1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. Eric the Stenton will be so 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: proud of me. Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent with US. Dan, 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: welcome back. It's wonderful to have you back with us. 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Good to be back with you too. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've missed out on a lot of good stuff 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: going on in US politics. So talk to me about 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: the American boots on the ground in Ukraine. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: Well, Trump says he doesn't want boots on the ground, 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: but he might be willing to do some air support. 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: And apparently they've got the plans for this bilateral meeting 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: between Putin and Zelenski. But what I find interesting about this, Heather, 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: is President Trump says he thinks it would be better 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: if the meeting happened without him, And he said he 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: just wants to see what goes on. So from my 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: point of view, that means that he doesn't think anything 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: is going to come out of that and he wants 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: to stay as far away from it, saying, hey, I 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: did my part. We got these two together. It's Veelensky 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: and Putin that can't you come together for an agreement? 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Yes, But the thing is Zelensky and Potent and going 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: to meet like Poten is not going to meet Zelenski 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: unless there is an actual, credible agreement on the table 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: that may well be signed. So why doesn't Trump want 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: to be there? 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Then that's that's the question. I mean. But you know, 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: the same thing could be said going into the last 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: meeting that Trump had with Putin. Did anybody really really 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: think that anything was going to come out of that? No? 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, And if you did, you were a fool. 31 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: Nothing came out of that. You know, they shook some hands, 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: they got some FaceTime on television, and there's a little 33 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: bit of hope down the road. But that's what this 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: whole thing has been about. 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Pump the brakes on this, ok, because you are not 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: the only person saying this, I mean you are, you 37 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: are basically everybody, every analyst in the world are saying this. 38 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Who thought that when Potent and Trump sat down that 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: there was going to be a deal? That's just ridiculous, 40 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: isn't it. 41 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Well? I think so too. But you looked at the 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: media leading up to this. 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: And it was like no, But Dan, Dan, jeez, you've 44 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: you've come in and you're like, Wow, I didn't miss 45 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: this at all because now I'm being attacked, But not 46 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: because nothing, not because I didn't think there was going 47 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: to be a deal, but because this is not how 48 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: it works. You don't sit down and get one deal 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: like there a series of meetings, multiple meetings over weeks 50 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: before you get a deal. So anyone thinking there was 51 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: going to be a deal in Alaska was an idiot. 52 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: And anyone thinking there was going to be a deal 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: out of the White House meeting was an idiot. If 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: there is a deal, it takes a long time, doesn't it. 55 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 1: So why don't we all just settle down and see 56 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: how it goes? 57 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: I well said, because when the commentators are going, wow, 58 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 2: they're going into the third hour of this meeting, there's 59 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: something that's definitely going to be coming out of the word. No, 60 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: nothing's going to come out of a three hour meeting. 61 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Like you said, these things lead weeks and months to 62 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: get a deal like this. 63 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Well, Dan, I'm glad you're back because you and I 64 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: are seeing eye to eye on this. Now, tell me 65 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: why the adults are buying the kids meals? Is it 66 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: a cost a living thing? 67 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's a little bit of a cost of living thing, 68 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: but and they're finding that these orders are up by 69 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: thirty percent in the last few years, even with all 70 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: the restaurant traffic down because the fast food restaurants here 71 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: have taken a hit because of the economy. But a 72 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: lot of it also has to do and I find 73 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: this kind of interesting with changing eating habits. A lot 74 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: of that has to do with those appetite suppressing medications 75 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: that are going out there. So they're saying that, you know, 76 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: and it's one way to save money at a fast 77 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: food place. You can get a kid's meal for four 78 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: to six bucks. Sit down restaurant maybe six to nine, 79 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: maybe ten twelve dollars. So people are just sort of 80 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: looking at at you know, trying to lose it a 81 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: little bit of weight. They're saying, we don't want to 82 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: be completely full. We want something that we can get 83 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: that's relatively cost efficient. 84 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: This is I'm taking some hot from this because you know, 85 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: and to be frank, your kid sized meals are probably 86 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the same size as our adult sized meals in New Zealand, 87 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: so it's a good thing. Now, have you got your 88 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: tight tight. 89 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: Cassipt I don't, but I do have a couple of 90 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: cassette players lying around here. In fact, my son a 91 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: few years ago thought it was the coolest thing in 92 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: the world to have one of those things that you 93 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: could just have strapped to your belt and he could 94 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: listen to one cassette at a time. But apparently Taylor 95 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: Swift is going to be releasing her Life of a 96 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: show Girl in October on vinyl and streaming and a 97 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: cassette tape. Now, I don't know about you. I don't 98 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: know the last time I bought a casset tape. I mean, 99 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I've got him in the garage somewhere. But there's been 100 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: attempts to revive these things. I guess we have about 101 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: a half million cassettes that were sold in the last 102 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: year here in the US, which is nowhere near the 103 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: four hundred and forty four hundred and fifty in the eighties. 104 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: But the interesting thing, real quick, why there's a sort 105 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: of little resurgence here is music experts are saying that 106 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: tapes provide a different type of listening experience. You know, 107 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: it's not perfect, but you can flip it over, look 108 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: at the art, listen all the way through. And they 109 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: say that's another way to connect. I say, that's an 110 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: idiot observation because those things were the most I mean 111 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: you remember how many times it is the tape would 112 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: come out of your and you had to use a 113 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: pencil to try to stream it back in. 114 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then go. 115 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: Yep, I wouldn't do that. 116 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: I said, no, bug of that. I don't know why 117 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: the kidscerns this nonsense. Thank you, Dan, Dan Mintion some 118 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: UIs correspondent. I just love that retro nostalgia makes you 119 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: lose your mind. Dy here that all of you US 120 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: correspondents are like Barry negative towards Trump despite the positive 121 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: things he's done. Do you know what everybody? I just 122 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,239 Speaker 1: feel like everybody in the world is itching to say 123 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Trump's an idiot, he was wrong. I just feel just 124 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: he may well be. It's entirely possible that his way 125 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: of banging heads diplomacy doesn't work. But can we just 126 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: see if it works before we say it hasn't worked? 127 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: Just tie her on that. For more from Heather Duplessy 128 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: Allen Drive. Listen live to news Talks. 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