. 398 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: All right, Chess Max and neighbas here in Auckland. Morning there, 399 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: good morning. You've got an update on this military panel 400 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: into a navy officer. 401 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 12: Yes, that's right now, Look, this panel will resume deliberations today. Yes, 402 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 12: you're quite right on the fate of a senior naval 403 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 12: officer accused of misconduct. Now they've pleaded not guilty. This 404 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 12: is a court martial and devenport Naval base charge with 405 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 12: an act likely to prejudice service discipline. Now this is 406 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 12: punishable by up to two years in prison. It's alleged 407 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 12: that during a twenty twenty three overseas deployment, they encouraged 408 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 12: a junior officer under their command to kiss them on 409 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 12: the cheek. They deny it happened. The defense and prosecution 410 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 12: accounts differ, so the panel's three members they must reach 411 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 12: a unanimous verdict, so they continues. 412 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: It's interesting because you're not allowed to say who. Obviously 413 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: you can't say who it is. But I noticed in 414 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: all the reporting it's saying they rather than he or she, 415 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: you know, normally, So it's all a bit strange, isn't it? Mysterious? 416 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 8: Serious? 417 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: All right? How's are we? 418 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 7: That? 419 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: Mainly? 420 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 12: Fine? Twenty seven is a high yre at organ nice. 421 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: One need to thank you? Where to Mike psa UK 422 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: europe correspondent. Next. I've said it before, I wish I'd 423 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: known more about investing from my very first paycheck. 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Speaking publicly a short time ago, 451 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 13: he said, and this was for the first time since 452 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 13: Israel broke. He will never walk away from his mandate 453 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 13: he was given to change the country. But some of 454 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 13: his own party are still demanding he goes. His press 455 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 13: secretary and chief of staff have resigned. The leader of 456 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 13: the Labor Party in Scotland says he should stand down. 457 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 13: It was also revealed his former Deputy Prime Minister, Angela Rayner, 458 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 13: has prepared a website as part of potential leadership challenge. 459 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 13: Starmer has now won the backing though of his senior minister, 460 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 13: so I think he's safe immediately, but we'll just have 461 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 13: to wait and see public support me. While for the 462 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 13: Labour Party, he leads is just sixteen percent according to 463 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 13: a new poll, that's below all the other major parties. 464 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 13: The how, of course, is that Starmer gave Lord Manderson 465 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 13: the top job of UK ambassador in the United States. 466 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 13: That was in spite of knowing he had a relationship 467 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 13: with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, meanwhile, the King has expressed his 468 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 13: profound concern over allegations about the former Prince Andrew. Buckingham 469 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 13: Palace said the King will stand ready to support the 470 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 13: police over any claims that are made. Police are investigating 471 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 13: allegations Andrew passed on top secret government information to Epstein. 472 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 13: So this whole route continues, continues, continues. 473 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: What about the King of the North, Andy Burnham, as 474 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: he's backing Stammer, isn't he just stay in there? 475 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 13: Yeah, he's of course. You will remember he's been blocked 476 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 13: from standing in a crucial by election we have here 477 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 13: in two weeks time. I think, you know, senior leaders 478 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 13: in the party are coming to Starmer's aid for the moment, 479 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 13: but I think the real issue they face is this 480 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 13: that election is in two weeks time. All the polls 481 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 13: are saying they potentially will come last. There is very 482 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 13: little public support according to the polls for Labor at 483 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 13: the moment. And if that happens, I think that's the 484 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 13: next really danger point for Starmer. People don't vote for 485 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 13: the party. What happens then will there be a new 486 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 13: cause for him to stand down and then we could 487 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 13: perhaps see a leadership challenge. 488 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 489 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: Now? 490 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: The Meddles controversy at the Olympics that's going on. 491 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, well this is an interesting one, okay. So now 492 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 13: organizers have been forced to apologize to some athletes after 493 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 13: believe it or not, their medals broke. Issue seems to 494 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 13: be the ribven they put around their neck is coming 495 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 13: away from the actual medal. So the fixing that holds 496 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 13: it all together, it seems, well, just isn't fixing. A 497 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 13: number of willers had problems and complained. The issue came 498 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 13: to light at a press conference where abtholetes held up 499 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 13: their medals that were broken, and investigation is underway to 500 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 13: find out what's gone wrong. 501 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 14: Now. 502 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 13: Organizers say it's the last thing they want. They say 503 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 13: everything must and will be perfect in the end, So 504 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 13: an investigation there, but some very very unhappy athletes. 505 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: Sounds like it too, and rightly so too, my dad, Mike, 506 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: thank you for that. Mike pis UK europe correspondent. It 507 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: is twelve away from six. Rayenbridge Top mclays confirmed the 508 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: Free Trade Agreement with India will not allow the government 509 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: to cap the number of students coming in from India. 510 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: They can cap, however, the number of international students overall, 511 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: but the FTA would not allow this or any future 512 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: government to restrict students coming from India. This all came 513 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: from an interview on The Herald's Rhyan Bridge today yesterday. 514 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: Marcus Beveridge is Managing director of Immigration lawyer at Queen 515 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: City Law and joins me this morning. Marcus, good morning morning. 516 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 7: Right. 517 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: So was Winston Peter's right? And I mean they kind 518 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: of both right in in a technical way. 519 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a bit of a reds under your beds 520 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 14: and Asian invasions sort of stuff, and it's a lightning 521 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 14: rod for New Zealand to this issue. But an actual fact, 522 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 14: Winston did the same thing when we signed the free 523 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 14: Trade Agreement about twenty years ago. Helen Clark shut him 524 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 14: down at that time. I think Todd maclay and the 525 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 14: Prime Minister have been a bit feeble and a week 526 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 14: on this one. But so he's got a lot of 527 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 14: political mileage. We don't cap any foreign students, so the 528 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 14: whole thing is a bit of a red hearing in 529 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 14: some ways. 530 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I know, but we might want to at some point, 531 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: you know. So in that sense, does he have a point? 532 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 14: Well, he doesn't. He doesn't In the old days, like 533 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 14: with India, it's very hard to get visas anyway. They' 534 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 14: put them through all sorts of hoops because of all 535 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 14: the fraud and so on. So in the old days, 536 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 14: they just take the embassy out or take the visa 537 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 14: processing function out of that country and put it in 538 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 14: Singapore and make it really hard. But now that it's online, 539 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 14: I think typically it takes about ninety days for student 540 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 14: visa from India. If you're in the any going to 541 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 14: London or Germany, it takes about a week to get approved. 542 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 14: And you know, we're talking about jurisdiction that in twenty 543 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 14: thirty will be a third of the entire world's global workforce. 544 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 14: So you know they could pro create twenty or thirty 545 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 14: thousand foreign students and one day in India. 546 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: By the way, it sort of rolls just by on 547 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 2: a numbers game. What about the work rights of a student? 548 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: How long if you've got a student visa here, what 549 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: is it? Twenty hours a week or thirty hours a week? 550 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: You can work? Yeah, twenty hours a week. 551 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 14: And I've got mates who are sort of complaining that 552 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 14: kids can't even get part time work at the moment. 553 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 14: So you know, that's Winston. In terms of New Zealand, first, 554 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 14: it's a consideration for US, But I guess we've got 555 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 14: to weigh up, you know, all the positive things associated 556 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 14: with a free trade agreement with such a big marketplace, 557 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 14: and certainly weed out the people we don't want, including 558 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 14: some of the downtown uber drivers. 559 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: And hope that by the time the fte APTA actually 560 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: comes into force, that we are in a position where 561 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: we have enough jobs to go around. 562 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 563 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point too. 564 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 14: But look, I mean, just pivoting the Golden visas, we don't. 565 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 14: We don't. There's no age discrimination, there's no cap, there 566 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 14: is no cap on those numbers coming in. I mean 567 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 14: there's only five hundred families under that program so far 568 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 14: in one year under Indian students in his own I 569 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 14: think there's twelve thousand at the moment, and we could 570 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 14: probably handle a few more. But yeah, allowing them all 571 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 14: to work twenty hours, and whether that's within edge of 572 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 14: the wedge and they do a few more under the 573 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 14: table or whatever, I mean, it's a consideration that we 574 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 14: have to be mindful of. And the if you go 575 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 14: to Silicon Valley, I mean it's filled with Indians and 576 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 14: Chinese and they've all got PhDs and electronic engineering. So 577 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 14: we want to somehow get the ones that work well 578 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 14: for us. 579 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: Marcus, appreciate your time this morning. Marcus Beveridge, Managing Director 580 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: and Immigration Law at Queens City Law. It is eight 581 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: to six News Talk set be. 582 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 583 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Bridge and One Route Love where you Live News Talks 584 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: d B six. 585 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: To six on Newstalks. The'd be Mike's in the studio. 586 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: We were just talking about how I might need some 587 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: new shoes, Mike going to the gym getting myself injured. 588 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: The problem is where do I get shoes? If I 589 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: may be. 590 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 15: So bold, is that you're clearly at the age and 591 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 15: stage of life of just venturing into new physical activity 592 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 15: that you're clearly not equipped for. You're your classic I'm 593 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 15: here for some fundsies at the gym and you're not 594 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 15: ready for it. 595 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: Well, because you look at a wreck. I'm just sweaching. 596 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: What do you mean I look a wreck? 597 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 15: Because you were having a fit when I walked in 598 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 15: the stretching people look like stretch. You look like a 599 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 15: fit anyway, and then you got your broken bones, pain. 600 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: Broke and stuff like that. It's because I'm doing a 601 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: bit more cardio now and getting on the treadmill. 602 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 15: On a treadmill, complete waste of time. Why absolute waste 603 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 15: of time. It's false running. If you want to run, 604 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 15: run go on the earth. But on the earth on 605 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 15: the pavement. It's so bad for your joints, that is true. 606 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 15: So many people I know who are nearer to your. 607 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: Age are getting hips and these are placed and I'm like, well, well, 608 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: let's agree. 609 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 15: More like you're on to the right thing. But it 610 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 15: shouldn't run. I would say, don't run. 611 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: But it's a treadmill unless someone's chasing you. 612 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 15: Because I tell you what I did. I was in 613 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 15: Los Angeles, Beverly Hills actually back in the days when 614 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 15: I was running, and I didn't want to run because 615 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 15: it was at a period of time when there are 616 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 15: a lot of homeless people in Beverly Hills, and I thought, 617 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 15: I don't need this. So I was at the hotel. 618 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 15: I went, I got onto the treadmill at the hotel, 619 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 15: and I thought, this is fantastic because of course, on 620 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 15: the treadmill you can run at a pace that you 621 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 15: can't normally run. 622 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: And you know exactly and you know what the pace is. 623 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 15: Well, no, it's not, because that's false, because you think 624 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 15: you're fantastic, you're moving, You think this has got to 625 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 15: be good for me. Then I got back to running 626 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 15: on the road and you think, oh my god, what's 627 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 15: happened to me? What's happened to all my fitness? There's 628 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 15: no fitness on a treadmill. It's doing it for you? 629 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: Is it an illusion? It's an illusion. It's for people. 630 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 15: You know, you're having a fit in the studio with 631 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 15: a broken you look like a wreck, and you're just 632 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 15: questioning the whole thing. 633 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: It's softer, it feels softer than pa so then it's 634 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: got to be flying down on a sofa. But it 635 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: doesn't mean. It doesn't mean it's any good for you. 636 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: You gotta no pain. I'll run, I'll run, go and 637 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: go further than I would on the road, and that'll. 638 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 15: Personally I'd walk, I'd just walk at pace. 639 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: Walking is no, it does nothing for you, dud walking. 640 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 15: Oprah told me it's the best possible exercise walking. 641 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: Look, look how well exercises over the years. What are 642 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: you doing today? Oh I don't know. 643 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 15: It's like, well, I'm just getting into that. You know, 644 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 15: this India student. It's just like, I mean, were the 645 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 15: trade Min's is going to work us through that. For 646 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 15: some I think it's a non story, but I could 647 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 15: be wrong. All right, anyway, good luck, I'm running out 648 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 15: of here. 649 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen line 650 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: to news Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 651 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.