1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Right, Darcy has forgotten his headphones. Here he is with me. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: No, no, no, have forgotten my headphones. This should be 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: provided as a workplace necessity. I'm blaming somebody else and 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: here comes you. I have just watched my headphones on. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: I've never experienced that twenty five years of my. 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: This is a lovely producer and has been reduced to 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: coming in plugging the headphones in for Darcy and then putting. 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Them on his head whilst I was grossing. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: While he rants rants at us and it's you chocolate fish 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: for you later. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: On Spectacular shoal. 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: Anyway, so tell me listen, I think that we've ended 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: up in the right place with the Sport New Zealand 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: transgender guidelines. What do you think. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: Yes, people might go surprise because they're now almost work 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: as the next guy to me, to me, this is 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: this is great. This is no overreach from the government. 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: There's the government saying you make your own minds up. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: We're not going to do it anymore. It's one of 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: our business, really and it isn't so good on them 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: for doing that. And I think taking off of the 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: website some of their guidelines is probably not great because 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: I think their guidelines were a good idea, they weren't 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: mandated guidelines. Let's consider this. Consider that when you make 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: your decisions, you know that you know that that's what 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: the guidelines are. 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: The guidelines. The guidelines were a very strong indication to 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: sport that they needed to include transgender athletes. And if 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: you don't believe me, go and read Railing Carlos Castle's 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: comments around it when she released them. It was very 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: clearly designed to be inclusive. 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: But it wasn't rubber stamp you have to follow these guidelines. 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: Take them out then, Well, but couldn't they just say 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: these are still guidelines. Have a read. It might be helpful. 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: Isn't a situation here with transgender so difficult? 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: It much information you need, Like this is the thing 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: you don't need to publish for people on your special 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: website how to do something. It's already out there. You 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: just ask chat GPT. 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're a student. Complaints I get from 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: mid one about chat to go down. I'll tell you 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: they're all doing it. I think it's a good thing, though, 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: that the government's going to fly and in each different 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: organization can work out what they want to do. Mike 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: Kester is going to join us on the show this evening. 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: He's the boss of participation at a community level for 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Planning. It's big for them. What does 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: this say about what they're doing? How does this affect them? 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: What have they put in place? What have they learned 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: in this time? And I know I've along with ants 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: the most majestic producer in the world. He puts people's 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: headphones on. Have both been He's actually yeah. 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: She declined. 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: I was just about to say, we're both trying, but 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: like you're you're the boss, so I rang up and 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: the morning bro, are you chasing ray Lean? Yeah? Declined, 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: But never mind, what was the line? We've said everything 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: we want to say in our statement. Is nothing else 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: to say, So Lista's yeah, wow, who knows. I'm not 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: as all upset by that. Leave it to the sports 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: to make the decision at that community level. On the 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: other the big thing on this is I don't want 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: to sound uncaring or unloving, because I'm not, but the 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: percentage of athletes that actually directly affects is so small, 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: and the ferrari around it is so big. It's correct 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: really completely out of balance. It's like it's over. 67 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Expressed and has the risk to get so ugly. So 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's been dealt with by grown ups in 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: a grown up way. Darcy, thank you, looking forward to 70 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: your show this evening. That's Darcy Watergrave Sports Talk Hoasty, 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: We're back seven o'clock this evening on News Talks. 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: Z'd be yeah, come and take my headphones off. 73 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: The Darcy's headphone entitlement sounds like the kind of behavior 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: one would expect from Adrian or. 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm being compared to somebody important. 76 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Then for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.