1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: So we have a little bit more slashing of red 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: tape for homeowners. Government has decided you're going to be 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: able to build yourself a single story building under ten 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: square meters, so think a small garage or shed or 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: something like that on the property on the property boundary 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: without any mandatory set back distance. For buildings that are 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: slightly bigger ten to thirty square meters, the mandatory set 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: back distance will be reduced to one meter. Previously you 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: had to get consent for that kind of stuff. Chris 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Pink is the Minister for Building in Construction High Chris, Hello, Heather. 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: How far out would you have had to build it 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: in the past. 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the size of the shed, but 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: the usual rule is that the height of the shed 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: dictates the distance that you need to have set back 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: from the boundary or another building. So just making it 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: a bit more clear cuts and straightforward, as well as 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: a bit freer for people to do what they like 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: in their own backyard. 20 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Right, So, if you're building a shed that I don't know, 21 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: let's say, is a couple of meters high, and sometimes 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: you do, then it's a couple of meters back from 23 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: the fences. 24 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: It currently yes, but we're going to do a blanket rule. 25 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: If it's less than ten square meters, so obviously floor area, 26 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: then you can go right up to the fence and 27 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: you know, up to thirty square meters that becomes one meter. 28 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: What was the justification for that setback, Well. 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: There's a reasonable point to be made about fire safety. 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: But when you have a blanket roll and you don't 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: think about the likelihood of something that's going to start 32 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: a fight in a very small structure, I mean under 33 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: you know, up to ten square meters you can barely 34 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: fill a box of matches in and you're certainly not 35 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: having heavy machinery or people living their best life in there. 36 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: So you know, just a bit of a proportionate approach 37 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: is actually the smallers, the less risk its and therefore 38 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: the closer you can get to the boundary. And obviously 39 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 2: in a world where people are trying to do more 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: with less space, that kind of makes sense for the 41 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: modern age. 42 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: So you don't have to get building consent now. But 43 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: do you still have the file paperwork and stuff. 44 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: No, so totally. 45 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Paperwork free, like the count doesn't need to know a 46 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: thing about it. You just put up your she had 47 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: in a way you go. 48 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we happen. I mean, to be fair, we're not 49 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: we're not changing anything that regard. But a previous rule 50 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: change from a while back had been that you don't 51 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: need a building consents and therefore to go through the 52 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: full pilavora of records and so on, and if you're 53 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: under thirty square meters. 54 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: I read that this came through the tip line. Are 55 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: you getting a fairly decent sized level of kind of 56 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: suggestions through that tip line? 57 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been some really good ones actually, I mean 58 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: this is one that caught my eye, but actually also 59 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: caught David Seymour's eye. So today's announcement was a bit 60 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: of a joint venture. Who as regulation minister, you know, 61 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: controlling the tip line or listening carefully to what's out there, 62 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: and it just so happened to fall within my remit 63 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: as building and construction. So we both rocked up to 64 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: the site where someone had dubbed themselves in for having 65 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: an unlawful shed and we thought we could make the 66 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: problem go away. So we did. 67 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Have you got eyes on what's coming through that tip line? 68 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 2: I don't as a matter of course, but when they 69 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: fall within one of my portfolios, and building and construction 70 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: tends to be the one that you get a lot 71 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: of these niggles and inconsistencies and uncertainties. Then then you know, 72 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: David and his team give me head up, which is 73 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: really good. 74 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Has he given you a heads up on any other ones? 75 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: No, but other ministers who are in relevant areas would, 76 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a cleverative effort because we're on 77 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: the same page. You know, we've got to, you know, 78 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: unblock the difficulty that people have living their best life, 79 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: not doing anyhow to anyone else. 80 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: I'm nosy because I'm really enjoying this type line, so 81 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: I want to know everything. Anyway. Listen, Chris, we have 82 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: we've got a bit of a construction construction slump going on, 83 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: and apparently it's we're now in a renewed slump. Are 84 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: you worried about what's going on here? 85 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obviously been a really tough time for the 86 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: last few years, so I mean, there's nothing new about 87 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: that within within the last few years. It's not that 88 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: the middle of this year is necessarily worse in the 89 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: middle last year, but the difficulty has been that people 90 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: had hoped and expected that by now we would be 91 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: out of it. So we've really stabilized at a low 92 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: level and in turn having cycles of boom and bust 93 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: isn't new for the sector, but it's been a long 94 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: one and so that's why we're really keen. Apart from 95 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: getting the macro economic settings right with inflation under control, 96 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: interst rates coming down and all the things that then 97 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: stimulate people to want to be able to build, we 98 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: also know we've got to make the rules easier for 99 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: people when they do get to that place. Otherwise we'll 100 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: just prolong the effect because it will take that much 101 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: longer for people to get the consents and do the 102 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: build good stuff. 103 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Chris, Thanks very much, Chris Pink, Minister for Building and Construction. 104 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 105 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 106 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.