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Speaker 1: Dan Mitchinson, US corresponding with US Now, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Oh, I'm sorry. I was just looking at this

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Speaker 2: real estate site and scrolling through there.

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Speaker 1: Do you do? Do you do the property pool as well?

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Speaker 2: I do? I have to admit I really do like

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Speaker 2: going on and looking at places all over the world.

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Speaker 1: What is the endowment that you look for in a house?

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Speaker 1: What do you do you? What do you get excited about?

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Speaker 2: Coziness, A place with a good garden and a place

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Speaker 2: for a nice little library.

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Speaker 1: I want to pool and like one of those little

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Speaker 1: outdoor settings where you have like a sheltered barbecue, like

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Speaker 1: an unbuilt barbecue, with a dining room sized table outside.

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Speaker 1: And now you know you're a baller if you've got

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Speaker 1: a table outside that's big enough to have your entire

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Speaker 1: extended family next to the pool. You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: Ah, it sounds nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Actually that was pretty good, wasn't it. Hey? Listen,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump not wanting a second debate. That's pretty clearly

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Speaker 1: because he lost the last one.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think so. I mean, despite what he's saying,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are Republicans who are saying he should

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Speaker 2: go after Harris with another one and improve that maybe

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Speaker 2: the last debate was a fluke for Harris. Maybe it was,

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, and maybe Trump was just you know,

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Speaker 2: not on his game. But I mean, today, he wrote

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Speaker 2: on social media, he wrote, when a prize fighter loses

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Speaker 2: the fight, the first words out of his mouth are

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Speaker 2: I want a rematch. And he shaid, you know, he said,

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Speaker 2: the polls show that he won the de bait. Well,

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Speaker 2: the polls didn't show that. And just because you say

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Speaker 2: it's true doesn't make it true. But we know that

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what politicians you know, do, and especially

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Speaker 2: hit Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, what do you think is is is it

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Speaker 1: a spot move from him to rule this out?

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Speaker 2: Boy? I don't know. I don't think so. At this point,

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Speaker 2: I would think it would be a smarter move for

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris not to do it. Why she hit the

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Speaker 2: ball out of the park this time?

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Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, she did not Dan, she was

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Speaker 1: she was critible, But it wasn't that.

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Speaker 2: Exciting for Kamala Harris To me, that was hitting the

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Speaker 2: ball out of the park. I went in with almost

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Speaker 2: zero expectations. I think a lot of people did, and

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Speaker 2: to see her come out as well as she did

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Speaker 2: I would be hard pressed to see her do that twice.

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Speaker 1: Why why did you have such low expectations of her?

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Speaker 1: Is she so boring to you? Guys?

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Speaker 2: I think she just is not great at public speaking.

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Speaker 2: And I mean you look at her, you know, talking

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Speaker 2: to crowds, and the fact that she doesn't give a

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Speaker 2: lot of interviews, and when she does, you're trying to

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Speaker 2: make sense of what it is that she's saying. Again,

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Speaker 2: the same could be said of former President Trump. All

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Speaker 2: other times you're like, he's off on a tangent. Where

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Speaker 2: is he going with? I'm lost? Look at the shiny

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Speaker 2: object you see.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you why she didn't. Why from where

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Speaker 1: we're sitting in our part of the world, why it

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Speaker 1: didn't feel to me like she hit it out of

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Speaker 1: the park. It's because she did not match the hype

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Speaker 1: around her. So Obama was hyped, and then when he spoke,

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Speaker 1: he was as good as the hype. I would even

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Speaker 1: say this of our Agisanda Ardurt, and she was hyped,

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Speaker 1: and when she speaks, not anything else, but when she

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Speaker 1: speaks publicly, her speaking is as good as her hype.

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Speaker 1: But with Karmala, the hype is way up there and

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Speaker 1: when she speaks, she does not match it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you bring up a good point. I think that's

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Speaker 2: why the Harris campaign is trying to downplay this, not

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Speaker 2: only what happened the other night, but I think also,

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Speaker 2: you know, the polls that show her leading Trump were

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Speaker 2: at least very close to him, and the earlier projections

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Speaker 2: that the results in November are going to I think

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Speaker 2: amount to just such a razor thin margin of who

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Speaker 2: wins and who doesn't in this So I think they're

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Speaker 2: really trying to downplay anything that she does that looks

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Speaker 2: like it's above what we were expecting.

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Speaker 1: Well so are they. Are they speaking to the media

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Speaker 1: and telling people to calm their farms?

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Speaker 2: Basically yes, but again, speaking to the media, that's one

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Speaker 2: thing that Harris is not doing one on and that's

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Speaker 2: still something that's annoying everybody.

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Speaker 1: Does that say to you though, if that tempering, if

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Speaker 1: her team is tempering expectations behind the scenes that they

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Speaker 1: realize this is not going to lead to a massive,

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Speaker 1: like a mass of movement in the polls.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because I think what we're talking about

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Speaker 2: are maybe a couple of one hundred thousand people. I

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Speaker 2: think that that could swing this election in a number

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Speaker 2: of states and key states here. And but again, those

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Speaker 2: who are for Harris are for Harris that this debate

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Speaker 2: did not change their minds. The same with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I can't remember the last time it's probably

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Speaker 2: been at least over a decade since I think we

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Speaker 2: had any kind of presidential debate that was a big

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Speaker 2: swing for voters one way or the other. But you know,

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Speaker 2: a few hundred thousand people, that's all it takes to

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Speaker 2: really swing an election like this. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Hey, so apparently more women in the states of

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Speaker 1: getting their tubes tied at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, and this is because of the Roe v.

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Speaker 2: Wade that was overturned, the decision a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: On the studies showing that they're seeing the biggest increases

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Speaker 2: in states that ban abortion. About five million women got

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Speaker 2: their tubes tied and in dozens of states around here.

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Speaker 2: And the sectomies are also on the rise in a

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Speaker 2: lot of these states too, for guys. So it's not

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Speaker 2: just women who are making this decision, but also men,

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Speaker 2: or maybe it's the women who are making the decision

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Speaker 2: for those men and they're just you know, going along

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Speaker 2: saying Okay, you did this, I'm going to do this too.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Hi Dan, Thank you very much. Dan Mitchison now

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