1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: There's meetings in Moscow. Putin has spoken. He says he 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: supports the ceasefire, but he sees a whole lot of 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: other stuff. We're joined now by Vincent mcavinie. Hello, Vincent, 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: good morning. What's going down. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 2: Well, we're having to decrip what exactly Vladimir Putin means. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: In the past twenty four hours, he's visited the Cursek 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: region of Russia, which has been held for several months 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: by Ukrainian forces, but they seem to be struggling to 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: keep the territory. Putin appeared very rarely for him, addressed 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 2: in military uniform, saying that now Russia had control of 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: its own territory. This was thought to be a sort 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: of key bargaining chip that Zelensky had in negotiations for 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: territory which Russia controls. Now, what we've heard in this 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: press conference, we know that this US envoy, having got 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: agreement from the Ukrainian team, was on its way to Moscow. 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Putin has said that he agrees with peace proposal, but 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: says it needs to lead to an enduring peace. There 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: was some sort of diplomatic circus sire acts going on 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: in this press conference talking about the need to make 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: sure the underlying causes of the crisis are resolved for 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: that enduring peace. So it'll be up to the Trump 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: team to try to unpick what exactly that means. But 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: for now, the bombardment between the two nations continues, big 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 2: strikes on Moscow this week by the Ukrainians. 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: It's such a process, isn't it this. You have to 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: negotiate the negotiations, then you have to negotiate a ceasefire, 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: and then you can go and negotiate possible lasting peace. 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Is Putin asking for too much too soon? 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: Well, I think he feels pretty emboldened at this point. 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: He's drawn barely a word of condemnation from the Trump 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: administration versus the treatment that Presidents Lensky and the Ukrainians 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: have faced. That's always worth reistrating that if Vladimir Putin 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: wanted to end this today tomorrow, he could do. He 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: could pull his forces out. It was his fault. He 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: invaded the territory, it was an act of war. They've 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: committed war crimes in the territory. So every once peace, 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: he could simply pull his troops back. But he's not 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: doing that. So we'll see where this goes now. 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Now, I meanwhile, Donald Trump has written the EU with 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: a two hundred percent tariff. It's a big number. It's 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: on alcohol. 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So the EU was hit earlier in 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: this week by the latest round of Trump tariffs are 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: particularly on steel and aluminium are twenty five percent tariff. 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: They got hit by that, so they have struck back 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: with sort of retaliatory tariffs, but particularly citing sort of 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: US goods. So those were for instance, Harley Davidson motorbikes 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: and Bourbon of course, which is you know, American whiskey. 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: So the Donald Trump has now sort of responded to 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: that particular front, saying he's going to put a two 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: hundred percent tariff on alcohol from EU countries and of 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: course that will be you know, wines from France and Italy, 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: champagne as well spirits. I mean, it would be absolutely 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: drastic to the prices of those products which are big 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: EU exports. But also there is you know, high demand 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: and great love for in America as well. 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, And I thank you for your time today, 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Vincent McAvennie. 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: to news Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.