1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: On the huddle of Me this evening, we have Ali Jones, 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Red pr and Tim Wilson of the Maximums Jude Hire 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: you two, Hi, go what do you make Ali of 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: Rawdi holding up the noose in the house. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: It's incredibly inflammatory and absolutely and totally unnecessary. I'm actually 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: sick to death of it. I was thrilled to hear 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: Chris Bishop stand up and say let's get on with it. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: I really do think this just needs to be sorted. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: But it's a bit like kindergarten, isn't it. I mean, 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: if you want to change the rules in the sandpit, 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: then do it from the sandpit and from within the 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: systems that are there, and stop behaving like performing children. 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: It feels to me like what they're trying to do, Tim, 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: is they are desperate to keep this going and being 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: as controversial as possible. And actually the steam has been 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: taken out of the thing completely by the delay that 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: happened before the budget, by the fact that Bishop's not there, 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Chippy's not there, Brownie's not there, David Symol's not there. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: It's just kind of a bit to day, isn't it. 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think yeah, it's interesting that I think 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: the irony there too is the measure that is attempting 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: to enforce rules and create order has produced so much 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: toddlerish behavior. I mean even Winston with the you know, 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: the remark about ra scribbles on your face. Come on, Winston, 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: you're eighty, you're not eight. 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: When did he do that? 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: This? This was earlier in the debate. 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Oh was it okay? 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: So he too? 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Right here? Well, the whole thing just feels like it's 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: the steam's taken out of it. So we'll just let 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 1: them run their course through to six o'clock? 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: Should we just drop it it? Let's just drop it now. 34 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: That's I would if I could. I mean, you know, 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: let's cut it off at six and be finished with it. 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: Eli. 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: I still feel confused about why the police didn't charge 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: that chap from the Prime Minister's office with being a 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: peeping tom. 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think we're police. We're not criminal experts, 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: legal experts. I don't know what that bar is to 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: reach the you know, the required level for criminality in 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: order to take a prosecution. 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Shouldn't and talk about it? 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: Then? 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Do you think? 47 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: Well? 48 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think there are two really important things here. Firstly, 49 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: I mean whether it didn't reach the standard or whatever 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: those standards are. No one seems to have been really 51 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: talking about the imbalance of power here. You know, this 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: is another issue of women being in a position where 53 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: they are being taken advantage of by someone a man 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: in a far, far more senior position. I also think 55 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: when I looked at that guy, I thought you are 56 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: a dick. There are so many people working in Wellington 57 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: in politics doing a damn good job, working very very hard. 58 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: Why the hell should you get away with behaving like this? 59 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: And the other thing is how on earth did this not? 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Was this not on the Police commissioner at the Times radar? 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: And why was it not fed through to Parliament? 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: Well? Was it? 63 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Though not on his radar? I mean, I feel like 64 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm hearing conflicting stories behind the scenes. I'm hearing actually 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: that he had been told and that there is paper 66 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: trail showing he had been told. 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: Well he has come out today. Well then you know 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: more than I. But I understand that he's come out today. 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: And he said that he did not know about it, 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: and he first heard about it in the last twenty 71 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: four hours. 72 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: So what is he lying? Well, I wouldn't I wouldn't 73 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: lay that accusation. But maybe he's just not checking his emails. 74 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: You know, I don't I can I say, Can I 75 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: say something that will maybe bring us all together and 76 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: maybe even the toddlers in the house. Can we say, 77 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: can we agree that filming pervy videos and supermarkets? Can 78 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: we actually make that a crime? Do you mind if 79 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: we actually make that a crime? I think you know, 80 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: and I've got a. 81 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Perfect part to come on, how do you make that 82 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: a crime? 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: Well, you just decided it's a crime. 84 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Decide what's pervy or not. Because what yours pervy to 85 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: you is artistic. 86 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: To someone out. 87 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: I might see that picking your nose, and I might 88 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: be like, oh, look that's Tim Wilson from the Huddle 89 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: is picking his nose. Let me take a video. And 90 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: then you might say, oh, she's being a perverse. 91 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: Well, well, well it would be it would be unnecessary. 92 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Second part of your argument, please. 93 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: The second part of that is, you see what we 94 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: could do is for a punishment, we could have the stocks. 95 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Now call me old fashioned, but it would be cost 96 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: effective to be public shame and that would take care 97 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: of all of this stuff quite readily. 98 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm for that. I'm for that. 99 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: There we go, I knew. Thank you Ellie, Thank you Heather. 100 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: You want to put people in the stocks? 101 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you not? Do you not? Let's bring back 102 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: let's bring back public shame. I think necessary. 103 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: Let's only do the stocks in the summer when tomatoes 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 2: are cheap. 105 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Listen to him. 106 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: I think I agree. 107 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: The point of the stocks was what public humiliation? 108 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 109 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Do you not think that we've achieved that? 110 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: Oh? I think I think that's publicly. Yeah. 111 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: If I was Michael Forbes, do you not feel like 112 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: this Michael Forbes is going to have to change his 113 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: name and go work in the mines, isn't he? 114 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: I think he is. And I think probably a positive 115 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: in this is that the extraor that the horror at 116 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: at these actions, this behavior, and that that's a good thing. 117 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we expect more from our leaders and from 118 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: the people that served them, and mostly the people that 119 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: served them work very hard to do so. 120 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I can I ask you a question, though, Tim, 121 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: This is the thing that I'm not decided on yet. 122 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Does this reflect badly on the Prime Minister's office, on 123 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the wider National Party or do people see this as 124 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: just a Michael Forbes problem? 125 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what, I could see. I guess, yeah, 126 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: I was thinking about that and whether that you know, 127 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: it's it's indicative of anything. At the moment, We've just 128 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: got one person who has this has this sort of 129 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: industrial campaign of pervery. If we had a few more, 130 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: I think, I think that you could see a trend. 131 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: But at the moment, it's just it seems to be 132 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: one I don't know outlier I would certainly hope. 133 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: So, yeah, all right, we'll take a break, come back 134 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: to you guys shortly. Tim. Have you seen that West 135 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Gold the butter people raise their prices after the fundraisers 136 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: the Kiddi's fundraisers went too hard? 137 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I just I could not believe it. 138 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: Why not? 139 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: I mean, well, you've created a scheme to help charities, 140 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: and then when it's really really successful, you decide to 141 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: penalize the charities by raising the price to the bar. 142 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a marketing opportunity of a lifetime. It's 143 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: publicity money couldn't buy. And I blinded up. 144 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, I mean what I think has 145 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: happened yet, Allie, is that they've initially priced the butter 146 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: too low, haven't they? I mean four dollars for a 147 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: block of West Colt. Butter is clearly too low. 148 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: No it's not. And I actually got not sucked into. 149 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: This is where my maths should be better. So I 150 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: ordered one hundred and what was it, eight hundred and 151 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: sixty dollars worth of the butter right so that I 152 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: thought they were five hundred grand blocks because for yeah, 153 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: I know, four dollars a block. 154 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: I thought that's a bloody steal. 155 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: That is there about ten dollars in the shops anyway, 156 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: Then they were two hundred and fifty grams, so I 157 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: halved my order. I'm sorry, I just couldn't afford the 158 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty. So I've halved the order. But 159 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm through to support them, and I would keep doing 160 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: this and I would rather buy my butter this way 161 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: if it helped the school. And I got my butter. 162 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: It is cheaper than the supermarket here there, And I 163 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: totally agree with him. 164 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: What the hell do you need one hundred and sixty 165 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: dollars worth of butter? 166 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: Don't? 167 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: I haven't ibe he's not listening to this on the 168 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: way now we're on a no butter, no fat diet 169 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: on the moment. 170 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: My goodness, no, not Actually you know what this is. 171 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: This is a brilliant fundraising because here's the deal. Costco 172 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: butter is ten bucks of kilo, so that's one buck 173 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: one hundred gram. So I'm as as the head of Maxim, 174 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: which is a charity, Maxim Institute's charity. I'm going to 175 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: go down to Costco, spend a bit of dough and 176 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: start flogging butter in the same way. 177 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: In order to raise money for MAXIM. Absolutely, I know 178 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: someone who would spend a lot of money on that butter, 179 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: and it's Ally Allie. I still don't understand. I can't 180 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: understand why you're spending one hundred and sixty dollars on 181 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: butter when you're on a diet that doesn't let you 182 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: eat it. 183 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Because I'm going to put it in the freezer and 184 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: I'll come off the diet soon and people come and visit, 185 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: and I like to bake for people. 186 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: There's always a reason. 187 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: But also I thought I could help, you know, I'm 188 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: supporting the school Leaffield School. I thought i'd support them 189 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: and get slightly cheaper but free yeah, oh yes, cheese butter. 190 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: You can't freeze toilet rolls. I just put them on 191 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: a cupboard. 192 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: But you've got some and I think Alice's got some 193 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: explaining to do once when she gets home, of course 194 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: he is. 195 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the number of children you've 196 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: got going on at the moment, Tim, you might need 197 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: to get into this as well. Have you ever heard 198 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: of the Strava running aptom? 199 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: Well, I hadn't until I realized that you can douce 200 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: it somehow hack it to tell lies. It's like cheating 201 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: when you're playing solitaire. 202 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous because you're only cheating yourself. 203 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: Is that what you mean, Well, well, that's it. I mean, 204 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: I think a much better way is to strap the 205 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: Strava app to your kids feet and send them out 206 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: running and then they can do it. That's that's what 207 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: we do with four kids. That's how. That's how you. 208 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: You don't need a Strava app is because you have 209 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: full kids, so you're basically running all the time. Have 210 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: you ever heard of the Yeah? 211 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: I have. 212 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: I'm delivering delivering fliers at the moment for my role 213 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: on the city council here on the community board, and 214 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: a girlfriend who's helping me actually showed me her delivery 215 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: path by showing me the Strava app. So I've loaded it, 216 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: but I can't make it work. But one thing I 217 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: wanted to say quickly, the footbit app. You can cheat 218 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: the footbit if you go to the theater, a live theater, 219 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: and you clap, or you do lots of ironing, you 220 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: can increase your steps hugely. Ironing and clapping as steps. 221 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Yes, because of course it's the motion. Also, this is 222 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: one of the failures, isn't it. Of you know, the 223 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: smart watch is reading your sleep because if you're just 224 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: lying dead still, you could be wide awake and be 225 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: dreaming of how much you like spend on your butter, 226 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: just lying there withinsomnia. But as long as your arm's 227 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: not moving, it thinks you're sleeping, isn't it? 228 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: Can you forget that about the butter? 229 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: No? I wonder if we're going to just start to 230 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: distrust everything digital because it's possible to you know, you've 231 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: got deep fakes, you've got AI producing posts on LinkedIn 232 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: that read like their posts produced by AI, and now 233 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: you can hack Strava. I think if it doesn't actually 234 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: happen in front of our noses, we're going to think, no, 235 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: this didn't happen. 236 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: We should have a healthy distrust shouldn't we guys, Thank 237 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: you very much, Ellie Jones read pr Tim Wilson Maximus 238 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: as to, yeah, so, what's what's happened is that read 239 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: the Strava app. It works the same as like Matt 240 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: My Run or any of those things, but there't There's 241 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: another app called Fake my Run, in which you can 242 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: basically pretend you can make it makes it look like 243 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: you've done the run, and then you can load that 244 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: onto your Strava app and then all your friends will go, oh, wow, 245 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: look at how far you've run. Wow, you're amazing, You're great, 246 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: But you haven't actually done it at all. And anyway, 247 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: I think just apropos what Tim was saying about distrusting 248 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: digital stuff. I have a smart watch, but I worry 249 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: about my smart watch because I worry a little bit, 250 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: ever so slightly. Obviously not enough to take it off, 251 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: but I worry ever so slightly about what's going to 252 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: happen with this data because one day is the insurance 253 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: company going to look at it and go, yeah, well, 254 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: we're not going to pay for your hearing aids when 255 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: you're sixty five, because look at look at how many 256 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: times your smart watch told you it's too noisy, and 257 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: you just went dismissed, dismissed, dismissed, dismissed, dismiss and you 258 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: stayed where it was noisy. You had a warning and actually, no, 259 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: we've seen what you did. That's what I'm worried about. 260 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: And what really worries me is that the shower sets 261 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: it off. Does you'll set it off because I'm in 262 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: the shower and it's like, sh it's very noise. It's 263 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: too noisy in here. Well, I can't get around that, 264 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: can I. So it's lying. And when the insurance company 265 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: ruins my life by not paying for my thing because 266 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: of the data, it'll be because it got it wrong. 267 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: For more from hither Duplassy Allen Drive, listen live to 268 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: news talks. 269 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 270 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.