1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: We're going out to Kelly Echold, who is with us 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: from Westpac, the chief economist there. Kelly, good morning. It 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: is OCR day today. We're expecting it to be held 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: at five and a half percent. But what are we 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: looking for in terms of language from the Reserve Bank today? 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Well, today we think the Reserve Bank's going to keep 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: it pretty tight here. They advocated back in May that 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: they thought interestrates you have to remain restrictive for a 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: protracted period to get inflation down. So not very much 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: has changed them, I suspect, So I think it's going 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: to be pretty short and sweet. Perhaps some hint that 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: the economy has turned down a little bit based off 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: some of the indicators have seen since May. 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: And banks like ASB are predicting that there'll be a 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: cut in November. West Pac saying, now you still think 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: early next year? Is that still your view? Could that 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: change today? 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: I don't think it all changed today and it is 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: still view. The challenge thing for the Reserve Bank is 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: that they really need to see some runs on board 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: here with respect to getting that inflation rate down within 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: their target range. Clation's running at four percent, it's twice 23 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: the target and whilst we're all hoping that there'll be 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: some interest rate relief sometime soon. The reality is that 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: inflation way girl by itself. It's it's going to require 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: that period of tight conditions, flat economic activity so that 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: we can actually get to where things have been forecasted. 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: What about this issue of non tradable inflation that keeps 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: wearing its head that actually the reserve banks blunt tool 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: isn't working for for things like you know, council rate increases, 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: et cetera. 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it takes a bit of time I think 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: for some of these things to happen. I mean the 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: particular issues. I guess that the council rates and also 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: the insurance charges as well. You know, the typical lags 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: on those things are a little bit longer, and that's 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: why we've been sitting here with these interest rates for 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: a relatively long period of time compared to previous cycles. 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: But the fact that the economy has responded to interest 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: rates gives you confidence that is going to have an impact. 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: But it's just going to take time. And it's that 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: message of the time required to have to keep interest 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: rates at this level is the key message that the 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank has really been telling. 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Us all right, so we've looked for the language today, 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: but it will be around the edge. Is Kelly e 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: called the Westpac chief economists with us this morning. That 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: decision by the way drought at two pm. For more 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: from News Talks B listen live on air or online, 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and keep our shows with you wherever you go with 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: our podcast on iHeartRadio.