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Speaker 2: Yo, New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Jacktane with you through the midday today. You might notice

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Speaker 2: my voice just sounds a little bit, you know, a

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Speaker 2: little bit right now. Don't you worry about that. I'm

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Speaker 2: being fueled at the moment by David Seymour's special The

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Speaker 2: Old Pseudo Effor Dream. Its actually the first time I've

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Speaker 2: had it since it's been brought back, the first kind

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Speaker 2: of cold that has warranted a bit of pseudo, and

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Speaker 2: my goodness, it does make a difference. It's not like

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Speaker 2: one of those kind of you know, you know how

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Speaker 2: medicines that you feel like they do nothing. Not the

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Speaker 2: pseudo effortdream. You sort of you can feel like pumping

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Speaker 2: through your veins, can't you? Anyway? Big show for you

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Speaker 2: this morning. A feature interview after ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 2: two of the lead dancers from Back Gray Black Grace

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Speaker 2: are going to be in studio with us before ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We're going to tell you about the Last Mission Impossible,

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Speaker 2: Film Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning Tom Cruise of course

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Speaker 2: doing all his own stunts in that. Plus will countdown

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Speaker 2: to walk and FC's second leg of their A League

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Speaker 2: semi final right now that it's eight minutes past nine,

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Speaker 2: check team. And it's one of those sort of one

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Speaker 2: of the curious things about the structure of modern liberal democracies,

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Speaker 2: whether it's share markets, or political cycles or even media coverage. Actually,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the big forces that shape our society,

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Speaker 2: that kind of shape our world, are influenced by short

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Speaker 2: term incentives and it gets us into all sorts of pickles. So,

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Speaker 2: for example, take three waters right in the crisis with

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Speaker 2: water infrastructure in New Zealand. The main reason we find

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Speaker 2: ourselves with a vast infrastructure deficit is because for decades

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Speaker 2: heaps of local councils haven't properly invested in maintaining the pipes.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't they invest, Well, it was simple. Investment takes money,

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Speaker 2: and money means rates, and with woefull levels of engagement

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Speaker 2: with local body elections, big rates increases and pledges to

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Speaker 2: spend millions of dollars on water infrastructure that no one

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Speaker 2: could see or appreciate. Well, those weren't exactly vote winners.

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Speaker 2: Counselors who wanted to be re elected have been incentivized

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Speaker 2: to defer spending for the future someone else's problem. Predictably,

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Speaker 2: of course, the problem snowballed. I think we risk the

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Speaker 2: same thing with our aging population and the future of

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Speaker 2: superannuation in New Zealand. We know that in a few

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Speaker 2: short years, as more baby boomers retire, the cost of superannuation,

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Speaker 2: government books. Treasury has been warning about it for ages

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Speaker 2: for yoonks. Now there are going to be fewer of

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Speaker 2: us of working age supporting more of us who are retired.

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Speaker 2: And yet since the advent of Key we Save It,

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Speaker 2: there have been very few big steps to address the

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Speaker 2: fast approaching meteorite. I'm pleased this week to see the

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Speaker 2: government move on Key we Save for contributions. I think

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Speaker 2: it's well overdue and although yep, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a burden for a lot of businesses, at least in

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Speaker 2: the short term. I would personally support steps that encourage

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Speaker 2: a much greater rate of retirement saving for the future.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. It kind of occurs to me

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Speaker 2: that a massively underrated component in the Australia versus New

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Speaker 2: Zealand equation is superannuation. We always talk about wages, but

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Speaker 2: just think about the differences in super between the two countries.

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Speaker 2: So saving for super is compulsory in Australia for starters,

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Speaker 2: but not only are wages higher across the ditch. In

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Speaker 2: six weeks, the compulsory employer rate for superannuation goes to

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Speaker 2: twelve percent. We're slowly stepping it from three to four.

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Speaker 2: The Aussies are at twelve.

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Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting we instantly introduced a twelve percent rate here.

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Speaker 2: interesting to note that in Australia, for most workers, the

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. In the next few decades, Australians are

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Speaker 2: seven years right. I have no expectation that superannuation in

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Speaker 2: feels inevitable to me that I'm going to be paying

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Speaker 2: sixty five. Then I do find one thing about the

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Speaker 2: government's move this week really curious. So they've opened the

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Speaker 2: door to means testing key WE Saver. Those who earn

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Speaker 2: won't receive the government contribution. Now, I don't personally claim

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Speaker 2: to know what the best solution is, but there are

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Speaker 2: going to be many working New Zealanders wondering if means

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Speaker 2: testing key WE Saber benefits is acceptable, why shouldn't superannuation

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Speaker 2: be means tested? Jack Too, ninety two ninety two is

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Speaker 2: the text number if you want to send us some

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Speaker 2: message this morning, you can email me as well. Jacket

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Speaker 2: past night and oh Jack Tame, it's Saturday morning and

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your messages this morning, Peter

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Speaker 2: says Jack means testing Super Your lefty eat the rich

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Speaker 2: attitude is showing again. Peter. I'm not a lefty eat

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Speaker 2: the richer. But let me ask you this. If you

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Speaker 2: think the means testing super is eating the rich, what

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Speaker 2: do you think of means testing key we saver? Isn't

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Speaker 2: that the same thing? If you're earning more than one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty grand a year and you're no longer

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Speaker 2: getting the government contribution that everyone else is getting, isn't

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Speaker 2: that also eating the rich?

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Speaker 4: Peter?

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Speaker 2: Jack good morning, good editorial, says another Peter. We do

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Speaker 2: really need to have a conversation about raising the age

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Speaker 2: of superannuation as well. I guess that's not going to

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Speaker 2: happen so long as Winston Peters is anywhere near power,

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Speaker 2: I mean it is. I'm not saying that we definitely

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Speaker 2: have to means test SUPER. I'm not saying that we

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Speaker 2: definitely have to raise the age of Super. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and am open to suggestions as to what the best

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Speaker 2: policy decisions, the worse it's going to be. The more

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Speaker 2: the problem is going to snowball. If you want to

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Speaker 2: send this message, ninety two ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget the standard text cost supply. If you're doing that,

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Speaker 2: you can email me as well. Jacket Newstook ZB dot

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Speaker 2: co dot NZ, Kevin Milne as with us this morning, Kildo,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Cilder Jack.

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Speaker 5: You know you know my thoughts about means testing super.

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Speaker 5: I'd been raving about for years. It needs to take place.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think you're talking about you know when

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Speaker 5: you will get super. You should never get super. You'll

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Speaker 5: never need it. Yeah, neither do Why And I get it,

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Speaker 5: but I don't think I think it ought to be

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, so it's interesting. So I think here we save.

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Speaker 2: It was came into effect in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 2: which is about when I started. I think I started

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Speaker 2: working full time in about two thousand and seven, so

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of the perfect guinea pig for a for

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Speaker 2: a key we saver. And I think I contribute five percent,

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Speaker 2: so I contribute slightly more than the minimum, but it

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Speaker 2: is you know, it's going to be interesting over the

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Speaker 2: next couple of decades to compare my superannu superannuation savings

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Speaker 2: with the generation before me, but also like a generation

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Speaker 2: it would be it would be to save more than

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Speaker 2: three or four percent, save more than the bare minimum.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't think anyone under you know, under forty

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Speaker 2: today has any great expectation that superannuation is going to

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Speaker 2: many years by the time we get to retirement age. No,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, anyway, Hey, given you want to celebrate

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, there's the saying Jack.

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Speaker 5: Isn't it that if you know precisely what job you'd

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Speaker 5: like to have, you will one day get it. This

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Speaker 5: isn't just to say I want to be a lawyer

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Speaker 5: or some other broad category. You need to be able

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Speaker 5: or perhaps more difficult, I want to be the senior

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Speaker 5: that the first newsleander into space is likely to be

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Speaker 5: christ Church aerospace entrepreneur Mark Rocket. Mark went further than

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Speaker 5: just knowing what he wanted to do. He changed his

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Speaker 5: name to it. It would be like me as a

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Speaker 5: teenager changing my name to Kevin Radio or Kevin Carpett,

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Speaker 5: or you Jack to Jack Media.

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Speaker 6: I think I think Jack Media sounds.

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Speaker 2: Quite Yeah, it's an option.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway, Now, Mark Rocket's book to become the first

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Speaker 5: New Zealander to go into space on board a Blue

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Speaker 5: There's nothing new to naming yourself, of course, after what

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Speaker 5: you do. Many of, if not most, of our surnames

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Speaker 5: say something about our four bear's job. If your milm

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Speaker 5: like I am, someone at the start of that lineage

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Speaker 5: was a miller, probably a carpet miller. All the smiths

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Speaker 5: were once blacksmiths or silversmiths or some other kind of smoody.

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Speaker 6: Jack more a bit more difficult.

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Speaker 5: In your case, you'll no doubt claim you come from

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Speaker 5: a lineage of famous lions.

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Speaker 6: Quite a few politicians would go along with that. I

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Speaker 6: think you what do you yeah? I mean, where does

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Speaker 6: where does Tame come from? Do you know?

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Speaker 2: So my understanding is that it's because my dad's from Birmingham.

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Speaker 2: I think it's from Thames, from the from the River Thames,

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Speaker 2: and that it become Tame as a result of Thames.

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Speaker 2: But it's one of these things, like I it's an

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Speaker 2: unusual name. And in New Zealand, you know, my whole life,

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Speaker 2: people have said, oh, Jack Tummy, and I've said, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, yep, that doesn't upset me at all. I

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Speaker 2: like a bit of Jack Tummy. But actually my dad's

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Speaker 2: from Birmingham, so no, But you know, if it were

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Speaker 2: Jack Wilde. My gosh, I just feel like i'd I

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Speaker 2: would have had a completely different life, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and there is Jack wild isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are somewhere. Well, yeah, there was, unfortunately

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Speaker 2: for me. I don't know if you've ever seen the

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Speaker 2: Anchorman movies, Kevin, Yes, so that they're about the sort

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Speaker 2: of silly comedies about about a guy who's a TV

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Speaker 2: news and command and in Ang Command two there is

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you're so right about Mark Rockett.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, Yes, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Jack, I didn't know that. Oh that's very good. Near

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Speaker 2: this morning, and thank you very much for your text

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Speaker 2: this morning. Jack means testing super a great way to

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Speaker 2: Talk ZB, Debra says, Jack, you're not paying for our super.

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Speaker 6: They've they've done wonders for football this year.

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Speaker 2: They really have. And I mean I don't want to

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Speaker 2: let's focus on those cliches for the time beings so

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Speaker 2: that we get through this afternoon. Thank you, sir Andrew

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Speaker 2: got their seventh album on the way, so it's exciting.

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Speaker 2: But in New Zealand Music Month for you there right now,

429
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Speaker 2: it's twenty three minutes to ten on News Dogs. He'd

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Speaker 2: be Francesca rud Can, our film reviewer, is here Kilda.

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Speaker 8: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Two films for us this morning. The first is showing

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Speaker 2: in cinemas at the moment that the man the legend

434
00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:44,493
Speaker 2: that is Tom Cruise in the Final Mission Impossible. So

435
00:23:44,573 --> 00:23:47,613
Speaker 2: let's have a listen to Mission Impossible, the final reckoning.

436
00:23:53,333 --> 00:23:59,173
Speaker 3: Your team has going to betrayed. Oh, your secrets compromised.

437
00:24:04,333 --> 00:24:05,493
Speaker 6: I need you to trust me.

438
00:24:07,173 --> 00:24:08,093
Speaker 8: One last time.

439
00:24:10,613 --> 00:24:14,693
Speaker 2: That the dum right oh Ethan Hunt is back. This

440
00:24:14,773 --> 00:24:17,813
Speaker 2: is the eighth film. I reckon I three behind at

441
00:24:17,813 --> 00:24:19,333
Speaker 2: the moment. I'm sorry, I know that's bad.

442
00:24:19,653 --> 00:24:20,693
Speaker 6: No, that's you're doing.

443
00:24:21,173 --> 00:24:23,893
Speaker 9: I'm quite impressed, Yes, doing well. I mean they have

444
00:24:24,013 --> 00:24:26,613
Speaker 9: been around for thirty years, had some time to catch up,

445
00:24:26,693 --> 00:24:29,173
Speaker 9: to be honest. So it's almost about thirty years ago

446
00:24:29,213 --> 00:24:32,173
Speaker 9: since these films started. Then, yes, it is supposed to

447
00:24:32,173 --> 00:24:34,053
Speaker 9: be the last film. But with Honey would you just

448
00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:37,333
Speaker 9: Never Know? And Tom Cruise, well, you know, if this

449
00:24:37,373 --> 00:24:40,053
Speaker 9: film is anything to go by, he's looking pretty good

450
00:24:40,093 --> 00:24:42,853
Speaker 9: because we get to see a lot of him quite often. Yeah,

451
00:24:42,853 --> 00:24:44,933
Speaker 9: he's very keen to get the shirt off in this film,

452
00:24:45,773 --> 00:24:48,813
Speaker 9: and he's still doing his own stance, as everybody knows.

453
00:24:48,853 --> 00:24:51,533
Speaker 9: So look, they could be life in this year, who knows.

454
00:24:51,613 --> 00:24:56,053
Speaker 9: But this this is supposedly the final film, directed again

455
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Speaker 9: by Christopher mcquarie. These two Tom and Christopher, they also

456
00:24:59,613 --> 00:25:03,533
Speaker 9: produced this. It is very much their baby, and it

457
00:25:03,613 --> 00:25:06,613
Speaker 9: is very much the Tom Cruise show. He might part

458
00:25:06,653 --> 00:25:09,453
Speaker 9: of a team, but this film is very much all

459
00:25:09,493 --> 00:25:12,173
Speaker 9: about Tom or should we say Ethan Hunt. Do you

460
00:25:12,213 --> 00:25:16,013
Speaker 9: remember there was a Christopher Nolman film, Jack called Tenant, And.

461
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Speaker 6: I said to you.

462
00:25:17,053 --> 00:25:20,413
Speaker 9: It is absolutely stunning to watch. But don't sit there

463
00:25:20,453 --> 00:25:21,773
Speaker 9: trying to work it out.

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00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:22,573
Speaker 8: You remember I.

465
00:25:22,493 --> 00:25:25,533
Speaker 2: Told yeah, yeah, Yeah, I think I do yeah in a.

466
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Speaker 9: Little way these last two films in the Mission Impossible franchise.

467
00:25:30,973 --> 00:25:32,973
Speaker 9: When it comes to the plot, don't really try and

468
00:25:32,973 --> 00:25:35,293
Speaker 9: work it out. It doesn't really make a huge amount

469
00:25:35,293 --> 00:25:38,093
Speaker 9: of sense. It's a very convoluted story for something which

470
00:25:38,133 --> 00:25:41,493
Speaker 9: is actually really simple. Yeah, And it's all about this

471
00:25:41,973 --> 00:25:46,413
Speaker 9: rogue AI entity which is giving out all this information

472
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Speaker 9: to people. It's making humans turn against each other, it's

473
00:25:49,533 --> 00:25:53,173
Speaker 9: making countries turn against each other. It's also able to

474
00:25:53,373 --> 00:25:57,653
Speaker 9: penetrate cybersecurity, so it's actually taking control the country's weapons

475
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Speaker 9: and things. And the whole band was about to blow

476
00:26:00,493 --> 00:26:04,413
Speaker 9: itself up in things. And humans have to find their

477
00:26:04,493 --> 00:26:10,333
Speaker 9: humanity just long enough to allow Ethan Hunt, the only

478
00:26:10,373 --> 00:26:12,773
Speaker 9: person to move who is able to find a way

479
00:26:12,813 --> 00:26:15,893
Speaker 9: to kill this entity. And there's something to do with

480
00:26:15,933 --> 00:26:18,253
Speaker 9: a key and a hard drive and a little thing

481
00:26:18,293 --> 00:26:20,533
Speaker 9: that looks like a power bank, and between those three

482
00:26:20,613 --> 00:26:22,933
Speaker 9: things we get them all together and the world's going

483
00:26:22,973 --> 00:26:25,173
Speaker 9: to be saved. As I say, it's all a little

484
00:26:25,213 --> 00:26:26,893
Speaker 9: bit convolution. And by the time I was watching it.

485
00:26:26,973 --> 00:26:29,653
Speaker 9: I couldn't actually remember where the entity came from her creator.

486
00:26:29,853 --> 00:26:33,413
Speaker 9: That does not matter. This is a sit back, grab

487
00:26:33,493 --> 00:26:40,773
Speaker 9: some popcorn, relax and enjoy. Yeah the really silly, nonsensical, incredible,

488
00:26:41,053 --> 00:26:44,093
Speaker 9: thrilling stunts that Tom calls you.

489
00:26:44,133 --> 00:26:44,453
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.

490
00:26:44,573 --> 00:26:48,053
Speaker 2: Embrace the escapism. Embrace yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally embrace

491
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Speaker 2: the fact.

492
00:26:48,493 --> 00:26:51,333
Speaker 9: That really this guy should be dead. He should probably

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Speaker 9: die four films ago. It's actually impossible he is still alive.

494
00:26:55,653 --> 00:26:58,213
Speaker 9: But you just sort of you just hand out, you

495
00:26:58,333 --> 00:27:00,733
Speaker 9: just give in. The Only thing about this film is

496
00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:04,453
Speaker 9: they take a really nostalgic approach to this final film.

497
00:27:04,813 --> 00:27:07,093
Speaker 9: The opening scene is sort of like ten minutes long,

498
00:27:07,133 --> 00:27:09,613
Speaker 9: and a lot of it's all flashbacks to previce films.

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00:27:09,613 --> 00:27:10,693
Speaker 2: Are you're kind of going.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, you've done. You've had this.

501
00:27:13,613 --> 00:27:15,373
Speaker 9: You know, you've been very successful.

502
00:27:15,413 --> 00:27:16,173
Speaker 10: I mean, oh.

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Speaker 9: Gosh, yeah, four billion globally. It pulled massive, you know,

504
00:27:21,173 --> 00:27:24,453
Speaker 9: money at the box office, and yes, it has pushed

505
00:27:24,493 --> 00:27:28,013
Speaker 9: I think, what can be achieved in an action flick.

506
00:27:28,293 --> 00:27:30,173
Speaker 9: But you know, if they're kind of patting themselves on

507
00:27:30,173 --> 00:27:32,413
Speaker 9: the back a little bit too much throughout this film

508
00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:34,693
Speaker 9: from my lik and it's like, hey, guys, do what

509
00:27:34,693 --> 00:27:35,173
Speaker 9: you're good at.

510
00:27:35,333 --> 00:27:37,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get back to jumping off something or

511
00:27:37,973 --> 00:27:40,813
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, like riding a motorbike out of a helicopter

512
00:27:40,973 --> 00:27:41,293
Speaker 2: or something.

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00:27:41,373 --> 00:27:44,333
Speaker 9: Yeah, well fifty you could have cut this too, and

514
00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:46,213
Speaker 9: I would have really happy.

515
00:27:46,493 --> 00:27:47,653
Speaker 6: So yeah, but look good.

516
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Speaker 9: It's been really successful. And if you love a good

517
00:27:51,853 --> 00:27:53,933
Speaker 9: throll at the theater, go to the cinema. It's made

518
00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:54,613
Speaker 9: for the big screen.

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00:27:55,213 --> 00:27:57,133
Speaker 2: It's one of those films, isn't it. Like I mean,

520
00:27:57,133 --> 00:27:59,573
Speaker 2: obviously Tom Cruise kind of makes it, but you wonder

521
00:27:59,573 --> 00:28:01,973
Speaker 2: if the franchise would have been quite as good without

522
00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:06,293
Speaker 2: the music. You know, it's about it's just that done.

523
00:28:06,533 --> 00:28:09,453
Speaker 2: Dunt dun dun, dun dunn. It's just like far Out.

524
00:28:09,493 --> 00:28:12,333
Speaker 2: That is an amazing so simple and such a great z.

525
00:28:12,933 --> 00:28:17,293
Speaker 3: Yeah they tell me this message, will you know, self.

526
00:28:17,093 --> 00:28:20,773
Speaker 2: Distructing five Yeah yeah, yeah, it's so good. I mean

527
00:28:20,813 --> 00:28:23,413
Speaker 2: it's like you say, you just embrace the silliness and

528
00:28:23,453 --> 00:28:23,933
Speaker 2: it's good fun.

529
00:28:24,373 --> 00:28:24,613
Speaker 11: Okay.

530
00:28:24,693 --> 00:28:26,813
Speaker 2: So that's Mission impossible, the Final Reckoning, and that is

531
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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas right now, also showing on Apple Plus.

532
00:28:30,773 --> 00:28:37,093
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to Fountain of Youth. There's the power.

533
00:28:40,733 --> 00:28:45,733
Speaker 1: Beyond any of our comprehensions, and which genius will explain

534
00:28:45,773 --> 00:28:45,933
Speaker 1: to me.

535
00:28:46,013 --> 00:28:46,813
Speaker 8: Why iron here.

536
00:28:47,053 --> 00:28:48,373
Speaker 12: We're looking for the fountain of youth?

537
00:28:48,533 --> 00:28:49,533
Speaker 8: Oh please?

538
00:28:49,813 --> 00:28:54,733
Speaker 2: No, right, Oh, he's got some big names in this

539
00:28:54,853 --> 00:28:58,133
Speaker 2: Stanley two g Natalie Portman, John Krasinski.

540
00:28:59,173 --> 00:29:01,653
Speaker 9: And the gorgeous thing is that Stanley Tucci is actually

541
00:29:01,733 --> 00:29:03,733
Speaker 9: John Krasinski's brother in law.

542
00:29:03,813 --> 00:29:04,973
Speaker 10: And he didn't know he was in the film.

543
00:29:05,173 --> 00:29:08,333
Speaker 9: Oh, Richie, they're not in many things together. And Guy

544
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:11,533
Speaker 9: Richie says to John Kristinsky one day, Oh, yes, Stanley's

545
00:29:11,533 --> 00:29:13,173
Speaker 9: on set tomorrow, and he's like, oh, really, all great?

546
00:29:13,213 --> 00:29:13,973
Speaker 6: Is he just coming to visit?

547
00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:15,333
Speaker 9: He's like no, It's like, well, what's he doing?

548
00:29:15,493 --> 00:29:16,293
Speaker 6: Is that he's in the film.

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00:29:16,333 --> 00:29:20,693
Speaker 9: He's like is he? Oh that's interesting. National treasure in

550
00:29:20,813 --> 00:29:24,453
Speaker 9: Indiana Jones Films. If you're a fan of those types

551
00:29:24,533 --> 00:29:28,213
Speaker 9: of family adventure flicks, you're going to absolutely love this.

552
00:29:29,133 --> 00:29:31,333
Speaker 9: Directed by Guy Ritchie, who just seems to be very

553
00:29:31,413 --> 00:29:35,333
Speaker 9: busy at the moment. Natalie Portman John Krasinski plays siblings

554
00:29:35,773 --> 00:29:38,653
Speaker 9: and this is probably the it's close to the twist

555
00:29:38,813 --> 00:29:41,133
Speaker 9: on this genre, as you get that instead of them

556
00:29:41,213 --> 00:29:46,013
Speaker 9: being next lovers or lovers or partners or whatever. They're siblings, right,

557
00:29:46,133 --> 00:29:48,413
Speaker 9: but they look nothing alike, but we'll just put that aside.

558
00:29:49,293 --> 00:29:52,093
Speaker 9: So it's all kind of their sibling relationship is what

559
00:29:52,253 --> 00:29:55,773
Speaker 9: kind of drives this, and they're pretty charming at this.

560
00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:57,653
Speaker 9: Luke is a treasure hunter.

561
00:29:58,413 --> 00:30:00,893
Speaker 8: Their father was a treasure hunter as well.

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Speaker 9: Charlotte has retired from the business. She's now a gallery curator,

563
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Speaker 9: and that is until her brother pops to see her

564
00:30:07,133 --> 00:30:10,373
Speaker 9: and steals the painting under her nose and she's suddenly unemployed.

565
00:30:11,093 --> 00:30:14,653
Speaker 9: So she's also currently in the middle of getting a divorce,

566
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Speaker 9: and so she decides, oh, to heck with that, I'll

567
00:30:16,373 --> 00:30:18,613
Speaker 9: join my brother and off we'll go on this latest adventure,

568
00:30:18,653 --> 00:30:21,893
Speaker 9: as you heard, there to find this mythological spring that

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Speaker 9: grants eternal life. And this is all being funded by

570
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Speaker 9: a very wealthy patron who is dying of liver cancer.

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Speaker 9: And so off they go on this adventure and look looking,

572
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Speaker 9: Charlotte had this lovely love hate relationship.

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Speaker 8: It works well.

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Speaker 9: The locations are fabulous. They head to Vietnam and Egypt,

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Speaker 9: Liverpool and Vienna, and there's lots of fun action sequences.

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Speaker 9: I sometimes I feel it's a bit of a shame

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00:30:42,973 --> 00:30:45,733
Speaker 9: when you've got a big budget kind of global adventure

578
00:30:45,773 --> 00:30:49,173
Speaker 9: with these big stars and these beautiful views that it's

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00:30:49,333 --> 00:30:52,773
Speaker 9: made for streaming, it's made for the small screen. This

580
00:30:52,893 --> 00:30:55,533
Speaker 9: is actually made for the big screen. So it's I

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00:30:55,653 --> 00:30:57,813
Speaker 9: kind of think, oh, you've got it, it's all here.

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00:30:57,893 --> 00:30:59,733
Speaker 9: This would be so much more fun on the big screen.

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Speaker 9: But look, I think it's something the whole family can enjoy.

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00:31:03,213 --> 00:31:05,813
Speaker 9: I found it a touch underwhelming, and maybe it's just

585
00:31:05,933 --> 00:31:09,853
Speaker 9: because we are so familiar with this genre, this type.

586
00:31:10,293 --> 00:31:12,013
Speaker 9: But look, good time this weekend if you want something

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00:31:12,053 --> 00:31:12,853
Speaker 9: to watch with the kids.

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00:31:12,973 --> 00:31:16,253
Speaker 2: Very good. Okay, cool, that's Fountain of Youth that is

589
00:31:16,573 --> 00:31:19,973
Speaker 2: showing on Apple Plus. Mission Impossible. The Final Reckoning is

590
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Speaker 2: in cinemas.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: We'll make sure we have all the details for those

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Speaker 2: movies up on the news talks heb wed side Francisco Rudkin.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and thank you very much for

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Speaker 2: your feedback this morning. We have had gazillions of messages

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Speaker 2: regarding superannuation, Key we Savior and retirement in New Zealand.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Two years ago I turned sixty five and didn't claim

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Speaker 2: the super I still haven't as I don't require the money.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather spent on education and health, says Pauline. Thanks Pauline, Kate,

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Speaker 2: says Jack. I've always thought that a very simple, simple

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Speaker 2: solution for the super problem would be, if you are working,

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Speaker 2: you're not entitled to super. People can then decide if

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Speaker 2: they're ready to retire or if they want to keep

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Speaker 2: on working. But please stop the double dipping. Love your show,

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Speaker 2: love your message, Thanks Kate, ninety two ninety two if

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Speaker 2: you want to send us a note as well. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: to ten on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Twelve minutes to ten on News Talks. He'd be I

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Speaker 2: mean to tell you after ten o'clock this morning in

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Speaker 2: our screen time segment, if those movies maybe aren't your

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Speaker 2: cup of tea, or maybe you've seen them both already.

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Speaker 2: We've got three fantastic shows to recommend, including a new

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Speaker 2: series of Nine Perfect Strangers. You know, that's the Nicole

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Speaker 2: Kimmin drama based on the Leanne Moriarty book. So we'll

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Speaker 2: tell you about that in screen time after ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning. Right now, though, time to catch up with

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Speaker 2: Rosa Flanagan, who is, of course one of the two

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Speaker 2: Raw Sisters for our recipe of the week.

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Speaker 11: Calda Rosa, Hello, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you, Helloomy or Zo Trey bake.

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Speaker 12: Yum.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of like like autumnal little comfort food.

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00:32:55,773 --> 00:32:59,373
Speaker 13: Eh mm hmm, exactly. I'm all for since the mom,

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Speaker 13: I'm all for these that one can. Oh yeah, chuck

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Speaker 13: in the oven, quit it mazy yet cup putting meals.

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Speaker 4: And this is exactly that I just reckon.

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Speaker 2: Hallumi's one of those things too. Cherito's the other one.

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Speaker 2: We just added to any meal and it just elevates

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Speaker 2: stuff so much like it just you know, it gives

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Speaker 2: us as a little edge.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, any Hallomian recipes we have, they are always they

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Speaker 13: always go top to the top of the chart. They

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Speaker 13: are super popular.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not surprised, Okay, So run us through it.

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Speaker 13: So this recipe to four people. So as I said it,

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Speaker 13: you literally put everything into a big peatproof dish. I

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Speaker 13: love using some big cast iron pans skillet situation. So

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Speaker 13: in the recue, We've got one eggplant cut into bite sized,

643
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Speaker 13: bite sized chunks and then We've got one leak sliced

644
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Speaker 13: width ways, and then we've got a red one in

645
00:33:49,573 --> 00:33:52,773
Speaker 13: which you can just dice. In terms of the juice,

646
00:33:52,893 --> 00:33:54,813
Speaker 13: you can use what if the Vigew's you've got at

647
00:33:54,853 --> 00:33:57,653
Speaker 13: home and in your fridge and Watson season so eggplants.

648
00:33:58,533 --> 00:34:01,493
Speaker 13: They are still reasonably cheap at the moment. But if

649
00:34:01,573 --> 00:34:05,253
Speaker 13: you have pumped in at home or Comera, or you've

650
00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:11,413
Speaker 13: got spinel celery, broccoli, cauliflower, whatever cabbage, use that instead.

651
00:34:12,973 --> 00:34:16,133
Speaker 13: So add the equlant leak red onion. We've got some

652
00:34:16,293 --> 00:34:19,013
Speaker 13: cherry tomatoes there as well. I know quite a few

653
00:34:19,053 --> 00:34:21,133
Speaker 13: people getting the last of the cheerio tomatoes out of

654
00:34:21,133 --> 00:34:23,573
Speaker 13: their glass houses. You can use those. If not, you

655
00:34:23,653 --> 00:34:26,053
Speaker 13: can leave them out, and you can add some garlic

656
00:34:26,133 --> 00:34:29,213
Speaker 13: as well. We've got three clothes in there, so put

657
00:34:29,253 --> 00:34:32,173
Speaker 13: that all into the heatproof dish. Drizzle with some oil,

658
00:34:32,613 --> 00:34:36,173
Speaker 13: sprinkle over your sea salt posts, toss everything together and

659
00:34:36,253 --> 00:34:39,053
Speaker 13: then you can place in the oven for thirty minutes.

660
00:34:40,093 --> 00:34:43,253
Speaker 13: Once that thirty minutes is up, add a can of

661
00:34:43,413 --> 00:34:46,853
Speaker 13: chopped tomatoes to just any can of chopped tomatoes, three

662
00:34:46,933 --> 00:34:49,493
Speaker 13: quarters of a cup of water, three quarters of a

663
00:34:49,533 --> 00:34:52,173
Speaker 13: cup of orzo and then some halloomi. So what we

664
00:34:52,413 --> 00:34:54,053
Speaker 13: like to do is we like to do half of

665
00:34:54,133 --> 00:34:58,253
Speaker 13: the halloomi in little cubes, and then the other half

666
00:34:58,333 --> 00:35:00,253
Speaker 13: we like to grate on top of everything.

667
00:35:00,573 --> 00:35:02,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, before we put.

668
00:35:01,973 --> 00:35:03,533
Speaker 13: It back in the oven for twenty minutes, so it

669
00:35:03,653 --> 00:35:07,053
Speaker 13: goes all delicious and golden and melted on. If you

670
00:35:07,293 --> 00:35:10,773
Speaker 13: are dairy free though, and you can't have pullumi, then

671
00:35:10,813 --> 00:35:12,253
Speaker 13: you can leave it out all together, or you can

672
00:35:12,333 --> 00:35:16,293
Speaker 13: find a dairy free cheese alternative. I also love adding

673
00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:18,933
Speaker 13: something like salmon and this, so you can chop up

674
00:35:18,973 --> 00:35:21,973
Speaker 13: some salmon into some cubes. You can add some chicken,

675
00:35:22,093 --> 00:35:25,133
Speaker 13: you can do pawns, you can do whitefish. There's so

676
00:35:25,253 --> 00:35:28,213
Speaker 13: many options, and yeah, pretty much on it's it's finished

677
00:35:28,773 --> 00:35:30,893
Speaker 13: the last twenty minutes in the oven, pull it out

678
00:35:31,173 --> 00:35:34,413
Speaker 13: and enjoy and put some herbs on top. I like

679
00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:38,373
Speaker 13: drizzling it with some tahini or any of your favorite dressings.

680
00:35:38,933 --> 00:35:40,653
Speaker 13: And you can keep it in the fridge for up

681
00:35:40,693 --> 00:35:43,773
Speaker 13: to four days. So grateful work lunches. If you want

682
00:35:43,853 --> 00:35:46,533
Speaker 13: to make one and freeze one, you can absolutely do

683
00:35:46,653 --> 00:35:50,573
Speaker 13: that as well. It's super freezer friendly, so just put

684
00:35:50,613 --> 00:35:52,893
Speaker 13: it in the freezer, covered, uncooked and then you just

685
00:35:52,973 --> 00:35:54,933
Speaker 13: have to chuck it in the oven after you pull

686
00:35:54,973 --> 00:35:55,213
Speaker 13: it up.

687
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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. That sounds so good, just sounds like, yeah,

688
00:35:59,053 --> 00:36:02,133
Speaker 2: I reckon, Oh you're having it the next day as well.

689
00:36:02,173 --> 00:36:05,573
Speaker 2: Ah that's a really yeah, yeah, that would be like

690
00:36:05,653 --> 00:36:09,013
Speaker 2: a good little leftover lunch option. I reckon, make a

691
00:36:09,053 --> 00:36:10,893
Speaker 2: double serve for dinner and then away you go.

692
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Speaker 13: You know, yeah, be intelligently lazy in the kitchen. And

693
00:36:14,413 --> 00:36:16,813
Speaker 13: not only you can, as you said, have some for

694
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Speaker 13: the next day, but it takes just as long to

695
00:36:19,413 --> 00:36:22,093
Speaker 13: make two as it does to make one, So yeah,

696
00:36:22,693 --> 00:36:25,333
Speaker 13: why not make two and freeze one and enjoy one?

697
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Love your work, Roser, Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and yeah, we will make sure that recipe

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745
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Speaker 2: be through to midday today. New Zealand's leading contemporary dance company,

746
00:39:24,253 --> 00:39:28,893
Speaker 2: Black Grace, is celebrating thirty years this year, and then

747
00:39:28,973 --> 00:39:31,653
Speaker 2: new company B show Rage Rage is about to launch

748
00:39:31,733 --> 00:39:34,933
Speaker 2: at Auckland's Alt Hair Center, joining us from Black Grace.

749
00:39:34,973 --> 00:39:37,893
Speaker 2: At Lander's production is the show creator Leaky Jackson bought Or,

750
00:39:37,933 --> 00:39:42,573
Speaker 2: co creator Leaky Jackson Bork, and dance talent Justice calum

751
00:39:42,733 --> 00:39:44,973
Speaker 2: Or calder Korder. I thank you for being with us

752
00:39:45,413 --> 00:39:49,013
Speaker 2: this morning. Let's start off with you, Lecky tell us

753
00:39:49,013 --> 00:39:49,733
Speaker 2: about Rage Rage.

754
00:39:50,973 --> 00:39:53,813
Speaker 12: Good morning jack, Good morning listeners. Rage Rage is an

755
00:39:53,973 --> 00:39:58,213
Speaker 12: exploration by company B under Black Grace, and it's pretty

756
00:39:58,293 --> 00:40:03,733
Speaker 12: much a multidisciplinary works. There's contemporary dance, there's acting, there's singing,

757
00:40:04,533 --> 00:40:08,173
Speaker 12: there's some physical theater, and it's all around the concept

758
00:40:08,253 --> 00:40:11,893
Speaker 12: of rage and how we feel rage in different kind

759
00:40:11,933 --> 00:40:15,213
Speaker 12: of capacities. We explore a lot of different things. We

760
00:40:15,293 --> 00:40:19,613
Speaker 12: look at local issues, national issues, and international things that

761
00:40:19,693 --> 00:40:21,533
Speaker 12: are happening around the world, so that all of that

762
00:40:21,733 --> 00:40:24,893
Speaker 12: informs the work and the exploration. And yeah, we put

763
00:40:24,933 --> 00:40:27,253
Speaker 12: it together in a fancy one hour show and it's

764
00:40:27,373 --> 00:40:28,653
Speaker 12: there's something for everybody.

765
00:40:29,013 --> 00:40:32,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's lots to be enraged about at

766
00:40:32,653 --> 00:40:36,493
Speaker 2: the moment. But is it like explicit the things that

767
00:40:36,573 --> 00:40:39,613
Speaker 2: you are performing about, Like, is it obvious the kind

768
00:40:39,653 --> 00:40:41,773
Speaker 2: of things that you are enraged by?

769
00:40:42,293 --> 00:40:44,493
Speaker 12: Yes, I think people will kind of get the themes

770
00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:47,173
Speaker 12: we're trying to work with without giving the show yeah

771
00:40:47,413 --> 00:40:52,893
Speaker 12: too much, but it's there's something that's relatable to everyone

772
00:40:53,493 --> 00:40:54,333
Speaker 12: who comes to watch.

773
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so justice, tell us about your role. You have

774
00:40:56,973 --> 00:40:59,133
Speaker 2: finished up at toy Facadi last year and this is

775
00:41:00,533 --> 00:41:02,893
Speaker 2: like a bit of a kind of multi disciplinary show, right,

776
00:41:02,933 --> 00:41:07,373
Speaker 2: So you're acting, you're using kind of you're dancing. There's

777
00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:10,253
Speaker 2: singing as well as Yeah, so so the whole range

778
00:41:10,253 --> 00:41:11,413
Speaker 2: of stuff. Tell us about your role.

779
00:41:13,373 --> 00:41:16,093
Speaker 14: Yeah, so this, I feel like the process is completely

780
00:41:16,253 --> 00:41:19,893
Speaker 14: new to me. In terms of the dance aspect. I've

781
00:41:19,973 --> 00:41:24,973
Speaker 14: never really been in a process where it's you know,

782
00:41:25,053 --> 00:41:27,653
Speaker 14: it's everything you expect from a higher caliber dance company

783
00:41:27,733 --> 00:41:31,333
Speaker 14: such as Blackgress. You know, it's it's physical, it's challenging,

784
00:41:31,493 --> 00:41:35,493
Speaker 14: and you know it requires the very best. But yeah,

785
00:41:35,853 --> 00:41:41,293
Speaker 14: I think I'm just one of many artists just trying

786
00:41:41,293 --> 00:41:46,253
Speaker 14: to portray the image within this show. And yeah, that's

787
00:41:46,853 --> 00:41:51,213
Speaker 14: pretty much my role to say. I do obviously singing

788
00:41:51,293 --> 00:41:53,133
Speaker 14: it and perform and dancing.

789
00:41:53,173 --> 00:41:56,453
Speaker 2: It sounds quite fun, is it like, do you come

790
00:41:56,493 --> 00:41:57,733
Speaker 2: from a big dance background?

791
00:41:58,053 --> 00:41:58,093
Speaker 4: No?

792
00:41:58,413 --> 00:41:59,973
Speaker 2: No, yeah, no not at all.

793
00:42:00,813 --> 00:42:02,013
Speaker 12: He's being very humble here.

794
00:42:02,133 --> 00:42:05,333
Speaker 2: No, No, no, I actually I actually don't. I've well,

795
00:42:05,413 --> 00:42:08,533
Speaker 2: you used to like dance thing as a kid, right, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

796
00:42:08,613 --> 00:42:09,853
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

797
00:42:09,893 --> 00:42:11,853
Speaker 14: I grew up watching all the step ups and stuff

798
00:42:11,973 --> 00:42:12,133
Speaker 14: like that.

799
00:42:12,413 --> 00:42:15,373
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it's a different thing when you're when

800
00:42:15,413 --> 00:42:18,333
Speaker 2: you're performing with Black Grayce's covey Bait. Yeah, that's a

801
00:42:18,613 --> 00:42:21,853
Speaker 2: let's a stiff up. So what's it like coming into

802
00:42:21,893 --> 00:42:22,413
Speaker 2: that environment?

803
00:42:23,453 --> 00:42:23,893
Speaker 6: Oh it was.

804
00:42:24,213 --> 00:42:25,533
Speaker 2: It was an eye opener for sure.

805
00:42:25,893 --> 00:42:29,933
Speaker 14: I feel like, you know, there's from the outside perspective,

806
00:42:30,013 --> 00:42:32,253
Speaker 14: it's like, oh yeah, you know black races and things,

807
00:42:32,293 --> 00:42:33,573
Speaker 14: blah blah blah blah blah blah.

808
00:42:34,093 --> 00:42:35,733
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's a bit.

809
00:42:35,773 --> 00:42:40,253
Speaker 14: Hard to explain to people just how you know, how

810
00:42:40,373 --> 00:42:43,613
Speaker 14: fast paced the rehearsals are and you know how much

811
00:42:43,653 --> 00:42:47,093
Speaker 14: it requires of you unless you're in the room itself,

812
00:42:47,253 --> 00:42:49,653
Speaker 14: you know, experiencing that for yourself, and you know, it's

813
00:42:49,693 --> 00:42:50,853
Speaker 14: been it's been amazing.

814
00:42:53,333 --> 00:42:59,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, but good so yeah, but good. So Like

815
00:42:59,213 --> 00:43:01,333
Speaker 2: as you finish up and you're like you're you're physically

816
00:43:01,653 --> 00:43:05,413
Speaker 2: really like muscular sore or like slapping yourself saw or like.

817
00:43:05,653 --> 00:43:08,613
Speaker 14: Just musculine Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's been good.

818
00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:11,333
Speaker 14: I feel like the first rehearsal, you know, my body

819
00:43:11,373 --> 00:43:12,653
Speaker 14: was in the show was like, Oh my gosh, this

820
00:43:12,813 --> 00:43:16,133
Speaker 14: is crazy, and then you know, as time went on,

821
00:43:16,613 --> 00:43:19,253
Speaker 14: slowly started to adapt to it. And yeah, it's been

822
00:43:19,333 --> 00:43:21,013
Speaker 14: really Nicey has he been going?

823
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Speaker 12: I think he's done an amazing job. I just when

824
00:43:25,813 --> 00:43:27,853
Speaker 12: you're watching Black Grace from the outside, you know, I

825
00:43:27,933 --> 00:43:30,693
Speaker 12: guess some people have called them the all Blacks of dance. Yeah,

826
00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:33,453
Speaker 12: you know, it's a very physical company. It's super physical.

827
00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:39,253
Speaker 2: It's a lot yeah mentally physically, there's a high demand, and.

828
00:43:39,293 --> 00:43:41,533
Speaker 12: I think for a lot of these new younger performers,

829
00:43:41,573 --> 00:43:44,733
Speaker 12: they've really adapted to the culture of Black Grace quite

830
00:43:44,773 --> 00:43:46,933
Speaker 12: fast or just just kind of had no choice.

831
00:43:47,013 --> 00:43:47,413
Speaker 6: He was just.

832
00:43:49,013 --> 00:43:52,773
Speaker 12: And when you're in your yeah, yeah, he's done great.

833
00:43:52,933 --> 00:43:55,613
Speaker 2: So when you say the culture of Black Grace, Black

834
00:43:55,613 --> 00:43:57,653
Speaker 2: Gray's been around like thirty years this year, that is

835
00:43:57,813 --> 00:44:00,773
Speaker 2: crazy to me. But how would you how do you

836
00:44:00,853 --> 00:44:03,013
Speaker 2: think about the culture? How would you explain it to someone?

837
00:44:04,533 --> 00:44:09,013
Speaker 2: What distinguishes it? It's very unique and reflective of society

838
00:44:09,093 --> 00:44:11,253
Speaker 2: here and Alti at all. I think what makes us

839
00:44:11,293 --> 00:44:16,733
Speaker 2: different obviously is drawing on traditional kind of Moldi and

840
00:44:16,813 --> 00:44:23,293
Speaker 2: Pacific cultural heritage practices art forms, and then looking at

841
00:44:23,333 --> 00:44:26,613
Speaker 2: it with a content with contemporary training and a different lens,

842
00:44:26,693 --> 00:44:30,053
Speaker 2: and I think that unique blend of traditional and contemporary

843
00:44:30,093 --> 00:44:33,893
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, and kind of defines Black Grace's style.

844
00:44:34,053 --> 00:44:34,573
Speaker 2: And it's real.

845
00:44:34,813 --> 00:44:40,453
Speaker 12: It's real, fast paced, high edge cutting physical. If you've

846
00:44:40,453 --> 00:44:42,893
Speaker 12: been to a black show, a black race show, you've

847
00:44:42,893 --> 00:44:45,773
Speaker 12: probably you're probably sweeting in the audience watching the dancers

848
00:44:45,813 --> 00:44:48,093
Speaker 12: because there isn't a lot of time to breathe.

849
00:44:48,253 --> 00:44:50,253
Speaker 2: No, it is, it's a lot, right, So for a

850
00:44:50,293 --> 00:44:52,413
Speaker 2: show like that, when you think about Black Grace being

851
00:44:52,853 --> 00:44:57,133
Speaker 2: like kind of distinguishing itself with the intensity of its shows,

852
00:44:58,253 --> 00:45:01,453
Speaker 2: and then you you call a show rage rage, how

853
00:45:01,533 --> 00:45:04,013
Speaker 2: do you how do you build nuance into that? How

854
00:45:04,093 --> 00:45:06,213
Speaker 2: do you do it? Or do you do you simply

855
00:45:06,253 --> 00:45:08,053
Speaker 2: do design a show where it's just like you know

856
00:45:08,173 --> 00:45:10,693
Speaker 2: what I'm in sense from the word go, everyone's just

857
00:45:10,813 --> 00:45:13,013
Speaker 2: going like one hundred percent from the word go.

858
00:45:13,773 --> 00:45:18,773
Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, the show kind of builds builds around rage.

859
00:45:18,813 --> 00:45:20,653
Speaker 12: But I guess there's different layers so that and we

860
00:45:20,853 --> 00:45:23,133
Speaker 12: unpack what what that looks like for different people. Some

861
00:45:23,213 --> 00:45:25,493
Speaker 12: people experience rage and a you know, in a quiet

862
00:45:25,613 --> 00:45:29,893
Speaker 12: rage or in a real like still calm storm. So

863
00:45:29,973 --> 00:45:33,813
Speaker 12: we explore different variations of rage. So the whole thing

864
00:45:33,933 --> 00:45:36,373
Speaker 12: is not just high impact intents for an hour. There's

865
00:45:36,693 --> 00:45:38,333
Speaker 12: you know, there's some slow parts in it. There's some

866
00:45:38,813 --> 00:45:42,093
Speaker 12: there's a chance for our audiences to breathe and take stuff.

867
00:45:41,853 --> 00:45:45,333
Speaker 2: And a little chance, yeah, a little choice. What do

868
00:45:45,373 --> 00:45:47,453
Speaker 2: you think about the kind of place of contemporary dance

869
00:45:47,493 --> 00:45:48,253
Speaker 2: in New Zealand right now?

870
00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:50,813
Speaker 12: Well, that's a that's very loaded question.

871
00:45:51,013 --> 00:45:54,213
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, I mean I'm yeah, I'm

872
00:45:54,373 --> 00:45:57,693
Speaker 2: I'm well, here's here's what makes me think. In the

873
00:45:57,773 --> 00:46:00,773
Speaker 2: last few years, I mean, the last decade or so,

874
00:46:01,213 --> 00:46:04,093
Speaker 2: I feel like there's been such a surge in the

875
00:46:04,173 --> 00:46:07,853
Speaker 2: popularity of like modern kind of hip hop dance. Right

876
00:46:08,453 --> 00:46:10,533
Speaker 2: they think of the Royal family and what they've what

877
00:46:10,613 --> 00:46:14,133
Speaker 2: they've achieved, And I realized that you guys are operating

878
00:46:14,173 --> 00:46:16,133
Speaker 2: in different spaces. But I can imagine that a lot

879
00:46:16,213 --> 00:46:18,053
Speaker 2: of the people who are drawn to contemporary dance are

880
00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:19,733
Speaker 2: also drawn to that kind of dance, and I wonder

881
00:46:19,813 --> 00:46:23,053
Speaker 2: how that has influenced the place of Black Grace and

882
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:25,173
Speaker 2: the place of contemporary dance more more broadly.

883
00:46:25,613 --> 00:46:29,253
Speaker 12: Yeah, Honestly, from my own personal view and experience with

884
00:46:30,013 --> 00:46:32,093
Speaker 12: contemporary dance in New Zealand, I think it's a really

885
00:46:32,213 --> 00:46:35,693
Speaker 12: underappreciated art form. We're definitely a sports country. We're a

886
00:46:35,773 --> 00:46:39,693
Speaker 12: rugby culture country. As you said, hip hop is really

887
00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:42,773
Speaker 12: popular here in New Zealand. And I guess when when

888
00:46:42,853 --> 00:46:46,173
Speaker 12: we travel as Black Race overseas internationally, I see how

889
00:46:46,333 --> 00:46:50,013
Speaker 12: appreciated the art is by like Americans and stuff, the

890
00:46:50,173 --> 00:46:52,533
Speaker 12: art form, you know, like Americans love the kind of

891
00:46:52,573 --> 00:46:55,093
Speaker 12: work that we do and they hunger for it almost

892
00:46:55,293 --> 00:46:58,453
Speaker 12: And then we come back here and nobody knows who

893
00:46:58,493 --> 00:47:00,253
Speaker 12: we are, like you know this is there's a certain

894
00:47:00,373 --> 00:47:04,333
Speaker 12: market or a certain niche yeah here and I one

895
00:47:04,373 --> 00:47:06,493
Speaker 12: of the exciting things about Black Race is that have

896
00:47:06,573 --> 00:47:12,173
Speaker 12: been able to diversify our audiences and bringing different members

897
00:47:12,213 --> 00:47:16,053
Speaker 12: of different communities into the theater. So last year we

898
00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:19,093
Speaker 12: had a project and a lot of non a lot

899
00:47:19,133 --> 00:47:22,773
Speaker 12: of the non traditional contemporary dance audience came along to them.

900
00:47:23,013 --> 00:47:25,453
Speaker 12: I was really exciting. Like my brother who goes to nothing,

901
00:47:25,573 --> 00:47:27,573
Speaker 12: came to that and he was like, oh, I actually

902
00:47:27,653 --> 00:47:31,373
Speaker 12: really enjoyed it. That one was called the Gorilla Collection.

903
00:47:31,653 --> 00:47:34,933
Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, yeah nice. Yeah, so you you kind

904
00:47:34,973 --> 00:47:37,253
Speaker 2: of purposefully look at other ways to bring people in

905
00:47:37,413 --> 00:47:40,293
Speaker 2: and let them experience that. Yeah, previously.

906
00:47:40,493 --> 00:47:42,973
Speaker 12: Absolutely, And I think the joy in having this cast,

907
00:47:43,053 --> 00:47:45,693
Speaker 12: this cast is so diverse. We've got a you know,

908
00:47:45,773 --> 00:47:48,133
Speaker 12: so there's a German in it, there's a Japanese girl,

909
00:47:48,933 --> 00:47:51,413
Speaker 12: there are some young pacifica kids in it. There's a

910
00:47:51,453 --> 00:47:57,013
Speaker 12: whole mix of different divers diverse ethnicities and and genders,

911
00:47:57,093 --> 00:47:58,973
Speaker 12: and so I think it's going to appeal to a

912
00:47:59,053 --> 00:48:01,053
Speaker 12: really wide audience.

913
00:48:01,253 --> 00:48:04,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, just as how is it working with those people? Amazing?

914
00:48:04,933 --> 00:48:08,893
Speaker 14: It's I think the best part about it is is

915
00:48:08,973 --> 00:48:11,693
Speaker 14: that you know, just meeting people from different backgrounds and

916
00:48:11,893 --> 00:48:14,613
Speaker 14: getting to know them, you know, past the point of

917
00:48:14,853 --> 00:48:17,093
Speaker 14: just dance and getting to know them as a human being.

918
00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:22,053
Speaker 14: But yeah, they everyone in that room motivates me every day,

919
00:48:22,253 --> 00:48:26,733
Speaker 14: Like I I sometimes I just observe like they're worth

920
00:48:26,813 --> 00:48:29,213
Speaker 14: ethic and then it makes me want to work harder

921
00:48:29,213 --> 00:48:29,653
Speaker 14: in the room.

922
00:48:29,813 --> 00:48:31,893
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been really nice, even when you're just

923
00:48:31,933 --> 00:48:32,413
Speaker 2: being driven.

924
00:48:33,133 --> 00:48:33,333
Speaker 6: Yeah.

925
00:48:37,373 --> 00:48:37,573
Speaker 9: Yeah.

926
00:48:37,853 --> 00:48:40,133
Speaker 2: So so do you think that when you think about

927
00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:45,693
Speaker 2: the kind of different performing streams that you might have

928
00:48:45,773 --> 00:48:47,653
Speaker 2: a future for you and you think about your training

929
00:48:47,693 --> 00:48:50,053
Speaker 2: get toy for CARDI like, how where how does dance

930
00:48:50,133 --> 00:48:53,133
Speaker 2: kind of feature in that? That's still a question.

931
00:48:53,293 --> 00:48:57,573
Speaker 14: I'm still trying to figure out for myself at this stage.

932
00:48:59,693 --> 00:49:03,013
Speaker 14: I've always I've grown up loving you know, dance and

933
00:49:03,173 --> 00:49:06,933
Speaker 14: hip hop. Come from a hip hop background, but I've

934
00:49:06,973 --> 00:49:12,413
Speaker 14: also you know, found a new respectful contemporary dance and

935
00:49:12,533 --> 00:49:16,973
Speaker 14: that's what drove me to you know, audition for Company

936
00:49:17,053 --> 00:49:19,453
Speaker 14: B this year. I was, you know, it's a form

937
00:49:19,493 --> 00:49:22,813
Speaker 14: I've always respected, and you know, I for that I

938
00:49:22,933 --> 00:49:25,493
Speaker 14: knew was hard, but I've also wanted to you know,

939
00:49:26,413 --> 00:49:28,933
Speaker 14: my you know, just diving there and just try and

940
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:31,653
Speaker 14: give it a crack. So yeah, again there's still a question.

941
00:49:31,853 --> 00:49:34,773
Speaker 14: I'm not quite sure where this power will take me,

942
00:49:35,013 --> 00:49:37,933
Speaker 14: but yeah, doors are open.

943
00:49:38,573 --> 00:49:43,613
Speaker 2: Lacky, you won the Bruce Mason Play Running Award last year. Congratulations.

944
00:49:44,973 --> 00:49:46,093
Speaker 2: How affirming is that for you?

945
00:49:49,693 --> 00:49:55,213
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's it's it's really humbling. It's awesome to know

946
00:49:55,373 --> 00:49:59,853
Speaker 12: that I've been recognized for the plays that I've written,

947
00:50:00,733 --> 00:50:01,573
Speaker 12: but it also.

948
00:50:04,053 --> 00:50:05,053
Speaker 2: It's an ode to.

949
00:50:05,093 --> 00:50:10,773
Speaker 12: My parents and my grandparents and their early investment in

950
00:50:10,893 --> 00:50:13,613
Speaker 12: my education and you know, me from a young age,

951
00:50:14,013 --> 00:50:16,933
Speaker 12: I have no formal training as a writer. Yeah, yeah,

952
00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:17,613
Speaker 12: I won the Bruce.

953
00:50:19,013 --> 00:50:21,653
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Yeah, when you say, it's you know,

954
00:50:21,933 --> 00:50:23,813
Speaker 2: to kind of like tribute to the efforts that they

955
00:50:23,893 --> 00:50:26,773
Speaker 2: put in. What do you mean, like they they encouraged

956
00:50:26,973 --> 00:50:27,973
Speaker 2: storytelling kind of.

957
00:50:28,133 --> 00:50:32,133
Speaker 12: Yeah, storytelling has kind of been always present in our family,

958
00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:35,333
Speaker 12: and my grandpa was huge in education. And I guess,

959
00:50:35,573 --> 00:50:40,093
Speaker 12: like what motivates me to write and to tell stories

960
00:50:40,333 --> 00:50:43,853
Speaker 12: as knowing that he grew up in a different New Zealand. Yeah,

961
00:50:43,933 --> 00:50:46,173
Speaker 12: then I did. He grew up here in the nineteen seventies,

962
00:50:46,253 --> 00:50:48,973
Speaker 12: which looked much different for Pacific Island people at the time.

963
00:50:49,133 --> 00:50:52,093
Speaker 12: And so when I think about my grandpa having to

964
00:50:52,253 --> 00:50:54,653
Speaker 12: suppress his language and how does identity, I'm like, I

965
00:50:54,733 --> 00:50:55,413
Speaker 12: don't have to do that.

966
00:50:55,573 --> 00:50:55,693
Speaker 6: Now.

967
00:50:55,973 --> 00:50:58,613
Speaker 12: I'm privileged. I get to like celebrate, I get to

968
00:50:58,653 --> 00:51:01,693
Speaker 12: shine and celebrate and put my language and our stories

969
00:51:01,733 --> 00:51:05,133
Speaker 12: on stage on mainstream platforms, which is awesome.

970
00:51:05,453 --> 00:51:05,653
Speaker 4: Yeah.

971
00:51:05,853 --> 00:51:08,213
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what I mean by being a dedication to

972
00:51:09,013 --> 00:51:09,653
Speaker 12: their struggle.

973
00:51:09,813 --> 00:51:10,013
Speaker 4: Yeah.

974
00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:12,933
Speaker 2: Oh that's so special. Okay, we're almost out of time,

975
00:51:13,013 --> 00:51:16,293
Speaker 2: so give us the patch. Why should people, maybe even

976
00:51:16,333 --> 00:51:18,973
Speaker 2: people who haven't seen a Black Gray Show in years

977
00:51:19,053 --> 00:51:21,373
Speaker 2: or if ever before, why should they headlong to rage?

978
00:51:21,453 --> 00:51:21,693
Speaker 6: Rage?

979
00:51:24,853 --> 00:51:25,613
Speaker 12: Do you want to get first?

980
00:51:27,013 --> 00:51:27,853
Speaker 2: Come along to rage?

981
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:28,213
Speaker 6: Rage?

982
00:51:28,773 --> 00:51:34,653
Speaker 12: It's reflective of our society and everything we see and

983
00:51:34,813 --> 00:51:37,533
Speaker 12: experience here and ulti at all as well as internationally.

984
00:51:37,773 --> 00:51:38,413
Speaker 6: And I think.

985
00:51:39,973 --> 00:51:43,333
Speaker 12: If contemporary dance kind of isn't your thing, storytelling might

986
00:51:43,373 --> 00:51:45,453
Speaker 12: be your thing. And so there's a powerful story in it.

987
00:51:45,613 --> 00:51:49,613
Speaker 12: There are a lot of different perspectives to explore. And yeah,

988
00:51:49,653 --> 00:51:51,933
Speaker 12: we invite you to come and have a conversation with us.

989
00:51:52,213 --> 00:51:54,933
Speaker 12: So don't just come for entertainment, come for all of

990
00:51:55,013 --> 00:51:58,453
Speaker 12: the storytelling. Even storytelling. Everybody loves a good story.

991
00:51:58,573 --> 00:52:01,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, Justice, anything you want to add, No, I think

992
00:52:01,613 --> 00:52:03,333
Speaker 2: Leaky hit it right on the money. I'll just add

993
00:52:03,333 --> 00:52:05,133
Speaker 2: it and say you can see Justice in a show

994
00:52:05,173 --> 00:52:08,173
Speaker 2: that he never thought he'd be performed Grace. It's his

995
00:52:08,293 --> 00:52:11,093
Speaker 2: first performance as a sort of semi professional dancer, so

996
00:52:11,173 --> 00:52:12,813
Speaker 2: you've got to see that at the very least. Yeah,

997
00:52:13,813 --> 00:52:16,373
Speaker 2: thank you so much, guys. Congratulations on the show and

998
00:52:16,893 --> 00:52:19,453
Speaker 2: all the very best. We really appreciate it. Leaky, Jackson

999
00:52:19,533 --> 00:52:23,293
Speaker 2: Bork and Justice, Color Law and of course Rage Rage

1000
00:52:23,413 --> 00:52:26,253
Speaker 2: is going to be opening at Auckland's Altiar Center. It's

1001
00:52:26,253 --> 00:52:28,773
Speaker 2: going to be showing June fourth and fifth. There's more

1002
00:52:28,813 --> 00:52:31,333
Speaker 2: info at Black Grace dot co dot nz and we'll

1003
00:52:31,333 --> 00:52:33,373
Speaker 2: have details on the news talks. He'd be website as well.

1004
00:52:35,373 --> 00:52:37,213
Speaker 6: Start your weekend off in style.

1005
00:52:37,453 --> 00:52:40,933
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bpure Dot Code, Dot

1006
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Speaker 1: Inset for high quality supplements.

1007
00:52:43,013 --> 00:52:43,853
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1008
00:52:44,053 --> 00:52:46,813
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes past ten on News Talks EDB. You've

1009
00:52:46,813 --> 00:52:49,293
Speaker 2: got a busy hour on News Talks HEB this hour,

1010
00:52:49,373 --> 00:52:51,893
Speaker 2: So before eleven o'clock we're going to talk to our

1011
00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:54,413
Speaker 2: personal finance expert about what the key we saver changes

1012
00:52:54,533 --> 00:52:56,453
Speaker 2: mean for you. Plus someone to talk to our text

1013
00:52:56,493 --> 00:53:00,773
Speaker 2: Bert about whether he thinks the genius behind the iPod design,

1014
00:53:01,013 --> 00:53:05,213
Speaker 2: the iPad design, the Mac design can do it once again,

1015
00:53:05,653 --> 00:53:07,613
Speaker 2: even if he's not with Apple. So we'll lask that

1016
00:53:07,773 --> 00:53:09,493
Speaker 2: very shortly. Right now, though, it is time to get

1017
00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:13,773
Speaker 2: your screen time picks for this weekend. Tara Award has

1018
00:53:13,853 --> 00:53:16,173
Speaker 2: three shows to recommend for us this morning. Colt to

1019
00:53:16,253 --> 00:53:20,253
Speaker 2: Tara Yiada. Okay, let's begin with a new show on Netflix.

1020
00:53:20,293 --> 00:53:21,453
Speaker 2: Tell us about Sirens.

1021
00:53:22,413 --> 00:53:25,373
Speaker 15: Yes, there's a new American drama that stars Julianne Moore,

1022
00:53:25,573 --> 00:53:28,373
Speaker 15: Kevin Bacon, and Meghan Faihey from White Lotus. And it's

1023
00:53:28,413 --> 00:53:31,973
Speaker 15: one of those glossy Netflix dramas that grabs you from

1024
00:53:32,013 --> 00:53:35,013
Speaker 15: the first episode and just pulls you in. Meghan Fayhee

1025
00:53:35,053 --> 00:53:37,493
Speaker 15: plays Devon, who is a bit of a mess. She's

1026
00:53:37,573 --> 00:53:41,293
Speaker 15: been looking after her father who's just been diagnosed with Alzheimer's,

1027
00:53:41,413 --> 00:53:44,893
Speaker 15: and she impulsively decides to go and visit her sister

1028
00:53:45,053 --> 00:53:47,773
Speaker 15: in New England and try and persuade her to come

1029
00:53:47,813 --> 00:53:50,613
Speaker 15: home and help her look after their dad. She finds

1030
00:53:50,653 --> 00:53:54,173
Speaker 15: her sister, Simone, working as the assistant to a billionaire

1031
00:53:54,293 --> 00:53:58,013
Speaker 15: socialite who's played by Julian Moore, and Simon is caught

1032
00:53:58,093 --> 00:54:00,573
Speaker 15: up in this world. She feels a bit like a

1033
00:54:00,653 --> 00:54:04,093
Speaker 15: cult and she has this very creepy relationship with her boss,

1034
00:54:04,293 --> 00:54:07,733
Speaker 15: and so Devon is determined to rescue her sister and

1035
00:54:07,853 --> 00:54:10,293
Speaker 15: work out why Julian Moore's character has so much power

1036
00:54:10,373 --> 00:54:13,373
Speaker 15: over her. And it's hard not to compare Sirens to

1037
00:54:13,853 --> 00:54:16,413
Speaker 15: the White Lotus because this is all about sort of

1038
00:54:16,493 --> 00:54:19,693
Speaker 15: the whims of the wealthy and the power and balances

1039
00:54:19,733 --> 00:54:22,373
Speaker 15: between the workers and the rich. It's set in this

1040
00:54:23,173 --> 00:54:26,653
Speaker 15: glamorous Martha's Vineyard kind of world, and the relationship between

1041
00:54:26,693 --> 00:54:30,493
Speaker 15: the two sisters is quite complicated and troubled. So you've

1042
00:54:30,493 --> 00:54:32,693
Speaker 15: got all the ingredients here for a great series. And

1043
00:54:32,733 --> 00:54:34,893
Speaker 15: what I liked about this was it that it's got

1044
00:54:34,973 --> 00:54:38,613
Speaker 15: the balance right between being a serious drama but also

1045
00:54:38,693 --> 00:54:41,333
Speaker 15: being a little bit trashy, a little bit soapy, some

1046
00:54:41,493 --> 00:54:43,853
Speaker 15: great twists and turns. You know, it is just enough

1047
00:54:43,893 --> 00:54:46,253
Speaker 15: to keep you hot. And Julian Moore is so god

1048
00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:46,773
Speaker 15: in this as well.

1049
00:54:46,813 --> 00:54:47,613
Speaker 2: I really like this one.

1050
00:54:47,733 --> 00:54:47,933
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1051
00:54:48,013 --> 00:54:50,493
Speaker 2: Nice, Okay cool. That's Sirens. So it's on Netflix on

1052
00:54:50,573 --> 00:54:52,733
Speaker 2: Prime Video. Tell us about the new series of Nine

1053
00:54:52,933 --> 00:54:54,093
Speaker 2: Perfect Strangers.

1054
00:54:55,133 --> 00:54:59,773
Speaker 15: Yeah, second season of this American drama about an unusual

1055
00:54:59,893 --> 00:55:02,213
Speaker 15: wellness retreat. This is based on the book by Leanne

1056
00:55:02,213 --> 00:55:05,773
Speaker 15: Moriarty and it stars Nicole Kidman who plays Marsha who

1057
00:55:06,573 --> 00:55:10,013
Speaker 15: it's the leader of this boutique health and wellness retreat

1058
00:55:10,173 --> 00:55:12,853
Speaker 15: and a bit like Julian Moore's character in Sirens, this

1059
00:55:13,013 --> 00:55:17,453
Speaker 15: retreat has some colfish vibes to it. Nine strangers arrive

1060
00:55:17,533 --> 00:55:20,373
Speaker 15: at the retreat for a ten days stay. They are

1061
00:55:20,693 --> 00:55:24,573
Speaker 15: expecting a healing sanctuary and to the chance to sort

1062
00:55:24,613 --> 00:55:27,613
Speaker 15: out their big problems. But Marcia has her own agenda

1063
00:55:27,773 --> 00:55:30,333
Speaker 15: and she's prepared to use her guests to make that happen.

1064
00:55:30,493 --> 00:55:33,213
Speaker 15: And so the guests just find themselves dealing with a

1065
00:55:33,293 --> 00:55:35,693
Speaker 15: whole lot of new problems and season one is filmed

1066
00:55:35,733 --> 00:55:37,973
Speaker 15: in Barron Bay, but the second season is filmed in

1067
00:55:38,053 --> 00:55:41,493
Speaker 15: Austria in winter, so some beautiful scenery, but it feels

1068
00:55:41,573 --> 00:55:43,613
Speaker 15: quite different to the first. It feels a lot darker

1069
00:55:44,093 --> 00:55:48,533
Speaker 15: and more uneasy. Mark Strong, Murray Bartlett, and Christine Baranski

1070
00:55:48,653 --> 00:55:50,813
Speaker 15: star in season two, so there's some great talent involved

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Speaker 15: in this. And Nicole Kin mins back as well. She's

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Speaker 15: still doing her Russian accent, which I find a little

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Speaker 15: bit distracted, because.

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Speaker 16: Yes, we're here and there.

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Speaker 15: But if you do like those Leanne Moriarty books, if

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Speaker 15: you like Big Little Lies or The Perfect Couple or

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Speaker 15: some of those other David E. Kelly adaptations, you'll like

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Speaker 15: this as well.

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Speaker 6: Very good.

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Speaker 2: So that's on Prime Video. Nine Perfect Strangers on Disney Plus.

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Speaker 2: Tucci in Italy.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, something light and fabulous and delicious to finish with today.

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Speaker 15: This is a new food travel documentary series on Dassie Plus.

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Speaker 15: It's the latest from American actor Stanley Tucci, who has

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Speaker 15: made a name for himself in making award winning travel

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Speaker 15: documentary series about Italy, and this is his latest five

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Speaker 15: episodes and in each one he goes to a different

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Speaker 15: region in Italy and delves into the food and the

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Speaker 15: connections to the land and the history of the region.

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Speaker 15: And because Stanley Tucci is part Italian, he speaks a language,

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Speaker 15: he's lived there. He's a real foodie. He just makes

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Speaker 15: it all come alive. And in the first episode he's

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Speaker 15: in Tuscany and he's eating different types of offal. He's

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Speaker 15: eading cow stomach and tongue and tripe and I tell

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Speaker 15: you it looks delicious.

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Speaker 1: Yea.

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Speaker 15: He talks to the she and the street stall owners

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Speaker 15: and the home cooks. You know, there's lots of variety

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Speaker 15: and it feels very authentic, and he's so interested in

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Speaker 15: what he's eating, and that passion and enthusiasm really comes across.

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Speaker 15: It's just a light, lovely, colorful show to escape a.

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Speaker 2: Bit of escapism. Yeah, nice, very good. Okay, So that's

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Speaker 2: Tucci in Italy. It's on Disney Plus nine, Perfect Strangers

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Speaker 2: is on Prime Video, Sirens is on Netflix and all

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Speaker 2: those shows are of course on the news talk z'db website. Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for your feedback. The messages continue

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Speaker 2: to flood in regarding superannuation and the pension in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand this morning. So Dean Flick me a note to

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Speaker 2: say Jack. As far as I'm concerned, superannuation is one

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Speaker 2: of the many problems that Labor and New Zealand First

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00:57:48,413 --> 00:57:51,613
Speaker 2: refused to deal with, and National doesn't deal with enough

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Speaker 2: the present super. The present superannuation as it's almost completely

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Speaker 2: funded out of current taxation, so it is therefore a benefit,

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Speaker 2: not a return on savings, should in my view, be

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00:58:03,213 --> 00:58:06,973
Speaker 2: abated from a certain generous level of income until it pears.

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Speaker 2: Those of us who don't need it should not get it,

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00:58:10,693 --> 00:58:14,173
Speaker 2: much like the crazy universal winter heating subsidy, says Dean,

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Speaker 2: thank you for that. Dean, get this. I actually got

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Speaker 2: a message from a former New Zealand First MP who

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Speaker 2: has asked me not to say their name, so I

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Speaker 2: will respect that to say yes, Jack regarding superannuation. Changing

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00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:32,613
Speaker 2: the age of super from sixty five to sixty seven

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Speaker 2: would simply never fly with Winston Peters because he knows

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Speaker 2: it would lose the party votes, so he told us

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Speaker 2: that New Zealand First would never support it. You certainly

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00:58:40,973 --> 00:58:42,893
Speaker 2: feel that Winston Peters does have a lot of influence

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Speaker 2: on this issue in particular, and I got a note

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Speaker 2: from Dan to say Jack. Comparing Australia, and New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: It's really interesting. When I retire in Australia, I would

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Speaker 2: be unlikely to get the full government who beer due

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Speaker 2: to my high personal pension balance. For example, at one

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Speaker 2: point I was projected to have a four point five

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Speaker 2: million dollar balance in my own pension come retirement with

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Speaker 2: my nine percent company contribution soon to be twelve percent.

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Speaker 2: In New Zealand, my projection is nine hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's a big difference. He says though, that means testing

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Speaker 2: in Australia does lead to a lot of avoidance, and

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Speaker 2: this is one of the problems with means testing when

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00:59:17,293 --> 00:59:19,733
Speaker 2: it comes to means testing for super as opposed to

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Speaker 2: for the government's Key we Save a contribution because with

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Speaker 2: key we savor they can simply say, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: the IOD has that detail. How much income did you

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00:59:27,813 --> 00:59:29,973
Speaker 2: have last year? Is it over one hundred and eighty grand? Right,

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Speaker 2: you're not getting the government contribution right. Ninety two ninety

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00:59:32,893 --> 00:59:34,253
Speaker 2: two is the text number. If you want to send

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Speaker 2: us a message this morning, you can email me as well.

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Speaker 2: Jacket Newstalks 'DB dot co dot end. It has just

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Speaker 2: gone eleven thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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00:59:49,293 --> 00:59:50,933
Speaker 1: on News TALKSB you.

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Speaker 2: Said you were saying, and I'm a sinner, but I

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Speaker 2: guess that I'm good enough when you're lonely.

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Speaker 8: That's when you come me.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, you were saying, I'm a sinner, but I guess

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Speaker 14: that I'm good enough when a stream and you're lonely

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Speaker 14: as long as I'm gone.

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Speaker 12: But in the Sunday mon.

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Speaker 11: So Cashier.

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Speaker 2: Sindam and that's MTS James of course together as he

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Speaker 2: is playing his final ever show tonight in christ Church,

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01:00:22,733 --> 01:00:25,013
Speaker 2: so matches two of the world. He's released two albums

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Speaker 2: open for Ed's Sheer and garnered thousands of fans everywhere

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Speaker 2: he's been. But he's announced that because of just the

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Speaker 2: kind of internal politics in the music world, that he's

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Speaker 2: decided he's going to step away from the music industry

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Speaker 2: for the sake of his integrity. Actually, he just said

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Speaker 2: that he started to kind of lose a sense of

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Speaker 2: who he was with some of the music he was creating.

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Speaker 2: So he's walking away with more than three hundred million

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Speaker 2: streams and he's released one final record for his fans.

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Speaker 2: The album is called This Is Not What I Had

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Speaker 2: in Mind, An apt title given the circumstances. So our

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Speaker 2: music reviewer is going to share with us her favorite

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Speaker 2: tracks and share a bit more about why Mitch has

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Speaker 2: made the decision to step away from music when he

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Speaker 2: joins us before midday, look forward to that before eleven

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Speaker 2: o'clock though, we're in the garden and route climb passed.

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Speaker 2: This week has had an amazing experience as they released Key.

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Speaker 2: We on why Heckey island of all places, So he's

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Speaker 2: going to tell us about that twenty six to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

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Speaker 17: Breakfast man, it's minister Nicola Willis is with us nineteen

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Speaker 17: year olds who are unemployed. You're going to mean to

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Speaker 17: test the parents.

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Speaker 2: I have talked to parents who say it's pretty tough

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Speaker 2: where Nicola.

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Speaker 17: Don't play this game with me. It depends where are

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Speaker 17: you going to mean to test the mat? Is it

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Speaker 17: one eighty plus or is it a lot lower? And

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Speaker 17: a lot of parents are going to go I can't

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Speaker 17: afford to do that.

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Speaker 10: We only really want it to be in exceptional circumstances

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Speaker 10: because our base expectation is if you can't get a job,

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Speaker 10: you should be in training.

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Speaker 8: You're talking much?

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Speaker 17: How much, Nicola? How much does a parent have to

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Speaker 17: earn before you ping them? Should it be one eighty plus?

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Speaker 8: Well, I actually think it should be less than that.

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Speaker 9: Kebnat will obviously have to.

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Speaker 17: Deliver it back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 17: Breakfast with Avida Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three to eleven on Newstalk ZEDB. Apple's design guru

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Speaker 2: has announced he's going to be working with open Ai

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Speaker 2: full time. Open Ai, of course is the company behind

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Speaker 2: chat GPT, but this is a guy who designed the iPod,

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Speaker 2: the iMac and the iPhone. So our Textbert Paul Steenhouse

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Speaker 2: will have been watching this development with keen interest and

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Speaker 2: is with us now. Paul, why is this such a

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Speaker 2: big deal?

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Speaker 18: Well, because he created the devices that have changed our world,

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Speaker 18: haven't they? And he's just got such a great mind

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Speaker 18: for creating simple products that were really just the light

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Speaker 18: people they work, They yeah, and that's it. He was

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Speaker 18: Steve jobs right hand man like for all of those products,

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Speaker 18: and he stepped away from Apple quite a few years ago.

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Speaker 18: He actually created and a design agency and partnered with

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Speaker 18: some interesting films. I don't think Airbnb was one of

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Speaker 18: his clients along the way. But two years ago he

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Speaker 18: created a company called Io. Now it's kind of a

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Speaker 18: little under the radar. It was actually funded in part

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Speaker 18: by open Ai. Then they've got a quarter share in

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Speaker 18: the company. Yeah, it's been kind of bubbling away under

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Speaker 18: the surface and trying to figure out what the next

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Speaker 18: product could be, right, the next big product could be,

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Speaker 18: and how does it incorporate Ai. And what's really interesting

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Speaker 18: is open Ai has now said that they're purchasing all

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Speaker 18: of Io for six point five billion dollars according to Bloomberg.

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Speaker 18: Not a small amount of cash, right, but with that

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Speaker 18: sort of money, you'd be thinking, okay, So that means

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Speaker 18: that Johnny Ive's going to be joining open ai as

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Speaker 18: a full time staff member.

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Speaker 8: But here's where it's weird.

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Speaker 18: He's not okay, But everybody else who's working on Io

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Speaker 18: is so effectively church gpt open Ai. They're going to

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Speaker 18: be getting now this new product that they're going to

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Speaker 18: be releasing, they're saying next year that they want to

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Speaker 18: ship to one hundred million users on day one. Wow,

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Speaker 18: mind blowing. But I is not going to be joining

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Speaker 18: an opening eye full time. He's going to be kind

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Speaker 18: of almost like contracting. I think through his company, his agency,

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Speaker 18: which I just found was really weird. If you've put

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Speaker 18: a six point five billion dollar price tag, wouldn't you

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Speaker 18: think that like he'd be employee number whatever and you know,

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Speaker 18: your chief design officer. But no, he'll just be working

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Speaker 18: full time with them. And I think it's it's certainly

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Speaker 18: raddlesome people. And you know that because the Apple share

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Speaker 18: price fell two percent on the news, and when you're

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Speaker 18: a harmony trillion dollar company, that is a rather large

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Speaker 18: amount of money. Because if Apple's not creating this product,

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Speaker 18: who is, Well, it very well could be him.

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Speaker 2: But he's put it, that's it. What is he making? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we don't know that yet.

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Speaker 18: No details have been released about this at all, but

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Speaker 18: it's said to not be the iPhone killer. It's supposed

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Speaker 18: to be sitting beside your MacBook beside your iPhone. The

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Speaker 18: idea is that it will be a third device. Sam Oltman,

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Speaker 18: the CEO, is kind of said.

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Speaker 16: So it's probably going to be a wearable.

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Speaker 18: But apparently Sa Moltman isn't too interested in wearables. But

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Speaker 18: I kind of don't know what else is going to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: sort of a kind of more sophisticated paper paperweight that

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Speaker 18: sits on your desk, but it may very well. I

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Speaker 18: mean it needs connection to the Internet most likely, right,

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Speaker 18: so it's probably going to be through your iPhone or

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Speaker 18: through your computer or something along those lines.

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Speaker 11: Guess, But no, no one knows anything about it.

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Speaker 18: Of course the Internet's like tried to guess and are

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Speaker 18: thinking of a few things, but no, we know nothing

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Speaker 18: about it. But we just know that they want to

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Speaker 18: go big and they've got the design brain.

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Speaker 2: Of what this passed? Yeah, interesting a few decades to

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Speaker 2: be alongside them very quickly, Paul, So that's open a

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Speaker 2: eye side of things. Google has revealed its new products

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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so they had their big conference and three things

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Speaker 18: that stood up to me, Jack. Android is getting smart glasses,

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Speaker 18: So we don't know.

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Speaker 11: Much about this apartment.

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Speaker 18: It's called Project Aura, but they're going to deliver what

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Speaker 18: they're calling mixed reality through those smart classes, so I

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Speaker 18: imagine it's kind of augmented reality, right, because they're coming

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Speaker 18: equipped with microphones, cameras. Their Gemini AI integration is the

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Speaker 18: thing as well, so I guess you'll be able to

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Speaker 18: do the translate stuff and the what is that thing,

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Speaker 18: all that kind of stuff. Google Shopping is going to

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Speaker 18: get a new feature where it will let you try

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Speaker 18: on an outfit using AI. So you take a full

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Speaker 18: body photo of yourself and Google says that it's figured

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Speaker 18: out the AI to work out human bodies, the nuances

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Speaker 18: of clothing, fabric, how they fold, streets, drape, all of

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Speaker 18: that kind of stuff, and you'll be able to see

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Speaker 18: what you'll look like in an outfit. Sounds pretty interesting.

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Speaker 18: And Gmail's smart replies are getting even smarter. They're going

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Speaker 18: to start looking at other emails that you've received or ascending.

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Speaker 18: It will know who's been sending it to you, So

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Speaker 18: maybe the tone you send an email back to your

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Speaker 18: boss will be a little bit different than the yol

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Speaker 18: what up that you send to your friends. It's going

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Speaker 18: to have access to your Google Drive too, So I thought.

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Speaker 11: Those are three things that are kind of interesting.

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Speaker 18: But they had a stack of announcements obviously very AI.

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Speaker 2: Related days You can yeah, of course, hey, thanks, Paul,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. As always called. Paul Stenhouse is our text Burt.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of minutes, we'll have our personal finance

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Speaker 2: expert to explain what the key we saver changes announced

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Speaker 2: in the budget are going to mean for you, and

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Speaker 2: then the new Kiwi on Wayhiki before eleven o'clock. Right

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Speaker 2: now it's eighteen to eleven.

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Speaker 6: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tam and BEP

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Speaker 2: B sixteen to eleven. So it was kind of not

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Speaker 2: necessarily the centerpiece, but a big part of the government's budgets.

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Speaker 2: On Thursday, several changes, notable changes to the key we

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Speaker 2: Save a scheme. Lisa Dudson is our personal finance expert

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Speaker 2: and she's with us. Now, Hey Lisa, good morning Jack.

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Speaker 2: So let's run through a couple of these changes and

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Speaker 2: explain what they're going to mean for people. Let's start

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Speaker 2: off with the contribution rate, so they're staggering the increase

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Speaker 2: from three percent up to four percent. It goes to

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Speaker 2: three and a half percent next year and then to

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Speaker 2: four percent by April twenty twenty eight. What's this going

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Speaker 2: to mean?

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Speaker 10: Well, I actually think for most people it's going to

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Speaker 10: be a really good thing because because I guess it's

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Speaker 10: going to be growing their balances for the long term,

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Speaker 10: so that's you know, no one can really complain about that.

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Speaker 10: It also helps home buyers build up a bigger deposit

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Speaker 10: for their home. The challenge has been for you know,

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Speaker 10: some commentators believe it's going to be a little bit

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Speaker 10: harder for those who are on a lower income to

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Speaker 10: be able to afford those full percent increases when they

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Speaker 10: come in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, can you understand how that might be

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Speaker 2: tricky for some people. But yeah, by staggering, hopefully you know,

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Speaker 2: they'll be able to make that transition. It's also going

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Speaker 2: to be a little bit harder for business as well,

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Speaker 2: of course, I mean this.

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Speaker 4: Is good, you know.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well yeah, and given you times are tough and

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Speaker 10: we're still in a bit of a cost of living crisis,

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Speaker 10: so you know, I think, you know, it's trying to

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Speaker 10: balance that short term versus long term, right because on

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Speaker 10: one hand we kind of go, we're things are a

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Speaker 10: bit tough at the moment, just but on the other hand,

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Speaker 10: we're going, well, if we don't start contributing more to

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Speaker 10: our super then we're having hard time financially. You know,

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Speaker 10: we post that five so you know, it's just trying

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Speaker 10: to find the balance. And interestingly, when you compare it

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Speaker 10: to Australia who started it sort of three to four

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Speaker 10: percent in nineteen ninety two. It took them almost twenty

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Speaker 10: years to start to increase it to nine percent, and

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Speaker 10: then now it's July. I think it is twelve and July. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: So that's kind of where we need to be heading.

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Speaker 10: And I guess once these changes come in, we'll be

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Speaker 10: at eight between the employee or closet eight between the

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Speaker 10: employee and the employer.

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Speaker 2: So we're you know, we're getting there twelve percent. You

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Speaker 2: think about that like a quarter of you know, if

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Speaker 2: you have a twelve percent employee salary, twelve percent contribution

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Speaker 2: from the employer as well, you're looking at a quarter

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Speaker 2: of your salary.

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Speaker 10: And I checked if not, yeah, I know, if I

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Speaker 10: needed yeah here, oh yeah, okay, I checked.

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Speaker 2: I checked out the tax rates too, for the for

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Speaker 2: the employer contribution and for most people I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: depending on incomes, most people would be taxed less on

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Speaker 2: the employer contributions in Australia than they would in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand as well, which is interesting. So the scheme's being

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Speaker 2: extended now from to sixteen and seventeen year olds, so

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Speaker 2: you get automatically enrolled in, can we say for at eighteen,

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Speaker 2: but you can voluntarily opt in a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be a good thing, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Because you have a couple of extra years to sort

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Speaker 10: of build towards your home deposit or you and or

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Speaker 10: you know, your future retirement pot of money.

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Speaker 13: So you know, that's great.

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Speaker 10: I think the other side effect is that might be

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Speaker 10: that younger people are starting to get a sense of,

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Speaker 10: you know, how the financial world works from it slightly

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Speaker 10: younger age, So that can't be bad. So I think

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Speaker 10: I think most of we should be pretty happy about

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Speaker 10: that new policy.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the government contribution changes though?

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Speaker 10: Ah, you know, again it's you know, as always trying

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Speaker 10: to find that balance between different people circumstances. But I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, they're trying to save the money overall. I

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Speaker 10: guess the government's trying to be a bit more fiscally

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Speaker 10: responsible because they realize that there's been more money going

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Speaker 10: out and coming in the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 10: sometimes that comes home to roost. So you know, for

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Speaker 10: some people it's not necessarily you're not ideal, you know,

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Speaker 10: the effect cost for most people if they are contributing

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Speaker 10: to QPSABER Its two hundred and sixty dollars a year

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Speaker 10: doesn't sound like a lot, but it does aid up

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Speaker 10: over time. You know, for those under one hundred and

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Speaker 10: eighty thousand, it's been paid over one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 10: thousand dollars, they lose it all together. Is it really

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Speaker 10: going to make a difference to people earning that high

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Speaker 10: level of income? No, so maybe not necessarily ideal, but

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Speaker 10: you know, you can't have everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. It's gonna be fascinating to see

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Speaker 2: how it all, you know, unfolds over the next months

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Speaker 2: and years. Thank you very much, Lisa. Important to point

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Speaker 2: out too that I think the big changes for the contribution,

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Speaker 2: for the government contribution, they don't come into effect until

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Speaker 2: next year. So at the moment, if you haven't if

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Speaker 2: you like, if you're self employed, for example, and you

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Speaker 2: want the government contribution, you could go in and do

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Speaker 2: the minimum or do the do the one and forty

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Speaker 2: two dollars. I think it's by the end of June,

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Speaker 2: and if you've got it in on time. So long

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Speaker 2: as you've got it in on time, you will get

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Speaker 2: the maximum government contribution for this year, which is what

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01:12:10,693 --> 01:12:13,373
Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty one dollars, So next year it'll

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Speaker 2: be different, but you get the maximum contribution five hundred

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01:12:15,973 --> 01:12:17,493
Speaker 2: and twenty one dollars this year, so long as you

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Speaker 2: make that contribution on time. It is eleven to eleven.

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Speaker 2: You were Jack Taime on News doorgs E'd be.

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Speaker 1: Gardening with still shaft free autumn upgrades on Still's best sellers.

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Speaker 2: Road Climb Past is our man in the garden. He's

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Speaker 2: here with us this morning.

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Speaker 8: Hey, road hate Jack.

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Speaker 16: I should have been in the garden because I just

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Speaker 16: realized this was the Britannic Gardens Week.

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Speaker 8: It finishes tomorrow, and it totally went under my rate.

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Speaker 2: What do we do for Potanna Gardens Week? We just

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Speaker 2: go to the Botanna Gardens.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, but also you'll find that they have most of

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Speaker 16: the good Britennic gardens that are part of it, will

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Speaker 16: have very good trees and shrubs and plants to show,

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Speaker 16: which are really important things for New Zealand's flora, if

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Speaker 16: you know.

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01:13:01,653 --> 01:13:03,333
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, fauna and flora.

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Speaker 16: So that that's you know, with Gaca beak and short

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01:13:06,053 --> 01:13:08,933
Speaker 16: blue spurge and things like that. But also missiletes I

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Speaker 16: saw I missed the missiletoe.

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Speaker 2: Oh never mind, I'm sorry. Yeah, oh, because the missiletes

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Speaker 2: it's quite rare, eh, it can be are not that

1441
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Speaker 2: ray of.

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Speaker 16: Chi indeed, but they are parasitic plants.

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Speaker 8: And then itself is quite weird and then you are yeah.

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01:13:26,973 --> 01:13:30,493
Speaker 8: But instead last week I went and knocked around with kiwi.

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01:13:30,773 --> 01:13:33,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how good. So I had no idea about

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Speaker 2: this until you drew my attention to it. But they

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01:13:35,693 --> 01:13:38,053
Speaker 2: have released Kiwi on way Hiki Island.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we did that last Friday.

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Speaker 16: Indeed, it was a really big lot of enthusiastic restoration

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01:13:46,093 --> 01:13:50,013
Speaker 16: organizations and it was started years and years decades ago

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Speaker 16: by me made the late Sir Robert Finnick. He was

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Speaker 16: a name in conservation and his wife Lady Finnick, Lady Jenny,

1453
01:13:58,213 --> 01:14:01,053
Speaker 16: so so he started it off and for me it

1454
01:14:01,213 --> 01:14:03,973
Speaker 16: was quite actually emotional because Rob and I were always

1455
01:14:04,013 --> 01:14:06,133
Speaker 16: talking about doing this and here it.

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Speaker 8: It was amazing. Ten birds were translocated from Panui Island which.

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Speaker 16: Is next door to to Onehiki and and they were

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Speaker 16: literally that was that was unbelievable. There were groups like

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Speaker 16: Safety Key we did trust that I'm bad off, but

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01:14:24,933 --> 01:14:31,413
Speaker 16: also Nati Power and Nightiki Tamaki, Whitehiki, doc Po, Neuwie

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Speaker 16: Island landowners, volunteers and primary school kids of course, because

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Speaker 16: I trained those to be Kiwi.

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Speaker 8: If you're like Kiwi helpers for the rest of the life,

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Speaker 8: that what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So where do they go on the island. I mean

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Speaker 2: presumably well down in the middle of enjoying.

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Speaker 8: They will be there. They will be going there.

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Speaker 16: Really, I'm quite I'm quite convinced they well, yeah, amazing,

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Speaker 16: they will.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: But in the meantime, those ten were we were put

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Speaker 16: on the east coast, on the south where Robin Jenny

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Speaker 16: used to live actually, and that it's a fabulously predative

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Speaker 16: free forest with really nice, nice vegetation and things like that.

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Speaker 16: But they do go to urban areas because we've got

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Speaker 16: them in all sorts of urban areas, places like fakatani

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Speaker 16: and fugging.

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Speaker 8: Their heads and things like that.

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Speaker 17: There you go.

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Speaker 16: But anyway, in an urban area, what do you think

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Speaker 16: jack is the most dangerous animal for a Kiwi in.

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Speaker 2: An urban area, I would say, ah, as a rat

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Speaker 2: or as a dog. It'll be a dog.

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Speaker 16: It's definitely as a dog. And there something like sixteen

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Speaker 16: hundred dogs on the island. So what I did over

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Speaker 16: the last couple of months, or actually last year, I

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Speaker 16: talked to the kids about them becoming my kiwi if

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Speaker 16: you like helpers by looking after actually explaining to people

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Speaker 16: that have their dog off lead, you know, to say,

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Speaker 16: excuse me, do you know that they don't have wings

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Speaker 16: and therefore they don't the keel, and therefore all their

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Speaker 16: bones inside their body are not attached to each other.

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Speaker 8: That means that even a small dog would put a

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Speaker 8: leg on top of a key, it can crusty inside

1495
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:21,733
Speaker 8: off the bird within. Yeah, it's sad stuff. Yeah, so

1496
01:16:22,213 --> 01:16:25,013
Speaker 8: these kids are going to be my embassadors. And I

1497
01:16:25,253 --> 01:16:28,293
Speaker 8: always this. You'll find this later on too. Try saying

1498
01:16:28,453 --> 01:16:29,853
Speaker 8: no to a ten year old.

1499
01:16:30,213 --> 01:16:33,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's good. It's a very little psychological trick there.

1500
01:16:35,293 --> 01:16:35,533
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1501
01:16:36,373 --> 01:16:38,693
Speaker 2: First, what can be a bit of a slightly confrontational,

1502
01:16:38,813 --> 01:16:42,813
Speaker 2: awkward conversation. No, that's very wise. I mean, so do

1503
01:16:42,893 --> 01:16:46,373
Speaker 2: you reckon like if you you know, if you look

1504
01:16:46,373 --> 01:16:48,533
Speaker 2: at this, you're try and remove all bias from the equation.

1505
01:16:48,933 --> 01:16:51,173
Speaker 2: Do you think we could get to a state where

1506
01:16:51,173 --> 01:16:54,533
Speaker 2: we actually see kiwi and many more urban environments, because

1507
01:16:54,533 --> 01:16:56,373
Speaker 2: I mean, we have native bush all around the country,

1508
01:16:56,413 --> 01:16:58,933
Speaker 2: But you know it is it inconceivable we could have

1509
01:16:59,053 --> 01:17:01,173
Speaker 2: Key Wei and the white Tuckety Rangers and that kind

1510
01:17:01,173 --> 01:17:01,413
Speaker 2: of thing.

1511
01:17:02,413 --> 01:17:05,613
Speaker 16: Absolutely, We've We've got them in Wellington, We've got them

1512
01:17:05,613 --> 01:17:08,613
Speaker 16: in Tara. Nikki at them in Nelson, now you know.

1513
01:17:09,133 --> 01:17:11,933
Speaker 16: And as I said, what was that fuer ay heads.

1514
01:17:12,253 --> 01:17:15,053
Speaker 16: They're just they're running around there. And the cool thing

1515
01:17:15,413 --> 01:17:19,533
Speaker 16: was that that David Chamberlain, that landowner who literally donated

1516
01:17:19,613 --> 01:17:23,933
Speaker 16: those kiwi. He wrote the most amazing little pros about,

1517
01:17:24,733 --> 01:17:27,773
Speaker 16: he said, because they'd had them on Pona since nineteen

1518
01:17:27,853 --> 01:17:31,813
Speaker 16: sixty four. There fifteen hundred kiwi on that island. They

1519
01:17:31,813 --> 01:17:35,733
Speaker 16: would say sometimes they wander into our houses and make

1520
01:17:35,813 --> 01:17:37,893
Speaker 16: their prison stone by putting.

1521
01:17:37,653 --> 01:17:41,133
Speaker 8: Their beaks through the coursettes, et cetera. It's brilliant.

1522
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:43,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's so amazing. We're going to make sure

1523
01:17:43,453 --> 01:17:45,973
Speaker 2: photos are on the news talks ZIB website. Thank you, Rhode.

1524
01:17:46,013 --> 01:17:49,613
Speaker 2: It sounds like a really special day. Almost eleven o'clock.

1525
01:17:49,773 --> 01:17:51,733
Speaker 2: News is next on Newstalks.

1526
01:17:51,253 --> 01:17:56,853
Speaker 1: ZIB Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going

1527
01:17:56,973 --> 01:17:59,933
Speaker 1: through the weekend with Bpure dot cot on ins here

1528
01:18:00,053 --> 01:18:49,213
Speaker 1: for high quality supplements NEWSTALKSBOD.

1529
01:18:26,413 --> 01:18:29,533
Speaker 2: Morning Jack Tame with you through to midday on news

1530
01:18:29,573 --> 01:18:32,613
Speaker 2: talk z b Ah. The pecker pickert is finally kicking off.

1531
01:18:33,173 --> 01:18:36,893
Speaker 2: So last year it was I decided to get a

1532
01:18:36,933 --> 01:18:40,493
Speaker 2: bird feeder at our place. I'm quite lucky. We've got uh, well,

1533
01:18:41,173 --> 01:18:43,933
Speaker 2: we have what remains of several quiet, nice trees. Now

1534
01:18:43,973 --> 01:18:45,653
Speaker 2: we've got quite a bit of greenery out the back

1535
01:18:45,693 --> 01:18:50,333
Speaker 2: of my place in Auckland. And yeah, I've noticed a

1536
01:18:50,333 --> 01:18:52,613
Speaker 2: few native birds around the past to all that kind

1537
01:18:52,613 --> 01:18:54,813
Speaker 2: of thing. But last year I finally pulled the trigger

1538
01:18:54,933 --> 01:18:58,173
Speaker 2: and got a bird feeder, and it's just been amazing.

1539
01:18:58,213 --> 01:18:59,973
Speaker 2: It's been one of these things that I've really kind

1540
01:19:00,013 --> 01:19:05,333
Speaker 2: of been surprised by, like what joy it gives me

1541
01:19:05,573 --> 01:19:07,813
Speaker 2: seeing the numberumber of native birds that come and feed

1542
01:19:07,853 --> 01:19:10,453
Speaker 2: at my place. And of course over summer, the native

1543
01:19:10,493 --> 01:19:13,533
Speaker 2: birds that are you know, going and you know, drinking

1544
01:19:13,693 --> 01:19:17,613
Speaker 2: from you know, various native plants don't need quite as

1545
01:19:17,693 --> 01:19:20,213
Speaker 2: much of a top up. So I kept the pickapicker

1546
01:19:20,253 --> 01:19:21,493
Speaker 2: out there for a while, that's the name of the

1547
01:19:21,533 --> 01:19:23,373
Speaker 2: bird feeder. Keept it out there a while over summer,

1548
01:19:23,413 --> 01:19:25,253
Speaker 2: but it wasn't getting a whole lot of action. And

1549
01:19:25,293 --> 01:19:27,773
Speaker 2: I've been wondering about when to put it back up again,

1550
01:19:27,853 --> 01:19:30,413
Speaker 2: and what kind of interest I'd have, And clearly the

1551
01:19:30,493 --> 01:19:33,813
Speaker 2: birds have remembered from six months ago when they were

1552
01:19:33,893 --> 01:19:38,893
Speaker 2: last feeding. Because my goodness, the number of tui and toho,

1553
01:19:39,093 --> 01:19:42,373
Speaker 2: you know, the silver eyes and wax eyes that come

1554
01:19:42,453 --> 01:19:44,493
Speaker 2: and feed at my place. It's just such a joy.

1555
01:19:45,453 --> 01:19:47,453
Speaker 2: My wife's been on at me a little bit. She

1556
01:19:47,493 --> 01:19:49,293
Speaker 2: thinks I'm giving them more diabetes because I put too

1557
01:19:49,373 --> 01:19:52,533
Speaker 2: much sugar and the sugar water. But if you can

1558
01:19:52,613 --> 01:19:55,413
Speaker 2: get beyond that, it is just it's funny, right, You

1559
01:19:55,493 --> 01:19:57,973
Speaker 2: just had a time in life when, for whatever reason,

1560
01:19:58,453 --> 01:20:01,573
Speaker 2: seeing native birds, seeing them regularly, it just gives you

1561
01:20:01,813 --> 01:20:05,053
Speaker 2: such a kind of sense of serenity and joy.

1562
01:20:05,253 --> 01:20:05,453
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1563
01:20:05,533 --> 01:20:08,213
Speaker 2: So anyway, the pecker pecker is back up at my place,

1564
01:20:08,253 --> 01:20:10,133
Speaker 2: and I don't know what it is. It must just

1565
01:20:10,213 --> 01:20:13,453
Speaker 2: be a seasonal thing. As soon as the leaves start

1566
01:20:13,533 --> 01:20:16,893
Speaker 2: to change, the weather gets a little bit cooler, the

1567
01:20:16,973 --> 01:20:19,573
Speaker 2: birds all get a little bit hungrier all of a sudden,

1568
01:20:20,053 --> 01:20:22,453
Speaker 2: coming in for a feed that's a whole lot easier

1569
01:20:22,533 --> 01:20:25,653
Speaker 2: than they might be finding without, it just becomes an

1570
01:20:25,693 --> 01:20:28,533
Speaker 2: attractive prospect for them. So they can't recommend it enough.

1571
01:20:28,693 --> 01:20:31,453
Speaker 2: If you are considering getting a bird feeder at your place.

1572
01:20:31,573 --> 01:20:33,813
Speaker 2: Now is the time to get it up. Feed the

1573
01:20:33,893 --> 01:20:36,213
Speaker 2: native birds over winter, top them up a little bit

1574
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:38,333
Speaker 2: if they're getting a little bit peckish, and you will

1575
01:20:38,453 --> 01:20:42,253
Speaker 2: not regret it. Coming up before midday. On news talks,

1576
01:20:42,253 --> 01:20:44,573
Speaker 2: he'd be We're gonna have a listen to Mitch James.

1577
01:20:44,893 --> 01:20:47,853
Speaker 2: He's playing his last ever concert tonight, which just seems

1578
01:20:47,853 --> 01:20:50,133
Speaker 2: like a crazy thing to me. I'm not into these

1579
01:20:50,173 --> 01:20:53,973
Speaker 2: New Zealand artists deciding to have last ever concerts. Yet

1580
01:20:54,293 --> 01:20:56,933
Speaker 2: she had doing their last ever tour. Now Mitch James

1581
01:20:56,973 --> 01:21:00,213
Speaker 2: saying he's performing his last ever concert. But basically he's

1582
01:21:00,293 --> 01:21:02,693
Speaker 2: just absolutely fed up with things in the music world.

1583
01:21:02,933 --> 01:21:05,493
Speaker 2: He has had a huge amount of success over the

1584
01:21:05,533 --> 01:21:07,693
Speaker 2: last couple of years. He's been opening for Ed Sheeran

1585
01:21:07,893 --> 01:21:11,053
Speaker 2: fans around the world, hundreds of thousands of streams, if

1586
01:21:11,093 --> 01:21:13,933
Speaker 2: not millions of streams on or definitely millions of streams

1587
01:21:13,973 --> 01:21:18,053
Speaker 2: on Spotify, and yet he's decided that he's sick of things.

1588
01:21:18,213 --> 01:21:22,013
Speaker 2: He's actually stepping down for integrity reasons. So our music

1589
01:21:22,093 --> 01:21:23,733
Speaker 2: review is going to tell us a little bit more

1590
01:21:23,933 --> 01:21:27,053
Speaker 2: of the detail behind that. Plus we will pay you

1591
01:21:27,213 --> 01:21:30,733
Speaker 2: play you a couple of her picks for best Mitch

1592
01:21:30,893 --> 01:21:33,613
Speaker 2: James Tracks, and we'll play you some of his final

1593
01:21:33,733 --> 01:21:36,613
Speaker 2: album as well. As well as that, we've got to

1594
01:21:36,653 --> 01:21:38,853
Speaker 2: look at the first New Zealand book to go number

1595
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:41,533
Speaker 2: one this year, the latest from Catherine Chiggy. She is amazing,

1596
01:21:41,613 --> 01:21:43,133
Speaker 2: so look forward to that. Right now though, it's ten

1597
01:21:43,173 --> 01:21:46,373
Speaker 2: past eleven, Jack Team and time to catch up with

1598
01:21:46,573 --> 01:21:50,533
Speaker 2: a clinical psychologists from Umbrella Wellbeing. Google Sutherland is with

1599
01:21:50,773 --> 01:21:53,773
Speaker 2: us this morning. Hey doogle cure.

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Speaker 19: Jack, how you're speaking my language with the with the

1601
01:21:56,053 --> 01:22:01,013
Speaker 19: bird figure. We've got one like it's right, I can

1602
01:22:01,093 --> 01:22:02,893
Speaker 19: see it right now. It's right outside our window and

1603
01:22:02,973 --> 01:22:05,213
Speaker 19: we're lucky enough to get I just saw a Peter

1604
01:22:05,213 --> 01:22:08,813
Speaker 19: Wocka waker before. But we also we daily get visits

1605
01:22:08,813 --> 01:22:09,933
Speaker 19: from kaka oh.

1606
01:22:09,893 --> 01:22:11,533
Speaker 6: Do you yeah?

1607
01:22:11,613 --> 01:22:14,253
Speaker 2: You see see that's because you're you're in Wellington, right,

1608
01:22:14,333 --> 01:22:17,693
Speaker 2: So that's you get them in Wellington, you get them on.

1609
01:22:17,893 --> 01:22:20,653
Speaker 2: You get the kraka on Wayhiki a little bit on

1610
01:22:20,693 --> 01:22:22,773
Speaker 2: the golf islands and all. You don't get them in

1611
01:22:22,813 --> 01:22:24,813
Speaker 2: Central Aukland very much. The thing I love about the

1612
01:22:24,853 --> 01:22:31,333
Speaker 2: Kraka I reckon it's our most dinosaury bird like the

1613
01:22:31,453 --> 01:22:33,253
Speaker 2: way that I don't know. So the way that it

1614
01:22:33,333 --> 01:22:37,613
Speaker 2: kind of holds, it holds its body and and shifts

1615
01:22:37,613 --> 01:22:39,773
Speaker 2: its weight and stuff. There's something about the carca. I

1616
01:22:39,853 --> 01:22:42,413
Speaker 2: just think it looks so dinosaurian.

1617
01:22:43,213 --> 01:22:46,533
Speaker 19: And the screeches that it makes. Yeah, it sounds like

1618
01:22:46,773 --> 01:22:48,973
Speaker 19: it sounds like I imagine what a tear deck towards.

1619
01:22:49,173 --> 01:22:50,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1620
01:22:50,813 --> 01:22:51,653
Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, they are.

1621
01:22:51,813 --> 01:22:53,173
Speaker 2: They're wonderful. Yeah.

1622
01:22:54,533 --> 01:22:56,573
Speaker 19: Some ability to see at night, I think too, because

1623
01:22:56,653 --> 01:22:58,213
Speaker 19: we can hear them at night sometimes like in the

1624
01:22:58,253 --> 01:23:00,373
Speaker 19: middle of night, and they'll be squawking and flying.

1625
01:23:00,773 --> 01:23:03,413
Speaker 2: That's often I think, I wonder's the feeding time because

1626
01:23:03,413 --> 01:23:06,093
Speaker 2: you can see them. That's when they often circle kind

1627
01:23:06,093 --> 01:23:08,213
Speaker 2: of in the twilight a you know. So whether it's

1628
01:23:09,293 --> 01:23:12,213
Speaker 2: or you know, that kind of witching hour is a

1629
01:23:12,253 --> 01:23:16,253
Speaker 2: good time to be a carto. I think feeding feeding

1630
01:23:16,293 --> 01:23:17,933
Speaker 2: in the wild. Yeah, that's a good time. Good time

1631
01:23:17,973 --> 01:23:20,253
Speaker 2: for them to feed. Anyway. Glad that I'm not the

1632
01:23:20,293 --> 01:23:23,093
Speaker 2: only one who gets I just get like a disproportionate

1633
01:23:23,133 --> 01:23:24,053
Speaker 2: sense of joy out of it.

1634
01:23:24,173 --> 01:23:24,333
Speaker 4: Yea.

1635
01:23:24,613 --> 01:23:29,333
Speaker 2: And yeah, anyway, Hey, so last week or week ago now,

1636
01:23:29,373 --> 01:23:32,293
Speaker 2: it was Pink Shirt Day, which is a day that

1637
01:23:33,213 --> 01:23:36,813
Speaker 2: you know, as we know, promotes anti bullying measures, and

1638
01:23:36,893 --> 01:23:38,853
Speaker 2: this morning we thought it'd be useful to talk talk

1639
01:23:38,893 --> 01:23:41,333
Speaker 2: to you about workplace bullying because this is something that

1640
01:23:41,413 --> 01:23:44,733
Speaker 2: affects a lot of people. And there's a study from

1641
01:23:44,773 --> 01:23:48,213
Speaker 2: Massive University, a twenty twenty three study that reports that

1642
01:23:48,373 --> 01:23:52,973
Speaker 2: one in four people experience bullying at least monthly in

1643
01:23:53,053 --> 01:23:55,093
Speaker 2: the workplace. So who was most affected?

1644
01:23:56,933 --> 01:23:58,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it.

1645
01:23:58,333 --> 01:24:02,093
Speaker 19: We know that people or the most effective sort of

1646
01:24:02,133 --> 01:24:05,653
Speaker 19: groups of people in the workplace, and perhaps it's not

1647
01:24:05,773 --> 01:24:06,333
Speaker 19: hugely surprise.

1648
01:24:06,413 --> 01:24:09,973
Speaker 4: I think it's minority groups depend and that the minority

1649
01:24:10,013 --> 01:24:12,453
Speaker 4: will depend a little bit on who you're You know,

1650
01:24:12,533 --> 01:24:13,453
Speaker 4: what you're who.

1651
01:24:13,373 --> 01:24:15,133
Speaker 19: Your workplace is made up of. But if you're in

1652
01:24:15,173 --> 01:24:19,653
Speaker 19: a minority within your workplace, particularly, you're more likely to

1653
01:24:19,693 --> 01:24:24,933
Speaker 19: be subject to bullying. Women and some particular sectors to healthcare,

1654
01:24:26,373 --> 01:24:31,293
Speaker 19: it and also organizations where they have different like visible

1655
01:24:31,413 --> 01:24:33,573
Speaker 19: layers of ranks. You know, you've got a uniform and

1656
01:24:33,613 --> 01:24:36,213
Speaker 19: you've got three pips on your shoulder, and that's better

1657
01:24:36,253 --> 01:24:37,813
Speaker 19: than two pips, which is better than one.

1658
01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:41,853
Speaker 4: We know that those are environments where where bullying tends

1659
01:24:41,893 --> 01:24:42,053
Speaker 4: to be.

1660
01:24:42,093 --> 01:24:44,853
Speaker 19: A bit more common, but they're one and four people

1661
01:24:44,933 --> 01:24:47,133
Speaker 19: is a lot of people, and I think I think

1662
01:24:47,173 --> 01:24:49,813
Speaker 19: it's still some people don't kind of quite realize they

1663
01:24:49,853 --> 01:24:52,413
Speaker 19: think that bullying sort of ends in the school yard,

1664
01:24:53,413 --> 01:24:56,013
Speaker 19: but no, it certainly continues on into the workplace and

1665
01:24:56,133 --> 01:24:59,173
Speaker 19: have a major effect both on you know, people's mental

1666
01:24:59,253 --> 01:25:01,853
Speaker 19: health and just productivity at work as well. If you're

1667
01:25:01,853 --> 01:25:03,693
Speaker 19: always sort of worrying and looking over your shoulder, you

1668
01:25:03,733 --> 01:25:04,773
Speaker 19: do to work very hard.

1669
01:25:04,853 --> 01:25:10,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So let's talk about practical advice should you

1670
01:25:10,213 --> 01:25:13,053
Speaker 2: do if you see some you know, something at work

1671
01:25:13,373 --> 01:25:16,213
Speaker 2: affecting other people that you think makes you kind of uncomfortable,

1672
01:25:16,373 --> 01:25:19,213
Speaker 2: if you're kind of a you know, a bystander watching

1673
01:25:19,293 --> 01:25:21,173
Speaker 2: what you think starts workplace bullying.

1674
01:25:22,213 --> 01:25:24,613
Speaker 19: Yeah, and look, we really encourage people to be what

1675
01:25:24,733 --> 01:25:28,493
Speaker 19: we call active bystanders. Many people will know about the

1676
01:25:28,573 --> 01:25:32,813
Speaker 19: sort of the passive bystander effect where because there's a

1677
01:25:32,813 --> 01:25:35,413
Speaker 19: whole lot of people around, no individual takes any action

1678
01:25:35,533 --> 01:25:37,373
Speaker 19: because it's always you know, we kind of think, oh,

1679
01:25:37,653 --> 01:25:39,133
Speaker 19: somebody else would do it, somebody else would do it,

1680
01:25:39,293 --> 01:25:40,933
Speaker 19: or or because no one else.

1681
01:25:40,853 --> 01:25:42,133
Speaker 12: Is doing it, I won't do it either.

1682
01:25:42,293 --> 01:25:44,653
Speaker 19: But so we really encourage people to be active by

1683
01:25:44,813 --> 01:25:48,573
Speaker 19: standers where they can, and you do I acknowledge that

1684
01:25:48,613 --> 01:25:50,893
Speaker 19: you do need to take into accounts. Where you are

1685
01:25:51,013 --> 01:25:53,973
Speaker 19: in an organization, like a sure, second day on the job,

1686
01:25:54,013 --> 01:25:56,213
Speaker 19: when you're the most junior person on the floor, it

1687
01:25:56,253 --> 01:25:58,933
Speaker 19: will be pretty difficult for you to kind of go

1688
01:25:59,093 --> 01:26:00,533
Speaker 19: up and talk to the boss and say, hey, that

1689
01:26:00,653 --> 01:26:01,933
Speaker 19: sounds like bullying to me, sir.

1690
01:26:02,253 --> 01:26:02,453
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1691
01:26:03,013 --> 01:26:06,733
Speaker 19: So so God got four different things to do. Firstly,

1692
01:26:06,733 --> 01:26:09,773
Speaker 19: there's the obvious thing, and you can just intervene and say, hey, look,

1693
01:26:09,853 --> 01:26:14,653
Speaker 19: I'm really uncomfortable with this conversation and and maybe you

1694
01:26:14,853 --> 01:26:16,733
Speaker 19: can I suggest that we that you go take a

1695
01:26:16,773 --> 01:26:19,813
Speaker 19: pause and and we'll come back to it. So that's

1696
01:26:19,893 --> 01:26:22,013
Speaker 19: the obvious one, is that you just step in them

1697
01:26:22,173 --> 01:26:25,213
Speaker 19: say that you're uncomfortable. You could do if you're not

1698
01:26:25,253 --> 01:26:28,013
Speaker 19: quite comfortable doing that, you could do a kind of distract.

1699
01:26:28,093 --> 01:26:32,253
Speaker 19: And what I mean by that is is is getting

1700
01:26:32,293 --> 01:26:35,173
Speaker 19: the attention of the person that is often a person

1701
01:26:35,253 --> 01:26:38,733
Speaker 19: that's being the victim of the bullying behavior. You know,

1702
01:26:38,893 --> 01:26:41,853
Speaker 19: something like oh, hey, hey, Jack, I just I just

1703
01:26:41,933 --> 01:26:43,773
Speaker 19: need to grab you for something. Sorry to interrupt, I

1704
01:26:43,853 --> 01:26:45,373
Speaker 19: just need to grab you for something for a second.

1705
01:26:45,453 --> 01:26:48,693
Speaker 19: So you kind of distract from this and kind of

1706
01:26:48,773 --> 01:26:52,133
Speaker 19: get them out of it. Which which is you know

1707
01:26:52,253 --> 01:26:54,213
Speaker 19: that that that's cool and that that can be helpful.

1708
01:26:55,573 --> 01:26:58,373
Speaker 19: You might want to delegate, and that might be particularly

1709
01:26:58,373 --> 01:27:00,373
Speaker 19: if you're feeling, you know, that there's a bit of

1710
01:27:00,413 --> 01:27:02,933
Speaker 19: a power hierarchy at play here and you're at the bottom.

1711
01:27:02,973 --> 01:27:05,773
Speaker 19: You might want to talk to a colleague or you know,

1712
01:27:05,813 --> 01:27:09,013
Speaker 19: a senior or maybe even your manager or your leader,

1713
01:27:09,173 --> 01:27:11,533
Speaker 19: just to you know, somebody who you feel has got

1714
01:27:11,533 --> 01:27:15,893
Speaker 19: a little bit more sway in the situation. And then lastly,

1715
01:27:15,973 --> 01:27:18,693
Speaker 19: you can always delay it, like you know, if you

1716
01:27:18,813 --> 01:27:21,373
Speaker 19: if particularly you know how sometimes you kind of see

1717
01:27:21,413 --> 01:27:24,493
Speaker 19: it a behavior in the workplace and it feels uncomfortable,

1718
01:27:24,533 --> 01:27:26,533
Speaker 19: but you're not quite sure what to do, and then you're.

1719
01:27:26,773 --> 01:27:28,293
Speaker 4: Well off for the rest of the day. You go,

1720
01:27:29,813 --> 01:27:32,093
Speaker 4: I really think I should Yeah, I really think I

1721
01:27:32,133 --> 01:27:35,613
Speaker 4: should do something, so, you know, act on that urge

1722
01:27:35,613 --> 01:27:36,013
Speaker 4: and go and.

1723
01:27:36,053 --> 01:27:38,853
Speaker 19: Perhaps talk to the person that was that was being

1724
01:27:38,973 --> 01:27:41,613
Speaker 19: bellied in and just ask them about it and if

1725
01:27:41,653 --> 01:27:43,933
Speaker 19: there's anything you can do to support it. So I think,

1726
01:27:44,653 --> 01:27:48,493
Speaker 19: you know, really wanting to encourage people to be active

1727
01:27:48,973 --> 01:27:52,053
Speaker 19: and make active choices rather than just ignore it or

1728
01:27:52,173 --> 01:27:53,893
Speaker 19: make the other thing that we hear often as people

1729
01:27:53,973 --> 01:27:57,973
Speaker 19: making excuses you know, it's like, oh, you know, just

1730
01:27:58,053 --> 01:27:59,973
Speaker 19: choosing a random name, Oh, that's just Winston.

1731
01:28:00,093 --> 01:28:02,333
Speaker 4: He's away that you'll just kind of get used to it,

1732
01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:05,173
Speaker 4: you know, it's like, oh do we get just get

1733
01:28:05,293 --> 01:28:08,973
Speaker 4: used to that sort of So just chouraging people to

1734
01:28:09,053 --> 01:28:10,293
Speaker 4: sort of to act.

1735
01:28:10,413 --> 01:28:13,453
Speaker 19: You know, you you've had your pink cupcakes Friday week ago,

1736
01:28:14,253 --> 01:28:17,133
Speaker 19: and that's great for all raising awareness. But let's let's

1737
01:28:17,213 --> 01:28:18,493
Speaker 19: not let it end there.

1738
01:28:18,613 --> 01:28:21,893
Speaker 4: Let's let's make pink shirt Day the start of something

1739
01:28:21,973 --> 01:28:22,613
Speaker 4: that you can.

1740
01:28:22,533 --> 01:28:23,573
Speaker 2: Actively do at your play.

1741
01:28:23,693 --> 01:28:23,853
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1742
01:28:23,853 --> 01:28:25,573
Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense, I reckon,

1743
01:28:25,973 --> 01:28:29,853
Speaker 2: Given Kiwis aren't always the best at being confrontational, the

1744
01:28:29,973 --> 01:28:31,333
Speaker 2: distraction could be a good option.

1745
01:28:32,733 --> 01:28:35,853
Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely, I think that fits off and well with us. Right,

1746
01:28:36,053 --> 01:28:40,133
Speaker 19: so we don't we're not necessarily great about jumping in. Yeah,

1747
01:28:40,373 --> 01:28:42,333
Speaker 19: and and and and maybe you don't have to and

1748
01:28:42,413 --> 01:28:45,053
Speaker 19: that's okay. But I think being active just not letting

1749
01:28:45,093 --> 01:28:45,973
Speaker 19: it go as.

1750
01:28:47,173 --> 01:28:47,853
Speaker 2: The critical part.

1751
01:28:48,013 --> 01:28:48,173
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1752
01:28:48,293 --> 01:28:50,853
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, Doigle appreciated. It is always Google Sutherland is

1753
01:28:50,893 --> 01:28:55,013
Speaker 2: a clinical psychologist with Umbrella well Being and a couple

1754
01:28:55,013 --> 01:28:57,213
Speaker 2: of minutes on news talks. He'd be our travel correspondent.

1755
01:28:57,373 --> 01:29:00,413
Speaker 2: Is in he's looking at some of the regenerative tourism

1756
01:29:00,533 --> 01:29:04,733
Speaker 2: in Glenorchy, down in off lake Walktempa in a couple

1757
01:29:04,733 --> 01:29:07,453
Speaker 2: of minutes, a beautiful part of the county. Eighteen past

1758
01:29:07,493 --> 01:29:10,973
Speaker 2: eleven on News Dogs, he'd be travel with Windy Woo Tours.

1759
01:29:11,173 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 8: Where the World is Yours book Now.

1760
01:29:13,853 --> 01:29:17,333
Speaker 2: Travel correspondent Mike Yardley is with us this morning, focusing

1761
01:29:17,413 --> 01:29:21,373
Speaker 2: on the duel in Tauaipo Namu, the South Island that

1762
01:29:21,653 --> 01:29:22,493
Speaker 2: is Glenorchy.

1763
01:29:22,653 --> 01:29:24,493
Speaker 3: Hi, Mike, you order Jack, good morning.

1764
01:29:24,893 --> 01:29:28,613
Speaker 2: You know, Glenorchy has long been lauded for its kind

1765
01:29:28,653 --> 01:29:32,533
Speaker 2: of eco conscious brand of tourism, but is it noticeable.

1766
01:29:33,173 --> 01:29:37,533
Speaker 20: It's all encompassing, Jack, Yeah, they proudly strut the eco

1767
01:29:37,613 --> 01:29:40,893
Speaker 20: stripes and I think rightly so, because it's such a

1768
01:29:41,013 --> 01:29:45,013
Speaker 20: close knit village, as you know, and sustainability just seems

1769
01:29:45,053 --> 01:29:47,893
Speaker 20: to be steeped in the DNA. It's a really good

1770
01:29:47,973 --> 01:29:52,093
Speaker 20: fit as well, because unlike the buzz and bling of Queenstown,

1771
01:29:52,213 --> 01:29:56,293
Speaker 20: Glenorchy is like this antidote. It's all just so restorative

1772
01:29:56,413 --> 01:29:58,933
Speaker 20: and rusty and you get there and one of the

1773
01:29:59,093 --> 01:30:05,093
Speaker 20: latest community buy ins to this whole sustainability ethos is astrotourism,

1774
01:30:05,653 --> 01:30:07,813
Speaker 20: which is a very good fit, you know, in terms

1775
01:30:07,853 --> 01:30:11,373
Speaker 20: of a regenerative approach to tourism. So the Glenorky area

1776
01:30:11,493 --> 01:30:14,413
Speaker 20: has just become in the last couple of months, the

1777
01:30:14,573 --> 01:30:17,533
Speaker 20: world's twenty third International Dark Sky Century, So.

1778
01:30:18,973 --> 01:30:20,933
Speaker 3: That's also very good for the bird life. You know,

1779
01:30:21,053 --> 01:30:24,813
Speaker 3: the birds don't like too much light pollution. So it's oh,

1780
01:30:24,933 --> 01:30:25,453
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1781
01:30:25,573 --> 01:30:27,893
Speaker 2: So that does that mean we have two? Or do

1782
01:30:27,973 --> 01:30:29,293
Speaker 2: we have more than two? Because we've got tike a

1783
01:30:29,333 --> 01:30:29,933
Speaker 2: pore as well.

1784
01:30:29,853 --> 01:30:33,093
Speaker 3: Right, we do, yes, And then we've got reserve, so

1785
01:30:33,253 --> 01:30:35,373
Speaker 3: I think great barrier.

1786
01:30:35,693 --> 01:30:37,213
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, that makes sense.

1787
01:30:37,213 --> 01:30:39,733
Speaker 20: I think that's a dark sky reserve. Yes, oh yeah,

1788
01:30:39,733 --> 01:30:44,773
Speaker 20: we've got all these sort of like yeah sort of yeah,

1789
01:30:44,853 --> 01:30:46,013
Speaker 20: great places to see the star.

1790
01:30:46,213 --> 01:30:46,853
Speaker 6: Yeah, nicely.

1791
01:30:47,013 --> 01:30:48,693
Speaker 2: So why is missus woollly so popular?

1792
01:30:49,893 --> 01:30:53,173
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, right on the entrance to the village, this place,

1793
01:30:53,413 --> 01:30:57,853
Speaker 20: Missus Woolli's is like a hymn to localism and craft

1794
01:30:58,133 --> 01:30:59,173
Speaker 20: and community spirit.

1795
01:30:59,293 --> 01:31:01,453
Speaker 3: So it's an emporium of goodness.

1796
01:31:01,493 --> 01:31:04,893
Speaker 20: It's part general store, part cafe, park gift shop, and

1797
01:31:04,973 --> 01:31:09,973
Speaker 20: the selection of local wall products is absolutely superb, nearly

1798
01:31:10,173 --> 01:31:14,253
Speaker 20: as good jack as the full Monty Gelato Sundays, which

1799
01:31:14,373 --> 01:31:19,093
Speaker 20: they served them in a handmade waffled cup, very very

1800
01:31:19,973 --> 01:31:23,133
Speaker 20: much recommended, and all profits from the sales at.

1801
01:31:23,053 --> 01:31:24,493
Speaker 3: Missus Woolli's benefit.

1802
01:31:24,533 --> 01:31:28,453
Speaker 20: The local community Trust are really big into giving backwau

1803
01:31:28,773 --> 01:31:29,213
Speaker 20: oh nice.

1804
01:31:29,453 --> 01:31:31,253
Speaker 2: If you go for a jetboat down the Dark River,

1805
01:31:31,493 --> 01:31:33,493
Speaker 2: how does that compare to some of the other rivers

1806
01:31:33,493 --> 01:31:34,653
Speaker 2: in the region. What can you expect?

1807
01:31:35,773 --> 01:31:39,013
Speaker 20: Well, it's a cranking ramp to the river's upper reaches

1808
01:31:39,133 --> 01:31:41,933
Speaker 20: and you've got mounta spiring National Park and roving you

1809
01:31:42,093 --> 01:31:46,373
Speaker 20: as you go. The traverse is massive ninety kilometers, so

1810
01:31:46,533 --> 01:31:49,373
Speaker 20: you actually reach the heart of the main divide in

1811
01:31:49,493 --> 01:31:52,613
Speaker 20: the peaks don the names of Greek gods. You've got

1812
01:31:52,733 --> 01:31:56,973
Speaker 20: Pluto and Chaos and Poseidon layering down.

1813
01:31:57,373 --> 01:32:00,893
Speaker 3: But for the Knight tahou jack I found this fascinating.

1814
01:32:01,053 --> 01:32:06,813
Speaker 20: Their oral history suggests they first discovered Ponamu here hundreds

1815
01:32:06,853 --> 01:32:11,933
Speaker 20: of years ago at Quarterca, which is this mountain shaped

1816
01:32:12,173 --> 01:32:16,333
Speaker 20: like a reclining giant and a huge seam of greenstone

1817
01:32:16,733 --> 01:32:19,733
Speaker 20: tumbled from its side. So this is close to Mount Ernslaw.

1818
01:32:20,293 --> 01:32:24,853
Speaker 20: Nahu consider ERNs Law as the guardian of the precious stone.

1819
01:32:25,173 --> 01:32:29,133
Speaker 20: So yeah, all of this predates the West Coast Greenstone Trade,

1820
01:32:29,173 --> 01:32:34,293
Speaker 20: which I found absolutely illuminating, so really rich Misty history.

1821
01:32:34,573 --> 01:32:36,893
Speaker 2: See, I don't know that I knew that that. I

1822
01:32:37,173 --> 01:32:38,533
Speaker 2: think I always thought the West co is going to

1823
01:32:38,573 --> 01:32:42,653
Speaker 2: game first, right, but yeah, okay, very interesting. So Gonorky's

1824
01:32:42,693 --> 01:32:45,333
Speaker 2: kind of a top tier destination for Middle Earth fans, right.

1825
01:32:46,333 --> 01:32:47,053
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah.

1826
01:32:47,093 --> 01:32:49,293
Speaker 20: So for something easy, you can always take a forest

1827
01:32:49,373 --> 01:32:51,893
Speaker 20: walk in Paradise, always a crowd pleaser. And if you

1828
01:32:51,933 --> 01:32:54,093
Speaker 20: want to walk in the footsteps of Bilbo Beggins and

1829
01:32:54,173 --> 01:32:57,933
Speaker 20: friends as they strode out into the Misty mountains, head

1830
01:32:57,973 --> 01:33:02,253
Speaker 20: to the Ernslaw Burn Track. This is a celestial slice

1831
01:33:02,293 --> 01:33:05,253
Speaker 20: of Middle Earth. So the starring attraction on this track

1832
01:33:05,373 --> 01:33:10,613
Speaker 20: are the cascading water falls in Mount Earnslaw's spectacular hanging Glacier.

1833
01:33:11,053 --> 01:33:13,813
Speaker 20: It is a twenty seven k hike out and back,

1834
01:33:14,013 --> 01:33:18,053
Speaker 20: so it is for the intrepid. Yeah, is tough climbs

1835
01:33:18,493 --> 01:33:21,133
Speaker 20: and it's an all day affair, but you will not

1836
01:33:21,333 --> 01:33:21,773
Speaker 20: regret it.

1837
01:33:22,413 --> 01:33:25,293
Speaker 2: Time Magazine ranked Headwater's Eco Lodge is one of the

1838
01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:28,093
Speaker 2: world's greatest places, which is a pretty big call. So

1839
01:33:28,293 --> 01:33:29,293
Speaker 2: what is all of us about?

1840
01:33:29,453 --> 01:33:33,133
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I know those top one hundred lessons, they're

1841
01:33:33,173 --> 01:33:34,573
Speaker 20: a bit dimond, doesn't, aren't they?

1842
01:33:34,733 --> 01:33:37,853
Speaker 2: But but you know what, if you're coming on one

1843
01:33:37,893 --> 01:33:40,053
Speaker 2: in Time magazine, you're taking it, aren't you? That's going

1844
01:33:40,093 --> 01:33:40,613
Speaker 2: on the LinkedIn.

1845
01:33:40,773 --> 01:33:46,053
Speaker 3: Yes, you certainly don't decline it. No, that's true. Headwater

1846
01:33:46,173 --> 01:33:47,773
Speaker 3: is just gorgeous.

1847
01:33:47,853 --> 01:33:55,293
Speaker 20: So there's this handcrafted masterclass in sustainable design, extraordinary local arts.

1848
01:33:55,333 --> 01:34:00,933
Speaker 20: I've got like this serpentine floor of mosaics of braided rivers.

1849
01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:05,333
Speaker 20: I just loved that so much, upcycling, many of the

1850
01:34:05,413 --> 01:34:09,973
Speaker 20: spaces within in the lodge that've been crafted from repurposed

1851
01:34:10,093 --> 01:34:10,813
Speaker 20: wall sheds.

1852
01:34:12,013 --> 01:34:14,693
Speaker 3: It's a net positive energy.

1853
01:34:15,013 --> 01:34:18,933
Speaker 20: Accommodation provider, which is pretty cool, and it certainly does

1854
01:34:19,053 --> 01:34:23,813
Speaker 20: not skimp on comforts you are in like country duty,

1855
01:34:23,973 --> 01:34:25,813
Speaker 20: country comfort galore.

1856
01:34:26,093 --> 01:34:28,013
Speaker 2: Nice, nice. So what impress you the most.

1857
01:34:29,173 --> 01:34:30,573
Speaker 3: Well, the beauty of it.

1858
01:34:30,653 --> 01:34:34,293
Speaker 20: It's a very woodsy lodge, lots of chalet scattered about

1859
01:34:34,333 --> 01:34:37,573
Speaker 20: the grounds. And this was actually the first accommodation facility

1860
01:34:37,813 --> 01:34:42,533
Speaker 20: ever to be built to Living Building Challenge standard, which

1861
01:34:42,613 --> 01:34:47,773
Speaker 20: apparently embodies the world's most rigorous sustainability guideline.

1862
01:34:47,773 --> 01:34:48,933
Speaker 3: So it's right up there.

1863
01:34:49,653 --> 01:34:52,733
Speaker 20: But the other big impressors, whether you're staying in a

1864
01:34:52,813 --> 01:34:56,693
Speaker 20: house or not make it booking for a chef's choice dinner.

1865
01:34:57,333 --> 01:35:00,973
Speaker 20: This is all about locally harvested products. They've got a

1866
01:35:01,213 --> 01:35:05,293
Speaker 20: massive kitchen garden, the chefs will go foraging all over

1867
01:35:05,373 --> 01:35:09,773
Speaker 20: the country side around Glenorky. And best of all, this

1868
01:35:10,053 --> 01:35:14,213
Speaker 20: beacon of regenerative tourism also gives back. So like missus Wallly's,

1869
01:35:14,613 --> 01:35:17,133
Speaker 20: all profits from headwaters go back.

1870
01:35:17,013 --> 01:35:17,493
Speaker 6: To the local.

1871
01:35:17,533 --> 01:35:19,853
Speaker 2: Oh so that's great. Yeah, that's so good. And so

1872
01:35:19,893 --> 01:35:22,373
Speaker 2: when you're heading back to Queenstown heading north again, why

1873
01:35:22,453 --> 01:35:23,933
Speaker 2: should you check out Bob's Cove.

1874
01:35:25,373 --> 01:35:29,733
Speaker 20: It's such a languid lakeside cove and you definitely need

1875
01:35:29,813 --> 01:35:31,933
Speaker 20: to take a stroll in the forest by Bob's Cove

1876
01:35:32,053 --> 01:35:35,533
Speaker 20: because you'll see firsthand the rewards of all of the

1877
01:35:35,573 --> 01:35:39,933
Speaker 20: break baking, breack baking work that the local conservationists from

1878
01:35:40,013 --> 01:35:43,453
Speaker 20: Southern Lake Sanctuary have done. So they've revegetated the cove

1879
01:35:43,533 --> 01:35:47,933
Speaker 20: and natives, they've trapped thousands of predators. The BirdLife has

1880
01:35:48,013 --> 01:35:50,933
Speaker 20: bounced back big time. That's what you really notice in

1881
01:35:51,053 --> 01:35:53,133
Speaker 20: this trust. They do incredible work.

1882
01:35:53,213 --> 01:35:53,373
Speaker 6: Jack.

1883
01:35:53,533 --> 01:35:58,333
Speaker 20: Just three months ago they released Tuckahee into Reeese Valley

1884
01:35:58,493 --> 01:36:02,973
Speaker 20: just behind Glenorky. So they are doing God's work in Glenorky.

1885
01:36:03,333 --> 01:36:05,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it sounds so good. I'm actually down there

1886
01:36:05,973 --> 01:36:07,813
Speaker 2: and a couple weeks. First time I've been to Glen

1887
01:36:07,973 --> 01:36:09,933
Speaker 2: Orky and I reckon at least a decade, So yeah,

1888
01:36:10,013 --> 01:36:12,533
Speaker 2: really looking forward to it. You've got to go to

1889
01:36:12,613 --> 01:36:16,013
Speaker 2: headquarters for that dinner, Jack, Yes, yes, I would just

1890
01:36:16,093 --> 01:36:18,413
Speaker 2: have to just help going and have a quiet conversation

1891
01:36:18,493 --> 01:36:20,173
Speaker 2: with my wife and explain that there might be a

1892
01:36:20,213 --> 01:36:22,693
Speaker 2: couple of weeks through expences on the credit cards you

1893
01:36:22,733 --> 01:36:25,693
Speaker 2: might not have been expecting, but in mind. Hey, thank

1894
01:36:25,693 --> 01:36:27,293
Speaker 2: you so much. We'll put all of those trips up

1895
01:36:27,293 --> 01:36:29,893
Speaker 2: on the newstalk's 'be website of course, and catching in

1896
01:36:29,973 --> 01:36:30,293
Speaker 2: next week.

1897
01:36:30,333 --> 01:36:31,293
Speaker 6: Mike, thank you. Jack.

1898
01:36:31,693 --> 01:36:34,053
Speaker 2: That is Mike Aldi, our travel correspond and thank you

1899
01:36:34,133 --> 01:36:36,653
Speaker 2: very much for your texts. Turns out I'm not the

1900
01:36:36,693 --> 01:36:38,173
Speaker 2: only one who's got the bird feeder out at this

1901
01:36:38,253 --> 01:36:41,173
Speaker 2: time of the year. Jack, We've got a few khaka

1902
01:36:41,373 --> 01:36:44,093
Speaker 2: here in Murdy Why Jack, too much sugar and the

1903
01:36:44,133 --> 01:36:47,213
Speaker 2: syrup for the birds attracts nasty wasps. I agree, it's

1904
01:36:47,253 --> 01:36:50,333
Speaker 2: such a joy to watch the birds, especially the bell birds.

1905
01:36:50,373 --> 01:36:52,053
Speaker 2: Have a great day, says Mal and Jack. I'll see

1906
01:36:52,093 --> 01:36:54,533
Speaker 2: your fan tail and raise you or get this a

1907
01:36:54,693 --> 01:36:58,493
Speaker 2: core cuckle on my front lawn. Wow, that's great. They're

1908
01:36:58,533 --> 01:37:01,133
Speaker 2: bigger than they look on the pictures, says Ben Pim.

1909
01:37:01,173 --> 01:37:03,853
Speaker 2: That's a North Island cor cuckle. Otherwise, when we need

1910
01:37:03,893 --> 01:37:06,733
Speaker 2: to get the news talks, he'd be breaking news, sting

1911
01:37:07,053 --> 01:37:10,013
Speaker 2: up and going. Ninety two is the text number if

1912
01:37:10,013 --> 01:37:11,613
Speaker 2: you want to send me a message. It is just

1913
01:37:11,693 --> 01:37:12,773
Speaker 2: coming up to eleven thirty.

1914
01:37:16,693 --> 01:37:20,613
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on news.

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Speaker 3: Talks hed B.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty eight minutes to twelve on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be after midday. Jason Pine is in the hot

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Speaker 2: seat for Weekend Sport and it's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: special show. He's on the road this morning. While sort

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Speaker 2: of on the road, it's the sort of show that

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Speaker 2: could get a little bit raucous. There could be a

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Speaker 2: little bit of background noise because he is going to

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Speaker 2: be broadcasting from Tyler Street, Sport and Brittamata ahead of

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Speaker 2: Auckland FC's second semi final leg this afternoon. Pioneer, how

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Speaker 2: is it.

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Speaker 11: It's well at the moment, it's the calm before the storm.

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Speaker 11: I think you would say, Jackets, we're here at Tyler

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Speaker 11: Street Sport, official home of Auckland FC, and they're going

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Speaker 11: to open the doors around midday the port. The active support,

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Speaker 11: the most passionate supporters of Auckland f C are due

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Speaker 11: here from one o'clock this afternoon. Kickoff is at six tonight.

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Speaker 11: My show finishes, as I hope you know, at three.

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Speaker 11: So by the time my show finishes, I get the

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Speaker 11: feeling that the vibe, the background hubub shall we call it,

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Speaker 11: we'll start it will start to ramp up every so slightly,

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Speaker 11: which is what we want. We want to be at

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Speaker 11: a soak in a bit of the atmosphere. Beautiful day

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Speaker 11: here in Auckland. I mean, it could not be better

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Speaker 11: as far as our day to watch sport is concerned.

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Speaker 11: Down here at Tyler Street where we are, there's a

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Speaker 11: market outside, heaps of people around.

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Speaker 2: Just feels like there's a real buzz around town today. Jack, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a massive occasion. So what twenty

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Speaker 2: nine thousand I think they're expecting at go Media Stadium

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Speaker 2: And you would have to say after that performance it's

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Speaker 2: on the road. Last week, I mean you and I

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Speaker 2: said that a draw would be a victory, but that

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Speaker 2: it was a It was a one nill victory for

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Speaker 2: Auckland f C and a fairly dominant performance. So there

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Speaker 2: must be a sense of cautious optimism about tonight.

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Speaker 11: I think that's a perfect way of describing it. Yet

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Speaker 11: they'll never get ahead of themselves. They'll never start thinking

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Speaker 11: about a Grand Final before they reached that Grand final.

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Speaker 11: But you're right off the back of what they did

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Speaker 11: last week, particularly keeping Melbourne Victory scoreless. Again, that's three

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Speaker 11: games now that Melbourn Victory have tried to score a

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Speaker 11: goal against Auckland f C and haven't been able to.

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Speaker 11: Look if that if they don't concede tonight, they make

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Speaker 11: the Grand Final. Auckland f C. That's as simple as

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Speaker 11: that really. But I'd expect them to do what they've

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Speaker 11: done all year and go out and try and win

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Speaker 11: the football MANA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was the thing. Like last week we thought,

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Speaker 2: oh male, maybe they'll just go in and you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of plays somewhat conservatively, but actually it felt like

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Speaker 2: both teams were just trying to slug each other.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it was a bit like that, wasn't it ends

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Speaker 11: Everything that Auckland FC threw at Melbourne Victory and vice versa.

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Speaker 11: Most of it was repelled. Yeah, the goal the keep

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Speaker 11: us themselves actually didn't have a heck of a lot

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Speaker 11: to do in terms of actual saves to make them. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: defenders in front of them who kind of did most

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Speaker 11: of the most of the dirty work, if you like.

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Speaker 11: But Logan Rogerson's goal could be absolutely pivotal. Look, I

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Speaker 11: just can't wait for this tonight. I think, you know,

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Speaker 11: first ever finals game on home soil for Auckland FC.

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Speaker 11: We know what a season they've had. Look, can they

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Speaker 11: take one more step to the Grand Final next week?

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Speaker 11: You certainly would not bet against it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you wouldn't. It's going to be so much

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Speaker 2: fun there this afternoon. So what else is on the show?

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Speaker 11: A little bit of other things as well. I mean,

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Speaker 11: obviously football is our focus. We've got a couple of

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Speaker 11: the top brass joining us after midday, a couple of

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Speaker 11: the players to Alex Pawson's on the show, Gigiamo Maai

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Speaker 11: and a couple of others. Also some rugby of course,

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Speaker 11: the Hurricane securing their place in the Super Rugby playoffs

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Speaker 11: last night beating the Reds in Brisbane, the Crusaders just

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Speaker 11: getting home against the Highlanders will cover that off and

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Speaker 11: motorsport supercars headed for lul Poona in christ Church. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: this is terrific news. Right to have a double header

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Speaker 11: for supercars in New Zealand from twenty twenty six onwards

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Speaker 11: for at least three years. We'll we'll dip into christ

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Speaker 11: You're just well and engage the reactions to that down there.

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Speaker 11: Heaps of time for people to join the show, either

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Speaker 11: here on site at Tyler Street Sport if they can

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Speaker 11: make it down, or just on the usual way of

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Speaker 11: via phone or text.

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Speaker 2: So good Parney. I cannot wait for the game tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you there of course, but enjoy being at

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Speaker 2: Tyler Street this afternoon because I reckon the atmosphere is

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Speaker 2: going to be something to behold, especially after the port

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Speaker 2: arrived from one o'clock this afternoon. So from one broadcaster

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Speaker 2: to another, good luck with that.

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Speaker 11: Thanks, thanks Jack. I'll keep my head down.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very well, Jason, fine with us. He's going

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Speaker 2: to have Weekend Sport Live from Tyler Street Sport and

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Speaker 2: Britam Mart the home of Auckland FC, their official bar

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Speaker 2: ahead of the Auckland FC second semi final. Six pm

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Speaker 2: tonight is kickoff in that game. Jason will be with

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Speaker 2: us right after the midday news on News Talks. He'd

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Speaker 2: be before twelve o'clock. We are going to celebrate Mitch

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Speaker 2: James ahead of his last show in christ You tonight

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Speaker 2: next up your book picks for this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four to twelve, Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full

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Speaker 1: show podcast on iHeartRadio, News Talks EDB twenty two.

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Speaker 2: To twelve on News Talks 'DB. Jack, can you share

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Speaker 2: what type of bird feeder you have? Yes, I'm not

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Speaker 2: being paid to say this. I've got a picker pecker.

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Speaker 2: I've talked about it before I tooked it. I think

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Speaker 2: it last year when I got a picker picker bird feeder. Basically,

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Speaker 2: it's just a bottle and it attaches. It's got to

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Speaker 2: be kind of attachment that goes in one of those

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Speaker 2: you know those black steaks, the metal steaks that you

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Speaker 2: can get from my to ten or Bunnings, you know

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Speaker 2: those like you can get a small one for ten

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Speaker 2: bucks maybe, And so the pecker picker attaches to that.

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Speaker 2: And there's a bottle with a little dripper that works

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Speaker 2: as a feeder, and then below it it has this

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Speaker 2: kind of a little cage in which you could put

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Speaker 2: some bird seed or put some old fruit or something

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Speaker 2: like that. Anyway, there you go, ninety two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: If you want to send me a message. Now it's

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Speaker 2: time to get your book picks. For this weekend. Kathin

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Speaker 2: Rains has two great reads for us, starting off with

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Speaker 2: the first New Zealand published book to hit number one

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. And this won't come as a

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Speaker 2: great surprise, Catherine. It is Catherine Chidge's latest tell us

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Speaker 2: about the book of Guilt.

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Speaker 21: It's fantastic, is what I'm going to start out saying.

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Speaker 21: But it's saved in the nineteen seventies and it follows

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Speaker 21: these three brothers who are living in a care home

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Speaker 21: in the New Forest, and they have these desires and hopes,

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Speaker 21: and they are triplets. They're Vincent, William and Lawrence, and

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Speaker 21: they've lived in a place called Scott House, named after

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Speaker 21: the explorer, since birth. And they're part of this project

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Speaker 21: called the Sycamore Project, which is this government funded scheme

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Speaker 21: to monitor particular children.

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Speaker 6: And the boys are.

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Speaker 21: Cared by three mothers named Morning, Afternoon and Night Mother,

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Speaker 21: and their actions are monitored and their dreams are recorded

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Speaker 21: in a book, and mister Miners are noted in the

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Speaker 21: Book of Guilt, and other children live in different sycamore homes,

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Speaker 21: and not all as it seems, and the residents believe

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Speaker 21: that when they reach a certain stage, they are sent

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Speaker 21: to this wonderful world of Margate to live life in

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Speaker 21: the big house. And the boys rarely leave this house,

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Speaker 21: but they have the odd visit to the village and

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Speaker 21: they meet this mister Webb, the local baker, and he

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Speaker 21: slips up and he says something that he shouldn't have,

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Speaker 21: and slowly the boys start to see the cracks in

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Speaker 21: their everyday lives and the facade that there's life, and

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Speaker 21: there's these links to some very dark historical events and

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Speaker 21: a sanity and obsession of experts and governments to create

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Speaker 21: these better societies. And the Book of gil is quite

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Speaker 21: shocking in this and it has this very almost creepy,

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Speaker 21: unsettling feeling as the story unfolds, and it is brilliantly written,

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Speaker 21: and it weaves you into this spellbinding tale and expiration

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Speaker 21: of this really interesting world where lives, some lives are

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Speaker 21: less valiant than others. And couldn't recommend it highly more highly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds so good Cathinigy is incredible. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: not surprised to hear that this is amazing. But the

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Speaker 2: Book of Guilt is out now and number one, the

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Speaker 2: first New Zealan published book at number one this year,

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Speaker 2: which is a real achievement. Next up, Nightshade by Michael Conley.

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Speaker 21: So in this you meet a new protagonist La County Sheriff,

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Speaker 21: a guy called Detective Stillwell, and he was normally a

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Speaker 21: homicide detective on the mainland and then he's been sent

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Speaker 21: to this very rustic Catalina Island, and so you get

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Speaker 21: this backdrop of this island and following Detective Stillwell who's

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Speaker 21: been exiled effectively to this Catalina Island after pursuing a

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Speaker 21: close case that involved police corruption. But however, when he's

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Speaker 21: there on Catalina and these routine duties, he discovers this

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Speaker 21: woman's body in the harbor and it starts to draw

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Speaker 21: him into this very complex investigation and he's facing a

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Speaker 21: lot of criticism for his past mistakes, and his captain

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Speaker 21: actually ends up assigning this case to his enemy and

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Speaker 21: he's instead sort of pushed off to poaching and stolen

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Speaker 21: statue cases, and he's determined to get back involved in

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Speaker 21: this case and find a lead, and he ends up

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Speaker 21: pursuing it and ends up in some very unpredictable situations.

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Speaker 21: So you get this very dangerous storeline and this opportunity,

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Speaker 21: you know, to meet this new protagonist from Michael Connolly,

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Speaker 21: and he's a really complicated hero and he's this dogged

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Speaker 21: determination and moral center. And I think that fans of

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Speaker 21: Harry Bosh, who's Connolly's main character, will really enjoy this.

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Speaker 21: And he's planted some really good sort of hooks for

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Speaker 21: an ongoing series, and if he carries on with us,

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Speaker 21: I think it'll be very very good.

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Speaker 2: Nice, Okay, cool. So that's Nightshade by Michael Connelly, Catherine's

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Speaker 2: first book, the Book of Guilt by Catherine Chigi, and

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Speaker 2: both of those books will be on our website. Don't

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Speaker 2: forget anything that you hear on the radio will also

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Speaker 2: be online. So news talksb dot co dot m Z

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Speaker 2: ed Ford slash Jack is the easy way to go

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Speaker 2: to the homepage for our show and you'll find all

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Speaker 2: of our recommendations up there. Seventeen to twelve music by

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Speaker 2: Mitch James for you next.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

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Speaker 1: Know Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bfewer dot co

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Speaker 16: Be the very first moment locked in your you saw

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Speaker 16: me about love as you stand in the main you hold.

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Speaker 8: In the hands of the new little life that showman.

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Speaker 16: You bought me back calling I started to pray you held.

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Speaker 6: Me in class is so sweet.

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Speaker 9: Line of buddies when I started running, I know I

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Speaker 9: was running here.

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Speaker 8: Start up the stormy of everything.

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Speaker 3: I'll have be.

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Speaker 8: My mama and me.

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Speaker 2: Time passing by. That is Mitch James, Mama and me.

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Speaker 2: And it's a bit of a sort of sad day

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Speaker 2: for Mitch James fans. A celebration. I suppose he's performing

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Speaker 2: his last show tonight. It's gonna be in Christchitch's town Hall,

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Speaker 2: and you know it sort of brings to an end

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01:48:03,693 --> 01:48:07,493
Speaker 2: a pretty extraordinary decade or so slightly more. I suppose

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Speaker 2: performing around the world, hundreds of millions of streams. Mitch

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01:48:12,453 --> 01:48:17,053
Speaker 2: James has achieved so much, but he's not happy with

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01:48:17,173 --> 01:48:20,413
Speaker 2: things at the moment. So Stelle Clifford Music Reviewers with

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Speaker 2: us this morning. Stelle, We're going to have a bit

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Speaker 2: of a listen to Mitch's album. This is not what

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01:48:24,733 --> 01:48:28,333
Speaker 2: I had in mind named this is not what I

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01:48:28,413 --> 01:48:30,693
Speaker 2: had in mind. In a couple of minutes, but yeah,

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01:48:30,773 --> 01:48:33,053
Speaker 2: talk to us about why this is not what Mitch

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Speaker 2: had in mind.

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Speaker 22: I think this is the perfect example of you, like,

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01:48:37,773 --> 01:48:41,013
Speaker 22: do that hard graft at the start. Yeah, you decide

2140
01:48:41,053 --> 01:48:43,973
Speaker 22: to go overseas, you do some couch surfing with your guitar,

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01:48:44,533 --> 01:48:47,173
Speaker 22: your plavery gig known to man, and then suddenly you

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01:48:47,253 --> 01:48:51,453
Speaker 22: get this contract and the whoolwind begins. You're releasing songs

2143
01:48:51,653 --> 01:48:55,253
Speaker 22: number one, you're nominated for Song of the Year, you

2144
01:48:55,533 --> 01:49:00,253
Speaker 22: are winning MTV europe Music Awards, and it's just you're

2145
01:49:00,333 --> 01:49:02,293
Speaker 22: right in that rock and roll lifestyle, right, and it's

2146
01:49:02,373 --> 01:49:05,933
Speaker 22: all full on. But then there's the business behind that.

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01:49:06,413 --> 01:49:09,333
Speaker 22: And when you've signed up to a big label, they've

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01:49:09,373 --> 01:49:13,893
Speaker 22: got expectations, they've got processes, and you become part of that.

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01:49:14,013 --> 01:49:17,053
Speaker 2: You become a business, you become part of the machine

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01:49:17,773 --> 01:49:18,013
Speaker 2: you do.

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01:49:18,253 --> 01:49:22,053
Speaker 22: And business and creative is always this real fine line

2152
01:49:22,133 --> 01:49:26,733
Speaker 22: of how that works, right. I think that sometimes it

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01:49:26,813 --> 01:49:32,613
Speaker 22: really quashes squashes a person's creativity processes. I think that

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01:49:32,773 --> 01:49:34,973
Speaker 22: often you're signed as an artist because that's what you've

2155
01:49:35,013 --> 01:49:37,253
Speaker 22: got and that's what they love. But you know, there's

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01:49:37,253 --> 01:49:39,773
Speaker 22: an evolution of a person, there's an evolution of an artist,

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01:49:39,813 --> 01:49:44,253
Speaker 22: and I think sometimes those contracts feel like they're keeping

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01:49:44,293 --> 01:49:46,413
Speaker 22: them inside a square inside of box, and I think

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01:49:46,453 --> 01:49:48,533
Speaker 22: you just wanted to branch out from that. Also, shoot,

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01:49:48,573 --> 01:49:51,813
Speaker 22: its hard graft to make money and music and there's

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Speaker 22: pay in life to live.

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01:49:53,973 --> 01:49:56,093
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. So I mean, he has had

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01:49:56,173 --> 01:49:59,853
Speaker 2: more than three hundred million streams online and people who

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01:49:59,853 --> 01:50:01,773
Speaker 2: think if you're getting three hundred million streams you should

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01:50:01,813 --> 01:50:06,653
Speaker 2: be sorted, you should be said, that's not I mean

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01:50:07,213 --> 01:50:10,093
Speaker 2: even less, even less. Yeah, they're right, yeah.

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01:50:10,013 --> 01:50:12,613
Speaker 22: Because the companies take the money. And again that's just

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01:50:12,733 --> 01:50:16,133
Speaker 22: so hard on the creative industries. That needs to change.

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01:50:16,213 --> 01:50:19,413
Speaker 22: Something needs to happen there, because someone's definitely filling their pockets,

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01:50:19,453 --> 01:50:21,773
Speaker 22: but it's often not the artists. The artist is way

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01:50:21,973 --> 01:50:24,053
Speaker 22: down the chain of people who get paid. And I

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01:50:24,173 --> 01:50:26,933
Speaker 22: mean even for an independent artist, because Mitch has you know,

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01:50:27,013 --> 01:50:29,453
Speaker 22: through his career ended up going independent and then he's

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01:50:29,533 --> 01:50:34,173
Speaker 22: jumped on board with six sixties label for this final album.

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01:50:35,413 --> 01:50:37,213
Speaker 22: But there's you know, it's still it is hard and

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01:50:37,493 --> 01:50:39,493
Speaker 22: all you have to be touring constantly to be on

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01:50:39,613 --> 01:50:42,013
Speaker 22: the road like twenty four to seven and how do

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01:50:42,093 --> 01:50:42,973
Speaker 22: you live a life around that?

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01:50:43,053 --> 01:50:43,173
Speaker 6: Too?

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01:50:43,253 --> 01:50:46,453
Speaker 22: And I think he's just, you know, like he's checked himself.

2181
01:50:46,493 --> 01:50:48,613
Speaker 22: And I think it's hard to park the ego sometimes

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01:50:49,133 --> 01:50:51,453
Speaker 22: of loving that, you know, and you love that thrill

2183
01:50:51,533 --> 01:50:54,053
Speaker 22: of people in a live setting and love new music

2184
01:50:54,093 --> 01:50:56,413
Speaker 22: and the response you yet, but to park that ego

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01:50:56,493 --> 01:50:58,493
Speaker 22: and go it's okay for me to do something else.

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01:50:59,013 --> 01:51:01,653
Speaker 22: I can still love this and be this, but I'm

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01:51:01,653 --> 01:51:03,373
Speaker 22: actually also going to do something else that makes me

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01:51:03,413 --> 01:51:04,413
Speaker 22: feel passionate and happy.

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01:51:04,533 --> 01:51:09,333
Speaker 2: I respect that, so, yeah, because it's really hard things

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01:51:09,373 --> 01:51:09,533
Speaker 2: to do.

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01:51:09,853 --> 01:51:12,253
Speaker 22: Yeah, And I think that he needs to remember just

2192
01:51:12,293 --> 01:51:14,493
Speaker 22: because he's not doing it right now or he's not

2193
01:51:14,533 --> 01:51:16,253
Speaker 22: going to continue doing it for a while, it'll always

2194
01:51:16,293 --> 01:51:18,013
Speaker 22: it's always him. It's always going to be a part

2195
01:51:18,053 --> 01:51:21,213
Speaker 22: of him, and it maybe will come and go in

2196
01:51:21,293 --> 01:51:24,453
Speaker 22: different ways. Althose skills will become so useful for something

2197
01:51:24,453 --> 01:51:27,093
Speaker 22: else in his life. And that's exciting to me, you know,

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01:51:27,213 --> 01:51:29,533
Speaker 22: Like I think I hope that he's excited too. I

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01:51:29,613 --> 01:51:31,973
Speaker 22: imagine tonight's show is going to be a little bit

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01:51:32,013 --> 01:51:34,133
Speaker 22: like that Mumma and Me song where it's like so

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01:51:34,413 --> 01:51:37,493
Speaker 22: tender and beautiful and vulnerable and it makes you want

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01:51:37,533 --> 01:51:39,413
Speaker 22: to cry, but you also kind of want to laugh

2203
01:51:39,493 --> 01:51:42,573
Speaker 22: through life's journey. And I saw a couple of days

2204
01:51:42,613 --> 01:51:46,533
Speaker 22: ago they released about fifty more standing tickets for the

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01:51:46,613 --> 01:51:49,773
Speaker 22: town Hall in christ Church. I dare say they're gone.

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01:51:50,733 --> 01:51:53,253
Speaker 22: It's going to be packed out to the to the broom.

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01:51:53,373 --> 01:51:56,013
Speaker 22: And you know this this album is such a You

2208
01:51:56,293 --> 01:51:58,293
Speaker 22: listen to it and you're like, why would you leave now?

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01:51:58,933 --> 01:52:01,453
Speaker 22: But isn't it also great to leave on such a high?

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01:52:01,613 --> 01:52:04,173
Speaker 22: And this is definitely some songs he's put together that

2211
01:52:04,293 --> 01:52:08,733
Speaker 22: he loves that it's his artistory where it's all those tender,

2212
01:52:09,373 --> 01:52:13,373
Speaker 22: vulnerable storytelling lyrics that he's renowned for that very relatable

2213
01:52:13,413 --> 01:52:16,893
Speaker 22: because they're just life stories. I hope there's no showies

2214
01:52:16,933 --> 01:52:20,293
Speaker 22: on stage tonight, Mitch James, but look that was that

2215
01:52:20,413 --> 01:52:22,653
Speaker 22: was a phase also in some of your live shows.

2216
01:52:22,693 --> 01:52:28,733
Speaker 22: But there'll be those moments too, right, And I think, yeah,

2217
01:52:28,773 --> 01:52:32,413
Speaker 22: he's got some really cool songs, but this album just

2218
01:52:32,813 --> 01:52:35,053
Speaker 22: captures all of those things that he's been as an artist.

2219
01:52:35,133 --> 01:52:38,093
Speaker 22: It's really clever actually to have these eight final songs.

2220
01:52:39,773 --> 01:52:41,893
Speaker 22: There are all of it. There's also a party song

2221
01:52:41,933 --> 01:52:43,093
Speaker 22: which I know You're going to play a bit of

2222
01:52:43,493 --> 01:52:46,813
Speaker 22: real soon called the Lads, and it summarizes what I mentioned.

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01:52:46,853 --> 01:52:47,573
Speaker 18: Tonight is going to be.

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01:52:47,933 --> 01:52:50,213
Speaker 22: We're here for a short time, that a long time,

2225
01:52:50,653 --> 01:52:53,253
Speaker 22: here for some fun, you know, pour.

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01:52:53,173 --> 01:52:55,013
Speaker 2: Some drinks, some mischief, hands of the.

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01:52:56,773 --> 01:52:57,293
Speaker 9: Cheeky too.

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01:52:57,373 --> 01:52:59,733
Speaker 22: And I like that he manages to get that personality

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01:52:59,813 --> 01:53:03,093
Speaker 22: out and his music. I've really enjoyed listening to this album.

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01:53:03,213 --> 01:53:06,333
Speaker 22: It's fun, it's a real It almost doesn't feel like

2231
01:53:06,453 --> 01:53:08,933
Speaker 22: a full stop, but I totally get that. It's a

2232
01:53:08,973 --> 01:53:12,733
Speaker 22: great place to also go. Check out this Last Firing album.

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01:53:13,213 --> 01:53:15,453
Speaker 22: If you haven't seen the music video for Mama and

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01:53:15,533 --> 01:53:18,613
Speaker 22: Me that you displayed, he did this real setup where

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01:53:18,653 --> 01:53:21,213
Speaker 22: he was taking his mum into this hall to say,

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01:53:21,333 --> 01:53:22,773
Speaker 22: I'm going to show you the music video for the

2237
01:53:22,813 --> 01:53:26,893
Speaker 22: first time. It was actually the Danida and Symphony Orchestra

2238
01:53:27,013 --> 01:53:29,333
Speaker 22: and him. They sat her down and they made the

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01:53:29,413 --> 01:53:32,973
Speaker 22: music video right there and he's saying it to her.

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Speaker 22: I cannot watch that video without tearing up.

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01:53:35,773 --> 01:53:36,253
Speaker 5: It is so.

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01:53:38,013 --> 01:53:40,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I love that too.

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01:53:40,493 --> 01:53:42,853
Speaker 22: Here's a guy showing all his feelings and there will

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01:53:42,893 --> 01:53:45,133
Speaker 22: be all of those tonight. That that gig if you're

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01:53:45,173 --> 01:53:46,773
Speaker 22: lucky enough to go along to it, but you'll feel

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01:53:46,813 --> 01:53:48,653
Speaker 22: it in this album too, So if you're not at

2247
01:53:48,653 --> 01:53:49,533
Speaker 22: the gig, it doesn't matter.

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01:53:49,933 --> 01:53:50,893
Speaker 9: Listen to this album.

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01:53:51,973 --> 01:53:55,893
Speaker 22: Lyrics are beautiful, fully committed, His vocals are really great,

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01:53:55,973 --> 01:53:58,853
Speaker 22: heat to catchy riffs. You know he's gonna have songs

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01:53:58,893 --> 01:54:00,533
Speaker 22: now that are going to go on the charts. Yeah,

2252
01:54:01,333 --> 01:54:02,933
Speaker 22: and you'll go off and do something else. And I

2253
01:54:03,373 --> 01:54:04,653
Speaker 22: think that's really it's kind of funny.

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01:54:04,853 --> 01:54:05,533
Speaker 3: So what did you give it?

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01:54:05,853 --> 01:54:06,293
Speaker 11: What did you give it?

2256
01:54:06,573 --> 01:54:08,733
Speaker 2: This is not what I had in mind by Mitch Jane.

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01:54:09,333 --> 01:54:12,293
Speaker 22: Let's just see the Belton Yeah, go on, go on.

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01:54:13,133 --> 01:54:17,093
Speaker 2: You can hardly say a seven, right yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, ten?

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01:54:17,213 --> 01:54:19,133
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no, very good.

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01:54:19,253 --> 01:54:19,573
Speaker 6: That's good.

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01:54:19,613 --> 01:54:21,613
Speaker 2: All right, Well, have a bit more of a listen

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01:54:21,613 --> 01:54:23,773
Speaker 2: to a couple of minutes forget that the lads song

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01:54:23,853 --> 01:54:27,133
Speaker 2: that you recommend. Thank you so much of stell Steale

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01:54:27,173 --> 01:54:29,853
Speaker 2: Cliff is our music reviewer ten out of ten. But

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01:54:29,933 --> 01:54:31,613
Speaker 2: this is not what I had in mind. And if

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01:54:31,613 --> 01:54:33,373
Speaker 2: you're lucky enough to be going along to the christ

2267
01:54:33,453 --> 01:54:36,173
Speaker 2: Church Town Hall this evening to see Mitch perform his

2268
01:54:36,373 --> 01:54:39,573
Speaker 2: last show, make sure you have an awesome time. Seven

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01:54:39,613 --> 01:54:40,533
Speaker 2: to twelve on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: The song is called the Lads.

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01:55:32,493 --> 01:55:32,933
Speaker 9: You want to.

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01:55:41,653 --> 01:56:09,173
Speaker 2: That's a good A good time, not a long time

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01:56:09,893 --> 01:56:15,453
Speaker 2: seventeen I was messing Sunrise hold time. Do you want

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01:56:15,493 --> 01:56:19,813
Speaker 2: to feel a lot to be? Not a long time?

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01:56:20,573 --> 01:56:22,533
Speaker 2: Comes a classes your co signed.

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01:56:24,253 --> 01:56:25,213
Speaker 8: That's a good time?

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01:56:25,573 --> 01:56:27,613
Speaker 2: Do you want to feel a lot jots?

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01:56:28,013 --> 01:56:28,493
Speaker 13: Long time?

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