1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Fits official Liam Lawson has been dropped by Red Bull. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It was announced overnight that Yuki Sonoda will replace him 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: as Max for Stefan's teammates, but Liam will still be 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: racing in the Racing Ball Team. Our team boss Christian 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Horne says, this is a purely sporting decision and there's 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: a duty of care to protect and develop Lawson. FORMU 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: one editor and journalist at plentatif one dot com is 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Thomas Ma who joins you now, good morning to you, Thomas, Oh. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Good morning. How are you no? Thanks for having me on. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'm in New Zealand and obviously I'm outraged at 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: this decision. And I get the feeling that Red bulls 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: running around like chickens without a head. 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: It is a little bit of a chaotic situation. I 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: think that's developed over the last couple of weeks. From 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: speaking to sources on both sides of the story over 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours, the feeling very much is 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: that it was just a little bit too much too 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: soon for Lim in appointing him at Red Bull, and 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: that's the safest thing to do to protect Lim and 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: to look after basically his future, his mentality, his mindset, 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: his competitiveness for the future is to drop him back 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: into the Racing Bull seat and give the Red Bull 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: seat to someone a little bit more experienced. On that 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: man then is Yuki Sonoda. Lim obviously struggled a little 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: bit for performance over the two opening weekends of the 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Championship in Australia and China, and it 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: was a little bit panic stations, I think at Red 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Bull because there was nothing to suggest that that Lim 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: was going to be able to turn it around in 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: the short term. So for those reasons, as I said, 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: the decision has been taken to protect Lim and from 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: speaking to two members of Lawson's camp, the feeling in 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: the camp is that this is the right move, that 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: they're welcoming the decision and the possibility of, you know, 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: protecting Lawson's future and his mindset for the future. 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: It's a big risk guy by Christian Juna because of course, 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: if Liam gets into the racing Bulka races at Suzuka 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: Trekking nows very very well and then blitzes Yuki, then 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: finally the blame will come back not on the driver 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: but on the. 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Car very much so. And Lim has been open about 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: the fact that the Red Bull Lub twenty one has 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: been a very difficult car for him to drive. And 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: I think what we've seen over the last couple of 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: years is that, you know, the car alongside Max Verstappen 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: has traditionally struggled for competitiveness, and Lim is no different 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: in that regard. He's jumped in the car, he has 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: struggled to adjust immediately. Some of that seems to be 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: on his side, some of it seems to be on 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: the car side. And I think we're going to get 51 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: answered very quickly on this because Yuki Sinoda is a 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: known quantity. Granted he hasn't got the experience with this 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: exact car, but Yuki is an established member of the 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: upper midfield. So if he suddenly jumps into the car 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: and qualifies, you know, eighteen twenties, as we've seen with Lim, 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: it seems it would seem to be pretty definitive that 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: the car is the bigger issue and not so much 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: the driver. But if Yuki you know, jumps in the 59 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: car and all of a sudden it is making it 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: into Q three and does pretty well, then that suggests 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: it is more driver. So it is going to be 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: very interesting to see what happens at Suzuka, because I 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: don't think there's anywhere to hide for either Red Bull 64 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: or you gets to know that at this point. 65 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Thomas matra I, thank you so much for 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: your time journalistic Planet if one dot com. 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