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Speaker 2: Hello, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Afternoons podcast number one one three. It's the full show

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Speaker 2: for Tuesday, the twenty ninth of April. Boy Boy, it

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Speaker 2: was an emotional show today. We were talking about funerals

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Speaker 2: and we got a call from Tom that, look, you

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Speaker 2: What a freaking great New Zealander Thomas, absolute legend of

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Speaker 2: a man, very very very very brave human being. Also,

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Speaker 2: we went into run It, Yeah, run it, boy boys.

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Speaker 2: Some people, some people really really didn't like my opinions

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Speaker 2: on this new sport that you'll hear about run It.

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Speaker 2: People think I'm a drongo for supporting it.

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Speaker 3: They came at you heart actually they run it straight.

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Speaker 2: Up the guts at me absolutely. And we finished with

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Speaker 2: comfort TV shows. So it's a really really good show.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News

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Speaker 3: Well, good afternoon to you, welcome and to Tuesday show

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Speaker 3: seven past one. Hope you're doing well today. Get a Matt,

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Speaker 3: get a.

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Speaker 2: Tyler, get everyone. Thanks for tuning in your great New Zealanders.

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Speaker 2: There's getting colder across the country. And look, I don't

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Speaker 2: have a fire in my house, but I have the

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Speaker 2: next best thing. Yeah, I just put YouTube fire videos

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Speaker 2: on all the televisions in my house and you can

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Speaker 2: almost feel the temperature. I follow this Russian guy who

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Speaker 2: just films live streams a beautiful fire in his cabin.

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Speaker 3: Right, So this is a non repeat. This is just

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Speaker 3: a live stream that Russian guys.

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Speaker 2: It's a live stream crackling away on YouTube and your rooms.

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Speaker 2: Swear to god, you're probably listening and saying this sounds

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Speaker 2: like an outrageous thing to do, but it makes your

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Speaker 2: house so cozy if you don't have an actual fire,

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Speaker 2: but you'll end up feeling warmer just because of the fire.

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Speaker 2: And look, evolutionarily, apparently we feel a lot of comfort

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Speaker 2: when we see crackling fires because you know, our incestors

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Speaker 2: sitting out of the savannah knew they were safe when

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Speaker 2: there was a fire crackling. That's a lot of the

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Speaker 2: reason why people think we enjoy TV. It's not just

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Speaker 2: the entertainment, it's steering into some fluttering lights that hits

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Speaker 2: off a primal need, like the need to look into

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Speaker 2: a fire to know that we're safe. So you fire

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Speaker 2: them up on the YouTube channel. Boy boy, it's cozy.

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Speaker 3: So with a glass of peen on, maybe some marshmallows

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Speaker 3: that you can't toast, and just steer at this live

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Speaker 3: stream of the fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it's good times.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ef, you do it and you'll end up like taking

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Speaker 2: layers off because you get warmer and warmer from doing it.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, try that when I.

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Speaker 2: Get Yes, it sounds ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I do love a fire. Yeah, and you've been right before,

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Speaker 3: so I'll try it when I get.

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Speaker 2: Fire up a YouTube fire channel. It's so cozy.

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Speaker 3: There's your tip for today in New Zealand. Right to

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Speaker 3: the show after three o'clock. Earworms. Why catchy songs get

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Speaker 3: stuck in your head? This is going to be a

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Speaker 3: fun chat. We've all had them, but new science has

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Speaker 3: revealed the best way to get them out of your head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently you should get them out of your

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Speaker 2: might think it's fine just having a punishingly catchy song

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Speaker 2: on rotating your brain, but that's actually stopping you from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is after three o'clock, after two o'clock. What

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Speaker 3: to look out for when saying goodbye to a loved one?

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Speaker 3: Story in the paper today about a bunch of families

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Speaker 3: But taking a bit wider than that, saying goodbye to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what are the things you need to look

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Speaker 3: just before we get to this topic, there's a few

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Speaker 2: That's so funny, man. I had it dine a party

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Speaker 2: says this person. Marsis. Come on, I'm smelling bs. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: absolutely before try it, Tyler, before, before you rubbish it,

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Speaker 2: try it before I knock it. Seriously, our brains are

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Speaker 3: I will report back tomorrow. But speaking of don't knock

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Speaker 3: it till you try it. A new sport is coming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, coming to New Zealand on May twenty fifth.

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Speaker 2: There's an article on the Herald today that refers to

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Speaker 2: they do have of safety features in place in terms

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Speaker 4: Boys and girls, welcome to run it. This is where

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Speaker 2: The strong from the stronger.

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Speaker 4: We're looking for the hardest or runners and defenders in

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Speaker 4: The rules of the game are simple, with a run

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Speaker 8: You run it straight.

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Speaker 4: So how do you win? You win by dominating contact

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Speaker 4: four rounds to impress the judges, headheart, dandel ground and

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Speaker 4: Twenty thousand cash. This is a sport bill for warriors.

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Speaker 4: You've got the mental game, the technique, the strength to

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Speaker 3: There you go, run it so jdy.

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Speaker 2: So who's seem to have won the tackle? So do

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Speaker 2: Do you support this kind of sport coming to New

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Speaker 2: May is going to be a run at arena set

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Speaker 3: If you think it's going to be highly entertaining, you

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Speaker 2: You think it's it looks on. Yeah, I don't understand

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Speaker 2: the shoulders. So what's so different then a game of league?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many times do you run it straight

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Speaker 2: in the game of league can get tackled? Right, This

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Speaker 2: is just simplifying the sport. I can see it being excited,

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Speaker 2: that first run up is so exciting. Yeah, that first

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Speaker 2: the game. You can't stop that happening. Kids are going

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Speaker 3: And just to reiterate that point, so in the story

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Speaker 3: that video. They said the incident captured in the video

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Speaker 3: it quite distress in the video we felt was horrendous

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Speaker 3: and backyard events such as that one was very disappointing

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Speaker 3: to see. It said run It was a professionally arranged

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Speaker 3: combat sport in which athletes selected based on trial days

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Speaker 3: and merit of prior rugby league and union backgrounds went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's wrong with that? What do you think about this?

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Speaker 2: And what do you think about combat sports in general?

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Speaker 2: Because I tell you what, right now, if boxing was

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Speaker 2: arriving as a new sport, people would be shutting that

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Speaker 2: down pretty quickly because guess what, there's a new sport

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Speaker 2: where people punch each other in the face exactly. People

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be far in twenty five people to shut it down.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people texting through ball rush, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the similarities for bull rush, except for in this sport

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Speaker 2: you don't try and get round the person. You just

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Speaker 2: run it straight, run straight at them and see who

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Speaker 2: gets dominance on the impact line. Is this the dumbest

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Speaker 2: sport you've ever heard of?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty, What do you

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Speaker 2: feel about combat sports in general? And what do you

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Speaker 2: think this will have on the effect of the youth

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Speaker 2: of our country.

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Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoon to you. Eighteen past one,

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Speaker 3: and we're talking about a new sport that is set

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Speaker 3: It's called run It, which is effectively two players athletes

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Speaker 2: The problem with the sport is the youngsters now see that,

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Speaker 3: Someone mentioned bull rush there and everybody freaked out about

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Speaker 2: School, this robs has run it, like to see what

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Speaker 2: There's a new sport. You don't know anything about it.

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Speaker 2: You go, it's like telling the teacher. They immediately go,

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Speaker 2: wonder what the teacher's going to say about this run it?

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: And that's a big point of it right where that

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Speaker 3: Surely more sport coming to the table is better.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this text from Sylvia. Wow, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: How stupid are men? How dumb running at people? We

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Speaker 3: How is this any different though? Too? And I'm a

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 3: There's pretty much every sport and activity you do that

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the question. If you've got a problem

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Speaker 2: Have you got a problem with rugby league? Have you skateboarding?

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Speaker 2: I'm a god, I'm a sixty five year old female

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Speaker 2: and I was the bull washen bull rush queen at

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Speaker 3: e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to care.

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Speaker 2: Well, look at this. So many people are actually against

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Speaker 2: It's not an accent. It should never be covered by

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty four past one. Beat very shortly with some

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Speaker 2: Oh here Dave says he's been running it straight since

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: What a difference to government makes?

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Speaker 7: Say?

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Speaker 2: Under labor literally nobody got tossed out of a caying

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Speaker 2: Under the current government, we're up to two hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety nine tenancies terminated litigation lawyer Dean the thorns with

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Speaker 9: It's a significant improvement. I had a lot of people

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Speaker 9: I thought the figure that needed to be a victive

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Speaker 10: Let's be clear.

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Speaker 6: It's a good political word.

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Speaker 9: I'm talking about people doing really agregous violence, stuff that's

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Speaker 9: threatening to their nabors. And I spoke to a love

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Speaker 6: We're talking the worst.

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Speaker 3: News talks between t seven past one, and we're talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt and Tyler, I am what is considered a

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Speaker 2: and it's so sad. Better kids learn about this when

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there you go, Bob. You're not a fan of

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Speaker 13: I'm not. If you go back and have a look

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Speaker 2: Would you be would you be in for banning NFL

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Speaker 13: Matthe you're sitting there advocating the stuff that is going

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Speaker 13: Look at that guy? What happened to him? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 13: you got a severe head injury. That's a clause in there.

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Speaker 13: When they sign up to do this, they're going to

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Speaker 2: They've got medical screenings. Mindatary mouth guards. You can't tackle

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Speaker 6: Bob.

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Speaker 2: Do you enjoy rugby or rugby league?

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 13: But what I'm also noticing is that rugby are losing

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Speaker 2: What attracks you to rugby? Bob? Do you think you'd

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Speaker 13: Well, they're doing that now, aren't they. They're doing it

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Speaker 13: and this goes on all the time. You want to

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Speaker 13: not combat. It's not combat. We're going to enough combat

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about our boxing, Bob? Do you enjoy boxing?

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Speaker 13: Yes, I am. I used to box.

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Speaker 2: Right, surely that is very I mean, that's an interesting sport.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a fan, but you are actually trying

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Speaker 2: to knock people out and.

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Speaker 13: Boxing Well, no, not necessarily, you can now box them

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Speaker 13: without locking them.

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Speaker 2: Out, but but you, I mean, it's a bitter result

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Speaker 13: Well, in your mind, just what you think. I don't.

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Speaker 2: to leave it up to the judges.

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Speaker 13: Well, if you make the effort and score the points,

438
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Speaker 13: the judges are going to award you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it can get pretty dodgy and boxing.

440
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Speaker 2: But thanks for your call, Bob. I mean, I mean,

441
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Speaker 2: that's that's an interesting thing. I often think what happens

442
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Speaker 2: is that a new sport comes along and we hold

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Speaker 2: it up to a sort of higher degree of scrutiny

444
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Speaker 2: than an old sport, when really all this sport has

445
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Speaker 2: run it is the tackle part of a game of

446
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Speaker 2: rugby or rugby league exactly.

447
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Speaker 3: And look, you know, I get Bob's point that he

448
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Speaker 3: was trying to make that there are changes to the

449
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Speaker 3: game of rugby and to a lesser extent, rugby league

450
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Speaker 3: to try and make it safer. But you can only

451
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Speaker 3: make it so safe if it's a context sport, and

452
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Speaker 3: in fact for non contact sports as well, as you

453
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Speaker 3: mentioned before football, basketball, you get the ball in the

454
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Speaker 3: head from time to time.

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Speaker 12: Allway.

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Speaker 2: B Argie, bargie. I've got my nose broken playing basketball exactly.

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Speaker 3: So people are getting head knocks. So you can only

458
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Speaker 3: make it to be fair. Yeah, I'm not surprised by

459
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Speaker 3: the hes, but you can only make it so safe.

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Speaker 3: So actually, how did that who broke your nose?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

462
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Speaker 2: I know, I was under a terrible layup attempt and

463
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Speaker 2: the ball just came straight back down on my face.

464
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Speaker 2: I took it to the paint. There was no one

465
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Speaker 2: even there. Anyway, it doesn't matter story anyway, mister Dickle,

466
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Speaker 2: my coach will really late into me. I bet you

467
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Speaker 2: for that. So coming up after the news headlines, I

468
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Speaker 2: want to play some audio which I think plays into

469
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Speaker 2: my point that the way people act around new things.

470
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Speaker 2: And I've got some audio from TV in said breakfast

471
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Speaker 2: the other day, and it was around what people were

472
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Speaker 2: thinking about jogging, because jogging wasn't a thing till about

473
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Speaker 2: fifty years ago. When it came out, people were terrified

474
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Speaker 2: about it. And we'll play some audio from.

475
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Speaker 3: That it's going to be godd airs twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 8: News Talk said the headlines with blue.

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Speaker 15: Bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble. The

478
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Speaker 15: government books are expected to reach surplus by twenty twenty nine,

479
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Speaker 15: helped by massive slashing of new operating spending a next

480
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Speaker 15: month's budget to one point three billion dollars. It's almost

481
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Speaker 15: half the fore cast amount. Ministers and agencies have been

482
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Speaker 15: asked to save more. A helicopter has been dispatched to

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Speaker 15: way Haaha, west of Topour after a two vehicle crash

484
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Speaker 15: about midday, with serious injuries likely. State Highway thirty two

485
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Speaker 15: is blocked with diversions at Fungamatah Road. Queenstown Police are

486
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Speaker 15: asking for any information after a thirty three year old

487
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Speaker 15: overseas national was found with critical head injuries on Turner Street.

488
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Speaker 15: Early today, millions of Canadians are flocking to the polls

489
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Speaker 15: in a snap election for the next government, with politicians

490
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Speaker 15: promising to stand up to Donald Trump's threats of encroachment.

491
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Speaker 15: The Transport Minister is heading to Sydney to promote local investment,

492
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Speaker 15: attending events including the twenty twenty five National Infrastructure Awards,

493
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Speaker 15: making up for lost years for midlifers on sex after divorce.

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Speaker 15: Read the story at Ansaid Herald Premium. Back to Matteathan

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Speaker 15: Tyler Adams, thank.

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Speaker 3: You very much, Ray Lean, and we're talking about this

497
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Speaker 3: new sport that is coming to New Zealand at about

498
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Speaker 3: a month's time. It's called run it, where two competitors

499
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Speaker 3: run at each other as hard as they can and

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Speaker 3: a tackle situation. It's going to be run by the

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Speaker 3: Run It Championship Lead think. The first competition I believe

502
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Speaker 3: is tomorrow in Melbourne. The grand prize is twenty thousand

503
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Speaker 3: dollars and it will be most of the competitors will

504
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Speaker 3: be former league and rugby players taking part.

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Speaker 2: People are getting really stressed out. People are going to

506
00:24:23,253 --> 00:24:26,173
Speaker 2: injure themselves from hand ringing before they injure themselves from

507
00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:29,213
Speaker 2: playing Run It so a very simple game. You run

508
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Speaker 2: it in the ten meter battle zone.

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Speaker 6: Run it.

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Speaker 2: If you've got the ball. Basically this is how it goes.

511
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Speaker 2: So if you're running, your job is simple. You run

512
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Speaker 2: it straight. So how do you win by dominating contact?

513
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Speaker 2: Is it's basically a tackle. It's basically running it straight

514
00:24:44,093 --> 00:24:46,293
Speaker 2: in league, but just simplified, just down to the tackle.

515
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Speaker 2: And judges decide who wins. But it's making people very,

516
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Speaker 2: very angry. And I read that story in the Herald.

517
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Speaker 2: We had the neuroscientists coming through a massively against it,

518
00:24:55,573 --> 00:24:57,893
Speaker 2: but she was kind of confused and she was actually

519
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Speaker 2: going against a social media video of a different event,

520
00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:05,573
Speaker 2: not this event, not this event that this wasn't this

521
00:25:06,013 --> 00:25:09,893
Speaker 2: run It Championship is quite well organized and involves a

522
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Speaker 2: lot of safety considerations. But it got me thinking when

523
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Speaker 2: I was reading that Herald article about something that I

524
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Speaker 2: saw on breakfast television about a week ago, and it

525
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Speaker 2: was from fifty years ago, in the nineteen seventies, when

526
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Speaker 2: jogging had first started and people were freaking out of it. Jogging.

527
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Speaker 2: Jogging seems like a completely normal thing to do now.

528
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Speaker 2: I go for a run every couple of days, pretty safe.

529
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Speaker 2: It's seen as a healthy exercise. But people didn't used

530
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Speaker 2: to do it, you know Arthur Lydiad. People know the

531
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Speaker 2: story Great New Zealander who really started a sort of

532
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Speaker 2: a craze of people running long distances. There hadn't really

533
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Speaker 2: been a thing before, so people were going out and running.

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Speaker 2: And here's an article from the News from the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 16: Jogging themsysiasts tell us works wonders for body and soul.

536
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Speaker 16: It not only keeps your body fit by getting rid

537
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Speaker 16: of flag, its strengthens muscles, corn reales and lungs. But

538
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Speaker 16: is jogging really what it's cracked up to be? A

539
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Speaker 16: recently published New Zealand medical report claims that jogging is

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Speaker 16: a dangerous, pointless pastime.

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Speaker 3: Wow, a pointless a dangerous past time, A dangerous pointless

542
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Speaker 3: past time.

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Speaker 2: So you've got to you know, people were freaked out

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Speaker 2: about jogging when it started. Can you imagine that? Yeah,

545
00:26:32,093 --> 00:26:34,733
Speaker 2: so you know, as run it as run it is

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Speaker 2: this just hysteria around run it. I mean, look, if

547
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Speaker 2: you look at the you know, take a game like

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Speaker 2: rugby league. The record for the most tackles in an

549
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Speaker 2: in our rail game was Cameron mckinnis eighty one tackles

550
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Speaker 2: against the Panthers in twenty twenty three. Yep, eighty one tackles.

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Speaker 2: So you've already got a game where people doing this

552
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Speaker 2: eighty one.

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Speaker 3: Times exactly oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: the number to call Carolyn your thoughts on this, Carolyn, Hi, I.

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Speaker 17: Actually am not opposed to it. I mean contact sport

556
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Speaker 17: is what it says. It's contact sport, and there is

557
00:27:07,173 --> 00:27:11,493
Speaker 17: an element of risk, so those that are participating know

558
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Speaker 17: about that, and as long as they follow the safety

559
00:27:15,093 --> 00:27:18,853
Speaker 17: rules then they should get great enjoyment out of it.

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Speaker 17: As a blind person, I played a sport that could

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Speaker 17: be considered dangerous. I played a Paralympic sport called goal ball,

562
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Speaker 17: and basically it's three people on each side of the

563
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Speaker 17: court and we are throwing a one point two five

564
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Speaker 17: kg ball under arm down to the team at the

565
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Speaker 17: other end of the court and they basically have to

566
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Speaker 17: put their body on the line to block it from

567
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Speaker 17: scoring a goal. Now, I'm sure acc would have kittens

568
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Speaker 17: at that.

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Speaker 2: It looks fun, though, Carolyn.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 17: It's it's a load of fun. And a couple of

572
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Speaker 17: the guys who've lost their eyesight in later life say

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Speaker 17: it's as close as they've got to playing a contact

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Speaker 17: sport like rugby or league.

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Speaker 2: So, Carolyn, you're saying that you you have lost your eyesight,

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Speaker 2: have you?

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Speaker 17: I was born vision impaired and then I became totally

578
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Speaker 17: blind in twenty and eleven, right.

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Speaker 2: And so when you were playing this game, you were

580
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Speaker 2: you were completely lost your sight or you had a

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Speaker 2: little bit of sight.

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Speaker 17: It doesn't matter in this. In golble, everybody wears what

583
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Speaker 17: we call sleep shades, so they are basically blacked out.

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Speaker 2: Ski goggles, right okay.

585
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Speaker 17: And you're it's at an international level. It's even more

586
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Speaker 17: strictest than that. They tape pads over your eyes, then

587
00:28:47,693 --> 00:28:49,853
Speaker 17: they look at your goggles up and down, then you

588
00:28:49,893 --> 00:28:53,253
Speaker 17: put your goggles on, and then they check all angles.

589
00:28:53,293 --> 00:28:56,973
Speaker 17: So there's absolutely no light getting in. So even if

590
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Speaker 17: you've got some level of low vision, everybody is on

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Speaker 17: a complete.

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Speaker 2: Even And how many players on a team.

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Speaker 17: There are three players on a team.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 17: You have a left wing, a right wing, and a center.

596
00:29:11,133 --> 00:29:13,093
Speaker 2: And so you're moving forward with the ball.

597
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Speaker 17: Yes, there's The court is the same size as a

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Speaker 17: volleyball court, so it's about nine meters long and about

599
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Speaker 17: I can't remember how wide, but you've got different markings

600
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Speaker 17: on it, and the center is marked the three meter

601
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Speaker 17: line on each each end of the court.

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Speaker 2: And how do you see that.

603
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Speaker 17: You can feel it. You can feel it with your feet.

604
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Speaker 17: It's slightly raised and the wings are one and a

605
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Speaker 17: half meters back behind the center. So the idea is

606
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Speaker 17: the center flot can fly along the full width of

607
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Speaker 17: the court, and the wings protect behind the center right

608
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Speaker 17: to the goal.

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Speaker 2: And did you say it's sort of a heavy medicine

610
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Speaker 2: ball that you throw, Yes, it is.

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Speaker 17: It's a heavy medicine ball with a bell in it,

612
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Speaker 17: and you throw it under arm.

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00:30:07,293 --> 00:30:10,253
Speaker 2: Right, And so how often would people get hit by

614
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Speaker 2: the heavy medicine ball with the bill.

615
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Speaker 17: It's it's not uncommon. I mean, the fact is, the

616
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Speaker 17: only protection you've got on your face is your ski goggles.

617
00:30:18,853 --> 00:30:21,133
Speaker 17: So if you don't turn your face in the right direction,

618
00:30:21,293 --> 00:30:24,893
Speaker 17: you can get slammed in the face by that rearranged

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Speaker 17: And we wear knee pads, elbow pads, and the girls

620
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Speaker 17: wear the chests protectors that the kickboxes would wear it

621
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Speaker 17: and and the guys of course have to wear a box.

622
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Speaker 17: But of course if the guys don't wear a box

623
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Speaker 17: and everybody knows about it, they become number one target.

624
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Speaker 2: Throwing it low.

625
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Speaker 17: You throw it under arm, so it has to hit

626
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Speaker 17: the floor at a certain point on the court. And

627
00:31:00,413 --> 00:31:03,413
Speaker 17: then the idea is for people to put their bodies

628
00:31:03,413 --> 00:31:06,213
Speaker 17: on the line, so you're basically spreading out for length

629
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Speaker 17: on the floor to block that ball.

630
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Speaker 2: And if and if it goes into the goal. You

631
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Speaker 2: know it's gone into the goal. Does the umpire ti you?

632
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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, yeah, there's the whizzle's blind and it said

633
00:31:17,613 --> 00:31:23,533
Speaker 17: goal and and so then the game restarts again. So

634
00:31:23,653 --> 00:31:28,173
Speaker 17: you score a goal, but sometimes if there is a penalty,

635
00:31:28,493 --> 00:31:33,413
Speaker 17: and sometimes you have to defend your goal all by yourself.

636
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Speaker 2: Wow, that sounds really cool. Well, thanks so much for

637
00:31:36,773 --> 00:31:39,813
Speaker 2: sharing that game. And as you say, people might go, well,

638
00:31:39,853 --> 00:31:41,933
Speaker 2: there's a good chance that this heavy medicine ball with

639
00:31:41,973 --> 00:31:43,173
Speaker 2: a ball and it's going to hit someone on the

640
00:31:43,173 --> 00:31:46,253
Speaker 2: head and do some damage. But the value of the

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00:31:46,733 --> 00:31:50,213
Speaker 2: fun in the competition and and and you know, the

642
00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:53,013
Speaker 2: comaraderie imagine around the game outweigh there.

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Speaker 17: It does very much. So, I mean I've made friends

644
00:31:56,773 --> 00:32:01,533
Speaker 17: overseas through playing the game, so it's it's great fun.

645
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for sharing that with us, Caroline,

646
00:32:05,013 --> 00:32:06,373
Speaker 2: very interesting goal.

647
00:32:06,933 --> 00:32:09,893
Speaker 3: Yeah looks great. Undred eighty is the number to call

648
00:32:10,133 --> 00:32:12,453
Speaker 3: beg very shortly with more of your phone calls. It

649
00:32:12,573 --> 00:32:13,573
Speaker 3: is sixteen to two.

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Speaker 18: Run it.

651
00:32:14,493 --> 00:32:15,333
Speaker 2: Shall we ban it.

652
00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,693
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and if it have fun

653
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Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk sa'd.

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Speaker 3: Be afternoon thirteen to two and we're talking about running. Yeah,

656
00:32:27,973 --> 00:32:28,253
Speaker 3: run it.

657
00:32:28,253 --> 00:32:30,813
Speaker 2: It's a game that's coming to New Zealand. The Herald

658
00:32:30,853 --> 00:32:34,133
Speaker 2: is called it the dumber sport in the world. I disagree.

659
00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:37,813
Speaker 2: I like the idea of it. So basically what happens.

660
00:32:37,813 --> 00:32:40,733
Speaker 2: It's on a ten meter run zone called the battlefield.

661
00:32:40,933 --> 00:32:45,373
Speaker 2: You run it straight. If you've got the ball, you

662
00:32:45,893 --> 00:32:49,533
Speaker 2: win by dominating. You run it straight four rounds to impresses.

663
00:32:49,613 --> 00:32:53,573
Speaker 2: Judges hit hard standard ground and inflict damage. One player

664
00:32:53,573 --> 00:32:55,893
Speaker 2: carries the ball, the other one doesn't. So it's basically just,

665
00:32:56,533 --> 00:32:58,493
Speaker 2: you know, the first hit up in a game of

666
00:32:58,693 --> 00:33:02,413
Speaker 2: rugby league really just repeated four times. But what do

667
00:33:02,453 --> 00:33:03,173
Speaker 2: you think about this?

668
00:33:04,413 --> 00:33:04,653
Speaker 3: Bob?

669
00:33:04,693 --> 00:33:06,533
Speaker 2: This is a response to a caller called Bob. Before Bob,

670
00:33:06,533 --> 00:33:09,093
Speaker 2: the reason parents are turning away and rugby is the

671
00:33:09,093 --> 00:33:12,213
Speaker 2: amount of misinformation, mainly from the frenzied media, easy New

672
00:33:12,293 --> 00:33:14,813
Speaker 2: Zealand Herald that wants to stick the boot into the

673
00:33:14,933 --> 00:33:20,973
Speaker 2: union at any opportunity. Matt, do I love watching contact sports? Yes?

674
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:23,413
Speaker 2: I love watching people I don't know beat each other up.

675
00:33:23,453 --> 00:33:24,053
Speaker 2: Would I do it?

676
00:33:24,213 --> 00:33:24,333
Speaker 6: No?

677
00:33:24,573 --> 00:33:26,853
Speaker 2: Would I love my kids to choose less contact sports?

678
00:33:26,933 --> 00:33:27,093
Speaker 3: Hell?

679
00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:30,173
Speaker 2: Yes, I think a lot of people take that opinion.

680
00:33:30,773 --> 00:33:32,413
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Lisa. You want to talk about

681
00:33:32,453 --> 00:33:33,373
Speaker 2: combat sports.

682
00:33:34,013 --> 00:33:37,973
Speaker 7: Hi, good afternoon, And you know, I find, you know,

683
00:33:38,093 --> 00:33:43,213
Speaker 7: it's a really interesting topic. And like Carolyn your last call,

684
00:33:43,733 --> 00:33:49,093
Speaker 7: I'm not in a disagreeance with it being played. I think,

685
00:33:49,173 --> 00:33:52,373
Speaker 7: you know, people that choose to do combat sports so

686
00:33:52,493 --> 00:33:56,613
Speaker 7: usually trained for it. It's the right medical your facilities there,

687
00:33:56,733 --> 00:33:59,933
Speaker 7: or you know, they go through medical checks. For instance,

688
00:33:59,973 --> 00:34:04,453
Speaker 7: I'm in my mid fifties, nearly fifty six. In my

689
00:34:04,693 --> 00:34:07,773
Speaker 7: late twenties, I played women's rugby league when they had

690
00:34:07,773 --> 00:34:11,053
Speaker 7: it on the West Coast Tea and represented and it

691
00:34:11,133 --> 00:34:15,133
Speaker 7: was you know, the camaraderie, the yessu. You got a

692
00:34:15,133 --> 00:34:18,172
Speaker 7: few bruises, but there were never really any assidnos. I'm

693
00:34:18,173 --> 00:34:23,093
Speaker 7: not particularly large person. I was about fifty four kgsn

694
00:34:23,173 --> 00:34:26,853
Speaker 7: and a fast spread. But I loved tackling, loved it.

695
00:34:26,933 --> 00:34:29,613
Speaker 7: So if I was a few years younger, this sport

696
00:34:29,693 --> 00:34:32,373
Speaker 7: sounds like it would be a lot of fun. You know,

697
00:34:32,453 --> 00:34:36,093
Speaker 7: we wore mouthguards. I often wore shin guards because getting

698
00:34:36,173 --> 00:34:39,093
Speaker 7: kicked in the shins is pretty bad. But you know,

699
00:34:39,493 --> 00:34:42,573
Speaker 7: it was great fun and we had really good times.

700
00:34:42,773 --> 00:34:45,652
Speaker 7: I also competed in boxing. I need did that for

701
00:34:45,693 --> 00:34:48,773
Speaker 7: about a year and a bit and I represented New

702
00:34:48,853 --> 00:34:51,933
Speaker 7: Zealand and you know, people would think and I was

703
00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:57,373
Speaker 7: the only woman boxer on the West Coast and doing

704
00:34:57,413 --> 00:35:00,973
Speaker 7: the sports, so I had to train with guys. But

705
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:03,973
Speaker 7: the thing is you do train. You train to be fit,

706
00:35:04,453 --> 00:35:07,133
Speaker 7: you train to be strong. You know that you're going

707
00:35:07,173 --> 00:35:10,733
Speaker 7: into combat sport, but in boxing in particular, I find

708
00:35:10,893 --> 00:35:13,573
Speaker 7: that you are really well looked after. We have medicals

709
00:35:13,613 --> 00:35:16,732
Speaker 7: for medicals, you get checked by a doctor before the bout.

710
00:35:17,013 --> 00:35:20,133
Speaker 7: After about there's a doctor on site. And currently I've

711
00:35:20,173 --> 00:35:23,973
Speaker 7: got back into the sport in my fifties and New

712
00:35:24,053 --> 00:35:28,172
Speaker 7: Zealand's oldest female boxer just recently went to Australia and

713
00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,733
Speaker 7: competed over there, and you know, it's so well run.

714
00:35:31,933 --> 00:35:35,373
Speaker 7: It really is master's boxing. Unfortunately I'm too old to

715
00:35:35,413 --> 00:35:38,493
Speaker 7: compete in New Zealans so I have to go overseas.

716
00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:41,172
Speaker 7: But it's a combat sport, but there is a real

717
00:35:41,853 --> 00:35:45,652
Speaker 7: respect for your opponents. Yes, I mean I've never been

718
00:35:45,733 --> 00:35:48,533
Speaker 7: knocked out. I've never been hurt in the ring touch wood,

719
00:35:49,293 --> 00:35:51,493
Speaker 7: but you know, you take that risk as you do

720
00:35:51,653 --> 00:35:53,652
Speaker 7: with any combat sport, as you do with a lot

721
00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:57,733
Speaker 7: of things in life. But you challenge in the enjoyment,

722
00:35:58,253 --> 00:36:02,053
Speaker 7: the passion, the people. You meet, a doctor and a

723
00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:05,493
Speaker 7: referee on site. They stop it if someone's you know,

724
00:36:06,213 --> 00:36:10,133
Speaker 7: too far advanced on their opponent. Yeah, there are certain

725
00:36:10,253 --> 00:36:15,693
Speaker 7: checks we wear. You know, you're wearing breastguard, you've got

726
00:36:16,493 --> 00:36:20,813
Speaker 7: sixteen out gloves. And there are ones and overseas that

727
00:36:20,893 --> 00:36:24,413
Speaker 7: are in their sixties seventies competing on the oldest female

728
00:36:24,453 --> 00:36:27,692
Speaker 7: in New Zealand. However, when I go over there, there

729
00:36:27,733 --> 00:36:32,053
Speaker 7: are not many older females to be fair about. But

730
00:36:32,133 --> 00:36:36,333
Speaker 7: there are older males competing in the masters and it's terrouristic.

731
00:36:36,533 --> 00:36:37,453
Speaker 7: It's really well run.

732
00:36:37,533 --> 00:36:39,533
Speaker 2: You know, it sounds I run it as well. You know,

733
00:36:39,573 --> 00:36:43,373
Speaker 2: the official run at Championship is you know, and you

734
00:36:43,373 --> 00:36:46,813
Speaker 2: know they've got safety protocols in place. You know where

735
00:36:46,853 --> 00:36:48,973
Speaker 2: you can tackle. You know, you can't be above the

736
00:36:48,973 --> 00:36:50,773
Speaker 2: shoulders or below the waist and you've got to wear

737
00:36:50,773 --> 00:36:53,533
Speaker 2: a mouthguard and there's medical people on board and there's

738
00:36:53,573 --> 00:36:57,333
Speaker 2: medical test. Yeah, same weights. But before people are very fair,

739
00:36:57,613 --> 00:37:00,133
Speaker 2: very fair. Absolutely. Now a lot of people are texting

740
00:37:00,173 --> 00:37:02,453
Speaker 2: through and saying that maybe it's all right in this

741
00:37:02,493 --> 00:37:05,813
Speaker 2: competition for run at the run at Championship League to

742
00:37:05,893 --> 00:37:09,053
Speaker 2: run but that it's a bad influence on kids and

743
00:37:09,053 --> 00:37:11,933
Speaker 2: that kids will be doing it at school and such.

744
00:37:12,413 --> 00:37:14,493
Speaker 2: You what do you think about that in terms of boxing,

745
00:37:14,773 --> 00:37:17,573
Speaker 2: because people could argue that they see boxing and then

746
00:37:17,933 --> 00:37:19,093
Speaker 2: they take it to the streets.

747
00:37:19,373 --> 00:37:22,692
Speaker 7: Totally get you there, But with boxing as a real

748
00:37:22,733 --> 00:37:26,173
Speaker 7: respect sport to get in the ring, to train a trainer.

749
00:37:26,573 --> 00:37:28,213
Speaker 7: You know, if you go along to a German and

750
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:32,453
Speaker 7: sure enough I've helped train kids as well. And you know,

751
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:34,773
Speaker 7: if someone comes along and they just wanted to punch

752
00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:38,172
Speaker 7: or beat people up, they soon learn that boxing as

753
00:37:38,773 --> 00:37:40,973
Speaker 7: the other fell that you had it on it is

754
00:37:41,013 --> 00:37:44,692
Speaker 7: an odd It's not about beating people up. I've been

755
00:37:45,013 --> 00:37:48,493
Speaker 7: a victim of domestic abuse, believe it or not, never

756
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:50,973
Speaker 7: been hurt in the ring, but sering hurt out of

757
00:37:51,093 --> 00:37:55,493
Speaker 7: the ring, and for me that self empowerment of the

758
00:37:55,693 --> 00:38:00,493
Speaker 7: discipline of the sport. I actually think it's a great

759
00:38:00,533 --> 00:38:04,252
Speaker 7: sense for kids if it's disciplined and run well. They're

760
00:38:04,293 --> 00:38:07,733
Speaker 7: integrating it in sport as schools now they're sport boxing.

761
00:38:07,813 --> 00:38:12,613
Speaker 7: We have from a little town called Reefton, we have

762
00:38:13,413 --> 00:38:16,573
Speaker 7: this boxing and some of the schools we had a

763
00:38:16,613 --> 00:38:20,453
Speaker 7: small boxing gym and there are some very dedicated children

764
00:38:20,573 --> 00:38:22,733
Speaker 7: drawing boxing. You'll find the ones that are wanting to

765
00:38:22,773 --> 00:38:25,732
Speaker 7: do bullying stuff. They don't last, they don't they don't

766
00:38:25,773 --> 00:38:31,693
Speaker 7: really get, they don't get to stay, and they don't

767
00:38:31,933 --> 00:38:34,413
Speaker 7: really want to stay when they realize that it's not

768
00:38:34,533 --> 00:38:36,813
Speaker 7: about being a bully or beating people up at all.

769
00:38:36,973 --> 00:38:39,652
Speaker 3: Really total, really nicely said lie. So, I wish we

770
00:38:39,693 --> 00:38:41,252
Speaker 3: had more time, but we're out of time, but thank

771
00:38:41,293 --> 00:38:43,413
Speaker 3: you very much. I've got to take a quick break,

772
00:38:43,453 --> 00:38:46,493
Speaker 3: but we'll come back very shortly. It is seven to two.

773
00:38:48,453 --> 00:38:52,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

774
00:38:52,013 --> 00:38:56,093
Speaker 1: and eighty Tight. It's Mad Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons news talks.

775
00:38:56,093 --> 00:38:59,652
Speaker 3: They be it is forward to two. Great discussion on

776
00:38:59,693 --> 00:39:01,652
Speaker 3: this new sport called run It, which is coming to

777
00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:03,292
Speaker 3: New Zealand in about a month's time.

778
00:39:04,173 --> 00:39:06,293
Speaker 2: So basically two people, one with the ball, they run

779
00:39:06,333 --> 00:39:09,292
Speaker 2: at each other and a ten meter battlefield and see

780
00:39:09,293 --> 00:39:11,013
Speaker 2: who dominates according to the judges.

781
00:39:11,133 --> 00:39:11,773
Speaker 3: Yeah.

782
00:39:11,773 --> 00:39:14,733
Speaker 2: Look, I think the championship takes a safety seriously. Like

783
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,013
Speaker 2: all combat sports, their risks, but people are choosing to

784
00:39:17,013 --> 00:39:21,173
Speaker 2: be involved. It's safer arguably than rugby league because you

785
00:39:21,213 --> 00:39:24,613
Speaker 2: are hitting people front on. The video that's going around

786
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:26,893
Speaker 2: isn't from it run at Championship league, so it's sort

787
00:39:26,893 --> 00:39:33,093
Speaker 2: of unfair to compare. So I say straight in the attack, run.

788
00:39:32,893 --> 00:39:38,013
Speaker 3: It Run it. Great discussion and thank you to everybody

789
00:39:38,053 --> 00:39:40,373
Speaker 3: who called and text. It was a lively discussion and

790
00:39:40,413 --> 00:39:43,093
Speaker 3: we love that. Right. Coming up after two o'clock, let's

791
00:39:43,133 --> 00:39:45,732
Speaker 3: have a chat about saying goodbye to a loved one

792
00:39:45,733 --> 00:39:48,413
Speaker 3: in terms of the costs involved. What do you need

793
00:39:48,453 --> 00:39:51,013
Speaker 3: to look out for on the back of a story

794
00:39:51,053 --> 00:39:53,733
Speaker 3: about many families who were hard done by when they

795
00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:56,373
Speaker 3: went to purchase some headstones. But I wait, hundred eighty

796
00:39:56,453 --> 00:39:58,693
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Looking forward to

797
00:39:58,693 --> 00:39:59,853
Speaker 3: your stories very surely.

798
00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:04,293
Speaker 8: Talking with you all afternoon.

799
00:40:04,573 --> 00:40:08,013
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

800
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Speaker 3: Said good afternoon to you, Welcome into the program. Now,

801
00:40:14,053 --> 00:40:17,413
Speaker 3: just before we get into this topic, anyone who says

802
00:40:17,533 --> 00:40:21,893
Speaker 3: we don't do our research well, Matt, in preparation for

803
00:40:21,973 --> 00:40:25,053
Speaker 3: this next hour, had a document that he was wanting

804
00:40:25,093 --> 00:40:27,253
Speaker 3: to print, and he just wanted to print one page.

805
00:40:27,413 --> 00:40:29,533
Speaker 3: How many pages do you reckon you've printed? Off there.

806
00:40:29,613 --> 00:40:31,573
Speaker 2: Man, Well, let's just say there's no ink for my

807
00:40:31,653 --> 00:40:34,613
Speaker 2: costing tomorrow morning or hither duplic l in this afternoon,

808
00:40:34,653 --> 00:40:38,853
Speaker 2: because I've printed a two hundred page twenty twenty three

809
00:40:38,933 --> 00:40:41,613
Speaker 2: New Zealand funeral industry trends report.

810
00:40:42,773 --> 00:40:45,093
Speaker 3: I didn't in color as well. Do you know how

811
00:40:45,133 --> 00:40:48,293
Speaker 3: much Cyan incers? I mean, it's gonna sink this company.

812
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,773
Speaker 2: This is an important document and all two hundred pages

813
00:40:50,853 --> 00:40:52,933
Speaker 2: needed to be printed out, and in that three minutes

814
00:40:52,973 --> 00:40:55,413
Speaker 2: I've memorized the whole lot. So I'm now an absolute

815
00:40:55,533 --> 00:40:58,013
Speaker 2: expert on the funeral industry. Okay, we are ready to

816
00:40:58,053 --> 00:41:00,173
Speaker 2: go go in time for this hour's discussion.

817
00:41:00,253 --> 00:41:02,053
Speaker 3: And sorry to hear that, and Mike for having no

818
00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:04,413
Speaker 3: ink in your print out right. So the topic at

819
00:41:04,413 --> 00:41:06,493
Speaker 3: hand is what to look out for when saying goodbye

820
00:41:06,533 --> 00:41:08,213
Speaker 3: to a loved one. So it's on the beak of

821
00:41:08,253 --> 00:41:10,893
Speaker 3: a story in the paper today several families are urging

822
00:41:10,893 --> 00:41:14,732
Speaker 3: caution after a formal, former rather funeral director allegedly took

823
00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:17,533
Speaker 3: money for headstones without ever delivering them. It is a

824
00:41:17,653 --> 00:41:19,773
Speaker 3: very sad, cruel story and it appears they have been

825
00:41:19,853 --> 00:41:22,813
Speaker 3: ripped off, but it opens it up to a wider

826
00:41:22,973 --> 00:41:26,933
Speaker 3: discussion about the costs of funerals and having to say

827
00:41:27,013 --> 00:41:30,133
Speaker 3: goodbye to someone you love. What do you need to

828
00:41:30,173 --> 00:41:33,093
Speaker 3: be aware of when organizing something like a funeral? They're

829
00:41:33,093 --> 00:41:34,253
Speaker 3: incredibly expensive.

830
00:41:34,413 --> 00:41:36,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of the things you need to look

831
00:41:36,093 --> 00:41:38,573
Speaker 2: out for because we've all heard stories of people being

832
00:41:38,613 --> 00:41:41,813
Speaker 2: emotionally manipulated into spending more money than they need to do,

833
00:41:41,893 --> 00:41:46,053
Speaker 2: and the price of things being inflated because people are

834
00:41:46,053 --> 00:41:48,333
Speaker 2: in the emotional state that they are whilst they're grieving.

835
00:41:48,893 --> 00:41:51,133
Speaker 2: What have you paid too much for looking back that

836
00:41:51,173 --> 00:41:54,093
Speaker 2: people might look out for in the future. What should

837
00:41:54,133 --> 00:41:56,333
Speaker 2: you look out in terms of ripoffs is another question?

838
00:41:56,413 --> 00:42:00,652
Speaker 2: And because arguably it shouldn't cost much to barrier love one,

839
00:42:00,653 --> 00:42:06,133
Speaker 2: how much should you spend is important to is it actually?

840
00:42:06,133 --> 00:42:09,493
Speaker 2: And this is a question I've got Is it important

841
00:42:09,533 --> 00:42:12,093
Speaker 2: to spend a lot to show how much you care?

842
00:42:12,373 --> 00:42:14,573
Speaker 2: Is it a display? I mean, I'm not talking about

843
00:42:14,573 --> 00:42:18,333
Speaker 2: building a pyramid and throwing a bunch of gold on

844
00:42:18,373 --> 00:42:21,172
Speaker 2: top of it, but is it? I mean, I think

845
00:42:21,173 --> 00:42:25,133
Speaker 2: about that movie about Schmidt when you know the main

846
00:42:25,213 --> 00:42:28,253
Speaker 2: character is Jack Nicholson's hassled by his daughter because he

847
00:42:28,293 --> 00:42:31,973
Speaker 2: bought the cheap casket for his wife and her mother,

848
00:42:32,213 --> 00:42:33,573
Speaker 2: he said, and she said, just at the end of

849
00:42:33,573 --> 00:42:35,893
Speaker 2: the movie, why did you buy the cheap casket? And

850
00:42:35,933 --> 00:42:39,293
Speaker 2: it was sort of a moment where it was, you know,

851
00:42:39,333 --> 00:42:41,573
Speaker 2: the plot point was that he didn't care enough to

852
00:42:41,573 --> 00:42:44,213
Speaker 2: spend the big money on his wife. I mean, middly

853
00:42:44,213 --> 00:42:45,692
Speaker 2: he did find out that she'd been cheating on her

854
00:42:45,933 --> 00:42:47,013
Speaker 2: on him, but that's a different issue.

855
00:42:47,093 --> 00:42:48,853
Speaker 3: Great movie, great movie, but that is a big part

856
00:42:48,853 --> 00:42:51,133
Speaker 3: of it. And I believe that in the US.

857
00:42:50,933 --> 00:42:51,732
Speaker 2: Maybe they do it here.

858
00:42:51,773 --> 00:42:55,853
Speaker 3: But you can hire the nice caskets just for the service,

859
00:42:55,933 --> 00:42:58,053
Speaker 3: but you get buried in something that is a bit

860
00:42:58,053 --> 00:43:01,493
Speaker 3: more humble, shall we say, But that would, you know,

861
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:03,733
Speaker 3: lead most people to say that you want to have

862
00:43:03,773 --> 00:43:07,133
Speaker 3: something rather extravagant, You want to spend quite a bit

863
00:43:07,133 --> 00:43:11,893
Speaker 3: of money to show somehow that in death you still

864
00:43:11,973 --> 00:43:12,772
Speaker 3: dearly love them.

865
00:43:12,933 --> 00:43:13,172
Speaker 19: Yeah.

866
00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:15,493
Speaker 2: It's an interesting one though, because when I go, I

867
00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:17,373
Speaker 2: would hate for anyone to spend too much money on it.

868
00:43:17,373 --> 00:43:19,853
Speaker 2: I'd rather they spend the money on themselves. You know,

869
00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:23,253
Speaker 2: if my kids blew a lot of money, I'd be like, no, no,

870
00:43:23,293 --> 00:43:26,493
Speaker 2: buy yourself something nice. Have me in a hole, buy

871
00:43:26,533 --> 00:43:27,493
Speaker 2: yourself something nice.

872
00:43:27,613 --> 00:43:30,173
Speaker 3: You know, Well, I mean, the average cost of a

873
00:43:30,173 --> 00:43:33,692
Speaker 3: funeral in New Zealand, Well, the whole process actually was

874
00:43:34,093 --> 00:43:37,693
Speaker 3: between eight to fifteen thousand dollars, So you get that

875
00:43:37,853 --> 00:43:40,893
Speaker 3: right in the middle, twelve thousand dollars to on top

876
00:43:40,893 --> 00:43:43,133
Speaker 3: of everything that's going on when you're trying to organize

877
00:43:43,173 --> 00:43:43,613
Speaker 3: this stuff.

878
00:43:43,653 --> 00:43:45,413
Speaker 2: That is a heck of a lot of strain for

879
00:43:45,453 --> 00:43:48,213
Speaker 2: a lot of families. And you know, as I was

880
00:43:48,253 --> 00:43:51,133
Speaker 2: saying before, I feel like people are in a state

881
00:43:51,253 --> 00:43:54,373
Speaker 2: at that point where they will spend nearly anything because

882
00:43:54,573 --> 00:43:57,213
Speaker 2: they feel like they're showing their love at that point

883
00:43:57,253 --> 00:44:01,013
Speaker 2: for the past person. But is that really showing your

884
00:44:01,013 --> 00:44:04,692
Speaker 2: love buying something that's incredibly expensive that just go gets

885
00:44:04,733 --> 00:44:06,212
Speaker 2: buried in the ground never to be seen again.

886
00:44:06,373 --> 00:44:06,613
Speaker 14: Yeah.

887
00:44:06,653 --> 00:44:08,772
Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

888
00:44:08,773 --> 00:44:10,573
Speaker 3: to call love to hear your thoughts on this one.

889
00:44:10,653 --> 00:44:12,773
Speaker 3: How much did you spend if you had to organize

890
00:44:12,813 --> 00:44:15,093
Speaker 3: a funeral for one of your loved ones who passed,

891
00:44:15,333 --> 00:44:17,813
Speaker 3: And what do you need to look out for where

892
00:44:17,853 --> 00:44:20,173
Speaker 3: there's some costs, hidden costs that you didn't expect that

893
00:44:20,253 --> 00:44:22,293
Speaker 3: popped up. Love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred

894
00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:24,853
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's eleven

895
00:44:24,933 --> 00:44:26,893
Speaker 3: past two.

896
00:44:27,493 --> 00:44:31,692
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

897
00:44:31,893 --> 00:44:35,093
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said.

898
00:44:34,813 --> 00:44:34,973
Speaker 7: Be.

899
00:44:37,253 --> 00:44:41,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about the cost of funerals and burials.

900
00:44:41,853 --> 00:44:44,413
Speaker 3: What to look out for if you have to say

901
00:44:44,453 --> 00:44:47,053
Speaker 3: goodbye to a loved one. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

902
00:44:47,093 --> 00:44:49,652
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Some great texts coming

903
00:44:49,653 --> 00:44:53,733
Speaker 3: through on nine two ninety two. This one from Bridget

904
00:44:53,773 --> 00:44:54,413
Speaker 3: I've just lost it.

905
00:44:54,453 --> 00:44:54,813
Speaker 6: Here we go.

906
00:44:54,893 --> 00:44:55,373
Speaker 2: Hey guys.

907
00:44:55,413 --> 00:44:57,973
Speaker 3: I attended a funeral where the casket was plywood, and

908
00:44:58,013 --> 00:45:00,453
Speaker 3: we were each given a colored pen to write messages

909
00:45:00,533 --> 00:45:01,293
Speaker 3: on the casket.

910
00:45:01,453 --> 00:45:02,253
Speaker 2: See that's lovely.

911
00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:03,013
Speaker 8: That is nice.

912
00:45:03,053 --> 00:45:11,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's lovely. Uh clear, Good afternoon to you, hallam,

913
00:45:11,973 --> 00:45:12,413
Speaker 3: Sorry you go.

914
00:45:13,133 --> 00:45:17,053
Speaker 20: My mom passed away six years ago, and my call

915
00:45:17,293 --> 00:45:22,293
Speaker 20: was around being very careful around the funeral homes because

916
00:45:22,693 --> 00:45:26,293
Speaker 20: my brother was overseas, so he took over trying to

917
00:45:26,333 --> 00:45:31,213
Speaker 20: find a funeral home to say bye to my mom.

918
00:45:31,453 --> 00:45:35,013
Speaker 20: They contacted me and I asked him if they could

919
00:45:35,013 --> 00:45:36,933
Speaker 20: send me a quote. So I sent it Love to

920
00:45:36,973 --> 00:45:40,413
Speaker 20: my brother and we both thought, well that's actually quite pricing.

921
00:45:40,853 --> 00:45:45,293
Speaker 20: So my brother dug around and found another lovely funeral home,

922
00:45:45,813 --> 00:45:48,893
Speaker 20: and so I agreed with the second funeral home. And

923
00:45:49,173 --> 00:45:51,733
Speaker 20: when they went to collect my mom from the hospital,

924
00:45:51,853 --> 00:45:55,293
Speaker 20: she had already been collected by this first funeral home

925
00:45:55,333 --> 00:45:57,813
Speaker 20: that I had not agreed that I wanted them to

926
00:45:57,853 --> 00:45:58,373
Speaker 20: take over.

927
00:45:58,973 --> 00:45:59,253
Speaker 8: Wow.

928
00:45:59,373 --> 00:46:01,613
Speaker 20: They then tried to say to my brother that.

929
00:46:01,613 --> 00:46:02,693
Speaker 12: Well, they'll be a.

930
00:46:04,453 --> 00:46:07,692
Speaker 20: Cost because we've already collected your mom. Needless to say,

931
00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:11,773
Speaker 20: he was fous anyway, they back down said, you know,

932
00:46:12,333 --> 00:46:14,693
Speaker 20: you can come and collect your mum now the second

933
00:46:14,693 --> 00:46:19,333
Speaker 20: funeral home, which were amazing. When they went to collect

934
00:46:19,413 --> 00:46:24,413
Speaker 20: my mum, they afterwards told me that this particular funeral home,

935
00:46:24,453 --> 00:46:27,692
Speaker 20: the first one, were renowned for doing that sort of thing,

936
00:46:27,773 --> 00:46:30,973
Speaker 20: because a lot of people any grief would then say

937
00:46:31,093 --> 00:46:33,853
Speaker 20: a lot of know, it's too it's too hard to

938
00:46:33,853 --> 00:46:34,573
Speaker 20: try and play.

939
00:46:34,413 --> 00:46:36,373
Speaker 16: Something this one.

940
00:46:36,773 --> 00:46:39,293
Speaker 20: And it was the most terrific story. And you know,

941
00:46:39,453 --> 00:46:43,933
Speaker 20: it's a dreadful, dreadful thing to go through you, my brother.

942
00:46:44,653 --> 00:46:46,133
Speaker 20: I mean, of course I can't tell you the name

943
00:46:46,173 --> 00:46:48,933
Speaker 20: of them, but my brother actually nicknamed them the body

944
00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:53,172
Speaker 20: snatches because because of what they did.

945
00:46:53,653 --> 00:46:56,933
Speaker 2: So basically clear what happened was, can I just go

946
00:46:57,013 --> 00:46:59,933
Speaker 2: back a step in the story clear, So you just applied,

947
00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:05,013
Speaker 2: you basically asked the cost of and but but during

948
00:47:05,053 --> 00:47:06,933
Speaker 2: that process you had to say with your mums what

949
00:47:06,973 --> 00:47:09,772
Speaker 2: your mum's name was, and where she was, etc.

950
00:47:10,373 --> 00:47:12,413
Speaker 20: Well, I think that I think that they knew that

951
00:47:12,533 --> 00:47:15,493
Speaker 20: from talking to my brother passed away at this date

952
00:47:15,693 --> 00:47:20,733
Speaker 20: at the Norcial hospital. And but I said send me

953
00:47:20,773 --> 00:47:23,413
Speaker 20: a quote because of course my brother needed to agree

954
00:47:23,453 --> 00:47:28,413
Speaker 20: as well. So and we never agreed for them to

955
00:47:28,453 --> 00:47:32,613
Speaker 20: take pick mum's body up. And you know which amazed

956
00:47:32,653 --> 00:47:35,613
Speaker 20: me because apparently not even the hospital so when they

957
00:47:35,613 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 20: went to collect her, there's nothing that comes from the

958
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:43,013
Speaker 20: family to say agree for that to happen, which I

959
00:47:43,173 --> 00:47:43,853
Speaker 20: was horrified.

960
00:47:44,013 --> 00:47:45,533
Speaker 2: You'd think there would need to be you know, I

961
00:47:45,573 --> 00:47:47,773
Speaker 2: don't know much about that how it all works at

962
00:47:47,773 --> 00:47:51,213
Speaker 2: that point, but there's no paperwork saying that we're allowed

963
00:47:51,213 --> 00:47:51,893
Speaker 2: to take this body.

964
00:47:53,293 --> 00:47:55,893
Speaker 20: Nothing they turned up at the hospital because I looked

965
00:47:55,893 --> 00:48:00,453
Speaker 20: into it because I was furious, as the hospital told me,

966
00:48:01,053 --> 00:48:04,933
Speaker 20: there's nothing that needs to be signed. They just can

967
00:48:05,013 --> 00:48:07,613
Speaker 20: turn up and say we're here for and then give

968
00:48:07,693 --> 00:48:09,253
Speaker 20: the name and then the.

969
00:48:10,733 --> 00:48:12,373
Speaker 12: Ones that passed over to them dirty.

970
00:48:14,013 --> 00:48:17,493
Speaker 20: So and the more rectory was the fact that they

971
00:48:17,573 --> 00:48:21,772
Speaker 20: were renowned for doing this because in people's grief, they

972
00:48:22,053 --> 00:48:26,013
Speaker 20: don't want the you know, it's really a really upset

973
00:48:26,013 --> 00:48:29,053
Speaker 20: in time, and a lot of people just sat around

974
00:48:29,053 --> 00:48:30,613
Speaker 20: and said, oh, let's just stay with them.

975
00:48:31,013 --> 00:48:33,333
Speaker 3: How did you resolve it in the end? Clear, is

976
00:48:33,373 --> 00:48:36,253
Speaker 3: there surely there's a body you can go to to

977
00:48:36,453 --> 00:48:37,973
Speaker 3: make complaints or something like that.

978
00:48:39,213 --> 00:48:41,893
Speaker 20: Well, I don't know, To be fairness, I think my brother.

979
00:48:42,293 --> 00:48:44,133
Speaker 20: I mean, it was very hard on me because I

980
00:48:44,173 --> 00:48:46,853
Speaker 20: was the only one here. So my brother actually dealt

981
00:48:46,853 --> 00:48:48,133
Speaker 20: with it from the UK.

982
00:48:48,253 --> 00:48:50,493
Speaker 2: Right, And so you just you just you just thought

983
00:48:50,493 --> 00:48:52,133
Speaker 2: it was better to let it go. The body had

984
00:48:52,133 --> 00:48:53,652
Speaker 2: been picked up, and then you just wanted to move

985
00:48:53,693 --> 00:48:55,333
Speaker 2: on with the funeral with the people that you actually

986
00:48:55,493 --> 00:48:57,413
Speaker 2: wanted to work with. And the first you know that

987
00:48:57,453 --> 00:49:00,373
Speaker 2: you decided to go with just Yeah, so.

988
00:49:00,333 --> 00:49:02,813
Speaker 20: I went ahead with it. I mean now, like you know,

989
00:49:02,933 --> 00:49:05,773
Speaker 20: listening to what you were talking about, I wish I

990
00:49:05,813 --> 00:49:10,133
Speaker 20: had taken it further because it's a point. Yeah, no

991
00:49:10,173 --> 00:49:15,693
Speaker 20: doubt that they're like to me praying on grief, going

992
00:49:15,733 --> 00:49:16,252
Speaker 20: through grief.

993
00:49:16,613 --> 00:49:17,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call.

994
00:49:17,853 --> 00:49:20,413
Speaker 3: Clear, that is we see things to watch out for.

995
00:49:20,453 --> 00:49:21,333
Speaker 3: That is a biggie.

996
00:49:21,533 --> 00:49:23,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, you ring round, you want to

997
00:49:23,933 --> 00:49:25,573
Speaker 2: get the best deal you want to maybe you're not

998
00:49:25,573 --> 00:49:27,013
Speaker 2: even trying to get the best deal. That's probably a

999
00:49:27,093 --> 00:49:28,613
Speaker 2: terrible way to put it, but you want to get

1000
00:49:29,133 --> 00:49:31,253
Speaker 2: you know, the right the right people for you to

1001
00:49:31,653 --> 00:49:32,453
Speaker 2: deal with the funeral.

1002
00:49:32,493 --> 00:49:33,493
Speaker 3: You should be in control of it.

1003
00:49:33,573 --> 00:49:36,173
Speaker 2: And then they take that information and go and grab

1004
00:49:36,253 --> 00:49:39,213
Speaker 2: the body and then just assume that you don't want

1005
00:49:39,253 --> 00:49:40,933
Speaker 2: to mess around with it and you'll just go with them.

1006
00:49:40,973 --> 00:49:42,453
Speaker 3: That's that is low.

1007
00:49:42,653 --> 00:49:46,413
Speaker 2: That is dirty. Body snatches, very dirty. But people that

1008
00:49:47,453 --> 00:49:50,053
Speaker 2: run scams, well, you know, like we don't know all

1009
00:49:50,053 --> 00:49:52,172
Speaker 2: the details of that, but people that run you know,

1010
00:49:53,373 --> 00:49:56,172
Speaker 2: make more money than they should or running a little

1011
00:49:56,173 --> 00:49:57,933
Speaker 2: bit of angle to make more money on people with

1012
00:49:58,013 --> 00:50:02,373
Speaker 2: their grieving. I mean absolute skim Yeah.

1013
00:50:02,413 --> 00:50:06,013
Speaker 3: Absolutely. If you run a funeral parlor, do you still

1014
00:50:06,013 --> 00:50:08,973
Speaker 3: call them parlors? Funeral service home? So, if you are

1015
00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:11,172
Speaker 3: in the industry, we'd love to hear from you, how

1016
00:50:11,213 --> 00:50:14,773
Speaker 3: do you approach that conversation around how much it's going

1017
00:50:14,813 --> 00:50:16,973
Speaker 3: to cost? Because that must be the big thing straight

1018
00:50:17,053 --> 00:50:19,933
Speaker 3: up front. First thing you do is offer your condolences

1019
00:50:19,973 --> 00:50:22,773
Speaker 3: and then you'd have to present what the costs are

1020
00:50:22,853 --> 00:50:23,453
Speaker 3: up front.

1021
00:50:23,293 --> 00:50:27,413
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, well absolutely. I mean you know some people

1022
00:50:27,573 --> 00:50:29,333
Speaker 2: might go and they're grieving they said, I don't care

1023
00:50:29,373 --> 00:50:32,973
Speaker 2: what it costs, just just just go and get it sorted.

1024
00:50:33,973 --> 00:50:36,053
Speaker 2: But that could really blow out. Yeah.

1025
00:50:36,093 --> 00:50:36,693
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1026
00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:38,493
Speaker 2: But you know, if you have if you if it's

1027
00:50:38,533 --> 00:50:41,293
Speaker 2: a wedding, you have a budget, you go, I want this.

1028
00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:43,533
Speaker 2: But then what happens, you see, is they go, well

1029
00:50:43,613 --> 00:50:47,493
Speaker 2: you could have this, yeah, but some people prefer the

1030
00:50:47,533 --> 00:50:52,813
Speaker 2: silk laden coffin and the varnished mahogany.

1031
00:50:52,933 --> 00:50:53,573
Speaker 3: Yeah they do.

1032
00:50:53,693 --> 00:50:55,493
Speaker 2: You know it looks nice, Yeah, it looks nice, but

1033
00:50:55,613 --> 00:50:57,893
Speaker 2: really doesn't matter. Just put them in supplywood and throw

1034
00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:00,053
Speaker 2: them in a hole, you know, doesn't That's nothing to

1035
00:51:00,053 --> 00:51:01,253
Speaker 2: do with how much you love the person.

1036
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:03,893
Speaker 3: That's what you want. Oh eight hundred ten eighty is

1037
00:51:03,933 --> 00:51:05,973
Speaker 3: the number to call love to hear your stories. It

1038
00:51:06,013 --> 00:51:06,893
Speaker 3: is twenty past two.

1039
00:51:11,373 --> 00:51:14,773
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1040
00:51:14,813 --> 00:51:16,693
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

1041
00:51:17,053 --> 00:51:19,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. It's twenty two past two and

1042
00:51:19,333 --> 00:51:22,293
Speaker 3: we're talking about the costs of funerals and burials and

1043
00:51:22,333 --> 00:51:26,773
Speaker 3: that whole process incredibly expensive. The average cost in New

1044
00:51:26,853 --> 00:51:29,813
Speaker 3: Zealand four a funeral and this These are loose figures

1045
00:51:29,813 --> 00:51:32,413
Speaker 3: according to a twenty nineteen Ministry of Health report, but

1046
00:51:32,573 --> 00:51:36,133
Speaker 3: it is between eight thousand and twelve thousand dollars. That's

1047
00:51:36,173 --> 00:51:36,973
Speaker 3: a lot of money.

1048
00:51:37,293 --> 00:51:39,653
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if any of my family members are listening

1049
00:51:39,693 --> 00:51:42,933
Speaker 2: right now, I won't from beyond the grave think that

1050
00:51:42,973 --> 00:51:45,413
Speaker 2: you don't love me. If you spend as little as

1051
00:51:45,453 --> 00:51:48,772
Speaker 2: you can.

1052
00:51:46,373 --> 00:51:49,693
Speaker 3: And keep that how much did you say that was

1053
00:51:50,093 --> 00:51:51,653
Speaker 3: between eight thousand and twelve thousand.

1054
00:51:51,693 --> 00:51:53,893
Speaker 2: I'd prefer that you've divvy up that eight to twelve

1055
00:51:53,973 --> 00:51:56,733
Speaker 2: thousand amongst yourself and buy yourself something nice or.

1056
00:51:56,733 --> 00:51:59,212
Speaker 3: Do something so a nice little service for five hundred.

1057
00:51:59,013 --> 00:52:00,853
Speaker 2: That would make me happy. Yep, that would make me

1058
00:52:00,893 --> 00:52:04,413
Speaker 2: happy if you just do the absolute cheapest job you can.

1059
00:52:04,653 --> 00:52:05,773
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm with you.

1060
00:52:06,693 --> 00:52:07,533
Speaker 2: Well, just know that that.

1061
00:52:07,733 --> 00:52:09,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need to mahogany whatever.

1062
00:52:09,973 --> 00:52:14,093
Speaker 2: Celebrate me by skimping on every single thing and spending

1063
00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:16,573
Speaker 2: that money on yourself. Yep. Can you put that in

1064
00:52:16,613 --> 00:52:16,933
Speaker 2: your will?

1065
00:52:17,173 --> 00:52:17,373
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1066
00:52:17,853 --> 00:52:19,933
Speaker 2: Again, I will come back if I find out that

1067
00:52:19,933 --> 00:52:23,053
Speaker 2: you're buying a flash coffin, or there's too much being

1068
00:52:23,453 --> 00:52:27,293
Speaker 2: spent or the you know, there's whatever. I'm coming back

1069
00:52:27,293 --> 00:52:29,293
Speaker 2: to horn you exactly, I.

1070
00:52:29,293 --> 00:52:32,693
Speaker 3: On one hundred and eighty ten eighty C number. Call Wayne,

1071
00:52:33,133 --> 00:52:35,573
Speaker 3: you had a bad experience. Did you win organized in

1072
00:52:35,733 --> 00:52:36,253
Speaker 3: a funeral?

1073
00:52:37,013 --> 00:52:41,732
Speaker 21: Yeah, guys, I actually wasn't organizing it. Situation was that

1074
00:52:42,173 --> 00:52:47,293
Speaker 21: the deceased knew that he was dying and he picked

1075
00:52:47,453 --> 00:52:51,652
Speaker 21: a funeral director that he thought he could trust to

1076
00:52:51,693 --> 00:52:57,733
Speaker 21: look after his wife and family. Basically what happened was

1077
00:52:57,813 --> 00:53:02,453
Speaker 21: that in their grief and with the funeral director knowing

1078
00:53:02,533 --> 00:53:10,133
Speaker 21: that he was the chosen one, he gave quotes and

1079
00:53:10,253 --> 00:53:15,013
Speaker 21: charged around about twenty four thousand dollars for the funeral.

1080
00:53:15,133 --> 00:53:20,013
Speaker 21: Included things like a mahogany casket, which when looking at

1081
00:53:20,013 --> 00:53:24,653
Speaker 21: the casket it was chipboard with a plastic mahogany overlay. Oh,

1082
00:53:25,813 --> 00:53:30,693
Speaker 21: it was things like the in Auckland Council provides live

1083
00:53:30,773 --> 00:53:34,933
Speaker 21: stream of the funeral one way live stream free for nothing.

1084
00:53:36,013 --> 00:53:38,733
Speaker 21: The funeral director wanted five hundred dollars plus GST for

1085
00:53:38,813 --> 00:53:44,453
Speaker 21: that and all sorts of other things. And to be real,

1086
00:53:45,053 --> 00:53:46,732
Speaker 21: I sat down and I caught a couple of other

1087
00:53:46,773 --> 00:53:50,693
Speaker 21: funeral directors that I knew and gave them the exact

1088
00:53:52,013 --> 00:53:54,773
Speaker 21: what was quoted for and the cost came out at

1089
00:53:55,333 --> 00:53:57,573
Speaker 21: in between twelve and twelve and a half thousand dollars

1090
00:53:57,653 --> 00:53:59,293
Speaker 21: for the other two that I talked to.

1091
00:53:59,533 --> 00:53:59,853
Speaker 2: Wow.

1092
00:54:00,053 --> 00:54:04,893
Speaker 21: Fortunately, unfortunately I was not able to change minds because

1093
00:54:05,293 --> 00:54:10,853
Speaker 21: it had already been predetermined via the decease and his

1094
00:54:11,013 --> 00:54:13,973
Speaker 21: wife and his daughter in law who were handling everything,

1095
00:54:14,013 --> 00:54:17,733
Speaker 21: were set by grief and were incredibly taken advantage of

1096
00:54:18,013 --> 00:54:20,693
Speaker 21: by this multinational funeral directing company.

1097
00:54:21,173 --> 00:54:22,973
Speaker 2: When you say, Wayne, that it would all have been

1098
00:54:23,013 --> 00:54:25,573
Speaker 2: decided by the deceased, the decease said that they wanted

1099
00:54:25,613 --> 00:54:27,653
Speaker 2: to go with that funeral country company.

1100
00:54:27,733 --> 00:54:27,853
Speaker 6: Is that?

1101
00:54:28,453 --> 00:54:28,613
Speaker 7: Is that?

1102
00:54:28,773 --> 00:54:29,493
Speaker 2: Am I understanding that?

1103
00:54:29,573 --> 00:54:29,772
Speaker 4: Right?

1104
00:54:30,613 --> 00:54:30,813
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1105
00:54:30,893 --> 00:54:33,613
Speaker 21: Well he wanted to go with a particular funeral director

1106
00:54:33,653 --> 00:54:39,493
Speaker 21: who worked for this particular company, right, And Brice wasn't

1107
00:54:39,533 --> 00:54:42,293
Speaker 21: discussed at that point in time. It was just this

1108
00:54:42,373 --> 00:54:47,213
Speaker 21: is the person who I want to look after my burial,

1109
00:54:47,293 --> 00:54:47,933
Speaker 21: my funeral.

1110
00:54:48,413 --> 00:54:51,173
Speaker 2: That's dirty. So they're using the fact that it's locked

1111
00:54:51,213 --> 00:54:54,613
Speaker 2: in to not be competitive, well basically to ramp up

1112
00:54:54,653 --> 00:54:56,692
Speaker 2: the costs by the sound of the things, because they

1113
00:54:56,693 --> 00:54:59,013
Speaker 2: know it's been decided that there's no options. You're not

1114
00:54:59,053 --> 00:55:01,493
Speaker 2: going to you know, you're not going to shop around,

1115
00:55:02,013 --> 00:55:03,293
Speaker 2: so they've charged more.

1116
00:55:04,253 --> 00:55:04,973
Speaker 14: Yeah, and to.

1117
00:55:05,053 --> 00:55:12,253
Speaker 21: Charge like the aftermatch function was charged out well over

1118
00:55:12,253 --> 00:55:17,773
Speaker 21: one thousand dollars for a round about perhaps two hundred

1119
00:55:17,893 --> 00:55:20,213
Speaker 21: government fift dollars with the food if you bought a

1120
00:55:20,213 --> 00:55:21,093
Speaker 21: Hollywood bakery.

1121
00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:25,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, so did you. So you did you do the

1122
00:55:25,573 --> 00:55:28,253
Speaker 2: investigation and find out that it could be could have

1123
00:55:28,253 --> 00:55:28,773
Speaker 2: been cheaper.

1124
00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:30,652
Speaker 21: Yeah, I did the investigation.

1125
00:55:30,693 --> 00:55:30,933
Speaker 8: Play.

1126
00:55:31,293 --> 00:55:33,812
Speaker 21: I haven't brought it to life within the family because

1127
00:55:33,853 --> 00:55:37,413
Speaker 21: it's just it's a sensitive thing and people have made decisions,

1128
00:55:38,573 --> 00:55:40,652
Speaker 21: and so all I would do is err on the

1129
00:55:40,693 --> 00:55:44,453
Speaker 21: side of caution. Yes, it's a time of grief. It's

1130
00:55:44,533 --> 00:55:49,773
Speaker 21: a terrible time those first few days. But some find

1131
00:55:49,933 --> 00:55:53,013
Speaker 21: someone who is possibly a little bit independent to be

1132
00:55:53,053 --> 00:55:55,413
Speaker 21: able to do some of the groundwork and find out

1133
00:55:55,893 --> 00:55:58,533
Speaker 21: what the best value for money is. And don't lock

1134
00:55:58,573 --> 00:56:01,772
Speaker 21: yourself into a particular person just because you think they're nice.

1135
00:56:02,013 --> 00:56:03,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other thing I mean exactly when you

1136
00:56:04,013 --> 00:56:07,293
Speaker 2: say that, the independent thing is an interesting one because

1137
00:56:08,453 --> 00:56:10,133
Speaker 2: you know you're in that state of grief. So if

1138
00:56:10,133 --> 00:56:12,813
Speaker 2: someone says, do you want something nicer for you for

1139
00:56:12,853 --> 00:56:15,173
Speaker 2: your mum or your dad or a member of your family,

1140
00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:17,413
Speaker 2: then your natural instinct is going to go, yeah, I

1141
00:56:18,013 --> 00:56:20,133
Speaker 2: want to spend that money and you're not going to

1142
00:56:20,133 --> 00:56:22,493
Speaker 2: be scratching the service and see if that's not mahogany

1143
00:56:22,573 --> 00:56:24,813
Speaker 2: right through, You're just you know, you're not in that

1144
00:56:24,853 --> 00:56:25,613
Speaker 2: state of mind.

1145
00:56:26,453 --> 00:56:30,493
Speaker 21: And the other thing is that funeral riches are not independent.

1146
00:56:31,013 --> 00:56:34,172
Speaker 21: You know, they come along and they do it. They

1147
00:56:34,213 --> 00:56:37,013
Speaker 21: perform a function, and they've got the fancy cars and

1148
00:56:37,133 --> 00:56:39,613
Speaker 21: lovely suits and all that sort of stuff, but they

1149
00:56:39,653 --> 00:56:45,652
Speaker 21: are not an independent arbiter of this is how you

1150
00:56:45,693 --> 00:56:48,293
Speaker 21: should run your funeral or what do you really think

1151
00:56:48,413 --> 00:56:51,413
Speaker 21: or what you think is good value for money? Or

1152
00:56:51,613 --> 00:56:55,573
Speaker 21: do you really want to have bells and whistles, five

1153
00:56:55,693 --> 00:56:59,653
Speaker 21: Chadillacs and a choir of heavenly angels.

1154
00:56:59,653 --> 00:57:03,213
Speaker 2: So the twenty four thousand that was spent, the family

1155
00:57:03,293 --> 00:57:06,333
Speaker 2: that spent that money, were they happy with how the

1156
00:57:06,373 --> 00:57:07,573
Speaker 2: funeral went down?

1157
00:57:07,613 --> 00:57:07,853
Speaker 8: There?

1158
00:57:07,853 --> 00:57:10,293
Speaker 2: Not knowing that they sounds like they got ripped off,

1159
00:57:10,293 --> 00:57:12,933
Speaker 2: But not knowing that, were they happy with how everything

1160
00:57:12,973 --> 00:57:13,413
Speaker 2: went through?

1161
00:57:14,253 --> 00:57:16,773
Speaker 21: I think in heart of hearts sounds right.

1162
00:57:17,533 --> 00:57:19,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they sort of had a feeling that they

1163
00:57:19,373 --> 00:57:21,053
Speaker 2: were spending more than they were getting.

1164
00:57:21,813 --> 00:57:25,093
Speaker 21: Yeah, not not a week or two or three ALFs

1165
00:57:25,093 --> 00:57:27,413
Speaker 21: of the event, you know, because that's when things see

1166
00:57:28,093 --> 00:57:29,813
Speaker 21: that's that's when reality sets up.

1167
00:57:29,893 --> 00:57:32,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, when you're looking back, when you've

1168
00:57:32,613 --> 00:57:35,653
Speaker 2: got to write the check. Yeah, one hundred. And on

1169
00:57:35,693 --> 00:57:39,293
Speaker 2: another topic, Wayne, geez, you've got a fantastic voice. Beautiful,

1170
00:57:40,333 --> 00:57:46,893
Speaker 2: thank you. Your voice sounds like mahogany, varnished mahogany. I'd

1171
00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:48,133
Speaker 2: love to get buried in your voice.

1172
00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:50,693
Speaker 3: Wayne, well done.

1173
00:57:52,373 --> 00:57:54,613
Speaker 2: I thank you for your call sharing.

1174
00:57:54,693 --> 00:57:57,933
Speaker 3: It was a very beautiful, deep voice, rich lovely.

1175
00:57:57,933 --> 00:57:58,853
Speaker 2: I wish I had that voice.

1176
00:57:58,933 --> 00:58:01,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, ee hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1177
00:58:01,933 --> 00:58:05,733
Speaker 3: It is pretty much bang on to thirty. Now, hopefully

1178
00:58:05,733 --> 00:58:07,413
Speaker 3: before the end of the hour, we are going to

1179
00:58:07,413 --> 00:58:10,173
Speaker 3: have a check two Jillian Boys. She is the CEO

1180
00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:13,413
Speaker 3: of the Funeral Director's Association, so there's a lot of

1181
00:58:13,493 --> 00:58:15,493
Speaker 3: questions coming through, so hopefully we can put some of

1182
00:58:15,493 --> 00:58:16,453
Speaker 3: those questions to her.

1183
00:58:16,733 --> 00:58:18,973
Speaker 2: It is bang on two thirty.

1184
00:58:21,773 --> 00:58:25,493
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Speaker 15: cuts to government agency spending in next month's budget, to

1190
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Speaker 15: earlier forecast of two point four billion. A construction professor

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1202
00:59:39,893 --> 00:59:41,773
Speaker 15: Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Railean, and we are talking about

1204
00:59:43,893 --> 00:59:46,333
Speaker 3: the cost of saying goodbye to a loved one through

1205
00:59:46,653 --> 00:59:49,773
Speaker 3: funeral service, burial, the whole process. So one hundred and

1206
00:59:49,773 --> 00:59:51,813
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is

1207
00:59:51,853 --> 00:59:53,653
Speaker 3: on the back of a story in the papers today

1208
00:59:53,693 --> 00:59:56,813
Speaker 3: about a bunch of families who appear at the stage

1209
00:59:56,853 --> 00:59:59,853
Speaker 3: to be ripped off after spending thousands on headstones they

1210
00:59:59,933 --> 01:00:03,813
Speaker 3: never receive. So keen to get your stories? What do

1211
01:00:03,853 --> 01:00:06,373
Speaker 3: you need to look out for when going through that process?

1212
01:00:06,973 --> 01:00:09,013
Speaker 3: This Texas heres guys, we bear I read my mum

1213
01:00:09,053 --> 01:00:11,333
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. As a family, we chose a

1214
01:00:11,413 --> 01:00:14,133
Speaker 3: very simple casket, but when all out with the flowers

1215
01:00:14,133 --> 01:00:15,893
Speaker 3: on the top, it looked amazing. My mum would have

1216
01:00:15,973 --> 01:00:16,333
Speaker 3: loved it.

1217
01:00:16,533 --> 01:00:18,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah, I mean the

1218
01:00:18,533 --> 01:00:21,613
Speaker 2: casket doesn't seem that important to me, but the flowers.

1219
01:00:21,933 --> 01:00:23,973
Speaker 2: And look, if you want to save some money, then

1220
01:00:24,013 --> 01:00:26,733
Speaker 2: go and pick flowers from from your own garden or

1221
01:00:27,373 --> 01:00:29,773
Speaker 2: from somewhere that your mum cared about. You don't need

1222
01:00:29,813 --> 01:00:33,053
Speaker 2: to spend millions of dollars on flowers.

1223
01:00:33,133 --> 01:00:36,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, because the flowers are very expective, professional.

1224
01:00:36,453 --> 01:00:38,333
Speaker 2: Flower Yeah that's right. If the funeral directors are charging

1225
01:00:38,333 --> 01:00:39,493
Speaker 2: you are mint for flowers.

1226
01:00:39,573 --> 01:00:40,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, just go to the botanic garden.

1227
01:00:41,173 --> 01:00:42,733
Speaker 2: Get something that's meaningful to your mum.

1228
01:00:42,813 --> 01:00:46,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, how are you ye?

1229
01:00:47,053 --> 01:00:51,093
Speaker 14: Lads? Yeah, I've got a couple of funeral stories that

1230
01:00:51,373 --> 01:00:54,533
Speaker 14: relate to what we're talking about, to be honest, So

1231
01:00:54,573 --> 01:00:56,613
Speaker 14: the first one that you know you need to you

1232
01:00:56,693 --> 01:01:01,413
Speaker 14: do need to look out for charges except to when

1233
01:01:01,413 --> 01:01:04,413
Speaker 14: you get the Well, my son passed away in an

1234
01:01:04,413 --> 01:01:08,253
Speaker 14: accident overseas some years ago, so it was obviously a

1235
01:01:08,453 --> 01:01:12,533
Speaker 14: cost involved and repatriating his body and the cost of

1236
01:01:12,533 --> 01:01:16,333
Speaker 14: the funeral director in Australia, and then we also needed

1237
01:01:16,493 --> 01:01:19,653
Speaker 14: a funeral director here in New Zealand when we got back,

1238
01:01:19,773 --> 01:01:23,773
Speaker 14: and you know, there was some time passed between him

1239
01:01:24,053 --> 01:01:27,133
Speaker 14: dying and then him being repatriated and us being able

1240
01:01:27,173 --> 01:01:29,373
Speaker 14: to have the funeral, so it sort of allowed a

1241
01:01:29,373 --> 01:01:31,933
Speaker 14: little bit of water to go under the bridge when

1242
01:01:31,973 --> 01:01:34,933
Speaker 14: at the time you can appreciate it's very emotional for

1243
01:01:34,973 --> 01:01:39,213
Speaker 14: a family and everything. But when when we received the

1244
01:01:39,293 --> 01:01:44,693
Speaker 14: bill from the New Zealand funeral director, I was probably

1245
01:01:44,733 --> 01:01:47,493
Speaker 14: in a slightly bit of space, and on going through

1246
01:01:47,493 --> 01:01:50,853
Speaker 14: that I realized that we were actually being charged for

1247
01:01:50,973 --> 01:01:55,253
Speaker 14: two full funerals. Like the cost of the funeral director

1248
01:01:55,253 --> 01:01:58,013
Speaker 14: in Australia included all the you know, the embalming and

1249
01:01:58,853 --> 01:02:01,173
Speaker 14: put some pieces of them, had a small service over there,

1250
01:02:01,933 --> 01:02:04,653
Speaker 14: and then of course we got we got double charge

1251
01:02:04,693 --> 01:02:08,213
Speaker 14: for it when he got home, and it was just

1252
01:02:08,493 --> 01:02:10,413
Speaker 14: of hidden away in a service fee if you like.

1253
01:02:10,653 --> 01:02:11,533
Speaker 2: Wow, And.

1254
01:02:13,693 --> 01:02:15,453
Speaker 14: Not to be honest, I can't remember the amount of

1255
01:02:15,453 --> 01:02:18,453
Speaker 14: money I'm being passed away nearly sixteen years ago now,

1256
01:02:18,493 --> 01:02:22,293
Speaker 14: so you know I was, but I did take it

1257
01:02:22,333 --> 01:02:26,013
Speaker 14: back to them, and could you know, I can't criticize

1258
01:02:26,133 --> 01:02:28,813
Speaker 14: the people the people at the funeral director were. They

1259
01:02:28,813 --> 01:02:32,133
Speaker 14: were wonderful, you know they were. They were very good

1260
01:02:32,173 --> 01:02:35,093
Speaker 14: at their jobs. They were very supportive and they made

1261
01:02:35,933 --> 01:02:39,453
Speaker 14: it as easy as possible for us. But when when

1262
01:02:39,453 --> 01:02:42,373
Speaker 14: we looked at the chargers, like I say, they seemed

1263
01:02:42,933 --> 01:02:46,253
Speaker 14: they were slightly more than what it cost us in Australia,

1264
01:02:47,133 --> 01:02:50,053
Speaker 14: and really all they'd done with being crude was it

1265
01:02:50,213 --> 01:02:52,893
Speaker 14: was a TAXI yah them up from the port bring

1266
01:02:52,933 --> 01:02:55,253
Speaker 14: them back home. Well they took them back to the

1267
01:02:55,293 --> 01:02:57,773
Speaker 14: direct funeral director and just checked at it and then

1268
01:02:57,893 --> 01:03:00,653
Speaker 14: then brought them home and then shipped them from there

1269
01:03:00,693 --> 01:03:03,053
Speaker 14: to down to the football club where we had a service.

1270
01:03:03,093 --> 01:03:06,333
Speaker 14: So you know, when I hit them up about it,

1271
01:03:06,333 --> 01:03:09,053
Speaker 14: he was, to be honest, I think was quite taken

1272
01:03:09,093 --> 01:03:13,053
Speaker 14: back and quite embarrassed that someone would actually question So do.

1273
01:03:13,013 --> 01:03:15,013
Speaker 2: You think it was. Do you think it was an

1274
01:03:15,133 --> 01:03:18,133
Speaker 2: era or do you think it was a bit of

1275
01:03:18,173 --> 01:03:18,573
Speaker 2: a shimmy.

1276
01:03:19,773 --> 01:03:23,293
Speaker 14: Well, I mean potentially, I think I'd like to think

1277
01:03:23,333 --> 01:03:26,653
Speaker 14: it was just a standard fee and not much thought

1278
01:03:26,693 --> 01:03:27,533
Speaker 14: had gone into it.

1279
01:03:28,973 --> 01:03:30,693
Speaker 2: But but but that might be the case. But I

1280
01:03:30,733 --> 01:03:33,733
Speaker 2: think when you're burying someone, a lot of thoughts should

1281
01:03:33,733 --> 01:03:36,053
Speaker 2: go into every single part of it. I think it's

1282
01:03:36,053 --> 01:03:39,173
Speaker 2: behooved on the funeral directors to put a huge amount

1283
01:03:39,213 --> 01:03:40,333
Speaker 2: of thought into all of it.

1284
01:03:41,453 --> 01:03:44,693
Speaker 14: Absolutely, And you know, other callers in textative said that

1285
01:03:45,093 --> 01:03:48,853
Speaker 14: it is an extremely emotional time for the family, you know,

1286
01:03:49,413 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 14: and it's you do you do quite you are led

1287
01:03:53,493 --> 01:03:56,573
Speaker 14: by them. So and I guess it was only in

1288
01:03:56,573 --> 01:03:59,893
Speaker 14: this case that you know, obviously in Being's case there

1289
01:03:59,933 --> 01:04:04,453
Speaker 14: was the cost was large because we sort of the circumstances.

1290
01:04:04,533 --> 01:04:08,013
Speaker 14: So that's probably what led me to to look at

1291
01:04:08,053 --> 01:04:10,893
Speaker 14: it and question it. So I think, you know, when

1292
01:04:10,933 --> 01:04:14,133
Speaker 14: you can find space, or if you can even appoint

1293
01:04:14,133 --> 01:04:18,373
Speaker 14: a family friend that maybe you could step back and

1294
01:04:18,493 --> 01:04:21,013
Speaker 14: just look at things. I think it is worthwhile people

1295
01:04:21,733 --> 01:04:24,453
Speaker 14: just having a casting an eye over fer.

1296
01:04:24,813 --> 01:04:26,773
Speaker 2: I that'd be amazing thing if you could do that

1297
01:04:26,853 --> 01:04:29,933
Speaker 2: for a friend, if you could if you could take

1298
01:04:29,973 --> 01:04:32,573
Speaker 2: that off them and say, look, I'm going to be

1299
01:04:32,613 --> 01:04:35,213
Speaker 2: a little bit independent here. You know, I care, but

1300
01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:38,013
Speaker 2: I'm not in the same incredible level of grief that

1301
01:04:38,053 --> 01:04:40,413
Speaker 2: you are. On the step up and be that person

1302
01:04:40,453 --> 01:04:41,773
Speaker 2: for you. I mean, that would be about one of

1303
01:04:41,813 --> 01:04:43,693
Speaker 2: the nicest things you could do for someone that's going

1304
01:04:43,773 --> 01:04:44,533
Speaker 2: through a time there.

1305
01:04:45,973 --> 01:04:46,533
Speaker 13: Yeah, it would be.

1306
01:04:47,053 --> 01:04:49,613
Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, I've got a few funeral stories actually

1307
01:04:49,693 --> 01:04:52,413
Speaker 14: seems to be my life, but just on a quick one,

1308
01:04:52,813 --> 01:04:55,533
Speaker 14: I sort of stepped in and did the funeral service

1309
01:04:55,573 --> 01:04:58,253
Speaker 14: for a friend his mother when she passed away. Because

1310
01:04:58,413 --> 01:05:00,933
Speaker 14: you know, that's another thing people can look at it.

1311
01:05:00,933 --> 01:05:03,693
Speaker 14: It's like, well, you pay a celebrant that doesn't even

1312
01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:06,973
Speaker 14: know the person, and then they stand up and they

1313
01:05:07,093 --> 01:05:10,893
Speaker 14: just spelled off few facts that you've given them in

1314
01:05:11,093 --> 01:05:13,333
Speaker 14: your moment of grief and they don't really know the person.

1315
01:05:13,413 --> 01:05:17,253
Speaker 14: So I took it upon myself to do this for

1316
01:05:18,093 --> 01:05:21,293
Speaker 14: my friend's mother I love very much. So that's something

1317
01:05:21,293 --> 01:05:24,093
Speaker 14: else for people could look at. But my other story

1318
01:05:24,173 --> 01:05:28,333
Speaker 14: that I could touch on ruefully is planning a funeral

1319
01:05:28,373 --> 01:05:32,173
Speaker 14: which happens to be my own coming up sometime this year,

1320
01:05:33,493 --> 01:05:39,333
Speaker 14: and my wife and I We've talked quite extensively about it,

1321
01:05:39,373 --> 01:05:43,373
Speaker 14: and you know, to be honest, funerals not really for me.

1322
01:05:43,653 --> 01:05:49,093
Speaker 14: I don't really care. I won't be there. It's for

1323
01:05:49,333 --> 01:05:54,133
Speaker 14: people you're leaving behind. And we've decided that basically, when

1324
01:05:54,173 --> 01:05:58,253
Speaker 14: I do pass eventually, I would just go and get cremated,

1325
01:05:58,253 --> 01:06:03,373
Speaker 14: whether or not we make a coffin ourselves for me or.

1326
01:06:04,853 --> 01:06:05,013
Speaker 7: Look.

1327
01:06:05,053 --> 01:06:07,973
Speaker 14: To be honest, I've said, I'm quite happy to go

1328
01:06:08,133 --> 01:06:12,013
Speaker 14: up to the straight from home in a body bear,

1329
01:06:12,133 --> 01:06:16,173
Speaker 14: basically to the crematorium, get cremated, and then we have

1330
01:06:16,253 --> 01:06:20,293
Speaker 14: a memorial service a few days later. And so you know,

1331
01:06:20,333 --> 01:06:23,773
Speaker 14: we've been discussing that what time frame do you do?

1332
01:06:23,773 --> 01:06:26,533
Speaker 14: Do you know, you have, you have the cremation, then

1333
01:06:26,573 --> 01:06:29,773
Speaker 14: do you have a memorial service within a few days

1334
01:06:29,853 --> 01:06:33,293
Speaker 14: or do you wait a month or a year? And

1335
01:06:33,293 --> 01:06:36,613
Speaker 14: and my feeling on that is that, well, grieving process

1336
01:06:36,653 --> 01:06:39,693
Speaker 14: doesn't really start until everybody's had that chance to have

1337
01:06:40,333 --> 01:06:43,813
Speaker 14: an aftermatch and a few drinks and you know, make

1338
01:06:43,933 --> 01:06:48,333
Speaker 14: up stories about me that strictly won't be true. So

1339
01:06:49,533 --> 01:06:51,733
Speaker 14: we you know, we think maybe a week or something

1340
01:06:51,773 --> 01:06:54,413
Speaker 14: like that is probably a time and that that just

1341
01:06:54,493 --> 01:06:58,693
Speaker 14: allows everyone to start to you know, move on with

1342
01:06:58,893 --> 01:07:03,133
Speaker 14: their lives and grief in a proper way. So those

1343
01:07:03,133 --> 01:07:06,333
Speaker 14: are my thoughts on and cost wise too. I mean,

1344
01:07:07,693 --> 01:07:11,253
Speaker 14: you know, we don't there's no need for us to

1345
01:07:11,253 --> 01:07:14,733
Speaker 14: spend ten to twelve fifteen thousand dollars or whatever it's

1346
01:07:14,773 --> 01:07:18,573
Speaker 14: going to be on a funeral when essentially we just

1347
01:07:18,653 --> 01:07:21,373
Speaker 14: need to you know, get a sign off from a

1348
01:07:21,413 --> 01:07:27,893
Speaker 14: medical professional that I'm actually dead, and in the cremation fees,

1349
01:07:28,733 --> 01:07:30,933
Speaker 14: there's not too much more than that involved.

1350
01:07:31,133 --> 01:07:34,813
Speaker 2: So, Tom, if I understand this correctly, you're saying that

1351
01:07:35,253 --> 01:07:38,533
Speaker 2: you expect to pass in the next year.

1352
01:07:39,653 --> 01:07:39,933
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1353
01:07:40,013 --> 01:07:43,413
Speaker 14: Yeah, I've got well, you know, cancer that kills everybody,

1354
01:07:43,493 --> 01:07:46,853
Speaker 14: terminal cancer, so they've sort of given me not much

1355
01:07:46,893 --> 01:07:48,613
Speaker 14: beyond the end of the year, but that that's you know,

1356
01:07:48,773 --> 01:07:53,813
Speaker 14: a whole story. But yeah, so it does you sort

1357
01:07:53,813 --> 01:07:56,053
Speaker 14: of plan these things, and we've we've so it's been

1358
01:07:56,133 --> 01:08:01,093
Speaker 14: quite topical in our house about what is the plan

1359
01:08:01,573 --> 01:08:04,893
Speaker 14: because it's something that people don't really like to talk about.

1360
01:08:08,573 --> 01:08:10,973
Speaker 2: I imagine it's I mean imagine it's hard for you

1361
01:08:11,013 --> 01:08:13,813
Speaker 2: to talk about with them, but very hard for the

1362
01:08:13,853 --> 01:08:15,973
Speaker 2: people that love you to discuss it with you.

1363
01:08:17,253 --> 01:08:17,652
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1364
01:08:17,773 --> 01:08:21,053
Speaker 14: Yeah, I kind of a lit a bit of a

1365
01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:25,093
Speaker 14: weird see Sushuma. So so I can't and stuff about it,

1366
01:08:25,133 --> 01:08:30,892
Speaker 14: but you know, it's we We actually found these books online,

1367
01:08:30,933 --> 01:08:33,852
Speaker 14: my wife did, and they're called When I Die, and

1368
01:08:34,612 --> 01:08:37,173
Speaker 14: it's I would encourage most people to actually have a

1369
01:08:37,253 --> 01:08:39,492
Speaker 14: think about it and you just actually go through this.

1370
01:08:39,612 --> 01:08:42,173
Speaker 14: It's not your will, but it's things that you want

1371
01:08:42,213 --> 01:08:45,772
Speaker 14: to happen when you die. Do you want to be cremated?

1372
01:08:46,893 --> 01:08:47,133
Speaker 7: You know?

1373
01:08:47,293 --> 01:08:49,173
Speaker 14: Do you want to leave your favorite fishing rod to

1374
01:08:49,213 --> 01:08:52,253
Speaker 14: your best mate or do you think he'll just break

1375
01:08:52,293 --> 01:08:55,213
Speaker 14: it because he's a useful fisherman And all my mates

1376
01:08:55,253 --> 01:08:58,213
Speaker 14: will be listening to this anyway, so you know, it's

1377
01:08:58,853 --> 01:09:01,253
Speaker 14: lots of things like that, and just who you think

1378
01:09:01,293 --> 01:09:03,493
Speaker 14: should be, you know, who you would like to be contacted.

1379
01:09:04,452 --> 01:09:06,652
Speaker 14: There's a few pages of different things. But you know,

1380
01:09:06,812 --> 01:09:11,492
Speaker 14: pulling out a book like that actually takes away some

1381
01:09:11,612 --> 01:09:14,093
Speaker 14: of the fear of dying, I think, right that makes it.

1382
01:09:14,372 --> 01:09:17,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, it's hard for me, hard to comprehend

1383
01:09:17,973 --> 01:09:20,652
Speaker 2: if you're not in the position that you're in, but

1384
01:09:20,692 --> 01:09:23,892
Speaker 2: that that seems to make sense to me, and from

1385
01:09:23,973 --> 01:09:26,772
Speaker 2: your perspective when you say about the cost of the funeral,

1386
01:09:27,772 --> 01:09:30,173
Speaker 2: when you say you don't want it to cost a lot.

1387
01:09:30,293 --> 01:09:33,133
Speaker 2: Is that because you'd rather money be spent on the

1388
01:09:33,173 --> 01:09:35,253
Speaker 2: people that are that your loved ones?

1389
01:09:35,893 --> 01:09:36,253
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1390
01:09:36,372 --> 01:09:40,652
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'd rather you know that money was just yeah

1391
01:09:41,053 --> 01:09:45,052
Speaker 14: to me, it's like I said that the funerals about

1392
01:09:45,372 --> 01:09:48,452
Speaker 14: the people you leave behind, so why why put a

1393
01:09:48,532 --> 01:09:52,532
Speaker 14: debt on them? That's my opinion, you know, but on

1394
01:09:53,372 --> 01:09:57,293
Speaker 14: with my opinions on some things, as my friends and tailer. Yeah,

1395
01:09:56,933 --> 01:09:59,732
Speaker 14: I just feel that, you know, let's just call it

1396
01:09:59,772 --> 01:10:02,372
Speaker 14: twelve grand is what they're saying. And you know that

1397
01:10:02,452 --> 01:10:06,293
Speaker 14: twelve grand it could be you know, I don't know,

1398
01:10:06,293 --> 01:10:08,573
Speaker 14: it's a chunk off the mortgage off, a debt of

1399
01:10:08,572 --> 01:10:11,612
Speaker 14: off anything. You know, it's it might be a you know,

1400
01:10:12,492 --> 01:10:14,532
Speaker 14: my wife and I love to travel, so maybe it's

1401
01:10:14,532 --> 01:10:17,532
Speaker 14: a when she's feeling up to it. It's it's a

1402
01:10:17,612 --> 01:10:20,293
Speaker 14: cost of a small trip overseas for you or something.

1403
01:10:20,893 --> 01:10:23,093
Speaker 14: So I mean it's you know that she enjoys that

1404
01:10:23,372 --> 01:10:29,092
Speaker 14: memory some places we've been. I just feel that money

1405
01:10:29,093 --> 01:10:33,692
Speaker 14: better spent than spending it all on on I've never

1406
01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:36,652
Speaker 14: got the embalming thing, to be honest, because it's like, well,

1407
01:10:36,812 --> 01:10:39,412
Speaker 14: why my spending is money to make me last longer?

1408
01:10:39,452 --> 01:10:41,652
Speaker 14: When you're going to stick me in the ground or

1409
01:10:41,652 --> 01:10:46,013
Speaker 14: burn me anyway. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's a

1410
01:10:46,013 --> 01:10:47,692
Speaker 14: bit of a harsh way of looking at it, but

1411
01:10:47,732 --> 01:10:50,213
Speaker 14: that's that's that's the way we feel about it.

1412
01:10:50,652 --> 01:10:53,492
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Tom, you're obviously a very, very good, in

1413
01:10:53,692 --> 01:10:56,852
Speaker 2: caring man, and I'm very touched to have talked to

1414
01:10:56,853 --> 01:10:59,093
Speaker 2: you about this and and thank you so much for

1415
01:10:59,333 --> 01:11:02,492
Speaker 2: for bringing in and sharing that because look, that's an

1416
01:11:02,492 --> 01:11:04,692
Speaker 2: incredible insight and really appreciate that time.

1417
01:11:05,412 --> 01:11:07,772
Speaker 14: Oh, it's no problem, mat because usually I'm just at

1418
01:11:07,812 --> 01:11:09,612
Speaker 14: the other end of the radio swearing it.

1419
01:11:09,692 --> 01:11:13,093
Speaker 3: You've got yeah, keep doing that, Tom, keep doing that.

1420
01:11:13,293 --> 01:11:17,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you for a good day to mate.

1421
01:11:17,053 --> 01:11:21,612
Speaker 3: You too. Incredible call, I mean very yeah. What a position.

1422
01:11:22,452 --> 01:11:24,492
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1423
01:11:24,532 --> 01:11:26,772
Speaker 3: call back very shortly. It is quarter to three.

1424
01:11:28,372 --> 01:11:31,732
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

1425
01:11:31,772 --> 01:11:35,213
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

1426
01:11:35,213 --> 01:11:37,932
Speaker 3: That'd be good afternoon. It is thirteen two three.

1427
01:11:38,333 --> 01:11:40,612
Speaker 2: So many texts coming through after Tom's call. Tom, what

1428
01:11:40,652 --> 01:11:42,732
Speaker 2: a pillar of strength, legend, no dabt He'll make the

1429
01:11:42,732 --> 01:11:45,852
Speaker 2: most of his remaining time left. What a true champion

1430
01:11:45,893 --> 01:11:49,012
Speaker 2: here has props to Tom, go well mate, bless you Tom.

1431
01:11:49,093 --> 01:11:52,173
Speaker 2: What a lovely man you are. From David absolutely, so

1432
01:11:52,213 --> 01:11:55,053
Speaker 2: many teas coming through. What a great incredible to get

1433
01:11:55,093 --> 01:11:55,732
Speaker 2: to check Tom.

1434
01:11:55,853 --> 01:11:59,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Aj, how are you this afternoon?

1435
01:11:59,973 --> 01:12:03,732
Speaker 10: Hi, I'm good saying So I've listen to that call Tom.

1436
01:12:04,053 --> 01:12:08,172
Speaker 10: It's yeah, it's a big call to follow us on.

1437
01:12:07,853 --> 01:12:14,492
Speaker 10: But yes, so coming getting into it, Yeah, I had

1438
01:12:14,492 --> 01:12:20,133
Speaker 10: to take care of my brother funeral. He passed unexpectedly

1439
01:12:20,173 --> 01:12:24,852
Speaker 10: about six years ago, and that's my first experience with

1440
01:12:25,053 --> 01:12:30,213
Speaker 10: having to actually organize it, organize it all, and ours

1441
01:12:30,293 --> 01:12:33,293
Speaker 10: was a very good experience. Actually, funeral director that we

1442
01:12:33,412 --> 01:12:37,972
Speaker 10: dout with was amazing. But it all came crashing because

1443
01:12:38,253 --> 01:12:41,012
Speaker 10: he passed early hours of the morning. We were told

1444
01:12:41,053 --> 01:12:44,293
Speaker 10: by the hospital that he needs to be out somewhere,

1445
01:12:46,133 --> 01:12:48,492
Speaker 10: so I set the alarm to get you know, three

1446
01:12:48,532 --> 01:12:51,972
Speaker 10: hours sleep by six o'clock and then trying to bring around.

1447
01:12:52,053 --> 01:12:54,013
Speaker 10: We were in a place out of Watford, so we

1448
01:12:54,053 --> 01:12:57,213
Speaker 10: went from there. He'd lived there with one other brother,

1449
01:12:57,652 --> 01:13:01,812
Speaker 10: so they wanted wanted it all to happen there, and yeah,

1450
01:13:01,812 --> 01:13:05,572
Speaker 10: we got it done and the funeral. Part of that,

1451
01:13:05,612 --> 01:13:08,052
Speaker 10: we doubt works. They were amazing and they were brilliant.

1452
01:13:08,853 --> 01:13:11,452
Speaker 10: But it was quite easy. Like the lady said about

1453
01:13:11,452 --> 01:13:13,772
Speaker 10: the hospital, I just made a phone call. I didn't

1454
01:13:13,812 --> 01:13:16,692
Speaker 10: have to fill in any paperwork or do anything. I

1455
01:13:16,812 --> 01:13:21,613
Speaker 10: just rung up a few people very quickly, three altogether,

1456
01:13:21,772 --> 01:13:23,812
Speaker 10: got a feel for one, wrung them up and all

1457
01:13:23,853 --> 01:13:26,692
Speaker 10: I had to say was my brother's here, can you

1458
01:13:26,732 --> 01:13:27,253
Speaker 10: collect him?

1459
01:13:27,812 --> 01:13:28,572
Speaker 18: And they did it all.

1460
01:13:29,853 --> 01:13:32,213
Speaker 10: And I couldn't be more grateful. And there are some

1461
01:13:32,372 --> 01:13:35,532
Speaker 10: amazing organizations out there, and the job that they do

1462
01:13:36,213 --> 01:13:36,973
Speaker 10: is incredible.

1463
01:13:37,053 --> 01:13:38,852
Speaker 22: I mean, it's a gift, it's a corn.

1464
01:13:39,133 --> 01:13:41,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important. Thank you for thank you for bring

1465
01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:42,972
Speaker 2: up and saying that, because that is the important because

1466
01:13:42,973 --> 01:13:44,892
Speaker 2: we are looking at some of the edge cases. But

1467
01:13:45,053 --> 01:13:46,812
Speaker 2: you know, in the industry there are people that do

1468
01:13:46,933 --> 01:13:51,092
Speaker 2: wonderful things that help people in a difficult time. Absolutely, yeah,

1469
01:13:51,133 --> 01:13:51,612
Speaker 2: And it.

1470
01:13:51,492 --> 01:13:54,892
Speaker 10: Was but your hits of it, and suddenly money becomes

1471
01:13:54,893 --> 01:13:58,293
Speaker 10: a factor. Cost you lose someone and suddenly you're dealing

1472
01:13:58,333 --> 01:14:01,892
Speaker 10: with the hard, cold reality of what a funeral is about.

1473
01:14:02,013 --> 01:14:03,132
Speaker 14: And it starts with costs.

1474
01:14:03,253 --> 01:14:04,973
Speaker 8: Like Kennan Ford, what do I have?

1475
01:14:05,652 --> 01:14:06,492
Speaker 19: Do they have anything?

1476
01:14:07,572 --> 01:14:10,133
Speaker 10: And all I'd say, after everything happened, and it did

1477
01:14:10,213 --> 01:14:13,612
Speaker 10: go beautifully and they're amazing. Is that After that, I

1478
01:14:13,652 --> 01:14:16,693
Speaker 10: said to my family, if you haven't got life insurance

1479
01:14:16,812 --> 01:14:20,372
Speaker 10: or funeral insurance, or your parents don't have funeral insurance,

1480
01:14:20,492 --> 01:14:22,372
Speaker 10: can't afford that, you need to make sure.

1481
01:14:22,253 --> 01:14:22,812
Speaker 12: That they do.

1482
01:14:23,612 --> 01:14:28,692
Speaker 10: And my brother passed, Fortunately he had kiwisaver and that

1483
01:14:28,772 --> 01:14:31,213
Speaker 10: particular fund that he was with. You were able to

1484
01:14:31,893 --> 01:14:35,812
Speaker 10: claim expenses from his QI Saber fund. There wasn't a

1485
01:14:35,812 --> 01:14:39,932
Speaker 10: lot of paperwork, so it's very easy. But then if

1486
01:14:39,973 --> 01:14:41,892
Speaker 10: he hadn't had that, then that would have been left

1487
01:14:41,933 --> 01:14:44,173
Speaker 10: to two of us and our family. That cost would

1488
01:14:44,173 --> 01:14:48,293
Speaker 10: have been ours to carry and we were so you know,

1489
01:14:48,293 --> 01:14:51,892
Speaker 10: I said, I'm ready to think about the details of

1490
01:14:51,973 --> 01:14:55,012
Speaker 10: leaving up to his passing, but you know.

1491
01:14:54,933 --> 01:14:55,372
Speaker 14: You have to.

1492
01:14:56,013 --> 01:14:58,732
Speaker 10: You have to deal with that. So always people, is

1493
01:14:58,772 --> 01:15:01,572
Speaker 10: that make it easier on the people you leave behind

1494
01:15:02,372 --> 01:15:06,972
Speaker 10: by having life insurance, but even having funeral insurance, making

1495
01:15:07,013 --> 01:15:09,612
Speaker 10: sure someone can act there if they don't have the funds,

1496
01:15:09,612 --> 01:15:13,053
Speaker 10: because you are left with dealing with the reality of

1497
01:15:13,093 --> 01:15:16,572
Speaker 10: what death brings afterwards.

1498
01:15:16,772 --> 01:15:21,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, thank you so much. Aj.

1499
01:15:22,173 --> 01:15:24,692
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for your lost and thank you for sharing

1500
01:15:24,692 --> 01:15:25,652
Speaker 2: your insights on that.

1501
01:15:25,772 --> 01:15:28,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, beautifully said. Right coming up after the break, we're

1502
01:15:28,372 --> 01:15:30,732
Speaker 3: going to have a chat with Jillian Boys, who's the

1503
01:15:30,772 --> 01:15:34,293
Speaker 3: CEO of the Funeral Director's Association. It is nine minutes to.

1504
01:15:34,253 --> 01:15:38,133
Speaker 1: Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of

1505
01:15:38,173 --> 01:15:41,492
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

1506
01:15:41,692 --> 01:15:42,653
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1507
01:15:42,372 --> 01:15:42,772
Speaker 6: They'd be.

1508
01:15:44,372 --> 01:15:44,452
Speaker 15: So.

1509
01:15:44,572 --> 01:15:47,532
Speaker 3: Joining us now is Jillian Boys, CEO of the Funeral

1510
01:15:47,572 --> 01:15:52,652
Speaker 3: Director's Association. Very good afternoon, Jillian, Gooday, how are you good.

1511
01:15:53,133 --> 01:15:56,492
Speaker 2: So we're talking about some unfortunate experiences that people have

1512
01:15:56,532 --> 01:16:00,452
Speaker 2: had in this realm. If you think you're being ripped off,

1513
01:16:00,492 --> 01:16:01,772
Speaker 2: what should you do?

1514
01:16:03,053 --> 01:16:06,653
Speaker 22: Okay, Well, look, we run so with a Centeral Directors Association.

1515
01:16:06,692 --> 01:16:08,652
Speaker 22: We cover about seventy five percent of the in our

1516
01:16:08,652 --> 01:16:13,052
Speaker 22: homes in New Zealand, and we run the only funeral

1517
01:16:13,093 --> 01:16:16,893
Speaker 22: complaints service in New Zealand so that the industry is

1518
01:16:16,933 --> 01:16:21,693
Speaker 22: not regulated. So our association sets standards and has ethics

1519
01:16:21,853 --> 01:16:25,612
Speaker 22: and requires our members to meet all of those and

1520
01:16:25,692 --> 01:16:27,892
Speaker 22: if there is a problem with a funeral from a

1521
01:16:27,933 --> 01:16:30,293
Speaker 22: member firm, then we can investigate that and then we

1522
01:16:30,333 --> 01:16:34,732
Speaker 22: can take some action if necessary. So that service is

1523
01:16:34,772 --> 01:16:37,973
Speaker 22: available in certainly, we'd encourage people to contact us if

1524
01:16:38,013 --> 01:16:39,812
Speaker 22: they do feel like they've had a problem with a

1525
01:16:39,893 --> 01:16:40,452
Speaker 22: funeral home.

1526
01:16:40,572 --> 01:16:41,092
Speaker 2: That's great.

1527
01:16:41,133 --> 01:16:43,652
Speaker 3: There's a few questions coming through on our text machine, Jillian.

1528
01:16:43,732 --> 01:16:46,852
Speaker 3: This person asked, is there a legal requirement to have

1529
01:16:46,933 --> 01:16:48,092
Speaker 3: a casket at a funeral?

1530
01:16:49,372 --> 01:16:52,212
Speaker 22: It's not a legal requirement. It's often a council requirement.

1531
01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:58,293
Speaker 22: So you need a vessel that can put the deceased

1532
01:16:58,372 --> 01:17:02,492
Speaker 22: body into the cremator or to I think it may

1533
01:17:02,532 --> 01:17:07,333
Speaker 22: be legal for burial, but yeah, certainly you've got to

1534
01:17:07,333 --> 01:17:11,572
Speaker 22: think about hygiene and health and security and health and safety,

1535
01:17:11,612 --> 01:17:14,692
Speaker 22: and those sorts of things are will dictate often that

1536
01:17:14,812 --> 01:17:16,293
Speaker 22: most people will have a casket.

1537
01:17:17,173 --> 01:17:21,413
Speaker 2: Hey, dylanne are the rules against funeral directors using emotional

1538
01:17:21,452 --> 01:17:25,093
Speaker 2: blackmail to upsell? Is there a code of conduct around that?

1539
01:17:25,933 --> 01:17:29,173
Speaker 22: Yes, if you belong to our association, there is, And

1540
01:17:29,572 --> 01:17:33,053
Speaker 22: you know, some funeral homes don't belong to us, And

1541
01:17:33,293 --> 01:17:35,293
Speaker 22: we have seen a lot of negative stories in the

1542
01:17:35,293 --> 01:17:41,972
Speaker 22: media recently, and utuately, I think you've mentioned the Headstones

1543
01:17:42,053 --> 01:17:45,412
Speaker 22: guy as well, you know, not a member firm, and

1544
01:17:45,893 --> 01:17:48,013
Speaker 22: we're really disappointed to hear those stories because we don't

1545
01:17:48,053 --> 01:17:50,213
Speaker 22: want to have the industry cast in a bad light.

1546
01:17:50,372 --> 01:17:53,652
Speaker 2: But how do people know if how do they people know?

1547
01:17:53,772 --> 01:17:55,532
Speaker 2: How do you know if someone as a member.

1548
01:17:56,612 --> 01:17:58,652
Speaker 22: We have a list of all our member firms on

1549
01:17:58,652 --> 01:18:01,932
Speaker 22: our website, so we'd really encourage people when they're choosing,

1550
01:18:01,973 --> 01:18:03,933
Speaker 22: if you're not home, to come to our website and

1551
01:18:04,293 --> 01:18:07,333
Speaker 22: choose a member firm, just for that assurance that they've

1552
01:18:07,333 --> 01:18:08,892
Speaker 22: got some backup in case something.

1553
01:18:08,692 --> 01:18:09,293
Speaker 14: Does go wrong.

1554
01:18:09,412 --> 01:18:11,572
Speaker 3: Jillian, thank you very much for coming on the show.

1555
01:18:11,612 --> 01:18:13,612
Speaker 3: Really appreciate your time. We're going to carry this on

1556
01:18:13,732 --> 01:18:17,213
Speaker 3: after three o'clock, So keen on your stories. What do

1557
01:18:17,253 --> 01:18:18,973
Speaker 3: you need to look out for when planning for a

1558
01:18:19,013 --> 01:18:21,213
Speaker 3: funeral or a burial for someone that you love? What

1559
01:18:21,293 --> 01:18:23,852
Speaker 3: did you come up against love? To hear your story

1560
01:18:23,893 --> 01:18:26,612
Speaker 3: on our eight hundred eighty ten eighty new Sport and

1561
01:18:26,612 --> 01:18:28,492
Speaker 3: Weather on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

1562
01:18:28,732 --> 01:18:29,772
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you.

1563
01:18:32,053 --> 01:18:38,852
Speaker 1: Now your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's

1564
01:18:38,893 --> 01:18:42,572
Speaker 1: Mattia and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1565
01:18:42,692 --> 01:18:46,532
Speaker 3: Sebby, Good afternoon to you. It is Seevin past three

1566
01:18:46,572 --> 01:18:48,253
Speaker 3: and we're going to carry on the discussion we've been

1567
01:18:48,293 --> 01:18:51,692
Speaker 3: having about the costs of funerals, of burials, of that

1568
01:18:51,853 --> 01:18:55,253
Speaker 3: whole process. Some incredible stories coming through, and we want

1569
01:18:55,253 --> 01:18:57,772
Speaker 3: to hear yours on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1570
01:18:57,933 --> 01:19:00,052
Speaker 2: I'm still a bit emotional after that call from Tom.

1571
01:19:00,093 --> 01:19:02,253
Speaker 2: He's just texted back. Actually I'll read that out in

1572
01:19:03,013 --> 01:19:05,652
Speaker 2: a minute. But after that, once we've gone through this

1573
01:19:05,652 --> 01:19:10,132
Speaker 2: funeral call, this funeral chat, we'll go to something very vacuous,

1574
01:19:10,333 --> 01:19:12,652
Speaker 2: which is the TV shows that you judge people for.

1575
01:19:12,933 --> 01:19:16,692
Speaker 3: Yes, comfort viewing. But there's a great article on the Heralds,

1576
01:19:16,692 --> 01:19:18,133
Speaker 3: so we're going to get to that. Just after three

1577
01:19:18,133 --> 01:19:18,893
Speaker 3: point thirty.

1578
01:19:19,053 --> 01:19:21,492
Speaker 2: Rob says, the lordship allowed burial in the backyard under

1579
01:19:21,492 --> 01:19:24,053
Speaker 2: the old old tree. Like the old days. You can

1580
01:19:24,732 --> 01:19:27,013
Speaker 2: organize some burials like that. I was, as I was

1581
01:19:27,053 --> 01:19:31,372
Speaker 2: saying yesterday, I was at the Deep Creek Railway Deep

1582
01:19:31,412 --> 01:19:34,652
Speaker 2: Creek rail and I've forgot it with in Crimnal Town

1583
01:19:35,572 --> 01:19:39,892
Speaker 2: and when you're on the on the railway there's old

1584
01:19:39,933 --> 01:19:45,652
Speaker 2: Barry Bricknell. He's buried there. So he's buried on his

1585
01:19:45,732 --> 01:19:49,692
Speaker 2: property and he built the grave for himself before he

1586
01:19:49,772 --> 01:19:52,972
Speaker 2: died and the cross to put on top of it. Yeah,

1587
01:19:53,013 --> 01:19:55,492
Speaker 2: it's quite touching when you drive past, because you've been

1588
01:19:55,532 --> 01:19:57,772
Speaker 2: on that railway. When I talked about this, the Driving

1589
01:19:57,812 --> 01:20:01,133
Speaker 2: Creek railway, I'm an idiot. Fantastic railway that was built

1590
01:20:01,173 --> 01:20:03,932
Speaker 2: by a man, a potter, and he built all the

1591
01:20:03,973 --> 01:20:06,852
Speaker 2: aqueducts and the tunnels and you can ride on that railway.

1592
01:20:06,933 --> 01:20:10,053
Speaker 3: I saw the website, looked and cred. Yeah, absolute great

1593
01:20:10,093 --> 01:20:10,532
Speaker 3: New Zealand.

1594
01:20:10,572 --> 01:20:13,173
Speaker 2: It's pretty touching. So you've been riding on. It's hard work,

1595
01:20:13,293 --> 01:20:16,933
Speaker 2: like thirty years of just making this railway and building

1596
01:20:17,612 --> 01:20:20,253
Speaker 2: the bridges you go across in the tunnels and you know,

1597
01:20:20,372 --> 01:20:23,892
Speaker 2: bending it out of girders. And then at the end

1598
01:20:23,973 --> 01:20:26,412
Speaker 2: when you come back, you drive past his your two

1599
01:20:26,492 --> 01:20:29,053
Speaker 2: tube pastas is great and give them a bit of

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01:20:29,093 --> 01:20:29,612
Speaker 2: a cure to.

1601
01:20:29,572 --> 01:20:33,612
Speaker 3: Give them a salute. Yeah, Thelma, you want to have

1602
01:20:33,612 --> 01:20:35,412
Speaker 3: a chat about burial costs.

1603
01:20:36,412 --> 01:20:40,333
Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, I've been listening to your show for a

1604
01:20:40,372 --> 01:20:43,693
Speaker 11: while and I understand. Yeah, a funeral cost is so expensive.

1605
01:20:44,692 --> 01:20:49,492
Speaker 11: In twenty sixteen we lost my mum and luckily my

1606
01:20:49,612 --> 01:20:52,133
Speaker 11: dad obviously did have the money there, but I was

1607
01:20:52,213 --> 01:20:55,772
Speaker 11: just flabbergasted at the expense of it all.

1608
01:20:56,612 --> 01:20:58,093
Speaker 2: And how much did it cost In the end.

1609
01:20:58,133 --> 01:21:01,452
Speaker 11: Selma it costs my dad over twelve thousands.

1610
01:21:01,772 --> 01:21:02,012
Speaker 8: Wow.

1611
01:21:02,933 --> 01:21:05,852
Speaker 11: Well, but bear in mind my dad did also do

1612
01:21:05,933 --> 01:21:11,013
Speaker 11: a double plot, so when my dad passes, he will

1613
01:21:11,053 --> 01:21:15,652
Speaker 11: be buried on top of mum. But yeah, just when

1614
01:21:15,652 --> 01:21:18,492
Speaker 11: you're grieving and you've lost someone, you don't really think

1615
01:21:18,652 --> 01:21:20,372
Speaker 11: about it.

1616
01:21:20,532 --> 01:21:20,892
Speaker 23: You don't.

1617
01:21:21,772 --> 01:21:25,052
Speaker 11: And luckily we had my cousin sort of took over

1618
01:21:25,253 --> 01:21:27,572
Speaker 11: a lot of that for us, and we ended up

1619
01:21:27,772 --> 01:21:31,173
Speaker 11: going with Tippany Funeral Directors and I have to say

1620
01:21:31,173 --> 01:21:34,532
Speaker 11: they were awesome, they were great, but I just thought

1621
01:21:34,812 --> 01:21:38,172
Speaker 11: the expense of it. When we got the bill, it's like, wow, wow,

1622
01:21:38,452 --> 01:21:40,253
Speaker 11: really and were you?

1623
01:21:40,293 --> 01:21:42,133
Speaker 2: Were you? So you said you were happy with it?

1624
01:21:42,133 --> 01:21:42,333
Speaker 7: Though?

1625
01:21:42,412 --> 01:21:43,692
Speaker 2: Do you think there is another?

1626
01:21:44,612 --> 01:21:49,372
Speaker 11: But I just think that funerals myself, and because I've

1627
01:21:49,412 --> 01:21:52,653
Speaker 11: seen a lot of my family members over the decades

1628
01:21:52,772 --> 01:21:55,812
Speaker 11: when we've had funerals, we've always had the fundraise because

1629
01:21:55,853 --> 01:21:58,813
Speaker 11: we simply didn't have the money there to cover them,

1630
01:21:59,173 --> 01:22:03,372
Speaker 11: and that's quite stressful. And so seeing all of that,

1631
01:22:04,412 --> 01:22:07,333
Speaker 11: I have decided when I pass, it's going to be

1632
01:22:07,372 --> 01:22:09,013
Speaker 11: as basic as I can make it.

1633
01:22:09,973 --> 01:22:11,532
Speaker 2: So you're going to you're going to put that in

1634
01:22:11,612 --> 01:22:14,133
Speaker 2: your will or you're just going to say it around

1635
01:22:14,173 --> 01:22:14,572
Speaker 2: the family.

1636
01:22:15,412 --> 01:22:18,732
Speaker 11: Yes, no, I've really told my family long. I've got

1637
01:22:18,772 --> 01:22:21,372
Speaker 11: a long way probably to go, but this is what

1638
01:22:21,412 --> 01:22:23,293
Speaker 11: I want and this is how I want to go

1639
01:22:23,372 --> 01:22:24,372
Speaker 11: out on my tombs.

1640
01:22:25,093 --> 01:22:28,612
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I'm exactly the same as youth, Alma.

1641
01:22:28,652 --> 01:22:31,732
Speaker 2: I would hate for anyone to be stretching or you know,

1642
01:22:32,253 --> 01:22:35,293
Speaker 2: going without to pay for my funeral. That would make

1643
01:22:35,333 --> 01:22:38,452
Speaker 2: me miserable if I could still feel anything to know

1644
01:22:38,492 --> 01:22:40,892
Speaker 2: that people people have put themselves out or been stressed

1645
01:22:40,973 --> 01:22:43,013
Speaker 2: by my passing. I don't want it to be as

1646
01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:46,173
Speaker 2: simple and cheap as possible, because you can all all

1647
01:22:46,213 --> 01:22:48,612
Speaker 2: the emotion and all the all the chats can be

1648
01:22:48,692 --> 01:22:52,053
Speaker 2: done very very simply just at at a bar.

1649
01:22:53,812 --> 01:22:56,333
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, but I'm like going back to probably

1650
01:22:56,333 --> 01:22:58,612
Speaker 11: you know, the seventies and eighties, when I've had you know,

1651
01:22:58,692 --> 01:23:02,452
Speaker 11: our family members have passed, but simply not having the money.

1652
01:23:02,732 --> 01:23:04,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got.

1653
01:23:04,333 --> 01:23:06,293
Speaker 11: People go, well, we want to have we want them

1654
01:23:06,333 --> 01:23:08,452
Speaker 11: to have a nice casket, and we want to all

1655
01:23:08,532 --> 01:23:11,173
Speaker 11: these pretty nice flowers when they cost a lot of money.

1656
01:23:11,652 --> 01:23:14,012
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, thank you so much for your call, Falma.

1657
01:23:14,053 --> 01:23:17,492
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And look, I've managed to restrain myself.

1658
01:23:17,532 --> 01:23:20,372
Speaker 2: I was thinking about saying making a Falma and Lloye's joke,

1659
01:23:20,412 --> 01:23:21,372
Speaker 2: but it didn't good work.

1660
01:23:21,412 --> 01:23:24,532
Speaker 3: So I've I've grown more mature.

1661
01:23:24,612 --> 01:23:28,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, hi there. My mum had the big funeral she

1662
01:23:28,293 --> 01:23:30,732
Speaker 2: wanted at a cost of fourteen thousand New Zealand. My

1663
01:23:30,732 --> 01:23:32,772
Speaker 2: mother in law died a few months later in Australia

1664
01:23:32,853 --> 01:23:34,892
Speaker 2: last year. She wanted a three hundred and fifty dollars

1665
01:23:34,933 --> 01:23:40,133
Speaker 2: donation to go to the Malaluba Coast Guard mo Low

1666
01:23:40,293 --> 01:23:43,732
Speaker 2: Larber Coast Yard Coast Guard and allowed eight family members

1667
01:23:43,772 --> 01:23:45,932
Speaker 2: on the boat. When a chaplain with a chaplain, they

1668
01:23:45,973 --> 01:23:48,492
Speaker 2: scattered the ashes and provided a certificate with the name

1669
01:23:48,572 --> 01:23:51,293
Speaker 2: and the coordinates of the scattering. It was beautifully done

1670
01:23:51,372 --> 01:23:53,933
Speaker 2: and a fundraiser for the Coastguard. Both ladies got what

1671
01:23:53,973 --> 01:23:55,572
Speaker 2: they wanted as their sendoffs.

1672
01:23:55,732 --> 01:24:00,532
Speaker 3: See that is nice, guys, met In Tyler. Regarding funerals,

1673
01:24:00,532 --> 01:24:04,852
Speaker 3: our mum put aside ten thousand dollars for her funeral

1674
01:24:04,893 --> 01:24:06,892
Speaker 3: for years. We kept it aside when she had to

1675
01:24:06,893 --> 01:24:10,173
Speaker 3: go into care and a year and a half later

1676
01:24:10,412 --> 01:24:12,572
Speaker 3: when sadly we had to use it. We managed to

1677
01:24:12,572 --> 01:24:15,852
Speaker 3: do everything beautifully for her within the allotted amount. Although

1678
01:24:15,853 --> 01:24:17,852
Speaker 3: family were in the position to have stepped up and

1679
01:24:17,893 --> 01:24:20,612
Speaker 3: paid any extra. Mum had risen every detail of his

1680
01:24:20,692 --> 01:24:23,293
Speaker 3: service and spoken with us daughters what she wanted, so

1681
01:24:23,293 --> 01:24:25,452
Speaker 3: there were no problems. We put it all into action

1682
01:24:25,772 --> 01:24:27,852
Speaker 3: on December twenty three and had a wonderful gathering.

1683
01:24:28,293 --> 01:24:31,372
Speaker 2: See I might put side twenty grand for my funeral,

1684
01:24:31,492 --> 01:24:34,932
Speaker 2: and with the proviso that they try and skimp and

1685
01:24:35,013 --> 01:24:38,052
Speaker 2: spend the rest, you know, there's a bonus. However, however

1686
01:24:38,133 --> 01:24:39,612
Speaker 2: cheap you get it, you get the bonus and being

1687
01:24:39,612 --> 01:24:41,333
Speaker 2: able to spend the rest of it incentive.

1688
01:24:41,372 --> 01:24:43,093
Speaker 3: So if you can get away with five hundred bucks

1689
01:24:43,093 --> 01:24:45,612
Speaker 3: for Matt Heath's funeral because you don't want to big shebang,

1690
01:24:46,013 --> 01:24:49,213
Speaker 3: then you've got nineteen thousan five hundred marks I play with.

1691
01:24:49,612 --> 01:24:52,253
Speaker 3: That is a good incentive. O one hundred and eighty

1692
01:24:52,253 --> 01:24:55,372
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number. Call it's thirteen past three. Backfrey,

1693
01:24:55,412 --> 01:24:58,053
Speaker 3: surely you're listening about and Tyler, good afternoon. It is

1694
01:24:58,133 --> 01:25:01,173
Speaker 3: quarter past three, and we've been discussing the costs of

1695
01:25:01,253 --> 01:25:03,933
Speaker 3: funerals and burials in New Zealand's.

1696
01:25:03,893 --> 01:25:05,932
Speaker 2: And we had a call from Tom before, a beautiful call.

1697
01:25:05,973 --> 01:25:08,532
Speaker 2: What a great man he is, great New Zealand. And

1698
01:25:09,053 --> 01:25:11,173
Speaker 2: we are saying for the book that he said to read,

1699
01:25:11,812 --> 01:25:13,772
Speaker 2: and it was by When I Die A Record of

1700
01:25:13,772 --> 01:25:18,012
Speaker 2: Personal Details and the End of Life Planner by Catherine

1701
01:25:18,013 --> 01:25:22,172
Speaker 2: Perks from your local bookstore When a loved One Dies.

1702
01:25:22,853 --> 01:25:25,133
Speaker 2: He got it from the Woman's Bookstore Limited. You can

1703
01:25:25,173 --> 01:25:28,452
Speaker 2: get it just google it. So by when by When

1704
01:25:28,452 --> 01:25:31,372
Speaker 2: I Die? A Record of Personal Details an end of

1705
01:25:31,452 --> 01:25:32,212
Speaker 2: Life Planner?

1706
01:25:32,333 --> 01:25:34,132
Speaker 3: Yes you go, Thank you very much, Tom.

1707
01:25:34,772 --> 01:25:38,652
Speaker 2: This Texas is posthold borer vertical burial, no one balming

1708
01:25:38,812 --> 01:25:41,852
Speaker 2: box of beers and sausages and the barbecue done. Funeral

1709
01:25:41,853 --> 01:25:45,133
Speaker 2: directors are scalping. That sounds like a better year. Are

1710
01:25:45,173 --> 01:25:49,053
Speaker 2: you allowed a vertical burial? I don't know, but it's

1711
01:25:49,053 --> 01:25:51,372
Speaker 2: a great question. I mean, are you worried that you're

1712
01:25:51,372 --> 01:25:53,253
Speaker 2: going to spend all of eternity standing up and you're

1713
01:25:53,412 --> 01:25:55,213
Speaker 2: you know, you end up being you know, you're working

1714
01:25:55,213 --> 01:25:56,932
Speaker 2: in retail for the rest of your life, but then

1715
01:25:56,973 --> 01:25:58,452
Speaker 2: the cost of the rest of your death.

1716
01:25:58,572 --> 01:26:01,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, how far? So they did six feet for

1717
01:26:01,933 --> 01:26:04,692
Speaker 3: a normal I suppose you get you know, I'm not

1718
01:26:04,732 --> 01:26:06,013
Speaker 3: six foots so that would.

1719
01:26:05,933 --> 01:26:10,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot easier to dig a hole, you know,

1720
01:26:11,053 --> 01:26:13,093
Speaker 2: six feet then six feet you know, for me would

1721
01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:15,572
Speaker 2: be six feet down and then another six two, six

1722
01:26:15,692 --> 01:26:18,932
Speaker 2: three further down for you six down in about what

1723
01:26:19,093 --> 01:26:23,213
Speaker 2: five four down further. So it's not you know, if

1724
01:26:23,213 --> 01:26:26,092
Speaker 2: you've got the right boring equipment and so I'd be cheaper,

1725
01:26:26,213 --> 01:26:26,732
Speaker 2: is what you're saying.

1726
01:26:26,812 --> 01:26:28,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that works for me.

1727
01:26:29,253 --> 01:26:32,372
Speaker 2: Friends, I see you.

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01:26:32,372 --> 01:26:36,253
Speaker 19: Doing a good quite quite a good story. It reminds

1729
01:26:36,293 --> 01:26:39,612
Speaker 19: me of another story of the husband and wife arguing

1730
01:26:39,692 --> 01:26:42,372
Speaker 19: over hugoes farce and who goes second because they one

1731
01:26:42,412 --> 01:26:44,772
Speaker 19: of them wanted to be facing the other when the

1732
01:26:44,812 --> 01:26:46,412
Speaker 19: well first one went in the hole in the second

1733
01:26:46,452 --> 01:26:51,293
Speaker 19: one winning. Hey, look, my back story is I've been

1734
01:26:51,293 --> 01:26:54,293
Speaker 19: an active funeral celebrate in christ Church since twenty seventeen.

1735
01:26:54,973 --> 01:26:57,333
Speaker 19: I became a god as to become a funeral director

1736
01:26:57,372 --> 01:27:00,492
Speaker 19: back in twenty twenty. Last year, in February, I jumped

1737
01:27:00,492 --> 01:27:02,732
Speaker 19: out of that industry because I found that it had

1738
01:27:02,772 --> 01:27:05,772
Speaker 19: become a little bit too transactional and so in christ

1739
01:27:05,853 --> 01:27:09,253
Speaker 19: you So I started a little independent business that's been

1740
01:27:09,293 --> 01:27:11,813
Speaker 19: going around where I go around and talk to audiences

1741
01:27:11,853 --> 01:27:16,213
Speaker 19: about funeral options and affordability, rest homes or timed villages,

1742
01:27:16,293 --> 01:27:21,452
Speaker 19: community groups, businesses and associations and families. The landscape has

1743
01:27:21,572 --> 01:27:24,772
Speaker 19: changed quite a bit and COVID where we're moving towards

1744
01:27:24,772 --> 01:27:29,493
Speaker 19: more direct cremations and then having some amoralization type ceremony afterwards.

1745
01:27:30,253 --> 01:27:32,132
Speaker 19: It allows people to have a little bit more time

1746
01:27:32,652 --> 01:27:36,973
Speaker 19: to actually organize something when they're quite vulnerable. And the

1747
01:27:37,053 --> 01:27:39,492
Speaker 19: other thing is that I've been able to say families

1748
01:27:39,652 --> 01:27:43,012
Speaker 19: spent four to twelve thousand dollars on a full funeral,

1749
01:27:44,412 --> 01:27:46,293
Speaker 19: and I just thought I'd wanted to share that here.

1750
01:27:46,293 --> 01:27:49,213
Speaker 19: In christ Use, for example, a lot of people don't

1751
01:27:49,293 --> 01:27:52,532
Speaker 19: know what sometimes their options are. And there are nineteen

1752
01:27:52,532 --> 01:27:54,452
Speaker 19: funeral operators in christ Huch and they all off for

1753
01:27:54,492 --> 01:27:56,852
Speaker 19: a direct cremation service and some might have viewing or not.

1754
01:27:58,452 --> 01:28:01,492
Speaker 19: And the cheapest is twenty two hundred including GST or

1755
01:28:01,532 --> 01:28:04,973
Speaker 19: six thousand, six hundred and sixty five including GST. So

1756
01:28:05,013 --> 01:28:08,372
Speaker 19: there's a huge variance and perhaps the same type of

1757
01:28:08,452 --> 01:28:11,572
Speaker 19: service being offered as far as the cost goes. And

1758
01:28:11,612 --> 01:28:15,133
Speaker 19: therefore some people that or if there are families who

1759
01:28:15,173 --> 01:28:19,253
Speaker 19: are able to perhaps make cost savings just in that

1760
01:28:19,412 --> 01:28:21,532
Speaker 19: part of the journey when they're going through a bereavement.

1761
01:28:22,213 --> 01:28:23,892
Speaker 2: So are you talking about it? Are you talking about

1762
01:28:24,053 --> 01:28:27,612
Speaker 2: so you have the cremation that part of it done

1763
01:28:27,853 --> 01:28:30,932
Speaker 2: and then you work on the ceremony over over, over time.

1764
01:28:31,732 --> 01:28:33,772
Speaker 19: Correct memorial service.

1765
01:28:33,933 --> 01:28:36,692
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean obviously it doesn't obviously that that

1766
01:28:36,772 --> 01:28:40,013
Speaker 2: doesn't work if you're if you're not cremating, because you

1767
01:28:40,053 --> 01:28:40,692
Speaker 2: have to get it done.

1768
01:28:41,293 --> 01:28:46,892
Speaker 19: Oh absolutely, yeah. Yeah, So I think that when COVID hit,

1769
01:28:47,652 --> 01:28:51,412
Speaker 19: we went able to have funerals per fee like we

1770
01:28:51,532 --> 01:28:54,492
Speaker 19: have the traditional ones. So people either went onto a

1771
01:28:54,492 --> 01:28:57,253
Speaker 19: long embalm to be buried or have a service down

1772
01:28:57,253 --> 01:28:59,532
Speaker 19: the track, or or they got cremated and then a

1773
01:28:59,572 --> 01:29:02,612
Speaker 19: memorial service or a type of service was had with

1774
01:29:02,772 --> 01:29:06,012
Speaker 19: the eshes present, and therefore after that they were able

1775
01:29:06,013 --> 01:29:09,892
Speaker 19: to be scared or interred, and that sort of has

1776
01:29:10,532 --> 01:29:15,452
Speaker 19: trajector the industry on a trajectory of more of those,

1777
01:29:15,973 --> 01:29:18,612
Speaker 19: because more families are now able to organize their own

1778
01:29:18,652 --> 01:29:21,812
Speaker 19: memorial service without engaging a funeral director and therefore save

1779
01:29:21,933 --> 01:29:25,812
Speaker 19: on a professional services the cost associated with that. And

1780
01:29:26,253 --> 01:29:30,412
Speaker 19: you can have a memorial service at home, in a park,

1781
01:29:30,572 --> 01:29:33,933
Speaker 19: at the beach, at a club and it can just

1782
01:29:34,053 --> 01:29:36,372
Speaker 19: drive the cost down quite significantly.

1783
01:29:36,973 --> 01:29:38,572
Speaker 2: How how would people get a hold of you if

1784
01:29:38,612 --> 01:29:41,572
Speaker 2: they wanted to connect and share?

1785
01:29:42,532 --> 01:29:46,492
Speaker 19: Yeah, so my little week business is called everything general.

1786
01:29:46,612 --> 01:29:48,973
Speaker 19: It's your life. You'll fare well know your options. And

1787
01:29:49,412 --> 01:29:51,372
Speaker 19: if I have a website that has quite a bit

1788
01:29:51,412 --> 01:29:53,572
Speaker 19: of information on that I share with people, it's just

1789
01:29:53,732 --> 01:29:56,932
Speaker 19: www dot everything funeral dot end z.

1790
01:29:57,492 --> 01:29:58,972
Speaker 2: Well there you go. Thank you for your call, Brent.

1791
01:29:59,213 --> 01:30:02,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is probably someone that you want

1792
01:30:02,933 --> 01:30:06,093
Speaker 3: to engage with, you know, without giving Rent too much

1793
01:30:06,093 --> 01:30:09,612
Speaker 3: of a plug. Having an advisor that's independent if cost

1794
01:30:09,732 --> 01:30:11,333
Speaker 3: is a big thing for you, seems like a wise idea.

1795
01:30:11,372 --> 01:30:13,892
Speaker 2: I should have asked him about the vertical funerals. I

1796
01:30:14,013 --> 01:30:16,492
Speaker 2: organized my death years ago, says Rose. I bought my plot,

1797
01:30:16,532 --> 01:30:20,173
Speaker 2: made my coffin at our coffin club, got fuel insurance,

1798
01:30:20,213 --> 01:30:22,253
Speaker 2: and not one cent my family have to pay. I'm

1799
01:30:22,293 --> 01:30:25,612
Speaker 2: keeping it private, just immediate family and friend. I were

1800
01:30:25,652 --> 01:30:28,452
Speaker 2: buried after two nights with my family and close friends.

1801
01:30:29,133 --> 01:30:31,293
Speaker 2: Most of my dear friends have already passed. I feel

1802
01:30:31,333 --> 01:30:33,852
Speaker 2: good about dying knowing my family never have to worry.

1803
01:30:33,893 --> 01:30:37,733
Speaker 2: I'm in my seventies now, cheers Rose. Very organized.

1804
01:30:37,772 --> 01:30:39,052
Speaker 3: Yep, you're a plan of Rose.

1805
01:30:39,692 --> 01:30:42,412
Speaker 2: I guaranteed Rose has had a life of quality Edmond

1806
01:30:42,973 --> 01:30:47,652
Speaker 2: where but my grandmother was like that, Mum Powell before

1807
01:30:47,692 --> 01:30:49,892
Speaker 2: she went she organized everything. She went around the house.

1808
01:30:49,973 --> 01:30:53,852
Speaker 2: She had wrote the names of all on what everyone

1809
01:30:53,893 --> 01:30:57,812
Speaker 2: was getting. Everything was absolutely organized so far in.

1810
01:30:57,772 --> 01:31:00,372
Speaker 3: Advance, which I found life, which.

1811
01:31:00,173 --> 01:31:02,093
Speaker 2: I found really weird as a kid. Walking around and

1812
01:31:02,133 --> 01:31:04,813
Speaker 2: seeing that everything had been organized, I was like, but Granny,

1813
01:31:04,853 --> 01:31:05,772
Speaker 2: you're not going to die.

1814
01:31:06,452 --> 01:31:08,772
Speaker 3: I take my head off to pin that like Edmond

1815
01:31:08,853 --> 01:31:09,013
Speaker 3: like that.

1816
01:31:09,093 --> 01:31:10,972
Speaker 2: It turns out I was wrong. She did die. Yep,

1817
01:31:11,133 --> 01:31:11,892
Speaker 2: great New Zealander.

1818
01:31:11,933 --> 01:31:14,293
Speaker 3: She was absolutely Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1819
01:31:14,333 --> 01:31:15,972
Speaker 3: the number to call. Will take a few more calls

1820
01:31:16,013 --> 01:31:20,852
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is twenty two pass three.

1821
01:31:22,013 --> 01:31:25,692
Speaker 1: Madd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1822
01:31:25,772 --> 01:31:28,252
Speaker 1: ten eighty on youth Talk ZB afternoon.

1823
01:31:28,293 --> 01:31:29,852
Speaker 3: It is twenty four past three.

1824
01:31:30,213 --> 01:31:32,572
Speaker 2: Lads. My dad passed a month ago. He was cremated

1825
01:31:32,652 --> 01:31:35,012
Speaker 2: and we had a brilliant memorial at home with friends

1826
01:31:35,053 --> 01:31:38,652
Speaker 2: and family. Cheap airs exactly what dad wanted. Yeah, that's

1827
01:31:38,692 --> 01:31:40,572
Speaker 2: what I want, cheap airs. A you're listening kids.

1828
01:31:40,772 --> 01:31:44,732
Speaker 3: Yep, guys, if you don't plan for your funeral, you

1829
01:31:44,772 --> 01:31:47,172
Speaker 3: were foolish in creating a burden for others.

1830
01:31:47,492 --> 01:31:49,892
Speaker 2: It would be I mean, that's a bit rough on people.

1831
01:31:49,973 --> 01:31:53,213
Speaker 2: That die unexpectedly or you know, suddenly get a rough

1832
01:31:53,253 --> 01:31:56,253
Speaker 2: diagnosis and maybe don't have the energy to sort it out.

1833
01:31:56,293 --> 01:31:58,532
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean the problem is that we all

1834
01:31:58,572 --> 01:32:01,452
Speaker 2: think that we're going to live forever. Yep. So you know,

1835
01:32:01,732 --> 01:32:04,372
Speaker 2: to plan your own funeral, you have to accept your

1836
01:32:04,372 --> 01:32:07,572
Speaker 2: own mortality, and to be honest, I probably haven't accepted

1837
01:32:07,572 --> 01:32:07,932
Speaker 2: that yet.

1838
01:32:08,853 --> 01:32:10,652
Speaker 3: But again, if you're you know, you want to keep

1839
01:32:10,652 --> 01:32:12,532
Speaker 3: the costs low when you're saving five hundred bucks, I'm

1840
01:32:12,572 --> 01:32:15,053
Speaker 3: sure with your you know, they could sell your car

1841
01:32:15,173 --> 01:32:16,532
Speaker 3: or something rustle up the money that way.

1842
01:32:16,933 --> 01:32:19,692
Speaker 2: Vertical funeral. Yeah, Paul, welcome to the show.

1843
01:32:20,612 --> 01:32:25,612
Speaker 6: Oh my gods, my view on it now. My mother

1844
01:32:25,692 --> 01:32:27,652
Speaker 6: died a chance and it's coming up ten years in

1845
01:32:27,692 --> 01:32:32,772
Speaker 6: a couple of days, and she didn't want to be cremated,

1846
01:32:33,692 --> 01:32:36,213
Speaker 6: and she didn't want the minister because she didn't like him,

1847
01:32:36,372 --> 01:32:39,572
Speaker 6: so Mushafa. So so when she did die, my father

1848
01:32:39,612 --> 01:32:41,892
Speaker 6: wanted to gether cremated, so I had to I had

1849
01:32:41,933 --> 01:32:45,412
Speaker 6: to step in and say no, she's getting buried. And

1850
01:32:45,692 --> 01:32:48,293
Speaker 6: the minister was so sick at the funeral that he

1851
01:32:48,333 --> 01:32:50,532
Speaker 6: couldn't get up and speak, so I had to do everything.

1852
01:32:50,933 --> 01:32:54,692
Speaker 6: So I had to do the eulogy and even planning

1853
01:32:54,692 --> 01:32:57,772
Speaker 6: for the funeral. My siblings just they bug it off

1854
01:32:57,772 --> 01:32:59,173
Speaker 6: and left me to it, you know, when we went

1855
01:32:59,213 --> 01:33:02,412
Speaker 6: off the coffee with relatives and I was left to

1856
01:33:02,412 --> 01:33:02,972
Speaker 6: do everything.

1857
01:33:03,652 --> 01:33:06,053
Speaker 2: Did you did you? Did you experience some pride that

1858
01:33:06,093 --> 01:33:09,532
Speaker 2: you were the sublime thing that stood up and did

1859
01:33:09,652 --> 01:33:10,812
Speaker 2: did the right thing for your mum?

1860
01:33:11,893 --> 01:33:14,052
Speaker 6: Oh, I definitely did. I think I was the closest

1861
01:33:14,053 --> 01:33:18,932
Speaker 6: one to my mother, and the problem was dying with cancer.

1862
01:33:19,093 --> 01:33:21,333
Speaker 6: Until we get very angry at the end of life too,

1863
01:33:21,492 --> 01:33:23,973
Speaker 6: so it's quite hard to go through that, you know,

1864
01:33:24,013 --> 01:33:26,852
Speaker 6: when you're securing to add uing with one another over nothing,

1865
01:33:27,532 --> 01:33:32,452
Speaker 6: you know. But yeah, so he was going to even

1866
01:33:32,452 --> 01:33:34,893
Speaker 6: take the wedding bring off. He'd already given all the

1867
01:33:34,973 --> 01:33:37,812
Speaker 6: jewelry to my sister, and you know, and he had

1868
01:33:38,732 --> 01:33:40,572
Speaker 6: it's worth of it, so you know, I'm talking about

1869
01:33:40,572 --> 01:33:44,093
Speaker 6: solid gold stuff. But I made you know. And there's

1870
01:33:44,133 --> 01:33:46,092
Speaker 6: one thing. I said, No, you're leaving my mother's wedding

1871
01:33:46,133 --> 01:33:49,093
Speaker 6: ring on her finger, so we're putting we put a

1872
01:33:49,093 --> 01:33:52,972
Speaker 6: favorite to your few favorite shoes. And then you wanted

1873
01:33:52,973 --> 01:33:55,532
Speaker 6: to spend the less money he could on a coffin,

1874
01:33:55,532 --> 01:33:57,173
Speaker 6: and I said, you're not doing that to my mother

1875
01:33:58,053 --> 01:34:00,412
Speaker 6: because my mother didn't have it what she did here,

1876
01:34:00,532 --> 01:34:04,213
Speaker 6: she had good stuff and and he, my father had

1877
01:34:04,213 --> 01:34:06,133
Speaker 6: spent most of his life, you know, y offering and

1878
01:34:06,213 --> 01:34:09,492
Speaker 6: boozing up and having a great laugh. Well, my mother,

1879
01:34:09,612 --> 01:34:12,452
Speaker 6: my mother looked after kids, you know, like most mums

1880
01:34:12,452 --> 01:34:16,692
Speaker 6: said in the seventies and eighties. You know, it was

1881
01:34:16,772 --> 01:34:19,532
Speaker 6: it was quite a horrible experience for me. And there's

1882
01:34:19,572 --> 01:34:21,572
Speaker 6: one thing I can say that the funeral directors were

1883
01:34:21,612 --> 01:34:22,652
Speaker 6: absolutely brilliant.

1884
01:34:22,772 --> 01:34:25,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you get the funeral you wanted for your mum?

1885
01:34:25,293 --> 01:34:25,772
Speaker 2: In the import?

1886
01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:29,333
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got to speak. My father wudn't let me

1887
01:34:29,372 --> 01:34:31,133
Speaker 6: say a lot of stuff in my eulogy, which I

1888
01:34:31,173 --> 01:34:34,452
Speaker 6: don't know why, And I'll say it now. My mother,

1889
01:34:34,692 --> 01:34:36,972
Speaker 6: my mother had a love for the beetles, and when

1890
01:34:37,013 --> 01:34:40,013
Speaker 6: she was fourteen, she didn't have the twenty pounds to

1891
01:34:40,093 --> 01:34:42,492
Speaker 6: go see them because it was so much money back then.

1892
01:34:42,933 --> 01:34:45,213
Speaker 6: So she was one of those screaming kids in the crowd.

1893
01:34:45,853 --> 01:34:47,972
Speaker 6: And so she was right up by the diesels car

1894
01:34:48,053 --> 01:34:51,532
Speaker 6: when they're in thenason, she lost her shoe and the

1895
01:34:51,572 --> 01:34:53,892
Speaker 6: policeman stuck her up on the bonnet. So she's looking

1896
01:34:53,933 --> 01:34:55,572
Speaker 6: straight in the window and all she could say was

1897
01:34:55,612 --> 01:34:58,772
Speaker 6: all that Ringo had greasy year. It wasn't a real cream.

1898
01:34:58,812 --> 01:35:01,133
Speaker 3: But that's a lovely story.

1899
01:35:01,372 --> 01:35:04,053
Speaker 2: Well, good on you, Paul for stepping up. And yeah,

1900
01:35:04,093 --> 01:35:06,133
Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, he highlights that the you know,

1901
01:35:06,253 --> 01:35:08,812
Speaker 2: funerals can beautiful times, but they can be pretty tense

1902
01:35:08,893 --> 01:35:12,412
Speaker 2: times within families. If we can something wide or know

1903
01:35:12,492 --> 01:35:14,372
Speaker 2: about a funeral director, welcome to the show.

1904
01:35:15,053 --> 01:35:19,412
Speaker 23: Hey guys, helly you could Yeah, I guess I just

1905
01:35:19,412 --> 01:35:22,573
Speaker 23: wanted to give some feedback from a funeral director's perspective.

1906
01:35:23,652 --> 01:35:26,532
Speaker 23: I'm the general manager for a couple of large companies

1907
01:35:26,572 --> 01:35:29,772
Speaker 23: and his own Davis Care and Bills Funeral Services, and

1908
01:35:31,213 --> 01:35:33,732
Speaker 23: I guess what we're seeing a lot of is this

1909
01:35:33,812 --> 01:35:38,452
Speaker 23: can this talk about funerals being so expensive, even down

1910
01:35:38,492 --> 01:35:42,532
Speaker 23: to the point of funeral directors ripping families off, And

1911
01:35:42,572 --> 01:35:44,932
Speaker 23: you know, there's several parts of this. One of your

1912
01:35:45,013 --> 01:35:47,972
Speaker 23: previous callers said, you know, when you're grieving or suffering loss,

1913
01:35:48,173 --> 01:35:51,612
Speaker 23: you're not thinking clearly. Again, that's the space that we

1914
01:35:51,692 --> 01:35:56,333
Speaker 23: step into. We help families know what their options are,

1915
01:35:56,372 --> 01:36:01,133
Speaker 23: giving them the options and really trying to allow them

1916
01:36:01,253 --> 01:36:04,053
Speaker 23: time to get their head around what's going on, and

1917
01:36:04,532 --> 01:36:08,173
Speaker 23: allowing them to really fall into the grief process and

1918
01:36:08,452 --> 01:36:11,253
Speaker 23: not have to worry about the nuts and bolts of

1919
01:36:11,293 --> 01:36:13,412
Speaker 23: it all. We can take care of those things, and

1920
01:36:13,452 --> 01:36:15,692
Speaker 23: you know, those things do come at a cost. At

1921
01:36:15,692 --> 01:36:18,412
Speaker 23: the end of the day. We are businesses. We're businesses

1922
01:36:18,452 --> 01:36:21,253
Speaker 23: that have overheads, and it costs us to turn the

1923
01:36:21,333 --> 01:36:24,612
Speaker 23: lights on, and so there are costs involved with that.

1924
01:36:25,093 --> 01:36:27,012
Speaker 23: And I think when you know, you guys are talking

1925
01:36:27,053 --> 01:36:30,452
Speaker 23: about the variants and charges, you know some of that

1926
01:36:30,612 --> 01:36:32,612
Speaker 23: might actually come down to the care of the deceased

1927
01:36:32,652 --> 01:36:35,692
Speaker 23: as well. So you get some you get a company

1928
01:36:35,692 --> 01:36:39,013
Speaker 23: who's charging two thousand dollars for no service, and you

1929
01:36:39,053 --> 01:36:42,452
Speaker 23: get a company that's charging six thousand dollars for no service.

1930
01:36:42,652 --> 01:36:46,293
Speaker 23: I guarantee you their facilities, their vehicles, their staff, et cetera,

1931
01:36:46,372 --> 01:36:48,933
Speaker 23: et cetera aren't the same, so that you're not going

1932
01:36:49,013 --> 01:36:53,293
Speaker 23: to necessarily get the same level of care. And then

1933
01:36:53,452 --> 01:36:56,933
Speaker 23: you know, we're very quick as well to say we

1934
01:36:57,013 --> 01:36:59,732
Speaker 23: don't want to spend twelve thousand on a funeral, but

1935
01:36:59,893 --> 01:37:02,812
Speaker 23: at the same time we're happy to spend twenty thirty

1936
01:37:02,893 --> 01:37:06,412
Speaker 23: forty thousand on a wedding. Yeah, as we know, Hey,

1937
01:37:06,492 --> 01:37:07,533
Speaker 23: you might have a couple.

1938
01:37:07,253 --> 01:37:11,892
Speaker 2: Of those now wade what what you know? You say

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Speaker 2: that you're there to provide people with with with options

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Speaker 2: and help them through the situation. How do you how

1941
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Speaker 2: do you, you know, traverse the moral waters of up selling

1942
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Speaker 2: people because people in that in that emotional state might

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Speaker 2: just want to spend more than they need to to

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Speaker 2: to make a statement when you when you make give

1945
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Speaker 2: them the offer. Because obviously there's levels of funeral how

1946
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Speaker 2: do you how do you make sure that you're not

1947
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Speaker 2: playing on their emotions to get them to spend more

1948
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Speaker 2: money than they want to, which they might regret, you know,

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Speaker 2: when when the grieving processes has calmed down a little bit.

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Speaker 23: Absolutely, I think if you're a half decent operator, are

1951
01:37:50,933 --> 01:37:52,772
Speaker 23: you going to make sure that you're working within a

1952
01:37:52,772 --> 01:37:57,453
Speaker 23: person's budget or something that's affordable to them and not upselling.

1953
01:37:59,853 --> 01:38:03,133
Speaker 23: The options are there if they want them, they're available

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01:38:03,173 --> 01:38:06,293
Speaker 23: to them. There's alternatives often to those things. You know,

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01:38:08,093 --> 01:38:10,652
Speaker 23: it's it's almost become the normal. Say with catering, that

1956
01:38:11,133 --> 01:38:13,452
Speaker 23: funeral grout is going to organize the catering after the

1957
01:38:13,492 --> 01:38:16,812
Speaker 23: funeral if family can't afford that they can have something

1958
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Speaker 23: at home later. It might be the casket type and

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01:38:20,933 --> 01:38:22,652
Speaker 23: it might be you know the fact that it is

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Speaker 23: transactional that you're saying to the families once a range.

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Speaker 23: Once you've discussed what they want, then it's discussing what

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Speaker 23: their needs are and asking that question of how are

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Speaker 23: they actually thinking that they're going to pay for this?

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Speaker 23: Is it affordable to them? And then having an honest

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Speaker 23: conversation and then trying to find a way that works

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Speaker 23: for them to still provide them of what they need.

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01:38:45,253 --> 01:38:47,732
Speaker 23: And you know, there's a lot of needs and want

1968
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Speaker 23: with lots of things, and funerals are one of those,

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01:38:51,013 --> 01:38:53,412
Speaker 23: and they don't have to be a big production. But

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01:38:53,452 --> 01:38:57,012
Speaker 23: I think we're falling into this trap of I don't

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01:38:57,093 --> 01:39:00,692
Speaker 23: want a funeral basically because I don't want a production.

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Speaker 23: And so what you're actually then doing is denying family

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Speaker 23: members the opportunity to say goodbye and having something there

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01:39:08,333 --> 01:39:10,613
Speaker 23: interesting point in between space.

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Speaker 2: Because the process, the process of going through the funeral

1976
01:39:12,973 --> 01:39:16,412
Speaker 2: has been put together over many, many, many many years

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01:39:16,973 --> 01:39:20,532
Speaker 2: by humans to deal with it. It's designed to go

1978
01:39:20,572 --> 01:39:22,532
Speaker 2: through the process of each part of it to help

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01:39:22,612 --> 01:39:25,372
Speaker 2: people deal with the grieving processes. Is what you say.

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01:39:25,732 --> 01:39:27,572
Speaker 2: So in a way, it might be selfish to be

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01:39:27,933 --> 01:39:29,893
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is just you have me in a

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Speaker 2: vertical whole and move on, because then they don't get

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Speaker 2: the closure.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and I think it's fine to say that. But

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01:39:38,812 --> 01:39:41,212
Speaker 23: add to the end of that, but if the family

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01:39:41,253 --> 01:39:44,093
Speaker 23: want to do something different, you've got my permission to

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Speaker 23: do so, because then needs are going to be different.

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Speaker 8: To what yours wants.

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Speaker 2: That's a nasting point.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and one of you, one of you mentioned that

1991
01:39:51,692 --> 01:39:53,572
Speaker 23: just before we think we're going to live forever, the

1992
01:39:53,612 --> 01:39:54,692
Speaker 23: reality is we're not.

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Speaker 2: Damn it.

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Speaker 23: And so yeah, we're especially New Zealand. Europeans are pretty

1995
01:40:02,652 --> 01:40:04,732
Speaker 23: death denial as far as cultures go.

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Speaker 6: And we've got a.

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Speaker 23: Whole lot of other cultures in New Zealand who really

1998
01:40:08,013 --> 01:40:12,372
Speaker 23: underst san death, grief and grieving and have those things,

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Speaker 23: those iconic things in their culture in place to deal

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Speaker 23: with it. And the European fallback seems to be, well,

2001
01:40:18,572 --> 01:40:20,892
Speaker 23: you know, I'd rather think about summers coming and I

2002
01:40:20,933 --> 01:40:22,852
Speaker 23: want to go to the beach than thinking about the

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01:40:22,893 --> 01:40:24,852
Speaker 23: potential that we're not going to be here forever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and sok, hey, thank you so much for giving

2005
01:40:27,452 --> 01:40:31,653
Speaker 2: that perspective, way to appreciate it and finally go house business.

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Speaker 23: It's always there.

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Speaker 3: It's very true to growth business. Yeah, way, thank you

2008
01:40:39,213 --> 01:40:42,892
Speaker 3: very much. Right, that was a really good discussion. Thank

2009
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Speaker 3: you very much to everyone who text and phoned on

2010
01:40:45,133 --> 01:40:47,093
Speaker 3: that one. We've got headlines coming up. Then we're going

2011
01:40:47,133 --> 01:40:48,732
Speaker 3: to change tack a little bit because it's the last

2012
01:40:48,732 --> 01:40:50,452
Speaker 3: half hour of the show. We want to talk about

2013
01:40:50,452 --> 01:40:53,692
Speaker 3: comfort TV shows. Great story in the world. It's headline

2014
01:40:53,732 --> 01:40:57,012
Speaker 3: comfort TV shows what your guilty pleasure viewing says about

2015
01:40:57,013 --> 01:40:57,893
Speaker 3: your personality.

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01:40:58,213 --> 01:41:01,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to I am less interested in

2017
01:41:01,372 --> 01:41:03,772
Speaker 2: that title. I'm less interested in your topic and I'm

2018
01:41:03,812 --> 01:41:06,532
Speaker 2: more interested in mine, which shows that you judge people

2019
01:41:06,532 --> 01:41:07,052
Speaker 2: for watching.

2020
01:41:07,173 --> 01:41:10,492
Speaker 3: Oh, we all judge people for the shows that they watch.

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01:41:10,572 --> 01:41:12,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the comfort shows are the ones

2022
01:41:12,492 --> 01:41:16,412
Speaker 2: that you most judge. So shows your comfort shows and

2023
01:41:16,452 --> 01:41:19,093
Speaker 2: also shows you judge people for watching. Yep, it is

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01:41:19,213 --> 01:41:22,253
Speaker 2: twenty six four bag Visually philbit tried after all the

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01:41:22,333 --> 01:41:25,372
Speaker 2: some quite emotional death, chet doesn't it?

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Speaker 8: That does Jus talks.

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Speaker 15: It'd be headlines with blue bubble Taxis It's no trouble

2028
01:41:33,213 --> 01:41:36,572
Speaker 15: with a blue bubble. An independent review of farmac is

2029
01:41:36,652 --> 01:41:41,893
Speaker 15: recommending agency wide changes, calling its operations and decision processes

2030
01:41:42,253 --> 01:41:45,972
Speaker 15: not fit for purpose. Meanwhile, the government's changing the law

2031
01:41:46,013 --> 01:41:50,173
Speaker 15: to allow medical conferences in New Zealand containing advertising for

2032
01:41:50,333 --> 01:41:55,293
Speaker 15: unconsented medicines. Topoor Hospital will be the first North Island

2033
01:41:55,412 --> 01:41:59,372
Speaker 15: site to train rural doctors, delivering Australian College of Rural

2034
01:41:59,412 --> 01:42:03,572
Speaker 15: and Remote Medicine Training. Police have seized a shotgun and

2035
01:42:03,612 --> 01:42:07,212
Speaker 15: cartridges from a van with false plates caught in Auckland's

2036
01:42:07,293 --> 01:42:10,772
Speaker 15: Manure Were last night. The driver and passenger were arrested

2037
01:42:10,772 --> 01:42:15,253
Speaker 15: in the vehicle driving through Rowndale Avenue stolen from Takanini

2038
01:42:15,333 --> 01:42:21,172
Speaker 15: last week. A severe thunderstorm watch applies across Northland until tonight.

2039
01:42:22,173 --> 01:42:25,012
Speaker 15: The Transport Ministers announced the eleven and a half kilometer

2040
01:42:25,133 --> 01:42:29,412
Speaker 15: four lane Manawatua Doua Highway is opening to traffic in June.

2041
01:42:29,772 --> 01:42:34,293
Speaker 15: It replaces the slip affected State Highway three through Manawatu Gorge.

2042
01:42:35,053 --> 01:42:38,452
Speaker 15: One hundred days. That's all it took to sever America

2043
01:42:38,532 --> 01:42:41,132
Speaker 15: from the world. You can read the New York Times

2044
01:42:41,213 --> 01:42:44,333
Speaker 15: article at NZ Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eathan

2045
01:42:44,412 --> 01:42:45,692
Speaker 15: Tyler Adams.

2046
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for Raylean. So we want to

2047
01:42:47,372 --> 01:42:50,093
Speaker 3: change tank. Over the next twenty five minutes, we want

2048
01:42:50,093 --> 01:42:53,132
Speaker 3: to talk about comfort TV shows. There's a great article

2049
01:42:53,173 --> 01:42:55,532
Speaker 3: in the Herald and its headline comfort TV shows what

2050
01:42:55,572 --> 01:42:58,333
Speaker 3: your guilty pleasure see is about your personality. But the

2051
01:42:58,412 --> 01:43:01,213
Speaker 3: question we really want to ask, or you want to ask, Matt,

2052
01:43:01,333 --> 01:43:04,333
Speaker 3: is what shows do you judge someone over? And they

2053
01:43:04,372 --> 01:43:06,253
Speaker 3: are comfort shows that we judge people over.

2054
01:43:06,532 --> 01:43:10,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Tyler, what's your from comfort television show?

2055
01:43:10,492 --> 01:43:14,213
Speaker 3: Friends? Love it so I can always go back to Friends.

2056
01:43:14,213 --> 01:43:16,412
Speaker 3: It is just it's like it is like a little

2057
01:43:16,412 --> 01:43:18,052
Speaker 3: friend on the Telly Millennial.

2058
01:43:18,213 --> 01:43:18,452
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2059
01:43:18,572 --> 01:43:20,492
Speaker 2: I mean, all you have to do is watch Friends

2060
01:43:20,492 --> 01:43:23,133
Speaker 2: without you know those when they you know, do those

2061
01:43:23,213 --> 01:43:25,053
Speaker 2: versions of it where they cut the soundtrack off. It's

2062
01:43:25,173 --> 01:43:26,853
Speaker 2: very weird. Ross is a psychopath.

2063
01:43:26,893 --> 01:43:29,612
Speaker 3: If you if you go without a laugh track is

2064
01:43:29,612 --> 01:43:31,492
Speaker 3: a terrible watch. But you need the laugh track, no

2065
01:43:31,532 --> 01:43:33,052
Speaker 3: doubt about it. Bring back the laugh track.

2066
01:43:33,093 --> 01:43:35,532
Speaker 2: Okay, yours Ah, Look, it's probably going to be The

2067
01:43:35,652 --> 01:43:38,812
Speaker 2: US Office good shows that I feel like my friends.

2068
01:43:38,893 --> 01:43:41,253
Speaker 2: I feel like they are they're you know, the Friends

2069
01:43:41,253 --> 01:43:41,852
Speaker 2: are your friends.

2070
01:43:41,933 --> 01:43:42,133
Speaker 7: Yep.

2071
01:43:42,293 --> 01:43:46,572
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone on the US Officers my friend

2072
01:43:46,652 --> 01:43:49,333
Speaker 2: until Steve Carroll left that was there was a couple.

2073
01:43:49,133 --> 01:43:51,572
Speaker 3: Of seasons that you're I mean the Will Farrell see Community.

2074
01:43:52,013 --> 01:43:56,692
Speaker 2: Community is a fantastic show. That's a that's especially seasons two, three,

2075
01:43:56,772 --> 01:44:00,892
Speaker 2: and four fantastic show. And also I've got a lot

2076
01:44:00,893 --> 01:44:01,612
Speaker 2: of time for Parks and.

2077
01:44:01,652 --> 01:44:04,052
Speaker 3: Rig Parks and Rick he had another great show.

2078
01:44:04,173 --> 01:44:07,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about shows you judge people for watching Maths?

2079
01:44:07,253 --> 01:44:09,492
Speaker 3: One hundred percent Marriage at first Site? I think that's

2080
01:44:09,572 --> 01:44:12,812
Speaker 3: absolute trash. I can see why people may find it

2081
01:44:12,812 --> 01:44:15,053
Speaker 3: appealing a little bit. No, actually I can't. I can't

2082
01:44:15,093 --> 01:44:17,812
Speaker 3: figure out why people love that so much. It's so weird.

2083
01:44:18,213 --> 01:44:20,692
Speaker 3: And the scandal it's not even scandal, it's all scripted.

2084
01:44:20,732 --> 01:44:22,492
Speaker 3: These are the weirdos that they find.

2085
01:44:22,652 --> 01:44:24,933
Speaker 2: Are we on you know, going back to the previous

2086
01:44:25,013 --> 01:44:28,412
Speaker 2: topic about funerals, are we on this planet long enough

2087
01:44:28,732 --> 01:44:31,852
Speaker 2: to spend our time watching Maths? So the valuable moments

2088
01:44:31,893 --> 01:44:33,852
Speaker 2: that you have on the planet, they work out, if

2089
01:44:33,853 --> 01:44:36,372
Speaker 2: you live to eighty you have four thousand weeks, So

2090
01:44:36,853 --> 01:44:40,972
Speaker 2: how many hours are you willing to spend on marrit

2091
01:44:41,013 --> 01:44:44,093
Speaker 2: at first site? And look that I will say that

2092
01:44:44,173 --> 01:44:48,253
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it, so I can't really judge. And

2093
01:44:48,333 --> 01:44:50,173
Speaker 2: for a person that watched an insane amount of Big

2094
01:44:50,173 --> 01:44:52,692
Speaker 2: Brother back in the day, but I don't know. I

2095
01:44:52,692 --> 01:44:55,253
Speaker 2: don't know if that then enhanced my life. So yeah,

2096
01:44:55,293 --> 01:44:56,213
Speaker 2: I think you can judge it.

2097
01:44:56,253 --> 01:44:58,253
Speaker 3: The fact that you haven't seen it at all, apart

2098
01:44:58,293 --> 01:45:00,532
Speaker 3: from the WE promos, that probably put you in a

2099
01:45:00,532 --> 01:45:04,012
Speaker 3: good position to judge it. But Jersey Sure is another one.

2100
01:45:04,253 --> 01:45:06,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're a loser if you're watching that terrible

2101
01:45:06,812 --> 01:45:09,492
Speaker 2: You're worse than them are fruitcakes on there?

2102
01:45:09,572 --> 01:45:11,732
Speaker 3: And then Jordie Show really stepped it up and not I'll.

2103
01:45:11,572 --> 01:45:15,213
Speaker 2: Tell you what My dad, great New Zealander Chris, he

2104
01:45:15,572 --> 01:45:17,932
Speaker 2: has spent a lot of his like watching Dad's Army.

2105
01:45:18,772 --> 01:45:19,972
Speaker 3: It's a good show, isn't it.

2106
01:45:19,973 --> 01:45:21,253
Speaker 2: It's a great show Dad's Army.

2107
01:45:21,372 --> 01:45:21,812
Speaker 3: Colsome.

2108
01:45:22,173 --> 01:45:23,572
Speaker 2: I judged him and he said, I've got all this

2109
01:45:23,652 --> 01:45:26,532
Speaker 2: Dad's Army. I'll show you some Dad's Army. Yeah, And

2110
01:45:26,612 --> 01:45:28,492
Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, a terrible show. Some of

2111
01:45:28,532 --> 01:45:30,772
Speaker 2: it's in black and white and you can see that

2112
01:45:30,853 --> 01:45:33,452
Speaker 2: the Office, the British Office comes through the tradition of

2113
01:45:33,532 --> 01:45:36,812
Speaker 2: Dad's Army. That is insane that Dad's Army still stands

2114
01:45:36,853 --> 01:45:37,692
Speaker 2: up as a show.

2115
01:45:37,532 --> 01:45:39,772
Speaker 3: The golden age of TV. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

2116
01:45:39,812 --> 01:45:42,692
Speaker 3: ten eighty What show do you judge someone for watching?

2117
01:45:42,772 --> 01:45:44,892
Speaker 3: Love to Hear from you if you want to send

2118
01:45:44,933 --> 01:45:48,053
Speaker 3: a teach you more than welcome nine two nine two Yeah, and.

2119
01:45:47,772 --> 01:45:50,092
Speaker 2: You're guilty pleasure shows as well, which we could judge

2120
01:45:50,093 --> 01:45:50,333
Speaker 2: you for.

2121
01:45:50,452 --> 01:45:50,652
Speaker 19: Yep.

2122
01:45:50,732 --> 01:45:51,293
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

2123
01:45:51,333 --> 01:45:55,172
Speaker 1: In nineteen to four, have a chat with the lads

2124
01:45:55,293 --> 01:46:00,052
Speaker 1: on eighty ten eighty mad Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons.

2125
01:45:59,572 --> 01:46:03,053
Speaker 3: News Talk z' B News Talks ed B. We're talking

2126
01:46:03,053 --> 01:46:05,612
Speaker 3: about comfort shows and also those shows that you judge

2127
01:46:05,612 --> 01:46:09,013
Speaker 3: people over. I certainly judge anybody who watches Married at

2128
01:46:09,013 --> 01:46:11,372
Speaker 3: First Side Australia and New Zealand. Do we still make it?

2129
01:46:11,412 --> 01:46:13,972
Speaker 2: I don't think we do anymore. No, Hey, this person's

2130
01:46:14,973 --> 01:46:18,972
Speaker 2: a person that's very close to my heart. Red Dwarf

2131
01:46:19,372 --> 01:46:22,132
Speaker 2: Ultimate Comfort TV. Sure, and if you ever watched Red Dwarf, Yes,

2132
01:46:22,333 --> 01:46:25,333
Speaker 2: what a great show that was. My god, this person,

2133
01:46:25,372 --> 01:46:27,692
Speaker 2: Greg says, I judge people who watched one news from

2134
01:46:27,732 --> 01:46:28,972
Speaker 2: Greg fair enough.

2135
01:46:29,133 --> 01:46:29,333
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2136
01:46:29,412 --> 01:46:30,852
Speaker 2: I watched it for the first time the other day

2137
01:46:30,853 --> 01:46:32,732
Speaker 2: when I was on holiday for the first time in

2138
01:46:32,772 --> 01:46:35,052
Speaker 2: a very long time. What do you think. They've definitely

2139
01:46:35,053 --> 01:46:39,013
Speaker 2: decided to push one side of the barrow, as it were.

2140
01:46:40,333 --> 01:46:43,533
Speaker 2: They're all in on one side of every story.

2141
01:46:43,253 --> 01:46:48,572
Speaker 3: That's for sure. The guys Mesh absolute comfort show. Love it,

2142
01:46:48,652 --> 01:46:51,852
Speaker 3: can continuously watch it. Mesh was a fantastic show.

2143
01:46:51,933 --> 01:46:54,213
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, you'd come home from school

2144
01:46:54,213 --> 01:46:57,052
Speaker 2: when they'd play Mash every night at five o'clock. Yes,

2145
01:46:57,253 --> 01:47:00,852
Speaker 2: it would be Mash, then cheers and then people remember

2146
01:47:00,853 --> 01:47:02,452
Speaker 2: what the other shows were that they had just on

2147
01:47:02,492 --> 01:47:05,253
Speaker 2: happy days. They're rotation, so you'd always come home to

2148
01:47:05,293 --> 01:47:08,333
Speaker 2: a sitcom and Mesh. I just loved that show so much.

2149
01:47:08,372 --> 01:47:09,692
Speaker 2: I tried to show it to my kids the other

2150
01:47:09,772 --> 01:47:12,372
Speaker 2: day and I didn't realize how much it was just

2151
01:47:12,412 --> 01:47:15,852
Speaker 2: set and the sets like in a tent. It's a

2152
01:47:15,973 --> 01:47:17,213
Speaker 2: very strange show, and.

2153
01:47:17,173 --> 01:47:20,012
Speaker 3: It got pretty deep, got pretty emotional at times. Another

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Speaker 3: one with a laugh track though, the old Mesh laugh track.

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01:47:22,173 --> 01:47:25,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not in the not in the bloody operating theater, mate.

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01:47:25,173 --> 01:47:27,412
Speaker 2: They turned the laugh track off. Very true, Yeah, they

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01:47:27,452 --> 01:47:31,612
Speaker 2: did to make it more sort of serious. Matthew, You're

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01:47:31,692 --> 01:47:33,052
Speaker 2: guilty pleasure of a TV show.

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01:47:34,333 --> 01:47:38,172
Speaker 12: I love Remor and Snaghead in Wet Draw. That's brilliant.

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01:47:38,572 --> 01:47:39,333
Speaker 12: That was a great show.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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01:47:39,933 --> 01:47:43,173
Speaker 12: Absolutely, the Goodies, the Goodies, the.

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01:47:43,053 --> 01:47:47,293
Speaker 2: Goodies, goody goody, yum yum.

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01:47:47,572 --> 01:47:51,452
Speaker 12: Brilliant show. And I love Seinfeld even now. I can

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01:47:51,492 --> 01:47:53,973
Speaker 12: still flick it on on the old Netflix. If we

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01:47:54,013 --> 01:47:55,932
Speaker 12: were arguing about signing to watch and oh.

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01:47:55,933 --> 01:48:00,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, Seinfeld holds up, you know, ultimate nineties TV show,

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01:48:00,093 --> 01:48:03,093
Speaker 2: but it signs up. Basically every issue in life is

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01:48:03,173 --> 01:48:05,413
Speaker 2: addressed at some point during Seinfeld.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, great characters. I mean you it can

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01:48:08,652 --> 01:48:12,213
Speaker 3: do no wrong. Yeah that's a I mean, evil evil people.

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01:48:12,572 --> 01:48:17,693
Speaker 2: But I'm a great show and cringeworthy.

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01:48:17,772 --> 01:48:20,732
Speaker 12: I have to agree with maps anything reality based, I mean,

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01:48:20,772 --> 01:48:23,212
Speaker 12: why are we watch it? I mean that's just rubbish.

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01:48:24,013 --> 01:48:25,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

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01:48:25,772 --> 01:48:30,892
Speaker 12: Also, any fishing show is a good comfort show. You know,

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01:48:31,053 --> 01:48:31,892
Speaker 12: that's always good.

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01:48:32,732 --> 01:48:36,612
Speaker 2: But I met Watson for you. Thank I you call Matthew.

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01:48:37,293 --> 01:48:40,692
Speaker 3: Go well mate. The show I judge someone for watching

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01:48:40,973 --> 01:48:42,652
Speaker 3: his one news.

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01:48:43,053 --> 01:48:45,532
Speaker 2: Is there's about a thousand people texting that the only

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01:48:45,572 --> 01:48:48,493
Speaker 2: show they judge people watching is one News.

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01:48:49,692 --> 01:48:53,973
Speaker 3: Guys. I froth gun Smoke old time radio show on Spotify,

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01:48:54,053 --> 01:48:56,252
Speaker 3: and I frequently listen to the show when.

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01:48:56,213 --> 01:49:02,572
Speaker 2: I'm driving to work. Gun Smoke Smoke radio show. It's

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01:49:02,612 --> 01:49:05,732
Speaker 2: a radio show, old No. But gun Smoke was definitely

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01:49:05,772 --> 01:49:08,892
Speaker 2: at one point was it's dimly a show We're really

2188
01:49:08,933 --> 01:49:11,013
Speaker 2: going back in time here, But wasn't gun Smoke from

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01:49:11,013 --> 01:49:14,333
Speaker 2: the sixties. It's definitely black and white like gun Smoke.

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01:49:14,412 --> 01:49:14,732
Speaker 3: Come on.

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01:49:15,053 --> 01:49:17,333
Speaker 2: So This Person's Comfort Show first went to air in

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01:49:17,412 --> 01:49:21,452
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five. Wow, it ran from nineteen fifty five

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01:49:21,532 --> 01:49:24,053
Speaker 2: Gun Smoke to nineteen seventy five. That's a good run.

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01:49:24,213 --> 01:49:25,333
Speaker 3: That is a great run.

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01:49:25,772 --> 01:49:29,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, The Games in Kirby Enthusiasm peak television in

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01:49:29,532 --> 01:49:32,052
Speaker 2: my book. Oh yeah, John Clark a great New Zealander.

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01:49:32,452 --> 01:49:34,692
Speaker 2: Of course, fred Dagg was one of his characters. That

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01:49:34,772 --> 01:49:36,732
Speaker 2: show The Games, which what a guess would have been

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01:49:36,853 --> 01:49:39,173
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, that game, that show.

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01:49:39,213 --> 01:49:40,652
Speaker 3: But yeah, of the Games, what's the game?

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01:49:41,213 --> 01:49:43,173
Speaker 2: It was the show that John Clark made as a

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01:49:43,213 --> 01:49:47,293
Speaker 2: build up to the Sydney Olympics. It's a really fantastic show.

2203
01:49:47,372 --> 01:49:50,892
Speaker 2: John Clark's absolute genius. But Kirby Enthusiasm, yeah, I mean

2204
01:49:51,093 --> 01:49:51,652
Speaker 2: next level.

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01:49:52,013 --> 01:49:54,772
Speaker 3: You started watching that, I thought, jeezusiness is extreme, but

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01:49:54,973 --> 01:49:55,333
Speaker 3: it's hard.

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01:49:55,692 --> 01:49:58,533
Speaker 2: It's basically Seinfeuld.

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01:49:58,492 --> 01:50:00,692
Speaker 3: Concentrate Yeah eighteen Seinfeld.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. It's like it's like drinking RaRo without

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01:50:04,213 --> 01:50:08,333
Speaker 2: the water. If you like Seinfeld, George your comfort show

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01:50:08,652 --> 01:50:10,173
Speaker 2: or shows you judge people for watching?

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01:50:11,293 --> 01:50:14,492
Speaker 5: Yeah, good a. I love a bit of Hogan's heroes.

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01:50:14,853 --> 01:50:17,772
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, great pick yeah.

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01:50:17,692 --> 01:50:20,453
Speaker 5: Great one. And another real good one was Blackadder.

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01:50:21,372 --> 01:50:27,012
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, my kids love Blackadder. What's what season black Added?

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01:50:27,093 --> 01:50:29,412
Speaker 2: You reckons the best season? I'm going to go season two?

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01:50:30,213 --> 01:50:33,772
Speaker 5: Oh mate, absolutely, Season two is probably the best season two,

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01:50:33,772 --> 01:50:36,732
Speaker 5: followed by season three. And say the actor on there's

2219
01:50:36,772 --> 01:50:38,892
Speaker 5: probably Hugh Laurie, the Prince Regent.

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01:50:39,133 --> 01:50:39,572
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:50:39,692 --> 01:50:41,892
Speaker 2: I know. I blame my kids because you know, they

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01:50:41,933 --> 01:50:44,892
Speaker 2: knew House and they watched Hugh Laurie just endlessly on

2223
01:50:44,933 --> 01:50:48,012
Speaker 2: House and then went back and showed him on other

2224
01:50:48,093 --> 01:50:51,532
Speaker 2: shows before then, and yeah, blew them man, he's so

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01:50:51,652 --> 01:50:52,812
Speaker 2: great as the stupid Prince.

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01:50:54,173 --> 01:50:56,012
Speaker 5: And I had to agree with the previous callers about

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01:50:56,013 --> 01:50:59,452
Speaker 5: the fishing show. Definitely, definitely a bit of fishing and hunting.

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01:50:59,492 --> 01:51:01,932
Speaker 5: It's a good relaxing watching.

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01:51:02,093 --> 01:51:04,053
Speaker 3: What's the hunting show that you watched, George?

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01:51:05,173 --> 01:51:08,452
Speaker 5: Oh, there's there's quite a few on a There's New

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01:51:08,532 --> 01:51:14,093
Speaker 5: Zealand Hunt Adventurers. Yeah it's quite a good one. Yeah, yeah,

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01:51:14,093 --> 01:51:14,972
Speaker 5: that's a really good show.

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01:51:15,173 --> 01:51:18,772
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, think if you call George I appreciate that.

2234
01:51:19,652 --> 01:51:21,772
Speaker 2: I'm going to kill you if you say another bad

2235
01:51:21,812 --> 01:51:24,333
Speaker 2: thing about maths. It is a good show. It teaches

2236
01:51:24,372 --> 01:51:27,812
Speaker 2: you about life, you muppets. Since this text teaches you.

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01:51:27,812 --> 01:51:31,053
Speaker 3: About life, I suppose you know to stay away from

2238
01:51:31,053 --> 01:51:31,492
Speaker 3: in life.

2239
01:51:31,532 --> 01:51:33,732
Speaker 2: Well we better take two weeks leave after receiving that

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01:51:33,772 --> 01:51:35,492
Speaker 2: death threat. Yeah, we won't be able to appear.

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01:51:36,053 --> 01:51:37,932
Speaker 3: I'm down for that.

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01:51:39,293 --> 01:51:41,612
Speaker 2: You reckon. We can worm our way out of some

2243
01:51:41,853 --> 01:51:43,572
Speaker 2: work for claiming that's a death threat.

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01:51:43,612 --> 01:51:44,772
Speaker 3: I've got some comfort watching.

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01:51:45,213 --> 01:51:48,932
Speaker 2: Some politicians and have done that recently. Phil. We'll get

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01:51:48,933 --> 01:51:51,812
Speaker 2: you in before the break day, get.

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01:51:51,612 --> 01:51:56,253
Speaker 18: A toilet or you Yeah, goody, very very good. Yeah,

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01:51:56,372 --> 01:51:59,492
Speaker 18: they're quite funny this boys. I'll read it off three

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01:51:59,572 --> 01:52:03,772
Speaker 18: shows comfort shows, and then I'll say about the Essex

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01:52:03,853 --> 01:52:06,333
Speaker 18: are the ones that I jog people for and I

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01:52:06,372 --> 01:52:09,293
Speaker 18: remember growing up watching all those great like Dad's Army

2252
01:52:09,333 --> 01:52:13,772
Speaker 18: Oogan Heroes, Happy Day, brilliant stuff. She is and even

2253
01:52:13,812 --> 01:52:16,293
Speaker 18: signed for the degree. But my three comfort shows that

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01:52:16,452 --> 01:52:18,692
Speaker 18: just come to mind would be Married with Children with

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01:52:18,772 --> 01:52:23,772
Speaker 18: old el Bundy. So it was so un PC when

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01:52:23,812 --> 01:52:25,412
Speaker 18: you look back on it was so funny you could

2257
01:52:25,452 --> 01:52:29,772
Speaker 18: laugh at things in those days. There are also the

2258
01:52:29,853 --> 01:52:34,652
Speaker 18: Young Ones and Charlie Yeah yeah, and also Two and

2259
01:52:34,652 --> 01:52:37,173
Speaker 18: a Half Men with Charlie Sheen when he was in it. Again,

2260
01:52:37,293 --> 01:52:38,612
Speaker 18: so funny, so.

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01:52:38,612 --> 01:52:40,492
Speaker 2: Many people texting through two and a half men. That

2262
01:52:40,652 --> 01:52:43,012
Speaker 2: is a much more popular show than I knew it was. Yeah,

2263
01:52:43,173 --> 01:52:46,333
Speaker 2: I mean and ended it ended in tiger blood and

2264
01:52:46,772 --> 01:52:50,452
Speaker 2: all kinds of craziness from from Charlie Sheen.

2265
01:52:50,333 --> 01:52:53,852
Speaker 3: But outstanding here for I mean, it did seem to

2266
01:52:53,853 --> 01:52:56,572
Speaker 3: go down. Hell when who took over from Charlie Sheen.

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01:52:56,612 --> 01:53:00,253
Speaker 3: He's a very famous Yeah that's yeah, the same, the.

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01:53:00,253 --> 01:53:03,333
Speaker 18: Same, Yeah, no, no he didn't. He didn't have it

2269
01:53:03,412 --> 01:53:04,452
Speaker 18: like Charlie Sheen did.

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01:53:05,213 --> 01:53:08,173
Speaker 2: Yep, sorry, sorry for show, that's all right.

2271
01:53:08,452 --> 01:53:10,253
Speaker 18: He didn't ask him, of course, he didn't have it

2272
01:53:10,293 --> 01:53:13,452
Speaker 18: like Charlie Sheen did. And I judge people for watching

2273
01:53:13,492 --> 01:53:17,053
Speaker 18: shows like Real Housewives of Orange County and that sort

2274
01:53:17,093 --> 01:53:21,133
Speaker 18: of bollocks and made an ethic and you know, all

2275
01:53:21,133 --> 01:53:24,732
Speaker 18: that sort of all that sort of I'd like to say, crap,

2276
01:53:24,772 --> 01:53:27,692
Speaker 18: if it's all right, but and married, we're married with

2277
01:53:28,013 --> 01:53:31,492
Speaker 18: married at first site and nets or those realities, especially

2278
01:53:31,572 --> 01:53:34,692
Speaker 18: those Real Housewives of Orange and Hollywood house Wives, and

2279
01:53:34,692 --> 01:53:38,133
Speaker 18: that you think these is these they got so much

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01:53:38,213 --> 01:53:40,852
Speaker 18: money that they can light their smokes with it, you know, And.

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01:53:41,173 --> 01:53:42,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Phil thank you for your call.

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01:53:43,093 --> 01:53:45,133
Speaker 3: Just on those reality TV shows, it is I mean,

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01:53:45,173 --> 01:53:47,092
Speaker 3: it just feels like they jump the shark every single

2284
01:53:47,133 --> 01:53:50,052
Speaker 3: episode because they try and get more and more extreme

2285
01:53:50,093 --> 01:53:52,452
Speaker 3: and I just can't buy it. Like Maths Married at

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01:53:52,452 --> 01:53:54,932
Speaker 3: first site, they try and make it more extreme each season.

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01:53:54,973 --> 01:53:58,133
Speaker 3: If you love Maths, why tell me nine two nine

2288
01:53:58,213 --> 01:54:00,093
Speaker 3: two text through? What do you get out of it?

2289
01:54:00,093 --> 01:54:01,492
Speaker 3: It's like cocaine for some people.

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01:54:01,572 --> 01:54:04,173
Speaker 2: What does this text mean? The Muppets? You muppets? That's

2291
01:54:04,173 --> 01:54:04,692
Speaker 2: from squid.

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01:54:05,013 --> 01:54:09,333
Speaker 3: Oh fear harsh, but fear right.

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01:54:09,572 --> 01:54:11,372
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. One hundred percent agree with this

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01:54:11,492 --> 01:54:14,692
Speaker 2: text here. Father Teed is great comfort show boy, oh boys,

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01:54:14,772 --> 01:54:17,053
Speaker 2: Father Tied a good show if you can winkle that

2296
01:54:17,093 --> 01:54:20,213
Speaker 2: show out and tragically Father Ted himself the actor who

2297
01:54:20,213 --> 01:54:22,812
Speaker 2: played and passed away when it was absolutely at his prime.

2298
01:54:23,053 --> 01:54:25,932
Speaker 2: But Father Tied is such an outrageously good show.

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01:54:26,013 --> 01:54:28,093
Speaker 3: Ye makes you feel good? Eight hundred and eighty ten

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01:54:28,133 --> 01:54:30,052
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It's eight to four.

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01:54:31,532 --> 01:54:35,013
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:54:35,253 --> 01:54:36,253
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:54:36,453 --> 01:54:40,253
Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talgs EDB on

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01:54:40,373 --> 01:54:41,093
Speaker 8: newstalg Z.

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Speaker 3: EDB good afternoon. We've been talking about comfort shows on TV.

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01:54:45,173 --> 01:54:47,653
Speaker 3: Couple of text. Here come on, guys, comfort TV really

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01:54:47,693 --> 01:54:49,413
Speaker 3: life as short as it is, and you wish your

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01:54:49,413 --> 01:54:50,973
Speaker 3: life sitting in front of TV. Get out there and

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01:54:51,093 --> 01:54:53,013
Speaker 3: love life. Greg, Oh, we're gonna have to watch some

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01:54:53,053 --> 01:54:55,573
Speaker 3: t Yeah, exactly. Our ghosts easy to watch.

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01:54:55,613 --> 01:54:58,973
Speaker 2: No man with the fantastic Rose McIvor a KeyWe she's

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01:54:59,013 --> 01:55:00,012
Speaker 2: done very well in the States.

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01:55:00,053 --> 01:55:02,173
Speaker 3: Yep, someone agrees with you. The US Office. I have

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01:55:02,253 --> 01:55:07,932
Speaker 3: watched all four seasons, all seasons rather four times, and

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01:55:08,053 --> 01:55:12,093
Speaker 3: the most the ultimate comfort TV show for me all

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01:55:12,133 --> 01:55:14,413
Speaker 3: time just can't be beat as Country Calendar.

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01:55:14,493 --> 01:55:16,213
Speaker 2: Well there you go, so here we go. Here's the

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01:55:16,253 --> 01:55:19,253
Speaker 2: top five. I've collated the votes the top five comfort

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01:55:19,253 --> 01:55:22,053
Speaker 2: shows that came through on nine two ninety two, two

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01:55:22,093 --> 01:55:26,733
Speaker 2: and a half Men, The Office, Friends, Country Calendar go,

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01:55:26,933 --> 01:55:29,493
Speaker 2: Kiwi and then and Seinfeld at number one, great, last

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01:55:29,533 --> 01:55:33,053
Speaker 2: they go, and the most judged for watching and expectedly,

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01:55:33,333 --> 01:55:34,733
Speaker 2: well expectedly was Maths.

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01:55:34,853 --> 01:55:37,453
Speaker 3: Very good. Well that is us for today. So time

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01:55:37,493 --> 01:55:39,013
Speaker 3: for you to wrap up, Matt, and don't make it

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01:55:39,093 --> 01:55:41,453
Speaker 3: up this time because yesterday you did say the met

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01:55:41,453 --> 01:55:43,293
Speaker 3: and Jury show, So no more there, please.

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01:55:43,413 --> 01:55:44,533
Speaker 2: I don't know why I call it the Mett and

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01:55:44,573 --> 01:55:48,653
Speaker 2: Jerry Show. Okay, thanks to all you great New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: for listening this afternoon. The complete Matt and Tyler Afternoon's

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