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Speaker 2: More in a caldon New Zeeland. Good morning and welcome

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Speaker 2: to Newstalk ZEDB. I'm Jack Tame with you through to midday.

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Speaker 2: I reckon. There is no song, not a single song,

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Speaker 2: that sums up the glory that was the late nineteen

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Speaker 2: nineties quite like it. It was a global smash. It

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Speaker 2: has been streamed about a gazillion times on all of

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Speaker 2: the streaming platforms, and the man who wrote it is

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Speaker 2: going to be with us after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: All I'm going to say is this Save Tonight, and

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Speaker 2: I just know that they's going to be stuck in

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Speaker 2: your head already. Fad the break I've done. Igilai Cherry

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Speaker 2: is making his way to New Zealand, and it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: He's never actually been to New Zealand before. So even

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Speaker 2: though that song Save Tonight was voted Song of the

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Speaker 2: Year in New Zealand in nineteen ninety seven, he never

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Speaker 2: made it down Under at the time. Now he is,

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Speaker 2: he is fixing that he's headed to our shores and

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Speaker 2: he's our feature interview after ten o'clock this morning. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to ask him how save tonight and fight the

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Speaker 2: break of dawn ultimately changed the course of his life.

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Speaker 2: As well as that it is asparagus season. Finally a

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Speaker 2: delicious asparagus keish recipe to share with you before ten

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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, and then after ten we're going to

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Speaker 2: tell you about the extreme new measures that the big

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Speaker 2: tech companies are bringing in in the US to try

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Speaker 2: and get on top of the AI surge. So artificial

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Speaker 2: intelligence requires ridiculous amounts of electricity. How do you provide

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Speaker 2: ridiculous amounts of electricity three mile Island? I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: about that more shortly. Right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack team.

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Speaker 2: So off the top of your head, where do you

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Speaker 2: reckon the Wallabies currently sit in the world rankings. Sure,

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Speaker 2: they're behind US, Okay, they're behind South Africa obviously, but

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Speaker 2: they are also languishing behind Scotland. They're languishing behind Italy.

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Speaker 2: Would you believe Yeah? According to World Rugby, the Wallabies

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Speaker 2: of September twenty twenty four are the ninth best national

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Speaker 2: team in men's rugby. They only just squeak in ahead

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Speaker 2: of Fiji. And it's funny because you know, when I

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Speaker 2: was a kid, the Blederslow felt like the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: in rugby outside of a World Cup. Now it probably wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It was probably me being an excitable kid and thinking,

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Speaker 2: oh New Zealand versus Australia, blah blah blah. Tests with

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Speaker 2: South Africa were at least comparable, and Lie tours had

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Speaker 2: that special prestige. But I would get so worked up

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Speaker 2: for Blederslow's because they always felt like any team could win.

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Speaker 2: I still remember epic Blederslow clashes, the John Eels era,

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Speaker 2: George Gregan and that tackle, you know, Jeff Wilson spilling

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Speaker 2: the ball as he dived for the line. The Wallaby's

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Speaker 2: just holding on for Blederslow glory. But what happened. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand rugby has had its issue, World rugby has had

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Speaker 2: its issues, but arguably no country that plays rugby has

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Speaker 2: experienced anything like the decline that Australia has experienced over

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Speaker 2: the last twenty or twenty five years. Those epic Bledislow

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Speaker 2: clashes of the past are very much of the past.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty two years since Australia last held the bleders Low.

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Speaker 2: We now have an elected member of Parliament in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand who has never seen a Wallaby's team win it.

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Speaker 2: And get this, accord Ing to the Australian Sports Commission,

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Speaker 2: rugby is now Australia's ninth most popular sport by participation.

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Speaker 2: Ossie rules has four times as many kids who play

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Speaker 2: basketball is five times as popular as rugby by participation.

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Speaker 2: But not only that, Rugby loses out to badminton in

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Speaker 2: terms of regular participation. There are lots of things that

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Speaker 2: private school rugby culture in Australia has probably isolated the

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Speaker 2: knocks will have impacted participation. The domestic rugby competition was

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Speaker 2: hollowed out and ultimately scrapped, which means that the super

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Speaker 2: rugby teams are now the only real professional options for

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Speaker 2: young rugby players. And get this. The AFL has eighteen teams,

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Speaker 2: the NRL has sixteen Australian teams plus the Warriors. They'll

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Speaker 2: Super Rugby will now have just four Australian teams, so

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe fewer teams is good, maybe it's bad.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's I think it's telling that a

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Speaker 2: many people in Melbourne didn't even know that the Melbourne

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Speaker 2: Rebels were a thing. And you've got to say that

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Speaker 2: as a TV entertainment product. Sorry, but the Brumbies versus

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Speaker 2: the Force rarely compares to the thrill of the NRL. Now,

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Speaker 2: all of this is not to diminish this evening's game.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited, of course I am, and I'm certainly not

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Speaker 2: hoping for a Wallaby's win. But ultimately it is in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand rugby needs much, much stronger competition from across

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Speaker 2: the ditch. We need the specter of potential losing the

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Speaker 2: blederslow and look, maybe I will eat my words. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I will be blushing come this time tomorrow, But as

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Speaker 2: much as I will enjoy the game this evening, right now,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like all that much of a contest.

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Speaker 2: Jack Team, let me know your thoughts ninety two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that was really dangerous. When I wrote

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Speaker 2: that this morning, I was like, nah, you know where

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Speaker 2: We're heading into this as the favorites. But now I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm really I've really teed that up for an embarrassing result.

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Speaker 2: Five point forty five to night. Of course, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have the call live for you from Sydney as the

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Speaker 2: Wallabies take on the All Backs. We'll catch up with

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Speaker 2: Next up, though, Kevin Milon will get us underway for

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Speaker 2: our Saturday morning. It's thirteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: This is news Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: No bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and beep

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your text. Jack, Money, money, money, It

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Speaker 2: all comes down to money, money. Let Rugby League also

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Speaker 2: so has head knocks, but it also has money, this

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Speaker 2: says Been. Yeah, that's true. It's interesting. I mean AFL

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Speaker 2: also has has head knocks. I do think the marketing

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Speaker 2: has kind of left Rugby in the dust over the

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Speaker 2: last few years. And honestly even the TV spectacle for

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Speaker 2: AFL seems to do pretty well. But thank you for that,

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Speaker 2: Ben Jack. I yearned for the days of David Campese

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Speaker 2: and his goose steps is Roy. Yeah, I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: I necessarily yearned to see the all Backs Ben goose step,

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Speaker 2: but you're right that was a golden era literally for

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Speaker 2: the Wallabies, Pauline Jack. It's just like the Ranfilly shield.

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Speaker 2: I suppose the Bledderslow used to be so prominent, but

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Speaker 2: Saturday just for the Rnfilly Shield. Yeah, things do change

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Speaker 2: over time. I suppose ninety two ninety two. If you

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Speaker 2: email me as well. If you've got something longer to say,

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Speaker 2: seventeen past nine, Kevin Milne is we us this morning,

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Speaker 2: Gildi Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Morning Jack. It's a very interesting the sole thing about

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Speaker 5: the rugby versus league thing. I don't know whether you

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Speaker 5: watched the Cowboys Shirts match last night, the quarterfinal.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I didn't last night. I saw the result.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned the TV spectacle of ben RL last night.

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Speaker 5: There were two penalties two in the entire game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love rugby, I really and I played

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Speaker 2: rugby until I was eighteen, you know, I was I

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Speaker 2: was a keen. I's not very talented rugby player, but

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Speaker 2: I watched rugby games and the refereel make a call

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Speaker 2: at the breakdown and I literally don't understand it. Does

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Speaker 2: something happened there like that? And so yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: that the simplicity with you know, with some of the

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Speaker 2: you know, with rugby league sometimes I think, I think

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Speaker 2: probably plays a role. But look, there are myriad factors

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Speaker 2: that I think, you know, you know, rugby in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand has had its share of challenges. But when you

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Speaker 2: think about the place that rugby held in Australia and

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Speaker 2: the strength of Australian rugby at the turn of the century,

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Speaker 2: like the year two thousand or the nineties versus today.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're just their poll polls apart. So is

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Speaker 2: something big has happened there and it's going to take

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Speaker 2: a lot to turn it around anyway, Kevin, you've been

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Speaker 2: thinking about the proposal to introduce tipping in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, tipping quite understandably the hospo industries coming up with

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Speaker 5: ideas the boost profitability the tipping ideas from a prominent

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Speaker 5: industry player restaurant to Luke Dello, his idea appears to

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Speaker 5: be a two prong attack. First, you reduce the menu

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Speaker 5: price of your food to attract more customers, and that

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Speaker 5: seems to me a risky proposition actually reducing the price

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Speaker 5: say that their prices are already as well as they

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Speaker 5: can set them. But putting that aside, yep, drop your

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Speaker 5: prices and more customers are walking. But how many more

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Speaker 5: is the issue? And that leads to the other prong,

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Speaker 5: the tricky one. Will Kiwi customers tip on a regular

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Speaker 5: the idea is if customers regularly tip your waitings, you

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Speaker 5: a poll in the Herald since the story broke yesterday

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Speaker 5: has resulted in a resounding no to tipping. I'm wondering

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Speaker 5: whereas we haven't done the bars. I mean, have we

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Speaker 5: become more sophisticated diners who want to reward great food

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Speaker 5: and excellent service. Well, yes, I think there's been some change,

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Speaker 5: so that it surprised me. Does Luke think New Zealand

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Speaker 5: diners are concerned enough about the plight of the hospital industry,

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Speaker 5: you know, the closures that the people going bankrupt the tip?

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Speaker 5: Would they tip to help bail the industry out? Again?

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Speaker 5: I think some might. Personally, I'd rather see the cost

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Speaker 5: of a meal go up to reflect a fair price

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Speaker 5: in a fair way. That seems a simpler and more

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Speaker 5: transparent solution. Same applies actually to a cup of coffee.

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Speaker 5: If the cost of a cup has to go up

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Speaker 5: to pay a decent wage to the person making it

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Speaker 5: for you, then so be it. But I'm going to

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Speaker 5: bring you in Jack, because maybe I'm just a boomer

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Speaker 5: who's never adjusted to tipping. Are you guys, Are you

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Speaker 5: young guys more likely to give dipping a crack?

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Speaker 2: I went to dinner last night, Kevin. It was the

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Speaker 2: first time I'd been to dinner in a restaurant in

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Speaker 2: probably a month. My wife has a best friend in town.

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Speaker 2: Off we went, had a very lovely dinner, and when

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Speaker 2: I paid the bill, I also tipped. Now, it's not

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Speaker 2: something that I do regularly, but I think part of

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Speaker 2: it for me last night, and I didn't feel I

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Speaker 2: didn't feel an obligation like I didn't feel the weight

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Speaker 2: of I didn't feel pressured to do it right. But

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Speaker 2: I did think last night I am so aware of

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Speaker 2: hospwa businesses going out of business at the moment, and

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Speaker 2: it feels like the real survive to twenty five thing

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Speaker 2: is so present that I just wanted to do something

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Speaker 2: a little bit extra because I thought, you know what,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, black Caps under underway with Sri Lanka and I

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Speaker 6: real well, so promising via Jack. Just back to Sydney. Look,

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Speaker 6: So the game will be hard and the track will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't wait. News Talks here, but of course

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Speaker 2: forty five. Thank you very much, sir Andrewsavlasporto live from

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Speaker 2: Sydney this morning. Thank you very much for your text.

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Speaker 2: We've had so many about tipping as well this morning.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 2: It's simple tipping. Increasing tipping in New Zealand will crash

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Speaker 2: wages and wages are important to consistency. Jack. When it

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Speaker 2: Tipping is about your service, service to the table, and

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Speaker 2: the difference between you know, like tip a server as

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Speaker 2: were jactaming this Saturday morning. There was so much new

427
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Speaker 2: music released this week. So this is snow Patrol, the

428
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Speaker 2: first music that Snow Patrol has released in six years.

429
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Speaker 2: We've got a new album called The Forest is the Path,

430
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Speaker 2: and that's the lead single from the album. But fourteen o'clock,

431
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Speaker 2: don't forget, We've got this asparagus keish recipe for you.

432
00:23:59,613 --> 00:24:01,813
Speaker 2: I think the price of sparagus is just becoming late.

433
00:24:02,493 --> 00:24:06,973
Speaker 2: It's you know, maybe maybe not yet maybe making a

434
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Speaker 2: call between going to a restaurant and tipping and buying asparagus,

435
00:24:10,253 --> 00:24:13,733
Speaker 2: but I think it's maybe getting attainable now. So yeah,

436
00:24:13,813 --> 00:24:16,733
Speaker 2: given it's delicious and kind of at its delicious best

437
00:24:17,093 --> 00:24:19,053
Speaker 2: come springtime. We're going to share that recipe with you

438
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Speaker 2: very shortly. Right now, though, it is time to get

439
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Speaker 2: your film picks for this week, and Francesca rd Can,

440
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Speaker 2: our film reviewer, is here with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Killed her. Good morning.

442
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's start off with a little bit of a

443
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Speaker 2: listen to a film showing and cinemas at the moment.

444
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Speaker 2: This is Thelma.

445
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Speaker 3: Hello, Gay, you sound so strange. I'm in jail.

446
00:24:40,293 --> 00:24:45,653
Speaker 2: Oh my god, now ten thousand dollars to this address.

447
00:24:45,973 --> 00:24:53,133
Speaker 2: Ten there's ninety three year old Thelma post tell us

448
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Speaker 2: about Thelma Francesca.

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Speaker 7: Thelma is paid by ninety four year old June Flip

450
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Speaker 7: and she is just absolutely fabulous in this film. This

451
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Speaker 7: is a very wholesome comedy that reminds us not to

452
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Speaker 7: underestimate old p And this is actually her first starring role.

453
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Speaker 7: Juane Squad will be a very familiar face to people

454
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Speaker 7: if you know, they if they saw a photo the

455
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Speaker 7: she's been in Nebraska, about Schmidt, the Human's The Age

456
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Speaker 7: of Innocence, Far from Heaven, Meet Joe Black Inside Out.

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Speaker 7: She's done a lot of things, but this is the

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Speaker 7: first time that she's had a starring role. And I

459
00:25:25,733 --> 00:25:29,333
Speaker 7: can't imagine anybody else in this role. This is a

460
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Speaker 7: pretty sweet, sentimental comedy. It's from writer Josh Marigolin and

461
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Speaker 7: he was inspired by his own grandmother. And Thelma is

462
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Speaker 7: still living alone. There's quite a conversation going on within

463
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Speaker 7: her family as to whether, you know, she should be

464
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Speaker 7: on her own and looking after her, and she is

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Speaker 7: looked after by her twenty four year old slacker grandson

466
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Speaker 7: who has some confidence issues and overbearing parents who have

467
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Speaker 7: kind of stunted his growth. Anyway, she gets scammed out

468
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Speaker 7: of ten thousand dollars and the police is sort of.

469
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Speaker 3: You know, I can't really do it.

470
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Speaker 7: I don't really do anything about it, so she decides

471
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Speaker 7: to actually do something about it. So this is an

472
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Speaker 7: action film with old people, so it just moves at

473
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Speaker 7: a slower pace, at a ninety four year old's pace,

474
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Speaker 7: and it's really clear what they've done. They're kind of

475
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Speaker 7: there's moments where she's off to try and try and

476
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Speaker 7: solve this crime. So she visits one friend to get

477
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Speaker 7: his mobility scooter. Then she visits another friend to steal

478
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Speaker 7: their gun, and there's scenes where she rolls across a

479
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Speaker 7: bed and stands up and finds the gun on top

480
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Speaker 7: of it, on top of a cupboard, and they use

481
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Speaker 7: sort of traditional sort of mission impossible action spy music

482
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Speaker 7: behind it all. So they're having a great fun just

483
00:26:32,453 --> 00:26:34,453
Speaker 7: sort of poking the mickey a little bit at the

484
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Speaker 7: genre while also just having a lot of fun imagining

485
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Speaker 7: a different kind of person in these roles. Look, it's

486
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Speaker 7: not groundbreaking, it's just a really charming, pleasant sort of

487
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Speaker 7: three out of five Sunday afternoon pleaser, but really during

488
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Speaker 7: the squib is just fabulously nice.

489
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, that sounds great. So that's Thelma that's

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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas at the moment. You've also seen Marguerite's Theorem.

491
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Speaker 3: Yes, Now.

492
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Speaker 7: I spoke about this much earlier in the year because

493
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Speaker 7: it screened at the French Film Festival and it was

494
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Speaker 7: one of my favorite films, and I got a lot

495
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Speaker 7: of feedback from people who went to the festival and

496
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Speaker 7: they agreed with me that they'd really enjoyed Marguerite as well.

497
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Speaker 7: This has just been re released, so it is now

498
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Speaker 7: in cinemas anyone, you know, you can go and see it,

499
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Speaker 7: and I do think it is worth catching. Marguerite is

500
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Speaker 7: a brilliant young mathematician. She has been her whole life

501
00:27:29,653 --> 00:27:33,253
Speaker 7: sort of studying for her thesis, and her world crumbles

502
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Speaker 7: when a new student arrives at her university and finds

503
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Speaker 7: a flaw in the thesis, and her whole world falls

504
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Speaker 7: apart because it has her whole entire world has been

505
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Speaker 7: built around mathematics. She's deemed overly emotional by her professor,

506
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Speaker 7: so she abruptly quits university. And then finds herself in

507
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Speaker 7: the real world, which she is not really equipped to

508
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Speaker 7: deal with. So she, you know, for the first time

509
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Speaker 7: in her life, she finds herself sort of at a job.

510
00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:57,653
Speaker 7: She gets a job in a shoe shop, and she

511
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Speaker 7: has no idea how to interact with humans, let alone

512
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Speaker 7: communicate with them. So it's very fun watching her kind

513
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Speaker 7: of just find her way in the world. She's just

514
00:28:05,373 --> 00:28:10,533
Speaker 7: got this really adrawab naivety and her addiction to logic

515
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Speaker 7: is really amusing. But this big, beautiful brain she has

516
00:28:13,973 --> 00:28:16,813
Speaker 7: in negative book brings her back to mathematics, but she

517
00:28:16,973 --> 00:28:19,333
Speaker 7: has sort of this whole new perspective on what it

518
00:28:19,413 --> 00:28:21,093
Speaker 7: means to be human in life. And it's just this

519
00:28:21,293 --> 00:28:25,253
Speaker 7: really gorgeous, slightly different coming of age story, and it's

520
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Speaker 7: really hard not to fall in love with Margarite as

521
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Speaker 7: a character played by Alarump, who won numerous awards for

522
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Speaker 7: this role. So that is back in cinema's well worth.

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Speaker 3: Catching very good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, thank you. So that's Marguerite's theorem. Fancaisca's first

525
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Speaker 2: film was Filma. Both of them sound like great little films,

526
00:28:42,173 --> 00:28:44,893
Speaker 2: like really enjoyable little weekend options. So we'll have all

527
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Speaker 2: of the details for those up on the news talks

528
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Speaker 2: he'd be website Jack, you seem to think that tipping

529
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Speaker 2: would be a short to medium term option just to

530
00:28:52,733 --> 00:28:56,653
Speaker 2: get restaurants through to better times. How come I think

531
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Speaker 2: that once it's in, it'll be here permanently to stay

532
00:29:00,053 --> 00:29:04,213
Speaker 2: after everything sneaks up in price, says Craig Morden and Jack.

533
00:29:04,373 --> 00:29:06,293
Speaker 2: Having returned from a trip to the US two weeks,

534
00:29:06,613 --> 00:29:08,533
Speaker 2: I can honestly say that it was a relief to

535
00:29:08,693 --> 00:29:11,853
Speaker 2: leave the tipping culture behind. Tipping has got absolutely out

536
00:29:11,893 --> 00:29:14,693
Speaker 2: of control in the States, with places such as Starbucks

537
00:29:15,173 --> 00:29:17,653
Speaker 2: fast food restaurants where you have to line up and

538
00:29:17,893 --> 00:29:20,133
Speaker 2: order expecting you to add a tip to the bill.

539
00:29:20,173 --> 00:29:21,893
Speaker 2: It was so nice coming back to New Zealand and

540
00:29:21,973 --> 00:29:23,373
Speaker 2: having the price that you see on the men. You

541
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Speaker 2: be the price that you pay with no extra expectations.

542
00:29:26,213 --> 00:29:28,973
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I mean, in the US it

543
00:29:29,093 --> 00:29:31,173
Speaker 2: is just crazy, right, And now they've got this whole thing,

544
00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:35,133
Speaker 2: like both Trump and Karmel are promising no tax on tips.

545
00:29:35,173 --> 00:29:38,173
Speaker 2: It's become a whole campaign issue. But it is crazy

546
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Speaker 2: when you go to you know, you go to Starbucks

547
00:29:40,933 --> 00:29:43,053
Speaker 2: and you just buy something from the person behind the counter,

548
00:29:43,173 --> 00:29:46,453
Speaker 2: and they're expecting you to add another fifteen twenty twenty

549
00:29:46,533 --> 00:29:50,133
Speaker 2: five percent sometimes on top of the bill. Regarding rugby, Jack,

550
00:29:50,213 --> 00:29:54,173
Speaker 2: I'm a long suffering Wallaby's tragic who is genuinely battling

551
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Speaker 2: with how I would cope with the inevitable pasting we

552
00:29:57,213 --> 00:29:59,373
Speaker 2: will get from the All Backs today, so much so

553
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Speaker 2: that I decided not to watch.

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Speaker 3: Then.

555
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Speaker 2: However, my good mate and staunch All Back supporter said

556
00:30:04,933 --> 00:30:07,133
Speaker 2: he's been kicked out of the lounge for his his sleepover.

557
00:30:07,253 --> 00:30:09,693
Speaker 2: Can he please come around and watch the game? Shoot

558
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Speaker 2: me now, says Mark. Oh, come on, Mark, you never know,

559
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:15,373
Speaker 2: you never know our sport. I reckons that things are

560
00:30:15,613 --> 00:30:19,013
Speaker 2: turning around, at least at an organizational level in Australian rugby,

561
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Speaker 2: so you know we could have a surprise result on

562
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Speaker 2: the cards when the All Blacks and the Wallabies tee

563
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Speaker 2: off at five point forty five this evening. In a

564
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Speaker 2: couple of minutes. We've got that asparagus keish recipe for

565
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Speaker 2: you right now. It is called at a tenure with

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame.

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Speaker 1: This is news Dog's EDB Saturday Mornings with Jack Day,

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Speaker 1: keeping the conversation going through the weekend with bpure dot

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Speaker 2: Cho so Eglai Cherry is going to be with us

572
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Speaker 2: after ten o'clock this morning. It save tonight probably one

573
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Speaker 2: of the all time single smashes. Although he's never been

574
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Speaker 2: to New Zealand, which is intriguing. So he's coming to

575
00:31:00,733 --> 00:31:02,133
Speaker 2: New Zealand for the first time. He's going to be

576
00:31:02,173 --> 00:31:03,813
Speaker 2: talking with us after ten. But anyway, I was looking

577
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Speaker 2: to his background and I had not appreciated a couple

578
00:31:05,853 --> 00:31:06,293
Speaker 2: of things about it.

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Speaker 3: Gli Cherry.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, Eager Eye is his real name,

581
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Speaker 2: and I thought that's an unusual name. But of course

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Speaker 2: he is of chop Tow descent. Not only that, his

583
00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:20,013
Speaker 2: family is super super interesting. So even though he was

584
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Speaker 2: born and raised in Sweden, still lives in Sweden now.

585
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Speaker 2: He is the son of American jazz musician Don Cherry

586
00:31:27,893 --> 00:31:30,813
Speaker 2: and all of his siblings basically all of his siblings

587
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Speaker 2: are incredibly talented musicians. So Nina, his half sister, is

588
00:31:37,493 --> 00:31:43,813
Speaker 2: a really successful Swedish musician, his sister Jan is a violinist.

589
00:31:44,893 --> 00:31:47,733
Speaker 2: His brother David is a jazz musician. So anyway, he

590
00:31:47,853 --> 00:31:50,973
Speaker 2: grew up in this crazy kind of jazz environment. His

591
00:31:51,093 --> 00:31:53,533
Speaker 2: dad was touring Europe. He went round and met like

592
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Speaker 2: all of the most famous jazz musicians ever. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him a little bit about how his

594
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Speaker 2: his upbringing and being surrounded by so much jazz and

595
00:32:02,093 --> 00:32:05,533
Speaker 2: so many big names and jazz came to effect his

596
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:08,693
Speaker 2: true projectory in life. When he joins us half to

597
00:32:08,773 --> 00:32:10,773
Speaker 2: ten sore really looking forward to eagle eye cherry with us.

598
00:32:11,093 --> 00:32:12,653
Speaker 2: Surely right now there was time to catch up with

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Speaker 2: our cook, Nikki Wicks for this week's delicious recipe, Kilder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah to Maria Jack Well, given it it is, basically,

601
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Speaker 2: by anyone's measure, the start of spring. You are talking

602
00:32:24,693 --> 00:32:25,853
Speaker 2: asparagus this morning.

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Speaker 8: I am, and I've been waiting and waiting and waiting

604
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Speaker 8: for asparagus to come down in price and up and flavor,

605
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Speaker 8: and those two magical things have happened just this week.

606
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Speaker 3: I feel.

607
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Speaker 8: I hope it's the same for everyone across the country.

608
00:32:41,133 --> 00:32:46,813
Speaker 8: But I love the first spears of asparagus appearing, unfortunately

609
00:32:46,893 --> 00:32:49,093
Speaker 8: not in my garden because I've never given it a crack,

610
00:32:49,173 --> 00:32:52,333
Speaker 8: but certainly on the shelves and the super Yeah, you

611
00:32:52,533 --> 00:32:55,333
Speaker 8: are asparagus fan, Are you ambivalent?

612
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Speaker 3: Do you know?

613
00:32:56,213 --> 00:32:58,653
Speaker 2: I it's funny, you know, when I think about the

614
00:32:58,773 --> 00:33:02,053
Speaker 2: food memories of my life. I never liked asparagus as

615
00:33:02,093 --> 00:33:05,573
Speaker 2: a kid until I had it fried in butter for

616
00:33:05,653 --> 00:33:08,133
Speaker 2: the first time, and I realized that, actually, no matter

617
00:33:08,213 --> 00:33:11,333
Speaker 2: what you're eating, if it's fried in butter, it is delicious.

618
00:33:11,453 --> 00:33:15,013
Speaker 2: And so as my as my palette has evolved, I've

619
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Speaker 2: become much more of an asparagus fan. And this recipe,

620
00:33:18,613 --> 00:33:20,053
Speaker 2: I certainly think, is a bit of meat.

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Speaker 8: You look asparagus keich, I mean, asparagus and eggs are

622
00:33:24,493 --> 00:33:26,733
Speaker 8: kind of great friends. And you'll often have a sort

623
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Speaker 8: of eggs beanie maybe, or a sort of softly poached

624
00:33:29,933 --> 00:33:33,373
Speaker 8: egg with some spears of asparagus that you kind of

625
00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:35,853
Speaker 8: dip into. That's not really my stick because I like

626
00:33:35,933 --> 00:33:40,293
Speaker 8: my eggs pretty well cooked. But this keish is just beautiful.

627
00:33:40,573 --> 00:33:43,053
Speaker 8: I've also thrown some smoked salmon and there you don't

628
00:33:43,173 --> 00:33:46,533
Speaker 8: need to necessarily, but here we go, and I've got

629
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Speaker 8: a couple of little tricks for those of you thinking, oh,

630
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Speaker 8: keche pastry, Here we go. It's super easy. Oven goes

631
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Speaker 8: on one hundred and ninety, and we are using a

632
00:33:56,813 --> 00:34:00,013
Speaker 8: short crust pastry, you might need one or two. Sometimes

633
00:34:00,013 --> 00:34:02,053
Speaker 8: I need just a little bit more than one sheet

634
00:34:02,093 --> 00:34:04,173
Speaker 8: of the pre rolled right jack, so you might need

635
00:34:04,213 --> 00:34:07,733
Speaker 8: a little bit of number two sheets of pastry. But anyway,

636
00:34:07,973 --> 00:34:10,453
Speaker 8: you want to roll out your pastry, but to fit

637
00:34:10,853 --> 00:34:14,173
Speaker 8: about a twenty three centimeter loose bottom tart, and that's

638
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Speaker 8: one that's sort of got some fluting around the edges.

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Speaker 8: If you don't have one of those, use something else.

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Speaker 8: It won't really matter too much. Press your pastry fairly

641
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Speaker 8: firmly into that tin and leave a bit of overhang

642
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Speaker 8: over the side that's going to fall away as it cooks.

643
00:34:26,893 --> 00:34:30,693
Speaker 8: But this little trick helps us to kind of get

644
00:34:30,733 --> 00:34:33,253
Speaker 8: around the shrinking idea of pastry where it comes away

645
00:34:33,293 --> 00:34:35,453
Speaker 8: from the edges too much. Prick it all over with

646
00:34:35,533 --> 00:34:37,973
Speaker 8: a fork, that's key, and then chill it for about

647
00:34:38,013 --> 00:34:41,013
Speaker 8: fifteen to thirty minutes. That's key as well. Again, we're

648
00:34:41,053 --> 00:34:44,133
Speaker 8: trying to stop shrinkag here without doing the boring old

649
00:34:44,133 --> 00:34:46,293
Speaker 8: blind baking. But then you want to bake it in

650
00:34:46,333 --> 00:34:48,613
Speaker 8: that preheated oven sort of towards a little you know,

651
00:34:48,733 --> 00:34:51,613
Speaker 8: not quite middle, maybe a little bit higher fifteen to

652
00:34:51,813 --> 00:34:54,973
Speaker 8: eighteen minutes until it's quite golden, and then bring it

653
00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:57,133
Speaker 8: out and you can call it. It'll cool while you

654
00:34:57,213 --> 00:35:00,013
Speaker 8: do this. Next stage in a nice big bowl, we

655
00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:02,613
Speaker 8: want to whisk some eggs. I've got five large eggs

656
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Speaker 8: in here. I've got half a cup of grated cheese.

657
00:35:06,773 --> 00:35:08,893
Speaker 8: You can either put that in with the eggs, or

658
00:35:08,933 --> 00:35:10,773
Speaker 8: you can sprinkle it over the base. I've done it

659
00:35:10,853 --> 00:35:14,293
Speaker 8: both ways either or really half a cup of cream

660
00:35:14,413 --> 00:35:17,093
Speaker 8: you could use milk, add in a good half cup

661
00:35:17,133 --> 00:35:20,333
Speaker 8: of chopped parsley, roughly chopped parsley, good half teaspoon of

662
00:35:20,373 --> 00:35:22,733
Speaker 8: sea salt, good bit of black pepper, and you just

663
00:35:22,773 --> 00:35:25,013
Speaker 8: want to whisk all of that together and then pour

664
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Speaker 8: that gently into your pastry case, sprinkle over. I've used

665
00:35:28,613 --> 00:35:32,093
Speaker 8: about five spears of asparagus here. I've cut them into

666
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:35,533
Speaker 8: four centimeter lens, but I've snapped those tough ends off

667
00:35:35,693 --> 00:35:38,293
Speaker 8: just where they want to snap, not the lovely frilly end,

668
00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:40,093
Speaker 8: but the other end. That'll just take that out of

669
00:35:40,133 --> 00:35:43,453
Speaker 8: the equation and then chop them up, throw them in.

670
00:35:43,773 --> 00:35:46,573
Speaker 8: Put in that smoked salmon if you're using it, and

671
00:35:46,733 --> 00:35:48,213
Speaker 8: then you just want to cook it. It's probably going

672
00:35:48,253 --> 00:35:51,093
Speaker 8: to take about thirty five or forty minutes, it'll probably

673
00:35:51,253 --> 00:35:54,453
Speaker 8: dome up. That's what tends to happen, right, and it'll

674
00:35:54,533 --> 00:35:57,013
Speaker 8: sink slightly as it cools. But you want to take

675
00:35:57,053 --> 00:35:58,973
Speaker 8: it out when it's just got a slight wobble in

676
00:35:59,053 --> 00:36:01,933
Speaker 8: the middle, and then it'll set as it calls. Great

677
00:36:02,053 --> 00:36:04,133
Speaker 8: to serve it not really piping hot.

678
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't go for that.

679
00:36:05,093 --> 00:36:08,253
Speaker 8: I'd go for more sort of warm or room temperature

680
00:36:08,293 --> 00:36:10,853
Speaker 8: if you like. Yeah, and it's just beautiful and the

681
00:36:10,933 --> 00:36:14,773
Speaker 8: asparagus in it, it's like it wants to be in

682
00:36:14,893 --> 00:36:20,493
Speaker 8: that little douvet of of eggs because it's softened up beautifully.

683
00:36:20,893 --> 00:36:22,213
Speaker 2: The flavor comes out.

684
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:23,173
Speaker 9: It's just perfect.

685
00:36:23,293 --> 00:36:25,653
Speaker 3: I like that great little weekend dish.

686
00:36:26,173 --> 00:36:27,893
Speaker 2: A little douve. That's it.

687
00:36:28,133 --> 00:36:32,213
Speaker 8: That's eggs, blanketed and eggs. You could use feater instead

688
00:36:32,253 --> 00:36:35,173
Speaker 8: of salmon. I've decided. Oh you could also use drained

689
00:36:35,333 --> 00:36:37,813
Speaker 8: tin salmon or tuna. I mean, you know, in this

690
00:36:37,973 --> 00:36:40,573
Speaker 8: day and age, anything goes. I'm not strict about the rules,

691
00:36:40,693 --> 00:36:43,693
Speaker 8: as you know. Yeah, yeah, little asparagus keys.

692
00:36:43,973 --> 00:36:46,693
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that sounds beautiful. This sounds so good. Okay,

693
00:36:46,693 --> 00:36:49,453
Speaker 2: we're gonna put the recipe and some photos on the

694
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Speaker 2: news Talk the website. Thank you so much, Nikki, we

695
00:36:52,173 --> 00:36:52,893
Speaker 2: will see you next week.

696
00:36:53,573 --> 00:36:54,173
Speaker 8: Sounds great.

697
00:36:54,453 --> 00:36:58,213
Speaker 2: That is Nicki Wicks our cook with her asparagus keech recipe.

698
00:36:58,293 --> 00:36:59,613
Speaker 2: This morning, it's seven to ten.

699
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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

700
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Speaker 1: us Saturday mornings with Jack dam and Bepure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot for high quality supplements US talk ZB after.

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Speaker 2: Ten o'clock we've got your screen time picks for this weekend.

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Speaker 2: If after the Bleeders Low you're looking for something good

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Speaker 2: to watch at home, you're going to crash out on

705
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Speaker 2: the couch. I'm going to tell you about the show

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Speaker 2: a very royal scandal. So this is the second drama

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Speaker 2: that has been made about that incredible interview between Emily

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Speaker 2: Mateless from the BBC and Prince Andrew. This one though,

709
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Speaker 2: was a bit different in that Emily Mateless is one

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Speaker 2: of the executive producers on the show. So I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you all about that and where you can see it

712
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Speaker 2: after ten as well as that. Of course, Egli Cherry

713
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Speaker 2: is going to be our feature it. If you thank

714
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Speaker 2: you so much for all of your messages regarding Australian

715
00:37:45,493 --> 00:37:49,173
Speaker 2: Rugby Jack the AARU have a lot to answer for

716
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Speaker 2: for the demise of rugby in Australia. They've literally dropped

717
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Speaker 2: the ball when it comes to investing in the grassroots

718
00:37:54,613 --> 00:37:57,013
Speaker 2: of the game, which should have started thirty odd years ago.

719
00:37:57,493 --> 00:38:02,733
Speaker 2: The AFL has absolutely swamped rugby with greater participation across

720
00:38:02,893 --> 00:38:06,613
Speaker 2: all age groups, much more money, much more investment cross

721
00:38:06,653 --> 00:38:09,853
Speaker 2: all states. The major clubs now have memberships upward of

722
00:38:09,853 --> 00:38:11,973
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand members. Just look at last night in Sydney,

723
00:38:12,013 --> 00:38:14,493
Speaker 2: says John, there was a sold out crowd at the

724
00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:18,253
Speaker 2: SCG AFL onwards and upwards. Do you know what I

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00:38:19,093 --> 00:38:22,733
Speaker 2: got a minute? I quite like AFL. Ah, so don't

726
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Speaker 2: we have?

727
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Speaker 3: I do.

728
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Speaker 2: I've got a bit of a soft spot for AFL.

729
00:38:25,493 --> 00:38:27,133
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, John. I'll get tomorrow your feedback

730
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Speaker 2: after ten o'clock. It is almost ten though. News is

731
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Speaker 2: next Saturday Morning of Jack Tame. This is News Talk's EDB.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be stuck in your head.

736
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Speaker 10: There's no getting around that.

737
00:39:23,653 --> 00:39:25,653
Speaker 2: Sorry, It's gonna be stuck in your head. Probably the

738
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Speaker 2: next forty eight hours or so I Reckon Yes is

739
00:39:30,173 --> 00:39:34,973
Speaker 2: the sound of jazz legend EAGLEI Cherry seemed destined for

740
00:39:35,093 --> 00:39:38,253
Speaker 2: a life in the creative arts, and this song Save

741
00:39:38,413 --> 00:39:42,933
Speaker 2: Tonight is a bona fide classic, absolutely stormed the charts

742
00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:47,253
Speaker 2: around the world upon its release. Eglie Cherry leads a

743
00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:50,133
Speaker 2: bit more of a low key life these days compared

744
00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:52,693
Speaker 2: to that of the late nineties, but he is still

745
00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:56,653
Speaker 2: writing and performing music live. He's just released his sixth

746
00:39:56,893 --> 00:39:59,693
Speaker 2: studio album, and now he's set to visit New Zealand

747
00:39:59,773 --> 00:40:03,573
Speaker 2: for the very first time alongside the legendary ub forty Eagle.

748
00:40:03,613 --> 00:40:05,693
Speaker 2: Ee Cherry is with us this morning. Held a good morning.

749
00:40:06,973 --> 00:40:10,013
Speaker 2: It is great to be speaking with you, and fantastic

750
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Speaker 2: for all your fans in New Zealand to know that

751
00:40:12,333 --> 00:40:15,133
Speaker 2: soon enough you're going to be on our shores once again.

752
00:40:15,213 --> 00:40:16,613
Speaker 2: How is it to be on the road with you,

753
00:40:16,733 --> 00:40:17,173
Speaker 2: be forty.

754
00:40:19,293 --> 00:40:22,053
Speaker 9: I haven't gotten started yet, but I'm looking very much

755
00:40:22,133 --> 00:40:25,093
Speaker 9: forward to especially coming to New Zealand, because I've never

756
00:40:25,213 --> 00:40:28,093
Speaker 9: been there and it's been on my bucket list for

757
00:40:28,253 --> 00:40:31,173
Speaker 9: my entire life, so I'm really excited to come there

758
00:40:31,293 --> 00:40:34,693
Speaker 9: and get to play for my fans and to get

759
00:40:34,773 --> 00:40:37,293
Speaker 9: to hear you be forty live, which I've never done.

760
00:40:38,173 --> 00:40:40,053
Speaker 2: You say you've never been here, and that is just

761
00:40:40,213 --> 00:40:43,053
Speaker 2: going to come as such a shock to many of

762
00:40:43,133 --> 00:40:47,693
Speaker 2: your fans because you have the distinction of having one

763
00:40:47,893 --> 00:40:49,813
Speaker 2: song of the year. In New Zealand. I'm not sure

764
00:40:49,813 --> 00:40:52,253
Speaker 2: if you're aware of this, but we have Bird of

765
00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:55,693
Speaker 2: the Year, we have Athlete of the Year, and you, sir,

766
00:40:55,773 --> 00:40:57,173
Speaker 2: are the winner of Song of the Year.

767
00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:02,213
Speaker 9: There is a lot going on back in those days.

768
00:41:02,333 --> 00:41:05,053
Speaker 9: So yes, I have a vague memory of that happening.

769
00:41:05,133 --> 00:41:08,973
Speaker 2: Actually, so there was a nine to ninety seven for

770
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:13,373
Speaker 2: Save Tonight, and yeah, I suppose it kind of it

771
00:41:13,573 --> 00:41:18,773
Speaker 2: kind of speaks to the like profound impact that that

772
00:41:19,253 --> 00:41:20,413
Speaker 2: that that song had, right.

773
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:25,293
Speaker 9: It sure did, And I'm very thankful I stayed home

774
00:41:25,373 --> 00:41:27,213
Speaker 9: that day when I wrote that song, because I was

775
00:41:27,253 --> 00:41:31,173
Speaker 9: supposed to go out and play football and the sun

776
00:41:31,333 --> 00:41:33,213
Speaker 9: was shining, and for some reason, I stayed home, and

777
00:41:33,333 --> 00:41:36,573
Speaker 9: I don't know if I think. I started playing the

778
00:41:36,613 --> 00:41:38,813
Speaker 9: guitar and I started coming up with something and I

779
00:41:38,853 --> 00:41:40,693
Speaker 9: felt like, Okay, we got something going on here, and

780
00:41:40,733 --> 00:41:42,293
Speaker 9: I just stayed and put in a few hours and

781
00:41:42,373 --> 00:41:46,533
Speaker 9: wrote the song that conquered the world life is just

782
00:41:46,693 --> 00:41:47,573
Speaker 9: so bizarre.

783
00:41:47,413 --> 00:41:49,693
Speaker 2: Like that, isn't that funny? So tell us a bit

784
00:41:49,733 --> 00:41:52,613
Speaker 2: more about that. You were planning on going out and

785
00:41:52,693 --> 00:41:55,133
Speaker 2: doing something else with your time. This wasn't a dedicated

786
00:41:55,173 --> 00:41:55,973
Speaker 2: writing session.

787
00:41:57,173 --> 00:42:00,733
Speaker 9: No, it was just I had my apartment. I was

788
00:42:00,853 --> 00:42:04,493
Speaker 9: just you know, I had my record deal and I'd

789
00:42:04,573 --> 00:42:08,813
Speaker 9: made most of the album, and I needed something that

790
00:42:08,933 --> 00:42:11,413
Speaker 9: was a little bit more uptempo. Even though Saved Tonight

791
00:42:11,493 --> 00:42:13,213
Speaker 9: isn't a very much of an up tempo song, but

792
00:42:13,253 --> 00:42:15,053
Speaker 9: it's definitely more than the rest of the album. And

793
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:17,933
Speaker 9: came up with this idea. And as soon as I

794
00:42:17,973 --> 00:42:20,973
Speaker 9: started getting when I got the line safe Tonight and

795
00:42:21,013 --> 00:42:23,213
Speaker 9: fight the Break of Dawn, I knew, I knew what

796
00:42:23,293 --> 00:42:25,533
Speaker 9: the song is about, but I had no idea I

797
00:42:25,613 --> 00:42:26,733
Speaker 9: was writing a hit.

798
00:42:27,413 --> 00:42:27,933
Speaker 3: See isn't it?

799
00:42:28,013 --> 00:42:30,653
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny? But you felt like in the process

800
00:42:30,853 --> 00:42:33,213
Speaker 2: you could you could tell when there was a bit

801
00:42:33,293 --> 00:42:34,653
Speaker 2: of a bit of magic.

802
00:42:35,653 --> 00:42:37,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, there was something there. And then when my girlfriend

803
00:42:37,933 --> 00:42:39,853
Speaker 9: came home, I said, I've written a song. It's I

804
00:42:39,933 --> 00:42:41,813
Speaker 9: think it's kind of corny, but I think it's good.

805
00:42:43,373 --> 00:42:48,733
Speaker 9: She just said, it's a good song, man, But I

806
00:42:48,933 --> 00:42:52,253
Speaker 9: u when we tracked it, and I went back to

807
00:42:52,413 --> 00:42:55,693
Speaker 9: the apartment and listened to it on my headphones. I

808
00:42:55,853 --> 00:42:58,333
Speaker 9: could close my eyes and I kind of could see

809
00:42:58,373 --> 00:43:02,733
Speaker 9: people singing along in the audience, and then I got

810
00:43:02,773 --> 00:43:04,613
Speaker 9: to experience that many times over.

811
00:43:05,613 --> 00:43:09,013
Speaker 2: Ah, that's amazing. It's almost like you you're kind of

812
00:43:09,693 --> 00:43:10,973
Speaker 2: you're foreseeing it in a way.

813
00:43:12,373 --> 00:43:14,493
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think I think, yeah, that was

814
00:43:14,613 --> 00:43:16,373
Speaker 9: kind of a moment of clarity.

815
00:43:16,853 --> 00:43:17,053
Speaker 5: Yeah.

816
00:43:17,453 --> 00:43:19,333
Speaker 9: So when it came time to pick the first single

817
00:43:19,373 --> 00:43:20,133
Speaker 9: for the album.

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00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:20,813
Speaker 3: That was a no brain.

819
00:43:21,973 --> 00:43:24,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was a good call. How I mean,

820
00:43:24,133 --> 00:43:26,693
Speaker 2: how do you like reflecting on it? How do you

821
00:43:26,773 --> 00:43:29,613
Speaker 2: think Save Tonight changed the trajectory of your.

822
00:43:29,573 --> 00:43:35,173
Speaker 9: Life in every way possible? I mean, I am I

823
00:43:35,293 --> 00:43:38,093
Speaker 9: had a different plan, and Saved Tonight ruined it because

824
00:43:38,133 --> 00:43:40,333
Speaker 9: my plan was I you know, I have a sister,

825
00:43:40,493 --> 00:43:44,333
Speaker 9: Nana Cherry. She had this massive breakthrough hit with Buffalo

826
00:43:44,493 --> 00:43:47,773
Speaker 9: Stands and her record like Sushi. So I was hanging

827
00:43:47,813 --> 00:43:50,173
Speaker 9: around a lot backstage and behind the scenes, and I

828
00:43:50,293 --> 00:43:52,693
Speaker 9: kind of saw how incredibly intense it was and being

829
00:43:52,733 --> 00:43:55,933
Speaker 9: on a major label and how out of control everything went.

830
00:43:56,013 --> 00:43:57,413
Speaker 9: So I felt like, I think I want to do

831
00:43:57,533 --> 00:44:01,173
Speaker 9: something small first ended up signing to an independent label,

832
00:44:01,893 --> 00:44:05,133
Speaker 9: moved back to Stockholm, found a small label here in Scandinavia,

833
00:44:05,173 --> 00:44:07,333
Speaker 9: and I thought I'd make any albums with Scandinavia and

834
00:44:07,373 --> 00:44:10,893
Speaker 9: then I build slowly but surely and eventually. I definitely

835
00:44:10,933 --> 00:44:13,653
Speaker 9: had dreams of getting to travel the world and play

836
00:44:13,733 --> 00:44:16,613
Speaker 9: my music, but I thought i'd build it and then

837
00:44:16,973 --> 00:44:19,173
Speaker 9: save tonight just had another plan and said no, no, no,

838
00:44:19,293 --> 00:44:21,173
Speaker 9: we're going for it now and had to just go

839
00:44:21,293 --> 00:44:25,493
Speaker 9: for the ride. So I really didn't expect it. But

840
00:44:25,773 --> 00:44:30,173
Speaker 9: once we got going, it was just an unbelievable journey

841
00:44:30,373 --> 00:44:33,853
Speaker 9: and where the way it just went off so all

842
00:44:33,973 --> 00:44:36,653
Speaker 9: over the place. But I still regret that I never

843
00:44:36,733 --> 00:44:38,453
Speaker 9: made it down to New Zealand on the first run.

844
00:44:38,693 --> 00:44:40,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was only the first run. This is

845
00:44:40,973 --> 00:44:44,533
Speaker 2: the great thing. I mean, you, you know, have written

846
00:44:44,773 --> 00:44:48,813
Speaker 2: such amazing music over the last three or four decades

847
00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:50,973
Speaker 2: now that it was only a matter of time. Even

848
00:44:50,973 --> 00:44:52,453
Speaker 2: if you didn't make it on that first run to

849
00:44:52,533 --> 00:44:54,813
Speaker 2: New Zealand, it was only a matter of time before

850
00:44:54,853 --> 00:44:57,253
Speaker 2: you did make it here. Tell us a bit more.

851
00:44:57,613 --> 00:45:00,533
Speaker 2: If you can't eaga lie about your about your family,

852
00:45:01,373 --> 00:45:03,773
Speaker 2: musical life. You mentioned your sister, But I mean it

853
00:45:03,853 --> 00:45:06,333
Speaker 2: feels like basically everyone in your family is an incredible

854
00:45:06,733 --> 00:45:07,693
Speaker 2: talented musician.

855
00:45:08,773 --> 00:45:11,973
Speaker 9: It's a pretty serious family business. We got going. I mean,

856
00:45:12,053 --> 00:45:14,973
Speaker 9: when my sister's daughter took off Maybel don't call me up,

857
00:45:15,013 --> 00:45:18,133
Speaker 9: I was like, oh, man, So there's a lot of

858
00:45:18,253 --> 00:45:21,693
Speaker 9: us making music, And I think it's all very much

859
00:45:21,773 --> 00:45:26,133
Speaker 9: from what our dad kind of planted in us and

860
00:45:27,253 --> 00:45:29,533
Speaker 9: his love of music and the way he did it.

861
00:45:29,613 --> 00:45:31,893
Speaker 9: You know, he was a jazz musician and we grew

862
00:45:32,013 --> 00:45:34,213
Speaker 9: up on the road. He toured and brought the family

863
00:45:34,293 --> 00:45:37,253
Speaker 9: with him and we'd be packing our Volkswagen bus and

864
00:45:37,373 --> 00:45:42,853
Speaker 9: driving around Europe. And for me, playing live is that's

865
00:45:42,933 --> 00:45:45,773
Speaker 9: the whole purpose of what I do. For me, like

866
00:45:45,893 --> 00:45:49,013
Speaker 9: the right, the recording, everything is about getting on stage

867
00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:53,573
Speaker 9: and making music for the people and getting that feedback

868
00:45:53,613 --> 00:45:57,093
Speaker 9: that you get when you're on stage. So all that

869
00:45:57,213 --> 00:45:59,213
Speaker 9: I think I take for my father, you know, because

870
00:45:59,293 --> 00:46:00,333
Speaker 9: that's what he was all about.

871
00:46:00,493 --> 00:46:02,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what was that like as a kid, But

872
00:46:02,333 --> 00:46:04,333
Speaker 2: being on the road and seeing the world through the

873
00:46:04,453 --> 00:46:08,773
Speaker 2: lens of a touring musician, I mean, that was.

874
00:46:08,773 --> 00:46:10,933
Speaker 9: The reality that that I knew. So it wasn't really

875
00:46:11,013 --> 00:46:13,853
Speaker 9: until leisure that I really how specially it was and

876
00:46:14,013 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 9: all the legends that I met as a kid that

877
00:46:16,893 --> 00:46:18,733
Speaker 9: would just you know, colleagues of my father, and I

878
00:46:18,893 --> 00:46:20,253
Speaker 9: just thought, you know, it's this guy.

879
00:46:20,853 --> 00:46:26,013
Speaker 11: Oh later I realized that was Miles Davis. I've met him,

880
00:46:27,013 --> 00:46:30,613
Speaker 11: but but it it was it was a special time.

881
00:46:30,693 --> 00:46:33,053
Speaker 11: And to travel and play music the way they did

882
00:46:33,133 --> 00:46:35,253
Speaker 11: in those days. You couldn't even do that today. It

883
00:46:35,373 --> 00:46:39,253
Speaker 11: was just, you know, a whole different time. And to

884
00:46:39,373 --> 00:46:41,253
Speaker 11: have been part of that. I mean when we moved

885
00:46:41,293 --> 00:46:45,013
Speaker 11: to New York and got a loft, our neighbors were

886
00:46:45,013 --> 00:46:47,173
Speaker 11: the Talking Heads, three members that are talking hands lived

887
00:46:47,173 --> 00:46:49,853
Speaker 11: and so every day I would hear them rehearsing, and

888
00:46:49,933 --> 00:46:52,893
Speaker 11: I was like a small kid going down, hanging around

889
00:46:53,333 --> 00:46:55,373
Speaker 11: listening to Psycho Killer over and over again.

890
00:46:55,453 --> 00:46:58,133
Speaker 9: You know. So so all that has obviously found its

891
00:46:58,133 --> 00:46:59,573
Speaker 9: way into into what I'm doing now.

892
00:46:59,693 --> 00:47:01,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, you basically didn't have a choice. It's like that,

893
00:47:01,773 --> 00:47:04,013
Speaker 2: you know, your your destiny was already kind of written

894
00:47:04,053 --> 00:47:04,333
Speaker 2: and star.

895
00:47:04,533 --> 00:47:04,693
Speaker 4: Yeah.

896
00:47:04,973 --> 00:47:07,973
Speaker 9: I tried. I started, you know, I went to drama

897
00:47:08,053 --> 00:47:10,653
Speaker 9: school and started working as an active First, I tried

898
00:47:10,693 --> 00:47:13,453
Speaker 9: to do something else, but yeah, I realized music is

899
00:47:13,493 --> 00:47:14,053
Speaker 9: a lot better.

900
00:47:14,253 --> 00:47:16,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you like jazz as a kid, you know,

901
00:47:16,693 --> 00:47:19,653
Speaker 2: I can imagine that. I think about my household, and

902
00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:23,053
Speaker 2: you know, obviously not not nearly as musical as yours.

903
00:47:23,133 --> 00:47:25,493
Speaker 2: But there's the classic thing where the kids scrumble at

904
00:47:25,533 --> 00:47:28,093
Speaker 2: mom and dad's music and then twenty years later they

905
00:47:28,173 --> 00:47:28,813
Speaker 2: actually love it.

906
00:47:28,893 --> 00:47:31,893
Speaker 9: You know. The first album I bought was not a

907
00:47:32,013 --> 00:47:33,813
Speaker 9: jazz album. I'll tell you that. I think the first

908
00:47:33,853 --> 00:47:38,053
Speaker 9: time I bought was the Clash London Calling Ah, and

909
00:47:38,173 --> 00:47:40,333
Speaker 9: I got into the Ramones and all that kind of stuff,

910
00:47:40,373 --> 00:47:44,213
Speaker 9: but it was yeah, I mean, it was later when

911
00:47:44,253 --> 00:47:46,933
Speaker 9: I really started playing music on my own, and you know,

912
00:47:47,093 --> 00:47:50,613
Speaker 9: you start really kind of just realizing this is what

913
00:47:50,733 --> 00:47:53,173
Speaker 9: you want to do. And I then sat down and

914
00:47:53,253 --> 00:47:55,133
Speaker 9: listened to the albums that my dad had played on,

915
00:47:55,333 --> 00:47:58,413
Speaker 9: especially the early stuff that he did with or Nette Coleman,

916
00:47:58,573 --> 00:48:01,253
Speaker 9: and and that's when I kind of realized, you know.

917
00:48:01,333 --> 00:48:03,933
Speaker 9: So I wasn't until I was maybe eighteen nineteen year

918
00:48:03,933 --> 00:48:06,693
Speaker 9: olds that I really realized what the hell he was doing,

919
00:48:07,013 --> 00:48:10,973
Speaker 9: you know, And and now I listen to quite quite

920
00:48:11,013 --> 00:48:12,373
Speaker 9: a lot of jazz actually.

921
00:48:12,173 --> 00:48:14,653
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's funny. It's funny how life goes kind

922
00:48:14,653 --> 00:48:19,533
Speaker 2: of full circle with that though, you know it you're

923
00:48:19,533 --> 00:48:22,213
Speaker 2: listening to Jack tame speaking with Iglai Cherry, who is

924
00:48:22,253 --> 00:48:24,133
Speaker 2: coming to New Zealand for the first time, which is

925
00:48:24,213 --> 00:48:27,093
Speaker 2: extremely exciting. You say that touring is the thing for you,

926
00:48:27,213 --> 00:48:30,413
Speaker 2: or at least performing live is is the thing that

927
00:48:30,573 --> 00:48:34,093
Speaker 2: gives you that real, that rush, the real sense that

928
00:48:35,173 --> 00:48:37,493
Speaker 2: you know you're getting real time feedback from an audience.

929
00:48:37,493 --> 00:48:39,173
Speaker 2: So tell us a bit more about that. Because you've

930
00:48:39,213 --> 00:48:41,733
Speaker 2: released I think like six albums studio albums over the

931
00:48:41,853 --> 00:48:45,373
Speaker 2: years now, so clearly you're still in the studio and writing.

932
00:48:45,653 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 2: What is it about live music that's still so special

933
00:48:47,973 --> 00:48:48,133
Speaker 2: for you?

934
00:48:50,133 --> 00:48:53,533
Speaker 9: I mean, it all makes sense. It's it's like for

935
00:48:53,693 --> 00:48:58,013
Speaker 9: me when I write, I'm always thinking about what it's

936
00:48:58,093 --> 00:48:59,653
Speaker 9: going to be live. You know. I have a lot

937
00:48:59,693 --> 00:49:02,213
Speaker 9: of colleagues that are really into the whole studio process

938
00:49:02,333 --> 00:49:04,493
Speaker 9: and they love sitting in the studio and they don't

939
00:49:04,493 --> 00:49:06,733
Speaker 9: want to do anything else. But for me, that's just

940
00:49:06,813 --> 00:49:09,813
Speaker 9: a step to get to where we get up on stage.

941
00:49:09,853 --> 00:49:12,653
Speaker 9: So the last few albums that I've made, I've been

942
00:49:12,853 --> 00:49:17,533
Speaker 9: very much about writing the songs that I need for

943
00:49:17,653 --> 00:49:19,973
Speaker 9: my live show. So I get back into it and

944
00:49:20,053 --> 00:49:21,613
Speaker 9: I go, oh, man, you know, i'd really like to

945
00:49:21,693 --> 00:49:23,213
Speaker 9: have a song like this on the set list and

946
00:49:23,293 --> 00:49:26,013
Speaker 9: then I write it. I have a song a couple

947
00:49:26,053 --> 00:49:28,293
Speaker 9: albums ago that's called I Like It. That's really one

948
00:49:28,333 --> 00:49:31,093
Speaker 9: of those tunes. And then it's so much fun when

949
00:49:31,173 --> 00:49:33,093
Speaker 9: you get up on stage and it works, you know,

950
00:49:33,413 --> 00:49:37,373
Speaker 9: so exactly what I wanted it to do. So yeah,

951
00:49:37,413 --> 00:49:41,013
Speaker 9: that's all my whole focus. And I think the thing

952
00:49:41,093 --> 00:49:43,693
Speaker 9: I love the most about live concerts, even as a fan,

953
00:49:43,773 --> 00:49:47,333
Speaker 9: when I go to concerts, is that that one and

954
00:49:47,373 --> 00:49:50,613
Speaker 9: a half hour or whatever the set is is a

955
00:49:50,733 --> 00:49:54,013
Speaker 9: moment where everybody's in agreement, when it's a really good

956
00:49:54,093 --> 00:49:57,093
Speaker 9: show and we're all loving, everyone's in agreement that this

957
00:49:57,253 --> 00:49:59,773
Speaker 9: is the place to be and everything else is outside

958
00:49:59,813 --> 00:50:02,573
Speaker 9: of the door. And there's not many moments in life

959
00:50:02,613 --> 00:50:04,893
Speaker 9: that you get that, you know, especially today, when the

960
00:50:04,973 --> 00:50:07,413
Speaker 9: world looks the way it does, Like how often do

961
00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:09,813
Speaker 9: people get together and everyone just kind of it's just

962
00:50:09,973 --> 00:50:10,533
Speaker 9: peace and love.

963
00:50:10,613 --> 00:50:13,253
Speaker 2: Man, You're so right, there's something primal about today, Like

964
00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:15,653
Speaker 2: it's like something primal in the shed experience.

965
00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:19,613
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, And then when you got everyone singing along together,

966
00:50:19,773 --> 00:50:20,893
Speaker 9: it's just it's amazing.

967
00:50:21,253 --> 00:50:23,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I have no doubt that's going to be

968
00:50:23,053 --> 00:50:24,613
Speaker 2: the case when you're in New Zealand and tell us

969
00:50:24,613 --> 00:50:26,853
Speaker 2: what can we expect from the tour when you hear

970
00:50:26,853 --> 00:50:28,933
Speaker 2: We're gonna have all the dates and everything on our websites,

971
00:50:28,973 --> 00:50:31,893
Speaker 2: so you did not expected to remember all of those,

972
00:50:31,973 --> 00:50:33,093
Speaker 2: But what can we expect when you.

973
00:50:33,133 --> 00:50:38,733
Speaker 9: Hear I mean, it's it's more of I'm curious to

974
00:50:39,053 --> 00:50:41,973
Speaker 9: what I should expect, you know. That's the thing about

975
00:50:42,493 --> 00:50:45,413
Speaker 9: so great about my job is you travel around the

976
00:50:45,453 --> 00:50:47,693
Speaker 9: world and you go to a place and hopefully that

977
00:50:47,933 --> 00:50:50,213
Speaker 9: spot that you're in that particular night is the best

978
00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:53,733
Speaker 9: place to be that particular night. And so often you

979
00:50:53,853 --> 00:50:55,613
Speaker 9: get there and you get the crowd and you're like,

980
00:50:55,653 --> 00:50:57,213
Speaker 9: all right, this is a good time. I need to

981
00:50:57,253 --> 00:51:00,133
Speaker 9: come back here and hang out, you know. So it's

982
00:51:00,213 --> 00:51:05,213
Speaker 9: just about getting into the groove, you know, and feel

983
00:51:05,253 --> 00:51:07,293
Speaker 9: in the room and see what we what happens, And

984
00:51:08,653 --> 00:51:10,773
Speaker 9: like I said, you know, it's really exciting as well

985
00:51:10,853 --> 00:51:12,493
Speaker 9: to kind of get to play with the band that

986
00:51:12,573 --> 00:51:15,933
Speaker 9: I've listened to since I was a kid. Yeah, and

987
00:51:17,093 --> 00:51:20,413
Speaker 9: we start the tour in New Zealand, and I think

988
00:51:20,493 --> 00:51:21,693
Speaker 9: that's a perfect place to start.

989
00:51:22,653 --> 00:51:25,053
Speaker 2: We are just so delighted that after all these years,

990
00:51:25,093 --> 00:51:27,213
Speaker 2: you're going to make it here. I hope that they're

991
00:51:27,213 --> 00:51:28,573
Speaker 2: still going to be able to roll out the red

992
00:51:28,613 --> 00:51:30,693
Speaker 2: carpet and everything when you arrive. I'm not sure what

993
00:51:30,773 --> 00:51:33,293
Speaker 2: the procedures are for the Musician of the Year or

994
00:51:33,373 --> 00:51:36,133
Speaker 2: for Song of the Year, but Eagle Ie Cherry, it's

995
00:51:36,133 --> 00:51:38,173
Speaker 2: a real pleasure to speak and have a wonderful time

996
00:51:38,213 --> 00:51:41,253
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Won't you thank you so much? That

997
00:51:41,533 --> 00:51:44,693
Speaker 2: is EAGLEI Cherry. He's coming to New Zealand alongside the

998
00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:48,173
Speaker 2: legendary UB forty. Will have all of the details for

999
00:51:48,413 --> 00:51:51,333
Speaker 2: their tour dates and tickets up and available on the

1000
00:51:51,413 --> 00:51:55,293
Speaker 2: News Talks EDB website before eleven o'clock on News Talks EDB.

1001
00:51:55,693 --> 00:51:58,333
Speaker 2: There is a big move in the US of all places,

1002
00:51:59,253 --> 00:52:03,533
Speaker 2: to introduce AM on all radio. It's very much a

1003
00:52:03,613 --> 00:52:07,053
Speaker 2: back to the future kind of situation, but basically, lots

1004
00:52:07,093 --> 00:52:09,653
Speaker 2: of modern cars, you know, the teslas of the world,

1005
00:52:10,053 --> 00:52:13,853
Speaker 2: don't have AM radio receivers. But there's a huge movement,

1006
00:52:13,933 --> 00:52:16,573
Speaker 2: including a new bill that they're looking to pass that

1007
00:52:16,613 --> 00:52:19,813
Speaker 2: would make sure every vehicle has AM radio. So I'll

1008
00:52:19,853 --> 00:52:24,533
Speaker 2: explain why very shortly. Right now, though it is twenty past.

1009
00:52:24,373 --> 00:52:30,413
Speaker 1: Ten, start your weekend off in style. Saturday mornings with

1010
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1011
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1012
00:52:36,293 --> 00:52:39,333
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes past ten, which means it's screen time

1013
00:52:39,573 --> 00:52:41,933
Speaker 2: time on News Talks. D B Tara Award is with

1014
00:52:42,093 --> 00:52:45,173
Speaker 2: us this time every week with three show recommendations to

1015
00:52:45,213 --> 00:52:48,013
Speaker 2: watch your stream at home. Hey Tara, good morning. Let's

1016
00:52:48,053 --> 00:52:51,853
Speaker 2: begin with the show streaming on Neon starring Colin Farrell.

1017
00:52:51,973 --> 00:52:53,053
Speaker 2: Tell us about the Penguin.

1018
00:52:53,813 --> 00:52:56,533
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is new HBO drama and it's the latest

1019
00:52:56,613 --> 00:52:59,173
Speaker 12: spinoff from the Batman World. And it's about the villain

1020
00:52:59,213 --> 00:53:01,933
Speaker 12: of the Batman universe, the Penguin. And yes, it stars

1021
00:53:02,053 --> 00:53:04,813
Speaker 12: Colin Farrell. He is reprising the role that he played

1022
00:53:04,853 --> 00:53:07,413
Speaker 12: in the Batman Movie in twenty twenty t too, as Oz,

1023
00:53:07,533 --> 00:53:10,893
Speaker 12: the Penguin Cob. And he's unrecognizable here. He's wearing a

1024
00:53:10,893 --> 00:53:14,453
Speaker 12: lot of prosthetics and a body suit and has transformed

1025
00:53:14,533 --> 00:53:17,853
Speaker 12: himself into this balding, overweight old man who looks nothing

1026
00:53:17,933 --> 00:53:19,973
Speaker 12: like Colin Farrell. Probably looks a lot more like Tony

1027
00:53:20,053 --> 00:53:23,413
Speaker 12: Soprano than Colin Farrell does. And this show does feel

1028
00:53:23,453 --> 00:53:25,813
Speaker 12: a lot like the sopranos in Gotham City. It's a

1029
00:53:25,893 --> 00:53:29,493
Speaker 12: mob drama, a mafia drama. It's about the Penguin's rise

1030
00:53:29,613 --> 00:53:32,053
Speaker 12: and the underwear of Gotham City, and it's taking that

1031
00:53:32,173 --> 00:53:34,973
Speaker 12: story of the villain and turning him into an anti hero,

1032
00:53:35,133 --> 00:53:37,893
Speaker 12: you know, someone you would sympathize with. So there's lots

1033
00:53:37,893 --> 00:53:41,653
Speaker 12: of shooting here, lots of organized crime, lots of conversations

1034
00:53:41,693 --> 00:53:43,853
Speaker 12: and dark corners, and so in a lot of ways

1035
00:53:43,893 --> 00:53:46,533
Speaker 12: it feels quite familiar. But you don't need to know

1036
00:53:46,693 --> 00:53:49,213
Speaker 12: the ins and outs of the DC Comics world or

1037
00:53:49,253 --> 00:53:51,573
Speaker 12: the Batman world to enjoy this. You can watch this

1038
00:53:52,013 --> 00:53:55,173
Speaker 12: very much as a standalone show. It's dark and gritty.

1039
00:53:55,773 --> 00:53:58,253
Speaker 12: You know, it's an HBO show. So the quality is good.

1040
00:53:58,413 --> 00:54:00,973
Speaker 12: It looks good, and I think as this series goes

1041
00:54:01,013 --> 00:54:04,293
Speaker 12: on it will become more of a psychological thriller rather

1042
00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:05,653
Speaker 12: than just being a mob drama.

1043
00:54:06,013 --> 00:54:08,213
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds pretty good. And yeah, it sounds like

1044
00:54:08,213 --> 00:54:09,973
Speaker 2: a bit of me. That's the Penguin. So that's on

1045
00:54:10,093 --> 00:54:13,253
Speaker 2: Neon Starr and Colin Ferrell on Prime Video A very

1046
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:14,453
Speaker 2: royal scandal.

1047
00:54:15,253 --> 00:54:17,533
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is the second show in just a few

1048
00:54:17,613 --> 00:54:21,813
Speaker 12: months to revisit the twenty nineteen BBC Newsnight interview with

1049
00:54:21,893 --> 00:54:24,933
Speaker 12: Prince Andrew, and that, of course was the incredible interview

1050
00:54:24,933 --> 00:54:28,053
Speaker 12: where Prince Andrew talked about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein

1051
00:54:28,173 --> 00:54:30,453
Speaker 12: and it was a disaster. He didn't come out of

1052
00:54:30,533 --> 00:54:33,453
Speaker 12: the interview looking good at all. In the first series,

1053
00:54:33,493 --> 00:54:36,293
Speaker 12: Scoop came out in April on Netflix and it starred

1054
00:54:36,453 --> 00:54:41,253
Speaker 12: Billy Piper and Gillian Anderson. This series, A Very Real Scandal,

1055
00:54:41,453 --> 00:54:44,293
Speaker 12: takes the same event, but takes a wider view than

1056
00:54:44,333 --> 00:54:47,133
Speaker 12: Scoop did. It focuses more on both sides, So you've

1057
00:54:47,133 --> 00:54:50,693
Speaker 12: got the BBC side through the journalist Emily Matless's eyes,

1058
00:54:50,813 --> 00:54:53,813
Speaker 12: but also the royal side, the reasons why they allowed

1059
00:54:53,853 --> 00:54:56,733
Speaker 12: the interview and the fallout after it, and so I

1060
00:54:56,773 --> 00:54:58,813
Speaker 12: think because of that, this feels a bit like an

1061
00:54:58,853 --> 00:55:02,253
Speaker 12: episode of The Crown. Michael Sheen plays Prince Andrew and

1062
00:55:02,533 --> 00:55:06,053
Speaker 12: Ruth Wilson plays Emily Maitliss, So they are both very

1063
00:55:06,093 --> 00:55:08,173
Speaker 12: good and this as you would expect. They've gone to

1064
00:55:08,253 --> 00:55:11,013
Speaker 12: a lot of effort in terms of, you know, replicating

1065
00:55:11,053 --> 00:55:14,013
Speaker 12: those mannerisms and the voices, and they very much look

1066
00:55:14,093 --> 00:55:16,973
Speaker 12: like those real people. And Emily Maitliss was an executive

1067
00:55:17,013 --> 00:55:19,413
Speaker 12: producer on this series, so I think that that gives

1068
00:55:19,453 --> 00:55:24,053
Speaker 12: the show a few more nuggets of inside knowledge that

1069
00:55:24,213 --> 00:55:24,853
Speaker 12: that Skood.

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Speaker 3: Would not have.

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Speaker 12: So if you like the Crown, I think you'll enjoy

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Speaker 12: this version. I'm not sure that we need two dramas

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Speaker 12: about this event, particularly when it's not that long ago.

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Speaker 12: But it's one of those huge stories that appeal to people,

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Speaker 12: and it's a case of two big studios rushing to

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Speaker 12: get it done and both shows coming out at the

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Speaker 12: same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, nice, Okay, one's got Emily mateless so producing,

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Speaker 2: so I think that's that's a plus. That's a very

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Speaker 2: royal scandal on Prime Video and on three now Night Sleeper.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, if you're looking for something with big energy, fast paced,

1082
00:55:56,293 --> 00:55:59,053
Speaker 12: lots of twists and turns and kind of ridiculous but

1083
00:55:59,173 --> 00:56:01,253
Speaker 12: in a good way, this is Night Sleeper and it's

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00:56:01,293 --> 00:56:04,093
Speaker 12: on three Now. It's a six part BBC drama and

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00:56:04,213 --> 00:56:06,853
Speaker 12: it takes place on a train that has been so hacked.

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00:56:07,293 --> 00:56:09,773
Speaker 12: So it's a night train traveling from Glasgow to London.

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Speaker 12: Cyber hackers have taken control of the train. The passengers

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00:56:13,613 --> 00:56:17,053
Speaker 12: are trapped on board, including a policeman named Joe, who,

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00:56:17,493 --> 00:56:21,413
Speaker 12: when he realizes the train is racing uncontrollably towards disaster,

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Speaker 12: has to find out who on board is helping the hijackers,

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Speaker 12: while also dealing with the government's cybersecurity team who are

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Speaker 12: trying to work out what's going on. This is cliched

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00:56:32,093 --> 00:56:35,053
Speaker 12: and far fetched, but so much fun. Lots of action,

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00:56:35,293 --> 00:56:38,773
Speaker 12: lots of cliffhangers and suspense. It takes place in real time,

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00:56:39,053 --> 00:56:42,453
Speaker 12: so that kind of adds to the tension. You know,

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Speaker 12: it isn't perfect. It's very unrealistic, but it's a show

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00:56:44,973 --> 00:56:47,493
Speaker 12: you can just escape into and enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: For what it is and just be entertained by it.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Okay, that sounds like a bit of fun.

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Speaker 2: That's Night Sleep where it's on three now, a very

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Speaker 2: royal scandal is on Prime Video and the Penguin is

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Speaker 2: on Neon. It's our screen Time Expert Tara Award. Thank you, Tara.

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Speaker 2: We will see you next week.

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Speaker 3: Getting your weekend started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talksbank.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is the sound of my youth,

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Speaker 2: like going to bars and nightclubs for the first time ever.

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Speaker 2: This was the soundtrack. This is Nellie Fatata of course,

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00:57:43,053 --> 00:57:46,453
Speaker 2: and Nellie is back the trail blazer of dance music.

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Speaker 2: She's been on the charts for more than two decades.

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Speaker 2: She has sold more than forty five million albums since

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Speaker 2: her debut in the year two thousand. So yeah, she

1114
00:57:55,453 --> 00:57:58,413
Speaker 2: knows a thing or two to say the least about

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00:57:58,413 --> 00:58:03,173
Speaker 2: writing and producing pop hits. Over the years, she's collaborated

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00:58:03,253 --> 00:58:07,453
Speaker 2: with all sorts of superstars and rising stuff, and her

1117
00:58:07,573 --> 00:58:12,733
Speaker 2: Portuguese influence always comes through on the music she creates. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: She's won Grammy, she's won on Latin Grammy, she's won

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Speaker 2: a brit Awards, she's broken records, and she has just

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Speaker 2: released her seventh album. It's her first and seven years

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Speaker 2: and it is called seven. It dropped yesterday. Estelle Music

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00:58:25,573 --> 00:58:26,853
Speaker 2: Review has been having a bit of a listen, so

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Speaker 2: we're going to play that to you before midday so

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Speaker 2: you can have a bit of a listen to. We'll

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Speaker 2: pick out a couple of the choice tracks. Next up,

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Speaker 2: our texpert is in for this weekend. He's going to

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Speaker 2: tell us about the big push to introduce AM receivers

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Speaker 2: on every radio in America. Why would they do that?

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Speaker 6: Do you think?

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Speaker 2: Right now it is twenty nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic Asking.

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Speaker 10: Breakfast, Where are we at with the aut racist policy

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Speaker 10: of handing out a better travel deal for employees who

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Speaker 10: happen to be Mario Pacificate Churchiary Minister Penny Simmons is

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Speaker 10: with us on this. Now they defend it, don't they?

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Speaker 13: Yes, they do, and look they have an absolute right

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Speaker 13: to defend it. And the Education and Training twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: gives them that independence to.

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Speaker 14: Make those decisions.

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Speaker 13: So I can't direct them to take notice of the

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Speaker 13: cabinet circular or the intent in it. I can only

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Speaker 13: draw it to their attention. Look like spoken with the

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Speaker 13: Vice Chance for the Damon, and I think that aut

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Speaker 13: have got some good rationale behind this decision.

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Speaker 10: Back Monday from six am, the mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 10: the Jaguar Us Talk ZB, how.

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Speaker 2: Do we power the rise of artificial intelligence? Artificial intelligence,

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00:59:37,773 --> 00:59:41,893
Speaker 2: of course, needs crazy, crazy amounts of computing power. Crazy

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Speaker 2: amounts of computing power require crazy amounts of energy, and

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Speaker 2: our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here with some fascinating new

1151
00:59:49,693 --> 00:59:53,013
Speaker 2: details on what Microsoft is planning to do to try

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Speaker 2: and power some of its AI systems. Morning A Paul,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the future is nuclear when it comes to AI.

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Speaker 15: That's at least what we're looking at at the moment

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Speaker 15: with Microsoft. Okay, so they have partnered with a show

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Speaker 15: nuclear power plant in a place in the States, in

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Speaker 15: Pennsylvania known as Three Mile Islands.

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Speaker 2: And that's a name that's gonna be very familiar to

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Speaker 2: most people listening right now.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, because that was maybe back in the late seventies

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Speaker 15: and seventy nine, that Unit two kind of melted down.

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Speaker 16: Well, there's another.

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Speaker 15: Site there that Unit two hasn't been used since that meltdown,

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Speaker 15: But there's Unit one and it's been shut down since

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Speaker 15: twenty nineteen. Okay, so that one didn't melt down, but

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Speaker 15: it's basically shut down because there was so much competition

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Speaker 15: between natural gas and solar and wind power and you know,

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Speaker 15: let's be real, twenty nineteen, you know, solar wind power

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Speaker 15: very much like the energy kind of the green energy

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Speaker 15: choices of the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they shut it down.

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Speaker 15: Well, we need a whole lot more power for AI,

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Speaker 15: and Microsoft has now partnered with them to say we

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Speaker 15: will do a deal with you for twenty years, will

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Speaker 15: buy all of the power off you for twenty years.

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Speaker 15: The owner of the plants basically said okay, so they're

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Speaker 15: going to spend one point six billion dollars to get

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Speaker 15: that plant back up and running, the hoping to do

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Speaker 15: that by twenty twenty eight as long as obviously the

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Speaker 15: regulators allowed that type of thing. And Microsoft will use

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Speaker 15: it the power the data centers of now and obviously

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Speaker 15: the data centers over the next twenty years that you

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Speaker 15: can only assume are going to be more and more

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Speaker 15: and more energy hungry as AI begins to little fingers

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Speaker 15: into everything.

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Speaker 2: And this is interesting because this is one of the challenges,

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Speaker 2: you know, facing the energy transition. Right. Obviously, the renewable

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Speaker 2: sources of electricity are becoming cheaper and cheaper, and solar

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Speaker 2: and wind stuff becoming cheaper and cheaper, but also our

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Speaker 2: energy demands, especially in big developed economies, well yeah, I

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01:01:55,613 --> 01:01:59,893
Speaker 2: mean energy demands right across different economies are massively increasing

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Speaker 2: because of this kind of technology. And I mean we

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Speaker 2: remember with bitcoin people were coming up and cryptocurrency people

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01:02:05,973 --> 01:02:08,573
Speaker 2: were coming up with creative ways to try and power

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Speaker 2: their computing. But if artificial intelligence is even you know,

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Speaker 2: reaches half of the hype, they're going to need vast

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Speaker 2: quantities of energy to try and support these systems. So

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Speaker 2: you know, nuclear could be a good option.

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Speaker 15: But this seems to be a little bit of a

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Speaker 15: turning point too, I think with nuclear because okay, it

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Speaker 15: doesn't exactly it's it's a tough decision, right, because yes,

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Speaker 15: the risk of nuclear going wrong is obviously catastrophic, but

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Speaker 15: the amount of energy you can produce for very cheap

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01:02:38,733 --> 01:02:41,013
Speaker 15: of clean energ it's pretty minimal of cleanage you have

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Speaker 15: minimal impact of the environment is rather large. It just

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Speaker 15: can go very wrong very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you look at you look at so Germany,

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Speaker 2: for example, Germany after the Fukushima disaster. We're going on

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Speaker 2: a bit of a side track here, but after after Fukushima,

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Speaker 2: Germany decided to scrap its nuclear energy basically, and that

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Speaker 2: meant that they had a spike in using fossil fuels

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Speaker 2: for energy. And as a result of that decision, in

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Speaker 2: the how as many years it is ten, twelve, thirteen

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Speaker 2: years since since Fukushima, the number of excess deaths in

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Speaker 2: Germany has increased, I think by several thousand because of

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Speaker 2: the air pollution, because they've said our nuclear is unsafe,

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Speaker 2: so we're going to have fossil fuels instead fossil fuels,

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Speaker 2: a result in higher air pollution which has actually killed

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Speaker 2: many more people than likely would have been killed by

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Speaker 2: nuclear So yeah.

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Speaker 15: It's just a And remember when the Ukraine Russia issue happens. Yea,

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Speaker 15: they also found it much more difficult to get excess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, anyway, Yeah, so that is fascinating and very

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Speaker 2: interesting that like private companies would be supporting whole nuclear

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Speaker 2: power stations like that are at three Mile Island. So

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Speaker 2: that's fascinating. Now, tell us the US government is looking

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Speaker 2: at forcing cars to have AM radio.

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Speaker 3: Why, yeah, well, you know you love radio.

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Speaker 4: I love radio.

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Speaker 9: We all love radio.

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Speaker 16: And it just has a different form with the.

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Speaker 15: Rise of Internet connected electric vehicles, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: You don't really need it over the air.

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Speaker 15: If you've got like your Tesla or your BMW or

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Speaker 15: your vaults Wagon, they are largely connected to the Internet,

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01:04:11,093 --> 01:04:13,693
Speaker 15: so you can just stream it on your Spotify's, your Pandoras,

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Speaker 15: your Ihearts.

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Speaker 9: But and there's the button.

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Speaker 15: This is what US lawmakers are focused in on. What

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Speaker 15: happens if you can't get Internet connectivity, What happens if

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Speaker 15: you're out of a coverage area, What happens if there's

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Speaker 15: an issue with those communications systems. How do you get

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01:04:29,893 --> 01:04:34,453
Speaker 15: emergent information? The AM radio is basically how it is

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Speaker 15: hardwired into all of the US emergency systems. Today, those

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Speaker 15: US lawmakers believe that it was a great solution. It

1247
01:04:42,733 --> 01:04:45,653
Speaker 15: still should be a great solution, and so they have

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Speaker 15: passed the Wait for It AM for Every Vehicle Act.

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Speaker 15: It was overwhelmingly approved by a House committee. It's now

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Speaker 15: going to go to the House floor for a vote,

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Speaker 15: and if you're successful, will actually end up on President

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01:04:57,733 --> 01:05:02,493
Speaker 15: Biden's desk to sign. Because they say, Jack that when

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01:05:02,533 --> 01:05:06,973
Speaker 15: there's a crisis, information's key and the radio can't beat it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean. I think that they're becoming sensitive a to

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Speaker 2: having big networks and systems potentially taken down in attacks. Yeah,

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01:05:16,493 --> 01:05:19,933
Speaker 2: so you know there was concern about the yeah, yeah,

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01:05:20,053 --> 01:05:24,573
Speaker 2: for the potential and for foreign actors to wipe out

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Speaker 2: part of the energy grid or something like that. So

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Speaker 2: sometimes actually having some good old school technology can be

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Speaker 2: a good thing. Hey, thank you so much, Paul, really

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01:05:32,773 --> 01:05:35,853
Speaker 2: appreciate your time. As always, that's our Textbert Paul Stenhouse.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of minutes, our master of Wine is

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Speaker 2: going to have his best buy for this week twenty

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Speaker 2: to eleven on News talks 'B A little bit of.

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Speaker 3: Way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepwart on Code dot

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Speaker 1: NZ for high quality supplements used Talks NB.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking befourteen o'clock this morning about the demise

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Speaker 2: of Australian rugby, which I know is a very very

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01:05:57,453 --> 01:06:00,693
Speaker 2: dangerous thing to do when you're only six or seven

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Speaker 2: hours from a Bleederslow kickoff. But it is now twenty

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Speaker 2: two years, twenty two years since the Wallabye last one

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Speaker 2: the Bleeder's Low Cup. It was two thousand and two

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01:06:09,413 --> 01:06:11,253
Speaker 2: when they asked one of the Letterer's Low Cup. And

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Speaker 2: you would have to say, even after a bit of

1277
01:06:14,453 --> 01:06:17,213
Speaker 2: a disappointing time in South Africa, that the All Backs

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Speaker 2: are very much the favorites for the Sydney Test this afternoon.

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01:06:21,853 --> 01:06:27,133
Speaker 2: Super intriguing then to compare the run of rugby over

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Speaker 2: the last twenty or twenty five years in Australia with

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Speaker 2: that of AFL and NRL. Steven's got some thoughts on

1282
01:06:32,253 --> 01:06:33,933
Speaker 2: Naty Sex. To me to say, Jack, when it comes

1283
01:06:33,973 --> 01:06:36,853
Speaker 2: down to it, rugby league is just an incredible spectacle.

1284
01:06:36,933 --> 01:06:38,733
Speaker 2: Do you want to have a game where the referees

1285
01:06:39,013 --> 01:06:42,493
Speaker 2: miss so many rule infractions that will ultimately that will

1286
01:06:42,573 --> 01:06:45,453
Speaker 2: ultimately affect the outcome of the game. I'd rather watch

1287
01:06:45,493 --> 01:06:47,613
Speaker 2: a game where the rules are more simple and where

1288
01:06:47,653 --> 01:06:50,573
Speaker 2: they are in forced, because why play the game if

1289
01:06:50,653 --> 01:06:53,493
Speaker 2: the rules are not in play? Thank you for that, Steven. Yeah,

1290
01:06:53,533 --> 01:06:56,853
Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly don't think I don't think that's

1291
01:06:56,893 --> 01:07:01,173
Speaker 2: helped the cause of rugby. But despite rugby's more complicated rules,

1292
01:07:01,613 --> 01:07:05,093
Speaker 2: you know, it's still going relatively strong. And other jurisdictions.

1293
01:07:05,133 --> 01:07:06,773
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the rise of I'd be in

1294
01:07:06,893 --> 01:07:09,933
Speaker 2: Europe over the last you know, over that same period,

1295
01:07:09,933 --> 01:07:12,693
Speaker 2: I would argue that while Australian rugby has seen a

1296
01:07:12,773 --> 01:07:17,573
Speaker 2: demise of sorts, in the likes of Scotland, Wales, Ireland,

1297
01:07:17,733 --> 01:07:21,373
Speaker 2: certainly we've seen a massive surge in support of rugby. Anyway,

1298
01:07:21,413 --> 01:07:23,093
Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two is our text number if you

1299
01:07:23,173 --> 01:07:25,453
Speaker 2: want to send us a message. Jacket Newsbaloks he'db dot

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Speaker 2: co dot NZ.

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Speaker 9: Hey.

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Speaker 2: After eleven o'clock this morning, I'm going to tell you

1303
01:07:29,093 --> 01:07:31,653
Speaker 2: about Graham Norton's new book. It's just amazing that Graham

1304
01:07:31,693 --> 01:07:35,133
Speaker 2: Norton still carves out time to write. He obviously doesn't

1305
01:07:35,253 --> 01:07:38,093
Speaker 2: need to. The guy doesn't need the money. He does

1306
01:07:38,173 --> 01:07:41,573
Speaker 2: it because it's his passion and from all accounts he

1307
01:07:42,413 --> 01:07:44,653
Speaker 2: is a real talent. Our book reviewer has read his

1308
01:07:44,773 --> 01:07:46,573
Speaker 2: latest work, so she's going to share that with us

1309
01:07:46,693 --> 01:07:48,853
Speaker 2: after eleven this morning. Right now that it is quarter

1310
01:07:48,933 --> 01:07:50,613
Speaker 2: to eleven, which means it's time to catch up with

1311
01:07:50,693 --> 01:07:53,333
Speaker 2: our master of wine, Bob Campbell for his best buy

1312
01:07:53,493 --> 01:07:56,653
Speaker 2: this week. Killed a Bob sure for your best buy

1313
01:07:56,773 --> 01:08:00,173
Speaker 2: this week, You've chosen a Riema petty Baron Edmund de

1314
01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:03,973
Speaker 2: Rothschild twenty twenty four, soven young blog. But of a mouthful,

1315
01:08:04,093 --> 01:08:07,573
Speaker 2: but a very pleasurable mouthful, you reckon. This is from

1316
01:08:07,653 --> 01:08:09,933
Speaker 2: Marlborough for thirty dollars. So why did you choose it?

1317
01:08:09,973 --> 01:08:10,173
Speaker 3: Bob?

1318
01:08:11,013 --> 01:08:14,893
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a mouthful to announce that. It's a mouthful

1319
01:08:14,933 --> 01:08:20,773
Speaker 17: to drink too, that's for sure. It's twenty twenty four

1320
01:08:20,933 --> 01:08:23,893
Speaker 17: is a top mintage. It's shaping up to be an

1321
01:08:23,893 --> 01:08:26,613
Speaker 17: absolute cracker, and this is one of the best. In fact,

1322
01:08:26,653 --> 01:08:31,013
Speaker 17: I'd say it's the best Marvel soloth On that I've

1323
01:08:31,093 --> 01:08:36,253
Speaker 17: tried today. Of course, they haven't all released their twenty

1324
01:08:36,293 --> 01:08:41,013
Speaker 17: twenty fours. But this is certainly a certainly a beauty.

1325
01:08:43,413 --> 01:08:47,813
Speaker 17: It's delicious now, but a most soon I think would

1326
01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:51,493
Speaker 17: be drunk within a year of release. But I don't

1327
01:08:51,533 --> 01:08:54,173
Speaker 17: think there's any rush for us whine. I think it

1328
01:08:54,253 --> 01:08:58,573
Speaker 17: will have a little reward keeping for a year or

1329
01:08:58,613 --> 01:09:02,453
Speaker 17: two at least, perhaps even more. Yeah, it's got a

1330
01:09:02,453 --> 01:09:06,813
Speaker 17: little purity and power. It's due to be release shortly,

1331
01:09:08,173 --> 01:09:11,933
Speaker 17: but and I'd say buy it while stocks last because

1332
01:09:11,973 --> 01:09:14,213
Speaker 17: it's going to be a highly demanded wine.

1333
01:09:14,453 --> 01:09:15,733
Speaker 2: So what does it taste like?

1334
01:09:16,773 --> 01:09:19,373
Speaker 17: Well, it's the same as a sort of like a

1335
01:09:19,493 --> 01:09:27,133
Speaker 17: medley of passion fruit line z guava. I even fancied

1336
01:09:27,173 --> 01:09:32,333
Speaker 17: a touch of figure there. It's it's sort of vibing

1337
01:09:32,413 --> 01:09:36,573
Speaker 17: and refreshing wine with real purity, and it's it's got

1338
01:09:37,013 --> 01:09:40,693
Speaker 17: a strong Marvel signature, but it's but I think it's

1339
01:09:40,733 --> 01:09:43,133
Speaker 17: got a subtle French accent as well, which makes it

1340
01:09:43,213 --> 01:09:44,013
Speaker 17: a bit more interesting.

1341
01:09:44,093 --> 01:09:46,693
Speaker 2: Thirty dollars a bottle, you reckon this is good value.

1342
01:09:47,613 --> 01:09:49,853
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's not the cheapest serviny on around. In fact,

1343
01:09:50,133 --> 01:09:53,093
Speaker 17: as far as servinyon goes, it's moderately expensive. But it's

1344
01:09:53,613 --> 01:09:57,533
Speaker 17: also but it's also very very good, so that in

1345
01:09:57,693 --> 01:10:00,893
Speaker 17: my book, it just equates to good value.

1346
01:10:01,053 --> 01:10:02,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, and we can you pick it up, Bob.

1347
01:10:03,693 --> 01:10:06,133
Speaker 17: It's just about to be released, so so check out

1348
01:10:06,213 --> 01:10:10,693
Speaker 17: your nearest fine wine retailer. Just past them for the

1349
01:10:10,733 --> 01:10:13,093
Speaker 17: wine by name, and that they can order it in

1350
01:10:13,213 --> 01:10:16,133
Speaker 17: if they're not going to stop it anyway. When when

1351
01:10:16,173 --> 01:10:18,653
Speaker 17: you order an advance like that, don't they get to

1352
01:10:18,813 --> 01:10:22,013
Speaker 17: inquire about a discount. Most retailers are very happy to

1353
01:10:23,013 --> 01:10:23,853
Speaker 17: give a little.

1354
01:10:26,213 --> 01:10:26,533
Speaker 9: Price.

1355
01:10:27,013 --> 01:10:30,173
Speaker 2: Yeah right, a bit of a discount for especially if

1356
01:10:30,173 --> 01:10:32,453
Speaker 2: you're ordering an advance. And what would you match the

1357
01:10:32,573 --> 01:10:33,933
Speaker 2: Rema Petia worth do you think?

1358
01:10:34,533 --> 01:10:38,573
Speaker 17: Well, the thoct that REMAPEI recommend peering it with cellards,

1359
01:10:38,933 --> 01:10:43,573
Speaker 17: quite meat or fish and sauce dishes, and I can't

1360
01:10:43,693 --> 01:10:47,413
Speaker 17: argue with that. That sounds sounds delicious, So white wine,

1361
01:10:47,493 --> 01:10:49,733
Speaker 17: sauce the well probably.

1362
01:10:49,693 --> 01:10:53,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Okay, So that's a Rema Peti Baron Edmund

1363
01:10:53,213 --> 01:10:56,733
Speaker 2: de Rothschild twenty twenty four, Sauvignon blanc Our Master of Wine,

1364
01:10:56,773 --> 01:10:59,133
Speaker 2: Bob Campbell's best buy for this week.

1365
01:11:00,213 --> 01:11:03,253
Speaker 3: With steel Sharp don't less their biggest spring sale ever.

1366
01:11:04,133 --> 01:11:07,013
Speaker 2: You've heard of? Dre of doom scolding for that's when

1367
01:11:07,053 --> 01:11:10,213
Speaker 2: you get your phone and you just keep on scrolling,

1368
01:11:10,333 --> 01:11:14,293
Speaker 2: and most of it is terrible, negative and painful and

1369
01:11:14,413 --> 01:11:19,893
Speaker 2: all of those things. Well, dream scrolling is kind of related,

1370
01:11:20,493 --> 01:11:23,293
Speaker 2: but it's maybe a little bit more optimistic. So dream

1371
01:11:23,373 --> 01:11:27,893
Speaker 2: scrolling is when you go online and you scroll through

1372
01:11:28,253 --> 01:11:32,013
Speaker 2: aspirational kind of stuff. So, for example, you might go

1373
01:11:32,133 --> 01:11:38,013
Speaker 2: online and look up property advertisements for properties that are

1374
01:11:38,093 --> 01:11:40,573
Speaker 2: wildly outside of your budget, you know, like ten million

1375
01:11:40,653 --> 01:11:42,693
Speaker 2: dollar properties. You know, sometimes I go and trade me

1376
01:11:42,773 --> 01:11:45,613
Speaker 2: and look up, you know, oh, private island for sale

1377
01:11:45,693 --> 01:11:48,813
Speaker 2: in the Houdaki Gulf, and I just, you know, suspend

1378
01:11:48,933 --> 01:11:51,173
Speaker 2: belief for a few minutes. Anyway, it turns out there

1379
01:11:51,213 --> 01:11:55,373
Speaker 2: are some actual positive upsides to dream scrolling, So after

1380
01:11:55,453 --> 01:11:57,733
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock I will explain to you a bit more

1381
01:11:57,893 --> 01:12:00,413
Speaker 2: what those actually are. Right now, it's nine minutes to

1382
01:12:00,493 --> 01:12:03,813
Speaker 2: eleven hour. Man in the garden is rude line pass GUILDA.

1383
01:12:05,533 --> 01:12:06,333
Speaker 4: Thank you're a jet?

1384
01:12:06,533 --> 01:12:07,333
Speaker 9: Are you all well?

1385
01:12:07,613 --> 01:12:09,533
Speaker 2: I'm very very well, thank you. How are you, sir?

1386
01:12:11,173 --> 01:12:14,293
Speaker 4: I'm good. I've just gone back out of the Marlborough

1387
01:12:14,373 --> 01:12:17,733
Speaker 4: Sounds where I was working on school and also stayed

1388
01:12:17,773 --> 01:12:19,693
Speaker 4: in the middle of nowhere with that Wi Fi, which

1389
01:12:19,813 --> 01:12:20,653
Speaker 4: was just wonderful.

1390
01:12:21,453 --> 01:12:21,733
Speaker 2: Nice?

1391
01:12:21,813 --> 01:12:23,853
Speaker 3: How was that excellent?

1392
01:12:24,333 --> 01:12:25,773
Speaker 9: And you know what I did with the kids?

1393
01:12:26,733 --> 01:12:28,493
Speaker 2: You went outside? This is the guests.

1394
01:12:29,253 --> 01:12:31,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one guess. And the second thing is I

1395
01:12:32,413 --> 01:12:38,213
Speaker 4: got some seeds of missiletoe. Oh okay, and I taught

1396
01:12:38,253 --> 01:12:40,253
Speaker 4: them how to put the mistletoe seeds on the trees.

1397
01:12:40,573 --> 01:12:43,213
Speaker 2: Oh very good. You think when you put the seeds

1398
01:12:43,293 --> 01:12:43,893
Speaker 2: on the trees?

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01:12:44,533 --> 01:12:46,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know mistletoe, don't you?

1400
01:12:47,013 --> 01:12:47,253
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1401
01:12:47,973 --> 01:12:50,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that is really important if you want to

1402
01:12:50,173 --> 01:12:51,173
Speaker 4: be kissed at Christmas.

1403
01:12:51,853 --> 01:12:52,093
Speaker 5: Wow.

1404
01:12:52,173 --> 01:12:52,853
Speaker 3: Do you know that too?

1405
01:12:53,053 --> 01:12:53,573
Speaker 9: Did you know it?

1406
01:12:53,693 --> 01:12:56,373
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but you need it. My parents,

1407
01:12:56,493 --> 01:12:58,613
Speaker 2: my parents have got a couple of mistletoe cuttings, and

1408
01:12:58,733 --> 01:13:01,053
Speaker 2: so they got mistletoe cuttings so they can they can

1409
01:13:01,093 --> 01:13:03,173
Speaker 2: pull them out on the twenty fifth of December every year.

1410
01:13:04,093 --> 01:13:07,573
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but they're not real missical missiletoe cuttings. They've

1411
01:13:07,573 --> 01:13:09,133
Speaker 4: probably been dead, I suppose.

1412
01:13:09,293 --> 01:13:11,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the point.

1413
01:13:11,373 --> 01:13:11,613
Speaker 3: But no.

1414
01:13:11,773 --> 01:13:12,813
Speaker 4: But the point is, well we have.

1415
01:13:13,293 --> 01:13:15,613
Speaker 2: No sorry that they've got like a pot plant of

1416
01:13:15,733 --> 01:13:18,373
Speaker 2: mistletoe that they grew from a cutting, so it's still gone.

1417
01:13:18,493 --> 01:13:19,093
Speaker 4: Did that work?

1418
01:13:19,413 --> 01:13:19,573
Speaker 3: Well?

1419
01:13:19,653 --> 01:13:22,693
Speaker 2: I don't know, nor do I because I thought they're

1420
01:13:22,733 --> 01:13:23,493
Speaker 2: not worcidic.

1421
01:13:23,893 --> 01:13:25,813
Speaker 9: No, they need to grow on other trees.

1422
01:13:27,053 --> 01:13:31,773
Speaker 2: Oh dear, maybe I've got it, I think. Okay, I'll

1423
01:13:31,813 --> 01:13:34,093
Speaker 2: kick mom. Now, find out what the dealers. I'm all

1424
01:13:34,093 --> 01:13:35,613
Speaker 2: about it? So yeah, okay.

1425
01:13:35,653 --> 01:13:37,853
Speaker 4: Anyway, last week or a week or so ago, I

1426
01:13:37,933 --> 01:13:40,293
Speaker 4: got a wonderful kid's book. I'll talk about that later

1427
01:13:40,453 --> 01:13:43,813
Speaker 4: actually in springtime from Rachel Western, which is a book

1428
01:13:43,853 --> 01:13:47,413
Speaker 4: about native bees in Altro, just the little native bees

1429
01:13:47,893 --> 01:13:51,133
Speaker 4: we you know, And I've really never really properly dealt with.

1430
01:13:51,213 --> 01:13:53,173
Speaker 9: That with you because they're so important.

1431
01:13:53,733 --> 01:13:55,053
Speaker 3: But that was not the point.

1432
01:13:55,093 --> 01:13:56,773
Speaker 2: I'll do that late anyway, but yeah, sorry.

1433
01:13:57,133 --> 01:14:02,773
Speaker 4: Of page twenty one, page twenty of the book, which

1434
01:14:02,853 --> 01:14:05,013
Speaker 4: was called Kiwi Bees have Tiny Knees.

1435
01:14:05,213 --> 01:14:05,653
Speaker 5: I like that.

1436
01:14:06,053 --> 01:14:08,453
Speaker 4: There was a base on you on there. There was

1437
01:14:08,533 --> 01:14:10,653
Speaker 4: this thing that grabbed my attention, and it was about

1438
01:14:10,853 --> 01:14:17,693
Speaker 4: basically missiletoe. How bees, those little bees pollinate mistletoe. Now

1439
01:14:17,853 --> 01:14:20,653
Speaker 4: I did not know that. I thought it was birds

1440
01:14:20,733 --> 01:14:26,253
Speaker 4: like bellbirds and Dewey who did that? So I started

1441
01:14:26,773 --> 01:14:29,493
Speaker 4: that became last week a complete missilete week for me

1442
01:14:29,573 --> 01:14:32,133
Speaker 4: because I learned everything of us to know about mistletow.

1443
01:14:32,493 --> 01:14:35,373
Speaker 4: We've got eight species. The ninth one is now extinct

1444
01:14:35,813 --> 01:14:38,373
Speaker 4: and they're not doing too well et cetera, et cetera,

1445
01:14:38,413 --> 01:14:42,213
Speaker 4: et cetera. And because they're parasitic, we need to get

1446
01:14:42,533 --> 01:14:48,133
Speaker 4: seeds onto their host plants. Now, first of all the

1447
01:14:48,213 --> 01:14:50,613
Speaker 4: plants that I've got around here, I needed to know

1448
01:14:50,733 --> 01:14:52,973
Speaker 4: what their host plants were. But here comes to the thing.

1449
01:14:53,733 --> 01:14:57,973
Speaker 4: These things. I have seeds that have got really sticky

1450
01:14:59,053 --> 01:14:59,813
Speaker 4: fruit if.

1451
01:14:59,773 --> 01:15:01,693
Speaker 9: You like, around the seed.

1452
01:15:03,053 --> 01:15:05,373
Speaker 4: And so when a bird wants to eat the seed,

1453
01:15:05,533 --> 01:15:08,733
Speaker 4: like a bell bird too wee. They eat. They try

1454
01:15:08,813 --> 01:15:11,853
Speaker 4: to get that seed out of the fruit, but because

1455
01:15:11,893 --> 01:15:14,813
Speaker 4: it's so sticky, the seed sticks to their beak. And

1456
01:15:14,893 --> 01:15:17,053
Speaker 4: what they then do is they wipe their beak on

1457
01:15:17,213 --> 01:15:21,973
Speaker 4: the on the plant. Right, some birds actually eat the

1458
01:15:22,053 --> 01:15:24,653
Speaker 4: seeds and they get a really sticky pooh and they

1459
01:15:24,693 --> 01:15:30,053
Speaker 4: have to wipe their bump with the seed. You tell

1460
01:15:30,213 --> 01:15:33,573
Speaker 4: kids there and they go like, no, yes, that's how

1461
01:15:33,693 --> 01:15:34,253
Speaker 4: it works.

1462
01:15:34,973 --> 01:15:35,613
Speaker 9: So here you go.

1463
01:15:35,733 --> 01:15:38,613
Speaker 4: So the seeds then get stuck by the bird on

1464
01:15:39,093 --> 01:15:42,693
Speaker 4: the plant, and in the next year that seed slows

1465
01:15:42,813 --> 01:15:45,973
Speaker 4: it's making little roots that go into the host plant,

1466
01:15:46,293 --> 01:15:51,973
Speaker 4: and that literally let them grow on that plant. It's

1467
01:15:52,053 --> 01:15:59,893
Speaker 4: actually parasitic without really damaging the plants. Now, possums love mistletoes.

1468
01:16:00,173 --> 01:16:04,373
Speaker 4: Mistletoes seriously in trouble. Some species are not very common

1469
01:16:04,453 --> 01:16:07,933
Speaker 4: at all, So it would be really nice to actually

1470
01:16:08,093 --> 01:16:11,373
Speaker 4: get this missiletoe back in our various habitats in New Zealand,

1471
01:16:11,733 --> 01:16:14,533
Speaker 4: of course, which is I took school, and that was

1472
01:16:14,733 --> 01:16:18,653
Speaker 4: exactly what the whole thing was about. These kids learned

1473
01:16:18,693 --> 01:16:22,253
Speaker 4: to use the very slippery, that's very sticky sort of stuff.

1474
01:16:22,933 --> 01:16:26,013
Speaker 4: They learned where to put it on the tree in

1475
01:16:26,133 --> 01:16:30,333
Speaker 4: the little nooks where the branches come off the main trunk,

1476
01:16:31,053 --> 01:16:34,333
Speaker 4: and then make sure that it's all stuck there, and

1477
01:16:34,453 --> 01:16:37,173
Speaker 4: then a little tie around it with a little piece

1478
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:40,653
Speaker 4: of wool so that they can always find which brands

1479
01:16:40,733 --> 01:16:45,413
Speaker 4: that they put the missilete on. Yeah, years later, when

1480
01:16:45,453 --> 01:16:49,693
Speaker 4: they're still at school, they have their own missile toes

1481
01:16:49,893 --> 01:16:53,293
Speaker 4: in their own trees, and I think that it's such.

1482
01:16:53,133 --> 01:16:54,253
Speaker 9: A cool thing to do with it.

1483
01:16:54,293 --> 01:16:58,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing, It really is. Yeah, it's incredible. Okay, well,

1484
01:16:58,693 --> 01:17:00,453
Speaker 2: look I'm going to tax mum. I'm going to tex

1485
01:17:00,533 --> 01:17:02,973
Speaker 2: mom and say just see over your missilete so I

1486
01:17:03,013 --> 01:17:05,133
Speaker 2: can see what it's living off. At the moment. I

1487
01:17:05,653 --> 01:17:08,133
Speaker 2: hadn't realized you go, you learn something every Saturday morning

1488
01:17:08,173 --> 01:17:10,413
Speaker 2: on the show. Have not realized that it's so thank

1489
01:17:10,413 --> 01:17:13,133
Speaker 2: you very much, rue Hey. Think of your feedback as well.

1490
01:17:13,653 --> 01:17:15,973
Speaker 2: Old mate. James Carter has sent me a text. He's

1491
01:17:16,013 --> 01:17:19,933
Speaker 2: compiled a list of things since the Wallabies last won

1492
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Speaker 2: the Bledderslow Cup. So get this back. On the third

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Speaker 2: of August in two thousand and two when they last one,

1494
01:17:25,253 --> 01:17:28,293
Speaker 2: Elvis was number one on the New Zealand charts. Nine

1495
01:17:28,333 --> 01:17:30,413
Speaker 2: to eleven was still fresh in our minds. We hadn't

1496
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Speaker 2: even had the first anniversary. The world was still mourning

1497
01:17:33,733 --> 01:17:37,893
Speaker 2: the Queen Mum who died in April. There was no iPhone.

1498
01:17:38,013 --> 01:17:40,333
Speaker 2: In fact, the iPod was still less than a year old.

1499
01:17:41,173 --> 01:17:44,533
Speaker 2: No one has ever to this day accurately written on

1500
01:17:44,613 --> 01:17:47,893
Speaker 2: social media that the Wallabies have won the Bledderslow Cup.

1501
01:17:47,973 --> 01:17:51,573
Speaker 2: As Facebook, Twitter, Bebo and MySpace was still ideas, the

1502
01:17:51,693 --> 01:17:54,533
Speaker 2: concord was still flying, the Space Shuttle Columbia hadn't had

1503
01:17:54,573 --> 01:17:57,813
Speaker 2: its disaster. Richard Long and Judy Bailey were still reading

1504
01:17:57,853 --> 01:18:00,173
Speaker 2: the news on TV one. How about that news is.

1505
01:18:00,213 --> 01:18:04,813
Speaker 1: Next Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping a conversation going

1506
01:18:04,933 --> 01:18:08,053
Speaker 1: through the weekend with the pure dot cot In for

1507
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Speaker 1: high quality supplements used Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: More Anna, if you're just turning on the radio, hocky Am,

1509
01:18:36,773 --> 01:18:39,453
Speaker 2: I welcome Jack taying with you on news Talks EDB

1510
01:18:39,653 --> 01:18:42,373
Speaker 2: through to midday. So before twelve o'clock, we're going to

1511
01:18:42,413 --> 01:18:45,013
Speaker 2: play you some of Nellie Fittado's new album. It's her

1512
01:18:45,093 --> 01:18:48,093
Speaker 2: seventh album, her first album and seven years creatively. She

1513
01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:51,173
Speaker 2: has called it seven, so we'll see if it's quite

1514
01:18:51,173 --> 01:18:54,533
Speaker 2: as dancy, quite as poppy as some of her previous

1515
01:18:54,613 --> 01:18:57,733
Speaker 2: albums proved to be mega hits. I can't believe it.

1516
01:18:57,773 --> 01:19:02,173
Speaker 2: Actually she sold forty five million albums worldwide. That's crazy anyway,

1517
01:19:02,213 --> 01:19:03,613
Speaker 2: looking forward to having to listen to that as well

1518
01:19:03,653 --> 01:19:05,853
Speaker 2: as that. Graham Norton new book is out now. Book

1519
01:19:05,893 --> 01:19:07,653
Speaker 2: reviewer has just read it, so she's going to give

1520
01:19:07,733 --> 01:19:10,293
Speaker 2: us not too many details, but give us her verdict

1521
01:19:10,373 --> 01:19:12,533
Speaker 2: on it at the very least right now, though it

1522
01:19:12,693 --> 01:19:16,773
Speaker 2: is eight minutes past eleven. Team, you've heard of doom scowling,

1523
01:19:16,853 --> 01:19:19,893
Speaker 2: but have you heard of dream scrolling. It's a new

1524
01:19:19,973 --> 01:19:22,653
Speaker 2: phenomenon and apparently lots of us are doing it, even

1525
01:19:22,693 --> 01:19:25,493
Speaker 2: if we don't know about dream scolding or haven't heard

1526
01:19:25,533 --> 01:19:29,133
Speaker 2: that term before? Google Subtherland is a clinical psychologist with

1527
01:19:29,253 --> 01:19:31,533
Speaker 2: Umbrella Well Being and as with us now Kilder.

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Speaker 14: Google sua Jack.

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01:19:33,373 --> 01:19:36,253
Speaker 18: Yes, I've been dreams scrolling away this week without even

1530
01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:37,533
Speaker 18: realizing I've been doing it.

1531
01:19:37,613 --> 01:19:39,773
Speaker 2: I'm a dream scholar. I'm a dream scholar. I had

1532
01:19:39,853 --> 01:19:42,293
Speaker 2: never heard of this term until you drew my attention

1533
01:19:42,373 --> 01:19:43,973
Speaker 2: to it. But I'm a dream scholler. So why don't

1534
01:19:44,013 --> 01:19:44,733
Speaker 2: you tell us what it is?

1535
01:19:45,413 --> 01:19:45,533
Speaker 17: Oh?

1536
01:19:45,773 --> 01:19:48,693
Speaker 18: I know, I hadn't either, But I picked up this

1537
01:19:48,773 --> 01:19:52,093
Speaker 18: piece of research from trade me and they were talking

1538
01:19:52,133 --> 01:19:55,373
Speaker 18: about it about and it's that phenomenon of where you

1539
01:19:55,613 --> 01:19:58,613
Speaker 18: scroll through and particularly they were talking about it in

1540
01:19:58,733 --> 01:20:01,133
Speaker 18: terms of looking at houses that are way out of

1541
01:20:01,253 --> 01:20:05,773
Speaker 18: your budget, like the multi billion dollar houses in Queenstown

1542
01:20:05,893 --> 01:20:06,573
Speaker 18: or somewhere.

1543
01:20:06,533 --> 01:20:09,813
Speaker 9: Like that, and that you know, and and it's like, oh, yeah,

1544
01:20:09,893 --> 01:20:10,333
Speaker 9: I do that.

1545
01:20:10,573 --> 01:20:11,253
Speaker 5: I do that too.

1546
01:20:11,373 --> 01:20:14,373
Speaker 18: And it's really fascinating about some of the stats they

1547
01:20:14,413 --> 01:20:16,813
Speaker 18: pulled out of it. But yeah, it's that looking at

1548
01:20:16,933 --> 01:20:20,213
Speaker 18: things that we dream of buying, I guess, and scrolling

1549
01:20:20,453 --> 01:20:23,533
Speaker 18: through that particularly around but not limited to property.

1550
01:20:23,733 --> 01:20:25,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not even a social media thing when

1551
01:20:25,653 --> 01:20:27,933
Speaker 2: you think about it. Right, So like property, think about

1552
01:20:28,453 --> 01:20:30,653
Speaker 2: you know, we've just had New Zealand's best homes with

1553
01:20:30,773 --> 01:20:33,253
Speaker 2: Phil Spencer. You know, none of which I could come

1554
01:20:33,533 --> 01:20:36,053
Speaker 2: remotely close to being able to afford, even if I,

1555
01:20:36,293 --> 01:20:38,893
Speaker 2: you know, work hard for the next three hundred years.

1556
01:20:38,973 --> 01:20:39,093
Speaker 9: You know.

1557
01:20:40,373 --> 01:20:42,573
Speaker 2: But obviously I think all of us like to suspend.

1558
01:20:42,773 --> 01:20:45,413
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily about owning it. It's about Yeah, there's

1559
01:20:45,413 --> 01:20:48,893
Speaker 2: something nice about kind of just suspending reality of owning.

1560
01:20:48,693 --> 01:20:51,573
Speaker 18: It, right, I look, I think the bits of both

1561
01:20:51,773 --> 01:20:54,253
Speaker 18: is definitely. I think we get that hit of you know,

1562
01:20:54,613 --> 01:20:56,813
Speaker 18: imagine if I live there and just for a moment

1563
01:20:56,933 --> 01:20:59,333
Speaker 18: you go off into your little dream world and you

1564
01:20:59,453 --> 01:21:03,653
Speaker 18: are living, you know, living in that place. But interestingly,

1565
01:21:03,733 --> 01:21:05,413
Speaker 18: some of the stats I saw they were about you know,

1566
01:21:05,533 --> 01:21:08,773
Speaker 18: some people actually use it to kind of set a

1567
01:21:08,813 --> 01:21:12,013
Speaker 18: goal for for finances. You know, they actually think I

1568
01:21:12,173 --> 01:21:14,733
Speaker 18: want to own it. Maybe not that particular one, but

1569
01:21:15,093 --> 01:21:18,973
Speaker 18: but something like that, or a step down from that

1570
01:21:19,053 --> 01:21:21,133
Speaker 18: would be I think about a third of people said

1571
01:21:21,173 --> 01:21:24,413
Speaker 18: they did it to find inspiration. You know, they go, well,

1572
01:21:24,573 --> 01:21:26,493
Speaker 18: I could never own that, but yeah I really like

1573
01:21:26,613 --> 01:21:30,053
Speaker 18: that that idea or that that particular aesthetic or whatever

1574
01:21:30,133 --> 01:21:32,773
Speaker 18: it is. And it's like, oh yeah, I've definitely done that.

1575
01:21:32,893 --> 01:21:34,773
Speaker 18: We you know, we did up our kitchen a few

1576
01:21:34,853 --> 01:21:36,733
Speaker 18: years ago, and you know, there was lots of dream

1577
01:21:36,813 --> 01:21:39,613
Speaker 18: scrolling going on there. But it's like, oh yeah, I

1578
01:21:39,613 --> 01:21:40,773
Speaker 18: could could definitely do it.

1579
01:21:42,253 --> 01:21:42,653
Speaker 3: Give you that.

1580
01:21:43,093 --> 01:21:45,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does it because and there must be like

1581
01:21:46,333 --> 01:21:49,173
Speaker 2: there must be I don't know, physiologically, it must give you.

1582
01:21:49,373 --> 01:21:51,213
Speaker 2: It gives you a little head of something, right, whether

1583
01:21:51,253 --> 01:21:53,173
Speaker 2: it's dopamine or whatever else, that you do get some

1584
01:21:53,333 --> 01:21:55,093
Speaker 2: sort of pleaser or satisfaction from a day.

1585
01:21:56,093 --> 01:21:59,813
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one assumes that it's a little dopamine

1586
01:21:59,853 --> 01:22:02,933
Speaker 18: that's that sort of feel good factor in the brain,

1587
01:22:03,533 --> 01:22:06,213
Speaker 18: which is truck dop Things always tricky, right, because it

1588
01:22:06,453 --> 01:22:09,013
Speaker 18: rewards you even when the things that you're doing aren't

1589
01:22:09,053 --> 01:22:12,413
Speaker 18: particularly you know, somebody wo once said to me, doth

1590
01:22:12,493 --> 01:22:18,173
Speaker 18: means a morally a morally ambiguous substance. It doesn't really

1591
01:22:18,293 --> 01:22:20,733
Speaker 18: care what you're doing, whether it's good or bad. It

1592
01:22:20,893 --> 01:22:24,213
Speaker 18: just gives you a hatty anyway. Yeah, And it's interesting

1593
01:22:24,293 --> 01:22:26,213
Speaker 18: for this dreams gool and the trade me stuff I

1594
01:22:26,253 --> 01:22:29,253
Speaker 18: think showed that that about twenty percent of people did

1595
01:22:29,293 --> 01:22:32,573
Speaker 18: it at work, right, and you know, and that they

1596
01:22:32,973 --> 01:22:35,093
Speaker 18: or some people did it on the toilet even, but

1597
01:22:35,213 --> 01:22:37,613
Speaker 18: that's probably not quite so relevant. But yeah, you know,

1598
01:22:37,933 --> 01:22:40,253
Speaker 18: and I definitely have seen I've done it myself at work.

1599
01:22:40,293 --> 01:22:42,133
Speaker 18: You know, you're wanting a sort of a brain break

1600
01:22:42,173 --> 01:22:43,893
Speaker 18: for a few minutes, and you just jump on your

1601
01:22:43,933 --> 01:22:46,493
Speaker 18: phone and scroll through what the latest listings are.

1602
01:22:47,053 --> 01:22:49,533
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any difference to Is there any

1603
01:22:49,573 --> 01:22:52,333
Speaker 2: downside to it apart from not being very productive at

1604
01:22:52,373 --> 01:22:54,453
Speaker 2: work or very productive toilet?

1605
01:22:54,693 --> 01:22:57,653
Speaker 14: The productivity, Yeah, the productivity.

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01:22:57,133 --> 01:23:01,213
Speaker 18: Thing's interesting because yeah, obviously in that moment you're not

1607
01:23:01,373 --> 01:23:04,733
Speaker 18: being productive. Yeah, but actually, if you think about it

1608
01:23:04,853 --> 01:23:08,013
Speaker 18: as taking a little five minute brain break from if

1609
01:23:08,013 --> 01:23:10,493
Speaker 18: you've been doing an intense use of concentration for an

1610
01:23:10,533 --> 01:23:12,653
Speaker 18: hour or so, which is actually quite a long time.

1611
01:23:14,213 --> 01:23:16,133
Speaker 18: There was some research in Japan that they did a

1612
01:23:16,173 --> 01:23:18,813
Speaker 18: few years ago on that they had that concept of kawai,

1613
01:23:19,013 --> 01:23:22,973
Speaker 18: which means cute and if you look at and this

1614
01:23:23,173 --> 01:23:24,813
Speaker 18: was sort of an early version of dream scrolling. I

1615
01:23:24,853 --> 01:23:27,933
Speaker 18: guess if you looked at scrolls through pictures of you know,

1616
01:23:28,213 --> 01:23:31,093
Speaker 18: happy animals and fluffy goats and all that kind of thing,

1617
01:23:31,973 --> 01:23:36,093
Speaker 18: it gave you that same sort of hat. But interestingly, afterwards,

1618
01:23:36,213 --> 01:23:39,413
Speaker 18: after you'd looked at that your concentration and productivity at

1619
01:23:39,453 --> 01:23:43,413
Speaker 18: work increased for the next hour. So it actually can

1620
01:23:43,573 --> 01:23:45,653
Speaker 18: have I mean, if you were doing an hour upon hour,

1621
01:23:45,693 --> 01:23:47,933
Speaker 18: it would obviously be downside of work, but I think

1622
01:23:48,013 --> 01:23:50,213
Speaker 18: actually it can have a positive spin off if you

1623
01:23:50,293 --> 01:23:52,773
Speaker 18: do it at work. But it may not please the

1624
01:23:52,813 --> 01:23:54,333
Speaker 18: boss very much if they catch you doing it.

1625
01:23:54,533 --> 01:23:57,853
Speaker 2: No, no, see, I was reflecting on my own dream scrolling,

1626
01:23:57,973 --> 01:24:01,973
Speaker 2: and I have I think in a way just kind

1627
01:24:01,973 --> 01:24:04,893
Speaker 2: of subconsciously made it, well, maybe not even subconsciously, maybe

1628
01:24:04,973 --> 01:24:08,133
Speaker 2: consciously made it part of my routine. So in the evening,

1629
01:24:08,973 --> 01:24:11,773
Speaker 2: like my wife and I will often watch a little

1630
01:24:11,773 --> 01:24:15,533
Speaker 2: bit of TV or something together, and then she will

1631
01:24:15,653 --> 01:24:17,213
Speaker 2: want to watch a show that she's interested in it,

1632
01:24:17,213 --> 01:24:19,573
Speaker 2: and I'll start to kind of wind down before bed.

1633
01:24:19,933 --> 01:24:21,693
Speaker 2: And I often find that when I jump into bed,

1634
01:24:21,733 --> 01:24:24,293
Speaker 2: I read a lot, but I read on my iPad,

1635
01:24:24,373 --> 01:24:26,093
Speaker 2: and so I turn off the blue light on iPad.

1636
01:24:26,293 --> 01:24:28,213
Speaker 2: But I've sort of got to this intermediate thing where

1637
01:24:28,253 --> 01:24:30,693
Speaker 2: when I get into bed, I like to sit there

1638
01:24:30,773 --> 01:24:33,893
Speaker 2: for fifteen minutes or so and dream scroll. So I

1639
01:24:34,013 --> 01:24:36,293
Speaker 2: go and I mean, trade me very cheeky. They've got

1640
01:24:36,333 --> 01:24:39,453
Speaker 2: this new if you go into the trade meet property app.

1641
01:24:39,573 --> 01:24:41,853
Speaker 2: They have this new area where they have pool side

1642
01:24:41,973 --> 01:24:44,373
Speaker 2: the properties we love, and so it's got a category

1643
01:24:44,693 --> 01:24:50,493
Speaker 2: pool side Paradise, beach front beauties, luxury homes. Yeah, they

1644
01:24:50,773 --> 01:24:53,653
Speaker 2: views to love. And so of course you're like, oh, well,

1645
01:24:53,693 --> 01:24:55,613
Speaker 2: I'll just I'll have a look at this eight million

1646
01:24:55,693 --> 01:24:57,653
Speaker 2: dollar house that I couldn't dream of having in. But

1647
01:24:57,813 --> 01:25:01,413
Speaker 2: for some reason, I find it just personally, I find

1648
01:25:01,453 --> 01:25:04,893
Speaker 2: it as like a really it's kind of totally mindless,

1649
01:25:06,493 --> 01:25:08,613
Speaker 2: and it helps me kind of disconnect from the stresses

1650
01:25:08,653 --> 01:25:11,293
Speaker 2: of the day by just my brain is almost less

1651
01:25:11,373 --> 01:25:12,733
Speaker 2: active than it is when I sleep, you know.

1652
01:25:13,653 --> 01:25:15,813
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, I mean I think that trade

1653
01:25:15,813 --> 01:25:18,053
Speaker 18: me data shows that about forty percent of people did

1654
01:25:18,133 --> 01:25:21,853
Speaker 18: it did it to unwind when they're in bed, And look,

1655
01:25:21,893 --> 01:25:23,613
Speaker 18: I think I think there's some real benefit in that.

1656
01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:26,733
Speaker 18: I'm always you know, somebody once said to me, the

1657
01:25:26,853 --> 01:25:29,013
Speaker 18: mood that you go to sleep in is the mood

1658
01:25:29,053 --> 01:25:31,533
Speaker 18: that you sleep in. So if you go to bed,

1659
01:25:31,973 --> 01:25:34,853
Speaker 18: you know, if you go to bed irritable and angry,

1660
01:25:34,973 --> 01:25:38,573
Speaker 18: then you often have an irritable, angry kind of sleep. Yeah,

1661
01:25:38,893 --> 01:25:40,653
Speaker 18: so it makes really good sense, I think if you're

1662
01:25:40,813 --> 01:25:44,613
Speaker 18: using it to relax and to feel good when you

1663
01:25:45,213 --> 01:25:47,573
Speaker 18: get into bed and go to sleep. You're probably increasing

1664
01:25:47,653 --> 01:25:50,813
Speaker 18: the chances of actually having a reasonably better night's sleep

1665
01:25:50,853 --> 01:25:51,773
Speaker 18: than you might otherwise.

1666
01:25:51,813 --> 01:25:53,573
Speaker 2: So I think it's probably you know.

1667
01:25:53,613 --> 01:25:55,933
Speaker 18: It's probably one of those really useful sort of self

1668
01:25:56,053 --> 01:25:57,973
Speaker 18: care techniques which is probably quite good.

1669
01:25:58,093 --> 01:26:01,053
Speaker 2: And probably honestly much better than social media, like if

1670
01:26:01,093 --> 01:26:03,253
Speaker 2: you do that as opposed to just going on and

1671
01:26:03,293 --> 01:26:08,133
Speaker 2: getting angry you know. Yeah, yeah, I suppose some social

1672
01:26:08,213 --> 01:26:11,133
Speaker 2: media has a kind of a dream scroll element to it,

1673
01:26:11,173 --> 01:26:13,173
Speaker 2: doesn't it, depending on what you follow and what platform

1674
01:26:13,213 --> 01:26:13,573
Speaker 2: you're using.

1675
01:26:14,133 --> 01:26:16,493
Speaker 18: Yeah, it can do, I mean, and it's interesting too,

1676
01:26:16,533 --> 01:26:19,013
Speaker 18: you know, going back to that point about dophamine, you'll

1677
01:26:19,013 --> 01:26:21,653
Speaker 18: get that dopamine hit from the fact that people have

1678
01:26:21,973 --> 01:26:27,053
Speaker 18: liked your angry comment, which nicely illustrates the sort of

1679
01:26:27,253 --> 01:26:32,253
Speaker 18: moral ambiguity of dophamine. But you know, yeah, I would say,

1680
01:26:32,253 --> 01:26:34,093
Speaker 18: if you want a good night's sleep, way better to

1681
01:26:34,213 --> 01:26:37,773
Speaker 18: be dream scrolling on your phone than sort of scrolling

1682
01:26:37,933 --> 01:26:41,413
Speaker 18: through sort of nasty, you know, comments on whatever your

1683
01:26:41,453 --> 01:26:44,493
Speaker 18: social platform is. Yeah, because it would be you know,

1684
01:26:44,653 --> 01:26:46,333
Speaker 18: it's it's going to give you and put you in

1685
01:26:46,373 --> 01:26:47,733
Speaker 18: a much mereter place to go to sleep.

1686
01:26:47,893 --> 01:26:50,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, fantastic. I totally agree with that. But it's

1687
01:26:50,653 --> 01:26:53,333
Speaker 2: always good though, if you can get off the internet ultimately,

1688
01:26:53,453 --> 01:26:58,693
Speaker 2: so I usually intermediate step TV. Yeah, a bit of

1689
01:26:58,773 --> 01:27:00,533
Speaker 2: dream scrolling and then a bit of reading and then

1690
01:27:00,573 --> 01:27:03,933
Speaker 2: good night and yeah yeah yeah yeah it's perfect. Yeah,

1691
01:27:04,013 --> 01:27:06,173
Speaker 2: very good. Hey, thanks so much, Dogle, appreciate it's always Doogle,

1692
01:27:06,213 --> 01:27:08,933
Speaker 2: some clinical psychologist from Umbrella Well Being with us there.

1693
01:27:10,053 --> 01:27:12,093
Speaker 2: Just coming up to sixteen minutes past eleven. We're going

1694
01:27:12,133 --> 01:27:14,053
Speaker 2: to catch up with our book reviewer next get her

1695
01:27:14,133 --> 01:27:18,613
Speaker 2: thoughts on Graham Norton's latest read, eighteen pastor eleven. You're

1696
01:27:18,613 --> 01:27:20,533
Speaker 2: a Jack Daime on News Talks. They'd be time to

1697
01:27:20,573 --> 01:27:24,253
Speaker 2: catch up with our book reviewer, Katherine rain Scald Catherine,

1698
01:27:24,613 --> 01:27:28,133
Speaker 2: Morning Jack. I know so many people are really excited

1699
01:27:28,133 --> 01:27:31,093
Speaker 2: about this one. Graham Norton has just published his latest

1700
01:27:31,133 --> 01:27:32,333
Speaker 2: so tell us about Frankie.

1701
01:27:33,973 --> 01:27:36,453
Speaker 19: So this book has been described as utterly absorbing and

1702
01:27:36,533 --> 01:27:39,053
Speaker 19: I have to agree. And the main character is a

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01:27:39,093 --> 01:27:41,733
Speaker 19: woman called Miss Frankie Haff and she's this elderly lady

1704
01:27:41,973 --> 01:27:44,093
Speaker 19: and she has a fall and she requires an in

1705
01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:47,213
Speaker 19: home nurse and the person sent to look after as

1706
01:27:47,213 --> 01:27:49,613
Speaker 19: a young Irish care a guy called Damien, and he

1707
01:27:49,653 --> 01:27:52,133
Speaker 19: happens to be working in London at the time, and

1708
01:27:52,213 --> 01:27:56,013
Speaker 19: Frankie's extremely prickly at first. She's a very independent woman,

1709
01:27:56,133 --> 01:27:59,413
Speaker 19: but actually they end up forming this friendship and to

1710
01:27:59,533 --> 01:28:03,693
Speaker 19: pass the time, Frankie tells Damien her life story and

1711
01:28:03,973 --> 01:28:05,933
Speaker 19: she's had a long life, and there's lots of errors,

1712
01:28:05,973 --> 01:28:08,853
Speaker 19: and you get of motion and connection, and it spans

1713
01:28:08,933 --> 01:28:12,333
Speaker 19: decades from postwar Ireland to nineteen sixties London, then to

1714
01:28:12,453 --> 01:28:14,613
Speaker 19: New York and back to London again to the late

1715
01:28:14,733 --> 01:28:18,133
Speaker 19: a's to the present day, and the story unfolds and

1716
01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:21,413
Speaker 19: parts from her girlhood to her old age and her

1717
01:28:21,653 --> 01:28:25,093
Speaker 19: life and the lows and highs and heartaches and the victories,

1718
01:28:25,173 --> 01:28:28,853
Speaker 19: and in particular she talks about the AIDS epidemic in

1719
01:28:28,933 --> 01:28:31,493
Speaker 19: New York in the nineteenties, and it's just Graham Norton

1720
01:28:31,493 --> 01:28:34,213
Speaker 19: deals with it with such compassion and impact on his

1721
01:28:34,373 --> 01:28:37,613
Speaker 19: characters and how you feel about it when you're reading.

1722
01:28:37,693 --> 01:28:40,053
Speaker 19: And it has such wonderful characters, and it's a novel

1723
01:28:40,053 --> 01:28:43,013
Speaker 19: of friendship, and particularly Frankie herself and her best friend Laura,

1724
01:28:43,573 --> 01:28:45,893
Speaker 19: and the unfolding tale of her life and her remarkable

1725
01:28:46,013 --> 01:28:49,853
Speaker 19: life and the writing is incredibly insightful and very engaging.

1726
01:28:50,013 --> 01:28:54,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it sounds wonderful. Isn't he just an absurdly

1727
01:28:54,173 --> 01:28:56,453
Speaker 2: talented person, you know, like he is?

1728
01:28:56,813 --> 01:28:57,093
Speaker 9: He is.

1729
01:28:57,213 --> 01:28:59,933
Speaker 2: I mean it's broadcasting. I watch is broadcasting, and as

1730
01:28:59,933 --> 01:29:02,733
Speaker 2: someone with you know, a bit of experience in broadcasting,

1731
01:29:02,773 --> 01:29:04,813
Speaker 2: although nothing on that scale, I just look at him

1732
01:29:04,893 --> 01:29:07,253
Speaker 2: and I'm in awe when I see him working, see

1733
01:29:07,293 --> 01:29:09,333
Speaker 2: how clever he is at bringing people in when they

1734
01:29:09,413 --> 01:29:11,373
Speaker 2: need to be brought in and just managing all of

1735
01:29:11,453 --> 01:29:14,093
Speaker 2: those people at once. But then to know that he

1736
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:16,093
Speaker 2: can write fiction like this as well, it's just like,

1737
01:29:16,213 --> 01:29:18,093
Speaker 2: oh man, some people have all the gifts.

1738
01:29:18,853 --> 01:29:21,133
Speaker 19: And continuing to do so. He's written a number of

1739
01:29:21,293 --> 01:29:23,573
Speaker 19: really good books now, and he takes different themes and

1740
01:29:23,653 --> 01:29:26,893
Speaker 19: different ideas. And I was very engrossed. And Frankie and

1741
01:29:27,373 --> 01:29:29,853
Speaker 19: She's interesting because when you watch his program, you can feel,

1742
01:29:30,333 --> 01:29:31,933
Speaker 19: you know, how he ties as you talked about, how

1743
01:29:31,973 --> 01:29:34,093
Speaker 19: he ties those guests together. He does that really well

1744
01:29:34,173 --> 01:29:36,053
Speaker 19: in a novel form as well, and how he brings

1745
01:29:36,093 --> 01:29:39,093
Speaker 19: the parts of the story together. Yes, very insightful about people.

1746
01:29:39,253 --> 01:29:42,373
Speaker 19: He obviously spends a lot of time thinking and watching people.

1747
01:29:42,613 --> 01:29:44,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Okay, that sounds great. So

1748
01:29:45,093 --> 01:29:47,293
Speaker 2: that's Frankie by Graham Norton. You've also read The Life

1749
01:29:47,333 --> 01:29:48,653
Speaker 2: Impossible by Matt Haig.

1750
01:29:49,733 --> 01:29:52,813
Speaker 19: So Matt Hages's words force you to consider life in

1751
01:29:52,933 --> 01:29:57,173
Speaker 19: a very different and quite original perspective. And he adds

1752
01:29:57,293 --> 01:30:00,613
Speaker 19: magical realism into his story and tells a tale around it.

1753
01:30:01,013 --> 01:30:02,973
Speaker 19: And this one is about Grace Winter, and she's a

1754
01:30:03,013 --> 01:30:07,133
Speaker 19: retired mass teacher and she's in his seventies. She's full

1755
01:30:07,173 --> 01:30:11,733
Speaker 19: of regret. Her husband passed away and her son was

1756
01:30:12,013 --> 01:30:14,733
Speaker 19: killed very early in his life, and she's struggling with

1757
01:30:14,853 --> 01:30:18,573
Speaker 19: that life and she really doesn't enjoy her day day living.

1758
01:30:19,173 --> 01:30:21,653
Speaker 19: And then out of the blue, she's bequeathed a property

1759
01:30:21,733 --> 01:30:24,693
Speaker 19: in Ibiza from a rooman called Christine that she hadn't

1760
01:30:24,693 --> 01:30:27,013
Speaker 19: seen in a very long time. And the only thing

1761
01:30:27,093 --> 01:30:29,213
Speaker 19: she really remembers about her is that at one point

1762
01:30:29,293 --> 01:30:31,133
Speaker 19: they worked together and she did her a good turn,

1763
01:30:31,573 --> 01:30:33,853
Speaker 19: and that she had the Saint Christopher's necklace from many

1764
01:30:34,093 --> 01:30:37,373
Speaker 19: years ago. And Christine kind of disappeared under mysterious circumstances,

1765
01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:39,853
Speaker 19: and her curiosity decides to get the better of her,

1766
01:30:39,893 --> 01:30:42,533
Speaker 19: and she flies out to Ibitha to find out what

1767
01:30:42,733 --> 01:30:45,893
Speaker 19: happened and where Christina is and the house is really

1768
01:30:46,013 --> 01:30:49,093
Speaker 19: nothing special, but her friend left her a letter and

1769
01:30:49,213 --> 01:30:51,493
Speaker 19: then she goes off to meet this man called Alberta,

1770
01:30:51,573 --> 01:30:54,173
Speaker 19: who Christina seemed to be very close to, and they

1771
01:30:54,253 --> 01:30:57,293
Speaker 19: go on this late night dive together and life changes.

1772
01:30:57,933 --> 01:31:01,093
Speaker 19: But Matt Hay captures the people and the scenery and

1773
01:31:01,333 --> 01:31:05,333
Speaker 19: Ibitha and this world and the Mediterranean magic in such

1774
01:31:05,373 --> 01:31:08,333
Speaker 19: an amazing way. And there's lots of ideas and themes

1775
01:31:08,373 --> 01:31:10,493
Speaker 19: around this book, and those universal themes of love and

1776
01:31:10,573 --> 01:31:13,173
Speaker 19: hope and planet and how we all exist together, and

1777
01:31:13,253 --> 01:31:17,453
Speaker 19: without giving the story way it takes you into in

1778
01:31:17,493 --> 01:31:19,293
Speaker 19: a place where you wouldn't expect to go.

1779
01:31:20,253 --> 01:31:24,173
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Okay, that's the Life Impossible by Matt Haig. Catherine's

1780
01:31:24,173 --> 01:31:26,653
Speaker 2: first book once again Frankie by Graham Norton, and both

1781
01:31:26,653 --> 01:31:29,213
Speaker 2: of those will of course be on the website. It

1782
01:31:29,373 --> 01:31:32,573
Speaker 2: is twenty three minutes past eleven on news Storks. He'd

1783
01:31:32,573 --> 01:31:34,213
Speaker 2: be yes, of course, the website is the best place

1784
01:31:34,253 --> 01:31:36,013
Speaker 2: to go for everything from our show. A couple of

1785
01:31:36,093 --> 01:31:39,893
Speaker 2: textas asking about the delicious asparagus keish recipe we shared

1786
01:31:39,893 --> 01:31:41,733
Speaker 2: with you earlier in the show This Morning we just

1787
01:31:41,773 --> 01:31:44,453
Speaker 2: put everything up at Newstalks. He'db dot co dot nz

1788
01:31:44,733 --> 01:31:50,893
Speaker 2: Ford slash Jack So Catherine's recommendations and reviews, our film reviews,

1789
01:31:51,253 --> 01:31:53,813
Speaker 2: TV shows. All that good stuff goes up on the website.

1790
01:31:53,853 --> 01:31:56,653
Speaker 2: So you never need to scribble something down furiously on

1791
01:31:56,693 --> 01:31:58,333
Speaker 2: a piece of paper or try and write a note

1792
01:31:58,373 --> 01:32:00,253
Speaker 2: on your phone, nothing like that. You don't need to

1793
01:32:00,253 --> 01:32:01,973
Speaker 2: worry about it. You can simply go to the website

1794
01:32:02,013 --> 01:32:03,933
Speaker 2: and follow it all. Now before midday, we've got that

1795
01:32:04,013 --> 01:32:06,653
Speaker 2: new music for you from Nellie Fittado. Next up, though

1796
01:32:06,973 --> 01:32:08,893
Speaker 2: we are counting down to the All Blacks taking on

1797
01:32:08,933 --> 01:32:12,093
Speaker 2: the Wallabies led us Low kicks off of course five

1798
01:32:12,213 --> 01:32:15,533
Speaker 2: forty five this evening New Zealand time in Sydney. We'll

1799
01:32:15,533 --> 01:32:17,093
Speaker 2: get Jason Pines thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Next, getting your weekend started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

1801
01:32:24,893 --> 01:32:27,173
Speaker 1: Team on news talksb.

1802
01:32:31,773 --> 01:32:34,613
Speaker 3: Out can't be Can't.

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01:32:38,493 --> 01:32:41,173
Speaker 12: Instead a two years on the reason my.

1804
01:32:41,453 --> 01:32:43,173
Speaker 14: Dast to count the.

1805
01:32:45,693 --> 01:32:48,893
Speaker 2: New stop zv You with Jack Tame. Then after midday

1806
01:32:48,933 --> 01:32:51,933
Speaker 2: today Jason Pine is then for weekend sport, counting down

1807
01:32:52,773 --> 01:32:54,613
Speaker 2: to the All Blacks Wallabies. We're gonna have the live

1808
01:32:54,693 --> 01:32:57,813
Speaker 2: call of course this evening five forty five kickoff Sydney

1809
01:32:58,013 --> 01:33:00,453
Speaker 2: bled us Low one for twenty twenty four pintings with

1810
01:33:00,573 --> 01:33:03,613
Speaker 2: us Now, Kyota, Sir, Kyota, Sir. I love Bletter Slow

1811
01:33:03,693 --> 01:33:09,813
Speaker 2: Cup day, so do I. But but what but I look,

1812
01:33:09,853 --> 01:33:11,453
Speaker 2: I'm just being a bit of a d B downer today,

1813
01:33:11,453 --> 01:33:14,173
Speaker 2: to be perfectly asked. Not I just I just think,

1814
01:33:14,253 --> 01:33:18,573
Speaker 2: if we're one hundred honest about it, the Australian rugby

1815
01:33:18,653 --> 01:33:21,773
Speaker 2: team has not been where we need it to be

1816
01:33:22,053 --> 01:33:25,253
Speaker 2: to ensure really good level contests for some time now.

1817
01:33:25,933 --> 01:33:29,293
Speaker 2: And the fact that it's twenty two years since they

1818
01:33:29,373 --> 01:33:31,493
Speaker 2: last won the bled is Low and the fact that

1819
01:33:31,573 --> 01:33:34,813
Speaker 2: they got absolutely pumped by Argentina a couple of weeks

1820
01:33:34,853 --> 01:33:37,853
Speaker 2: ago does not make me all that confident that the

1821
01:33:37,933 --> 01:33:40,173
Speaker 2: Aussie are going to put up a huge fight tonight.

1822
01:33:40,413 --> 01:33:40,573
Speaker 3: Now.

1823
01:33:41,293 --> 01:33:43,093
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I want us to lose, don't get

1824
01:33:43,133 --> 01:33:46,693
Speaker 2: me wrong here, but I do think that the more

1825
01:33:46,733 --> 01:33:49,293
Speaker 2: competitive the Wallabies, the better for New Zealand and rugby.

1826
01:33:49,373 --> 01:33:50,773
Speaker 2: And they've been a long way off the best for

1827
01:33:50,853 --> 01:33:51,333
Speaker 2: some time now.

1828
01:33:51,493 --> 01:33:53,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, And that's a good summation. It is a good summation.

1829
01:33:53,533 --> 01:33:55,653
Speaker 16: And look, I guess the counterpoint to that is that

1830
01:33:56,493 --> 01:33:59,173
Speaker 16: they always seem to play better against us than other teams.

1831
01:33:59,253 --> 01:33:59,693
Speaker 2: That's true.

1832
01:34:00,013 --> 01:34:02,133
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, and I think you know you're right a

1833
01:34:02,173 --> 01:34:06,493
Speaker 16: couple of weeks ago, getting you know, fifty points the

1834
01:34:06,573 --> 01:34:08,293
Speaker 16: second half check for goodness, say.

1835
01:34:08,173 --> 01:34:11,293
Speaker 2: And they started strong. This was like, oh right, okay,

1836
01:34:11,373 --> 01:34:13,053
Speaker 2: here we go. I was just going to upset the

1837
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:13,973
Speaker 2: Argies once again.

1838
01:34:14,093 --> 01:34:18,173
Speaker 16: New No, it wasn't to be. Look, I'm really looking

1839
01:34:18,253 --> 01:34:20,533
Speaker 16: forward to it. As I say, I love All Blacks

1840
01:34:20,573 --> 01:34:23,093
Speaker 16: Australia test matches. They always sustes something about them. They

1841
01:34:23,133 --> 01:34:26,453
Speaker 16: always remind me of test matches passed. And look, you

1842
01:34:26,573 --> 01:34:29,053
Speaker 16: remember back in the late nineties, early two thousands, we

1843
01:34:29,133 --> 01:34:30,813
Speaker 16: didn't know from week to week if we were going

1844
01:34:30,893 --> 01:34:32,333
Speaker 16: to beat them or not. And that I think is

1845
01:34:32,813 --> 01:34:35,373
Speaker 16: the landscape we'd love to be in again. We're not,

1846
01:34:35,933 --> 01:34:38,293
Speaker 16: but there's still I think a few things to look

1847
01:34:38,373 --> 01:34:41,093
Speaker 16: forward to. I'll tell what I'm hoping for as a

1848
01:34:41,213 --> 01:34:43,613
Speaker 16: complete performance from the All Blacks. We haven't really seen

1849
01:34:43,653 --> 01:34:45,453
Speaker 16: that at all this year. We had a great forty

1850
01:34:45,453 --> 01:34:47,613
Speaker 16: minutes against Argentina or at Eden Parker then that's the

1851
01:34:47,653 --> 01:34:50,853
Speaker 16: closest we've come to a complete All Blacks performance under Razor.

1852
01:34:51,133 --> 01:34:52,813
Speaker 16: I'd like to see that for a couple of reasons

1853
01:34:52,853 --> 01:34:55,253
Speaker 16: to see it, but also because I think it might

1854
01:34:55,333 --> 01:34:58,093
Speaker 16: then open up the possibility of a couple of the

1855
01:34:58,173 --> 01:35:01,813
Speaker 16: less experienced younger guys getting a crack next weekend in Wellington.

1856
01:35:01,853 --> 01:35:04,093
Speaker 16: The Blends like couple be sold up of course for

1857
01:35:04,133 --> 01:35:06,973
Speaker 16: another year if they win tonight, So it might give

1858
01:35:07,013 --> 01:35:08,933
Speaker 16: the likes of Noah Hotham and Billy Proctor and even

1859
01:35:08,933 --> 01:35:10,733
Speaker 16: George Bell someone like that, you know, the chance to

1860
01:35:11,653 --> 01:35:14,013
Speaker 16: even even Harry Plummer to get an All Blacks debut

1861
01:35:14,293 --> 01:35:17,493
Speaker 16: next week in Wellington. Because he's been pretty conservative with

1862
01:35:17,613 --> 01:35:21,213
Speaker 16: his with his selections, has raised that and probably by necessity, Jack,

1863
01:35:21,253 --> 01:35:24,333
Speaker 16: because when you're losing, you don't want to necessarily throw

1864
01:35:24,413 --> 01:35:27,213
Speaker 16: guys into the you know, into the frying pan or

1865
01:35:27,293 --> 01:35:30,213
Speaker 16: out of the fire or whatever the metaphor us. But

1866
01:35:30,413 --> 01:35:32,293
Speaker 16: you know, so I'd quite like to see us win

1867
01:35:32,653 --> 01:35:34,333
Speaker 16: so that he is a bit freer to do that

1868
01:35:34,453 --> 01:35:34,853
Speaker 16: next week.

1869
01:35:34,973 --> 01:35:37,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Yeah, that's a good way to look

1870
01:35:37,053 --> 01:35:37,213
Speaker 2: at it.

1871
01:35:37,293 --> 01:35:37,493
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1872
01:35:38,413 --> 01:35:40,813
Speaker 2: Is there anything about the selections that surprised.

1873
01:35:40,413 --> 01:35:45,213
Speaker 16: You will Jordan, I thought was going to be fullback

1874
01:35:45,253 --> 01:35:46,973
Speaker 16: for Raser. I thought, you know, having played there for

1875
01:35:47,053 --> 01:35:50,293
Speaker 16: the Crusaders so often and so brilliantly that I just

1876
01:35:50,413 --> 01:35:52,933
Speaker 16: assumed that once he got the fifteen jersey, he would

1877
01:35:52,933 --> 01:35:54,933
Speaker 16: stay in the fifteen jersey. Yeah, he got the fifteen

1878
01:35:55,013 --> 01:35:56,493
Speaker 16: jersey last week and now he's back on the right

1879
01:35:56,533 --> 01:35:57,213
Speaker 16: wing and fourteen.

1880
01:35:57,893 --> 01:35:59,333
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not saying it was a

1881
01:35:59,413 --> 01:36:02,053
Speaker 2: terrible game, but I mean last week wasn't great, was it? No,

1882
01:36:02,333 --> 01:36:02,693
Speaker 2: that's right.

1883
01:36:02,733 --> 01:36:05,053
Speaker 16: But then but then you think, okay, well Will Jordan

1884
01:36:05,173 --> 01:36:08,213
Speaker 16: is a class player. Yeah, just like I think he

1885
01:36:08,373 --> 01:36:11,253
Speaker 16: probably will be the long term fifteen. So I you know,

1886
01:36:11,493 --> 01:36:13,293
Speaker 16: you look at what he's done with Damien McKenzie. He's

1887
01:36:13,293 --> 01:36:15,893
Speaker 16: played every single Test match at ten. He said, right,

1888
01:36:16,013 --> 01:36:18,813
Speaker 16: you are my number ten, here's the ten jersey, it's yours.

1889
01:36:19,453 --> 01:36:21,213
Speaker 16: You know, don't worry. I'm going to keep you in

1890
01:36:21,293 --> 01:36:22,853
Speaker 16: there at least for the first half of the year.

1891
01:36:22,933 --> 01:36:24,733
Speaker 16: And he's done that. I would have quite liked to

1892
01:36:24,773 --> 01:36:27,413
Speaker 16: have seen Will Jordan I got another crack in fifteen

1893
01:36:27,493 --> 01:36:30,213
Speaker 16: with I think, you know, we'd both agree a little

1894
01:36:30,253 --> 01:36:33,533
Speaker 16: bit more space this afternoon than he was afforded in

1895
01:36:33,653 --> 01:36:35,413
Speaker 16: Cape Town last week. But he's on the right wing.

1896
01:36:35,493 --> 01:36:37,893
Speaker 16: He's a destructive player. He'll probably make the most of

1897
01:36:37,933 --> 01:36:38,333
Speaker 16: that space.

1898
01:36:38,373 --> 01:36:38,733
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1899
01:36:39,053 --> 01:36:42,173
Speaker 16: But yeah, just that was probably the selection that that

1900
01:36:42,893 --> 01:36:44,453
Speaker 16: made me raise my eyebrows the most.

1901
01:36:44,613 --> 01:36:46,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what do you think of Cortez?

1902
01:36:46,973 --> 01:36:48,733
Speaker 16: I like that, Yeah, I like that. I think he's

1903
01:36:48,773 --> 01:36:51,413
Speaker 16: a placeholder for cam roy Gard if we're honest. But

1904
01:36:51,533 --> 01:36:54,493
Speaker 16: those two going forward as a one to two punch

1905
01:36:54,653 --> 01:36:58,213
Speaker 16: will be particularly potent a nullah Hotham in that argument

1906
01:36:58,253 --> 01:37:00,773
Speaker 16: as well. T J Petnada. We may well say goodbye

1907
01:37:00,813 --> 01:37:03,573
Speaker 16: to him in Wellington next weekend. I'm not sure that

1908
01:37:03,653 --> 01:37:05,813
Speaker 16: he'll go on the end of year tour because we

1909
01:37:05,853 --> 01:37:07,933
Speaker 16: know he's leave at the end of this year, so

1910
01:37:08,013 --> 01:37:09,773
Speaker 16: it may be that he gets a Swan song next week.

1911
01:37:09,853 --> 01:37:11,933
Speaker 16: Still a part to play off the bench today and

1912
01:37:12,053 --> 01:37:15,013
Speaker 16: probably next week for TJ. But yeah, Cortez, he is

1913
01:37:15,133 --> 01:37:17,893
Speaker 16: part of the future, as as roy Guard, as as Hotham.

1914
01:37:18,493 --> 01:37:19,613
Speaker 16: So yeah, I think we're in a little bit of

1915
01:37:19,613 --> 01:37:21,733
Speaker 16: a transitional stage around our half backs at the moment.

1916
01:37:21,853 --> 01:37:24,453
Speaker 2: I think that's fair cool, right the black Caps. It's

1917
01:37:24,493 --> 01:37:30,053
Speaker 2: been a relatively evenly contested test in Sri Lanka so far,

1918
01:37:30,173 --> 01:37:32,453
Speaker 2: although you would have to say that Day three belonged

1919
01:37:32,493 --> 01:37:35,053
Speaker 2: to the Sri Lankans after we had that narrow first innings, Lee,

1920
01:37:35,133 --> 01:37:36,213
Speaker 2: what have you made of the Test so far?

1921
01:37:36,533 --> 01:37:38,533
Speaker 16: Yeah, it got away from his yesterday in some regards,

1922
01:37:38,573 --> 01:37:40,693
Speaker 16: didn't it. And the fact that we didn't make the

1923
01:37:40,773 --> 01:37:43,293
Speaker 16: most of guys who got to fifty or thereabouts and

1924
01:37:43,333 --> 01:37:47,053
Speaker 16: didn't cack on and then just unable for whatever reason

1925
01:37:47,133 --> 01:37:50,333
Speaker 16: to get the breakthroughs that were required. And you know,

1926
01:37:50,453 --> 01:37:52,933
Speaker 16: I know you've got a you can't just bowl and

1927
01:37:52,973 --> 01:37:54,573
Speaker 16: bowl and bowl a fast bowler in the heat of

1928
01:37:54,613 --> 01:37:56,533
Speaker 16: Sri Lanka. But will O Rook's been our best by

1929
01:37:56,933 --> 01:37:59,533
Speaker 16: some distance. Eight wickets he's got so far in this

1930
01:37:59,893 --> 01:38:02,773
Speaker 16: Test match. Of the fourteen that the black Caps have got,

1931
01:38:02,813 --> 01:38:05,133
Speaker 16: he's got eight of them and it's looked really, really good.

1932
01:38:05,213 --> 01:38:07,813
Speaker 16: But yeah, the spinner's not getting the penetration we needed.

1933
01:38:07,813 --> 01:38:09,693
Speaker 16: I think Sri Lanka are ahead in the Test match.

1934
01:38:10,253 --> 01:38:13,133
Speaker 16: Sri Lankan presidential elections today, Jack, So it's a rest

1935
01:38:14,013 --> 01:38:14,973
Speaker 16: no cricket today.

1936
01:38:15,333 --> 01:38:16,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, get they get a.

1937
01:38:16,533 --> 01:38:20,053
Speaker 16: Rest the way back tomorrow. But yeah, they're not favorite

1938
01:38:20,093 --> 01:38:22,533
Speaker 16: to win the Test. I think Sri Lanka will bat

1939
01:38:22,613 --> 01:38:25,053
Speaker 16: for a bit longer and with that pitch turning, I

1940
01:38:25,173 --> 01:38:27,413
Speaker 16: just you know, it will be a real stiff examination

1941
01:38:27,853 --> 01:38:29,813
Speaker 16: of our ability to play spin in the fourth innings

1942
01:38:29,813 --> 01:38:30,653
Speaker 16: of a Test match over there.

1943
01:38:30,773 --> 01:38:33,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting to see how those

1944
01:38:33,373 --> 01:38:35,853
Speaker 2: conditions hold up as well, because yeah, there's been a

1945
01:38:35,973 --> 01:38:37,813
Speaker 2: bit a bit of rain and so far, but hopefully

1946
01:38:37,853 --> 01:38:41,213
Speaker 2: they do get play after the election results come through. Yeah,

1947
01:38:41,453 --> 01:38:43,453
Speaker 2: so all right, we'll looking forward to this afternoon. What

1948
01:38:43,493 --> 01:38:44,133
Speaker 2: do you got on the show?

1949
01:38:44,453 --> 01:38:46,853
Speaker 16: I'm really looking forward to chatting to Joe Roff after

1950
01:38:46,933 --> 01:38:48,973
Speaker 16: one o'clock. He was a part of those Australian teams

1951
01:38:49,013 --> 01:38:51,773
Speaker 16: I mentioned before. He used to terrorize us along with

1952
01:38:51,853 --> 01:38:55,813
Speaker 16: the Gregan Larkham horror, Little Burke you know, and others

1953
01:38:55,813 --> 01:38:58,613
Speaker 16: as well. He's the president of Rugby Australia now, but

1954
01:38:58,693 --> 01:39:00,253
Speaker 16: I want to talk to him about those clashes with

1955
01:39:00,333 --> 01:39:02,333
Speaker 16: the All Blacks and also what he does these days

1956
01:39:02,373 --> 01:39:04,653
Speaker 16: to try and impact an improvement of the Wallabies. Mike

1957
01:39:04,693 --> 01:39:07,733
Speaker 16: Brewer after Midday as well, played all three positions on

1958
01:39:07,773 --> 01:39:09,373
Speaker 16: the loose forwards for the All Blacks. Kind of hair

1959
01:39:09,533 --> 01:39:12,693
Speaker 16: thoughts and lots of the ZB audience I know, Jack,

1960
01:39:12,733 --> 01:39:14,573
Speaker 16: as you'll know, we'll want to have their say on this,

1961
01:39:14,893 --> 01:39:18,853
Speaker 16: so I'm going to fascilla take that this afternoon on Weekend.

1962
01:39:18,613 --> 01:39:20,573
Speaker 2: Sport as well, yeah, look forward to it. Thank you, sir.

1963
01:39:20,813 --> 01:39:22,773
Speaker 2: We to let you get warmed up. Jason Pine with

1964
01:39:22,893 --> 01:39:25,933
Speaker 2: us after midday with Weekend sport O. Hamish Makai suffect

1965
01:39:25,933 --> 01:39:27,573
Speaker 2: this a note. This is a good point Jack and

1966
01:39:27,653 --> 01:39:31,213
Speaker 2: Piney forget the Wallaby second half versus the argis it's

1967
01:39:31,253 --> 01:39:32,693
Speaker 2: giving us a false sense of security.

1968
01:39:32,773 --> 01:39:32,933
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1969
01:39:32,933 --> 01:39:36,533
Speaker 2: I think that there's probably a fair point. It's a

1970
01:39:36,653 --> 01:39:40,173
Speaker 2: dangerous business trying to make any calls of predictions of

1971
01:39:40,213 --> 01:39:42,453
Speaker 2: the sporting world when it comes to broadcasting life. But

1972
01:39:42,733 --> 01:39:45,013
Speaker 2: thank you for that, Hamish. Right now is twenty seven

1973
01:39:45,053 --> 01:39:46,893
Speaker 2: to twelve before midday. I got their new music from

1974
01:39:46,933 --> 01:39:50,733
Speaker 2: Nellie Fittado. Next up, our travel correspondent is taking us

1975
01:39:50,813 --> 01:39:53,133
Speaker 2: to the Atherton table Lands in North Queensland.

1976
01:39:54,493 --> 01:39:57,133
Speaker 3: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

1977
01:39:57,333 --> 01:40:00,493
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and bepwart on code dot

1978
01:40:00,613 --> 01:40:04,933
Speaker 1: Nzen for high quality supplements used talk zenb Travel with

1979
01:40:05,133 --> 01:40:08,293
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1980
01:40:08,093 --> 01:40:08,973
Speaker 3: Around the world.

1981
01:40:09,333 --> 01:40:12,933
Speaker 2: Mike Yardley is the man we all envia travel correspondent

1982
01:40:12,973 --> 01:40:13,813
Speaker 2: on Saturday Mornings.

1983
01:40:13,853 --> 01:40:16,053
Speaker 5: Hey Mike, good morning Jack.

1984
01:40:16,133 --> 01:40:18,013
Speaker 14: I have no idea where I am at the moment.

1985
01:40:18,053 --> 01:40:20,733
Speaker 14: I've been on the plane and I just feel totally adult.

1986
01:40:20,813 --> 01:40:22,373
Speaker 14: But I do know that the All Blacks will win

1987
01:40:22,453 --> 01:40:23,373
Speaker 14: today by about.

1988
01:40:23,133 --> 01:40:25,013
Speaker 2: The five points, oh five points.

1989
01:40:25,893 --> 01:40:27,013
Speaker 14: I think it'll be a squeaker.

1990
01:40:27,373 --> 01:40:29,933
Speaker 2: Ah well, if look history is anything to go by,

1991
01:40:29,933 --> 01:40:32,493
Speaker 2: at least this season, your calls have almost proved to

1992
01:40:32,573 --> 01:40:35,253
Speaker 2: be universally wrong at every single time, at every single point.

1993
01:40:35,333 --> 01:40:37,293
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to put too much stock in that,

1994
01:40:37,413 --> 01:40:39,493
Speaker 2: except to note that you're being more cautious than I am,

1995
01:40:39,533 --> 01:40:42,413
Speaker 2: which I think is a prudent measure, Thank you. Yeah,

1996
01:40:42,413 --> 01:40:44,933
Speaker 2: I think it's a prudent measure. Anyway. Hey, we're looking

1997
01:40:44,973 --> 01:40:47,973
Speaker 2: at the Atherton table Lands in North Queensland this morning,

1998
01:40:48,053 --> 01:40:49,893
Speaker 2: so if you want a bit of a cool change

1999
01:40:50,613 --> 01:40:53,893
Speaker 2: from the tropical heat of Kean's in the coast. What

2000
01:40:54,333 --> 01:40:56,133
Speaker 2: is so distinctive about the table lands.

2001
01:40:57,253 --> 01:41:00,733
Speaker 14: It's eight hundred meters higher, Jack, so if you're overcooking

2002
01:41:00,813 --> 01:41:03,373
Speaker 14: on the coast, the teams are generally five even ten

2003
01:41:03,453 --> 01:41:06,973
Speaker 14: degrees slower in the table lands. And this elevated slab

2004
01:41:07,173 --> 01:41:11,413
Speaker 14: of fertile farmland and ancient rainforests is just the most

2005
01:41:11,533 --> 01:41:16,213
Speaker 14: extraordinary place for some superb outdoorsy adventures. It's a real

2006
01:41:16,293 --> 01:41:20,133
Speaker 14: high lands escape and they've got like little scatterings of

2007
01:41:20,613 --> 01:41:23,373
Speaker 14: perky country towns. There was this really cool town I

2008
01:41:23,413 --> 01:41:26,653
Speaker 14: went to called Milanda, and it's home to the Big Pub.

2009
01:41:27,213 --> 01:41:31,093
Speaker 14: Very self explanatory. This is a century old pub. It's

2010
01:41:31,133 --> 01:41:35,173
Speaker 14: got the most enormous wrap around Verandah you'll ever see

2011
01:41:35,213 --> 01:41:39,413
Speaker 14: in your life. And it's the biggest wooden hotel in Australia.

2012
01:41:39,693 --> 01:41:43,213
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Okay. So if you're kicking things off and

2013
01:41:43,333 --> 01:41:46,493
Speaker 2: exploring the Athenton tablelands, would Jungerburrow be a good place

2014
01:41:46,533 --> 01:41:46,933
Speaker 2: to start.

2015
01:41:47,893 --> 01:41:51,373
Speaker 14: Yes, definitely. It's like cat and for tourists this place.

2016
01:41:51,493 --> 01:41:55,693
Speaker 14: Jacket's a chocolate box, pretty pint sized town. It's got

2017
01:41:55,733 --> 01:41:59,933
Speaker 14: a really proud village ye restored heritage buildings, another grand

2018
01:42:00,013 --> 01:42:03,133
Speaker 14: old pub, gorgeous gardens. I reckon I would have to

2019
01:42:03,173 --> 01:42:07,933
Speaker 14: be one of Queensland's most immaculately maintained villages. But aside

2020
01:42:07,973 --> 01:42:11,213
Speaker 14: from the esthetics, I've got to mention the platypus. Oh

2021
01:42:11,293 --> 01:42:15,053
Speaker 14: my goodness. Just out of the main street, there's this

2022
01:42:15,333 --> 01:42:19,293
Speaker 14: creek called Patterson Creek and they have the local community

2023
01:42:19,373 --> 01:42:24,093
Speaker 14: have done the most amazing riparian replanting project along this creek,

2024
01:42:24,453 --> 01:42:27,453
Speaker 14: which is in the population boom. So I went down

2025
01:42:27,493 --> 01:42:30,213
Speaker 14: to the creek and within minutes I was a gog

2026
01:42:30,333 --> 01:42:33,493
Speaker 14: watching all of these playful platypus having a bit of

2027
01:42:33,573 --> 01:42:37,613
Speaker 14: a morning swim. And they have the most unusual criticis

2028
01:42:37,733 --> 01:42:42,373
Speaker 14: because they are mammals but they lay eggs how does

2029
01:42:42,453 --> 01:42:47,853
Speaker 14: that work? And their mothers they don't have teats, so

2030
01:42:48,013 --> 01:42:50,693
Speaker 14: the young justice suck on their chests and the milk

2031
01:42:50,813 --> 01:42:52,653
Speaker 14: is excreted. Very unusual.

2032
01:42:52,773 --> 01:42:56,213
Speaker 2: They're so weird. A this is one of those things,

2033
01:42:56,213 --> 01:42:59,333
Speaker 2: you know, Bill Bryson's like it writes a book about everything,

2034
01:42:59,373 --> 01:43:01,773
Speaker 2: and they're always amazing, and you can never quite remember

2035
01:43:01,813 --> 01:43:03,493
Speaker 2: the anecdotes that the shears in the book, and you

2036
01:43:03,533 --> 01:43:05,893
Speaker 2: can only remember about like three quarters of the detail.

2037
01:43:07,453 --> 01:43:10,133
Speaker 2: That's the that's my that's my little warning with this note.

2038
01:43:10,173 --> 01:43:12,333
Speaker 2: But am I right in thinking that when they first

2039
01:43:12,613 --> 01:43:15,973
Speaker 2: tried to return a platypus to to the to the

2040
01:43:16,133 --> 01:43:18,253
Speaker 2: UK and take them back to Britain to show, you know,

2041
01:43:18,853 --> 01:43:22,693
Speaker 2: these are these crazy animals in Australia, that no one

2042
01:43:22,733 --> 01:43:25,333
Speaker 2: would believe that it was real that they like then

2043
01:43:25,373 --> 01:43:27,373
Speaker 2: they looked at a platifu scoles and everyone was like, nah,

2044
01:43:27,413 --> 01:43:28,933
Speaker 2: you've just glued a bit of that and a bit

2045
01:43:29,013 --> 01:43:30,453
Speaker 2: of that and a bit of that together. Like no

2046
01:43:30,533 --> 01:43:32,773
Speaker 2: one believed that it could possibly be a real animal

2047
01:43:32,773 --> 01:43:36,533
Speaker 2: because it's so unusual. Yeah, anyway, they are, as you say,

2048
01:43:36,613 --> 01:43:39,813
Speaker 2: just this, absolutely remarkable. So to other wildlife. Then, is

2049
01:43:39,853 --> 01:43:42,653
Speaker 2: the tablelands a hot spot for birders?

2050
01:43:43,733 --> 01:43:46,173
Speaker 14: Well, the thing about the table lands which the locals

2051
01:43:46,213 --> 01:43:49,533
Speaker 14: are so proud of, they have nearly half of Australia's

2052
01:43:49,573 --> 01:43:54,413
Speaker 14: seven hundred bird species. So yeah, birding nirvana, twitching. It

2053
01:43:54,573 --> 01:43:57,973
Speaker 14: is curiously and divis, you know, Jack, And it's the

2054
01:43:58,213 --> 01:44:02,693
Speaker 14: crazy sounding birds in the table lands that really left

2055
01:44:02,813 --> 01:44:07,493
Speaker 14: me enthralled. So they've got like the spotted bird, and

2056
01:44:07,653 --> 01:44:10,973
Speaker 14: it's very well named because he sounds just like a

2057
01:44:11,093 --> 01:44:17,573
Speaker 14: mating feline, even wackier Victoria's rifle bird. He screeches that

2058
01:44:17,853 --> 01:44:22,293
Speaker 14: distinctive metallic sound of someone joining a zoom call, you know,

2059
01:44:22,413 --> 01:44:26,013
Speaker 14: that sort of sound when someone joined it, So that's

2060
01:44:26,053 --> 01:44:29,053
Speaker 14: exactly how he sounds. And then there are the wildly

2061
01:44:29,173 --> 01:44:32,253
Speaker 14: colorful local heroes like my favorite bird of all on

2062
01:44:32,333 --> 01:44:36,813
Speaker 14: the table ends, the blue faced parrot finch, who should

2063
01:44:36,893 --> 01:44:38,093
Speaker 14: really be in the circuit.

2064
01:44:38,293 --> 01:44:40,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hey, it's not just birds that you can

2065
01:44:40,573 --> 01:44:41,253
Speaker 2: spot in the trees.

2066
01:44:42,373 --> 01:44:45,373
Speaker 14: No, actually, down by Patterson Creek where you see the platypus.

2067
01:44:46,013 --> 01:44:49,853
Speaker 14: It adjoins Marbi Forest and it's this little tract of

2068
01:44:50,013 --> 01:44:52,733
Speaker 14: trees already it's a mini forest, but this is the

2069
01:44:52,813 --> 01:44:56,333
Speaker 14: most amazing spot to look up at the tree dwellers.

2070
01:44:56,653 --> 01:45:00,653
Speaker 14: Of course, they have plenty of Australia's cherist treasures possums

2071
01:45:01,133 --> 01:45:05,533
Speaker 14: in those trees. Then there's the spectacled flying foxes dangling

2072
01:45:05,653 --> 01:45:10,413
Speaker 14: upside down looking at you rather imperiously. But best of

2073
01:45:10,493 --> 01:45:15,973
Speaker 14: all jack tree kangaroos. These guys are adorable. So they've

2074
01:45:15,973 --> 01:45:19,053
Speaker 14: got a light break coat, a big black mask on

2075
01:45:19,213 --> 01:45:23,893
Speaker 14: your face like Batman's mate, and super long tail. So

2076
01:45:24,413 --> 01:45:26,533
Speaker 14: if you want to try and spot a tree kangaroo,

2077
01:45:27,053 --> 01:45:31,813
Speaker 14: big tap, look for a dangling tail in the branches

2078
01:45:32,253 --> 01:45:34,613
Speaker 14: and just keep your fingers crossed. It's not a possible.

2079
01:45:35,373 --> 01:45:35,573
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2080
01:45:36,093 --> 01:45:38,773
Speaker 2: What are the natural attractions are worth checking out?

2081
01:45:39,693 --> 01:45:41,893
Speaker 14: There are so many great sites. There are so many

2082
01:45:42,013 --> 01:45:45,413
Speaker 14: cranking waterfalls, and they've got these beautiful little lakes that

2083
01:45:45,533 --> 01:45:49,293
Speaker 14: are actually volcanic craters and they just brim with all

2084
01:45:49,333 --> 01:45:53,693
Speaker 14: sorts of interesting wildlife like freshwater turtles and water dragons.

2085
01:45:54,133 --> 01:45:57,253
Speaker 14: But it's the rainforest that kept pulling me in again.

2086
01:45:57,373 --> 01:46:00,933
Speaker 14: Deck lots of old specimens in those forests. They've got

2087
01:46:01,013 --> 01:46:05,733
Speaker 14: the Cathedral fig tree, which is this monstrous, truly monstrous.

2088
01:46:07,093 --> 01:46:11,933
Speaker 14: It's crown is as big as two Olympic sized pools

2089
01:46:12,653 --> 01:46:16,893
Speaker 14: fifteen meters above you. This enormous crown, I know. And

2090
01:46:17,053 --> 01:46:19,973
Speaker 14: then they've got the Curson fig tree, which is like

2091
01:46:20,133 --> 01:46:24,893
Speaker 14: a lettuce like screen of vines cascading down to the

2092
01:46:25,013 --> 01:46:28,773
Speaker 14: ground from fifty meters high, so it looks looks like

2093
01:46:28,813 --> 01:46:33,053
Speaker 14: a giant Curson. It's the most excellently named tree. They're

2094
01:46:33,093 --> 01:46:35,173
Speaker 14: both about five hundred years old and they are just

2095
01:46:35,253 --> 01:46:37,573
Speaker 14: the most amazing artworks of nature.

2096
01:46:37,733 --> 01:46:40,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. As so, we's a good place to stay.

2097
01:46:41,573 --> 01:46:44,133
Speaker 14: Well, if you want to crank up the tranquility dial

2098
01:46:44,293 --> 01:46:49,453
Speaker 14: too high, check into Rose Gumps Wilderness Retreat. It's not expensive,

2099
01:46:49,493 --> 01:46:53,053
Speaker 14: but you have got two hundred acres of pure tablelands

2100
01:46:53,173 --> 01:46:56,733
Speaker 14: paradised to call home. They've got a cluster of secluded

2101
01:46:56,773 --> 01:47:01,733
Speaker 14: treehouses scattered about the forest. It's deliriously good forest bathing

2102
01:47:01,853 --> 01:47:05,533
Speaker 14: central because they've got ten kilometers of private walking tracks

2103
01:47:05,613 --> 01:47:08,693
Speaker 14: through the forest. And when I checked him, Dave, the manager,

2104
01:47:08,973 --> 01:47:12,253
Speaker 14: he gave me a walking stick, which I thought suggested

2105
01:47:12,653 --> 01:47:14,893
Speaker 14: I'm met, perhaps I look older than I am, But

2106
01:47:15,213 --> 01:47:18,333
Speaker 14: actually it was because of the cassawieries. And Dave said

2107
01:47:18,373 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 14: to me, use the stick and just tap it a

2108
01:47:21,293 --> 01:47:24,133
Speaker 14: couple of times on the ground if the bird comes

2109
01:47:24,173 --> 01:47:27,213
Speaker 14: too close to you, and that will probably give it

2110
01:47:27,333 --> 01:47:30,253
Speaker 14: the hint. But for God's sake, don't hit them, because

2111
01:47:30,293 --> 01:47:32,653
Speaker 14: you will come up second best, as an American did

2112
01:47:32,733 --> 01:47:33,453
Speaker 14: three weeks ago.

2113
01:47:38,413 --> 01:47:39,093
Speaker 2: Can actually kill you.

2114
01:47:39,133 --> 01:47:40,973
Speaker 5: I think, are they totally?

2115
01:47:41,573 --> 01:47:45,413
Speaker 14: If the Cassawery was a candidate for a football team,

2116
01:47:45,453 --> 01:47:47,973
Speaker 14: you'd want him to be taking the penalty shoots, because,

2117
01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:52,093
Speaker 14: my god, he has got the most breathtaking cac.

2118
01:47:52,333 --> 01:47:56,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're No, they're incredible animals and so dinosaurian,

2119
01:47:57,133 --> 01:47:58,453
Speaker 2: not that that's a word better.

2120
01:47:59,093 --> 01:48:02,533
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure.

2121
01:48:02,573 --> 01:48:04,053
Speaker 14: I was just going to say, Jack, I'm sure there

2122
01:48:04,133 --> 01:48:06,893
Speaker 14: must be some connection between the Cassawary and the Moa.

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Speaker 14: The the moa the kind of look like they should

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Speaker 14: be in the same family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, and they've all got that kind of

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Speaker 2: prehistoric vibe, don't they Thank you so much? Mike really

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. We'll put all of Mike's tips on taking

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Speaker 2: an adventure in the effort and tablelands of North Queensland.

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Speaker 2: Up on the news Talks ZB website. New music from

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Speaker 2: Nellie Fotado for you in a couple of minutes. It's

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Speaker 2: called at a twelve.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you need to

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Speaker 1: us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot nz for high quality supplements News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: This is Nelly Fatado. That song is called coras on.

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Speaker 2: She's just released a new album. The album's called seven

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Speaker 2: and Estale. Clifford has been listening Gylda.

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Speaker 20: Oh Kilda, and I had to look at what it meant.

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Speaker 20: So it means my heart Yeah, my heartbeat keeps going on.

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Speaker 20: And in part of it, I was like she's saying Kyoto.

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Speaker 20: Then I was like it's care or like very similar

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Speaker 20: in language to three or Mardi. And I love that

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Speaker 20: about listening to an album where you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, I think they have I mean, Spanish and Portuguese

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Speaker 2: have the same vowel sounds as much.

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Speaker 12: That's right.

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Speaker 2: It means your mouth shape is the same.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, yeah, real chancel on chorus, super catchy, yes,

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Speaker 20: Colombian inspired beats. When she went for a trip to

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Speaker 20: Colombia featuring an artist there a bomba yestereo and just

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Speaker 20: a really cool co lab for her and like that

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Speaker 20: typical Nelly Fotato stuff where you just can't help but

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Speaker 20: sort of tap your feet along right on the dance floor.

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Speaker 20: Seven is the name of the album. It's her seventh

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Speaker 20: studio album. It's also been seven years since she last

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Speaker 20: released an album, and Idea say it's turning into her

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Speaker 20: lucky number because apparently every time she'd doubt herself, something

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Speaker 20: would appear in sevens. You know when you do that

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Speaker 20: weird thing and you suddenly everywhere, type of cars everywhere.

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Speaker 20: Yea yeah, but like that for her, apparently this album

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Speaker 20: was inspired, like it reinspired her passion because she started

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Speaker 20: going out again and then going to clubs and stuff

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Speaker 20: and hearing all these new DJs remix some of her

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Speaker 20: old stuff for a new audience, and she's like, Okay,

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Speaker 20: I think I can do more of this, but some

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Speaker 20: new now.

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Speaker 15: Imagine going out and hearing your own music anyway.

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Speaker 20: I love that his I love that it reinspired her.

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Speaker 20: And so this whole album for her is this journey

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Speaker 20: in refinding her creative passion and bringing that to us

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Speaker 20: she's calling it a collection of songs as opposed to

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Speaker 20: like having a set theme or telling a story or

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Speaker 20: journey of anything in particular. Just more that she suddenly

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Speaker 20: got inspired to smash out hundreds and hundreds of songs

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Speaker 20: and these are the ones that really stuck, and I

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Speaker 20: think some of the collaborations probably helps that. So she

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Speaker 20: wants us to look at it like a designer collection

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Speaker 20: where this is her season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I know, Artie.

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Speaker 20: I also wanted to give us some outlets for just

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Speaker 20: tripping out and releasing, and there's plenty of that in here,

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Speaker 20: so she really has I'm like, yep, she's obviously definitely

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Speaker 20: gone back to the dance floor because a lot of

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Speaker 20: the songs had that real high energy, high beat, cool stuff.

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Speaker 20: I just I think that's kind of a way with

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Speaker 20: Nellie for title, Like there's standout songs where you're like,

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Speaker 20: that's definitely her, and there's some on this album where

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Speaker 20: you're like, oh, I have to listen to it a

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Speaker 20: bit more. It's kind of cool, like she's reimasing what

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Speaker 20: she does. But I think that's also the process of

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Speaker 20: collaboration with people you're working with. There's a great song

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Speaker 20: here called love bites similar to Corason and their upbeat,

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Speaker 20: catchy sing a long kind of chorus style, and she's

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Speaker 20: featuring Toblo and that really good collaboration. She actually starts

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Speaker 20: her voice is quite Billie Eilish, is that quiet kind

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Speaker 20: of like whispery?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which was I was like, oh.

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Speaker 20: Cool, that's kind of really playful and something different. You

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Speaker 20: don't always hear Nelli Fotado do. So I feel like

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Speaker 20: each song she has embraced like a different sort of

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Speaker 20: vocal technique and then it breaks into that Nelly Fortado

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Speaker 20: sort of sing along stuff and you kind of know, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 12: She's met some some ballads as well.

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Speaker 20: They sort of come later in the album, real underplayed

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Speaker 20: vocal delivery sometimes and then again it's just the melodies

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Speaker 20: for her that I think always hit a really good spot.

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Speaker 20: It's been interesting to see fan reaction to this album

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Speaker 20: because everyone's finding their particular song, Like some are really going, oh,

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Speaker 20: it's a breakup album and look, she has been through

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Speaker 20: some stuff. Yeah, But I think that's the great thing

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Speaker 20: about music. Once you release it, people find the one.

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Speaker 2: That really sits in connects with them.

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Speaker 20: He's even a touch of yodling like through the album

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Speaker 20: take Me Down, I know, I was like, well take

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Speaker 20: me right, yeah, yeah, I never never expected anything like that.

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Speaker 20: I think it's an album that's best played loud as

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Speaker 20: probably like a getting ready to go out kind of album.

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Speaker 20: I don't know if I do so much of that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Some house clean yeah.

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Speaker 20: Gets the heart rate up, which I think is quite beautiful.

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Speaker 20: Her voices, I mean, I don't feel like her voices aged. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: And I think she's sticking with what she's really good at,

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Speaker 20: but just giving us some real international kind of beats

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Speaker 20: to go along with that, with what she puts into

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Speaker 20: her songs and the production of it, which I really like.

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Speaker 20: Like she's one of those artists that can just come

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Speaker 20: back and you go, oh right. I wouldn't necessarily have

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Speaker 20: said it's being seven years. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 20: any of those songs that really have hit me just yet,

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Speaker 20: like some of her real big radio plays from the

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Speaker 20: early two thousands, But I think they are definitely songs

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Speaker 20: that you'll enjoy when you put them on. And I

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Speaker 20: think that's nice about an album, right and go yeah,

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Speaker 20: this is this is cool and again play loud. Excellent

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Speaker 20: Cittains and Windows open. Let the neighborhood know that you're

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Speaker 20: embracing Nellie again.

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Speaker 2: And what did you give it?

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Speaker 20: It's eight out of ten.

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Speaker 2: For eight out of ten for seven by Nellie Fatato.

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Speaker 2: Very good, Nice Hey, thank you, Estelle. Looking forward to

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Speaker 2: having a bit of a listen. Don't mind a bit

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Speaker 2: of Nellie Fatada from time to time, So we will

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Speaker 2: play you another one of her tracks off her new

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Speaker 2: album in a couple of minutes on Newstalks dB right

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Speaker 2: now it is eight minutes to twelve.

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Speaker 2: for doing the tough stuff this morning. We're gonna leave

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Speaker 2: you with Nellie Fortado. Her new album is seven. This

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Speaker 2: song is ready for Myself. See you next week.

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