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Speaker 1: What big news, bold opinions, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a.

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Speaker 2: Veda Live the Age You Feel News Talk, said Ben.

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Speaker 3: Well, you welcome today's stuff that doesn't work and what

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Speaker 3: to do about it. Getting tough with young criminals and

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Speaker 3: getting tamped with downtown crime as the cops hit the

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Speaker 3: streets in larger numbers. We got Jetstar expanding their services.

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Speaker 3: We got the lads doing the sport in the commentary box,

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold and se Price. They rock up as Wellhasky,

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Speaker 3: my New Week, welcome to it. Seven past six. So

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Speaker 3: here's the real problem with the ferry running at ground.

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Speaker 3: It comes in the same week as the plane not working,

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Speaker 3: and it came in the same week as the transmission

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Speaker 3: tower fell over. It's pathetic. This country is on its knees.

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Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. As we said last week. The upside is

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Speaker 3: it might just be so embarrassing we actually now get

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Speaker 3: around to doing something about it. Key, we Rail need

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Speaker 3: an investigation into how they've run the business. I note sadly.

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Speaker 3: Helen Clark yet again weighed in via social media with

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Speaker 3: another of a petty barbs about canceling the ferry contract.

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Speaker 3: What we need at this point in time are adults

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Speaker 3: read the papers that have been released publicly. Bewe in

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Speaker 3: kie Rail and Grant Robertson even he was aghast at

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Speaker 3: the blowout and the ferry budget, despite Kibi Rail over

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Speaker 3: and over again reassuring him their latest estimate was the

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Speaker 3: final figure until it wasn't. When Grant Robertson is a

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Speaker 3: ghast to to blowout, you know it's gargantuan. So this

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Speaker 3: is as much on Kiwi Rail as it is on

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Speaker 3: any government. But you can only embarrass yourself so much

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Speaker 3: and so often before that becomes part of the country's psyche.

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Speaker 3: A recession is one thing, and it's outworking has an

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Speaker 3: effect on us all, both physically and psychologically. But you

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Speaker 3: want to, in some way at all times, feel there's

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Speaker 3: something about this place that is decent and proper and rewarding.

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Speaker 3: You want to feel good about your country. The Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister can't travel the world promoting business and saying we're

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Speaker 3: open when the planes don't fly and the ferry runs

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Speaker 3: into stuff and the powers out because the towers fall.

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Speaker 3: Labor we must do better. We have to wake up

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Speaker 3: to the fact this country has in many respects been

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Speaker 3: run into the ground. It looks increasingly third world. The

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Speaker 3: fear is the battle between the size of those who

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Speaker 3: care and those who don't. Is not that obvious to

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Speaker 3: me at the moment. The fact we can be in

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Speaker 3: this miss in all former MPs can do as snipe

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Speaker 3: is an increasing worry. We are reaping what we sowed.

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Speaker 3: If this doesn't strike you as an emergency, we are

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Speaker 3: in deeper trouble than I thought.

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Speaker 2: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: So let's start with the UK rice, where we have

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Speaker 3: yet another Tory been questioned about bidding on the election date.

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Speaker 4: But there is a system, there is a process. The

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Speaker 4: Gambling Commission are doing the investigation that is appropriate if

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Speaker 4: people have acted in appropriately. I'm not going to defend that.

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Speaker 4: I'm were happy to condemn.

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Speaker 3: That labor and doing the abustro pretend this isn't a

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Speaker 3: poor gone conclusion.

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Speaker 5: I speak to a lot of people who've yet to

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Speaker 5: make their minds up in the seats where we need

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Speaker 5: to win. But what the Tories are doing, very very

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Speaker 5: cynically is a vault suppression strategy. They want people to

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Speaker 5: think this is all in the bag, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 5: You don't need to come out and involved.

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Speaker 3: Other problem the to is here as the spect of

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Speaker 3: Nigel Faraje ending up running them.

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Speaker 6: The kind of snake oil that Nigel Farage is peddling,

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Speaker 6: in my view, has no place in our democratic politics.

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Speaker 6: I hope we will not hear anymore from any of

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Speaker 6: my colleagues in the Conservative parties suggesting that there is

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Speaker 6: a route for Nigel Farage into the Conservative Party.

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Speaker 3: Then step side first of the two de bites this week,

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Speaker 3: of course, buden by Trump, this looks to be the

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Speaker 3: way the dams are going to play it.

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Speaker 7: The fact of the matter is that the sky is

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Speaker 7: blue sometimes and Donald Trump is a convicted felon, and

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Speaker 7: the American people have to sit in that for a second.

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Speaker 7: The person who wants to be president has to go

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Speaker 7: sit with this probation officer before he actually goes to

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Speaker 7: the debate. And so it is just a fact.

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Speaker 3: Frank Luntz, who's one to be higher profile polsters, he's

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Speaker 3: got worries.

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Speaker 8: And so I'm going to be watching not just for

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Speaker 8: the cute quip or trying to figure out who won

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Speaker 8: or lost, but I'm going to be watching American reactions

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Speaker 8: and whether or not this adds to our discontent and

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Speaker 8: our division or whether it begins to heal it.

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Speaker 3: And of course they have the weather New Mexico pretty

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Speaker 3: hot right now.

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Speaker 9: It's been a hell of a week here between dust, heat, flooding.

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Speaker 7: We've got flooding a vacuums in the north where one

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Speaker 7: of the largest wildfires.

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Speaker 9: In the history of the US. It's been really tough

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Speaker 9: on the Mexicans.

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Speaker 3: In true French style, we have a protest upset at

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Speaker 3: the cost of cleaning up the Sene River at two

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Speaker 3: point eight billion dollars in counting. The mass protest has

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Speaker 3: been planned for people to come down and do a

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Speaker 3: pooh in the river. Latest report out over the weekend

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Speaker 3: tells us the water was still too dirty to swim,

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Speaker 3: and this is five weeks up from the Olympics. Of course,

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Speaker 3: slogan on the protest as website says they have plunged

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Speaker 3: us into shit and now it's their turn to plunge

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Speaker 3: into our shit. Today was supposed to be the day

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Speaker 3: the Paris mayor said she would swim in the sign

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't clean enough, so she didn't. Let as

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Speaker 3: news of the world in ninety seconds. That's, by the way,

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Speaker 3: just briefly, the guy's name on the beating scandal's guy

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Speaker 3: called Nick Mason. He's the fourth senior Conservative now he's

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Speaker 3: the party's chief data officer, allegedly placed dozens of bets

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Speaker 3: could have generated hundreds of thousands of pounds of winnings.

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Speaker 3: He says it's not appropriate to comment, no kidding. He's

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Speaker 3: also a Conservative counselor in Hertfordshire. By the way, he's

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Speaker 3: now taken leave of absence from the Tory Party roll

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Speaker 3: eleven days from the election. So I mean you couldn't

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Speaker 3: You couldn't draw up a bigger mess if you set

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Speaker 3: up to draw up a big mess.

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Speaker 2: Twelve past six the Mike Costing Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Democracy Watch Malawi has got themselves a new vice president

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Speaker 3: over the weekend, goy called Lucy Michael. Lucy, he's been

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Speaker 3: swornen because the other guy, Chealma you remember, died in

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Speaker 3: the plane crash the other day. Anyway, USI is a

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Speaker 3: former comedian turn politician, very Zelensky, and that has Malawian's

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Speaker 3: divine and of course wondering whether he's up for the

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Speaker 3: job at the same year. So he's been sworn and

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Speaker 3: we wish him well. Fifteen past six and Jmi wel

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Speaker 3: Hendrew Keller had good Monday morning. Yeah, very good morning

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Speaker 3: to you mate. Now we've got international reads on services

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Speaker 3: and manufacturing and they seem to be going one way

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Speaker 3: as a post to New Zealand, which is going the other.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, at a little bit mixed with shifting the focus

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Speaker 10: offshore this morning. We've had some pretty poor shall we

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Speaker 10: use the word poor data recently. Yeah, a week or

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Speaker 10: so ago we had our PMI and PSIS, which is

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Speaker 10: our services and manufacturing sector barometers. Yeah, they were awful.

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Speaker 10: of the economy post the GFC. That's the sort of

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Speaker 10: space we're in. So the PMI was forty three, the

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Speaker 10: pm I was forty seven point two, say, both very

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Speaker 10: week and within them the forward looking indicators like new

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Speaker 10: So late last week we got an update on these

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Speaker 10: indicators from around the world. And the issue here, Mike,

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Speaker 10: out of sync. So we've got an update on this

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Speaker 10: relative performance. So the US S and P global PMI

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Speaker 10: fifty one point three. The services PMI fifty five point one.

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Speaker 10: That ticked up to a twenty six month high. Now,

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Speaker 10: while this is potentially not what the Fed wants to see,

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Speaker 10: report was evidence of price pressures easing and colling. So

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Speaker 10: so this sort of soft landing scenario unlikely as it seems,

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Speaker 10: could still occur. Not so good in Europe's slump and

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Speaker 10: said an expansion. France looking particularly weak. You've now got

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Speaker 10: to overlay political uncertainty there as well. Japan also a

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Speaker 10: little bit weaker, services sector dipping into.

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Speaker 3: A contraction for the first time in about.

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Speaker 10: Two years, albeit just forty nine point eight, and the UK,

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Speaker 10: both above fifty. So there's evidence of softening numbers around

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Speaker 10: the world, but the US stands out as being much

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Speaker 10: more resilient than other economies, and our numbers still look

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Speaker 10: grim by comparison.

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Speaker 3: Yes they do. And part of that story is, of

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Speaker 3: course Retail and Catman do cam in g They've had

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, but it's a roller coaster that's just not

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Speaker 10: there's no uphillberts, it's all downhill bits. So another earning

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Speaker 10: when you get one of these, you're often looking for

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Speaker 10: a situation update from Catman do not. Unexpectedly sales are

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Speaker 10: softer than they had been expecting. So you're looking at

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Speaker 10: financial year. Their financial year goes to thirty one July. Look,

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Speaker 10: Their sales have been an improvement on the first half

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Speaker 10: sales trend which was very weak, So the second half

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Speaker 10: a slower start to the key winter promotional period. First

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Speaker 10: are eleven and a half percent below last year. That's

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Speaker 10: quite a big chunk. New Zealand is notably weaker than Australia.

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Speaker 10: Look Catman Do maybe losing the competitive RaSE to people

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Speaker 10: like mack Pack, but the retail environments is very tough

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Speaker 10: and not going to turn around the short term. Ripkel

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Speaker 10: continues to be a bit more resilient than the Capmen

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Speaker 10: Do and Obos brands. They're so second half so far

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Speaker 10: five point nine percent fall in sales, but Obo's down

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Speaker 10: over twenty one percent. They're now expecting full your earnings

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Speaker 10: to be approximately fifty MILI. That's below recent analyst forecasts.

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Speaker 10: They've had to go to their banks and renegotiate their

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Speaker 10: banking covenants share prices at forty cents. It's down ah

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Speaker 10: about forty seven cents.

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Speaker 3: So far this year. Give us the other numbers well.

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Speaker 10: The Dale Jones on Friday we went up, went up fifteen points,

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Speaker 10: was not much thirty nine thousand, one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 10: The S and P five hundred was down small five

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Speaker 10: small point one eight percent. Seventeen thousand, six hundred and

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Speaker 3: Beer the mic Hosking Breakfast Mike I was on the

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Speaker 3: Richard Donold whether shortly meantime Infrastructure New Zealand you can't make.

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Speaker 3: You can't make the past week up, between the planes

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Speaker 3: doesn't it. Infrastructure New Zealand's Michelle and McCormick's with us

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Speaker 3: on all of this. Michelle, good morning.

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Speaker 14: To you, Good morning Mite.

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Speaker 3: Do you find it embarrassing extremely?

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Speaker 9: I think it's terrible for New Zealand's reputation, and you

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm hugely concerning.

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Speaker 3: How bad do you reckon it is? If you peel

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Speaker 9: I think it's right across our infrastructure sectors. And I

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Speaker 9: huge environmental damage. It's yeah, usually worrying.

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Speaker 3: I've suggested, and I'm interested to see whether you agree

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Speaker 3: it's got so bad at least we're now going to

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Speaker 9: And it's good to hear that they're meeting to discuss

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Speaker 9: the assets is really coming home to roost.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you do. When you say you've got individual problems,

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Speaker 3: you've got individual sets of circumstances. Then if somebody wants

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and maybe a lack of skills and knowledge. Our

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Speaker 3: All of these are very good questions. Are you remotely

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Speaker 9: I think we can get on the path to doing that,

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Speaker 9: but it's not going to happen overnight. It really needs

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Speaker 3: Well, said Michelle, appreciate it. Michelle mcormick, who's with the

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Speaker 3: Now's the time to jump. Go see your Jaguar retailer

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Speaker 3: own a piece of history. Fixed interest grate, zero percent

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Speaker 3: payments on the first and second anniversaries if you loan.

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Speaker 3: The exclusive deal valid only until the end of June,

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Speaker 3: so you haven't got long now June thirty or while

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Speaker 3: stocks last. And of course, all vehicles purchased from a

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Speaker 3: Jaguar retailaylor will be maintained through the retailer network, superior

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Speaker 3: servicing and customer support. Terms and conditions apply. But contact

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Speaker 3: your nearest retailer for more information on your new Jaguar.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance.

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Speaker 2: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Mike, why is the government expected to buy new fairies?

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Speaker 3: Quey Rail are a commercial entity like Brubridge and near

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Let me come back to that, Mike, Give

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Speaker 3: it to me GOALRHS caunt escape conviction today. Can she

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Speaker 3: another good question? Or come back to that? In the

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Speaker 3: second state side Richard Arnold, Good morning, call me old

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Speaker 3: fashioned Richard. But I'll tell you what I'm actually excited

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Speaker 3: about Friday, our time.

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Speaker 16: It's going to be a key moment. I think there's

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Speaker 16: no doubt about that. Whatever people think about the two

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Speaker 16: competing presidential contenders, or even about the whole process of

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Speaker 16: political debates of Biden and Trump. Encounter would be the

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Speaker 16: first time these two men have been in the same

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Speaker 16: room since this I'm not going to answer the question

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Speaker 16: a general.

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Speaker 11: Rasal left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: One of the rowdy clashes from their last session October

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Speaker 16: twenty twenty, the debate which took the political process down

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Speaker 16: to a sort of new low Ebb. Back then, even

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Speaker 16: the moderator was brought into the mayhem. Here was Chris

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Speaker 16: Wallace trying to bring some calm to the situation.

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Speaker 17: Yes, it's a very important to understood.

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Speaker 16: No the answer to the no Ukraine, No, sir.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: So now they're older and wiser, right, Well, not exactly,

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Speaker 16: says Trump recently about his opponent Trucker. Joe's going to

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Speaker 16: a log cabin to study prepare.

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Speaker 6: No, he didn't.

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Speaker 17: He's sleeping now because they want to get him good

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Speaker 17: and strong.

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Speaker 11: So a little before debate time he gets they're shot.

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Speaker 16: The well so called log cabin is the presidential retreat camp, David.

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Speaker 16: We're not talking about the Udi bomber here. The shot

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Speaker 16: in the bleep is the unfounded Trump claim that during

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Speaker 16: the last State of the Union Biden was quote jacked

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Speaker 16: up in quote was that due they to cocaine lying

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Speaker 16: around the White House. Meantime, Biden is amping up his

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Speaker 16: critique of Trump as well. Here's something of what he's saying,

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Speaker 16: the threat that.

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Speaker 17: Trump poses greater in his second term than those first.

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Speaker 17: It's clearly when he lost in twenty twenty, something literally

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Speaker 17: snapped in the sky. Now he's running again, and it's

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Speaker 17: clearly on hand.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, so there should be a calm, respectful exchange of ideas.

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Speaker 16: Right Well, that is not what debate hosts the and

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Speaker 16: NDA is concerned about. They have Jake Tapper and Dana

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Speaker 16: Basher's moderators in a series of new debates rules in place,

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Speaker 16: including no audience members in the environment and Mike Cutting

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Speaker 16: switches to the two presidential one of his own shout

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Speaker 16: over the top of each other for about ninety percent

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Speaker 16: of the time. Meanwhile, Trump says his VP presidential pick

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Speaker 16: will be in the House. In the Atlanta studio, he's

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Speaker 16: saying that he hasn't even told this person person, but

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Speaker 16: he says, in my mind, yeah, I've chosen somebody. Most

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Speaker 16: sources suggest it's either Doug Berg and the North Dakota

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Speaker 16: governor who were well. He used to say he would

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Speaker 16: never do business with Trump, but now he says.

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Speaker 15: When he makes that decision is solely up to him,

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Speaker 15: and he's the guy that controls the criteria.

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Speaker 11: If there's never been a better politician, a better debate,

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Speaker 11: a better.

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Speaker 16: Communicator, really not Reagan, not jfk and JD. Vince, the

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Speaker 16: Ohio junior senator who says he is a certainly up

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Speaker 16: for the VP job and Hissingking. At least that's what

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Speaker 16: he's saying now in earlier times not so. As GOO

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Speaker 16: Fox News hosts Britt Beer remind Advance about some of

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Speaker 16: his previous comments about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 18: You said, I've never I'm a never Trump guy, never

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Speaker 18: liked him, terrible candidate, idiot if you voted for him,

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Speaker 18: might be America's hitler, might be a cynical ahole, cultural heroine,

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Speaker 18: noxious and reprehensible. Those are things that the left is

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Speaker 18: going to come after you and they're probably going to

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Speaker 18: be put in ads. Should you be chosen as the

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Speaker 18: VP pick.

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Speaker 11: How do you deal with them?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think the simple answer is you've got to

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Speaker 18: respect the American people enough to.

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Speaker 2: Just level with him. Look, I was wrong about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Wow again, what's the weather forecast?

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Speaker 16: By the way, blistering hot, horrible deathifying. Yeah, the suven

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Speaker 16: season up here is gicked off with what Nick calling

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Speaker 16: a heat dome. This is something of a new term

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Speaker 16: describing how heat alerts are hitting over one hundred million

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Speaker 16: folks in this country at the moment, will continue to

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Speaker 16: set records for some days. They expect. Boiling temps are

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Speaker 16: affecting many sports, including Washington and Baltimore.

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Speaker 14: The thing I can tell you don't come outside.

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Speaker 16: Well it used to be, you know, I go out

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Speaker 16: and have a barbecue. We'll get to the beach if

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Speaker 16: you have the opportunity.

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Speaker 14: But no.

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Speaker 16: Bill nine, who's been known on television here as the

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Speaker 16: science guy, says.

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Speaker 11: It's the beginning of the new normal. The latest research

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Speaker 11: is that there's not a turning point or a tipping point,

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Speaker 11: or a knee in the curve. It's just going to

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Speaker 11: get hotter and hotter and worse and worse and more

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Speaker 11: and more extreme.

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Speaker 16: Well that's encouraging, isn't There are problems also in Iowa,

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Speaker 16: North Dakota and Minnesota. As I say, blistering temps all

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Speaker 16: over much of the USA.

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Speaker 3: Right, stay cool and we'll see Wednesday. Richard Islands sight

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Speaker 3: Side nine to seven.

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Speaker 2: The Mist Breakfast with Bailey News Dogs.

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Speaker 3: Mike can don't ever get the bridge at the viaduct

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Speaker 3: close for months and helping destroy businesses through lack of access.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that happening in Singapore's a very good point. I

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Speaker 3: got caught up with that on the weekend. I didn't

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Speaker 3: realize I've been caught up with it until I was

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Speaker 3: caught up in it, but we were. It's a kilometer

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Speaker 3: and a half. My daughter told me she's staying at

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Speaker 3: a hotel. She wanted to go to a restaurant on

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Speaker 3: the other side of the thing. Couldn't cross the bridge,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. Walked around to kill a meter and a

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Speaker 3: half as opposed to about three hundred meters if you

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Speaker 3: walk across the bridge, So kill a meter and a half.

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Speaker 3: There a kill a meter and a half back, and

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Speaker 3: it's just ridiculous. Mike, Why is the government expected to

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Speaker 3: buy a new ferries, Kiwi rail or a commercial entity.

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Speaker 3: Yes they are, but they're not making any money. They

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Speaker 3: don't have the three and a half billion dollars. Do

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Speaker 3: be aware, and this is an individual aspect of the

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Speaker 3: story that project their whole. Let's get some new fairies

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Speaker 3: and build some new warves. That started out as a

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty million dollar job. It was at

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Speaker 3: three point four or five billion before Grant Robertson. Even

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Speaker 3: Grant Robertson blew Is lit at that. That's how bad

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Speaker 3: things were getting. They don't have the money is what

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Speaker 3: it boils down to. And when government needed is don't

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Speaker 3: have the money, they go to the government, Mike, give

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Speaker 3: it to me. Goldris Cart escape conviction, Well she can,

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Speaker 3: of course, if you don't have a record, you can

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Speaker 3: be discharged without conviction. She's pled guilty. That'll be taken

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Speaker 3: into account. But I mean, I would be astonished if

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Speaker 3: she got off with nothing. But it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 3: see what's handed down today. Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Bill, the ins and the Outs, it's the Fizz on

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Speaker 1: the Mike Husking Breakfast on News Talk sed.

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Speaker 3: B Now from Zesbury Forecast for the export season. News

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Speaker 3: is good. Broadly speaking, we're on track to deliver our

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Speaker 3: largest crop ever. Goal is to do four and a

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Speaker 3: half billion in global sales this season four and a

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Speaker 3: half billions good bucks. Last year was three nine nine

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Speaker 3: yields okay for twenty four to twenty five are they're

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Speaker 3: going to pack one hundred and ninety seven million trays.

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Speaker 3: Last season was a record for tray returns, especially for gold,

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Speaker 3: so they were always expected to come down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But the per hector returns for Green key we freu

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Speaker 3: it expected to be at record level, so that's good.

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Speaker 3: So per tray in March, the forecast for Green was

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Speaker 3: seven to eight fifty. Now it's between seven to fifty

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Speaker 3: and eight to fifty a little bit of an increase midpoint.

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Speaker 3: Per hector midpoint increases from eighty three to eighty six

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars gold per tray price has dropped a little bit,

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Speaker 3: ten to eleven fifty down to ten to eleven twenty

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Speaker 3: five smidge down. Per hector midpoint has dropped from one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five thousand one hundred and fifty two perjected.

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Speaker 3: I don't have anything on the reds. We had some

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Speaker 3: reds that had reds over the Weekend's very small market

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Speaker 3: reds at the moment, but it's going to go gangbusters.

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Speaker 3: What I couldn't understand at the weekend. Kathy Hokel, who

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Speaker 3: was the New York Governor, signed the bill on social

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Speaker 3: media and so it's the Safe for Kids Act. Requires

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Speaker 3: social media companies to restrict addictive feeds for social media

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Speaker 3: users under the age of eighteen. Also bar notifications from

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Speaker 3: social media platforms related to the feeds between the hours

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Speaker 3: of midnight and six unless they've got parental consent. Would

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Speaker 3: require new age verification and parental consent tools to be

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Speaker 3: sent by the state Attorney General. So I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: the story and I'm thinking, what the obvious what's the

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Speaker 3: obvious question? Now you're testing my technical expertise or lack

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Speaker 3: of here, But tell me how a tech company does

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Speaker 3: what they normally do, except all of a sudden, for

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Speaker 3: kids in New York. Tell me technically how that works.

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Speaker 3: And of course, as far as I can work out,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't. So you're sending out all your normal feeds,

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Speaker 3: doing all your normal things, except if the kid happens

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Speaker 3: to be in Manhattan, that magically doesn't go through to

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Speaker 3: their phone anymore. How does that actually work? And why

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Speaker 3: did nobody ask those most obvious of questions when a

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Speaker 3: politician simply signing pieces of paper and think they're going

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Speaker 3: to make a difference. Right, Let's talk about fairies and

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Speaker 3: farmic and stuff like that with David Seymour after the News,

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Speaker 3: which is next.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews, the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate differently since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, news togs had been.

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Speaker 3: Well seven past seven of the government didn't have enough

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Speaker 3: on its hand with the economic plight that we're currently

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Speaker 3: grinding our way through. Then a whole bunch of stuff

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Speaker 3: fell over or fell apart, and the last week pylons

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Speaker 3: to planes to fairies. Interestingly, the government ran for the

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Speaker 3: hills a bit over this one. Transport Minister sime and

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Speaker 3: Brown and want to talk state owned enterprises and Minister

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Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith didn't want to. Minister of Finance Nikola Willison

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Speaker 3: and want to talk. Fortunately, Associate Finance Minister David Seymour

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Speaker 3: does and he's with us. Good morning, good morning, way

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Speaker 3: this faery business over the weekend, did you have a

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Speaker 3: sinking feeling by the time the power pylon fell over

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Speaker 3: and the plane didn't take off and the ferry hit

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Speaker 3: the wall, that there's something a bit wrong with this country.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it feels like we're a nation and decline and

652
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Speaker 19: the question is are we going to tweak it or

653
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Speaker 19: are we going to change it. I've long taken the

654
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Speaker 19: view that if we keep doing what we've done, then

655
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Speaker 19: we're going to get the same results. And instead of saying, well,

656
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Speaker 19: you know, we'll have a different person in charge of

657
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Speaker 19: Kiwi Rail, we'll have maybe some different theories purchased by

658
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Speaker 19: Kiwi Rail. The real question is how one private business

659
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Speaker 19: can run successfully for twenty years and no tax payer

660
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Speaker 19: money and a government business constantly requires bailouts. And maybe

661
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Speaker 19: that's telling us something about our future.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the chairman's already gone to the whole board

663
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Speaker 3: need to go? Does the whole thing need to be

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Speaker 3: refreshed and or does the Fury service need to be

665
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Speaker 3: run by someone completely different?

666
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Speaker 19: Well, you can keep changing the debt chairs, but unfortunately

667
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 19: you've got to ask the question, should private enterprise that's

668
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Speaker 19: been successful be either contracted the service or just take

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Speaker 19: it over completely instead of trying to make something that

670
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Speaker 19: can never work work against all odds.

671
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Speaker 3: So if you go private, do you have support within

672
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Speaker 3: the government to get that across the line or is

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Speaker 3: that going to be political?

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Speaker 19: Well, our government's a coalition, but I mean actively campaigned

675
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Speaker 19: on real change, and my viewers that we should be

676
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Speaker 19: confronting quite how bad things are, whether it's the bile

677
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Speaker 19: on the plane or the ship, and saying, look, actually

678
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Speaker 19: we need to go back to first principles and ask

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Speaker 19: us the something that the government should do. And in

680
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Speaker 19: some of those three answers that the answer cases the

681
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Speaker 19: answer will still be yes, and others say, actually, maybe

682
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Speaker 19: the government doesn't need to be doing this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so your plane obviously it's an air force plane.

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Speaker 3: You need a military I get that, and there's money

685
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Speaker 3: needed for something like that. I'm assuming that's what's happened.

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Speaker 3: This has become so embarrassing that you guys are actually

687
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Speaker 3: going to act and spend some money and solve some problems.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 19: Well, I think it's fair to speculate that.

690
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Speaker 20: I mean, there hasn't been any.

691
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Speaker 19: Discussion about the plane since the latest breakup, But I

692
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Speaker 19: just make the point that you know, seventy million every

693
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Speaker 19: two years to maintain it. We actually uncovered that in opposition.

694
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Speaker 19: I don't know what it costs to lease one, as

695
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Speaker 19: most airlines around the world do, but that's got to

696
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Speaker 19: be an option, or maybe, given it's an air force,

697
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Speaker 19: they could own one, and that's got to be cheaper

698
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Speaker 19: than fixing up the current ones before you allow for

699
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Speaker 19: the difference and performance which is becoming nationally embarrassing, internationally embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, we've got you farm Maker's Farm coming today.

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Speaker 19: Look, there's going to be discussion today and that may

702
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Speaker 19: well lead to an announcement. Obviously, you know, I've got

703
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Speaker 19: to be respectful of my cabinet colleagues and not get

704
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Speaker 19: ahead of them, which I've tried to do throughout this discussion.

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Speaker 19: But what I think is important is that we bring

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Speaker 19: it back to the patients, make sure that we preserve

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Speaker 19: the independence of the farm model, and ensure we keep

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Speaker 19: confidence in the political system so that if a party

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Speaker 19: makes a promise, especially such a critical promise as this,

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Speaker 19: then the government's able to deliver on the national parties

711
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Speaker 19: made that promise, of the government is working hard to

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Speaker 19: deliver on within some of the constraints we face appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: David Seymore, Associate Minister of Finance with us of course

714
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Speaker 3: eleven minutes past seven. One I forgot to tell you about,

715
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Speaker 3: of course, is the Chattam Islands which ran out of petrol,

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Speaker 3: so they've got to ship on the way. It's run

717
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Speaker 3: out of petrol completely. Diesel supplies are running low, bad

718
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Speaker 3: weather force the barge would turn around, so they got

719
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Speaker 3: the sea worker out of Nell and expected to arrive

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Speaker 3: by tuesday. So no petrol in the Chatterm Islands until tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Where are we at with the crime business?

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Speaker 3: More details and what these military style academies will look

723
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Speaker 3: like as like as part of the Crime Package update yesterday.

724
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Speaker 3: So we've got a new declaration for young offenders. Youth

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Speaker 3: court judge will have the power to send people off

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Speaker 3: to an academy. The Minister for Children Caring chawles with us.

727
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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 15: Way.

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Speaker 3: As far as these new laws are concerned for these

730
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Speaker 3: youth offenders, does a judge have to or is it discretionary?

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Speaker 21: It's still the discretion of the judge. Our job which

732
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Speaker 21: cannot make judges do things. But what we can do

733
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Speaker 21: is send a very clear message to the judiciary that

734
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Speaker 21: the public have had enough. They're sick of the crime

735
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Speaker 21: that's going on in the communities, and they're sick of

736
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Speaker 21: the victims that are suffering in our communities.

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Speaker 3: Most people would agree with that. Do you think the judges,

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Speaker 3: though broadly speaking, are on board with this or not.

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Speaker 21: Well, I'm hoping when they see that we've created a

740
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Speaker 21: program that will give these young people a lot more

741
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Speaker 21: hope coming out than when they went in, that that

742
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Speaker 21: will give the judges an incentive to actually use this

743
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Speaker 21: sentencing power.

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Speaker 3: Could this be one of the problems with the program.

745
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Speaker 3: It's still too small and by the time they start

746
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Speaker 3: sentencing all these kids into these programs, they're not going

747
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Speaker 3: to be able to cope.

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Speaker 21: So the pilot program is a small program because we

749
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Speaker 21: have to run it under the current legislation. Once the

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Speaker 21: YSO legislation goes through, will be ready to ramp that

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Speaker 21: program up. But until then, we have to run a

752
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Speaker 21: program under the current legislation.

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Speaker 3: And everything you know about what you're going to be

754
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Speaker 3: introducing in this program, how confident are you that it

755
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Speaker 3: will actually turn some younger lives around.

756
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Speaker 21: I'm actually really certain that this will make a real

757
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Speaker 21: difference in these young people's lives. That's what I came

758
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Speaker 21: here for. If it wasn't going to I wouldn't know it.

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Speaker 21: I have every confidence that this will give these young

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Speaker 21: people some hope for a better future.

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Speaker 3: Let us hope, so Karen saw the Children's Minister thirteen

762
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Speaker 3: minutes past seven past night. Rail isn't fully commercial. It's

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Speaker 3: termed a public benefit entity as there are services they

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Speaker 3: must provide that a commercial entity would have stopped providing

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Speaker 3: due to commercial reasons. Mike, I got caught with the

766
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Speaker 3: bridge last week. This is the Auckland domestic bridge, the

767
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Speaker 3: pedestrian bridge three hundred meters and Stiletto's fine one and

768
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Speaker 3: a half K's is a blister. Yeah, no, that is true,

769
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Speaker 3: blister on a ball of a foot. Mike. Appreciate everyone

770
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Speaker 3: wants to tear a Kiwi rail and into the island

771
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Speaker 3: at a bits, but our freight industry needs rail capable

772
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Speaker 3: ferries as our infrastructure currently, since no one's I don't

773
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Speaker 3: think anyone's arguing with we need fairies and all we're

774
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: wanting is a better company and a better ferry service.

775
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Speaker 3: That's all we wanted. I don't think we wanted to

776
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Speaker 3: get rid of it. Mike, what a huge surprise, David's

777
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: privatizing infrastructure shameful. Well, when you say that, the counter

778
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: argument is what what we've currently got three and a

779
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Speaker 3: half billion dollars in counting with a bunch of clowns

780
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Speaker 3: who don't know what they're doing. Is that what you want?

781
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: Is that what you find is acceptable. So there's three

782
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: individual stories here. One the incompetence of Kiwi Rail. Two,

783
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: the plane is no one's fault other than a government's

784
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 3: for not properly funding the military. Three is the bolts

785
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Speaker 3: on the pylon. That's going to be a fascinating press

786
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: conference this afternoon at one pm this afternoon. Unless we've

787
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: got this completely wrong. But no one, no one completes

788
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: an investigation in two days, two of the days being

789
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: a weekend, unless they know full well what happened and

790
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: it was very obvious, and how they explained their way

791
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 3: out of this is probably going to be the comedic

792
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: highlight of the day. Fifteen past the Myke Costing racist

793
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: news TGSB Police Commissioner Andrew Costa on the crime announcements

794
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Speaker 3: over the weekend coming shortly after the new seventeen past seven.

795
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Speaker 3: So even for a person who's been watching the Warriors

796
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: for over a quarter of a century. Now you are

797
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: delving well into the memory banks to remember a mess

798
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: like the one that unfolded Saturday night, sixty six six

799
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: thrashed by the bottom of the table Titans. Officially it

800
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: equals the worst loss to the Storm a couple of

801
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: years ago. Former Keevy Richie Barnett's back with us on

802
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: all of this. Richie, morning to you, Good morning Mite.

803
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 3: I was expecting to come back in the second half,

804
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: like we've seen it before. We play like crap in

805
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: the first half, somebody tunes them up at halftime. You

806
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: come back and there's a bit of something there and

807
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: there was nothing. What the hell went wrong?

808
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 13: Holy? That was actually at the game really difficult to see,

809
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 13: but you could just see that the energy levels actually

810
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 13: were just a look way short. I felt that it

811
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 13: just wasn't happening. I think their directness was poor obviously.

812
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 13: The leaking of points through the middle on the edges

813
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 13: was just embarrassing actually, and we were just the whole crowd.

814
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 13: It would have been about seventy seven of the crowd us,

815
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 13: so they had homeground, just believe it or not. But

816
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 13: they just didn't show up and it was just awkward

817
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 13: to watch. It was frustrating, and people would to supported.

818
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: How do you explain that given they played so well

819
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: mainly this year, then they went into their slump, then

820
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: they came back, and now they do this. I mean,

821
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 3: these are serious players, that Johnson and Harris and those guys.

822
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: These are seasoned professionals who must know that part of

823
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: the job is to turn up and turn on.

824
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Speaker 13: There are so many questions that need to be surely, like,

825
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 13: I just don't understand how a side can show so

826
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Speaker 13: much effort and what they've done in the last couple

827
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 13: of years and then show up to a game where

828
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 13: they just got destroyed by tim to actually put on

829
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 13: their best performance ever in a long time. They've had

830
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 13: their wobble season for a long time. They put on

831
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 13: a show that was just extraordinary football. But Matts by

832
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 13: side that just couldn't contain, couldn't provide the effort every

833
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 13: facet of the game because he was poor.

834
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Speaker 3: I feel sorry for Webster because he deserves better than that,

835
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: doesn't he Yeah, he.

836
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Speaker 13: Does, But certainly the standard of the players they must

837
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 13: be walking out there again. What happened there? What?

838
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 18: What?

839
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 2: What?

840
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 13: Happened, and you know, like, obviously it's got to be

841
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 13: down to attitude. Surely it has to be attitude. It's

842
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 13: got to be attitude or believe in the hype of

843
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 13: what's happening around them. I don't know, but I can't

844
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 13: put a finger on it. But all I saw on

845
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 13: that day was there is a lack of energy, commitment,

846
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 13: directness and how they played communication, all all the above,

847
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 13: every single layer that you can think of as a

848
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 13: player and as a team's culture was just destroyed in

849
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 13: one night.

850
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Speaker 3: Anything that could have gone wrong, did Richie Nison sight,

851
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: Not that we want to regurgitate it, but there you go.

852
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: We'll have to talk about it after eight with the

853
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: lads as well. I suspect Richie Barnett with us. Let's

854
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: come back to far making a moment, shall we? Seven

855
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: twenty Yes, my cost breakfast. You all know, Amiga three

856
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: fish oil are good for supporting the joints, the brain,

857
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Speaker 3: health and more, but not all for suils created equally,

858
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Speaker 3: by the way, where the benefits for most fish oils

859
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Speaker 3: end less as oil advanced from about health is just

860
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Speaker 3: getting started formulated using double strength purified fish oil maximum

861
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Speaker 3: viartamin D allowed, and New Zealand made supplements for immune

862
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 3: health COQ ten of course for the heart health support

863
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 3: lipards to support the cognitive health. So there's multi ingredient

864
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: formula essentially replaces a whole shelf of pharmacy stuff. It

865
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Speaker 3: is made right here in the country, independently lab tested

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Speaker 3: to ensure that quality and potency read the label taker

867
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Speaker 3: was take only as directed, of course, but order your

868
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Speaker 3: supply of Leicester's Oil Advanced today. You call about Health

869
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Speaker 3: I eight hundred, triple nine three or nine. They're online

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Speaker 3: of course at about health dot co dot in said,

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Speaker 3: enter the code breakfast and you will get a delicious

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Speaker 3: bar of Capity dark chocolate. It is Leicester's Oil Advance,

873
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Speaker 3: the best of the best, only from About Health. Mosking

874
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Speaker 3: now seven twenty four. I think I got enough out

875
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: of Nicola Willis on Friday on the program didn't we too?

876
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 15: Know that?

877
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: Today? And David Seymour backed it up a couple of

878
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: moments ago. Cabinet's going to sign off the money for

879
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: Farmak to solve their cancer problem. The big outworking of

880
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: this is this. I hope they have learned their lesson.

881
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: See this government is a couple of problems. Biggest one

882
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: is the mess they inherited, a mess we're going to

883
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: spend at least the next year, and having spent the

884
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: past year deep in it as well. I mean, two

885
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: years of economic misery is a lot to ask of

886
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: an electorate, and it's a lot to expect of a

887
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: government to try and rectify. Even on a good day

888
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: with plenty of intent and hard work, voters get grumpy

889
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: with whoever's in charge, no matter whether it was actually

890
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: their fault. So given that problem number two self inflicted wounds,

891
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: the cancer promise was madd. It was mad because governments

892
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: don't pick drugs. That's what Farmac's for. If you don't

893
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: like farmac, fine change it, but don't keep the same system.

894
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: Will trying to jerry mandrain. They also put out a

895
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 3: list of thirteen drugs, some of which aren't even fit

896
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: for purpose anymore. And then, having made the mistake of

897
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: making the promise, problem number three they fail to deliver

898
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: o mg. Failure to deliver Did they learn nothing from labor?

899
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 22: Then?

900
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 3: Last week Scrutiny Week, Shane Retty says one thing, they'll

901
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: deliver all thirteen drugs. Nikola Willis says they'll deliver some

902
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: of the drugs. David Seymour says he can't make a

903
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: commitment and farm Maker is independent. Three people, three answers,

904
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Problem number four mixed messaging. So this week an answer

905
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: and seemingly an elegant one. More money. The money gets

906
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: spent on the stuff that's needed, not automatically the thirteen.

907
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: It's spent by Farmak and it might well mean that

908
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: some spending on other drugs is taking place as well.

909
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 3: Good good, good, so sorted very big lesson. It never

910
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: had to be this way. And if all they're doing

911
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: this week is handing up money, why didn't they do

912
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: it in the budget when they had the chance. Delivery

913
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: and confidence. That's what we want from governments. If this

914
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: is a one off, they'll get away with them. If

915
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: it's a habit, they're toast past get Speaking of Toast

916
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: Broncos on Saturday at Home, Mike, the Warriors are just

917
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: another example of the failed New Zealand infrastructure. Very good.

918
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: I will talk to the Oh it's going to say,

919
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: I'll talk to Prime Minister about this tomorrow. But there's

920
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: so much on this list. I don't even know. If

921
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: we probably start at sex and roll through until about

922
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: ten thirty we might tick a few boxes off Health

923
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: New Zealand. I can't quite get to the bottom of this.

924
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: They are screaming internally that they can't hire. Health New

925
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: Zealand themselves say there is no hiring freeze on frontline

926
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: facing in other words, to be deal with patients. There

927
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: is no freeze. What we're starting to hear now my

928
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: assumption was in part that the graduate nurses were part

929
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 3: of the problem. So, in other words, the graduate nurses

930
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 3: weren't necessarily going to get hired because they need somebody

931
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: over seeing them, and you know, we don't have the money,

932
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: don't have the time, don't have the energy. So the

933
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: gaps are being filled by people who come into the

934
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: immigration system. That was my assumption. But what we're now

935
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: also getting is the accusation that when they do have

936
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: a job, a front facing job, the criteria is so

937
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: high it's impossible to meet the demand. So in other words,

938
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: there is actually a freeze. It's just not officially a freeze.

939
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: It's the freeze you're having when you're not having a freeze.

940
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: So everyone agrees we've got a problem. Everyone agrees there

941
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: are gaps. The difference comes and some people saying this

942
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: is really a freeze in health News and say no

943
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: it's not. So it doesn't solve the problem. Doesn't yet

944
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: again it doesn't solve the problem. So we'll I'll put

945
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 3: that in the file and stick at things to ask

946
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: lux and tomorrow after seven thirty. But after seven thirty

947
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: this morning, the Police Commissioner Andrew Costa is next setting.

948
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: The news agenda and digging into the issues. The Mic

949
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast.

950
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: With our Veda Live the Age you Feel News talks envy.

951
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of the I expressed my that's my overhelln

952
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: Clark and her run entree into the business of petty

953
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: points scoring over the weekend. With all the difficulties we're

954
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: facing in this country infrastructurally speaking, Julian jents no better.

955
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: Can we please uncancel the contract to get two fairies

956
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: for five hundred and fifty million dollars. You're never getting

957
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: two fairies for five hundred and fifty million dollars. The

958
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: whole project was Kiwi rails driven. The idea had to

959
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: park them somewhere and that's where the infrastructure came in,

960
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: and that's where it went from seven hundred and fifty

961
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: million dollars through to three point four three point five

962
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: billion and counting. You've got to tell the whole story.

963
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: Mark the chair of director is a Kiwi Rail standing

964
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: Down's understandable. Hopefully a few others will follow, including the

965
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: ex politicians on the board. I could only find one

966
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: X politician on the board A I looked yesterday Marion

967
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: Streets on the board for reasons I do not know why.

968
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: The real question is what changes are occurring at the

969
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: management and culture internally. I think that's the key to

970
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: it all. Aboard is one thing that who's actually pulling

971
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: the levers in the company is the key to this.

972
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: What I also did notice when I looked up the

973
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: board yesterday is there a nine of them. That strikes

974
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: me as an awful lot of people to run a

975
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: place that runs ships into the wall. Read the boot camps. Mike,

976
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: my son's just been through the six week basic training

977
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: along with all the fitness, getting up on time and

978
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: learning about having the right sort of pride. They learn

979
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: about setting goals, team building, have a sense of belonging,

980
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: and so much more. These are the things that they're

981
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 3: not getting from their current situation. How these people can't

982
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: see this tells me they don't want it to work.

983
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: Eight line. Speaking of which, part of the crime announcement

984
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: yesterday of course included more community beat teams. So we're

985
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: going to have sixty three in Auckland seventeen and Wellington

986
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: ten and christ Church are coppers on the beat. The

987
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Police Commissioner Andrew Costas with us on this very good

988
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: morning to you.

989
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 20: Good morning Mike.

990
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: How much of what you're doing all this announcement yesterday

991
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: is about you, your initiative and how you run the

992
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: police versus the government telling you what to do.

993
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 15: Well.

994
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 20: The government's given us five hundred additional staff, so there's

995
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 20: a great opportunity for us, and they've been really clear

996
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 20: they can see nutlift and police visibility. We agree with that.

997
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 20: To do that, we are both invest in new staff

998
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 20: but also trying to focus back on our core after

999
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 20: being drawn into a range of other activities.

1000
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 3: And do you agree with it because you were told

1001
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: to agree with it, or you agree with it because

1002
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: you thought of it yourself, not Look.

1003
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 20: We've had visibility as a key priority for a long time.

1004
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 20: I think our challenge has been how we balance up

1005
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 20: the other things. So new investments making a difference there,

1006
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 20: and of course being able or getting support to step

1007
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 20: back from some of the things that other agencies.

1008
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: Ought to be doing, like the mental health stuff. Absolutely,

1009
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: have you done that yet or is that a work

1010
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 3: in progress.

1011
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 20: We've recently agreed what the triage approach to this will

1012
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 20: look like, so that will be about the things we

1013
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 20: can do to manage our time differently. But of course

1014
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 20: we need to see a response from others to make

1015
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 20: that workable, and we continue to engage with other agencies

1016
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 20: on it.

1017
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: I was going to see, you're sort of between a

1018
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: rock and a hard place here, aren't you as willing

1019
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 3: as you may be? Who's going to pick up the slack?

1020
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean there's some truth in that. I think

1021
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 20: having the support to pull back, recognizing there is risk

1022
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 20: that attaches with us attending fewer events where families are understress.

1023
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 20: For example, it makes a difference.

1024
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: The sixty three, seventeen and ten. Where did those numbers

1025
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: come from?

1026
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 20: The sixty three allows us to both go twenty four

1027
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 20: to seven and our BEG coverage in the Auckland CBD

1028
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 20: plus have three teams of seven covering both the other

1029
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 20: Auckland districts, So it's the rationale there. In terms of

1030
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 20: the coverage in Wellington and christ Church, we en visits

1031
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 20: that we will get to a seven day coverage, but

1032
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 20: we don't think twenty four seven is required. So we've

1033
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 20: basically whipped the numbers based on what we think is required.

1034
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: And and it will make a material difference. I'll be

1035
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: able to walk down Queen Street and see a material

1036
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: difference because things have changed.

1037
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 20: Well, certainly our visibility is already increasing as a result

1038
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 20: the priority that we've put on that. But yes, absolutely,

1039
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 20: I mean having a twenty four to seven presence in

1040
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 20: the Auckland CBD will make a really positive difference. It's

1041
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 20: not a single solution.

1042
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 14: A lot of the behavior that's causing people to feel

1043
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 14: unsafe as anti social behavior falling short of criminality. And

1044
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 14: so that's part of the ongoing discussion being lead with

1045
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 14: some of the other agencies involved.

1046
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: The five hundred people you talked about recruiting. How is

1047
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: recruiting going. Is there a cue of people who want

1048
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: to be coppers or not.

1049
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 20: It's definitely turned in a positive direction in recent months

1050
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 20: with greater expressions of interest coming through as the job

1051
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 20: market's got tighter. Takes a while for those to work

1052
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 20: their way through the system, but in a sort of

1053
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 20: cut of environment wherein we would expect to be successful.

1054
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 3: In our equipment, good stuff. Appreciate your time as always.

1055
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: Andrew Costa, the Police Commission of this morning, eighteen minutes

1056
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: away from eight spake gens the MP for the Chatter minds.

1057
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: What a very good point and maybe she should focus

1058
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: on her constituents is true, and running out of diesel

1059
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: and petrol. They ran out of petrol, almost run out

1060
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: of diesel. She is, of course the MP for the

1061
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: Chatter islands. By the way, do you realize Gareth Keenan,

1062
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: for reasons best known to himself, economist at Infometrics, he's

1063
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: worked out you can actually on a minimum wage buy

1064
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 3: more Big Max now than you used to be able to.

1065
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what this means. Means, probably you can

1066
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: buy more Big Max than used to be able to.

1067
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: Back in April ninety five, the minimum wage was six

1068
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: dollars twenty five. You could get two point one to

1069
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: two Big Max. By July of last year, minimum wage

1070
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: was twenty two dollars seventy. You get too po eight

1071
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: Big Mac. See it's not all bad news. Eighteen to

1072
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: two the make costume breakfast, Mike, cops, until they're allowed

1073
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: to move people on for loitering in Queen streeting places

1074
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: like it, like the old days before ramp and crime,

1075
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: nothing will change. I think that's probably generally true, and

1076
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: I think that's what Coster was trying to say, this

1077
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: whole mental quote unquote mental health issue as opposed to criminality.

1078
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: I means sort of lying on a footpath should be criminal,

1079
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Speaker 3: of course, but it's not. And so what does a

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Speaker 3: cop do about that? Mike, I'll tell you what is real. O.

1081
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: We're a cut case of a country. Forget the idea

1082
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Speaker 3: of a new medical school in the waycatter hospitals on

1083
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: its knees, interventional radio oology departments falling apart, intensive care

1084
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: virtually collapsed. There is not a snowballs chance in hell

1085
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: that they can add a new medical school for that

1086
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: particular Maxa. I'm looking forward to catching up with the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister and all this. Welcome back to the talking

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00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: about the country. Christopher, how did Japan go for you?

1089
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: Didn't that? Didn't that get forgotten? Really quickly? A spent

1090
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: the whole week in Japan something and moved on to

1091
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: other things. By the way, somebody from car Jam, which

1092
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: is the website you look up when you want to

1093
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: look at a car, you punch in the plate and

1094
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 3: see what the story are and see if someone's nectared

1095
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: or it's whacked or so many ows money on it.

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Speaker 3: CR one, speaking of infrastructure, CE one is the Prime

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00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: Minister's car. Of course, it's a BMW seven thirty. It's

1098
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: a three liter diesel, and so for diesel it's probably okay.

1099
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Speaker 3: But it's got one hundred and seventy six thousand k's

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00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: on the clock, so that's that's more infrastructure. It's a

1101
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. It's eight years old, eight year old BMW.

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Speaker 3: Prime Miister's driving around an eight year old BMW with

1103
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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy six thousand k's on the clock

1104
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: must be getting close to needing a bit of a rejig.

1105
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: By the way, very good piece out of Australia last week,

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00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: three of the heavyweights of the Australian media. Not that

1107
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: this will get reignited here because and watching Winston Peter's

1108
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: last Monday was this time last week postcab he was

1109
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: playing Prime Minister and somebody asked him about the media

1110
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: so called media package. Remember Melissa Lee before Paul Goldsmith

1111
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: got butt in charge of media, and that she had

1112
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: a plan or an idea or something that was going

1113
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: to save us all and social media companies were going

1114
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: to get taught a lesson or finder, you know whatever. Anyway,

1115
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: nothing's happened. My suspicion is they're not interested and nothing

1116
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: will happen in Australia. Not so much. Three of the

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00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: heavyweights Channel nine, News Corp and Seven fronted up to

1118
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: a committee last week and they're wanting Meta apart from

1119
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: anything else expelled. Toxic, toxic impact of social media on

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00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: Australian democracy and society is what they were saying. This

1121
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: is the Social Media Australian Society Inquiry. Federal government should

1122
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: impose further regulations on social media platforms, potential expulsion of

1123
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: Facebook from Australia of Meta failed to comply with local

1124
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 3: news values. We cannot be scared to designate the platforms

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00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: that refuse to recognize our soulvereign laws. So they signed agreements.

1126
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: If you followed this back in twenty twenty one, following

1127
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 3: the introduction of a bargaining code, those agreements are due

1128
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: to expire this year. The thinking is they'll walk. So

1129
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: they're saying that Meta was preparing to blackmail media organizations

1130
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 3: in the federal government by refusing to renew its deals

1131
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: for news content. Now, my whole argument all along has

1132
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: been quite simple. These guys are now so big, so powerful,

1133
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: they don't care. If they don't care about a place

1134
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 3: like Australia, they're certainly not going to care about a

1135
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: place like New Zealand. So if the government go along

1136
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: and go, look, you need to pay this, or do

1137
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: this or sign this, they're going to go, you know what,

1138
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: doy't worry about it, and they'll just turn off their

1139
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: service into this country. They did it for a while

1140
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: in Canada, and Canada is quite a bit bigger than

1141
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: New Zealand, you might have noticed. Most certainly, if the

1142
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: deals aren't renewed across the industry, we will see pressure

1143
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: on jobs. So that was their big threat. They came

1144
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: along to Parliament they said, look, we're going to have

1145
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: to start laying off journalists if we can't cut a deal. Obviously,

1146
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: the media companies are not looking for a free kick.

1147
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: We just want a level playing field. Where they then

1148
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 3: unfortunately let themselves down is they were forced to defend

1149
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: their own companies impact on society. All three of them

1150
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: refuse to say whether they should be forced to abide

1151
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: by similar codes of conduct relating to disinformation and misinformation.

1152
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: So that's where we sort of went wrong for them there.

1153
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: But at least they're trying to rk it up and

1154
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: it's possible the Australian government's going to get involved in this,

1155
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: and it's possible they're going to come head to head

1156
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 3: and have a bit of biffo and if that happens

1157
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: then that'll be interesting to see where that leaves our

1158
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: government and whether they are prepared to do anything similar. Now,

1159
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: speaking of Australian's Jetstar, they're expanding. I have more details

1160
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: for you in a moment ten to eight.

1161
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking breakfast with are Theda News.

1162
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: Talks like I think the k's on the PM'SB and

1163
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 3: W are high, asked Mark Mitchell about the police fleet.

1164
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon for frontline vehicles to be getting close

1165
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: to three hundred thousand k's. That I suppose is reassuring

1166
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: in terms of modern technology and motoring, isn't it? Seven

1167
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: away from eight, Jetstar expanding the New Zealand operations launching

1168
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 3: flights between Auckland and the Sunshine Coast from December, Chitch

1169
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: and Kens from open next year. They're also going to

1170
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: increase capacity on the domestic route, starting with christ Chuch

1171
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 3: to Auckland and Auckland to Wellington. The Jetstar CEO Stephanie

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00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: Tully's with us on all of the Stephanie, very good morning.

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Speaker 23: To you, good morning, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Indeed thank you. Domestically, how many seats does this add.

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Speaker 23: What we're announcing today, It adds twohndred and forty thousand

1176
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 23: LOFO seats into the market, so we're super excited. This

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Speaker 23: is the biggest expansion for Jetstar in over ten years

1178
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 23: with these new routes. Why now, Oh, Look, we're seeing

1179
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 23: demand for lofes travel really strong on both sides of

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Speaker 23: the Tasman but also domestically and Jet Stars done a

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00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 23: lot of work. We've really improved our operation here domestically.

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Speaker 23: We just want to add some more frequency. Our customers

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00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 23: are asking us to do that, so we're really excited

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00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 23: for our people based in New Zealand as well to

1185
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 23: have some more flying to add into their rosters.

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Speaker 3: And this is consistent and this is for the long haul.

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 3: You're not just dipping your toe into the market and

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00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: then deciding if it all gets a bit hard to

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Speaker 3: go home.

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Speaker 23: No, we're adding these routes year round and we see

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 23: sustained demand. We've had an awesome partnership with cross Church

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Speaker 23: Airport and Queensland Government to support us to enable us

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Speaker 23: to do this year round. So we it's a fantastic example.

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Speaker 23: I think of when we work together as an industry,

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00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 23: we can really put in more loafares into the market.

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 23: And we know that Kiwe's want that, so they want

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Speaker 23: more competition. So I think it's a fantastic day.

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Speaker 3: And these are permanent reductions and fares or entry level

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Speaker 3: reductions and fairs, and or do you reckon a New

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Speaker 3: Zealand will match you or have to match you.

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00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 23: Oh look, we've got a sales starting today, some fantastic

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00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 23: fares in the market from midday to day. Customers can

1203
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 23: get those thirty nine dollars fares domestically. But what we

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 23: find is just we are the only loafares leader carrier

1205
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 23: in this market. So when you look ahead, our pricing

1206
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 23: is consistently sort of over thirty to forty percent below

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Speaker 23: our new Zealand. So you know, our job is to

1208
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 23: stimulates man to offer lowfairs options for Kiwi, so we'll

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Speaker 23: keep doing that.

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Speaker 3: What I found interesting, and I can't remember when it was,

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00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 3: but it was a month or so back, there was

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Speaker 3: a reliability report. And the famous thing with jet Star

1213
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: is that you know, you don't have enough planes and

1214
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: sometimes they don't turn up on the captain sick and

1215
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: all that sort of thing. Reliability wise, you actually turned

1216
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: out to be pretty good at what you do. How

1217
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 3: hards turning that image around.

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Speaker 23: Look at I'm really proud of the Jets team. We've

1219
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 23: spent a lot of work months improving our reliability and

1220
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 23: you can see that coming through, as you say in

1221
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 23: the stats. At the last few months we had a

1222
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Speaker 23: period of fifty days actually where we didn't even have

1223
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 23: a cancelation. And look, we're in an airline. There's always

1224
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 23: going to be things like weather outside your control that

1225
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 23: might impact your schedule. But we're seeing, you know, our

1226
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 23: on time performance at over eighty percent on average cancelations

1227
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 23: at one percent or less, and that's that rivals in

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Speaker 23: New Zealand, and when your fares are thirty to forty

1229
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 23: percent less, it becomes a really a good alternative option

1230
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 23: for customers that are looking for that value.

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Speaker 3: Go well with It's Stephanie Telly, who's the boss of

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Speaker 3: virget Star. All competition is a good competition, Mike. I

1233
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: was in Wellington with my partner about eleven pm Saturday night.

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00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: Police presence was noticeably higher, both in terms of police

1235
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: we could see wandering around and police cars parked up

1236
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: on the street than previous visits to Courtney Place. It

1237
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: gives you a greater feeling of safety, no question about that.

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00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: Richard precat that very much, Mike. It's a long way

1239
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: riding a paddle bike to the Chattam Islands to tell

1240
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: you constituents help is on the way now, that is true,

1241
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: Michael Sport, Andrew and Guy of course obviously raised this

1242
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: afternoon his big day out. Mind you, it's the broad Squad,

1243
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: isn't it. It's sort of like I'm not sure. I mean,

1244
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: it's exciting he's there and we love all of that,

1245
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: but you know he's going to pick everybody. Basically, we'll

1246
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: have to deal with the warrior's formula. And it's very

1247
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: good this morning and in Spain. If you haven't watched

1248
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: it and you've got it recorded all again a stream

1249
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: later on. It's well worth watching. It was an excellent race,

1250
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: but that doesn't cover the most exciting piece of sport

1251
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: in the world right now, and you will never guess

1252
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: what it is anyway more. Shortly after the News.

1253
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: You're Trusted Home The News for Entertainments, Opinion and Mike

1254
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, The Art of Performance, News Talks,

1255
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Speaker 1: d B.

1256
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: Sprung Room.

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Speaker 10: It is no wrong, No wrong comes must Super ruckbchampions

1258
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 10: put up first.

1259
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: Time in twenty one years.

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Speaker 14: They don't blocks the change set the final forty one ten.

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Speaker 3: Fuck he thanks it over.

1262
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 14: It is sixty six points to six, a record.

1263
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: Breaking afternoon on the Gold Coast. Now on the ground,

1264
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: but that is.

1265
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: Santast He's taken and it's.

1266
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Speaker 2: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the make Husking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Andrews, very good morning to you. The you're more excited

1268
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 3: about the Blues, Andrew or raised this afternoon you were,

1269
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: You're different approach.

1270
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's an exciting day for Scott Robertson, isn't it,

1271
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 14: and his and his assistant coaches who are now his selectors.

1272
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 14: I would imagine we're going to see five or six

1273
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 14: new caps out of necessity given injuries and players that

1274
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 14: departed up at the World Cup. But I think you

1275
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 14: also see a lot of regular names and a lot

1276
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 14: of experience as well in that in that square.

1277
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Speaker 3: And and that's the problem for a person like me,

1278
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: is I mean, this isn't the crunchy bit the crunchy,

1279
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: but is when you name you run on site? I mean,

1280
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: that's what we really want to know, isn't I do

1281
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: this today? Is sort of high how you're doing? And

1282
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 3: his whole bunch of people are going to sit around

1283
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: until but.

1284
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Speaker 14: You can name fifty players at only twenty three are

1285
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 14: going to run out or play against England in a

1286
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 14: couple of weeks time. Interesting to see the way the

1287
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 14: Blues played most of the season, Mike, and again on

1288
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 14: Saturday night, that Ford pact was outstanding. And I think

1289
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Speaker 14: I'm sure the All Blacks have looked at this and thought, hmm,

1290
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 14: maybe we could use this sort of style against England.

1291
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 14: And I'm sure the English team, which I think arrives

1292
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 14: today into the country, right that'd be looking at this

1293
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 14: going gee whiz. This is like normal rugby union played

1294
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 14: at about five times the pace are they any good England? Yeah,

1295
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 14: they picked a fairly strong squad. There aren't too many

1296
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 14: players missing injured, and they beat Japan at the weekend,

1297
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 14: which is obviously no real indication. But no, no, I

1298
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 14: think they'll be okay.

1299
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 3: Okay, because I was looking at the run through for

1300
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 3: the year, so England and I'm quite excited about because

1301
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: we don't play them often enough. Fiji, who cares Argentina

1302
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: and I suppose that they know Argentina turn up and

1303
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: you think, oh, it could be a game. But once

1304
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: again it's of same old South Africa Australia.

1305
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 13: Yep.

1306
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: I did that last year in the year before. You

1307
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's got that same old, same

1308
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 3: old feel about it.

1309
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, but it's the new coach, new tactics, new feeling

1310
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 14: in the team. You've got South Africa twice away from home.

1311
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 14: You've got Joe Schmidt and the Wallabies in Sydney. That'll

1312
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 14: be a big one in then back over here. Really exciting, Okay, Well.

1313
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 3: As long as you're excited, what about you? What about

1314
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: your guy? You fizzing?

1315
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 15: I feel like this is the most intriguing teams. The

1316
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 15: squad announcement, the most intriguing squad announcement we've had for

1317
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 15: a while. I found squad announcements phiirly boring because, as

1318
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 15: we just said, you can largely predict most of the

1319
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 15: players that are going to be there. But the element

1320
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 15: of Scott robertson how different he will go, I suppose,

1321
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 15: if at all, I find that relatively intriguing. And then

1322
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 15: and so sorry, I'm just watching the golf and there

1323
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 15: are a couple of intruders on the green and that's

1324
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 15: taken me by surprise, throwing stuff all over the green. No,

1325
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 15: not naked, but they've got flaars and everything, and it's all.

1326
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: Kind of jeans or orange paint, white.

1327
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 15: Paint by the things. And they've caused chaos on the

1328
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 15: green anyway. And then England, I think England will be

1329
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 15: quite intriguing to see them come here. They even come

1330
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 15: here for.

1331
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: A while, I think, so that will be that to me, guys,

1332
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say, as a casual observer of

1333
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: the game, that's the sort of thing I want to

1334
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: see a cem oh England are coming excellent. I you know,

1335
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: the same every year we play South Africa and Australia

1336
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: and Argentina and then we go play somebody like Fiji

1337
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: or Japan and stuff and mix it up.

1338
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 15: As sav says, the South Africa thing should be interesting

1339
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 15: this year because we've got to play them twice over there,

1340
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 15: and then also Australia previously has been relatively boring because

1341
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 15: you've known that the All Blacks are going to keep

1342
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 15: hold of the Bledderslow Cup. The Schmidt factor adds something

1343
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 15: to that. I still don't think they've got the players

1344
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 15: to be able to match the All Blacks, but who knows?

1345
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 3: Do you reckon Sev that Rays is going to button

1346
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 3: himself up? I remember Lory Mains. Lorie Mains was very

1347
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: difficult to deal with until he was no longer All

1348
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 3: Black coach, and then he turned into a really nice

1349
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: guy again. You know they changed person and do you

1350
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: reckon he's going to change him on?

1351
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 14: I think it's a lot to do with the pressure.

1352
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 14: I don't think Scott Robertson is going to change a

1353
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 14: heck of a lot. I think what he will be

1354
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 14: getting to grips with at the moment, Mike is the

1355
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 14: demands on his time, not only having to coach and

1356
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 14: win rugby test matches, but you've got the commercial side

1357
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 14: of it. You've got the fan interest side of it,

1358
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 14: which is much much bigger than say a Crusader's team

1359
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 14: or Super Rugby. I think that's where he'll be really

1360
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 14: tested early on in his regime. And then say, on

1361
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 14: top of that, you've got to coach of a rugby

1362
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 14: team to win test matches. I think England will be okay, Mike,

1363
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 14: but when you put them in toned An under that

1364
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 14: roof first up, I don't think they'll stick with the

1365
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 14: All Blacks for pacing.

1366
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

1367
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 15: I think I think Scott Robertson will be great, but

1368
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 15: let's not think there's an enormous amount of pressure on

1369
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 15: him because he comes in. Everyone is expecting the All

1370
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 15: Blacks to win under Scott Robertson. He has been touted

1371
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 15: as the guy who should have been the All Blacks coach.

1372
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 15: A lot of people should have thought he should have

1373
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 15: been the All Blacks coach a few years ago, and

1374
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 15: they've been waiting for this time now. So people are

1375
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 15: expecting him to come straight out of the gates and

1376
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 15: win tests. It's not as easy as that on the

1377
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 15: international stage. And as we as we say England and

1378
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 15: then South Africa two tests in South Africa. It's not

1379
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 15: a massively easy start to his tenure, so I think

1380
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 15: there's actually a bit of pressure on him. I'm excited,

1381
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 15: I don't know, and he should be the All Blacks coach.

1382
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 15: But yeah, I do something.

1383
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: There's a bit of pressure on Okay, cool, right to

1384
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: go to the break. You guys, think about this. What

1385
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 3: is the and there's no dispute about this. It's a

1386
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 3: statement of fact. What is the most exciting sporting event

1387
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: in the world at the moment. Think about that more

1388
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 3: in a moment. There's a prize for whoever gets it right.

1389
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 3: Guyavelt Andrews Sevil thirteen past the Mike Hosking Breakfast, sixteen

1390
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: past eight News Talk ZB.

1391
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

1392
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 3: Sev anything to say about the Warriors apart from you know.

1393
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 14: Whatever, it's going to take a stab at your most

1394
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 14: excited Yes, same, Yeah.

1395
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 3: We're going to do that to do that. But I

1396
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: just people will complain that I don't cover the Warriors

1397
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: when they lose, but you know, I mean, I don't

1398
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: know what there is to say.

1399
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 14: I'd be excited to see a bunch of Rugby League

1400
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 14: players row home from surfers paradise to walkland because they should.

1401
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: Be in real life. It's like I was expecting a

1402
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 3: comeback in the second half of sorts, probably going to

1403
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: be disappointed because the gap was too big at halftime.

1404
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: But normally you sort of you start badly, you get

1405
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: a tune, you comeback, do something, and they didn't do anything,

1406
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 3: and it was just the whole thing is inexplicable, you know,

1407
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: experience on the field. It's not like we had a

1408
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: sort of B squad. It's it's it's just like I

1409
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: don't I just don't get it.

1410
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 13: Well.

1411
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 14: The irony is when the team had younger players out

1412
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 14: through necessity, through injury. When they beat was it Peneris

1413
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 14: and the Dolphins.

1414
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 22: Of football?

1415
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, they played bit of football.

1416
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: They're going to have to drop a few people aspar as,

1417
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 3: Like I just feel guy sorry for Webster because he

1418
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: deserves so much better than this.

1419
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

1420
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 15: It's so do I You just start to wonder in

1421
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 15: times of these and I have not heard it anything.

1422
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 15: I don't know, so purely speculating, and I'm purely just

1423
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 15: wondering what on earth is going on? Is there something

1424
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 15: more to this? I don't know, Like they have lost

1425
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 15: some they went on that losing streak and everyone was

1426
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 15: thinking what's going on here? Then they turn around and win,

1427
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 15: and then they go and lose, lose by sixty points

1428
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 15: on the Gold Coast. These are times where you just

1429
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 15: start to wonder what is actually going on, because there's

1430
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 15: something more to be to the Titans.

1431
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: They did play extremely well.

1432
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 13: They did.

1433
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they came to life, you know, they realized something

1434
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: was on and they just threw a course to the

1435
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 3: wind went nuts.

1436
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 15: And it's not the first one.

1437
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 14: History, a bunch of it's not the first time industry,

1438
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,959
Speaker 14: a bunch of young men of collapsing the Gold Coast.

1439
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: That's true, Andrew, that is true.

1440
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 15: Of that warrior's defense. US three could have run through absolutely.

1441
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: I mean, some of those tackles they fell off were

1442
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: just embarrassing and and and in a different time, in

1443
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 3: a different place, the referee was shocking, and two of

1444
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: us check shouldn't be off and the try that was

1445
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 3: just allowed was to try and all that sort of stuff.

1446
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 14: But it's sort of when you you can't blame sixty

1447
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 14: points on the brief No, I.

1448
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: Agree, right, Sav, You go first. What do you think

1449
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: the most And there's no question this is by so

1450
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: far it doesn't matter. The most exciting sporting event in

1451
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 3: the world at the moment.

1452
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 14: Is is there anything to do with motor racing?

1453
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: No?

1454
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 14: Billiards?

1455
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is this is genuine you. You

1456
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 3: can't deny it.

1457
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 15: I've got a guess. Game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals.

1458
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

1459
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 14: Sav Yeah, I'd say i'd what it is?

1460
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 15: Do you know? Sorry? I think it wasn't.

1461
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 14: What wasn't wasn't one of the teams down three nil?

1462
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 3: This is the point, This is what I'm saying, Sad.

1463
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 3: I don't know where you've been. Edmonton were down three

1464
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: Nils against Florida and they went three to one, three

1465
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 3: to two. Everyone went ah and when before they went

1466
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: three to two, no one had ever come back or what?

1467
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 3: Was there just one I can't remember the actual stat

1468
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 3: but the and one game five, so that was unusual

1469
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 3: in itself. Anyway, it's now three all, it's three all,

1470
01:08:55,320 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 3: and they go with game game seventeen. Unfortunately it's in Florida, unless,

1471
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 3: of course Florida when they'll be happy about that. But

1472
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 3: Edmonton are on a roll. If Edmonton win, Tell me

1473
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: when was the last time somebody came back from three

1474
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 3: nil down in the Stanley Cup. Here's the big prize, guy,

1475
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 3: here's the big prize.

1476
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 15: I've got the prize. You see, there was a prize

1477
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 15: to guess what it was. I've got the prize. This

1478
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 15: is a big prize.

1479
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a big prize for the big prize.

1480
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 18: Guy.

1481
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 3: Havevelt When was the last time somebody came back in

1482
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: the Stanley Cup final and went on.

1483
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 15: To I'll ask you one question. So it has happened? Yes, okay,

1484
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 15: nineteen twelve?

1485
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 23: Yes?

1486
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 15: And who was it?

1487
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 11: Was it?

1488
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 20: Actually?

1489
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 15: Nineteen twelve?

1490
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 2: The Edmonton Oilers.

1491
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 15: It's a pure gifts.

1492
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: No, it's not. You're saying nineteen twelve Edmonton Oilers. And

1493
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 3: what do you say, Sam, I'd say.

1494
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 14: Nineteen twenty two and maybe g I don't know, Oilers again.

1495
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: Okay, nineteen forty two Toronto Maple Leaves.

1496
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 13: Wow.

1497
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 3: So that's as exciting as it gets, is it? That's

1498
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 3: this is sport edits very finest. You've got no idea

1499
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 3: what's going to happen? And what a comeback? A comeback

1500
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 3: for the Ages.

1501
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 15: I don't want not of NHL.

1502
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 14: But when nineteen forty nineteen forty two correct, who was

1503
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 14: playing in goal for the Maple Leafs. Mister ah, surely

1504
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 14: they will have canceled the ice hockey during the war.

1505
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: No, you said no, nineteen forty two wasn't a war year,

1506
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: you idiot? Or was it thirty the war years? Border?

1507
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: Border was the war years forty five to forty seven?

1508
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 3: So forty two wasn't the war it was out hold

1509
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:50,839
Speaker 3: on standby.

1510
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 15: Did the war start in the thirty.

1511
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: Thirty nine to forty five? We'll see thirty forty two?

1512
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: Se was America involved at that point?

1513
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 15: It was right, It was right in the middle of it.

1514
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 14: You need toy, You need to start watching Supercars every

1515
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 14: weekend and go on the bloody history channel.

1516
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: Power nineteen forty Yeah, no, no, you're right, Brooks. I've

1517
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: got confirmation. Google says that this must be true. I

1518
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 3: don't know what they were doing. They must have maybe

1519
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: they had a maybe they had a reduced side. Maybe

1520
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: all the guys on the other team. I don't have

1521
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 3: the details on the other team. Maybe the other guys

1522
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: on the other team got called up for the wall

1523
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 3: and that's why they came back and won.

1524
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 14: The next thing. The next thing, you'll be saying there

1525
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 14: wasn't a war at all, was all made.

1526
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: Up or was stolen? They rang the attorney general. But anyway,

1527
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: that's excited. So that's on tomorrow, so make sure you watch.

1528
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 3: Have you either of you seen the f one this morning?

1529
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 15: I watched the thirty minute highlights. How did Norris blow that?

1530
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 15: The start was terrible and then they were terrible on

1531
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 15: the pets.

1532
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's basically it, and you're probably ruined it now

1533
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:47,520
Speaker 3: for everyone.

1534
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 14: Guys, and you're loving the Euro's might the euro football

1535
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 14: g did he? Have you ever seen more passion than that?

1536
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 14: Haven't watched any of the atmosphere and it's brilliant, mate,

1537
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 14: I thought.

1538
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: Even though Embarpey is a god of a man, he

1539
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 3: looks ridiculous in a mask.

1540
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 15: I haven't seen them where. I saw them fiddle around

1541
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 15: with it in the but I haven't seen him.

1542
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I wed one if I had a broken

1543
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: nose as well. But you know, having said that, all

1544
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying is it doesn't matter how good looking you.

1545
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 15: Are, just don't let it block your eyes when you're

1546
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,879
Speaker 15: reading up about the war, mate, Exactly.

1547
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: I sort of ruined that didn't I because I had

1548
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 3: such an exciting time with the and then it's just

1549
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 3: my history. Let me down anyway, Nice to see you guys.

1550
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Speaker 3: Andrew Sevil guy hebelt it is. It's like twenty three.

1551
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It continued during the war, the war and reconstruction years,

1573
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: NHL continued play, but with a much diluted talent pool,

1574
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: given that most of them, as I suggested, went off

1575
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 3: and joined the war.

1576
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 13: And that was that.

1577
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: So anyway, the nineteen forty two Maple Leaves were the

1578
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 3: last and only team ever to have come back from

1579
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 3: three nil down. So that final game tomorrow for the

1580
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: people who see very few people at gr I get

1581
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 3: this wasn't the point. The point is it's the most

1582
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 3: exciting contest going on in sport in the world at

1583
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: the moment. The fact that we may or may not

1584
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 3: be watching it doesn't make it any more or less excited.

1585
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 3: And you reckon speaking of exciting, Steve Price in a moment.

1586
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

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Speaker 1: Mike my casting Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real

1588
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Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been.

1589
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Speaker 3: Mentioned earlier that Kennedy won't be part of the debate

1590
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: this coming Friday in New Zealand time. He's failed to

1591
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: qualify CNN. Of the hosts of the first one fell

1592
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 3: short of a couple of benchmarks set out by CNN

1593
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: if they had secured a place in the ballot in

1594
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 3: the states totaling two hundred and seventy votes. Problem with that,

1595
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: and this isn't his fault, they claim they did. They've

1596
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 3: got three hundred and ten or of their registered in

1597
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 3: states that have up to three hundred and ten electoral votes,

1598
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 3: but not all of them have affirmed his name. California,

1599
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 3: for example, which is the biggest state that got fifty

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01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: four votes, are not going to sit up by any

1601
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 3: candidates until August twenty nine, so that worked against him.

1602
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 3: But he was also required to reach a polling threshold

1603
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: of fifteen percent in four reliable national polls by June

1604
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 3: twenty couldn't do it, didn't do it, so he's not there.

1605
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 1: Twenty three to nine International correspondence with ends an eye Insurance,

1606
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business and that's.

1607
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: Rights Monday morning, see Price, Very good morning to you.

1608
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 3: Hello there, how's the Dutton nuclear of the elban easy,

1609
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: there's an election coming. Debate going well.

1610
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 22: It got very ugly at the weekend, particularly from Peter

1611
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 22: Dutton's side, and then the old war horse Paul Keating

1612
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 22: lobbed a couple of grenades overnight to Ward Dutton, calling

1613
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 22: him a climate change deniron. But with Paul you just

1614
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 22: got to you know, he just does that every now

1615
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 22: and then's to keep everybody happy. But Peter Dutton was

1616
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 22: at the Liberal Party Federal council mirke on Saturday. He

1617
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 22: outlined how he thought the party could beat Anthony Albaniasi

1618
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 22: the first term labor government. He believes that can win.

1619
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 22: He urged them all to get out there. It must

1620
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 22: get back into government. And then things got really nasty.

1621
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 22: He said in an offscript moment that the Prime Minister

1622
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 22: is a quote nasty and week accused him of telling

1623
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 22: people what they want to here and then this he

1624
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 22: said he as in Anthony Abneasy. Our prime minister is

1625
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 22: a man with a mind still captured in his university years.

1626
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 22: He's a child in a man's body. I think mister

1627
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 22: Albinizi is a decent man who cares deeply about his country.

1628
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 22: But I believe he's completely out of his depth as

1629
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 22: Prime Minister. So that's set up the week. You've got

1630
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 22: a week of parliament coming up. Now there's two weeks

1631
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 22: of sitting into the winter break, and so I expect

1632
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 22: there'll be some more fireworks later during the rest of today.

1633
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 3: Is the subtlety or nuance of the I being captured

1634
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 3: when he talks about a climate change deny. It's not

1635
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 3: about that. It's about the gap between what you got

1636
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 3: in renewables and the day you can turn the renewables

1637
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 3: on in a reliable fashion and the lights go on

1638
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 3: each and every time. In other words, you need something

1639
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 3: in between that's going to solve your problem long term.

1640
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1641
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 22: Look, I'm a naive optimistist called last week on the

1642
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 22: fact that we need to have a mature adult debate

1643
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 22: about this, because I'm about to tell you what's going

1644
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 22: to happen. Because if we don't have a mature debate

1645
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 22: at it, and we keep throwing rocks at each other

1646
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 22: with the country that has extraordinary amount of resources is

1647
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 22: going to end up with no energy. It's just ridiculous.

1648
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 3: Precisely, so, where are you at in terms of because

1649
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 3: we've only just gone back to the gas thing so

1650
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: the previous government here they banned exploration on oil and gas.

1651
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: New government here has just suddenly sort of re energized

1652
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: that and said you can get some licenses. And the

1653
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: debate around here is whether or not there's anyone internationally

1654
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: wants to come back to the country. You at least

1655
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 3: have all of those resources, don't you.

1656
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 22: Yeah, you'd want to hope that they do come back,

1657
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 22: because without gas, certainly in Australia, industries in big trouble.

1658
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 22: The Australian's reporting this morning we've got a crisis on

1659
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 22: two fronts. Victoria's main storage plant is set to run

1660
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 22: out of gas for the end of winter and one

1661
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 22: of the biggest manufacturers said, look, if we don't get

1662
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 22: some reliable gas supplies, we're going to slash jobs and

1663
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 22: closed factories. Now. It can't get any more grim than that.

1664
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 22: Australian reveals today that the Energy regulator bas MOB called

1665
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 22: AEMO caution the industry that the largest supplier of gas

1666
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 22: storage on the East coast of Australia, Lockhart Energy, at

1667
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 22: a place called Iona Facility in northeast Victoria, could run

1668
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 22: out of gas before the end of winter.

1669
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 13: So that's a month and a half a one.

1670
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 22: AEMO said to gas users on Thursday, you need to

1671
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 22: haver what you're taking out of that facility from four

1672
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 22: hundred terror duels down to two hundred to avoid it

1673
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 22: running dry. And ORAKA one of Australia's biggest gas uses

1674
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 22: they make explosives. With the mining industry. They said, look,

1675
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 22: we're going to have to cut production and we're going

1676
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 22: to have to look at sacking people. So there's the

1677
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 22: reality of what happens when you don't take advantage of

1678
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 22: all of the resources that you have a you at

1679
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 22: your disposal.

1680
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 15: It's crazy exactly.

1681
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: So Charles and I mean be grateful he's actually coming

1682
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 3: because he's canceled us. You realize he's going to summer

1683
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: in Australia but not US. So at least you've got

1684
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: your debate between the horse races. At least he's turning up.

1685
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 22: I wonder how that's gone down to New Zealand. King

1686
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 22: Charles the Third obviously battling cancer and these doctors have

1687
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,040
Speaker 22: told him he's got to slim this trip down. A

1688
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 22: biggig debate in Australia was whether he was going to

1689
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 22: go to the Melbourne Cup or whether he's going to

1690
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 22: turn up at this thing at Randwick in Sydney call

1691
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 22: the Everest, where they have a cheeky boss in charge

1692
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 22: of racing and rugby league voc called Peter Velandi's And

1693
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 22: what he's done is he's named a race up to

1694
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 22: Charles at the Everest on that day. The King happens

1695
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 22: to be in the country when that race meeting's on.

1696
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 22: And guess what, He's not going to go to the

1697
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 22: Melbourne Cup. He's going to go to the King Charles

1698
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 22: the third Stakes at Randwick instead.

1699
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 3: Pretty clever.

1700
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 15: Hey.

1701
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: By the way, given you're from Adelaide, do you know

1702
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 3: the Westfield Marion shopping center.

1703
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 22: I certainly do. My mother goes there most weeks.

1704
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: Okay ninety Well yesterday thrown into lockdown after a mass

1705
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 3: brawl involving up to twenty youth one at least wielding

1706
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,480
Speaker 3: a machete. Is that sort of thing unusual in Australia?

1707
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 22: Well, I hope you hope that it's unusual. I mean, obviously,

1708
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 22: is it a copycat of what took place at Bondi Junction.

1709
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 22: You'd hope not where six people, of course lost their lives,

1710
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 22: but the scenes and you would have seen them on TV.

1711
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 22: News last night of those years rampaging through that Trabge.

1712
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 22: It's a massive west field. I think it's either the

1713
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 22: first or second largest in the country. And to shut

1714
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 22: that down on a Sunday, a huge number of people

1715
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 22: locked in behind security bars, it's just horrendous.

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Speaker 3: Exactly see Wednesday might preciate up very much steep price

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Speaker 3: out of Australia. By the way, can I recommend, thoroughly

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Speaker 3: recommend this. A guy called Jeffrey Robertson, who's a particularly

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01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 3: famous Australian human rights barrister and author, exceedingly brainy sort

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01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 3: of person, been around for many, many years. But what

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01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know is he mentored kias Starmer and as

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 3: the Australian most closely connected with his career. I offered

1723
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 3: some thoughts about his likely governance, and I didn't know

1724
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 3: enough about the background of Starmer. I knew he was

1725
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 3: a lawyer, but he got a very very solid degree

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01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 3: at Oxford and he went and ended up working for Robertson,

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01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 3: and Robertson tells a lovely story about how they He

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01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 3: took on one of the first things he did. Our

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01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 3: first case was against the Government of Denmark, and I

1730
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,879
Speaker 3: took Starma to Strasbourg to argue it in the European

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01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 3: Court of Human Rights, where Denmark had never lost. Starmer

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01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 3: forgot his passport and was held in custody by the

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01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 3: gendarmes until with the help of the British Council, was

1734
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 3: secured his release in time for his debut in court.

1735
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 3: The Danes were so confident that he had offered free

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01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 3: trips to law students to watch them win again. But

1737
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 3: we showed that their court system, in which judges who

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01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 3: denied bail to defendants would then sit as their trial

1739
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 3: judge and find them guilty, breached the rule that defendants

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01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 3: must have in partial judges. Starmer gave the students a

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01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 3: seminar about their government's mistakes and went on to write

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01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 3: several important textbooks on human rights law in Europe. And

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01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 3: he sort of tells you who he is, where he's

1744
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: come from, what he's about, how bright he is, and

1745
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 3: it's well worth read because he's going to be the

1746
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: next British Prime minister. But say you can look that up, Jeffrey,

1747
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 3: just google Jeffrey Robertson. You'll find that sixteen away from

1748
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 3: nine the cost Racist, thirteen away from nine, Mike, with

1749
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 3: the increased demand for energy in many countries struggling to

1750
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 3: meet it, how much is bitcoin and another crypto contributing?

1751
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 3: Very good question? A lot is the archs. I don't

1752
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 3: know specifically, but I was reading about data centers over

1753
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: the weekend, and none of us seem to have thought

1754
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: about this. The amount of energy required to run data centers,

1755
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 3: of which there are more and more in this country.

1756
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: And for a while there we thought that was a

1757
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: good thing. It probably still is ultimately, but we thought

1758
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 3: it was a good thing. And your Microsoft's and everything

1759
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 3: invest into the country, bringing jobs and money and all

1760
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. So crypto data centers AI, of

1761
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: course in heinous the amount of energy required to run AI,

1762
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 3: and that's only just beginning. And then of course you

1763
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 3: get to the EV. So the world simply does not

1764
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 3: have enough resource to pump all of this stuff out,

1765
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 3: and that's why we don't know what to do, basically,

1766
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: and why we're in the trouble we're in. Mike, are

1767
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: you going to like me wake up at one o'clock

1768
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 3: am Friday to watch the Trump Biden de Banke Niko,

1769
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 3: I've got very very good news for you, very very

1770
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 3: good news for you. Indeed, it's not one am, so

1771
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: please don't wake up at one am on Friday, because

1772
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 3: you're going to be bitterly disappointed. That'll make it nine

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01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning East Coast time. And it is

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01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 3: indeed one o'clock in the afternoon New Zealand time, nine

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01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: o'clock at night that you need to be well, not

1776
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: at wake because you should be awake at one in

1777
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 3: the art noon. But it's one o'clock in the afternoon Friday,

1778
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: which is Thursday night there time. Now this once again,

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01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 3: the problem with these boot camps has announced yesterday. I

1780
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 3: mean we won't announceder is just updated yesterday. So next

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01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: month the boot camps begin. They're adjusting the judicial process

1782
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: for young OFFENDUS fourteen through seventeen year old's judges are

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01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 3: going to be able to sentence these people to these

1784
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: boot camps. And all you ever hear on the news

1785
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 3: is wa, wow, that ain't well, it's not fair And

1786
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 3: seemingly I don't know why, maybe he's one of the

1787
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 3: few in the industry, but every newsroom in this country

1788
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 3: rings up Aaron Hendry. Good old Aaron, do we need

1789
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: to find a negative voice on why boot camps won't work.

1790
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 3: Look under h and the roll thedecks for Henry Aaron High,

1791
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 3: can we get you to say the same thing you've

1792
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 3: said about nine thousand times before, how it won't work?

1793
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: There's a In fact, there's a story floating around this

1794
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 3: morning for radio in New Zealand the government is pushing

1795
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 3: ahead with boot camps despite opposition parties in Youth Justice

1796
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: ad for Gets insisting there is no evidence they will work.

1797
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 3: So anyway, I've got a little something for you. There's

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01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: a twelve day military style boot camp run in Susan River, Queensland,

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: is called Operation Yaka. It boasts a old dear Oh no,

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01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: it boasts a ninety percent success rate. Has Aaron heard

1801
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 3: about this? What does an our newsroom ring up? Aaron

1802
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 3: tell him about the ninety percent success rate? State government

1803
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 3: withdrew funding in twenty fifteen, so it now relies on donations. Now,

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01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: the owner of the camp is a guy called Bob Davies.

1805
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 3: And this is how the mentre works.

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01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 24: There's two major concepts about the program. Respect and attitude.

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01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 24: We've got to build a respect up between them and

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01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 24: us and their own respect for themselves exactly, and also

1809
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 24: have the correct attitude.

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01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 3: Right, and so's he needs some government support. Obviously.

1811
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 24: Fathers and mothers both crying on the phone. They're emotional,

1812
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 24: they've burnt out, They've just don't know where else it turn.

1813
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 24: They're damn good parents, but they're not getting the support.

1814
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,799
Speaker 24: They're not getting the backing from the government.

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01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 3: So government of getting behind this in this particular part

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01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 3: of the world. One of the kids in the program,

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01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 3: realizing he was on the wrong path. I can see

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01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: what I've done to my parents now, definitely sorry about that.

1819
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 3: I can see my little brother's future if I keep

1820
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 3: carrying on. So let's try some things. This is bluxon yesterday.

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01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 3: Let's try some things. Let's have a different approach, Let's

1822
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: do something different to try and get a different set

1823
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: of outcomes. Their target is to reduce youth offending by

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01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 3: fifteen percent. So all the people are go and saying

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01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 3: does no evidence that works? I'm sorry. Have a look

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01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,799
Speaker 3: at Operation Yaka in Australia. They're claiming a ninety percent

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01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 3: success rate. Night Away from Nome.

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01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: The MYC hosting rapists where the Bailey's estate use dogs.

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01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 3: Elon Musk, I'm not the world's biggest fan of Elon Musk.

1830
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 3: But one of the things of his I do have

1831
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 3: is the Starlink, and it seems to work fine. Mainly

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01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 3: difficulty was that the system we had in the country

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01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 3: that ran beforehand worked fine as well. So I'm not

1834
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 3: one of those people who can go, oh, you should

1835
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: have seen the system we had that was absolutely useless,

1836
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: and then we got starlink and it works so much better.

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01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 3: It seemed to be I think, unfortunately not to throw

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01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 3: my wife under a bus, but I think she decided

1839
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 3: one day that we needed something different, so we got

1840
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 3: something different. It works just as well as what we

1841
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 3: had before. So starlink works. Anyway. He's announcing they've got

1842
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: Starlink Mini, and this is clever because it's five ninety nine.

1843
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 3: This is in America. I wouldn't have a clever it

1844
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 3: ever gets here and how much it's going to cost.

1845
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: But for six hundred bucks it does. You pay one

1846
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty a month for fifty gigabytes of data.

1847
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: It's mobile. You put it in your backpack. It's just

1848
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: a little tiny thing and you go camping with it

1849
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 3: or whatever fits in the backpack. Designed despite high speed,

1850
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 3: low latency Internet on the go, so next time you're

1851
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 3: at camping, you whip up your Starlin Mini and you're

1852
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: connected to the world. That strikes me as genuinely useful.

1853
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: I like good ideas. Five minutes away from nine trending.

1854
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: Now Humous Square House your home of winter assentials.

1855
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 3: Now we've got a bit of local trending.

1856
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: This morning.

1857
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 3: People have gone and dug through the archives of the

1858
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,919
Speaker 3: last couple of years of John Tamahirie, you know John Tammahiri,

1859
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 3: and they found a Facebook live that he did back

1860
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: in October of twenty two. On the call is Mona

1861
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 3: roya Maria chair Ringy McLean and somebody called Takata tash Kemp,

1862
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 3: the one that was the former Manaewa Maria chief executive

1863
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 3: who is being investigated and who also might have some

1864
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 3: trouble with the band used during the election campaign. So

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01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: this is this is Joe. Let's listen to what John says.

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01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 25: Remember eighth of October, people, and you've got to get

1867
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 25: to your finer. And they've made it very difficult for

1868
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 25: our people to vote. There's no post office boxes. You've

1869
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 25: got to get the voting forms to our people. Don't

1870
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 25: wony about ticking anyone else. And file, put them, put

1871
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 25: them in the boxes that are available. So this is

1872
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 25: our last push for our three candidates here tonights and

1873
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 25: just got to you just got to motivate your fan.

1874
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 25: Get on the phone, go around the houses, pick up

1875
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 25: their voting forms, tick the boxes for them. That's probably illegal,

1876
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 25: but I'm asking you to do it anyway. The whole

1877
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 25: system has brought it against us, right, you've got to

1878
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 25: level it up them now.

1879
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 3: Just wondering if that's part of the investigation or if

1880
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 3: it wasn't, whether it is now. And the thing about

1881
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 3: that is, he's so condescending, isn't he to his own people?

1882
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 3: Because somehow, Yes, because you're Maori, you're so thick and

1883
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 3: so stupid, you need a letter box. And if you

1884
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 3: don't have a letter box, will do it for you.

1885
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 3: I mean, can't wait for one o'clock this afternoon. Actually,

1886
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: it's a big day between Razor. It's that five thirty,

1887
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: isn't it? So five point thirty for Razor, But we've

1888
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 3: got the one o'clock transpower, and I reckon the one

1889
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 3: o'clock transpower is going to be the good one, isn't it.

1890
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 3: I Mean, how do you explain people taking bolts out

1891
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 3: and it falls over less. Of course, as I keep saying,

1892
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 3: let's you know, they've found something really miraculous, no one's

1893
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 3: thought about it over the weekend. Then you've got the

1894
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 3: postcab press conference with the Prime Minister and the fairies

1895
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 3: and the planes and all that sort of stuff. So

1896
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 3: this is going to be a good day. We're back

1897
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning with Razor by the way after eight o'clock.

1898
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: Look for to your company as always, and as always,

1899
01:28:59,320 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 3: happy days.

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