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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, six after four coming up Miles Hurell on

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Speaker 2: for you after six Bryan Bridge, So the Teachers' Union's

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Speaker 2: warning about a rising tide of extremism in our schools,

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Speaker 2: read the story. What's the actual problem? That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out today. Apparently some kids say the

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Speaker 2: Trump Boys, I like a majority of Americans. Presumably a

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Speaker 2: few kids here support the Republican Party or the Mega Movement.

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Speaker 2: The other problem apparently some schoolgirls say they want to

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Speaker 2: be tread wives, which means traditional wives. I have children,

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Speaker 2: stay at home and raise them. Now that's about as

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Speaker 2: much detail as I could glean from this particular story

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Speaker 2: that was in the news today and is doing the

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Speaker 2: rounds on social media, and the moral of the story

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Speaker 2: was from the unions. The government needs to take action

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Speaker 2: on this. Here's the problem. Children are allowed to have

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Speaker 2: political views, they're allowed to have societal views. Teachers are

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Speaker 2: not there to police politics. Your job is apolitical, and

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Speaker 2: we need to encourage critical thinking, not legislate against it.

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Speaker 2: There will be people who read that story and think,

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Speaker 2: here we go again with the brainwashing thing. You know,

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Speaker 2: your job is education, not indoctrination. The reality is not

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Speaker 2: all girls will go on to be the Reserve Bank governor,

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Speaker 2: nor will all boys. Not all boys will grow up

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Speaker 2: to marry women. Hello, everyone's different, is my point. But

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Speaker 2: you can't embrace kids changing genders and then demand state

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Speaker 2: intervention when a girl's so she wants to get married

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Speaker 2: and have kids. I'm no conservative, far from it, but

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Speaker 2: I do hear from a lot of parents who kind

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Speaker 2: of feel like they've lost faith in the education system,

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Speaker 2: or at least some teachers within it. If a girl

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Speaker 2: wants to grow up to be a mum, is that

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Speaker 2: radical or is that choice? If a kid wants to

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Speaker 2: support Donald Trump, is that radical? Or is that choice?

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Speaker 2: Should they be branded an extremist for holding those views

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Speaker 2: or should those views be used as a springboard for

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Speaker 2: a healthy debate about society. Could this not be an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to introduce and encourage some critical thinking in our

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Nine after four two The number text few of us

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Speaker 2: can afford to purchase the healthy food that we need

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Speaker 2: at the supermarket. Data from the Ministry of Social Development

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Speaker 2: shows that nearly half of us are cutting back on

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Speaker 2: our food and veggie intake at the supermarket. Why you guessed?

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Speaker 2: At cost a Living the number has doubled since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Michael Vander's Sorry Van der Elson is host to Eat

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Speaker 2: Well for Less and joins me this afternoon. Michael get

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Speaker 2: a after Ryan, You're right, yep, very well, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Is it how hard is it to afford healthy fruit

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Speaker 2: and veggies?

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Speaker 4: Well, I hasn't to not ask that question. I asked

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Speaker 4: the question of if we're not buying fruit and veggies,

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Speaker 4: what are we buying to fill our bellies? Are we

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Speaker 4: just going without? Or are we going to the likes

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately the numbers speak for themselves on that, don't they?

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Speaker 4: So what do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's the latter. So is the supermarket. Where

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Speaker 2: do you get your your groceries from, you know, your

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Speaker 2: fruit and vegil is it supermarkets or do you go

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Speaker 4: Well, we grow We grow it all here on our farm.

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Speaker 4: But I was leading up to this, I was doing

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Speaker 4: having a look at some supermarkets and you know, pruptly

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Speaker 4: is two dollars fifty ahead, carrots are two dollars thirty, potatoes.

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Speaker 3: Are three dollars twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: Half a cabbage is four dollars fifty. I don't see

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Speaker 4: on there at fourteen dollars, maybe we won't go down

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Speaker 4: six months to a year. Are we cutting back on

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Speaker 4: the amount of butter that we're using and we're cutting

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Speaker 4: we probably are. But when it comes to fruit and

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Speaker 4: veg I don't see a massive spike in prices, maybe

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Speaker 4: pineapples and the watermelons and the plums and.

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Speaker 3: Things that we shouldn't be eating at this time of

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Speaker 4: But look at potatoes, look at our basics, our basic

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Speaker 4: fruit and vegetables that will pull us up. You know,

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Speaker 4: bananas at three dollars sixty nine a kilo. Has that

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Speaker 4: in price? I don't think so. So where where is

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Speaker 4: this data coming from that they are saying that it's

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Speaker 4: all gone up so much? Because I don't see it

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Speaker 3: I just don't.

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Speaker 2: Is there a problem with doing frozen veggies? Are they

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Speaker 2: literal nutritious?

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Speaker 3: Not at all, Bobby?

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Speaker 4: If not more, because they are snap frozen right there

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Speaker 4: when they're collected. A kenle of frozen vegetables and a

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Speaker 4: Commune three dollars sixty nine for a kilo of frozen vegetables.

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Speaker 4: The beauty about frozen vegetables.

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Speaker 3: Is you use what you need.

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Speaker 4: What you don't need remains in the freezer. They stay

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Speaker 4: good for six months. Once it's gone, you go out

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Speaker 4: and you buy some more and it stays in your freezer.

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Speaker 4: Frozen mixed berry's ten dollars for a kilo bag. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you're having you smoothie in the morning and you're

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Speaker 4: having to go without because mangoes are six dollars fifty,

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Speaker 4: just buy the frozen ones. They're just as good. They're

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Speaker 4: just as tasty. And when they go into a smoothie,

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Speaker 4: who knows if the fresh or frozen, they're probably better frozen.

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Speaker 4: So I think when people say fruit and vegetables are

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Speaker 4: to kind of just step back and go what are

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Speaker 4: we buying? Are we buying strawberries in winter? Are we

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Speaker 4: buying plums in winter? Are we buying stuff out of season?

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Speaker 4: Because from what I see when I go past the

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Speaker 4: fruit and bed shop and they've got the big black

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Speaker 4: two heads a cauliflower for a dollar fifty, I buy them.

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Speaker 4: You just need to use your nut a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You need to think about what you're buying and the

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Speaker 4: time that you're buying it, and sometimes we may not

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Speaker 2: Michael, appreciate your time. Michael Van der Elson, who's host

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Speaker 2: of eat Well for Less fourteen after four Bright and

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Speaker 2: bread Brech. Wow, how's that for a strong opinion to

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Speaker 2: start the program? How do we feel about that? Do

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Speaker 2: you do you agree? I mean, he's got a farm,

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Speaker 2: so I'm sure some of you who shop weekly will

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Speaker 2: be saying thinking otherwise. I mean, you look at the

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Speaker 2: numbers from stats and they have gone up. But as

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Speaker 2: he said, it's seasonal stuff. You know, you can peck

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Speaker 2: and choose and not everything has gone up astronomically, has it?

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Speaker 2: So what do you do at your house? Nine two

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Speaker 2: Zebby News Talks B. We're talking The cost of fruit

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Speaker 2: and vegie is seventeen after four Hallelujah says And is

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Speaker 2: someone speaking the truth on the great pricing of fruit

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Speaker 2: and vegie right now? PAMs says another one kg frozen

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Speaker 2: mixed veggies wide range at around four to four dollars

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Speaker 2: fifty great value in the off season. Ryan, how do

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Speaker 2: people afford fast food. I went to McDonald's for the

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Speaker 2: second time this year, thirty six dollars for two people.

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Speaker 2: It's far cheaper to buy vegetables and seasons, says Grant. Grant.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point. So are we all lazy? Is

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Speaker 2: that what it is? We actually can't be bothered buying them,

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Speaker 2: dragging them home from the supermarket, putting them on our

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Speaker 2: chopping boards and chopping them up and making something healthy.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen minutes after four sport.

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Speaker 1: With a tab app download and get your bed on

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Speaker 1: r eighteen bit responsibly.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what's wrong with the all blacks haven't been

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Speaker 2: eaten their meeting three beage.

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Speaker 5: I think the same thing, Ryan, How do people afford

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Speaker 5: fast It's.

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Speaker 2: Not cheap, very expensive.

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Speaker 6: You pay a lot for fillers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had the team naming today, so Sarvia is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got the cabins your role because Scooter Barrett

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Speaker 5: is Bundon's shoulder, so he's not going to be there.

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Speaker 5: So a bit a bit of a re drig rejig

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Speaker 5: around the loose forwards and the locks. We've had some

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Speaker 5: change in the fact that Cody Taylor has come back

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Speaker 5: as hooker from his concussion, which is awesome because he's

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Speaker 5: the best in the tray. Great to have him there.

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Speaker 5: We've got Caleb Clark coming in on the left wing.

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Speaker 5: Good under the high ball. He's playing at home and

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Speaker 5: he's absolutely pumped to get back in the side again

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Speaker 5: and a superstar winger from two weeks ago. Well he

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Speaker 5: was probably the best on the part. We're all blacks.

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Speaker 5: Leroy Carter has found himself on the right wing at fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Paddy two oh, cameray goat at number nine.

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Speaker 2: This is going to make a huge difference.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Peter likel has come in as loose Ford cover,

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Speaker 5: so no duplicity carriffee which is interesting. Patrick to he

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Speaker 5: blocked the ie. Paddy two ups themselves back on the

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Speaker 5: many changes. They could have swung the axe a little

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Speaker 5: further of them. Glad they didn't consistency. A lot of

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Speaker 5: these guys can lick their wounds from two weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: I mean they dug this hole it right, so.

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Speaker 2: You know, plus it's again they dig out of a

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Speaker 2: hole on them, that'll be the sixteenth man on the field.

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Speaker 5: Is it any to dig your way out of a hole.

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Speaker 2: No you can't, No, you would dig further.

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Speaker 5: Can you have half a hole?

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Speaker 2: These are very fascinating questions, quite introspective questions. But we

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Speaker 2: need to get to the wallabies. What are they doing?

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Speaker 5: What are the Wallabies doing? Doesn't matter, they're going to

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Speaker 5: get blown off.

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Speaker 2: The park, all right, Well, come on.

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Speaker 5: They're they're paying four dollars eighty to win R eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Bet responsibly. This is what we call insurance betting. They're

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Speaker 5: all blacks paying a dollar seventeen. Right, they should win.

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Speaker 5: They're overwhelming favorites to win dispatch, they'll be dark one

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Speaker 5: after I forget about that. We're just doing we're right

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Speaker 5: here right now. So the Wallabies are paying for four

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Speaker 5: dollars eighty, So you take a tenor don't beat more

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Speaker 5: than you can afford to lose, and you stick it

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Speaker 5: on the Wallabies and that's lost insurance. So if they do,

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Speaker 5: by some strange strange occurrence actually win, you walk off

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Speaker 5: with fifty bucks. So you're okay with the all Blacks

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Speaker 5: from losing au R. That's the idea. Anyhow, A Ryan

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Speaker 1: Talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on hither dupiusy Ellen

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand had a power of satellite mobile.

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Speaker 2: Please don't try five away from five News Talks VB.

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Speaker 2: Zelenski has pledged with the UN to help stop Russia.

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Speaker 6: We must use averaging.

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Speaker 2: We have together to force their grasser to stop.

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Speaker 2: He's in the US and staying there. A detainee has died,

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Speaker 2: Jim's me, finally, how much would you pay for your

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 9: Get I'll tell you what. My children are seven and four.

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Speaker 10: But we've got to do something, Ryan, This is now

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Speaker 10: Really, you still might do it. I'm thinking about just

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Speaker 10: But this is, yes, a new bite proof wetsuit. It's

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Speaker 9: So we might see you in the surf Hea at

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Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, OLLI thank you, Olli Peedterson six PR PERS

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Advice I had for swimming in Australia is just don't

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Speaker 12: Want to lose.

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Speaker 2: And you can imagine how deep you would you know,

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Speaker 2: a Barley Hospitals had to have a press com diference.

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Speaker 2: Today there's allegations they were involved in an organ theft.

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Speaker 2: They are denying it. So the body, this poor young

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Speaker 2: twenty three year old Australian on holiday there dies in

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Speaker 2: a plunge pul while he's on holiday, and the body

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Speaker 2: is taken to a hospital for examination. The body is

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Speaker 2: returned to the family in Australia four weeks later, and

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Speaker 2: the family does a secondary autopsy and the heart is missing.

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Speaker 2: This young guy's heart is missing, and so there's wild

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Speaker 2: rumors about organ theft or the Balinese doctors or hospital

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Speaker 2: or somewhere in the transit has taken it or I mean,

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Speaker 2: and what would you do with it at that point?

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Speaker 2: You know? Anyway, hospital does a presser denying it. Two

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Speaker 2: months after the body was returned repatriated. The heart was

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Speaker 2: sent separately, they say, and this is because they needed

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Speaker 2: to examine it more thoroughly, and that was repatriated. So

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Speaker 2: everything's fine. Family's lawyered up. Obviously, they're grieving and they're

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Speaker 2: not happy. It continues eighteen away from five News Talk SEBB.

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Speaker 1: Politics was centric credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, how with us at sixteen to five Zaria, good afternoon,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. So we got a parliamentary watchdog now investigating

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Speaker 2: col Bates. This is the Ponganui MP over the rentals.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so Parliament is investigating national MP Calbates, as you say,

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Speaker 13: over whether or not he complied with requirements to declare investments.

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Speaker 13: So cal Bates listed properties he owned and also trust

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Speaker 13: he was a beneficiary of, and through those trusts, the

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Speaker 13: MP four Wanganui was linked to twenty five homes, most

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Speaker 13: of which rental properties in the local area. So trust

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Speaker 13: link to the MP and his family owned twenty five

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Speaker 13: properties which are not disclosed on Parliament's list of MP's

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Speaker 13: property and financial interests. And that was first reported two

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Speaker 13: weeks ago. Well at the time the story broke, Bates

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Speaker 13: told The Herald that when he moved into politics, he

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Speaker 13: left his business to focus on being an MP. He

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Speaker 13: which included selling businesses and moving away from involvement in

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Speaker 13: the family property portfolio. And he said, quote as a

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Speaker 13: discretionary beneficiary of a family trust which has an interest

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Speaker 13: in a property portfolio. I have no involvement in it

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Speaker 13: or its interests, as is common for family trusts. And

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Speaker 13: he's also said at the time that he met with

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Speaker 13: the Registrar of Pecuniary Interests in advance of filing his

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Speaker 13: return to make sure that he would be declaring everything

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Speaker 13: that was required of him. Since that story has broke, however,

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Speaker 13: Labor MP Glen Bennett wrote to the Registrar asking them

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Speaker 13: to determine whether an inquiry was warranted, and that answer

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Speaker 13: is yes. The Registrar has determined that an inquiry is

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Speaker 13: warranted and will be undertaken. I mean this comes after

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Speaker 13: a preliminary review from the Registrar which took into account

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Speaker 13: the degree of importance and whether or not it could

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Speaker 13: be seen as a breach of the obligations. At the

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Speaker 13: time the story first came out, Bates said that the

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Speaker 13: regis Stra had actually advised him that property held in

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Speaker 13: a company whose shares are held by a trust was

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Speaker 13: in fact not required to be declared. Also, looking at

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Speaker 13: the standing orders, the Registrar must invite the member who's

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Speaker 13: subject of the inquiry to respond within ten working days.

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Speaker 13: Standing orders, though, also do mean that Cayle Bates is

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Speaker 13: unable to comment on this inquiry to the media.

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Speaker 2: Do you know does anyone know yet? Because he said

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Speaker 2: he met with the registrar to fill out and find

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Speaker 2: out what he needed to declare. Did he tell them

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Speaker 2: at that point that he had this interest in the

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Speaker 2: twenty five rental properties? Do we know that fact?

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Speaker 13: I don't think we know for a fact, but I

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Speaker 13: mean it is worth noting that at the time cal

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Speaker 13: Bates said, the registrar advised him the property held in

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Speaker 13: a company who shares a held by a trust was

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Speaker 13: not required to be declared. So it's not one hundred

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Speaker 13: percent clear in terms of that situation.

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Speaker 2: That would seem to imply he did. But anyway, we

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Speaker 2: will move on to the electoral law changes as the

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Speaker 2: four year term. I got submissions being heard. What are

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Speaker 2: they saying?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, So in terms of this bill, we'll just go

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Speaker 13: into what those changes are. Enrollment were close thirteen days

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Speaker 13: before election day, twelve days of advanced voting, the prisoner

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Speaker 13: voting ban set to come back, and a new offense

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Speaker 13: as well for prohibiting free food, drink, or entertainment within

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Speaker 13: one hundred meters of a polling place. So Chief Human

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Speaker 13: Rights Commissioner Stephen Rainbow, who was actually appointed by the

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Speaker 13: Justice Minister who's in charge of this bill. Paul Goldsmith

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Speaker 13: told the Justice Select Committee the agency opposes both the

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Speaker 13: end to same day enrollment and the ban on prisoner voting,

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Speaker 13: so he suggested that the changes around same day enrollment

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Speaker 13: would make it more difficult for younger voters.

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Speaker 14: The changes that are proposed reverse a long term trend

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Speaker 14: of making it more easy for people to vote.

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Speaker 13: And he's also saying there will be broader implications and

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Speaker 13: says there are really wider societal concerns.

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Speaker 14: Measures that restrict access to vote, particularly for young people,

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Speaker 14: risk deepening the distrust.

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Speaker 3: In our democracy.

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Speaker 14: And I want to be quite explicit at this point,

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Speaker 14: Committee members, this is not just about democracy for democracy sake.

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Speaker 14: Democracy is the best safeguard for human rights.

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Speaker 13: So's some quite strong words on this one from a

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Speaker 13: senior official, and also the Law Society has spoken a

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Speaker 13: bit about the changes to prisoner voting have a listened

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Speaker 13: to this one.

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Speaker 15: The band would also place New Zealand out of step

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Speaker 15: with Australia, Canada, Scotland, South Africa and nearly all EU

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Speaker 15: member states which allow at least some people in prison

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Speaker 15: to vote.

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Speaker 16: If not all.

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Speaker 13: And we've also been hearing from the Electoral Commission, which

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Speaker 13: has confirmed it does not expect the changes to make

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Speaker 13: vote counting any faster. So while it doesn't look like

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Speaker 13: it will materially reduce the time it takes to count

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Speaker 13: those votes, it does though mean the time doesn't blow

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Speaker 13: out significantly or will get much worse. So there'll be

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Speaker 13: a Select Committee report and further votes on the bill.

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Speaker 13: It does seem quite contentious at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Zari, thank you for that. It's Aria how senior

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Speaker 2: political reporter at News Talk Sead Be. It's just gone

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes away from five lots of texts coming in

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Speaker 2: saying why are we picking on Carl or why is

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Speaker 2: Parliament picking on Carl Bates at the National MP What

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Speaker 2: about Willie Jackson? He owns lots of men, He's declared

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Speaker 2: his right. So this is a very peculiar or particular

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Speaker 2: point about how you or what you have to declare

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Speaker 2: if you are a discretionary beneficiary of a family trust.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, it sounds confusing, but it's basically

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Speaker 2: he was told. He says he was told it was okay.

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Speaker 2: Now he's been told it's not and they're investigating him

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Speaker 2: for that. So did they investigate themselves, you know, and

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Speaker 2: their own advice?

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's ten away, that's the reason they're doing it. Ten

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Speaker 2: away from five News Talk sead.

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Speaker 1: Being the headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic

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Speaker 1: asking breakfast.

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Speaker 17: You got some more funding for new medicines from farm

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Speaker 17: Mac David Seymour's of course Associatementster of Health that in

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Speaker 17: charge of FARMAK.

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Speaker 18: Instead of Farmac taking the money it has and trying

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Speaker 18: to negotiate within it, we're actually going to the Minister

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Speaker 18: of Finance each year and saying, look, we think if

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Speaker 18: we funded a few more drugs, we would be able

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Speaker 18: to save the taxpayer money in other areas. And not

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Speaker 18: to say this will happen, but you look at some

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Speaker 18: of these drugs like zempic. If we can cut down obesity,

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Speaker 18: that can save huge amounts of money on everything from

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Speaker 18: orthopedic surgery to kidney dialysis.

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Speaker 3: So it's a work in progress.

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Speaker 17: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 17: Rain Drover Newstalk.

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Speaker 2: ZB seven to five News Talk ZIB. Coming up after five,

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Speaker 2: we'll look at the oil and gas band being lifted,

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Speaker 2: and the fact that within two hours of that happening,

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Speaker 2: there's already been an application from somebody, don't know who.

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Speaker 2: At this point, they won't say to drill, Baby, Drill,

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Speaker 2: as Shane likes to say. Now, there's a new podcast

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Speaker 2: that's launched. It's called The Elephant and it's launched by

588
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Speaker 2: The Herald and ended me and it looks at a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of controvers Their first one is shame and

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Speaker 2: they've asked a couple of guests on and you will

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Speaker 2: know these guests well, Golera's Garment and Tory Farno first

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Speaker 2: two guests on the show. Here's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a little taster of what they've had to say. This

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Speaker 2: is Goals describing the court process.

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Speaker 19: I certainly feel shame about like the shoplifting incident and

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Speaker 19: going to court, and I mean, I don't think anyone

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Speaker 19: can really describe the feeling of standing in the dock

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Speaker 19: and then the entire press gallery descends upon you and

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Speaker 19: the flashing. You know, it's like a it's like a

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Speaker 19: firing line.

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Speaker 2: This is Tory on the drinking because.

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Speaker 20: When you're constantly receiving this really hateful behavior by anonymous people,

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Speaker 20: but also your own colleagues. It creates so much anxiety

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Speaker 20: and depression that for me, sure I need some wine.

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Speaker 2: And this is the mental health as an excuse.

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Speaker 20: There are certain journalists, and there's one journalist who just

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Speaker 20: wrote the most horrific opinion piece about Goras and said

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Speaker 20: something like, oh, she's just using mental health as an excuse.

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Speaker 20: It actually is an excuse.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because the whole podcast is about shame, and

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Speaker 2: certainly they have felt I'm sure they're fair share of that. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: being in the dock, you'd feel quite shamed, and well

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Speaker 2: you would hope you feel shamed and embarrassed. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of the point of it, right. I just don't know

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Speaker 2: what are we learning. Why are they doing it? I

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Speaker 2: suppose because you know, it's all sort of done and dusted,

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Speaker 2: no one's really talking about it anymore. But here we

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Speaker 2: are talking about it again. It's five away from five

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars up for grabs. This is term deposits,

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Speaker 2: and if you have a term deposit you will know

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Speaker 2: exactly what Cameron Baggery is getting at when he talks

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Speaker 2: about the fact that there's a tipping point approaching, so

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Speaker 2: we're reaching peak term deposit. Basically, balances blew up. You know,

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Speaker 2: interest rates went high. People through their money. You couldn't

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Speaker 2: throw it fast enough at the bank to get a

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Speaker 2: term deposit. From twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: they're total term deposits in New Zealand went from one

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Speaker 2: hundred billion to one hundred and sixty billion over that

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Speaker 2: three year period. But we're coming down the other side. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: inflation at two point seven percent going to be three percent.

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Speaker 2: With a let's say three point eight percent term deposits,

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Speaker 2: says Cameron Bagger, your after tax return is going to

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Speaker 2: be a negative number by the time you adjust for inflation.

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Speaker 2: So the question then becomes, where is all that money

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Speaker 2: going to go? Where are you going to put it?

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Speaker 2: Term depositors properties cheap should go up? Do you put

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Speaker 2: it there? Shares? It's a bullmarket, runaway bullmarket thanks to AI.

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Speaker 2: Do you put it into equities? What are you going

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Speaker 2: to do with all that cash once you get it?

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Speaker 2: N ninety two is the numbers of text. No one.

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Speaker 2: This is the great mystery. No one actually really knows.

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Speaker 2: It's all. It's all qualitative data rather than quantitative data,

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Speaker 2: isn't it so your texts will tell us where those

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Speaker 2: where that money is going to end up. Coming up

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Speaker 2: to five o'clock after five, Miles hurrele on one of,

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Speaker 2: if not the best resist for Fonterra and therefore one of,

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Speaker 2: if not the best results for New Zealand. That's next

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Speaker 2: right out for five.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, you try to keep me down, trying to bum

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Speaker 21: me underground burn.

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Speaker 3: I'm only going I can hear you.

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Speaker 21: Hear my head and when I meant, you're.

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Speaker 22: Blown a hole.

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Speaker 9: Now skilled telling you where you can go.

655
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Speaker 1: You't pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's

656
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Speaker 1: Ryan bridge on hither to pice Ellen dry with one

657
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Speaker 1: New Zealand coverage like no one else you saw, said

658
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Speaker 1: me good anything.

659
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: The regions will get a double wheremy boost with this

660
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Fonterra result and they profit up over a billion dollars.

661
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: Shareholders will get their highest ever total dividend of fifty

662
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: seven cents a share for the year, which is great.

663
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: Add to the the consumer brand sale. Three out of

664
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Speaker 2: the four billion of that is going back to Miles

665
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Speaker 2: Harrell is fon Terra's chief executive. With me tonight, Miles

666
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: good evening, good edning run, how did you feel about

667
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: that result, Oh.

668
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 23: Superb result.

669
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Speaker 24: Our team have got up and delivered and you know,

670
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Speaker 24: please to be able to stand up there this morning and

671
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 24: talk to a farmers and deliver a decent milk price,

672
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 24: but also decent earnings on top.

673
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 23: So no, overall superb result for the team.

674
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Speaker 2: What are you expecting in the year ahead. I mean,

675
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: obviously it's been a great year dairy price wise. What

676
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: are you expecting going forward?

677
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 24: Yeah, So to finish the year ten sixteen, ten dollars

678
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 24: sixteen per kilogram for the last season, and the forecast

679
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 24: the head still remains ten dollars. A second year in

680
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 24: a row forecast of ten dollars, which.

681
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 23: Is we've never been done before.

682
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 24: Of course, still a bit of uncertainty out the end

683
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 24: the international market, and we're only in the early early stages,

684
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 24: so a lot of the water to go unto the bridge.

685
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 24: But as we see here today, feel pretty good about

686
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 24: ten dollars for the second year in a row.

687
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: When you say uncertainty, do you mean supply stuff or

688
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: trade stuff? For both.

689
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 23: Mainly trade geopolitics.

690
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 24: It just it just puts a bit uncertainty in the

691
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 24: minds of buyers whether they be in the US or

692
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 24: throughout Asia. It just puts unsettledness into the market, and

693
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 24: so you know, to buyers sit around and wait a

694
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 24: little bit and does.

695
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 23: That soften the market?

696
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 24: But you know, at the same time, you know, we've

697
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 24: got a good product to sell and the customs of

698
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 24: wanting it, so those things balance out I think at

699
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 24: a good ten dollars.

700
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: Again, locally, the price of buses obviously been very big

701
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: on the minds of consumers. Is it frustrating for you

702
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: to hear that debate and to hear the reaction from

703
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: some of our politicians.

704
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 24: Well, I think we should acknowledge. I mean, it has

705
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 24: been tough out there for consumers. In the price of

706
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 24: dairy products has risen in the last twelve eighty months,

707
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 24: caught quite significantly, So we should acknowledge that it has

708
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 24: been tough.

709
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 23: You know.

710
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 24: That said, the whole sale Bartter price has probably come

711
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 24: off about fifteen percent actually in the last two months,

712
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 24: so you know, at some point that will flow through

713
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 24: to the supermarkets. I suspect that they'll set their own prices,

714
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 24: but that should flow through and give an element of relief.

715
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 24: But you know, at the end of the day, as

716
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 24: we've said, previously. You know, the international market has been

717
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 24: quite buoyant, which which delivers these returns about to New Zealand.

718
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 24: Unfortunately that that flows through to the markets here.

719
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: Why the delay for it to flow through, Well.

720
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 24: Well, I mean depends on what sort of contracts each

721
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 24: of these supermarkets will have, who they're brought from, over

722
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 24: what periods, where they be quarterly contracts or spot pricing.

723
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 24: So there might be some inventory in the system and

724
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 24: when you go to the supermarket it's there's stock there

725
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 24: that didn't arrive this morning. It might have been there

726
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 24: for us for a few weeks, and so those things

727
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 24: take some time to flow through.

728
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 23: But you know, as they say, the wholesale price has.

729
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 24: Come down steadily in the last of a month or two,

730
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 24: and I expect that to flow through to at some point.

731
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Roughly north of four billion for the sale of their

732
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: consumer business and three billion going to shareholders, the remainder

733
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: being reinvested into.

734
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Speaker 24: What Well, so we have a range of things that

735
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 24: we're looking at, So we haven't made any calls on

736
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 24: that other than we've already got a pipeline of growth

737
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 24: projects out there, including an additional butter capacity we are putting

738
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 24: into into the South Island at some point next year.

739
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 24: So the range of sort of growth projects predominantly for

740
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 24: the export market again, so some of it will go

741
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 24: towards that. We also want to keep a conservative balance sheet,

742
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 24: and it's important in a cooperative position, and we're dealing

743
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 24: an international market to maintain a conservative balance sheet. So

744
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 24: a combination of those things. But at the same time,

745
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 24: you know, we are in a really good position. It

746
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 24: gives us opportunity to explore other alternatives as they come up.

747
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: China, how are you feeling about it? They are obviously

748
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: a government, they're trying to stoke consumer demand. It has

749
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: been relatively strong for us. How significant is that now

750
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: in terms of the business and how significant will it

751
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: be going forward?

752
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 25: Yeah.

753
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 24: Look, it's still a third of our book, maybe even

754
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 24: slightly more than a third of our book, and we

755
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 24: have been strong, robust demand in the last twelve months. Yeah,

756
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 24: it has come off from where it was two or

757
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 24: three years ago, and I think we've talked about that.

758
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 24: But at the same time, we are still seeing strong demand.

759
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 24: But at the same time, you know, the innovation cycle

760
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 24: is quite fast in China. You've got to continue to

761
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 24: find new products in new markets. And new customers, which

762
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 24: our team in the markets do so feeling good about that.

763
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 24: I think they've they've seen the GDP growth actually start

764
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 24: doing increase again from the slumps they had a year ago,

765
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Speaker 24: and so we'll ride the wave of that, but certainly

766
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 24: not back.

767
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 23: To where it was in twenty twenty three. But we're

768
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 23: in a pretty good position.

769
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Speaker 2: I've had text in the show this afternoon miles from

770
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Speaker 2: farmers from your suppliers saying we think it's crazy to

771
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: sell off and it's not. You know, there is a

772
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: range of views, but some saying it's crazy to sell

773
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: off part of the company now that it's running well,

774
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: value add et cetera.

775
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 24: What do you say, Well, look, it's running, it's running

776
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 24: a heck a lot better than where it's been in the.

777
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 23: History of the corp.

778
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 24: I'd go as far as to say that's said that

779
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 24: still doesn't in our minds get to the cost of

780
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 24: capital that our farmers have invested in. So, you know,

781
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 24: when you operating in a finite resource environment, whether that

782
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 24: be cash or others, you've got to put your your

783
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 24: farmer's capital to things that we're going to get the

784
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 24: best return and consumers still is the lag out of that.

785
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 24: So the economics of it I think are quite clear.

786
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 24: I think you get to the emotional element from our

787
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 24: farmers that are their brands that they've invested in, and

788
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 24: we all understand them. But at the end of the day,

789
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 24: I've got a lot through that and say what's the

790
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 24: right thing to do for the cop well into the

791
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 24: next generation or two.

792
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 23: We'll take that to farmers the end of October for

793
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 23: a vote.

794
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 24: We're out on farm next week talking to a range

795
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 24: of farmers to get their views and then to answer

796
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 24: their questions. But you know, we feel confident in our

797
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 24: position going forward, but ultimately files the end of October.

798
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: All right, Myles, appreciate your time tonight, Miles Hant. Congratulations

799
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: on the result. Miles Harold, chief executive at Fontira. It

800
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: is twelve after five. By the way, I did ask

801
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: Miles earlier on this afternoon about the India Free Trade Deal,

802
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: because that's the next big I mean, outside of stuff

803
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: that you can control as the chief executive of Fonterira,

804
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: that would be the next big prize, wouldn't it. He's

805
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: not hopeful anytime soon for anything that's comprehensive and would

806
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: involve dairy right from today, oil and gas being officially gone,

807
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: there's a new faster pathway that's been announced as well

808
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: that you can go and explore on. The first application

809
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 2: was actually put in a less than two hours after

810
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: the process reopened at midnight, which is good news if

811
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: you're in the business. John Carnegie is with US Energy Resources.

812
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 26: Al Hey John, yep, yeah, good afternoon.

813
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: Do you know who this applicant is? What do we

814
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: know about them?

815
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 26: No, No, that's obviously confidential to the minister in the ministry.

816
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 26: But given the time that they put the application in,

817
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 26: hopefully it's from someone offshore, you'd hope.

818
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Speaker 2: So how worried will they be about labor and the Greens?

819
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 23: Oh?

820
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 26: Look, ongoing policy certainty is critical to investors, and so

821
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 26: that will certainly be a factor that investors will weigh

822
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 26: up the likelihood of another policy reversal. And you know

823
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 26: that's just not helpful.

824
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: How long realistically, let's say this applicant is successful, they're

825
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: allowed to go and explore. Let's say they find something.

826
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: How long realistically between application searching and extracting.

827
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 26: Well, look, it's interesting because the lengthy timelines proposed by

828
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 26: groups like Greenpeace actually aren't grounded in reality. In fact,

829
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Speaker 26: the arithmetic nonsense because even recent history shows that the

830
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 26: fields can be brought to market quickly. And this is

831
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 26: even offshore. Offshore Papakura took six years from discovery to production,

832
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 26: whilst some other offshore developments were as short as free

833
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 26: and onshore. Of course it's even faster. The touring field

834
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 26: was producing within a year. So look where there were

835
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 26: longer delays in the past, that was because of Maui,

836
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 26: a globally significant find which was meeting almost all of

837
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Speaker 26: New Zealand's needs at the time. So there was absolutely

838
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 26: no urgency to rush any other developments to market. And

839
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 26: I think the counterpoint line is today's situation is very

840
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 26: very different. We face a significant gap between subfined demands.

841
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 26: We've got energy shortage and that means that any discoveries

842
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 26: would be developed much more quickly to meet that demand.

843
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Speaker 2: John, appreciate your time. John Carnegie's with US energy resources

844
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: out here. And it is quarter past five greens obviously

845
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: not with that, more on that before five point thirty.

846
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Speaker 2: Next we'll talk to the ABS head of the big match,

847
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: Eden Park Wallabies on Saturday News Talks b It is

848
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: five eighteen. Good to have your company tonight. So we've

849
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: got the team naming for the Abs today. Scott Barrett

850
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: out with the shoulder injury. That means Ardie is into

851
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: the captaincy Cam roy Guard returns to half back Lee

852
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 2: Roy Carter he's moving to the right wing, Caleb Clark

853
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: back on the left. All Black's assistant coach Tamothy Ellison

854
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: is with MEDA. Good to have you on the show.

855
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: How's morale?

856
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 16: Yeah? Great, looking forward to to getting into it. Expend

857
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 16: on tom coming and.

858
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: In terms of the changes, Roy Guard returns to half back,

859
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: Carter moves to the right wing, Caleb Clark back on

860
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: the left. What's what is the thinking around some of

861
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: these changes?

862
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 26: Yeah?

863
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 16: I think Caleb zo he spent near here, physical ball carrier,

864
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 16: got a good try against Counties, educating against can Align

865
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 16: and then Cam was influenceduring that game. So good they

866
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 16: have Campa he's slotted really well. Ruki really confidence, So

867
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 16: it's great to see from.

868
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 11: Both of them.

869
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Speaker 2: Are you worried about what might happen even though it's

870
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Speaker 2: in part what might happen given what happened with South Africa.

871
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 16: I don't. I don't think worries the right word. I

872
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 16: think you prepare every week in your audue respect to

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Speaker 16: your position and all due respect to to our our

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Speaker 16: own jewsy in the way we want to play the

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Speaker 16: game and the adjustments we've made. So I wouldn't say

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Speaker 16: we've talked about worry.

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Speaker 2: How's Scott's shoulder?

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Speaker 16: Yeah? Yet what we're to do today? So I'll be

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Speaker 16: holding at Chilton doing a week, but with them so

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Speaker 16: well after that, I'm not looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Is anyone. Look, there's a lot of talk about the captain.

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Speaker 2: See there's a lot of talk about Addie Savia. Obviously

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Speaker 2: he's taking over in lieu of Scott Barrett. Is it

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Speaker 2: anything that's been discussed within the team or within the

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Speaker 2: coaching team?

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Speaker 16: You mean leadership, but it's always discussed, that's what you're

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Speaker 16: talking about. Yeah, we've got great leaders a great leadership

888
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Speaker 16: group who you know, who help each other in all

889
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Speaker 16: different parts of the weeks. Of different people lead at

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Speaker 16: different times. Obviously Cody Taylor there back this week, and

891
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Speaker 16: Jordi Barrett is another one Pittuck Trooper or two also,

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Speaker 16: So yes, that's what you mean.

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Speaker 2: I meant, I meant, are you considering dropping Scott Barrett

894
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Speaker 2: as captain. Oh no, all right, well that answers that Tamosy,

895
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Speaker 2: thank you, Tomoty Ellison, who's the all black assistant coach.

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Speaker 2: Time is five twenty News Talks MB.

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Speaker 1: For the name you trumped to get the answers you need,

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Speaker 1: it's Ryan Bridge on hither duplicy Ellen Drive with one

899
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Speaker 1: New Zealand coverage like no one else News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It is five twenty three. So this Oil and Gas

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Speaker 2: Span announcement timing's a little bit awkward for the Greens.

902
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Speaker 2: I'll get to that in a second. Basically, what's happened

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Speaker 2: today is applications have opened across the whole country, land

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Speaker 2: and sea for the first time since twenty eighteen. The

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Speaker 2: ban is officially lifted. There's a new market pathway that

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Speaker 2: the government's announced which will run alongside the usual block

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Speaker 2: off attender. Basically, it means if you want to apply

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Speaker 2: to poke around for some oil and gas fields, you

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Speaker 2: can anywhere any type apply. Being the operative word doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean it'll happen now. This will sounds good if you're

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Speaker 2: in the middle of an energy crisis, which we are,

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Speaker 2: but will the international or even local investment in prospective

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Speaker 2: actually happen. Well, one application within the space of two

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Speaker 2: hours would seem to suggest that there's at least some interest,

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Speaker 2: which is good. Is it all worth it? The Greens

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Speaker 2: say no. They have said this is igniting a climate

917
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Speaker 2: fire today, which they've put out on the same day

918
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Speaker 2: that there's this photo of Chloe Swarbrick going viral online.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this? The reason it's going viral is

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Speaker 2: that she's on a plane. She's on a plane to London.

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Speaker 2: To be more specific, when planes use avgas and that's

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Speaker 2: fossil fuels. But that's not really why it's gone viral.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the plane. The co leader of the

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Speaker 2: Green Party for People and Planet appears to be flying

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Speaker 2: business class.

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Speaker 13: Nothing beats the Jetsu holiday and right now you can

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Speaker 13: save fifty pounds per person. That's two hundred pounds off

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Speaker 13: for a family of four.

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Speaker 2: Now, I say appears because we went to the Greens

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Speaker 2: today after this has been sent to us a thousand times,

931
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Speaker 2: went to the Greens and said, hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Did Chloe actually fly business class over to London? And

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Speaker 2: they came back with the statement to say, no, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't business class, it was premium economy. Is that is

935
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Speaker 2: that better? I don't know anyway. Premium Economy apparently on

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, and it was paid for. Went there

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Speaker 2: as part of a mission led by the Insurance Council

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand to meet with reinsurers, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: They say, climate change is the global issue which requires

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Speaker 2: global cooperation. Insurance is an important part of managing the

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Speaker 2: damage that it will cause. She's taken the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: meet with political leaders, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. The travel, they say,

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Speaker 2: has been funded by the Insurance Council, so we are

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Speaker 2: not on the hook for it. So that's the beginning, middle,

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Speaker 2: and end of that story. Twenty five after five staying

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Speaker 2: on climate change for just a second, Chi Jinping this

947
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Speaker 2: is over in the un Chi Jinpang's big speech and

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Speaker 2: he uses it to give Trump a good old bash

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Speaker 2: about climate change. He says, the US is not rising

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Speaker 2: to the climate challenge, and it's like pot kettle black

951
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Speaker 2: because China is the world's largest emitter of CO two

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Speaker 2: by a long shot. Actually, So what he did is

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Speaker 2: come out with some cuts to try and soften this,

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Speaker 2: and he's announced plans to cut him by between seven

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Speaker 2: and ten percent of their peak by twenty thirty five,

956
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Speaker 2: which is a long way from the thirty percent that

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Speaker 2: the experts reckon that they'll need to get to. It's

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Speaker 2: more wind, more solar. This is their plan renewable goal

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Speaker 2: of thirty percent of consumption. That is the Chinese goal

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Speaker 2: right now. The climate people, as you can imagine is

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Speaker 2: always the case, not happy with Hi Jinping after his performance.

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Speaker 2: Also not happy was one Winston Raymond Peters, because he

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Speaker 2: was trying to get to his dinner last night with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump was hosted. It was just canapis and they

965
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Speaker 2: were standing around having a chat. But you'd want to

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Speaker 2: be there, wouldn't you? Traffic? Do they need to move

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Speaker 2: the un You know? Also how ironic that they're all

968
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Speaker 2: inside talking about climate change while outside the street's choking

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Speaker 2: with big gas guzzlers. Twenty seven after five news talks inb.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 1: either duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand and the

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Speaker 1: power of satellite mobile news talks.

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Speaker 3: There being.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five away from six year on Newstalks and we'll

976
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Speaker 2: get to the huddle in just second. Lots of texts

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Speaker 2: about Chloe Swalbrook in the flight to London. They're now

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Speaker 2: and from this flight to London, and people have obviously

979
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Speaker 2: seen this viral photo online of her sitting in what

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Speaker 2: appears to be a business class seat, But the Greens

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Speaker 2: are saying, no, she flew premium economy there. So and

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Speaker 2: you know, we've got lots of texts. This is one

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Speaker 2: from rob not premium economy. As an Air New Zealand

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Speaker 2: very frequent flyer, I can assure you she is very

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Speaker 2: obviously sitting in business premiere. You can tell from the

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Speaker 2: angled herringbone seating. Yeah, that's what I thought too, But

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Speaker 2: we don't know that whether that photo is from this

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Speaker 2: trip or whether that photo is from another trip. We

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Speaker 2: also actually don't know that it's definitely her in the photo.

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Speaker 2: But the Greens didn't say, you know, we told them

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Speaker 2: while we were asking about the flight, and they didn't say, no,

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Speaker 2: that it's wrong. So it is a bit odd. It's

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Speaker 2: a bit odd. But anyway they are saying, they've told

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Speaker 2: us it was a premium economy and it was paid

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Speaker 2: for by the insurance council. Lots of texts as well

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Speaker 2: on the UN and the traffic and the fact that

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Speaker 2: all the roads are blocks. John Thanking for that text

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Speaker 2: us that is a big problem obviously because of the

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Speaker 2: motorcades and lots of people have been there in New

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Speaker 2: York while the UN leader's meeting is on, and it's chaos.

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Speaker 2: It is chaos. I went there in twenty thirteen for

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Speaker 2: one with John Key, and he would walk because they

1003
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Speaker 2: will walk around the streets because you obviously can't drive anywhere,

1004
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Speaker 2: and he fell ill. Do you remember John Key used

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Speaker 2: to faint quite often. There was a he was going

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Speaker 2: down to Antarctica. The night before he left, he was

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Speaker 2: at a Chinese restaurant and just fainted. We were told

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Speaker 2: as a press pack that you've just literally face planted

1009
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Speaker 2: into his dinner, and I'm assuming it was exult We

1010
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Speaker 2: never really got to the bottom of why. But he

1011
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Speaker 2: was doing a lot of travel at the time, and

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Speaker 2: then over in New York walking along the sidewalk and

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Speaker 2: he falls, l goes pale as a ghost, runs into

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Speaker 2: an Irish pub and chunders. Anyway, he was fine, came right,

1015
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Speaker 2: went to his meetings in the afternoon. But it's a

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Speaker 2: grueling schedule that you keep as a prime minister, so

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised to see them, you know, dropping like

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Speaker 2: flies twenty three not our Winston, though not our Winston

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Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from six Bridge Checondary. Teachers say

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Speaker 2: there's been a dramatic rise in extremism among high school students,

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Speaker 2: especially young boys. It includes the spread, they say, of

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Speaker 2: misogynistic views that are amplified by social media figures like

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Speaker 2: Andrew Tate. The teacher union wants the government to do

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Speaker 2: something about the whole thing. Jillianne heather Is, the chief

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Speaker 2: executive of the Free Speech Union, is on the line

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Speaker 2: with us tonight. Good evening, Hi Ryan, thanks for having me. Jilane,

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Speaker 2: what did you make of the comments today from the PPT.

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Speaker 27: I was, to be honest, I was a little confused

1029
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Speaker 27: about the comments. I'm not at all downplaying that there

1030
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Speaker 27: are issues, that teaching is an incredibly tough and important job,

1031
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Speaker 27: but it really seemed to be that these were the

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Speaker 27: ideas that they disagreed with. You know, they sort of

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Speaker 27: said that classrooms are not ideological battlegrounds, and they wanted

1034
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Speaker 27: more the government to censor or prohibit certain views, and

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Speaker 27: clearly with the Free Speech Union, that is absolutely something

1036
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Speaker 27: we don't advocate for, where we're for more speech, open discourse,

1037
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Speaker 27: more dialogue, and not censorship of ideas no matter how

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Speaker 27: bad they are.

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Speaker 2: One of the issues that was raised was that there

1040
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Speaker 2: were boys apparently saying they were pro Trump or Trump

1041
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Speaker 2: Boys comp supporters, and some girls who were saying that

1042
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Speaker 2: they wanted to be their career choice would be traditional

1043
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Speaker 2: wives or trad wives, in other words, staying at home,

1044
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Speaker 2: raising children, getting married, that kind of stuff. Is there

1045
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Speaker 2: anything wrong with that?

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Speaker 27: You literally are talking to the wrong person, Ryan. Those

1047
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Speaker 27: are ideas kids are programmed to push back against, you know,

1048
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Speaker 27: the ideas that the adults hold, the ideas that the generation.

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Speaker 6: Before them held.

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Speaker 27: I think they were completely legitimate political or vocational ideas

1051
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Speaker 27: that kids can hold. And what you want to do

1052
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Speaker 27: if you disagree with those ideas is engage with them,

1053
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Speaker 27: engage in counter speech, dismantle the ideas, test them, get

1054
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Speaker 27: them to bring their receipts. You can't censor those ideas, surely.

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Speaker 2: What about social media? The other argument here is that

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Speaker 2: social media is making everything worse. You know, as you

1057
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Speaker 2: say you're from the Free Speech Union, that's pre speech

1058
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Speaker 2: and action Jesus pretty ugly.

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Speaker 27: Look, I don't disagree with all that social media. The

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Speaker 27: algorithms can bring out the worst and really amplify the worst.

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Speaker 27: You know, there are absolute legitimate concerns from many parents

1062
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Speaker 27: and teachers, and you know, sort of that asymmetrical power

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Speaker 27: and balance between the tech platforms and kids. But again

1064
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Speaker 27: we know from history censorship and prohibition just doesn't work.

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Speaker 27: You drive the ideas underground, you make them more enticing,

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Speaker 27: you give them that stride and effect. You know, what

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Speaker 27: you really want to do is engage with these ideas,

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Speaker 27: or if we're talking specifically about social media, you really

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Speaker 27: want to engage with more targeted school community education efforts,

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Speaker 27: enhance media literacy, more discernment and critical thinking skills, you know,

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Speaker 27: the ability to evaluate the evidence, give parents, give teachers,

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Speaker 27: and give the kids enhanced skills to deal with social

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Speaker 27: media because it's not going away.

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Speaker 2: Juliane appreciate that. Thank you. Julane Head, the chief Executive

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Speaker 2: Free Speech Union. Time is twenty to six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty. Find your

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Speaker 2: Calie Giants Red Pianic Legan Infrastructure New Zealand on the line,

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Speaker 2: good evening.

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Speaker 11: Guys, Hello, good afterday, Allie.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of the PPTA thing? Do you

1082
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Speaker 2: think like there are two issues? One is a child

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Speaker 2: allowed to have political views, and it's like, obviously yes.

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Speaker 2: The other is are they being misogynist or saying nasty stuff?

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Speaker 2: That's another issue altogether. I would have thought, what do

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Speaker 2: you think?

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Speaker 28: I think we.

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Speaker 29: Might be complicating it a little. Actually, even after listening

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Speaker 29: to your interview just then, I think things that people

1090
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 29: have found offensive and inappropriate have been around four years.

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Speaker 29: I do agree that the social media element really is

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Speaker 29: a completely different kettle of fish from when I was

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Speaker 29: at school and even you were at school, Ryan, But

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Speaker 29: I do wonder whether one of the main things missing

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00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 29: these days is role modeling. You know, I kind to

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Speaker 29: like sponges, and so we talk about giving parents tools,

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Speaker 29: giving people tools.

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Speaker 28: Yes, that's important, but actually I.

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Speaker 29: Think it's simpler monkey see monkey do who did their

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Speaker 29: parents use as role models? Is role modeling or lack

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Speaker 29: of the issue is that they're going somewhere else because

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Speaker 29: they don't have that role modeling. And I think we

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Speaker 29: need to call out bad behavior or we've become the

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Speaker 29: society where we danse lift our head above the parapet

1105
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 29: It's a bit that we'll see, you know that we

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 29: don't actually call people out on things when they behave

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Speaker 29: badly in public.

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Speaker 28: So I think there's a lot of stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: That we can do that could make a difference.

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Speaker 2: Do you think I've thought, Nick, we would have gone

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00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: the other We've actually gone the other way, where we

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Speaker 2: are quick to call people out, quick to cancel, quick

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Speaker 2: to publicly shame online.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I think that's right. I mean, I think cooler

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Speaker 11: heads they needed here. It does interest me. I mean

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Speaker 11: there are aspects to this reporting that I guess, you know,

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Speaker 11: some of what is being reported in terms of views

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Speaker 11: held by kids, you know, I find a bit disturbing.

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Speaker 11: There's others that I don't. But I don't think banning

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Speaker 11: or slamming or stopping is the answer. I think we

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 11: need cooler heads. I mean, you know, if we're talking

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Speaker 11: about a particular ideological extremism showing in our schools, it's

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Speaker 11: often the opposite extreme that's calling it out. And the

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Speaker 11: truth is, in a society like this, we don't need

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Speaker 11: a room for both because thee I see extremism on

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Speaker 11: social media from the left and the right, and we

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Speaker 11: only ever see these things talking about right wing extremism,

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Speaker 11: and so I think we need to be very balanced.

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Speaker 11: And you know, extreme ideas, actually we should tolerate them

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Speaker 11: where they don't hurt and they don't interfere with other

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Speaker 11: people's lives. And I think the idea is this sort

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Speaker 11: of we've got to stop and suppress and prohibit. I

1133
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 11: agree with the Free Speech Union in the sense that

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Speaker 11: when that happens, you do drive it underground. But I

1135
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Speaker 11: think we've got to be ready for all voices. But frankly, Ryan,

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Speaker 11: I'm more to the center, and I think that a

1137
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Speaker 11: strong center is needed, and we are lacking that in

1138
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 11: society moment where we pull the best from both sides

1139
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Speaker 11: and we pull it together and we get on with

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Speaker 11: each other even when we disagree.

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Speaker 2: Ellie Jones m Leggan on the Huddle. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: in just a second.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global

1144
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Speaker 1: leader in luxury real.

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Speaker 2: Estate fourteen to six. Alie Jones and Nick Leggan on

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Speaker 2: the Huddle tonight. Ellie, the oil and gas ban officially

1147
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: now has been reversed. They've unfarted. If you will and

1148
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Speaker 2: the applications are open. They've even had an application fire

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Speaker 2: and within two hours of it opening, apparently. Do you think,

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Speaker 2: like when you hear people talk about this, do you

1151
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: actually believe that it will help solve the energy crunch

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Speaker 2: that we are and will be experiencing in the coming years.

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Speaker 26: I don't know.

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Speaker 28: I mean, how many people do know that?

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Speaker 29: One of the hardest things here is that this is

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00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 29: where you actually have to trust people.

1157
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Speaker 28: And I don't know whether we.

1158
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 29: Should trust politicians per se, but I think we need

1159
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 29: to be really sure that we do, in fact have

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Speaker 29: a gaping hole in New Zealand's medium term energy security.

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Speaker 29: I don't know that we also need to be sure

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Speaker 29: that we need to get the sector back to work

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 29: to play catch up, as as mister Jones has said,

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Speaker 29: and I wish mister Jones was speaking in the third person,

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Speaker 29: but that's for another day. I want to be sure

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Speaker 29: that the climate cost benefit analysis has been done as well.

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Speaker 28: So, like I said, there's a lot of trust here.

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Speaker 29: We do need to make sure that we have security

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Speaker 29: around our energy delivery and availability. But those are questions

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Speaker 29: I don't know. Nick might know better, he's your infrastructure man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm and ask the manufacturers.

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Speaker 11: Right, oh exactly. I mean, look, this is about this

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00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 11: is not a long term pitch for New Zealand. It

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Speaker 11: is exactly as Ali said, It is about shoring us

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Speaker 11: up so our economy doesn't collapse and we don't force

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Speaker 11: a whole lot of businesses out of business because they

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Speaker 11: can't transition, they don't have the investment funds to transition.

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Speaker 11: In the short to medium term. We do have to

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00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 11: have a longer plan. We do have to actually reduce

1180
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 11: our emotions and get to their net zero, but that

1181
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 11: is going to take longer, and collapsing the economy in

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Speaker 11: the short term is going to make us even further

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Speaker 11: from that reality. So I think this is pragmatic. I

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Speaker 11: think the other thing to remember here is there is

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Speaker 11: a process. We're not just going to rip the landscape

1186
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 11: open and plunder it. There will be a process, and

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Speaker 11: public opinion will be watching these applications very carefully, as

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Speaker 11: it should, because we do have to guard against environmental

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Speaker 11: degradation and we want to balance exploiting what we have

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Speaker 11: in terms of what's on the ground to keep us

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Speaker 11: going that with it with environmental protection. And I don't

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Speaker 11: think we're throwing that out the door, but we have

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Speaker 11: to be careful. But what is at stake is if

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 11: we don't know if the lights go off in winter

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Speaker 11: and we can't power ourselves to keep people warm, to

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 11: run industry, to create food people to eat, this country

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01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 11: will go downhill faster than any of us have ever

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Speaker 11: could ever imagine. And that's so what are we doing now? Nick?

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Speaker 28: What this is?

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Speaker 29: The other question I want to know is it's all

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01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 29: very well saying that we need this as a bit

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01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 29: of a you know, a temporary This is a we

1203
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 29: just got to tread water for a bit while we

1204
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 29: sought something out. Who is watching the development of what

1205
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 29: we need long term recording on that the.

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Speaker 11: Larger gen tailors, but also a lot in the private

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01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 11: sector looking at both wind and solar generations. It is

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Speaker 11: a happening thing. And let's not forget geothermal as well.

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Speaker 11: There are you know, we've got some regulatory challenges around

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01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 11: alternative energy, but those I think will be worked through.

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01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 11: So we've got to trust both the government in terms

1212
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Speaker 11: of its regulation, the market in terms of the capital

1213
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Speaker 11: of the expertise that can bring to actually power us up.

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Speaker 2: So we have they're piling money and the gentails into

1215
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: renewables at the moment, which is hopefully going to save

1216
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Speaker 2: the day eventually. In the meantime, Ellie, do we fly

1217
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: on planes? Do we criticize?

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Speaker 29: And I was so disappointed with you on this. This

1219
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 29: is this gotcha bs? I hate it.

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Speaker 28: I mean, who cares?

1221
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Speaker 29: Is she bloody fo flying premium?

1222
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: She screams and yells at everybody else for the oil

1223
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Speaker 2: and gas exploration or oil and gas.

1224
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Speaker 29: Yes, maybe she maybe she offset the emissions. She's the

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Speaker 29: leader of them.

1226
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Speaker 2: But they don't like that too. They don't like that either,

1227
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Speaker 2: because you're not hunting trees in some foreign country.

1228
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 29: People are only happy if people who are elected members

1229
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 29: MP's local government. If we're wearing fatcloth and ashes, that's

1230
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 29: the only thing that seems to make people happy. I

1231
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 29: think we have to keep this within reasonable perspective. She

1232
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Speaker 29: was on a plane somewhere, for god sake, give her a.

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Speaker 2: Break, all right, Nick. The other was staying with the

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Speaker 2: airlines for a second. Ryan Air apparently is banning paper

1235
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: boarding passes. And I'm one of those people who I

1236
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: am desperate to get my hands on a paperboarding pass.

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Speaker 11: You want the security of a paper yes, No, I don't.

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Speaker 11: I want it on my phone. Of course, I'm having

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Speaker 11: said that I have been at the gate before on

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Speaker 11: the phone just decides to stop working, and so I'm

1241
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 11: holding what you just you just have to step aside

1242
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 11: and get your act to you.

1243
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Speaker 2: What what does that mean? Like go and charge your phone?

1244
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 11: Well well, or just let it recover itself. But I'm

1245
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 11: a lot. You can prove who you are, you know,

1246
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 11: if you're traveling and now you have your passed it

1247
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 11: with you. I mean not we can get over these challenges.

1248
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 11: I mean, look, it's you know, we make these sort

1249
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 11: of steps happen all the time. I mean, what happened

1250
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 11: when the world moved away from three G. You know,

1251
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 11: like we survived. People screamed, but we survived it. This

1252
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 11: is the you know, it's a small step, and like

1253
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 11: let's just let it happen them and think about.

1254
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Speaker 28: I don't agree. I don't agree. This is different, right,

1255
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 28: going from three G to five G. You still had

1256
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Speaker 28: a G.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: This is saying you don't have.

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Speaker 29: A paper boarding pass. I use both, and I've had

1260
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Speaker 29: the same thing happen. When you get to the boarding

1261
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 29: gate and your phone's dead, you're absolutely stuffed. Even when

1262
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 29: I go to the movies or I go to a show,

1263
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 29: I print those out as well, just so I've got

1264
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Speaker 29: them on me. I think the Ryanie should be doing

1265
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 29: what its customers want, and not all customers want to

1266
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 29: be or can use a smartphone for God's sake, it's

1267
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Speaker 29: a bit of paper. They need to just suck it

1268
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Speaker 29: up and deliver what their customers want.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one, Ellie, Thank you. Ellie

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Speaker 2: Jones read pr nick Legget Infratruction, New Zealand on the

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Speaker 2: Huddle tonight, seven minutes away from six News Talks. Also,

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Speaker 2: if you're worried about saving a tiny piece of paper

1273
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Speaker 2: and then getting on a plane to burn abgas, I mean,

1274
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Speaker 2: come on, it's like a drop in the ocean, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Do Pussy Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: 'b Dame Knowles. It's fine to six on News Talk.

1278
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Speaker 2: So there be Dame Knowles and the silver Ferns. I mean, yes,

1279
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Speaker 2: they are doing well, they've won the trophy, but she's

1280
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Speaker 2: not there and it's all a bit sad really, isn't it.

1281
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Speaker 2: The Aussie coach Briani Eckles said this about Dame Noles

1282
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Speaker 2: on the Aussie netbook podcast No Dribble.

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Speaker 30: The core of Noles is about player first, and I

1284
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 30: think that for her, she's been behind the scenes obviously

1285
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 30: for the past since Constellation Cup last year, she's been

1286
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Speaker 30: planning the next two years of two years of what

1287
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Speaker 30: that looks like leading into a World Cup, come of

1288
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Speaker 30: Games and Common Cups. So she wants to get back

1289
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Speaker 30: out there.

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Speaker 2: She wants to get back out there, of course she does.

1291
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Speaker 2: She wants to get back in there, and surely they

1292
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Speaker 2: will bring her back in. Surely. Hey, I've got for you.

1293
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Speaker 2: Coming up to six o'clock after six, we're going to

1294
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Speaker 2: talk about nuclear fallout. Apparently most of us want the

1295
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Speaker 2: government to have some sort of plan should the end

1296
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Speaker 2: of the world come very quickly. Though, This is the

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Speaker 2: most in demand jobs in New Zealand and twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five according to seek account manager sales number one, business development,

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Speaker 2: sales accountant, electrician, support worker, nurse, those surprises there, administration officer,

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Speaker 2: sales assistant, chef, and store manager. Those are your most

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Speaker 2: in demand roles. So if you're thinking about, well what

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Speaker 2: do I need to do? How should I train to

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Speaker 2: get a job, you could go worse than a nurse,

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Speaker 2: an electrician, an accountant or an account manager. Here you go,

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Speaker 2: coming up to six cop News TALKSB. We'll talk all

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Speaker 2: of that after six and Jamie McKay is with us

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Speaker 2: from the Country Rural News.

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Speaker 31: All ahead, we're Business meets Insight the Business Hours with.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Mass for Insurance Investments and Kiwi Saber

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Speaker 1: you're in good As News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B six, So seven, good evening. Great to have your

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Speaker 2: company coming up Jamie and Kaye on this Fonterra result

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Speaker 2: we'll talk mobile coverage for rural New Zealand and we'll

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Speaker 2: be in the UK within the Brady before top of

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Speaker 2: the hour as well. If the end of the world

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Speaker 2: comes tomorrow, and look, let's hope it doesn't, but just

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Speaker 2: how prepared are we for this? A new survey from

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Speaker 2: the University of Otago shows more than two thirds of

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Speaker 2: us would like the government to have contingency plans for

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Speaker 2: worldwide catastrophes. We're talking nuclear fallout, we're talking mass famines,

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Speaker 2: we're talking deadly diseases. Professor Nick Wilson is the University

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Speaker 2: of Otaga Department of Public Health. Nick Good evening, Hi, Roight,

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Speaker 2: So The nuclear fallout thing has always fascinated me, like,

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Speaker 2: if there was nuclear war in the Northern Hemisphere, then

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Speaker 2: we would have a nuclear winter here. Do we have

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Speaker 2: anything like a plan to deal with something like that

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, unfortunately we have no plans. I mean, back in

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Speaker 7: the nineteen eighties are actually some very good work by

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Speaker 7: the New Zealand Planning Council was done in a whole

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Speaker 7: book with a whole lot of background research was done.

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Speaker 7: But that's getting somewhat out of date, and so we

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Speaker 7: really need to update that type of thinking because out

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Speaker 7: of all the countries in the world, New Zealand's and

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Speaker 7: the top few places that would weather out a nuclear

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Speaker 7: winter relatively well. I mean it's being surrounded by ocean

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Speaker 7: has a big modifying effect and being far away from

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Speaker 7: the Northern Hemisphere as well. But we're really not prepared

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Speaker 7: for dealing with the trade collapse that would occur. And

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Speaker 7: so although we're a great producer of food, all that

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Speaker 7: food production relies on diesel, which is important. So we

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Speaker 7: haven't got a single biofuel refinery that could keep our

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Speaker 7: agricultural machine going for example.

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Speaker 2: So those are the kind of contingencies we need to

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Speaker 2: be thinking about. I've always been told that the most

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Speaker 2: realistic or you know, the most likely scenario that would

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Speaker 2: soon happen would be a blockade of time. One the

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Speaker 2: time one's straight closers, trade is massively affected for us

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Speaker 2: and we put out of business.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're a super trade dependent country, and that's good

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Speaker 7: in terms of efficiency. Is the whole just in time

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Speaker 7: sort of supply chain thing, but it really if you

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Speaker 7: have a whole wide range of scenarios, not just regional conflict,

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Speaker 7: but you know, if there's a big volcanic eruption around Indonesia,

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Speaker 7: that could really interrupt trade. So we just haven't got

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Speaker 7: the sort of planning that would help us through even

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Speaker 7: for a few difficult months where we've hardly got any

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Speaker 7: stored fuel in the country and definitely have no capacity

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Speaker 7: to produce any for ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Well, good thing we're digging from drilling for it.

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Speaker 7: Well, electricity is a more reliable sort of energy source.

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Speaker 7: So the progress that's been done on electrification is actually

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Speaker 7: a bright spot in our resiliency preparations.

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Speaker 2: But if we have if the let's say nuclear winter,

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Speaker 2: then you don't see the sun, do you.

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Speaker 7: Well, there's been a lot of sophisticated modeling done on this,

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Speaker 7: and nuclear winter is an absolute disaster for the northern

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Speaker 7: hemisphere where where you know, honestly billions of people could die.

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Speaker 7: But here in New Zealand's it would be reduced crop yields,

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Speaker 7: but we'd still have plenty of food and we've done

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Speaker 7: some research on that, so it would be tough, but

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Speaker 7: you know, we'd still have enough food to feed ourselves

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Speaker 7: and recover.

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Speaker 2: And then I suppose would everybody try and come here,

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Speaker 2: that would be your next problem, wouldn't that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's all these sort of things that need to

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Speaker 7: be thought through. Though New Zealand is one of the

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Speaker 7: remotest places, and you know most refugees would probably try

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Speaker 7: and go to a closer place like Australia. But you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, these simple things which you know can be

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Speaker 7: worked through and planned for, there's just been nothing done.

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Speaker 7: And the same for volcanic winters, where we know that

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Speaker 7: these occur because there's been multiple ones over the last

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Speaker 7: two thousand years, and they could also reduce sunlight and productivity,

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Speaker 7: and we have no plans a TOWRK nuclear for volcanic winter.

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Speaker 2: Nick in your survey, did you ask people what they're

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Speaker 2: most scared of, what sort of math casualty event they're

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Speaker 2: most worried about.

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Speaker 7: No, these were just a few questions in a larger survey,

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Speaker 7: but it did show that people were interested in some

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Speaker 7: type of planning, but also in having a commission or

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Speaker 7: an agency that could monitor and report on these type

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Speaker 7: of risks because some of these risks, their profile is

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Speaker 7: changing quite rapidly. You know, the risk of nuclear war

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Speaker 7: may be going up definitely. The concern about bioengineered pandemics

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Speaker 7: is going up with improvements in biotechnology and artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 7: So we really need to keep our eye on the

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Speaker 7: ball on what's happening so we can be as best

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Speaker 7: prepared as possible.

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Speaker 2: Nick, appreciate your time, Professor at Wilson University of O Target,

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Speaker 2: Department of Public Health. Time is twelve after six News

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Speaker 2: Talk ZB we'll get to Jamie McKay with a ribal update.

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Speaker 3: Next, it's the.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my Heart

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Speaker 2: We'll get to Jamie McKay from the country in just

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Speaker 2: the second first Winston Peter is not mincing his words

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Speaker 2: in a very Winston way. This is how he described

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Speaker 2: his feelings about missing that function host by Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: last night in New York.

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Speaker 32: You don't blow anything, so brother rushed off about it

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Speaker 32: and sorry about that.

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Speaker 3: That's the where life goes.

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Speaker 32: I might be able to make up for a frow girl.

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Speaker 2: It was all the road closures. That's Scott in his way.

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Speaker 3: In this game.

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Speaker 32: With the experience. You you get very good at one oh one.

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Speaker 32: You don't let things go wrong, and it was avoidable.

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Speaker 32: But when you've got hours of traffic jams, you might

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 32: think that's an excuse. But my book, no, you had

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Speaker 32: to get there, so we just didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't make it and not stoked.

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Speaker 32: If I'd have known that that was even a possibility,

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Speaker 32: I have had different arrangements.

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Speaker 2: You might remember that this has actually happened before. He's

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Speaker 2: sort of reflecting on what happened last time.

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Speaker 32: Well, no, but last time we go blocked from even

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 32: leaving the place, because this is an awful place to

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Speaker 32: be in this week in the UN's.

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Speaker 2: Affairs, hoping he can sort something out to actually get

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Speaker 2: some FaceTime maybe or even get him the same room

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Speaker 2: as Donald Trump and those that influence him who traveled

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Speaker 2: with him it's just gone sixteen after six.

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Speaker 3: The Rural Report on hither do for see Allen Drive.

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Speaker 2: Jamie mckaie hosted the Country with Me evening. Jamie good Ay, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: great result for Fonterra today.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, fantastic result. And I heard you talking to Miles

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Speaker 15: Hurrel just after five o'clock. I chatted to him on

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Speaker 15: my show today and yeah, look, it's a great result.

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Speaker 15: Literally every number is good. But I just did a

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Speaker 15: wee bit of interesting homework around the Fonterra co op

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Speaker 15: share price. Now, these are the shares that the farmers

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Speaker 15: have to buy to supply milk to Fonterra. They finished

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01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 15: the day trading at six dollars ten. They were up

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01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 15: ten cents this time. A year ago they were three

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Speaker 15: dollars seventy five. But if you go back to their

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Speaker 15: real low point all time low seventeenth of November twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty three, less than two years ago, they were two

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Speaker 15: dollars and three cents, Meaning in less than two years

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Speaker 15: the price of Fonterra co op shares have gone up

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Speaker 15: by three hundred percent, or exactly three times. Interestingly, when

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 15: I went back further in time, the high of all

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Speaker 15: time for Fonterra shares was way back in May twenty

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Speaker 15: thirteen when they were eight dollars. So I know there's

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Speaker 15: a big vote coming up on October the thirtieth for

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 15: Fonterra Farmer shareholders. They have to make their mind up

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Speaker 15: whether they take the three point two billion dollars from

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 15: the four point two billion they're going to get from

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Speaker 15: the sale, or Fonterra is going to get from the

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Speaker 15: sale off like Talis. But I think pretty much it's

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01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 15: a done deal. That's what I'm hearing anyhow, And some

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Speaker 15: of that money will be used to repay shares. Perhaps

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Speaker 15: some of them Ryan might have even bought their shares

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Speaker 15: and May twenty thirteen at eight dollars, so who knows.

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Speaker 15: But for those who bought them a couple of years

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Speaker 15: ago November twenty twenty three, they've done very well.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, it's interesting reading the results today and kind of

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01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 2: having a harm moment about the fact that their profit

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Speaker 2: was actually down slightly. But then that's because their costs

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Speaker 2: are up because they're buying the milk, which is obviously

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Speaker 2: at very high prices.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, they don't always make more money when the

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Speaker 15: milk price is up because their ingredient is more.

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Speaker 23: I think some of that profit story.

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Speaker 15: They're also paying a week at more tax. But a

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Speaker 15: number that Miles didn't mention to you met. We've got

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Speaker 15: the milk price at ten dollars sixteen, we've got the

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Speaker 15: forecast milk price at ten dollars. But the dividend, Okay,

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Speaker 15: that's the yield they get on their shares. So you

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Speaker 15: buy a share today, you're going to on this year's

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01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 15: on this year's dividend, get a fifty seven cent per

1482
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 15: share dividend fully imputed. That means it's tax paid. It's

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Speaker 15: the equivalent to about seventy nine cents, and that's up

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Speaker 15: from about fifty five cents yesterday. So that is a

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Speaker 15: very good yield on your Fonterra share. If you're a

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Speaker 15: farmer supplying Fonterra, you and I Ryan, and you're paid

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Speaker 15: a lot more than I am because you're a star

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01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 15: at z B, we could go onto the shear market

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Speaker 15: and buy Fonterra shares and the shareholders fund today, Ryan,

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Speaker 15: we should have bought them yesterday. They went from seven

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Speaker 15: to forty five up to seven ninety, up forty five cents,

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01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 15: an increase on six percent, So the market obviously like

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Speaker 15: the Fonterra results today.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely what's not to like? Hey, what's going on? Strong

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: wool actually worth something all of a sudden, Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Suck, horror, Look this is they Look. The arable farmers

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01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 15: are having a wee bit a tough time, and some

1498
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 15: of the horticulture farmers, like the avocado growers, having a

1499
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Speaker 15: bit of a battle as well in some cases. But

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Speaker 15: generally across the board, things are really good. Red meat's good,

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01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 15: dairries really good, Kiwi fruit's good, Apples are good. Strong

1502
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 15: wool has been, you know, has been the naughty child

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 15: if you want of primary sector returns. It's been worth

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01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 15: literally nothing. It's cost you more to share your sheep

1505
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Speaker 15: than you get for your wall check. But today at

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Speaker 15: the South Island sale the strong wall indicator was up

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01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 15: forty six cents. They had a ninety eight percent clearance

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 15: And some of the commentary was interesting from a guy

1509
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 15: by the name of Dave Burrett who's the South Island

1510
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 15: auction manager for PGG Rights, and he said significant global

1511
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 15: shortages of all wall types has prompted levels of demand

1512
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 15: at the Christchurch Wall Exchange not seen in a generation.

1513
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 15: Bidding at times was extreme, with buyers having to fill

1514
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 15: immediate orders into China. A major Australian based wall exporting

1515
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 15: company dominated the floor for most of the fine wall,

1516
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 15: which has been going okay, it's been the strong crossfed

1517
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 15: wall that's been the issue. So happy days for farming today.

1518
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: Ryan, absolutely, although it looks can be deceiving parts of

1519
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 2: the country dealing with the green drought.

1520
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 15: Well that's the beauty of being a farmer. You can't

1521
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 15: control the weather, but you can't control commodity prices, you

1522
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 15: can't control exchange rates. They're all out of your control.

1523
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 15: But yeah, look it's been a bit of a tough

1524
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 15: September for many. It's been cold and wet down south

1525
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 15: where I am on the east coast of both islands,

1526
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 15: like almost from Dunedin north it's getting quite dry. Areas

1527
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 15: like one or two Taranaki especially one or two are

1528
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 15: getting very dry. And it's also been cold, I mean,

1529
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 15: hit by a lot of cold Southwesterlys. So what they're

1530
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 15: kind of having in some places, especially in the North Island,

1531
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 15: is a bit of a green drought. Other parts of

1532
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 15: the country, the further north you go, have had more rain.

1533
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 15: But I just think that's farming you just got to

1534
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 15: take what the weather gods give.

1535
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: You, absolutely and hope for the best. Jamie, thank you.

1536
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: Jamie mckaye hosted the Country with Us twenty two minutes

1537
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: after six News Talks. He'd be we've got some re

1538
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 2: renews next on showbiz think whether.

1539
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 3: It's Macro MicroB or just plain economics.

1540
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and

1541
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: Mars for Insurance Investments and Kili Safer.

1542
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: You're in good hands us Dogs.

1543
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 2: V six twenty four on your six twenty five, I

1544
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: should say, on your Thursday evening, let's get to some showbiz,

1545
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: shall we? Show bears, we have another future NEPO baby

1546
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 2: born today. Rihanna has welcomed her third child.

1547
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 12: It's a girl.

1548
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: Congratulations Rihanna. Her name is Rocky Irish Myers. So let's

1549
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: break this down a little bit. First of all, it's

1550
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 2: Rocky with a not with a y, but with an eye,

1551
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 2: so Rocky with an eye. Also the stage name of

1552
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: her husband asat Rocky, so I guess that's where it's

1553
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 2: come from. We've got a bit of a will and

1554
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: Jada Willow Jaden situation going on here. Irish is where

1555
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: you get a little bit stumped. No one can really

1556
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: explain that one to us. Then there's Myers, which is

1557
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: of course the last name of her husband asat Rocky.

1558
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 2: His real name is rakeem Myers. Rihanna's real name. Bit

1559
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 2: of trivia for you, if you're at the pub quiz

1560
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: is Robin Fenti. I can see why you get rid

1561
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: of Robin, but Fenti's quite cool. Fans very happy that

1562
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: ree Re finally has a baby girl after her two

1563
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: previous kids, Riot and Rizza. Our z a is how

1564
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: it's spelt, so Rizza, Riot and Rocky. They're finally starting

1565
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 2: to accept that she's not going to make an album

1566
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: anytime soon. She's a bit busy now. I'm a bit

1567
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: confused by the R thing because all the babies have

1568
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: ours and the Kardashians do it with the k's. Do

1569
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: you not get your children confused? This is not easier

1570
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: to get your children confused, because I know in one

1571
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 2: of three boys, my mum had enough trouble, you know, Sean,

1572
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean Ryan, You're you know which one's in trouble.

1573
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: And when they're a bit stressed, it's even worse. So

1574
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: if everyone's has do you know, has anyone named their

1575
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 2: kids with the same letter at the stage, it just

1576
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 2: seems to me a very confusing thing to do. You're

1577
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: asking for trouble. Anyway. We'll leave you with some Rihanna

1578
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: as we come up to news when we get back,

1579
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: will look at how far and wide mobile coverage goes

1580
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: in rural New Zealand and get to the UK with

1581
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: ind Brady before Top of the art News TALKSI.

1582
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 21: You're done, you talk, that's why you gave me way

1583
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 21: that your boy and where your do.

1584
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: Everything from SMS to the big corporates, The Business Hour

1585
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and MES for insurance Investments and Hueye

1586
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: safer You're in good hands.

1587
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 3: News Talks d B.

1588
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: Everything New Talks it B. It is twenty five away

1589
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 2: from seven. We'll get to some sheep and beef. Farmer

1590
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: forecast for you in a second. First though, more than

1591
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: a third of farmers say their mobile coverage has actually

1592
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: gotten worse in the past year and it's affecting both

1593
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: their work and their safety. Only fifty seven percent of

1594
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: farmland gets coverage with no improvement since twenty twenty two.

1595
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: Fed Farmer's telecommunications spokesperson Mark Hooper is with me now, Hey, Mark,

1596
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: good evening, were any idea why it's getting worse.

1597
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 33: I would say that that's probably a pretty technical question.

1598
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 25: I mean, it's probably relates to loading capacity and all

1599
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 25: of that sort of thing. But I guess that's.

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01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 33: Probably one of the key takeaways for us is that

1601
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 33: there's obviously some technical challenges in that space. And one

1602
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 33: of the reasons that we ran this survey at this

1603
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 33: point in time is to.

1604
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 25: Get a bit of a baseline. Again, what was a

1605
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 25: check in, because as.

1606
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,520
Speaker 11: He mentioned, this has changed since twenty twenty.

1607
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 33: Two, which we lasted the survey, so that was surprise

1608
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 33: in the first instance, but also coming up in twenty

1609
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 33: six we've got the sunsetting or closure of the three

1610
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 33: Genie group and so potentially it could be lose. So

1611
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 33: we're just trying to get a good handle on what

1612
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 33: the situation is and hopefully look for some technical solutions.

1613
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 2: It's it's quite apt that your line is a little

1614
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: dodgy with us. Mark. Hey, you said thirteen percent still

1615
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: using three G. That's pretty serious stuff because it is

1616
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 2: coming to an end.

1617
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, that's that's right.

1618
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 33: And you know, there's there's both that aspect to it

1619
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 33: in terms of you know, needing to change devices and stuff,

1620
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 33: and perhaps people are still using those older devices because

1621
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 33: they get better coverage from them. But also there's you know,

1622
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 33: there's also the yet to be identified I guess in

1623
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 33: terms of what happens when they're closes down. Does that

1624
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 33: improve the four G five G coverage? Some say yes,

1625
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 33: some say no. So again, technical issues there that have

1626
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 33: to be worked through, and so we're just trying to

1627
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 33: get a bit of a baseline handle on what the

1628
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 33: situation is.

1629
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 2: What about starlink mark Lots of people are texting and

1630
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: saying get starlink.

1631
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:21,480
Speaker 33: Yeah, yeah, And so obviously we've seen a significant improvement

1632
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 33: or uptake there of satellite services.

1633
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 25: And I think I think this kind of plays.

1634
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 33: Into the bigger picture here because on the one hand,

1635
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 33: you've got, as we've seen, relatively patchy and limited cell

1636
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 33: phone coverage in areas, But simultaneously a lot of those

1637
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 33: same people are experiencing or facing the decommissioning of the

1638
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:44,879
Speaker 33: copper network.

1639
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 25: And there's still.

1640
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:51,440
Speaker 33: Forty percent that we're on a using a Copper landline,

1641
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 33: and so that's quite high. Eighty percent of those didn't

1642
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 33: have an alternative in place yet or any idea what

1643
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 33: they're all two it would be. So there's quite a

1644
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 33: transition happened there, and that kind of just escalates the

1645
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 33: concerns I think that people have because you know, they

1646
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 33: look at it and say, well, I've got really poor

1647
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 33: cell phone coverage. Why they're cutting off my comp network.

1648
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 33: Obviously they're different providers, but you know, it just adds

1649
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 33: to that sense of isolation and concern.

1650
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: I totally understand the feeling mark, but is there what

1651
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: do you say to people who will listen to this

1652
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: and go, well, you know you are living really there

1653
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 2: are fewer people. Therefore the investment, you know, from an

1654
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 2: economic perspective, may not just be worth it.

1655
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 33: Yeah, I think if we take a holistic there is

1656
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:48,440
Speaker 33: actually quite a lot of good technology available as replacements,

1657
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 33: particularly for the landline and internet services, and it's inevitable.

1658
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,520
Speaker 25: That change is coming in that space. So that process

1659
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 25: is very much underway.

1660
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 33: It's really of just making sure that people have access

1661
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 33: to good advice, that they can get.

1662
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 34: An independent source of automation, they can understand what their

1663
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 34: options and also you know what the pros and cons are.

1664
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 34: One of the things I guess, just to come back

1665
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 34: to that stale in question.

1666
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 33: You know, one of our concerns is that we've got

1667
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 33: a lot of good small.

1668
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 25: New Zealand based businessess.

1669
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 34: You know, while listen tonet service providers do some really

1670
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 34: good work in our communities and.

1671
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 33: It's easy just to say, yes, starlink does a great job.

1672
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 25: But you know, should I give my one hundred and.

1673
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 34: Fifty nine dollars a month to space?

1674
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: Should try and get it into a local one? Yeah? Hey, Mark,

1675
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: we will have to wrap it up there. Unfortunately, and

1676
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: ironically the line is pretty bad for you. It's Mark

1677
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: Hooper speaking fed Farmer's Telecommunications spokesperson, having trouble with our telecommunications.

1678
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: It is twenty away from seven on News Talks. There

1679
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 2: be lots of people are texting in about one in

1680
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 2: Z and I've heard of this well, we've actually spoken

1681
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: about this on the show before. This person says they

1682
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: could join one en Z. They use starlink for non

1683
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 2: reception zones. It is only text at the moment, so

1684
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: you can Basically it means you can send a text

1685
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: from anywhere, which is good, but eventually it should roll

1686
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: out to calls at some stage as well. Twenty away

1687
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: from seven News Talk SEDB.

1688
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 3: If it's to do.

1689
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: With money, it matters to you the Business Hour with

1690
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and mass for Insurance Convestments and Huey Saber

1691
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: You're in good hands.

1692
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: News Talks EDB seventeen to seven News TALKSB. We'll get

1693
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: to the UK in just a second. Lots of text

1694
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 2: on the rural connectivity and how you make phone calls

1695
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: if you're out the back of a farm. This is

1696
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 2: from a mobile network tower builder. Three G switch off

1697
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 2: when it happens, which is going to be next year,

1698
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: coverage is going to be replaced with four G voice,

1699
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 2: this person says on Starlink on one en Z will

1700
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: be an absolute game changer the call mixers, mobile and

1701
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 2: broadband services. So there you go, let's get to I

1702
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 2: found this really interesting because everyone's saying, well, no, there

1703
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 2: are lots of people saying, what is Winston going to

1704
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: do on the weekend re Palestine or is it just

1705
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 2: a few people. Anyway, he's going to make a statement

1706
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: about Palestine and whether New Zealand will recognize the state

1707
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 2: of Palestine or not. And I am of the mind

1708
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: that he will do the latter and not. I think

1709
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 2: he will do something like and you could do worse

1710
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 2: than what the Singaporean Foreign Minister has said at the

1711
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: UN have a listen.

1712
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 35: Let me step opposition as off today. We will recognize

1713
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 35: the state of Palestine when it has an effective government

1714
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 35: that accepts Israel's right to exist and categorically renounces terrorism.

1715
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: Also some targeted sanctions, not unlike the ones that we

1716
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,919
Speaker 2: have already done.

1717
01:29:56,120 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 35: Singapore will impose targeted sanctions the leaders of radical right

1718
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 35: wing settler groups or organizations that have been responsible for

1719
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 35: acts of violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. If

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Speaker 35: the situation continues the deteriory, or if Israel takes further

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Speaker 35: steps to extinguish a two stage solution, we will reconsider

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Speaker 35: our position on recognizing a Palestinian state.

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Speaker 2: That is the Sorry the Foreign Minister for Singapore talking

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Speaker 2: about Palestine at the UN. It's quarter to seven Ryan

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Speaker 2: Bridge in a Brady Are, UK correspondent with us now

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Speaker 2: in the good evening.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Ryan, good evening to you.

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Speaker 2: So is one of the other room is true or

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01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: not starting going to face a leadership challenge from within

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Speaker 2: the party?

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Speaker 6: I think he is. The rumors have been gathering pace

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01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 6: for a couple of weeks. Now Labor Party conference coming

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01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 6: in a matter of days. Step forward, Andy Burnham. He

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01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 6: is Labor to the core, a former MP. This is crucial.

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Speaker 6: He's not an MP right now. He is mayor of

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01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 6: Manchester and by all accounts he's doing a very very

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01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 6: good job. Now I know Andy Barnum, he's a very

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01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 6: formidable speaker, he's a good communicator in the media and

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01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 6: people like him and he has a big power base

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01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 6: in the North of England. Now he has strategically given

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01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 6: a couple of interviews in the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 6: appointedly saying that the Labor Party is run factionally, that

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01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 6: the leadership is divisive, so a lot of criticism of

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01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 6: Starmer here, and saying that the country needs a plan,

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01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 6: so does the Prime Minister not have a plan? That

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01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 6: is the inference and a lot of people around Starmer

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01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 6: are starting to think that if he doesn't get his

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01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 6: act together, they may not win the next election in

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01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 6: four years time. Now it's not an easy path to

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01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 6: number ten for Andy Burnham. He would have to resign

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01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 6: as mayor with Manchester, he would then have to find

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01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 6: someone to give up their seat so that he could

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01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 6: run and become an MP and then get in that

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01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 6: way and formally challenge.

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Speaker 2: Starmer fascinating stuff. So yeah, yes, you say, very difficult,

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01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: much easier to roll a leader and the Considers than

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01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: it is the libor Paddy Right, So how does it

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01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: all actually work?

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01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, the Conservatives nice people in the back

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01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 6: twenty four to seven. I mean, the well Badenoch will

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01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 6: be gone by Christmas. It is what I'm hearing. And

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01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 6: look it's a it's a different beast. But you've got

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01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 6: the union mechanism as well in Labor. It's yes, it's

1764
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 6: much more difficult to roll out an incumbent leader in

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01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 6: the Labor Party than it is with the Conservatives. But nevertheless,

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01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 6: I think Andy Burnham is making his pitch because I

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01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 6: haven't seen him do any interviews for a few weeks

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01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 6: and out of nowhere, he's all over the front pages today.

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Speaker 2: Interesting stuff. How the parking industry in the UK apparently

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01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 2: quite the employer.

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Speaker 6: Have a guess. Just just just bear with me on

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01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 6: this one, Ryan, How many people do you think are

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01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 6: working as parking wardens in the United Kingdom this morning?

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01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 2: You got a it's an unfair question, We'll have a stab.

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Speaker 6: One hundred thousand, eighty two thousand. I mean, it's absolutely

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01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 6: staggering they've turned it into a four point six billion

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Speaker 6: en Z dollar industry. Think about that four point six

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01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 6: billion dollars this between parking charges and the fines, and

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01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 6: the follow ups and the double ups when you don't

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01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 6: pay the fine on time, it is outrageous. Now, just

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01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 6: to put that figure in context, eighty two thousand people

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01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 6: employed in the parking industry that are currently under seventy

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01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 6: four thousand soldiers in the British Army. There are more

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01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 6: parking wardens than soldiers in a country that has a

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01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 6: permanent seat on the UN Security Council. It is parking mad.

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Speaker 2: Because your population is about seventy million. Yes, I'm just

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01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: trying to think of how most of ours here in

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01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 2: New Zealand are now done by cars. At least in Oakland,

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01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 2: you don't have mini parking wardens at all. It's cars

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01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 2: that have got cameras on them that drive around and

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01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 2: neb you now, And.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, technology, look, we will eventually catch up. But right now,

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01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 6: I guess it's an industry that just keeps making more

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01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 6: and more money. And what really frustrates me is just

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01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,839
Speaker 6: how kind of binary they are. I got a parking

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01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 6: fine a couple of weeks ago. I'd ended up doing

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01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 6: a double shift because a colleague went ill and I

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01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 6: had to stay in the studio. I park in the

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01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 6: same and this is all paid for byapp and it's

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01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 6: eighteen dollars to park there. And I park in the

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01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 6: same parking spot at the same time in the same

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01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 6: car park every day of the week. And don't tell

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01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 6: me the tech You know that they couldn't just say, oh,

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01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 6: this is a loyal customer here, not one hundred and

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01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 6: twenty dollars fine two days later.

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Speaker 2: Oh that hurts. Hey, how much is the government giving

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01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: foreign criminals who volunteer for deportation?

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01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 6: Would you believe this? Four thousand dollars pre loaded onto

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01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 6: a banking cart as they leave the United Kingdom? Now

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01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 6: this has been confirmed by the new Home Secretary, should

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01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 6: ban my mood says that on the face of it, it

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01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 6: doesn't look good giving criminals four thousand dollars or two

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01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 6: thousand pounds to go, she said, but if you'd look

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01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 6: into the money figures, keeping them in jail for a

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01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 6: year is costing about one hundred thousand dollars. So her

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01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 6: idea and what the government is doing is that once

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01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 6: they've served three months of a sentence. If they agree

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Speaker 6: to be deported, they will be led out early and

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01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 6: then put on a flight back to say a country

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Speaker 6: like Romania or Albania, and given four thousand dollars pre

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01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 6: loaded on a bankyard on the proviso that you know

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Speaker 6: you're out and you ain't coming back.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that. Goodness mate in the thank you

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01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 2: in the Brady a UK correspondent, and everyone wants to

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Speaker 2: leave New Zealand great place. It's ten to seven News

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Speaker 2: Talk zimb It's.

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Speaker 1: The hitherto per Se Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: Out to seven News Talk Zibby. We've done enough about

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01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: deary today, so let's get to shaping beef shaven by

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01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 2: FAMI is forecasting an average profit of one hundred and

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01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 2: sixty six thousand this year. This compeares to just eighteen thousand,

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01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 2: nine hundred they got two years ago. Last year it

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Speaker 2: was up to one hundred and thirty eight thousand, six

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Speaker 2: hundred on average, the profit before tax rising another twenty

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Speaker 2: percent this year. Sheep and beef farms expected to generate

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01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 2: seven point two billion on farm value this season alone.

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01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: Estimated fifteen million is spent on goods and services every day.

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01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 2: This is your fencing contractors, your sharers, your vets, your

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01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 2: machinery dealers, all of that stuff that keeps rural New

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01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Zealand going spend. Will see a boom for small town

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01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 2: South Island businesses, in particular in these roles. Beef and lamb.

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01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 2: New Zealand forecasting ten and a half billion in red

1844
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 2: meat exports this season plus two billion from co products,

1845
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 2: which is great news all round, great news from rural

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01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 2: New Zealand on all fronts. Even wool today so very good.

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01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: It is seven away from seven. Joe Rogan on his

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01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 2: podcast over in the US, come out because there's a

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01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 2: lot of people who and Joe, you'd probably say leans

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01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 2: to the right. A lot of people, I'm great, have

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01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 2: come out and said the Jimmy Kimmel canceled mob is ridiculous,

1852
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 2: and you can't have it both ways. Either your full

1853
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 2: free speech or you're not full free speech.

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Speaker 36: First of all, I definitely don't think that the government

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01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 36: should be involved ever in dictating what a comedian counter

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01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 36: cannot say in a monologue. And if people on the

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01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 36: right are like, yeah, go get them, oh my god,

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01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 36: you're crazy You're crazy for supporting this because this will

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01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 36: be used on.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't agree more. Six to seven. Let's check him

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01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 2: with Libby. What are we going out to tonight? Libby?

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Speaker 37: This is going to make some people feel very old,

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01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 37: but I'm taking us out on a bit of Muse

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01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 37: with their supermassive black hole because it was featured in

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01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 37: the Twilight movie and Twilight the book turns twenty years

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01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 37: old today.

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Speaker 2: Right, so I'm feeling old about that. I didn't think

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01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 2: it's Twilight, the one with Robin Robert Pattison.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 37: No, he's in the movie.

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Speaker 2: So that was twenty years ago.

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Speaker 37: The book was twenty years ago. Did you read the book?

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Speaker 2: Didn't read the book? Didn't see the film?

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01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: I'm not into that stuff. It's some sort of were wolf,

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01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: isn't it? Or vampires? Yeah? Okay, so twenty years old.

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Speaker 2: The book today, and Muse for your Thursday evening.

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Speaker 12: We'll see you tomorrow.

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