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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Matt and Tyle a full show podcast number

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Speaker 3: two four six four Wednesday, the nineteenth of November.

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Speaker 2: What a show.

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Speaker 4: Huge.

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Speaker 2: We took it to the sky with.

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Speaker 3: S Stuart stories, Yeah, flight attendant stories.

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Speaker 2: That got pretty sexual, certainly did.

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Speaker 3: And before that we talked about something.

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Speaker 2: Else, AI chat. That's right, that was good. That was

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Speaker 2: deep AI and art, very philosophical.

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Speaker 3: And then we finished it with VIP experiences at concerts

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Speaker 3: and we had a reappearance of Jess Davidson from the

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Speaker 3: country dot Cot and Zi had about her experiences with

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Speaker 2: That was a crazy story. Yeah, crazy story.

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Speaker 3: So it's a really really good show.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy it's download, subscribe and tell everyone you know.

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Speaker 3: And near the end, Jim Bolger turns up at a

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Speaker 3: year and all.

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Speaker 2: Right, classic Jim Bulger.

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Speaker 5: Love your big stories, the big issues, the big trends

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

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Speaker 2: Talk said Bee today to you. Welcome into a Wednesday show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for giving us A listeners always

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Speaker 2: we love you being part of the show and appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Matt Heath heat and so good. Thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: You're going to New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is tragic the story that's just come through

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Speaker 3: from Renee about the Metallica show tonight. Hi guys, great

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Speaker 3: show is always Thanks Renee.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: My partner and his mate's book The Metallic Accommodation in

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Speaker 3: feb yesterday the Dave Chicken. They got an email from

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Speaker 3: booking dot com to say it had been canceled, despite

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Speaker 3: the money paid and no replies to the many calls

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Speaker 3: we made to the host. A quick search we found

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Speaker 3: it and a new listing at seven times the price,

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Speaker 3: no exaggeration. They were already in transit. Now I've got

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Speaker 3: four grown up bogans on my elderly mum's lounge floor.

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Speaker 2: Good only, but looking after the bogans, it's dirty. It's

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Speaker 3: So they got a hit of the time and booked

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Speaker 3: it in fear. But at the start of the year

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Speaker 3: big Metallica fans, and then at some point in the

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Speaker 3: last week the people running the ACoM have gone, actually

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Speaker 3: we can we can rent this out for seven times.

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Speaker 3: So let's just screw over the people that got in early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean fight there. You've got to take

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Speaker 2: that further, take it all the way to the top

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Speaker 2: booking dot com. A little bit dirty, but also, come on,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that. Surely there's got to be laws

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Speaker 2: against that sort of behavior.

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Speaker 3: But then again, maybe the four grown up bogans will

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Speaker 3: be quite comfortably on comfortable on the elderly mum's lounge floor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah truebody money. Yeah, maybe the elderly mum will enjoy

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Speaker 3: having four grown up bogans on our floor. So maybe

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Speaker 3: it'll turn out to be the best possible thing.

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Speaker 2: Nice, that is the silver lining in that situation. Hopefully.

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Speaker 2: All right to today's show after three o'clock. Speaking of

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Speaker 2: Metallic Or, it is a sold out show in Auckland tonight.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are physine. It's been sometimes since

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Speaker 2: I've been in New Zealand. But let's have a chat

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Speaker 2: about VIP experiences. So the one on offer at the

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Speaker 2: Metal show is just under four thousand dollars and this

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Speaker 2: includes an exclusive viewing area, a meet and greet and

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Speaker 2: photo with two bad members. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: can pick which band members a backstage, two pre show party,

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Speaker 2: free drinks, Cannape's Priority Lanes, exclusive merch, and a recording

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Speaker 2: of the concerts. So there's quite a lot in there.

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Speaker 2: The next step down from that was just under a grand,

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Speaker 2: and that includes access to the snake pit, the pre

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Speaker 3: If I could pick two, it would be James and

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Speaker 2: Right, no, Lars, probably skip Lars.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know poor I'm a big fan of Kirk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, James would be right up there. You've got to

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Speaker 3: Oh anyway, I grew handlebar mystags just to be like

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Speaker 2: At one point. It looks good on you. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, that's not the point of what we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Have these VIP experiences worth it? Eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 2: They certainly are. That is after three after two o'clock,

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Speaker 2: around twelve hundred in New Zealand cabin crew have voted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd love to hear from air Stuart's hostesses, hosts

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Speaker 2: You've done it again.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing how angry people get if you just if

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Speaker 3: Air hostess, air hostess, or air hosts, Air Stewart Steward, yeah,

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Speaker 3: interested what it's like as a job, because sixty thousand

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Speaker 3: It seems very glamorous. So is it as bad as

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Speaker 3: to hear from you, looking forward to that. That is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting and we've got to make it clear

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Speaker 3: with these authors, Elizabeth Smither and Stephanie Johnson. They wrote

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Speaker 2: There's a feeling of being cheated. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting for me because I run an AI,

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't want and I know that that chat GPT.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I'll just be interested to know I eighty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very renowned.

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Speaker 3: We're not nationwide for the start of air show, so

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Speaker 3: have heard it. But I was talking about Reck Rubin,

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Speaker 2: Of all time. And he said that AI doesn't have.

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Speaker 3: A point of view because it's not a it's not

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Speaker 3: as meaningful to other humans because it doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: point of view. So do you want your artist to

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Speaker 2: You not care? And it's fine that it's AI. Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 2: to call love to get your thoughts on this. So

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Speaker 2: when it comes to creative farts, what do you value

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Speaker 2: more the idea behind the work or the human touch

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Speaker 2: and its execution, and where does the line for you

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Speaker 2: when it comes to AI? Use this.

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Speaker 3: Texas says AI has a more human feel and vibe

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Speaker 3: than Metallica.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Wool says Tony, that's harsh. I disagree for old Metallica.

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Speaker 2: They are still humans those guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, the trials and tribulations that James has

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Speaker 3: It absolutely couldn't be more human. I mean they lost

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Speaker 3: a member. Yeah, Hi, Matt, you have a soul and

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Speaker 2: The documentary Richie mccaugh I was called. It was called

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Speaker 2: John? Get a John?

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Speaker 2: Okay, John, I wanted to have a chat about the

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Speaker 11: Yeah, do you guys know what the terrier is for

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, although the the the the authors didn't have

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Speaker 11: I would not consider it. I don't AI is going

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Speaker 11: Documentary clips on YouTube, I watch whether you as you said,

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Speaker 11: AI can be manipulated. All the alleged ruth of grams

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: We're up for This is a country.

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Speaker 2: Z B Afternoon. We are talking about AI and creative industries.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear your thoughts about where is the

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Speaker 3: What if someone wrote a book about an AI artist

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Speaker 3: how very clever that is. It is entirely unfair. These

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Speaker 2: It's all just politics.

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Speaker 3: My worries says this text is we'll see Trump or

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Speaker 3: Someone tried it recently in Britain with some politician who

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Speaker 3: was seen snorting like lines of cocaine in his room

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Speaker 3: or whatever, and he was like, it's AI generated.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it is. It's hard to you know, Dallas,

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Speaker 2: AI and art.

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Speaker 14: Your thoughts, guys, how come every time there's a cricket

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Speaker 14: match scheduled in Corksbay, it rains.

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Speaker 3: What's sad about it? You remember a few years ago

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Speaker 3: in McLean Park it didn't rain, but they left the

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Speaker 3: sprinklers on on.

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Speaker 2: Round the park.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, if there's ever a drought in that area, put

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Speaker 3: on a cricket match.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I wonder if that's controlled by a simulation

455
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Speaker 14: somewhere in the sky. But if you want a really

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Speaker 14: good interview, that's John Stewart, one of the brightest minds

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Speaker 14: of course, and Jeffrey Hinton, the father of well AI developed,

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Speaker 14: you know, all things AI. Has a great interview Jean

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Speaker 14: John Stewart.

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Speaker 7: Have you seen that one?

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't, but I do watch a lot of

462
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Speaker 3: John Stuart content, so I'm a big fan, so I'll

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Speaker 3: check that out.

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Speaker 14: It's a month old now. It's fantastic that they just

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Speaker 14: go into so many aspects of AI, coming threats and

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Speaker 14: China and just everything. It's all aspects. It's really fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I did hear that guy just quickly, Dallas Jeffrey Hinton

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Speaker 2: on a podcast recently. It was pretty terrifying. Diary read

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Speaker 2: the CEO podcast. But yeah, I mean he was talking

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Speaker 2: about the jobs that won't exist and the future of

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Speaker 2: AI and that flip of a coin, what way it's

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Speaker 2: going to go. It's fascinating.

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Speaker 3: If you read the best book you'd ever read and

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Speaker 3: it made you cry and you found out it was Ai,

475
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Speaker 3: how would you feel, Dallas.

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Speaker 14: Oh geez. Well, the thing is it's insidious, like as

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Speaker 14: it is, Like, you know, we manipulate images, don't we

478
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Speaker 14: for a cover, if you've got to cover a book, Yeah,

479
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Speaker 14: it's manipulated in some way. It's going to be enhanced,

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Speaker 14: It's going to be manipulated in some way by the

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Speaker 14: help of machinery.

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Speaker 7: And tech technology.

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Speaker 14: Isn't it every book cover?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because as I said before, Adobe all through it

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Speaker 3: it's got a i you know, assistance in your in

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Speaker 3: your design.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So it's insidious. So like where where's that line drawn?

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know, even in our Facebook photos, selfies

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Speaker 14: we take, we sort of usually enhance them with filters

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Speaker 14: or something like that. So is anything you have seen

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Speaker 14: an actual image of a real person anymore?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: It's I mean it's a little bit concerning. Do you

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Speaker 3: think we might start craving the real though and perfections

497
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Speaker 3: and the human side of things as everything becomes more

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Speaker 3: and more perfect in Ali?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that and also I think we're going to demand

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Speaker 14: that everything is labeled, like I think on YouTube clips

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Speaker 14: now it says at the bottom right generated by AI.

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Speaker 3: I won't watch anything. I won't I won't watch any

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Speaker 3: of that stuff.

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Speaker 5: Dallas, Well, we've got to demand.

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Speaker 14: We're going to demand that you say upfront that say

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Speaker 14: I generate it for a start at least, so then

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Speaker 14: we know at least what we're watching, so that you know,

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Speaker 14: don't you agree we should?

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Speaker 7: That should be a law.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I also agree with you the interesting line

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Speaker 3: of it being so insidiou, isn't it, because say, for example,

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Speaker 3: when I'm writing, I'll use grammarly, which is you know,

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Speaker 3: a grammar software AI based grammar software to go through

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Speaker 3: and it suggests changes in the sentence. So arguably that

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Speaker 3: makes me a much better writer than I actually am.

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Speaker 14: So what we need is a book from from you,

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Speaker 14: Matt's pile in your your own spelling, no.

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Speaker 15: Spell check.

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Speaker 3: In that if you see in the eraror does that

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Speaker 3: because someone just texted they went to a website of

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Speaker 3: mine and they texted in that it was a spelling

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Speaker 3: eraror on it that in some way is now a

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Speaker 3: sort of a badge of honor.

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Speaker 2: Because it suggests that you're a human. It's a flex.

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Speaker 2: Now mistakes are a flex.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So anyway, good discussion and keep it going, keep

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Speaker 14: it going to two hours. Gid, it's a good discussion.

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Speaker 2: And Dallas, Yep, we'll ever think about that, but it's

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Speaker 2: certainly a good discussion for the time being. And love

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Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts on O eight one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten. AI and the creative industries. Where is the

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Speaker 2: line for you?

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Speaker 3: Genny says, Hey, guys, I appreciate the author of the

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Speaker 3: books I read. I enjoy listening to them being interviewed.

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Speaker 3: I John Grisham's life interests me to name but one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is interesting. But what about Jack Reacher? So those

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Speaker 3: those books, you know, it's a pseudonym, and then he

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Speaker 3: just swapped out for his brother, didn't he.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I'll just it was his brother just started

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Speaker 2: his brother, Yeah, yeah, to take over the Jeck Reacher series.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 3: And then there's the June series that Frank Kubert's son

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Speaker 3: started writing. Yeah, so that's kind of an interesting thing

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: That's a little bit deceitful, but oh, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylan. So we are talking about

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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence when it comes to creative industries. In this case,

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Speaker 2: it was the Ockham Book Awards where two novels written

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Speaker 2: by a very renowned, famous New Zealand authors were disqualified

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Speaker 2: because not because of the content, but because the covers.

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Speaker 2: The book covers were AI generated. Henry says, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: great discussion.

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Speaker 3: So if we can't allow AI for creative arts, how

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Speaker 3: can James Cameron win an oscar for Avatar? That's AI

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Speaker 3: from start to finish. Well, there might be some AI

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Speaker 3: tools you I'm not sure, but that is three D animators,

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Speaker 3: you know, applying their craft, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: skill in the animation that goes into those films, and

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Speaker 3: everything's filmed and there's a lot going on in there.

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Speaker 3: So it's not just a prompt. Although interestingly enough, Open AI,

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Speaker 3: who makes JT GBT, has got this plan to prove

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Speaker 3: that generitive artificial intelligence can make movies faster and cheaper

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Speaker 3: than Hollywood movies do today, and so they're making this film.

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Speaker 3: They're partnering with a big AI company, I mean a

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Speaker 3: big Hollywood studio. I'm not sure who it is to

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Speaker 3: make an AI animated film, but the idea for it

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Speaker 3: is also generated by chat GPT, and it sounds so

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Speaker 3: chat GPT. It's called Critters c r I T T

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Speaker 3: e r Z, about forest creatures who go on an

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Speaker 3: adventure after their village is disrupted by a stranger. It's

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Speaker 3: the brainchild of Chad Nelson, a creative specialist at Open AI.

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Speaker 3: So they've asked for a prompt for a kid's animated

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Speaker 3: film and it's come back with Critters, about forest creatures

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Speaker 3: who go on an animated adventure after their village is

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Speaker 3: disrupted by a stranger. It sounds like what you'd expect

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Speaker 3: if someone asked you to come up with a Pixar

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Speaker 3: type movie.

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Speaker 2: Unoriginal, absolutely, I mean just that we blue there and.

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Speaker 3: The first characters are like uffy kind of friendly, big

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Speaker 3: eyed monsters.

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Speaker 2: Exactly how do you expect?

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Speaker 5: I mean, the.

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Speaker 3: Creativity that I'm seeing so far from critics.

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Speaker 2: Is not great, pretty low effort, but it will be

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Speaker 2: cheap yeah, yeah, and was that what you want to

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Speaker 2: see in a movie is cheaply made.

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Speaker 3: Critics has been budgeted at less than thirty million, far

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Speaker 3: less than what animated films topically costs. The production team

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Speaker 3: plans to cast human actors for the voices, but the

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Speaker 3: animation will be done with using tools that are currently

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Speaker 3: available and check GPT five.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that, Peter. How are you?

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Speaker 15: Oh, I'm great, mate, I'm great. How are you?

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Speaker 7: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Very well? Now you're writing a book at the moment,

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Speaker 2: is that right?

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Speaker 15: Yeah? Yeah, I'm on my third book. The first book,

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Speaker 15: I was contacted by a publishing firm to the writer

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Speaker 15: and they said, oh, we need it out before Christmas.

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Speaker 15: And this was about September, and I said, hell, guys,

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Speaker 15: sometimes it takes the three months to write a check.

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Speaker 15: You expect me to write three months. So they got

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Speaker 15: a ghost writer in and he sat there and you know,

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Speaker 15: I told my stories, and sure enough the book was

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Speaker 15: published and it actually ended up on one of the

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Speaker 15: time five top best seller books for that year. Then

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Speaker 15: I had some e C material left. I decided to

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Speaker 15: write another book, and this time I got some advice

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Speaker 15: from me the guy who was my ghost writer, and

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Speaker 15: I started doing it myself and it worked out, and

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Speaker 15: that was another good book. But the third one, my

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Speaker 15: daughter said, why don't you get AI to help you?

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Speaker 15: And I'm you know, I'm in my mid seventies, I'm

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Speaker 15: not a techno kid. I knew nothing about it. But

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Speaker 15: she set me up on the chat BT TVT and

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Speaker 15: I thought, well, that might be handy because I had

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Speaker 15: done all this three hand writing and I you know,

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Speaker 15: spelling and everything just went out the window when you're

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Speaker 15: when you're writing things down so far and anyway, So

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Speaker 15: I started reciting this to this computer system and it

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Speaker 15: started off all right. It was fixing the spelling mistakes,

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Speaker 15: changing the grammar slightly, and I felt rather strange talking

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Speaker 15: at this computer to this character on the other end,

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Speaker 15: which I gave the name. I called him Bob. And anyway, Bob,

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Speaker 15: he gets a couple of paragraphs and then I'll send

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Speaker 15: those back and they'd come back and they'd be different

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Speaker 15: from what I'd said. And I'd got onto it. I

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Speaker 15: wrote down, I want you to write the way that

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Speaker 15: I am talking to you, or you know, talking on it.

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Speaker 15: Oh yes, yes, no, trouble, you know, we'll do it

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Speaker 15: that way. And it just carried on like I I

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Speaker 15: had somebody stuck it back inside the computer screen and

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Speaker 15: I'm talking to them, and I felt really stupid.

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Speaker 3: Terrible guest lighting from AI Bob.

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Speaker 2: The Peter Bob was a prep.

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Speaker 15: To be honest. What happened as I got through the

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Speaker 15: first chapter, Bob said, I'll tidy that up and send

660
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Speaker 15: it back and you can read it and then we

661
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Speaker 15: can pass it through to word. So anyway, I got

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Speaker 15: this chapter back, I started reading it. I said, I

663
00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:44,693
Speaker 15: didn't write this shit. Sorry, I didn't write this rubbish.

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Speaker 15: You know, he had changed the whole concept. I don't

665
00:31:49,293 --> 00:31:53,533
Speaker 15: talk like that. This is my story, but with Bob's

666
00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:57,693
Speaker 15: squary words, and it wasn't me. And in the end

667
00:31:57,733 --> 00:32:02,653
Speaker 15: I got so frustrated with it that I sent Bob

668
00:32:02,693 --> 00:32:05,893
Speaker 15: a message and I said, Bob, you know this is

669
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Speaker 15: not what I wanted. And I got a thing back saying, oh,

670
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Speaker 15: I seem to have botched up there, and I says,

671
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Speaker 15: you know what, Bob, You're fired. And I went back

672
00:32:15,693 --> 00:32:19,133
Speaker 15: to the typewriter, the old two fingers, and I'm just

673
00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:21,413
Speaker 15: just in the process of any I didn't get a

674
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Speaker 15: good experience with it at all, because it just took

675
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Speaker 15: over my book basically.

676
00:32:26,813 --> 00:32:29,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so it wasn't it wasn't helping you, it

677
00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:33,533
Speaker 3: was replacing you. Peter, you don't want that exactly.

678
00:32:34,013 --> 00:32:37,293
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know, I might have tidied up my spelling,

679
00:32:37,373 --> 00:32:41,493
Speaker 15: but certainly some of the flowery language he'd put into

680
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Speaker 15: a sentence is not me. And I thought, nah, nah,

681
00:32:46,933 --> 00:32:50,853
Speaker 15: this is not me. It's somebody else or some of

682
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Speaker 15: whatever it is in that computer is now taking over

683
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Speaker 15: my personality.

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Speaker 7: And I didn't like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well thanks, you called Peter, and you can't be

686
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:03,813
Speaker 3: that's that's I guess why it's ruled out and winning

687
00:33:03,853 --> 00:33:06,093
Speaker 3: awards that the writing of the book, but in this

688
00:33:07,133 --> 00:33:08,893
Speaker 3: story that we're talking about here, So the covers of

689
00:33:08,893 --> 00:33:12,093
Speaker 3: the book can't be AI as well to be eligible

690
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Speaker 3: for the sixty five thousand dollars award. I know in

691
00:33:15,173 --> 00:33:17,933
Speaker 3: my book contract there was I can't remember what. There's

692
00:33:18,293 --> 00:33:20,693
Speaker 3: clear you sign that there's clearly not going to be

693
00:33:20,693 --> 00:33:21,373
Speaker 3: an AI book.

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00:33:21,453 --> 00:33:25,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is fair. Yeah, because I paid you, I imagine, yeah,

695
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Speaker 2: pretty good money for your perspective on the story that

696
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Speaker 2: you're telling and your creative output. But to farm that out.

697
00:33:31,773 --> 00:33:35,853
Speaker 3: But the gray area sits between using AI for your

698
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Speaker 3: grammar and that kind of thing.

699
00:33:38,853 --> 00:33:39,013
Speaker 2: Right.

700
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tried to use AI in my book to

701
00:33:42,173 --> 00:33:45,653
Speaker 3: try and put the bibliography together. Oh yes, because I've

702
00:33:45,933 --> 00:33:48,293
Speaker 3: read hundreds and hundreds of box to make my one

703
00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:50,733
Speaker 3: book and it was really punishing at the end of

704
00:33:50,733 --> 00:33:52,533
Speaker 3: the book to get through to get the you know,

705
00:33:52,573 --> 00:33:55,293
Speaker 3: the referencing done properly. So I tried to see if

706
00:33:55,293 --> 00:33:57,773
Speaker 3: AI could do it, and it just lied everything. It

707
00:33:57,853 --> 00:34:00,013
Speaker 3: was so sure that this page is where I got

708
00:34:00,013 --> 00:34:01,773
Speaker 3: that quote from from this book, and when you checked

709
00:34:01,813 --> 00:34:03,813
Speaker 3: that it was always wrong. All of it was wrong,

710
00:34:04,093 --> 00:34:06,653
Speaker 3: but delivered to me with absolute certainty. So the one

711
00:34:06,693 --> 00:34:08,732
Speaker 3: part of my book that I tried to use A on,

712
00:34:08,813 --> 00:34:11,053
Speaker 3: which was just an admin job, they totally cocked.

713
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Speaker 2: It'll leat you down right. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

714
00:34:13,293 --> 00:34:15,573
Speaker 2: eighty is that number to call. I'd love to get

715
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Speaker 2: your view on where the line is for you when

716
00:34:17,453 --> 00:34:20,293
Speaker 2: it comes to AI and creative industries, whether that's writing

717
00:34:20,293 --> 00:34:22,453
Speaker 2: a book or making a movie. Ninet two nine till

718
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:23,292
Speaker 2: was a text as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you stopped watching or reading or engaging with

720
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Speaker 3: something because you've worked out that it is AI This

721
00:34:28,493 --> 00:34:31,893
Speaker 3: Texas says, Hey, guys, AI, what would you think if

722
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Speaker 3: you woke up in the morning to the best love

723
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Speaker 3: night you've ever had, then noticed that your new friend

724
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Speaker 3: plugged in and started charging themselves.

725
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Speaker 2: It's a very deep question. I haven't thought about that,

726
00:34:41,853 --> 00:34:44,773
Speaker 2: but I'll give that some consideration. Yeah, mull that one over.

727
00:34:44,773 --> 00:34:46,212
Speaker 2: Thanks for Yeah, thank you very much.

728
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh eight

729
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

730
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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons news talks.

731
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Speaker 2: The'd be very good afternoon. So we are talking about

732
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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence when it comes to creative industries like book

733
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Speaker 2: covers in a very famous instance this week in New

734
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Speaker 2: Zealand and movies, et cetera. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

735
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Speaker 3: Is that number of call evidence is there that you

736
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Speaker 3: guys aren't actually AI generated and you're just purposely adding

737
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Speaker 3: speech eras and fact there as we're talking to make

738
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Speaker 3: you sound more human.

739
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Speaker 2: James. See, that's the thing. That's how AI heights Tyler.

740
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Speaker 3: Not being able to pronounce most words is that's just

741
00:35:24,933 --> 00:35:28,613
Speaker 3: hiding he's AI and plain side You got me, James,

742
00:35:28,613 --> 00:35:31,053
Speaker 3: he's actually a beautiful fembot sit in front of me.

743
00:35:31,173 --> 00:35:33,652
Speaker 2: Right now, you're a lucky man, Matt Heath. Right, we've

744
00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,652
Speaker 2: got to play some messages because after that we're gonna

745
00:35:36,693 --> 00:35:39,652
Speaker 2: have a chat to Michelle Hurley, who is the spokesperson

746
00:35:39,693 --> 00:35:42,613
Speaker 2: for the Publisher's Association of New Zealand and get her

747
00:35:42,653 --> 00:35:46,533
Speaker 2: thoughts about the emerging artificial intelligence when it comes to publishing.

748
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Speaker 2: That is coming up next to it is nine minutes

749
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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

751
00:35:54,533 --> 00:35:57,173
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

752
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Speaker 1: Afternoons News dogsv.

753
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Speaker 2: News Talks B six to two.

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Speaker 3: One thing that makes humans human is our creativity and art.

755
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Speaker 3: We shouldn't just pawn that off to computer is nicely said. Well, yeah,

756
00:36:10,893 --> 00:36:15,013
Speaker 3: and as Rick Rubin said, AI doesn't have a point

757
00:36:15,013 --> 00:36:16,693
Speaker 3: of view, what if AI does get a point of

758
00:36:16,733 --> 00:36:19,933
Speaker 3: view and it has an experience and it's experienced hardship.

759
00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:20,013
Speaker 2: In its life.

760
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's AGI might be a bit different as

761
00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:24,453
Speaker 3: opposed to the large language models now which are just

762
00:36:24,853 --> 00:36:31,293
Speaker 3: taking all of human text and content and repurposing it

763
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Speaker 3: using an algorithm.

764
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Speaker 2: For it's the most likely next unit to pop up.

765
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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, I can't even write a text without a

766
00:36:38,253 --> 00:36:41,853
Speaker 3: bloody meta AI deciding to change it to a better

767
00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:44,693
Speaker 3: way of saying it. I want to be me and

768
00:36:44,733 --> 00:36:47,173
Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like everybody else. The differences

769
00:36:47,213 --> 00:36:49,053
Speaker 3: in us are what make us human. And if I

770
00:36:49,053 --> 00:36:50,773
Speaker 3: want to be grammatically incorrect, my.

771
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Speaker 2: Bloody will be AI is just crap good on your text.

772
00:36:54,373 --> 00:36:58,413
Speaker 3: There's trish fighting back. Perfection degates character and interest. Example,

773
00:36:58,493 --> 00:37:02,253
Speaker 3: those women who imitate the conditions look now very plain

774
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:05,333
Speaker 3: and interesting and complete lack of character in their facial features.

775
00:37:05,693 --> 00:37:06,813
Speaker 2: See, that's my theory.

776
00:37:07,453 --> 00:37:12,573
Speaker 3: If you everything can be perfect, then we crave scarcity.

777
00:37:12,693 --> 00:37:12,813
Speaker 11: Right.

778
00:37:12,933 --> 00:37:19,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, So once everything's perfect, then will we crave human imperfections?

779
00:37:19,173 --> 00:37:19,773
Speaker 2: I hope so.

780
00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:20,133
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's ingrained in our psyche, that we're all

782
00:37:23,053 --> 00:37:27,293
Speaker 2: flawed people and we recognize flaws and imperfections and ways

783
00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:29,813
Speaker 2: of telling stories and others, and that to me is

784
00:37:29,813 --> 00:37:32,652
Speaker 2: important And I don't think AI for a long time.

785
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:35,333
Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll ever be able to do that. But people

786
00:37:35,333 --> 00:37:36,133
Speaker 2: will disagree with me.

787
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it is interesting the Yeah, there is a

788
00:37:42,013 --> 00:37:44,333
Speaker 3: possibility that we will crave humanity I mean if you

789
00:37:44,373 --> 00:37:48,053
Speaker 3: go back to Chaucer and the Cannery Tales, yes, every

790
00:37:48,053 --> 00:37:51,973
Speaker 3: words were spelled incorrect, like there was thirty five different spellings.

791
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Speaker 2: Of different words. Yeah, yeah, very true.

792
00:37:53,333 --> 00:37:55,573
Speaker 3: I mean you go back before the printing press and

793
00:37:55,613 --> 00:37:57,252
Speaker 3: no one even thought that you had to spell things

794
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Speaker 3: the same each time.

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Speaker 2: You just had to go. Yeah. We're going to carry

796
00:38:00,533 --> 00:38:03,453
Speaker 2: this on because after two o'clock we are going to

797
00:38:03,453 --> 00:38:05,652
Speaker 2: have a chat with Michelle Hurley. She is the spokesperson

798
00:38:05,693 --> 00:38:09,653
Speaker 2: for Publishers Association of News Them will get her thoughts

799
00:38:09,653 --> 00:38:13,173
Speaker 2: about AI use when it comes to writing and in

800
00:38:13,253 --> 00:38:15,973
Speaker 2: novels as well, but also taking more of your tacks.

801
00:38:15,973 --> 00:38:19,813
Speaker 2: On nine to nine to two again, we're playing Metallica

802
00:38:19,893 --> 00:38:23,013
Speaker 2: all after noon because a big show tonight. Maddie's heading

803
00:38:23,053 --> 00:38:26,533
Speaker 2: along and I think this one is the beautiful nothing

804
00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:27,493
Speaker 2: else matters.

805
00:38:29,493 --> 00:38:31,333
Speaker 15: June something.

806
00:38:31,413 --> 00:38:31,813
Speaker 16: I like her.

807
00:38:32,213 --> 00:38:33,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

808
00:39:00,453 --> 00:39:02,213
Speaker 5: Talking with you all afternoon.

809
00:39:02,493 --> 00:39:06,093
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons Used Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be a very good afternoon. Welcome back into the program.

811
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Speaker 2: It is seven past two. So as we've been discussing,

812
00:39:13,613 --> 00:39:16,293
Speaker 2: two respected New Zealand authors have been ruled out of

813
00:39:16,293 --> 00:39:19,533
Speaker 2: the country's top prize, that is the Open Book Awards,

814
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Speaker 2: after it was confirmed that their book covers were created

815
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Speaker 2: using artificial intelligence. Michelle Hurley is spokesperson for the Publisher's

816
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Speaker 2: Association Association of New Zealand, and she joins us Now, Michelle,

817
00:39:30,213 --> 00:39:30,933
Speaker 2: very good afternoons.

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Speaker 17: You nice to be here.

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Speaker 3: So before we get onto the book cover situation that

820
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:39,453
Speaker 3: we're talking about, how big a problem is AI and

821
00:39:39,493 --> 00:39:41,933
Speaker 3: publishing as a whole in twenty twenty five.

822
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Speaker 9: Oh, that's a big question, Matt.

823
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Speaker 17: But it's hard to know, isn't it, Because what you

824
00:39:49,373 --> 00:39:52,853
Speaker 17: don't know you don't know. But generally we've noticed in

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00:39:52,893 --> 00:39:57,893
Speaker 17: terms of manuscripts, certainly some submissions we've seen have been

826
00:39:57,973 --> 00:40:03,413
Speaker 17: clearly AI generated. At this point it still feels easy

827
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Speaker 17: to identify. And yes, we're not in the business of

828
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Speaker 17: paying roties to artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 18: We reject those.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just talking about to my contract because full disclosure,

831
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Speaker 3: you were, you were my editor on my book. I

832
00:40:18,813 --> 00:40:20,772
Speaker 3: can't I can't remember. I didn't read my contract very well.

833
00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:23,133
Speaker 3: I probably should have run it through check GVT. But

834
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Speaker 3: it seems to have worked out all right for me

835
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Speaker 3: so far. But there was some there was some percentage

836
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Speaker 3: that it said in there, and I'm sure it's standard.

837
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Speaker 3: There was something about AI in the in the contract.

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Speaker 3: Is there a standard standard deal with authors around how

839
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Speaker 3: much AI content can be?

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Speaker 17: I think it might have been inspired to send or something. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: I mean it's sort of like AI is, as everyone knows,

842
00:40:46,453 --> 00:40:50,333
Speaker 17: can be used in lots of different ways. So I

843
00:40:50,373 --> 00:40:53,733
Speaker 17: guess if you're using it to, you know, to check something,

844
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Speaker 17: that's fine. That when you're using it to create, and

845
00:40:56,773 --> 00:40:58,333
Speaker 17: this is like, I guess the broader point that we

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00:40:58,453 --> 00:41:06,293
Speaker 17: would make generally is that creativity is what our publishing

847
00:41:06,453 --> 00:41:09,933
Speaker 17: is built on, and we believe in investing and authors

848
00:41:09,933 --> 00:41:14,053
Speaker 17: and illustrators and photographers and designers, and that to do

849
00:41:14,093 --> 00:41:17,172
Speaker 17: that you have to value their work and ensure that

850
00:41:17,493 --> 00:41:20,973
Speaker 17: their work's compensated. So if you don't do that, then

851
00:41:23,173 --> 00:41:25,813
Speaker 17: then you know you're not going to be able to

852
00:41:25,853 --> 00:41:29,053
Speaker 17: have an ecosystem where people get paid, where that work

853
00:41:29,133 --> 00:41:33,413
Speaker 17: is protected and respected. So that's that's where that's where

854
00:41:33,413 --> 00:41:34,333
Speaker 17: it's all coming from.

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00:41:34,453 --> 00:41:37,293
Speaker 2: Essentially, that is Yeah, that is important, Michelle. Is it

856
00:41:37,333 --> 00:41:40,493
Speaker 2: hard to pack up when AI has been used? Do

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00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:42,573
Speaker 2: you see it yourself if you're when you're reading these

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00:41:42,573 --> 00:41:45,973
Speaker 2: manuscripts or you've got software to be able to detect it.

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00:41:47,493 --> 00:41:50,533
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, we run all our manuscripts through a pagiarism

860
00:41:51,013 --> 00:41:54,613
Speaker 17: checker which now includes AI. So yes, we do check.

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00:41:54,893 --> 00:41:55,533
Speaker 15: We do check.

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00:41:58,093 --> 00:42:01,253
Speaker 17: Look, yes, sometimes it's really obvious. I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 19: We are for Hour.

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Speaker 17: We have an annual fiction price that we that we run,

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Speaker 17: and so we get a lot of the shouldn't submissions

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Speaker 17: And we had one submission that had a line and

867
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Speaker 17: it said he turned, he turned to the left, and

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Speaker 17: then in square brackets that said west or east. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 17: sometimes it's quite.

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Speaker 3: Easy, something only a robot would say.

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00:42:32,893 --> 00:42:33,493
Speaker 17: Absolutely.

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00:42:33,613 --> 00:42:36,733
Speaker 3: Now what's this this year around the Jan Medlicott Prize.

873
00:42:37,293 --> 00:42:40,373
Speaker 3: Should a non AI book be judged by its AI cover?

874
00:42:40,613 --> 00:42:42,533
Speaker 3: Or is this a case in this case not judge

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Speaker 3: at all because it has an AI cover because the

876
00:42:46,453 --> 00:42:50,293
Speaker 3: author has very little to do with the covering. You know,

877
00:42:50,293 --> 00:42:54,333
Speaker 3: if the whole book, if the writing is above board

878
00:42:54,333 --> 00:42:57,732
Speaker 3: and written by the author not AI, is it their

879
00:42:57,933 --> 00:43:01,013
Speaker 3: fault that the cover is AI? Aren't they two different disciplines?

880
00:43:02,373 --> 00:43:04,653
Speaker 17: Well, the criter, it depends what the criteria is, and

881
00:43:04,693 --> 00:43:07,252
Speaker 17: the criteria has always been very clear with the book

882
00:43:07,373 --> 00:43:11,613
Speaker 17: awards trust it's the overall book. It's not just the text.

883
00:43:12,173 --> 00:43:15,653
Speaker 17: So and while you know there is a heavy weighting

884
00:43:15,693 --> 00:43:19,652
Speaker 17: towards the writing, it is not. It's never just been

885
00:43:19,653 --> 00:43:23,733
Speaker 17: based on the writing. So for that reason, that's why AI,

886
00:43:23,973 --> 00:43:25,733
Speaker 17: anything AI generated is excluded.

887
00:43:26,373 --> 00:43:29,533
Speaker 3: What about proof reading a book because the I know

888
00:43:29,613 --> 00:43:32,773
Speaker 3: with my book that the proofreaders were absolute heroes because

889
00:43:32,893 --> 00:43:35,813
Speaker 3: there was a sentence without a horrible error.

890
00:43:35,693 --> 00:43:36,693
Speaker 2: In those Paul Buggers.

891
00:43:36,973 --> 00:43:40,652
Speaker 3: So are they in danger for their job with the

892
00:43:40,693 --> 00:43:44,413
Speaker 3: proof reading because you know that's not really that's not

893
00:43:44,413 --> 00:43:47,133
Speaker 3: the creative part of it. I mean, there's a cinematic

894
00:43:47,133 --> 00:43:48,613
Speaker 3: of creativy and trying to work out what I was

895
00:43:48,613 --> 00:43:49,293
Speaker 3: actually trying to say.

896
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:52,133
Speaker 17: But you know what I mean, sure, yeah, and I

897
00:43:52,173 --> 00:43:54,893
Speaker 17: can see that some people, you know, almost like it's

898
00:43:54,933 --> 00:43:56,453
Speaker 17: just like running it through a spell check, but it's

899
00:43:56,493 --> 00:43:59,573
Speaker 17: actually a lot more complex than that. So I think

900
00:43:59,573 --> 00:44:05,053
Speaker 17: what AI can't really replace is taste and judgment, and

901
00:44:05,613 --> 00:44:08,133
Speaker 17: that is a really big part of the proofreader's role.

902
00:44:08,573 --> 00:44:11,813
Speaker 17: Just the facts, they're also going hang on something here

903
00:44:11,813 --> 00:44:16,093
Speaker 17: feels off or that doesn't quite work. You know, technically

904
00:44:16,093 --> 00:44:18,652
Speaker 17: it might be true, but it doesn't work in that context.

905
00:44:18,813 --> 00:44:22,533
Speaker 17: So I would say at the moment proof readers. You know,

906
00:44:22,573 --> 00:44:25,093
Speaker 17: unless AI gets to that point where it can can

907
00:44:25,293 --> 00:44:27,333
Speaker 17: do all of that sort of stuff, and I don't

908
00:44:27,333 --> 00:44:30,013
Speaker 17: think it can at this stage in their space.

909
00:44:30,333 --> 00:44:32,493
Speaker 3: As a publisher. That's interesting that you said before. So

910
00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:34,293
Speaker 3: I don't really think about this. But as a publisher,

911
00:44:34,333 --> 00:44:37,133
Speaker 3: you see the whole thing. There's the criteria for this award,

912
00:44:37,173 --> 00:44:40,573
Speaker 3: but also as publishers, you see the whole thing as

913
00:44:40,573 --> 00:44:43,692
Speaker 3: a work of art, including the cover. So even though

914
00:44:43,733 --> 00:44:46,733
Speaker 3: without the criteria of this awards, you still as a

915
00:44:46,773 --> 00:44:49,133
Speaker 3: publisher wouldn't support AI covers.

916
00:44:50,173 --> 00:44:52,813
Speaker 17: Well, I think the issue you have is that, so

917
00:44:52,853 --> 00:44:55,453
Speaker 17: publishing a New Zealand is a really small industry. I

918
00:44:55,493 --> 00:44:58,373
Speaker 17: think we employ about five hundred people, give or take,

919
00:44:59,173 --> 00:45:06,493
Speaker 17: and many of those people are illustrators and designers, and

920
00:45:06,533 --> 00:45:09,733
Speaker 17: we need them to make our books compelling and to

921
00:45:09,773 --> 00:45:11,693
Speaker 17: sell our books so that people so that they're beautiful,

922
00:45:11,733 --> 00:45:13,053
Speaker 17: so that people want to pick them up, you know,

923
00:45:13,093 --> 00:45:15,973
Speaker 17: picking up a cover. You know, everybody does judge a

924
00:45:15,973 --> 00:45:19,053
Speaker 17: book by its cover, that old edge. So unless we

925
00:45:19,093 --> 00:45:23,533
Speaker 17: support everybody in that publishing ecosystem, then we are going

926
00:45:23,533 --> 00:45:26,173
Speaker 17: to shrink and we won't have those people. So we

927
00:45:26,253 --> 00:45:29,053
Speaker 17: need to support them, even if it's just you know,

928
00:45:29,173 --> 00:45:31,893
Speaker 17: even if the cover may seem tangentdental to a fiction

929
00:45:32,173 --> 00:45:35,652
Speaker 17: writing award, it's all part of the same ecosystem.

930
00:45:36,093 --> 00:45:37,613
Speaker 3: To remember that person that I was trying to get

931
00:45:37,653 --> 00:45:39,453
Speaker 3: you to do, I had a friend that I want

932
00:45:39,493 --> 00:45:43,333
Speaker 3: to do the cover from my book, and you spent

933
00:45:43,773 --> 00:45:46,133
Speaker 3: hundreds of hours trying to track them down to it.

934
00:45:46,853 --> 00:45:48,773
Speaker 3: He can probably leave the ecosystem there, guy.

935
00:45:50,853 --> 00:45:52,813
Speaker 17: Yeah, but then we spound someone else, didn't we And

936
00:45:52,853 --> 00:45:53,533
Speaker 17: we did pay.

937
00:45:53,373 --> 00:45:55,212
Speaker 2: Her and she was fantastic and it was a good cover,

938
00:45:55,413 --> 00:45:58,172
Speaker 2: very good cover. Yeah, she did beautiful work. Just last

939
00:45:58,213 --> 00:46:01,893
Speaker 2: question from me, Michelle's so clearly you're quite you know,

940
00:46:01,933 --> 00:46:04,973
Speaker 2: you've got expertise picking up AI writing is GBT and

941
00:46:05,013 --> 00:46:06,533
Speaker 2: the like? Is it just are they? Is it a

942
00:46:06,613 --> 00:46:09,333
Speaker 2: terrible writers in that you you can see when it's

943
00:46:09,373 --> 00:46:11,853
Speaker 2: soulless and you can see that it doesn't have that

944
00:46:12,013 --> 00:46:14,413
Speaker 2: human touch. Is that something you can pick up pretty readily?

945
00:46:18,013 --> 00:46:18,212
Speaker 20: Yeah?

946
00:46:18,293 --> 00:46:20,893
Speaker 17: I think how to know, isn't it? I think it

947
00:46:20,973 --> 00:46:23,053
Speaker 17: depends what you're what you're talking about. Are you talking

948
00:46:23,053 --> 00:46:26,173
Speaker 17: about a report? You know, you know, structure this report

949
00:46:26,893 --> 00:46:28,893
Speaker 17: that I have to send to my shareholders you know,

950
00:46:28,893 --> 00:46:31,692
Speaker 17: it's probably really effective at something like that, But when

951
00:46:31,693 --> 00:46:34,813
Speaker 17: you're trying to create something new, which is at the

952
00:46:34,853 --> 00:46:37,013
Speaker 17: heart of it, which is what book publishing is about,

953
00:46:37,173 --> 00:46:42,093
Speaker 17: it's creating something new and original, then I think that's

954
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:45,333
Speaker 17: that's the key difference and hopefully we can still spot that.

955
00:46:45,693 --> 00:46:48,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michelle, I might be out of a job too.

956
00:46:49,493 --> 00:46:51,652
Speaker 2: Michelle has been really great chatting with you. Thank you

957
00:46:51,733 --> 00:46:52,652
Speaker 2: very much for coming on.

958
00:46:53,453 --> 00:46:53,773
Speaker 17: Pleasure.

959
00:46:54,173 --> 00:46:56,933
Speaker 2: That is Michelle Hurley. She a spokesperson for the Publishers

960
00:46:57,013 --> 00:47:00,333
Speaker 2: Association of New Zealand and helps you out mate with

961
00:47:00,373 --> 00:47:02,333
Speaker 2: your book that has done very well.

962
00:47:02,333 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 3: I've got to say she is fantastic yeah's and a

963
00:47:04,813 --> 00:47:05,573
Speaker 3: fantastic editor.

964
00:47:05,653 --> 00:47:09,133
Speaker 2: Yeah right. It is a quarter past two coming up.

965
00:47:09,213 --> 00:47:11,213
Speaker 2: After the break, we're going to put the old AI

966
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:13,533
Speaker 2: chat to bed. That was a great discussion, but we've

967
00:47:13,533 --> 00:47:15,253
Speaker 2: had so many texts about this we need to get

968
00:47:15,253 --> 00:47:17,773
Speaker 2: into it. This is after around twelve hundred are New

969
00:47:17,853 --> 00:47:20,693
Speaker 2: Zealand cabin crew have voted to strike a mid pay dispute.

970
00:47:20,733 --> 00:47:24,813
Speaker 2: They say they're roughly sixty grand base salary no longer

971
00:47:24,853 --> 00:47:27,933
Speaker 2: affects the demands of the job or the rising costs.

972
00:47:28,333 --> 00:47:31,973
Speaker 3: Yes, so historically speaking, it's been seen as a very

973
00:47:32,173 --> 00:47:35,172
Speaker 3: very glamorous job. I mean literally a jet setting job.

974
00:47:35,533 --> 00:47:38,652
Speaker 3: But as bad as Michael Wood and the itte Union

975
00:47:38,693 --> 00:47:43,253
Speaker 3: are saying it is, we'd love to hear from air hostesses, hosts,

976
00:47:43,293 --> 00:47:44,453
Speaker 3: Stuart's and attendance.

977
00:47:44,613 --> 00:47:47,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on through, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

978
00:47:47,453 --> 00:47:49,212
Speaker 2: What is it really like? Is it a great job?

979
00:47:49,253 --> 00:47:50,773
Speaker 2: Do you love? At nine two ninety two is a

980
00:47:50,853 --> 00:47:52,333
Speaker 2: text number quarter past.

981
00:47:52,173 --> 00:47:57,213
Speaker 1: Two your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

982
00:47:57,293 --> 00:48:01,213
Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk said, be.

983
00:48:03,093 --> 00:48:05,493
Speaker 2: Very good, afternoon jive. It is eighteen past two. So

984
00:48:05,573 --> 00:48:08,692
Speaker 2: we've asked the question, what is it like to be crew,

985
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:11,093
Speaker 2: flight attendant? Air host? Is I eight one hundred and

986
00:48:11,093 --> 00:48:13,453
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. It's on the back of twelve hundred

987
00:48:13,733 --> 00:48:17,292
Speaker 2: workers potentially looking to strike, they say at the moment

988
00:48:17,333 --> 00:48:18,573
Speaker 2: the conditions are unfair.

989
00:48:19,853 --> 00:48:22,253
Speaker 3: Is it still the glamorous job that people like me

990
00:48:22,373 --> 00:48:24,453
Speaker 3: imagine it to be or is it as bad a

991
00:48:24,533 --> 00:48:26,692
Speaker 3: job as Michael Wood and the two Union said. As

992
00:48:26,693 --> 00:48:28,652
Speaker 3: this text, Alesa says it's a great job, but don't

993
00:48:28,653 --> 00:48:31,613
Speaker 3: be filled exams to stay current in the fighting fires,

994
00:48:31,973 --> 00:48:35,573
Speaker 3: evacuating an aircraft, dealing with unruler intoxicated passengers. Oh my god,

995
00:48:35,613 --> 00:48:38,293
Speaker 3: that must be the worst job at first add emergencies,

996
00:48:38,613 --> 00:48:40,613
Speaker 3: there's no calling one one one, The crew must deal

997
00:48:40,653 --> 00:48:43,453
Speaker 3: with it in the air. The extra allowances keep in mind,

998
00:48:43,493 --> 00:48:45,732
Speaker 3: flying to New York City, where a latte is twelve

999
00:48:45,773 --> 00:48:49,693
Speaker 3: dollars New Zealand doesn't make this any extra stream of revenue.

1000
00:48:49,933 --> 00:48:52,812
Speaker 3: It's only to cover costs incurred well away from home.

1001
00:48:53,133 --> 00:48:55,373
Speaker 3: It's a lot more than just tea and coffee and

1002
00:48:55,413 --> 00:48:58,773
Speaker 3: handing out lallies. Crew have great skills beyond customer services,

1003
00:48:58,813 --> 00:49:03,093
Speaker 3: diffusing of situations, situational awareness, medical training, and the ability

1004
00:49:03,173 --> 00:49:06,293
Speaker 3: to use all the emergency equipment on the aircraft. They

1005
00:49:06,333 --> 00:49:09,493
Speaker 3: deserve to be recognized for the responsibilities required and harsh

1006
00:49:09,773 --> 00:49:11,733
Speaker 3: shift work hours.

1007
00:49:12,013 --> 00:49:12,212
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1008
00:49:12,493 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 3: So from from the outside, I look at my friends

1009
00:49:15,173 --> 00:49:19,053
Speaker 3: that are flight attendants internationally, and there's a lot of

1010
00:49:19,053 --> 00:49:22,172
Speaker 3: Instagram photos from exotic locations, as you would, and there's

1011
00:49:22,213 --> 00:49:24,173
Speaker 3: a lot of time off in these other cities and

1012
00:49:24,293 --> 00:49:27,733
Speaker 3: put up in nice hotels and such. So from my

1013
00:49:27,973 --> 00:49:32,493
Speaker 3: from my outside perspective, it looks great. But yeah, I mean,

1014
00:49:32,533 --> 00:49:34,213
Speaker 3: you have to be there's no doubt their level of

1015
00:49:34,253 --> 00:49:36,213
Speaker 3: skill and a little level of tolerance.

1016
00:49:36,253 --> 00:49:39,013
Speaker 2: Oh, they have to deal with some stuff. And as

1017
00:49:39,013 --> 00:49:41,013
Speaker 2: their text to said, you can't go anywhere, you can't die.

1018
00:49:41,093 --> 00:49:43,093
Speaker 2: One one one oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1019
00:49:43,173 --> 00:49:44,573
Speaker 2: is that number? Kate?

1020
00:49:45,133 --> 00:49:48,133
Speaker 3: You've been a flight attendant for you spent ten years

1021
00:49:48,133 --> 00:49:48,893
Speaker 3: as a flight attendant?

1022
00:49:48,893 --> 00:49:49,253
Speaker 15: Is that right?

1023
00:49:50,293 --> 00:49:51,493
Speaker 21: Yeah, just a little bit over.

1024
00:49:52,213 --> 00:49:55,093
Speaker 3: And are you still a flight attendant or have you

1025
00:49:55,093 --> 00:49:55,933
Speaker 3: you hung up.

1026
00:49:55,773 --> 00:49:59,613
Speaker 21: Your No, not anymore. I hung up my range about

1027
00:50:00,093 --> 00:50:00,893
Speaker 21: five years ago.

1028
00:50:01,253 --> 00:50:02,933
Speaker 3: Oh yes, And why was that? What did you Why

1029
00:50:02,973 --> 00:50:04,013
Speaker 3: did you get out of the game, Kate?

1030
00:50:06,053 --> 00:50:07,293
Speaker 21: It was just done for me.

1031
00:50:07,653 --> 00:50:08,173
Speaker 4: I was.

1032
00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:12,173
Speaker 21: I just really needed some more time off and sometimes

1033
00:50:12,173 --> 00:50:13,613
Speaker 21: the flexibility couldn't help.

1034
00:50:14,853 --> 00:50:21,173
Speaker 3: Were you international? Yes, and so do when you're international,

1035
00:50:21,253 --> 00:50:25,093
Speaker 3: you have a variety of different locations that you go

1036
00:50:25,173 --> 00:50:27,253
Speaker 3: to destinations, don't you. You don't just do the same one

1037
00:50:27,253 --> 00:50:27,772
Speaker 3: over and again.

1038
00:50:27,813 --> 00:50:28,293
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

1039
00:50:29,333 --> 00:50:33,533
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's correct. So it's all over ale. We get

1040
00:50:33,533 --> 00:50:37,053
Speaker 21: a roster. So I was international and domestic, So I

1041
00:50:37,213 --> 00:50:44,853
Speaker 21: flew across the Australia island and the domestic fleet obviously operated. Yeah,

1042
00:50:45,053 --> 00:50:47,093
Speaker 21: if you were out every day was a little bit different.

1043
00:50:47,133 --> 00:50:49,692
Speaker 21: It could be just a christ return or it could

1044
00:50:49,733 --> 00:50:54,293
Speaker 21: be a full set today or after Rahra I'm back now.

1045
00:50:54,293 --> 00:50:56,813
Speaker 3: It sounds glamorous. That part of it, the going overseas

1046
00:50:57,093 --> 00:50:59,693
Speaker 3: and did you do the really long haul ones to

1047
00:51:00,293 --> 00:51:02,853
Speaker 3: to you know, the States and Europe and such.

1048
00:51:03,293 --> 00:51:06,533
Speaker 21: Okay, No, I didn't didn't really tickle my fancy and

1049
00:51:06,533 --> 00:51:11,533
Speaker 21: I paid well. I didn't really want to change my

1050
00:51:12,213 --> 00:51:13,813
Speaker 21: kind of money incomes flow.

1051
00:51:14,853 --> 00:51:17,333
Speaker 2: Do they look after you when it comes to because clearly,

1052
00:51:17,373 --> 00:51:20,573
Speaker 2: as you say, there's you know, the flexibility issues there

1053
00:51:20,573 --> 00:51:24,253
Speaker 2: and you're traveling outside of the country for quite you know,

1054
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:26,253
Speaker 2: a few days a week. Do they look after you

1055
00:51:26,253 --> 00:51:28,693
Speaker 2: in terms of hours worked? Will you get the rest?

1056
00:51:28,773 --> 00:51:30,853
Speaker 2: How long you stand a destination that sort of thing.

1057
00:51:31,653 --> 00:51:36,173
Speaker 21: Oh, one hundred percent. Yeah, there's huge contractual restrictions around it.

1058
00:51:36,213 --> 00:51:39,373
Speaker 21: Also how long you can work in a certain amount

1059
00:51:39,413 --> 00:51:42,893
Speaker 21: of time, how long and between shifts you need to have,

1060
00:51:43,093 --> 00:51:47,853
Speaker 21: how long kind of in base versus imports. And then

1061
00:51:48,533 --> 00:51:52,733
Speaker 21: there's restrictions onto what can happen within a distruct situation

1062
00:51:52,853 --> 00:51:53,333
Speaker 21: as well.

1063
00:51:54,133 --> 00:51:57,933
Speaker 3: Is part of that to do with radiation? Have I

1064
00:51:58,013 --> 00:52:00,493
Speaker 3: misunderstood something that you can only be in the sky so.

1065
00:52:00,493 --> 00:52:00,973
Speaker 2: Much of the time.

1066
00:52:02,093 --> 00:52:06,013
Speaker 21: I believe yes, but no, it's more I think I

1067
00:52:06,053 --> 00:52:09,533
Speaker 21: believe CIA requirements they'll be like and then a matter

1068
00:52:09,573 --> 00:52:11,533
Speaker 21: of what you can do, and then it's whatever contracts

1069
00:52:11,773 --> 00:52:15,333
Speaker 21: is negotiated beyond that. So however that kind of sets

1070
00:52:15,773 --> 00:52:16,813
Speaker 21: so you didn't.

1071
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:17,692
Speaker 2: Do the big long ones.

1072
00:52:17,733 --> 00:52:19,773
Speaker 3: But the people that I see in New York, they

1073
00:52:19,773 --> 00:52:22,413
Speaker 3: seem to have two three days off in New York

1074
00:52:22,413 --> 00:52:23,212
Speaker 3: before they fly back.

1075
00:52:23,333 --> 00:52:27,013
Speaker 21: That correct, Yeah, and that'll be a contractual requirement, so

1076
00:52:27,093 --> 00:52:29,493
Speaker 21: depending on what was negotiated during that period.

1077
00:52:30,053 --> 00:52:32,413
Speaker 3: So it's a union is saying that the average guaranteed

1078
00:52:32,493 --> 00:52:38,453
Speaker 3: base salary cited is sixty thousand dollars, which that they

1079
00:52:38,493 --> 00:52:40,613
Speaker 3: say is does not reflect the nature of the work.

1080
00:52:40,693 --> 00:52:44,853
Speaker 3: So that's the base salary. What other allowances are above that?

1081
00:52:44,893 --> 00:52:46,573
Speaker 3: And how long you're on sixty thousand dollars?

1082
00:52:46,653 --> 00:52:48,652
Speaker 2: Is that where you start? Is it easy to move

1083
00:52:48,733 --> 00:52:49,172
Speaker 2: up from there?

1084
00:52:50,173 --> 00:52:52,453
Speaker 21: Look, I guess being five years out of the game,

1085
00:52:53,053 --> 00:52:56,453
Speaker 21: things probably have changed. But I think the contracts come

1086
00:52:56,533 --> 00:53:00,173
Speaker 21: up for negotiation potentially these three years we may see

1087
00:53:00,493 --> 00:53:04,773
Speaker 21: in percentage increases across that. So from a base level

1088
00:53:04,973 --> 00:53:07,613
Speaker 21: up until like the year after to the year after

1089
00:53:07,733 --> 00:53:10,653
Speaker 21: kind of thing that may cap three years and above

1090
00:53:10,693 --> 00:53:12,973
Speaker 21: I can't quite remember the structure of the table, but

1091
00:53:13,773 --> 00:53:16,333
Speaker 21: once you're kind of at that cap, so I guess

1092
00:53:16,333 --> 00:53:20,413
Speaker 21: you might go up. But they also have todd allowances,

1093
00:53:20,453 --> 00:53:22,733
Speaker 21: so to our duty allowances, which you get on top

1094
00:53:22,773 --> 00:53:25,573
Speaker 21: of a certain amount every hour you're away from home,

1095
00:53:25,613 --> 00:53:28,453
Speaker 21: which can accumulate while you're overseas as well. So you

1096
00:53:28,493 --> 00:53:33,853
Speaker 21: pull into somewhere for four days, you're paid until your

1097
00:53:33,933 --> 00:53:35,173
Speaker 21: arm blocks back home.

1098
00:53:36,333 --> 00:53:39,053
Speaker 3: So if sixty thousand dollars and you know you said

1099
00:53:39,053 --> 00:53:40,373
Speaker 3: to have been out of there, you know what what

1100
00:53:40,413 --> 00:53:42,133
Speaker 3: sort of what sort of levels can you get up

1101
00:53:42,133 --> 00:53:43,613
Speaker 3: to in the in the.

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00:53:43,533 --> 00:53:53,013
Speaker 21: Profession, there's loads of I mean, you could definitely over

1103
00:53:53,053 --> 00:53:57,573
Speaker 21: one hundred ks who would get one hundred beyond? And

1104
00:53:57,853 --> 00:54:00,973
Speaker 21: would that be included allowances? So that's not your salary?

1105
00:54:01,373 --> 00:54:03,053
Speaker 2: Does it? Does it go up when you go to

1106
00:54:03,413 --> 00:54:05,333
Speaker 2: business or first class? Is that an a sort of

1107
00:54:05,413 --> 00:54:07,133
Speaker 2: higher salary bracket?

1108
00:54:07,613 --> 00:54:10,613
Speaker 21: Can't quite remember because because I wasn't operating on that fleet,

1109
00:54:10,653 --> 00:54:13,093
Speaker 21: so I'm not too sure.

1110
00:54:13,333 --> 00:54:16,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have to deal with many unruly things

1111
00:54:16,293 --> 00:54:17,973
Speaker 2: on your flights during your time?

1112
00:54:18,333 --> 00:54:22,013
Speaker 21: I had a few. Yeah, I was pretty lucky, but

1113
00:54:22,133 --> 00:54:25,533
Speaker 21: I definitely had a few. Yeah, And friends have had

1114
00:54:25,573 --> 00:54:29,453
Speaker 21: some ones. Definitely. It's a good topic of conversation.

1115
00:54:29,813 --> 00:54:31,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it is. You would have some stories.

1116
00:54:31,773 --> 00:54:34,253
Speaker 2: So good lifestyle obviously, you know, the having to be

1117
00:54:34,373 --> 00:54:36,533
Speaker 2: away from home so much got you in the end.

1118
00:54:37,093 --> 00:54:40,973
Speaker 2: But it was a good lifestyle, great.

1119
00:54:40,853 --> 00:54:45,373
Speaker 21: Like meet the best people. Course, it's just a really cool,

1120
00:54:46,213 --> 00:54:49,252
Speaker 21: cool business. And you really missed the disguise. I think

1121
00:54:49,293 --> 00:54:51,933
Speaker 21: if if I could have a kind of different schedule,

1122
00:54:51,933 --> 00:54:53,973
Speaker 21: it would be something that I wouldn't have left. But

1123
00:54:54,213 --> 00:54:57,173
Speaker 21: the other people are amazing that.

1124
00:54:57,493 --> 00:54:59,053
Speaker 2: Some of the passengers are obviously punishing.

1125
00:54:59,893 --> 00:55:01,573
Speaker 21: Yeah, do you know what? The majority are good?

1126
00:55:02,893 --> 00:55:04,812
Speaker 2: Can you spot them when they get in on the plane?

1127
00:55:04,813 --> 00:55:05,893
Speaker 2: The ones who are going to be a little bit

1128
00:55:05,893 --> 00:55:08,453
Speaker 2: of trouble obviously if they've had a skilled Now.

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00:55:08,533 --> 00:55:11,893
Speaker 21: I had a really good one once where we were

1130
00:55:13,133 --> 00:55:15,652
Speaker 21: waiting and we saw someone kind of misbehaving in the

1131
00:55:15,693 --> 00:55:18,453
Speaker 21: lounge and loopped on the plane and thinking, oh god,

1132
00:55:18,533 --> 00:55:22,333
Speaker 21: you know our poor crew and yeah, and then I

1133
00:55:22,453 --> 00:55:24,533
Speaker 21: kind of look up and I'm like, oh no, it's ours.

1134
00:55:26,213 --> 00:55:26,933
Speaker 5: Oh God.

1135
00:55:27,973 --> 00:55:30,732
Speaker 21: So that was a bit of fun having to kind

1136
00:55:30,733 --> 00:55:33,732
Speaker 21: of turn that situation around and get them off board.

1137
00:55:33,853 --> 00:55:35,173
Speaker 21: But it was the right thing to do.

1138
00:55:35,453 --> 00:55:39,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thanks so much for your call, Kate. This

1139
00:55:39,133 --> 00:55:45,013
Speaker 3: Texas is just one second. Hey, guys, as far as

1140
00:55:45,013 --> 00:55:47,212
Speaker 3: flight attendants go, I can appreciate it difficult their job

1141
00:55:47,253 --> 00:55:50,093
Speaker 3: would be. It's about time, buddy, New Zealand pull their

1142
00:55:50,093 --> 00:55:52,493
Speaker 3: fingers out and their backs are out of their backsides

1143
00:55:52,533 --> 00:55:55,212
Speaker 3: and pay more money the amount that they charge you

1144
00:55:55,333 --> 00:55:57,493
Speaker 3: to fly anywhere in the country, let alone of seas.

1145
00:55:57,533 --> 00:56:00,013
Speaker 3: I cannot understand why they're not comprecending their staff better.

1146
00:56:00,093 --> 00:56:03,053
Speaker 2: Thanks Simon, keep those teachs coming through on nine two

1147
00:56:03,133 --> 00:56:05,133
Speaker 2: nine two. And if you've worked in the industry, love

1148
00:56:05,173 --> 00:56:07,053
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on what the lifestyle was like.

1149
00:56:07,373 --> 00:56:09,333
Speaker 2: Do you agree with a lot of what Kate was saying?

1150
00:56:09,333 --> 00:56:11,853
Speaker 2: And is it, you know, for lack of a better word,

1151
00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:14,173
Speaker 2: a young person's game to do while you're young and

1152
00:56:14,213 --> 00:56:15,773
Speaker 2: you don't need to be at home so often. Oh

1153
00:56:15,773 --> 00:56:17,652
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to

1154
00:56:17,653 --> 00:56:25,413
Speaker 2: call twenty six past two.

1155
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:26,373
Speaker 1: On Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons? Call Oh, eight

1156
00:56:26,453 --> 00:56:28,293
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk.

1157
00:56:28,373 --> 00:56:30,733
Speaker 2: Z'd be for a good afternoons. You're twenty nine past

1158
00:56:30,773 --> 00:56:33,652
Speaker 2: two and we are talking about flight attendants. What does

1159
00:56:33,693 --> 00:56:36,053
Speaker 2: it actually like being a flight attendant. They are considering

1160
00:56:36,093 --> 00:56:38,692
Speaker 2: going on strike, twelve hundred of them because they say

1161
00:56:38,733 --> 00:56:41,413
Speaker 2: that conditions are not fair currently. But what is the

1162
00:56:41,453 --> 00:56:42,013
Speaker 2: lifestyle like.

1163
00:56:42,093 --> 00:56:44,533
Speaker 3: It's interesting beginning a bunch of text through saying we're

1164
00:56:44,533 --> 00:56:46,733
Speaker 3: not allowed to talk to media. We're not allowed to

1165
00:56:46,733 --> 00:56:47,813
Speaker 3: talk to media about the condition.

1166
00:56:48,013 --> 00:56:50,973
Speaker 2: I hate when organizations do that. Oh, you know in

1167
00:56:50,973 --> 00:56:52,773
Speaker 2: New Zealand it's done a lot of good things. But

1168
00:56:52,933 --> 00:56:55,573
Speaker 2: come on, you can't stop your workers from talking to

1169
00:56:55,613 --> 00:56:56,213
Speaker 2: the media.

1170
00:56:56,253 --> 00:57:00,333
Speaker 3: Well you should, because Michael wood is talking smack about you. Yeah,

1171
00:57:00,373 --> 00:57:03,973
Speaker 3: he's saying that you're a terrible employee and that people

1172
00:57:04,013 --> 00:57:05,093
Speaker 3: should walk off their jobs.

1173
00:57:05,813 --> 00:57:10,053
Speaker 2: So, you know, defend yourself. So of course, shoot his

1174
00:57:10,093 --> 00:57:11,453
Speaker 2: mouth off any which way.

1175
00:57:11,573 --> 00:57:14,933
Speaker 3: Michael wad is just throwing stones at you. He's abusing

1176
00:57:14,933 --> 00:57:17,253
Speaker 3: the hell out of you. He's saying it's a terrible job.

1177
00:57:17,253 --> 00:57:20,213
Speaker 2: You're going to take that to New Zealands eighty ten

1178
00:57:20,213 --> 00:57:21,293
Speaker 2: and eighty if you're listening.

1179
00:57:21,373 --> 00:57:23,693
Speaker 3: Guy sixty two k is the base salary? To make

1180
00:57:23,733 --> 00:57:26,413
Speaker 3: a considered decision, we need to know what is the highest,

1181
00:57:26,413 --> 00:57:28,253
Speaker 3: what is the lowest, and what is the average. Obviously

1182
00:57:28,293 --> 00:57:30,893
Speaker 3: everyone earns over the base salary. Yeah, that's what we

1183
00:57:30,933 --> 00:57:32,853
Speaker 3: need to know. So he's saying the base salary, which

1184
00:57:32,893 --> 00:57:36,493
Speaker 3: is misleading from from the to union because you know,

1185
00:57:36,693 --> 00:57:38,293
Speaker 3: for people as a public to make a decision on

1186
00:57:38,333 --> 00:57:41,253
Speaker 3: whether it's a good job or not, then we need

1187
00:57:41,293 --> 00:57:43,853
Speaker 3: to know what what they actually get, what the benefits are,

1188
00:57:44,653 --> 00:57:47,333
Speaker 3: what what the perks are, what the whole thing is.

1189
00:57:47,973 --> 00:57:50,773
Speaker 3: So you know, but base salary is a very confusing number.

1190
00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:52,933
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like a salesperson to get a base salary

1191
00:57:52,973 --> 00:57:53,853
Speaker 2: of thirty k, but you're.

1192
00:57:53,693 --> 00:57:57,213
Speaker 3: Not because this person here is you discussed me. Could

1193
00:57:57,293 --> 00:57:59,813
Speaker 3: you live on nine hundred and twenty three dollars per week?

1194
00:58:00,013 --> 00:58:02,173
Speaker 3: That's yeah, but that's the base, But that's the base.

1195
00:58:02,293 --> 00:58:04,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly if you can, If you can, you know what,

1196
00:58:04,653 --> 00:58:06,253
Speaker 2: I could live on nine hundred and twenty three dollars

1197
00:58:06,253 --> 00:58:06,533
Speaker 2: a week.

1198
00:58:06,573 --> 00:58:09,373
Speaker 3: I think anyone could live on it. I mean, thrivings

1199
00:58:09,373 --> 00:58:11,133
Speaker 3: are different, but you can definitely get by on nine

1200
00:58:11,173 --> 00:58:12,173
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty three dollars.

1201
00:58:12,013 --> 00:58:14,613
Speaker 2: No for else, Yeah, absolutely, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1202
00:58:14,653 --> 00:58:17,733
Speaker 2: If you can provide some insight into the extras that

1203
00:58:17,773 --> 00:58:20,373
Speaker 2: are provided above that sixty k base salary, love to

1204
00:58:20,413 --> 00:58:20,933
Speaker 2: hear from you.

1205
00:58:21,213 --> 00:58:23,613
Speaker 3: Base salary long haul is fifty eight eight hundred. Most

1206
00:58:23,653 --> 00:58:26,733
Speaker 3: long haul flights only have one night overseas asure is

1207
00:58:26,773 --> 00:58:29,693
Speaker 3: barely twenty four hours. JFK has only two nights a

1208
00:58:29,813 --> 00:58:32,773
Speaker 3: one clear day off not many days. Old school crew

1209
00:58:32,813 --> 00:58:35,093
Speaker 3: are on over one hundred K, but not the majority

1210
00:58:35,093 --> 00:58:39,173
Speaker 3: of new crew that started post COVID. Yeah, but there

1211
00:58:39,253 --> 00:58:42,213
Speaker 3: is also you've got to mention those sweet friends and

1212
00:58:42,333 --> 00:58:45,933
Speaker 3: well freep family and you know holiday benefits.

1213
00:58:45,493 --> 00:58:47,973
Speaker 2: The buddy flights. Yeah, your buddy flights are amazing. What

1214
00:58:48,013 --> 00:58:50,093
Speaker 2: a perk I eighte hundred eighty ten eighty. And if

1215
00:58:50,133 --> 00:58:52,373
Speaker 2: you've got a family member who's a flight attendant as well,

1216
00:58:52,453 --> 00:58:56,133
Speaker 2: love to hear from you. Perhaps it's your partner, your husband,

1217
00:58:56,213 --> 00:58:58,253
Speaker 2: or your wife or a family member. How hard is

1218
00:58:58,253 --> 00:59:00,453
Speaker 2: it to have them away so much? But what is

1219
00:59:00,493 --> 00:59:03,333
Speaker 2: the lifestyle like? And if you're a husband or wife

1220
00:59:03,333 --> 00:59:05,453
Speaker 2: of someone who does that, then you get cheap flights

1221
00:59:05,453 --> 00:59:05,933
Speaker 2: to anywhere?

1222
00:59:05,973 --> 00:59:08,493
Speaker 3: Right, guys, have you ever thought that the strike thing

1223
00:59:08,613 --> 00:59:11,333
Speaker 3: is just as much to do with the old kicked

1224
00:59:11,333 --> 00:59:14,133
Speaker 3: out labour MP leading these unions.

1225
00:59:14,453 --> 00:59:16,773
Speaker 2: If we just go up, so will ticket prices? Yps

1226
00:59:16,853 --> 00:59:19,493
Speaker 2: use Brent, Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot in that, right,

1227
00:59:19,533 --> 00:59:22,053
Speaker 2: give us a bar zo one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1228
00:59:22,213 --> 00:59:24,133
Speaker 3: Well, okay, okay, we've got we've got we've got a

1229
00:59:24,133 --> 00:59:28,413
Speaker 3: current current cabin crew person that's sending through anonymously. So

1230
00:59:28,533 --> 00:59:31,053
Speaker 3: we'll and we've got a few of those coming through now.

1231
00:59:30,933 --> 00:59:33,213
Speaker 2: Yep, this is good headlines with railing coming up. Then

1232
00:59:33,213 --> 00:59:34,213
Speaker 2: we'll get back into it.

1233
00:59:36,693 --> 00:59:40,573
Speaker 13: You talk say headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's no

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00:59:40,733 --> 00:59:42,013
Speaker 13: trouble with a blue bubble.

1235
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Speaker 16: A reports revealed New Zealand's gas supply has halved since

1236
00:59:46,013 --> 00:59:49,693
Speaker 16: twenty fifteen and could have again in the next five years.

1237
00:59:50,133 --> 00:59:54,693
Speaker 16: Recommends building up hydro geothermal, wind and solar power resources.

1238
00:59:54,973 --> 00:59:57,573
Speaker 16: It also says we need to focus on slowing the

1239
00:59:57,613 --> 01:00:01,413
Speaker 16: decline as it is. Drinking rates across the country are

1240
01:00:01,413 --> 01:00:04,973
Speaker 16: down to one in six adults, but vapings increased to

1241
01:00:05,013 --> 01:00:09,613
Speaker 16: almost twelve percent. A structure fire broken art at Auckland,

1242
01:00:09,653 --> 01:00:13,573
Speaker 16: Saint Kentigan College and Pakudanga. Students have been evacuated to

1243
01:00:13,613 --> 01:00:17,773
Speaker 16: the school field. A masterton Man's been arrested for attempting

1244
01:00:17,773 --> 01:00:20,773
Speaker 16: to smuggle millions of dollars worth of meth in ten

1245
01:00:20,853 --> 01:00:24,253
Speaker 16: packages sent through the mail. Some drugs were concealed in

1246
01:00:24,293 --> 01:00:28,493
Speaker 16: a painting and skating knee pads. A US judge as

1247
01:00:28,573 --> 01:00:32,533
Speaker 16: ruled Facebook's parent company Meta doesn't have a social media

1248
01:00:32,613 --> 01:00:38,373
Speaker 16: monopoly despite buying WhatsApp and Instagram. Fonterra faces toughest test

1249
01:00:38,453 --> 01:00:41,933
Speaker 16: cutting emissions on farms. Read more about it at nset

1250
01:00:41,973 --> 01:00:44,973
Speaker 16: Herald Premium Macknata, matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raillians. We are talking about flight attendants.

1252
01:00:48,333 --> 01:00:51,293
Speaker 2: They are looking down the barrel of strike action. But

1253
01:00:51,373 --> 01:00:52,653
Speaker 2: can you hear from you if you've ever been a

1254
01:00:52,653 --> 01:00:54,733
Speaker 2: flight attendant, you have a flight attendant in the family,

1255
01:00:54,773 --> 01:00:56,373
Speaker 2: What is the job actually like?

1256
01:00:56,493 --> 01:00:59,013
Speaker 3: Well, this Tessa has a flight attendant in the family.

1257
01:00:59,173 --> 01:01:01,493
Speaker 3: My daughter flies for a great airline. She gets sixty

1258
01:01:01,533 --> 01:01:05,933
Speaker 3: five K basic pay, fly long hauler all over the world.

1259
01:01:05,973 --> 01:01:08,453
Speaker 3: She spends up for five days on her journey, four

1260
01:01:08,493 --> 01:01:11,333
Speaker 3: hundred US per day. When you arrive at your generation

1261
01:01:11,733 --> 01:01:14,533
Speaker 3: destination and a world class hotel. Been everywhere from China

1262
01:01:14,533 --> 01:01:17,493
Speaker 3: to South America, South Africa. Also it's cheap family to

1263
01:01:17,533 --> 01:01:21,653
Speaker 3: fly Auckland to Spore.

1264
01:01:22,973 --> 01:01:28,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, what that means Spain, Singapore, Spoor, explore the music festival.

1265
01:01:29,013 --> 01:01:30,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can text back and say how a

1266
01:01:30,613 --> 01:01:33,653
Speaker 3: coast one hundred and fifty dollars to fly Auckland to spare.

1267
01:01:33,613 --> 01:01:35,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, wherever it is sounds like a good deal. But

1268
01:01:35,533 --> 01:01:37,013
Speaker 2: I don't know how far away Spore is.

1269
01:01:37,093 --> 01:01:40,213
Speaker 3: But there go sixty five basic and four hundred dollars

1270
01:01:40,253 --> 01:01:42,693
Speaker 3: a day for four hundred US a day when they arrive.

1271
01:01:42,533 --> 01:01:44,133
Speaker 2: At the destination. That is very good.

1272
01:01:44,173 --> 01:01:47,213
Speaker 3: It sounds better than what Michael Woods is saying. Simon

1273
01:01:47,253 --> 01:01:47,893
Speaker 3: your thoughts on this.

1274
01:01:49,173 --> 01:01:50,533
Speaker 22: Yeah, hey, boys, how are you doing?

1275
01:01:51,453 --> 01:01:53,573
Speaker 2: Very good? Thank you for calling Samon good.

1276
01:01:54,213 --> 01:01:54,413
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1277
01:01:54,413 --> 01:01:56,373
Speaker 22: Look, I sent her a text a bit earlier on

1278
01:01:56,533 --> 01:01:58,853
Speaker 22: just about flight attendance. And you know, at the end

1279
01:01:58,853 --> 01:02:01,333
Speaker 22: of the day, one of the biggest issues that I

1280
01:02:01,373 --> 01:02:05,133
Speaker 22: have with anything that anybody does in this country, particularly

1281
01:02:05,333 --> 01:02:08,733
Speaker 22: is the lack of money that they pay people. You know,

1282
01:02:09,093 --> 01:02:11,333
Speaker 22: we look at flight attendants. It's not like getting on

1283
01:02:11,373 --> 01:02:13,293
Speaker 22: a bus where you're relying on a bus driver to

1284
01:02:13,333 --> 01:02:16,253
Speaker 22: take you from A to B. These people have skills

1285
01:02:16,253 --> 01:02:19,613
Speaker 22: that we require you get off the ground. You cannot

1286
01:02:19,653 --> 01:02:22,773
Speaker 22: get off that plane you're on it. And I think

1287
01:02:22,853 --> 01:02:27,933
Speaker 22: those people in their roles are crucial. I've flown quite

1288
01:02:27,933 --> 01:02:29,733
Speaker 22: a few times and my wife is a bit of

1289
01:02:29,773 --> 01:02:33,493
Speaker 22: a panic fly, and I can tell you they in

1290
01:02:33,533 --> 01:02:36,533
Speaker 22: their roles and what they do is amazing. They calm

1291
01:02:36,613 --> 01:02:40,453
Speaker 22: her down, they put her at ease. They've always got

1292
01:02:40,493 --> 01:02:44,333
Speaker 22: a light attitude, so they're never for somebody like her

1293
01:02:44,373 --> 01:02:47,573
Speaker 22: who tends to get a bit worried about leaving the ground.

1294
01:02:47,573 --> 01:02:50,613
Speaker 22: As such, she needs somebody that can reassure it. And

1295
01:02:50,653 --> 01:02:54,093
Speaker 22: these people do flying all the time, so they understand it.

1296
01:02:54,133 --> 01:02:57,573
Speaker 22: And it's a I guess it's one of those things

1297
01:02:57,613 --> 01:03:00,373
Speaker 22: where you have to get your head around the understanding

1298
01:03:00,373 --> 01:03:02,853
Speaker 22: that all of these people want to get home. They've

1299
01:03:02,893 --> 01:03:04,893
Speaker 22: got a job to do and they're there to make

1300
01:03:04,973 --> 01:03:11,093
Speaker 22: you safe, keep you comfortable and your fly. I've been

1301
01:03:11,133 --> 01:03:15,973
Speaker 22: through some pretty heary, scary landings where we've had to

1302
01:03:16,053 --> 01:03:19,933
Speaker 22: come at quite a fast rate, and I just can't

1303
01:03:20,053 --> 01:03:24,053
Speaker 22: I can't say enough for how these guys operate. And

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01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:27,173
Speaker 22: when you think about the money and they're complaining about

1305
01:03:27,453 --> 01:03:29,573
Speaker 22: I guess the hours and everything else that they're doing.

1306
01:03:29,813 --> 01:03:32,333
Speaker 22: I can't see it being a normal forty hour week.

1307
01:03:33,693 --> 01:03:36,653
Speaker 22: So I'm thinking that they've probably got a good argument

1308
01:03:37,053 --> 01:03:40,213
Speaker 22: in New Zealand and the prices that they're charging. And

1309
01:03:40,253 --> 01:03:43,253
Speaker 22: we're currently looking at heading overseas at the moment, and

1310
01:03:43,333 --> 01:03:45,613
Speaker 22: I just cannot believe that the sort of money that

1311
01:03:45,653 --> 01:03:47,973
Speaker 22: we're paying. And the argument is it costs a lot

1312
01:03:48,013 --> 01:03:51,653
Speaker 22: to fly a plane, costs a lot to fuel it. Well,

1313
01:03:51,653 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 22: it must cost a lot to have staff who are

1314
01:03:53,493 --> 01:03:56,773
Speaker 22: confident that can take care of emergency situations, etc.

1315
01:03:57,133 --> 01:03:57,733
Speaker 5: At the time.

1316
01:03:58,133 --> 01:04:00,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's no doubt that there's skills, the phenomenal

1317
01:04:00,653 --> 01:04:03,173
Speaker 3: skills across the board. There's so many things that can

1318
01:04:03,213 --> 01:04:05,573
Speaker 3: go wrong and there's so many people that can go

1319
01:04:05,573 --> 01:04:07,173
Speaker 3: wrong on a plane. Do you think part of the

1320
01:04:07,173 --> 01:04:10,493
Speaker 3: problem for it, for the profession is that because of

1321
01:04:10,533 --> 01:04:14,013
Speaker 3: its glamorous image and people want to travel, especially young

1322
01:04:14,053 --> 01:04:15,493
Speaker 3: people might want to spend a bunch of time in

1323
01:04:15,533 --> 01:04:18,453
Speaker 3: New York or you know, before you have families and

1324
01:04:18,853 --> 01:04:21,013
Speaker 3: when it become really complicated. But you think part of

1325
01:04:21,013 --> 01:04:22,573
Speaker 3: the problem is so many people want to do it

1326
01:04:22,613 --> 01:04:26,093
Speaker 3: because it's the places are hard to get, so so

1327
01:04:26,173 --> 01:04:28,173
Speaker 3: many probably want to do it for the perks that

1328
01:04:28,253 --> 01:04:32,493
Speaker 3: the pressure you know, to pay more is not on

1329
01:04:32,573 --> 01:04:33,853
Speaker 3: the companies the airlines.

1330
01:04:34,853 --> 01:04:37,693
Speaker 22: Yeah, well there could be that, but I mean it's

1331
01:04:37,693 --> 01:04:39,973
Speaker 22: a pretty dumb argument if you look at it from

1332
01:04:39,973 --> 01:04:41,653
Speaker 22: that point of view, because I think, you know, just

1333
01:04:41,733 --> 01:04:44,173
Speaker 22: the skill base. I mean, you know, you guys raised

1334
01:04:44,173 --> 01:04:46,813
Speaker 22: before about if there's a medical event on a plane

1335
01:04:46,893 --> 01:04:49,253
Speaker 22: or something like that. I mean, as a as a

1336
01:04:49,293 --> 01:04:51,613
Speaker 22: member of the public, you know, it would freak me

1337
01:04:51,653 --> 01:04:53,813
Speaker 22: out walking down the street and having to help somebody

1338
01:04:53,813 --> 01:04:56,733
Speaker 22: that they needed help, you know, and there's been discussions

1339
01:04:56,773 --> 01:04:59,773
Speaker 22: on the radio about that before. So these people are literally.

1340
01:04:59,893 --> 01:05:00,733
Speaker 5: They had no help.

1341
01:05:00,773 --> 01:05:03,453
Speaker 22: There's no calling ambulance, there's no you know, there's no

1342
01:05:03,533 --> 01:05:05,693
Speaker 22: way that they've got anyone but themselves to rely on.

1343
01:05:05,733 --> 01:05:08,293
Speaker 22: And that that's when a team really needs to kick in.

1344
01:05:08,813 --> 01:05:10,573
Speaker 22: You know, you might have two hundred plus people on

1345
01:05:10,613 --> 01:05:13,093
Speaker 22: a plane. You've got to keep them calm. You've got

1346
01:05:13,133 --> 01:05:14,533
Speaker 22: to deal with the situation that's in.

1347
01:05:14,493 --> 01:05:14,853
Speaker 11: Front of you.

1348
01:05:15,533 --> 01:05:18,693
Speaker 22: I couldn't imagine, you know, the sort of we've all

1349
01:05:18,693 --> 01:05:20,693
Speaker 22: watched the movies, but I couldn't imagine the sort of

1350
01:05:21,133 --> 01:05:23,173
Speaker 22: stress that would be put on you if the situation

1351
01:05:23,373 --> 01:05:26,013
Speaker 22: did develop and you're thirty thousand feet in the year

1352
01:05:26,093 --> 01:05:30,373
Speaker 22: and halfway across an ocean somewhere. I mean, when little

1353
01:05:30,413 --> 01:05:31,373
Speaker 22: value do you put on that?

1354
01:05:31,573 --> 01:05:34,853
Speaker 3: When when there's bad turbulence or there's something happening with

1355
01:05:34,893 --> 01:05:38,173
Speaker 3: a plane, do you look into the flight assistant's eyes

1356
01:05:38,373 --> 01:05:41,773
Speaker 3: and see if they I'm always checking out if they're behaving.

1357
01:05:41,493 --> 01:05:44,853
Speaker 2: Normally or not. They look relaxed. It's all good. Yes, yeah,

1358
01:05:44,933 --> 01:05:45,573
Speaker 2: it's relaxed.

1359
01:05:45,573 --> 01:05:48,293
Speaker 22: And my seatbelts on and I'm just going, okay, throwing

1360
01:05:48,333 --> 01:05:49,053
Speaker 22: another movie on.

1361
01:05:49,293 --> 01:05:53,413
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, they've got an under control to look at.

1362
01:05:53,573 --> 01:05:57,053
Speaker 3: They've got to deal with one hundreds hundred or so

1363
01:05:57,373 --> 01:05:59,453
Speaker 3: terrified eyes looking at them for reassurance.

1364
01:05:59,653 --> 01:06:04,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, up, it's all good, exactly, just quickly, Simon.

1365
01:06:04,613 --> 01:06:06,373
Speaker 2: I mean, look, all I can think about here is

1366
01:06:06,493 --> 01:06:09,333
Speaker 2: you make some very very good arguments, but it all

1367
01:06:09,373 --> 01:06:11,573
Speaker 2: comes back to what we pay to travel, right, So

1368
01:06:11,733 --> 01:06:14,773
Speaker 2: does it come back to us as consumers that if

1369
01:06:14,893 --> 01:06:16,573
Speaker 2: it is as you say, it's quite a skilled job

1370
01:06:16,573 --> 01:06:18,013
Speaker 2: for many and if they want to see it as

1371
01:06:18,053 --> 01:06:20,773
Speaker 2: a career long term, then maybe we have to accept

1372
01:06:20,933 --> 01:06:23,253
Speaker 2: we have to pay more to travel on a plane.

1373
01:06:24,013 --> 01:06:26,853
Speaker 22: Look, I totally agree with that, but when you look

1374
01:06:26,893 --> 01:06:28,653
Speaker 22: at the cost, I mean you only have to jump online.

1375
01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:30,133
Speaker 22: Look at how much cost to try and get from

1376
01:06:30,133 --> 01:06:32,013
Speaker 22: walk on the Queenstown and back. I mean you're paying

1377
01:06:32,053 --> 01:06:33,653
Speaker 22: more to do that than flying to Australia.

1378
01:06:33,973 --> 01:06:38,653
Speaker 3: I just flew the Queenstown last weekend. Simon, it was insane.

1379
01:06:38,773 --> 01:06:39,613
Speaker 2: How much can you say?

1380
01:06:39,653 --> 01:06:40,013
Speaker 11: How much?

1381
01:06:40,613 --> 01:06:43,493
Speaker 3: I don't even want to think about it.

1382
01:06:43,533 --> 01:06:45,693
Speaker 2: So that's that's four figures at least for the two

1383
01:06:45,733 --> 01:06:49,133
Speaker 2: of us return. Yeah, oh man, definitely, it's crazy. I

1384
01:06:49,133 --> 01:06:53,613
Speaker 2: can do my brother cheaper. Yeah, And it's nuts.

1385
01:06:53,653 --> 01:06:55,293
Speaker 22: And so you are asking people to jump on a

1386
01:06:55,293 --> 01:06:58,333
Speaker 22: plane and basically, you know, take control of the plane

1387
01:06:58,333 --> 01:07:01,573
Speaker 22: to head from New Zealand to another destination, another land

1388
01:07:01,733 --> 01:07:04,333
Speaker 22: rather than our own country, and it costs more. So

1389
01:07:04,773 --> 01:07:06,973
Speaker 22: you know, I think to myself, you're already paying a

1390
01:07:07,013 --> 01:07:09,733
Speaker 22: substantial amount of money any way to the airlines to

1391
01:07:09,733 --> 01:07:11,533
Speaker 22: do all this sort of stuff. And it's really up

1392
01:07:11,613 --> 01:07:13,613
Speaker 22: to them. I'm a business owner, and it's up to

1393
01:07:13,733 --> 01:07:16,253
Speaker 22: them to figure out, you know, the best way forward

1394
01:07:16,253 --> 01:07:18,133
Speaker 22: for their staff. And if it costs a little bit

1395
01:07:18,133 --> 01:07:21,573
Speaker 22: more to keep that service level and things go, you

1396
01:07:21,653 --> 01:07:22,493
Speaker 22: got to pay it.

1397
01:07:22,853 --> 01:07:23,093
Speaker 15: You know.

1398
01:07:23,213 --> 01:07:24,013
Speaker 11: That's just the world.

1399
01:07:24,053 --> 01:07:26,933
Speaker 2: That's yeah, thanks so much, Simon, appreciate it. Good thoughts

1400
01:07:27,133 --> 01:07:28,213
Speaker 2: are the one hundred and.

1401
01:07:28,213 --> 01:07:32,093
Speaker 3: Fifty dollars family tickets that was to Singapore, not Explore.

1402
01:07:32,293 --> 01:07:34,333
Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, that makes much more sense.

1403
01:07:34,453 --> 01:07:36,413
Speaker 3: They got spell checked from Singapore to explore.

1404
01:07:36,493 --> 01:07:38,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, very good, which is unfortunate. That's a good

1405
01:07:38,893 --> 01:07:40,573
Speaker 2: deal to Singapore. By the one hundred and fifty bucks.

1406
01:07:40,573 --> 01:07:42,973
Speaker 2: I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1407
01:07:43,013 --> 01:07:45,013
Speaker 2: to call if you've got a family member or you're

1408
01:07:45,053 --> 01:07:47,573
Speaker 2: yourself for a flight attendant, or have been a flight attendant.

1409
01:07:47,573 --> 01:07:50,213
Speaker 2: Love to hear how it was as a job. And

1410
01:07:50,253 --> 01:07:52,453
Speaker 2: coming up after we play some messages, we will have

1411
01:07:52,493 --> 01:07:54,733
Speaker 2: a chat to a partner of a flight attendant.

1412
01:07:54,893 --> 01:07:57,573
Speaker 3: And here's just a text. Being a flight attendant is

1413
01:07:57,613 --> 01:07:59,973
Speaker 3: a lifestyle choice. Getting paid to see the world is a.

1414
01:07:59,973 --> 01:08:03,013
Speaker 2: Pretty big staff benefit, nicely said seventeen to three.

1415
01:08:04,293 --> 01:08:09,133
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoon call, Oh,

1416
01:08:09,213 --> 01:08:11,493
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty youth talk.

1417
01:08:11,333 --> 01:08:14,893
Speaker 2: Said fourteen to three, And we are talking about flight attendants,

1418
01:08:14,933 --> 01:08:17,372
Speaker 2: Kevin crew, what is the job? I actually like.

1419
01:08:17,813 --> 01:08:20,333
Speaker 3: Guys, here's a little fact that many people won't know.

1420
01:08:20,412 --> 01:08:22,892
Speaker 3: In New Zealand pay four million dollars a day for fuel.

1421
01:08:23,053 --> 01:08:26,452
Speaker 3: It's for Michael yeah, and probably not Michael Wood from

1422
01:08:26,492 --> 01:08:30,092
Speaker 3: the year to union. That's a different Michael, I imagine. Yeah,

1423
01:08:30,133 --> 01:08:33,053
Speaker 3: So four million dollars a day in fuel quite a

1424
01:08:33,053 --> 01:08:33,852
Speaker 3: few days in a year.

1425
01:08:34,013 --> 01:08:35,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a lot of out going around sixty

1426
01:08:35,893 --> 01:08:38,253
Speaker 2: five yeah, yeah, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1427
01:08:38,293 --> 01:08:40,173
Speaker 2: set number of call, Mimi?

1428
01:08:40,372 --> 01:08:43,812
Speaker 3: Is is that if I pronounce your name right, Mimi? Yeah,

1429
01:08:43,893 --> 01:08:47,732
Speaker 3: me me, Mimi. Welcome to the show. So you've got

1430
01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:50,173
Speaker 3: a partner who's a flight attendant I have.

1431
01:08:50,532 --> 01:08:52,093
Speaker 6: He's actually away at the moment.

1432
01:08:52,532 --> 01:08:54,533
Speaker 3: Right, And is he international?

1433
01:08:55,572 --> 01:08:57,772
Speaker 6: He's international, he's been fined for a long time.

1434
01:08:59,452 --> 01:09:06,213
Speaker 2: And you continue so hello, Oh we just got a

1435
01:09:06,253 --> 01:09:08,492
Speaker 2: bit of a gap there, Mimi. Yeah, yeah, sorry, just

1436
01:09:08,492 --> 01:09:10,532
Speaker 2: got a bit of a delay. So I sure. I

1437
01:09:10,532 --> 01:09:12,652
Speaker 2: think you were just about to say, it's a great.

1438
01:09:12,412 --> 01:09:17,173
Speaker 6: Life, it's a great lifestyle. Yes, it's afforded us a

1439
01:09:17,173 --> 01:09:17,973
Speaker 6: great lifestyle.

1440
01:09:18,532 --> 01:09:22,372
Speaker 3: Right, So he gets paid well, he does.

1441
01:09:23,933 --> 01:09:26,772
Speaker 6: In the grand scheme of things. Yes, it's you know,

1442
01:09:26,933 --> 01:09:29,492
Speaker 6: time off that we can go off and do things.

1443
01:09:29,532 --> 01:09:34,213
Speaker 6: I go on trips with him, and we've done some

1444
01:09:34,293 --> 01:09:36,532
Speaker 6: great life experiences because of his job.

1445
01:09:37,572 --> 01:09:40,053
Speaker 2: What's the tough part about it? Mimi? You're just about saying, yes,

1446
01:09:40,053 --> 01:09:42,013
Speaker 2: it's tough. Is that because he's away quite a lot?

1447
01:09:43,612 --> 01:09:46,812
Speaker 6: Sometimes that can be that can be hard, But you're

1448
01:09:46,933 --> 01:09:50,492
Speaker 6: up to that. You know, after all these years, something happens,

1449
01:09:50,532 --> 01:09:54,732
Speaker 6: you get onto it, you knowed and sorry, my partner

1450
01:09:54,732 --> 01:09:58,932
Speaker 6: and I actually met on a flight years ago.

1451
01:10:00,412 --> 01:10:05,132
Speaker 2: Your attendant sorry was he was? He your flight attendant

1452
01:10:05,133 --> 01:10:07,612
Speaker 2: and you met on the flight when he was serving you?

1453
01:10:08,732 --> 01:10:08,892
Speaker 20: Yes?

1454
01:10:08,973 --> 01:10:09,293
Speaker 5: He was.

1455
01:10:09,572 --> 01:10:11,452
Speaker 2: Oh that's a romantic story.

1456
01:10:11,492 --> 01:10:13,253
Speaker 3: Wow, how do you pick up the flight attendant?

1457
01:10:16,732 --> 01:10:19,973
Speaker 6: Yeah? Well that's a long story. But anyway, Yeah, we

1458
01:10:20,293 --> 01:10:20,812
Speaker 6: got some time.

1459
01:10:21,173 --> 01:10:23,253
Speaker 3: Did he slip you? Did he slip you his number?

1460
01:10:25,652 --> 01:10:25,772
Speaker 23: Uh?

1461
01:10:27,173 --> 01:10:30,253
Speaker 6: No, I don't think he did, right.

1462
01:10:30,452 --> 01:10:32,813
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by the start of your story.

1463
01:10:34,692 --> 01:10:37,532
Speaker 6: We meet up later later in life.

1464
01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:44,652
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, bless and so so you must spend

1465
01:10:44,732 --> 01:10:48,452
Speaker 3: quite a bit of time on your own though, uh.

1466
01:10:48,612 --> 01:10:53,652
Speaker 6: Used to do Yeah, and that's right, you know, yeah,

1467
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:56,452
Speaker 6: you just you just got used to it over time.

1468
01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:58,812
Speaker 3: And how long has been doing it? How long has

1469
01:10:58,812 --> 01:10:59,372
Speaker 3: he been doing it?

1470
01:10:59,412 --> 01:11:05,012
Speaker 6: Form around around twenty years?

1471
01:11:05,213 --> 01:11:08,013
Speaker 3: And is he getting is he getting fatigued on it

1472
01:11:08,053 --> 01:11:10,173
Speaker 3: at all? Because there's a few people saying it's all

1473
01:11:10,213 --> 01:11:11,972
Speaker 3: right for a while, but then it starts to starts

1474
01:11:12,013 --> 01:11:14,532
Speaker 3: to get to you.

1475
01:11:14,572 --> 01:11:18,612
Speaker 6: No, lot, Hey, there's some long flights and you know,

1476
01:11:18,772 --> 01:11:22,213
Speaker 6: days off and you si can come home angry a bit,

1477
01:11:24,652 --> 01:11:26,492
Speaker 6: but you know, a few days at home amoone the

1478
01:11:26,532 --> 01:11:28,973
Speaker 6: lawns and having a few beers. He's he's already goes

1479
01:11:29,013 --> 01:11:29,652
Speaker 6: back into you.

1480
01:11:29,812 --> 01:11:32,372
Speaker 2: Oh he sounds like a good man. So the you know,

1481
01:11:32,452 --> 01:11:34,293
Speaker 2: I know them as buddy flights. Maybe they've got a

1482
01:11:34,333 --> 01:11:37,133
Speaker 2: different name, but obviously that has it's a nice perk

1483
01:11:37,213 --> 01:11:38,772
Speaker 2: for you guys and you as well to be able

1484
01:11:38,812 --> 01:11:40,772
Speaker 2: to travel to many exotic places.

1485
01:11:42,173 --> 01:11:46,852
Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely absolutely. And it allows our children to travel

1486
01:11:46,933 --> 01:11:51,173
Speaker 6: and our grandchildren. And yeah, it's a very generous perk.

1487
01:11:51,732 --> 01:11:54,333
Speaker 3: So how many how many people in his circle or

1488
01:11:54,933 --> 01:12:03,853
Speaker 3: get these reduced flights.

1489
01:12:00,053 --> 01:12:03,892
Speaker 6: Just well I get to travel with him, yea. And

1490
01:12:03,973 --> 01:12:08,052
Speaker 6: then there's then there's nine buddy passes, but our children

1491
01:12:08,133 --> 01:12:10,412
Speaker 6: and children you should take those off, right?

1492
01:12:10,893 --> 01:12:13,572
Speaker 3: How good? And is that flying stand by or do

1493
01:12:13,612 --> 01:12:14,852
Speaker 3: you actually get the tickets?

1494
01:12:15,973 --> 01:12:16,772
Speaker 6: No, it's stand by?

1495
01:12:16,973 --> 01:12:17,852
Speaker 2: Yeah. So is that of a.

1496
01:12:17,812 --> 01:12:20,812
Speaker 3: Backfight on you the standby? Oh?

1497
01:12:20,853 --> 01:12:21,532
Speaker 6: Once twice?

1498
01:12:21,652 --> 01:12:24,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But I mean it's so much cheaper, it's I.

1499
01:12:24,492 --> 01:12:27,773
Speaker 6: Mean, it's such a wonderful thing to be able to

1500
01:12:27,812 --> 01:12:30,972
Speaker 6: take your children and your grandchildren the way to different

1501
01:12:31,053 --> 01:12:33,532
Speaker 6: destinations and for them to experience the world.

1502
01:12:34,013 --> 01:12:35,532
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for calling in. So there

1503
01:12:35,532 --> 01:12:37,492
Speaker 3: you go very well for mem that's the positive side

1504
01:12:37,492 --> 01:12:39,612
Speaker 3: of things. Yeah, absolutely right, Oh one hundred and eighty.

1505
01:12:39,652 --> 01:12:41,452
Speaker 3: Ten eighty is that number to call back in a

1506
01:12:41,492 --> 01:12:43,173
Speaker 3: mode ten to three.

1507
01:12:43,452 --> 01:12:45,892
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1508
01:12:45,933 --> 01:12:50,532
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news Talks'd.

1509
01:12:50,053 --> 01:12:54,452
Speaker 2: Be News Talk'd b seven to three of the six

1510
01:12:54,572 --> 01:12:56,372
Speaker 2: says Michael would just put a hit out on Mimi.

1511
01:12:56,452 --> 01:12:58,772
Speaker 3: Now it sounds about it right, but someone was saying,

1512
01:12:58,812 --> 01:13:02,452
Speaker 3: please remember there are two contracts in long haul Mimmy's

1513
01:13:02,452 --> 01:13:05,412
Speaker 3: partners obviously on the old contract that pays very well.

1514
01:13:05,973 --> 01:13:08,173
Speaker 3: Very few on that contract now only about a hun

1515
01:13:08,372 --> 01:13:11,213
Speaker 3: undred and eighty. This is an interesting text. Hey, guys

1516
01:13:11,293 --> 01:13:13,333
Speaker 3: in New Zealand has said labor is the biggest cost

1517
01:13:13,333 --> 01:13:15,572
Speaker 3: in fuelers at Second Kevin, crew pay in New Zealand

1518
01:13:15,572 --> 01:13:18,852
Speaker 3: doesn't reflect the responsibility of the role or match overseas rates.

1519
01:13:18,893 --> 01:13:21,732
Speaker 3: But with these major cost pressures, the real question is

1520
01:13:21,772 --> 01:13:24,572
Speaker 3: what would consumers be willing to give up through higher

1521
01:13:24,652 --> 01:13:28,293
Speaker 3: faars or reduce services to pay crew what they're worth GSV.

1522
01:13:28,652 --> 01:13:30,372
Speaker 3: I mean that's always the problem. I mean, there's no

1523
01:13:30,412 --> 01:13:33,812
Speaker 3: one questioning that air crews don't do a fantastic job

1524
01:13:33,853 --> 01:13:37,412
Speaker 3: and they're incredibly skilled individuals, but also people are already

1525
01:13:37,412 --> 01:13:39,253
Speaker 3: wondering about how much they pay exactly.

1526
01:13:39,612 --> 01:13:44,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough problem. Eli. How are you Hi,

1527
01:13:45,572 --> 01:13:47,452
Speaker 2: Nice to chat with you. So you used to work

1528
01:13:47,532 --> 01:13:49,532
Speaker 2: for Emirates, says flight crew.

1529
01:13:50,652 --> 01:13:53,972
Speaker 19: Yeah, thanks to be Kevin crew for Emerates. They started

1530
01:13:53,933 --> 01:13:58,492
Speaker 19: as prior to COVID, so it might have changed a

1531
01:13:58,492 --> 01:14:01,412
Speaker 19: bit power but yeah, that he came out and they

1532
01:14:01,452 --> 01:14:05,652
Speaker 19: did they do sort of like an interfessional recruitment drive,

1533
01:14:05,692 --> 01:14:07,213
Speaker 19: and they came to New Zealand and they did one

1534
01:14:07,213 --> 01:14:10,612
Speaker 19: of the recruitment dates here and hundreds of us that

1535
01:14:10,692 --> 01:14:12,452
Speaker 19: went to the recruitment day and yeah, a few of

1536
01:14:12,532 --> 01:14:15,013
Speaker 19: us got selected. And then you have to move to Dubai.

1537
01:14:15,772 --> 01:14:16,253
Speaker 2: How good.

1538
01:14:16,572 --> 01:14:18,812
Speaker 3: Well, well, so you have to base yourself out of

1539
01:14:18,893 --> 01:14:20,372
Speaker 3: Dubai if your Emmerates crew.

1540
01:14:20,933 --> 01:14:24,012
Speaker 19: Yeah, so all Emirates crew are based in Dubai. Your

1541
01:14:24,053 --> 01:14:27,812
Speaker 19: accommodation is included as part of your package, so you

1542
01:14:27,812 --> 01:14:32,532
Speaker 19: don't pay for accommodations. You basically live in the staff

1543
01:14:32,532 --> 01:14:35,972
Speaker 19: accommodations they do. You can live separate right in your

1544
01:14:35,973 --> 01:14:38,892
Speaker 19: own place, but you've got to little fly and get

1545
01:14:38,893 --> 01:14:39,852
Speaker 19: ax from means to that.

1546
01:14:40,492 --> 01:14:42,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can't go out on the booze? What

1547
01:14:42,652 --> 01:14:43,772
Speaker 3: can you in Dubai you.

1548
01:14:43,732 --> 01:14:45,812
Speaker 15: Have to be I mean you can, Yeah, I don't

1549
01:14:45,812 --> 01:14:46,213
Speaker 15: know you can.

1550
01:14:46,532 --> 01:14:49,132
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, there's got quite a bit of party.

1551
01:14:49,372 --> 01:14:53,532
Speaker 2: By a right good to know. And and how was

1552
01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:53,972
Speaker 2: the job?

1553
01:14:55,452 --> 01:15:00,133
Speaker 19: Uh, it's a hard job, like I think, I think

1554
01:15:00,133 --> 01:15:03,333
Speaker 19: it's I mean, I don't doubt it's really challenging for

1555
01:15:03,452 --> 01:15:06,333
Speaker 19: Crewe and New Villains as well. But I think pretty

1556
01:15:06,372 --> 01:15:10,692
Speaker 19: much you're doing a huge amount when you're playing remmemorates

1557
01:15:11,173 --> 01:15:13,013
Speaker 19: being the golf being the center of the world, and

1558
01:15:13,053 --> 01:15:15,852
Speaker 19: then you're kind of just going all over the place

1559
01:15:15,893 --> 01:15:18,692
Speaker 19: and going to both the northern and southern humors for

1560
01:15:18,732 --> 01:15:22,572
Speaker 19: a deliver like that. Honestly, the the health impact your

1561
01:15:22,572 --> 01:15:25,572
Speaker 19: body as the reason I stopped I'm doing it. It's

1562
01:15:25,732 --> 01:15:27,173
Speaker 19: so hard on your body.

1563
01:15:27,213 --> 01:15:29,372
Speaker 2: Did Emirates look after you? I mean, I'll fly on

1564
01:15:29,412 --> 01:15:32,253
Speaker 2: Emirates once and it was a phenomenal whirligine. Did they

1565
01:15:32,253 --> 01:15:35,933
Speaker 2: pay well, Yeah, it's okay.

1566
01:15:35,812 --> 01:15:39,372
Speaker 19: Like your income and buys text free. It was just fantastic.

1567
01:15:39,492 --> 01:15:43,452
Speaker 19: And then a lot of perks and yeah, the flight

1568
01:15:43,692 --> 01:15:47,013
Speaker 19: flight perks are amazing, So like you fly stand by

1569
01:15:47,133 --> 01:15:48,173
Speaker 19: ninety percent off.

1570
01:15:48,692 --> 01:15:49,892
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's awesome.

1571
01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:53,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you so much. But the news is

1572
01:15:53,293 --> 01:15:54,092
Speaker 3: coming in fast.

1573
01:15:54,612 --> 01:15:58,412
Speaker 2: That was the sextasies. Matt Have you joined the mile

1574
01:15:58,452 --> 01:16:00,652
Speaker 2: high Club? What's that got to do with the chair? Oh?

1575
01:16:00,692 --> 01:16:03,492
Speaker 2: Come on, just answer the question, mate, have a thing

1576
01:16:03,532 --> 01:16:06,612
Speaker 2: about it. And maybe after three o'clock, but I'm a

1577
01:16:06,732 --> 01:16:11,253
Speaker 2: telling to go out to the news. He's thinking about it.

1578
01:16:11,333 --> 01:16:29,173
Speaker 1: Maybe your new home for Instateful and Entertaining Talk. It's

1579
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:33,773
Speaker 1: Mattie and Tyer Adams afternoons on Youth Talk Zebby.

1580
01:16:36,572 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 2: News TALKSB Welcome back into the program. Seven past three.

1581
01:16:39,652 --> 01:16:42,093
Speaker 3: We're just gonna move on from flights. But tell you

1582
01:16:42,133 --> 01:16:46,452
Speaker 3: who's ruthless. It's the people that security check your bags,

1583
01:16:46,532 --> 01:16:50,572
Speaker 3: your checked luggage for batteries and such. So I lost

1584
01:16:50,572 --> 01:16:52,412
Speaker 3: a power pack on the way down to Queen's down

1585
01:16:52,452 --> 01:16:54,213
Speaker 3: the weekend and you just get a little form saying

1586
01:16:54,372 --> 01:16:56,452
Speaker 3: they've taken it. There's no returning it. And I get

1587
01:16:56,452 --> 01:16:58,372
Speaker 3: that on a was a charging phone thing. I know

1588
01:16:58,412 --> 01:16:59,892
Speaker 3: that's in the rules. I've said it's not in there,

1589
01:17:00,333 --> 01:17:02,973
Speaker 3: but they're ruthless. And then on the way back and

1590
01:17:03,492 --> 01:17:06,372
Speaker 3: I just left tiny little earbuds in there. It's really good,

1591
01:17:06,372 --> 01:17:07,093
Speaker 3: new technical ones.

1592
01:17:07,133 --> 01:17:07,612
Speaker 2: What are they called.

1593
01:17:07,612 --> 01:17:10,253
Speaker 3: I've lost them now. They're fantastic. They're like the best

1594
01:17:10,293 --> 01:17:14,372
Speaker 3: earbuds I've ever had. Yeah, well what are they anyway,

1595
01:17:14,412 --> 01:17:17,932
Speaker 3: Not that it matters, but they're the techniques ah As

1596
01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:19,973
Speaker 3: one hundred adeptive.

1597
01:17:19,572 --> 01:17:21,213
Speaker 2: Noise canceling headphones sound real good.

1598
01:17:21,372 --> 01:17:22,612
Speaker 3: Two hundred and ninety eight bucks.

1599
01:17:22,732 --> 01:17:23,772
Speaker 2: They took them.

1600
01:17:24,053 --> 01:17:28,053
Speaker 3: They took them, Oh mate, they took up No, no, no, sorry,

1601
01:17:28,293 --> 01:17:31,532
Speaker 3: it was the techniqus Azy one hundred true wireless noise

1602
01:17:31,572 --> 01:17:34,692
Speaker 3: canceling earbuds. Anyway, but they went through and they just

1603
01:17:34,772 --> 01:17:36,333
Speaker 3: leave a little card and they'd sort of scribbled on

1604
01:17:36,372 --> 01:17:40,813
Speaker 3: it ear plugs instead of earbuds and taken them.

1605
01:17:41,173 --> 01:17:42,652
Speaker 2: So that so they must I don't know. I'd be

1606
01:17:42,692 --> 01:17:43,133
Speaker 2: interested to know.

1607
01:17:43,173 --> 01:17:45,173
Speaker 3: Do they scan and detect that you've got a battery

1608
01:17:45,213 --> 01:17:46,772
Speaker 3: left in there? And look, I get I'm not angry

1609
01:17:46,772 --> 01:17:49,652
Speaker 3: at them, because you know you don't want those fires

1610
01:17:49,652 --> 01:17:51,612
Speaker 3: starting in a plane, do you, And it's clearly in

1611
01:17:51,652 --> 01:17:53,532
Speaker 3: the rules, and you click the thing and you say,

1612
01:17:53,812 --> 01:17:56,692
Speaker 3: I don't have any of those batteries. But earbuds, you

1613
01:17:56,772 --> 01:17:58,572
Speaker 3: just they can end up in a pocket and your

1614
01:17:58,612 --> 01:18:01,252
Speaker 3: jeans or whatever. But it's ruthless how they just disappear.

1615
01:18:01,692 --> 01:18:02,532
Speaker 3: They're not taking them home?

1616
01:18:02,532 --> 01:18:04,652
Speaker 2: Are they you're a good man, I'd be I'd be livid.

1617
01:18:04,732 --> 01:18:06,452
Speaker 2: I got I got pissed off when they took my

1618
01:18:06,492 --> 01:18:08,173
Speaker 2: double A batteries And what are they like? A couple

1619
01:18:08,213 --> 01:18:11,013
Speaker 2: of two and ninety five bugs with the EarPods three

1620
01:18:11,053 --> 01:18:13,652
Speaker 2: hundred twenty eighth out from the good people and Noel

1621
01:18:13,732 --> 01:18:16,253
Speaker 2: leaving some security officer has got some nice EarPods.

1622
01:18:16,253 --> 01:18:18,612
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I mean, what's what is the policy on that?

1623
01:18:18,692 --> 01:18:21,213
Speaker 3: Do they just tip them out? Because I think I

1624
01:18:21,253 --> 01:18:23,812
Speaker 3: prefer that the person that took them out used them. Yeah,

1625
01:18:23,933 --> 01:18:25,412
Speaker 3: then them just being thrown in the rubbish?

1626
01:18:25,652 --> 01:18:28,892
Speaker 2: Is that highly corrupt though? I mean, that's flying into

1627
01:18:28,973 --> 01:18:31,012
Speaker 2: U gandras. I will tell you I said.

1628
01:18:30,772 --> 01:18:32,732
Speaker 3: That I didn't have any of those things when I

1629
01:18:32,772 --> 01:18:34,532
Speaker 3: when I checked my legs. You go through and you

1630
01:18:34,572 --> 01:18:37,372
Speaker 3: report it, right, Yeah, So my annoying it is to

1631
01:18:37,372 --> 01:18:41,253
Speaker 3: lose them. I've I've broken the contract. And you know,

1632
01:18:41,293 --> 01:18:42,933
Speaker 3: when those things go up, they keep burning, could be

1633
01:18:42,933 --> 01:18:44,253
Speaker 3: a disaster and the last thing you want to do

1634
01:18:44,372 --> 01:18:45,532
Speaker 3: is be on a plane that's on fire.

1635
01:18:45,612 --> 01:18:46,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep.

1636
01:18:47,253 --> 01:18:49,053
Speaker 3: So is it any better if they just throw them

1637
01:18:49,053 --> 01:18:51,093
Speaker 3: in the rubbish, isn't it? Isn't it better that you've

1638
01:18:51,093 --> 01:18:53,133
Speaker 3: got some security guard walking around with a sweet pair

1639
01:18:53,133 --> 01:18:55,213
Speaker 3: of headphones. That's better than them being in the rubbish? Yeah,

1640
01:18:55,213 --> 01:18:57,452
Speaker 3: because either way they have to take them out for safety.

1641
01:18:57,532 --> 01:18:57,732
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1642
01:18:57,812 --> 01:18:59,932
Speaker 2: Remember those police auctions. I think they still got them

1643
01:18:59,933 --> 01:19:01,852
Speaker 2: where they'll have an auction for all the things that

1644
01:19:01,893 --> 01:19:04,013
Speaker 2: they've taken. That's what they should do, right, Can you

1645
01:19:04,053 --> 01:19:06,452
Speaker 2: go down and buy some cocaine or something. I think

1646
01:19:07,013 --> 01:19:09,213
Speaker 2: if the price is right, you know, you're the highest bidder.

1647
01:19:09,532 --> 01:19:11,253
Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe that's what they should do. It's just

1648
01:19:11,293 --> 01:19:12,532
Speaker 2: have an auction at the end of each year and

1649
01:19:12,572 --> 01:19:14,692
Speaker 2: everything they've taken. Matt, you can get them back. Call

1650
01:19:14,732 --> 01:19:18,092
Speaker 2: the airport. They hold them for seven days. Ah okay,

1651
01:19:18,133 --> 01:19:20,772
Speaker 2: this is good news. Okay, and she if anyone's out

1652
01:19:20,772 --> 01:19:22,492
Speaker 2: there listening, just wring them right now and say you're

1653
01:19:22,532 --> 01:19:24,572
Speaker 2: Matt Heathen. Head down before Matt, and you can just

1654
01:19:24,612 --> 01:19:28,852
Speaker 2: have some free air pods. He's quickly trying to figure out,

1655
01:19:28,853 --> 01:19:32,412
Speaker 2: I keep the little forms. Ah, yeah, you go, mate,

1656
01:19:32,412 --> 01:19:34,572
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty eight dollars worth of airports that's

1657
01:19:34,612 --> 01:19:37,013
Speaker 2: still yours. Oh okay, all right, I'll give them ring

1658
01:19:37,093 --> 01:19:39,253
Speaker 2: all right, good, then it's good news. You've made his day.

1659
01:19:39,333 --> 01:19:41,093
Speaker 3: I tell you what winging pays off.

1660
01:19:41,173 --> 01:19:43,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly does. Winging pays off as all it

1661
01:19:43,692 --> 01:19:45,852
Speaker 2: comes through and the oracle is again the text machine

1662
01:19:45,893 --> 01:19:48,692
Speaker 2: oracle comes through. All right, All right, let's put that

1663
01:19:48,732 --> 01:19:50,692
Speaker 2: one to bed because we want to get into this one.

1664
01:19:50,692 --> 01:19:53,492
Speaker 2: It's a great story about Obviously, Metallica is on tonight,

1665
01:19:53,893 --> 01:19:55,333
Speaker 2: a lot of people very excited about a lot of

1666
01:19:55,333 --> 01:19:58,052
Speaker 2: bogans in town. Kerry Woodam just came in before actually

1667
01:19:58,093 --> 01:20:00,253
Speaker 2: and she was surprised by how many people are fizzed

1668
01:20:00,333 --> 01:20:01,133
Speaker 2: up for Metallica.

1669
01:20:01,732 --> 01:20:06,732
Speaker 3: Yes, so there's something like forty thousand bids being bocked

1670
01:20:07,013 --> 01:20:10,892
Speaker 3: in Auckland of people coming from out of town for Metallica. Yeah,

1671
01:20:10,973 --> 01:20:13,052
Speaker 3: quite a few people coming up the motorway from Hamilton

1672
01:20:13,093 --> 01:20:13,852
Speaker 3: I mentioned, yep.

1673
01:20:14,253 --> 01:20:15,852
Speaker 2: But we want to sort of focus in on the

1674
01:20:15,933 --> 01:20:20,372
Speaker 2: VIP experiences. So the VIP experience at Metallica tonight, if

1675
01:20:20,372 --> 01:20:22,892
Speaker 2: you've been lucky to secure it at costs just under

1676
01:20:22,893 --> 01:20:26,293
Speaker 2: four grand, but it included everything an exclusive viewing area,

1677
01:20:26,333 --> 01:20:29,132
Speaker 2: a meet and greet and photo with two bad members,

1678
01:20:29,293 --> 01:20:31,532
Speaker 2: a backstage two, a pre show party, where you get

1679
01:20:31,572 --> 01:20:35,132
Speaker 2: free drinks, Cannape's Priority lines, exclusive merch, and a recording

1680
01:20:35,173 --> 01:20:39,013
Speaker 2: of the concert. Wow, the snake Pet experience they called it.

1681
01:20:39,013 --> 01:20:41,812
Speaker 2: And how much is that? That's four grand? So I

1682
01:20:41,893 --> 01:20:43,532
Speaker 2: think I think the bulk of that has actually made

1683
01:20:43,612 --> 01:20:45,333
Speaker 2: up with the meat and Greek because then the next

1684
01:20:45,333 --> 01:20:47,532
Speaker 2: tier down is just under one thousand dollars nine hundred

1685
01:20:47,572 --> 01:20:50,173
Speaker 2: and ninety eight bucks, and that offers you access to

1686
01:20:50,213 --> 01:20:52,372
Speaker 2: the snake Pet, the pre show party, some merch in

1687
01:20:52,412 --> 01:20:54,333
Speaker 2: the show audio, but no band interaction.

1688
01:20:55,812 --> 01:20:58,452
Speaker 3: Yeah right, so if there's two of you, that's eight

1689
01:20:58,452 --> 01:20:59,092
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.

1690
01:20:59,812 --> 01:21:00,252
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1691
01:21:00,293 --> 01:21:02,572
Speaker 3: But you know, if you've been a lifetime Metallica fan,

1692
01:21:03,612 --> 01:21:04,812
Speaker 3: pretty good to meet the band, wouldn't it.

1693
01:21:04,973 --> 01:21:06,652
Speaker 2: Hire. I mean for a lot of people, that would

1694
01:21:06,652 --> 01:21:10,253
Speaker 2: be a once in a lifetime situation. And if you love,

1695
01:21:10,492 --> 01:21:13,452
Speaker 2: you know something, because like Metallica as much as some

1696
01:21:13,492 --> 01:21:16,133
Speaker 2: people do, that would be money well spent.

1697
01:21:16,772 --> 01:21:18,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it'd be interesting to hear, you know, how

1698
01:21:19,013 --> 01:21:21,812
Speaker 3: you feel after you've spent as a couple eight thousand

1699
01:21:21,853 --> 01:21:24,972
Speaker 3: dollars and you know, yeah, you shake James he James

1700
01:21:25,053 --> 01:21:28,412
Speaker 3: Hetfield hand you maybe, I don't know, you're a selfie

1701
01:21:28,412 --> 01:21:31,532
Speaker 3: with a Kirk Hammett. You know, yeah, maybe you just

1702
01:21:31,532 --> 01:21:33,412
Speaker 3: walked past Lars. I don't know who you like.

1703
01:21:33,372 --> 01:21:36,973
Speaker 2: In the band my one hundred eighty ten eighty VP experiences.

1704
01:21:37,013 --> 01:21:40,173
Speaker 2: Have you done it and was it worth the money generally? Though? Mate?

1705
01:21:40,173 --> 01:21:42,093
Speaker 2: Would you? Could you think of someone you would pay

1706
01:21:42,093 --> 01:21:45,093
Speaker 2: four grand to have away a we meet with?

1707
01:21:45,893 --> 01:21:50,213
Speaker 3: If I could, if David Bowie was still alive, yep,

1708
01:21:50,492 --> 01:21:52,892
Speaker 3: that would be like meeting a god. Maybe like meeting

1709
01:21:52,893 --> 01:21:56,412
Speaker 3: a person that's beyond human. Yeah, that would be incredible.

1710
01:21:56,452 --> 01:21:58,372
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be lucky in my life that I've

1711
01:21:58,372 --> 01:22:00,892
Speaker 3: managed got to interview a lot of these these people.

1712
01:22:02,013 --> 01:22:04,372
Speaker 3: I got to meet a Beatle. I interviewed Paul McCartney.

1713
01:22:04,412 --> 01:22:06,012
Speaker 2: That was pretty much. That would have been huge. Yeah,

1714
01:22:06,053 --> 01:22:07,932
Speaker 2: he's almost a god himself. Yeah.

1715
01:22:07,933 --> 01:22:09,852
Speaker 3: But I've been in these VIP packages because I've got

1716
01:22:10,372 --> 01:22:12,492
Speaker 3: one of my favorite podcasters is coming to town, the

1717
01:22:12,532 --> 01:22:15,692
Speaker 3: Modern Wisdom guy, Chris Williamson, and there's these VIP meet

1718
01:22:15,692 --> 01:22:18,013
Speaker 3: and greet packages. But I'm like, you know, I'll go

1719
01:22:18,013 --> 01:22:20,612
Speaker 3: and send the crowd. I don't know do I need

1720
01:22:20,652 --> 01:22:23,333
Speaker 3: to pay insane amount of money to meet a podcaster?

1721
01:22:23,572 --> 01:22:25,372
Speaker 2: I don't know how much FaceTime do you get with them?

1722
01:22:25,452 --> 01:22:27,972
Speaker 2: Is it literally just high? I'm such and such, shake

1723
01:22:28,013 --> 01:22:30,133
Speaker 2: their hand, take a photo, and then move on. Oh eight,

1724
01:22:30,133 --> 01:22:32,133
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1725
01:22:32,173 --> 01:22:35,293
Speaker 2: if you've done VIP experiences before, love to hear how

1726
01:22:35,293 --> 01:22:36,372
Speaker 2: it went and who was it?

1727
01:22:36,492 --> 01:22:36,692
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1728
01:22:36,732 --> 01:22:37,253
Speaker 3: What are they like?

1729
01:22:37,293 --> 01:22:37,772
Speaker 2: What is it like?

1730
01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:39,852
Speaker 3: Meaning the band and the band into it? Are they

1731
01:22:40,133 --> 01:22:42,532
Speaker 3: not into it? Is it worth paying these kind of

1732
01:22:42,612 --> 01:22:45,932
Speaker 3: huge amounts of money to get these VIP packages?

1733
01:22:46,572 --> 01:22:48,692
Speaker 2: After the break as well, I will mention I don't

1734
01:22:48,692 --> 01:22:50,293
Speaker 2: know if I'll name names, maybe I will, but it

1735
01:22:50,333 --> 01:22:52,492
Speaker 2: was someone who used to work on this radio station

1736
01:22:52,692 --> 01:22:54,492
Speaker 2: and he paid a heck of a lot of money

1737
01:22:54,492 --> 01:22:56,612
Speaker 2: to meet Britney Spears. I'll tell you how much he paid.

1738
01:22:57,093 --> 01:23:00,093
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. It was crazy how much he paid. Really, yeah,

1739
01:23:00,213 --> 01:23:01,932
Speaker 2: I'll tell you how much after the break it it's

1740
01:23:01,973 --> 01:23:02,972
Speaker 2: thirteen bars three.

1741
01:23:03,093 --> 01:23:04,692
Speaker 3: I don't think I pay more than fifteen bucks to

1742
01:23:04,692 --> 01:23:05,452
Speaker 3: meet Britney Spears.

1743
01:23:05,572 --> 01:23:08,133
Speaker 2: Was more than that. His talks'd be afternoon to you.

1744
01:23:08,333 --> 01:23:12,532
Speaker 2: Sixteen passed three. So we're talking about VIP experiences meet

1745
01:23:12,612 --> 01:23:15,852
Speaker 2: and greets as well. We've ever paid to meet a hero,

1746
01:23:15,973 --> 01:23:19,732
Speaker 2: whether that was a musician or whether it was someone

1747
01:23:19,732 --> 01:23:22,093
Speaker 2: who was performing a speaking event. I had one hundred

1748
01:23:22,093 --> 01:23:23,092
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is number.

1749
01:23:23,253 --> 01:23:25,412
Speaker 3: Was it worth it? Was it worth the money? Because

1750
01:23:25,652 --> 01:23:27,173
Speaker 3: doesn't it just better to go to a concert and

1751
01:23:27,213 --> 01:23:29,572
Speaker 3: sit there and enjoy the music and as an audience

1752
01:23:29,612 --> 01:23:31,492
Speaker 3: member when you have to add and all that meeting

1753
01:23:32,053 --> 01:23:34,732
Speaker 3: your hero's business, this Texas is I paid big money

1754
01:23:34,772 --> 01:23:37,652
Speaker 3: for a VIP meet and Greek never again. The artists

1755
01:23:37,893 --> 01:23:41,053
Speaker 3: who I won't mention because I'm still a fan, they

1756
01:23:41,053 --> 01:23:44,812
Speaker 3: looked terrible, small and wrinkly. I don't want to feel

1757
01:23:44,812 --> 01:23:45,732
Speaker 3: sorry for my heroes.

1758
01:23:46,692 --> 01:23:48,532
Speaker 2: Now, just quickly before we get to the phones and

1759
01:23:48,572 --> 01:23:50,293
Speaker 2: the Texas I mentioned there was someone that used to

1760
01:23:50,293 --> 01:23:53,812
Speaker 2: work on this station went to go see Britney Spears

1761
01:23:53,853 --> 01:23:56,012
Speaker 2: and paid a ridiculous amount of money to meet her.

1762
01:23:56,372 --> 01:23:58,173
Speaker 2: So it was in Las Vegas when she was doing

1763
01:23:58,173 --> 01:23:59,812
Speaker 2: what do they call it when they stay in Las

1764
01:23:59,933 --> 01:24:03,333
Speaker 2: Vegas and they got contracts residency? Yeah, right, So she

1765
01:24:03,372 --> 01:24:06,372
Speaker 2: had a residency and he went over there and without

1766
01:24:06,412 --> 01:24:08,492
Speaker 2: a word of a lie to meet Britney Spears. It

1767
01:24:08,532 --> 01:24:11,612
Speaker 2: was just one photo and one and done. Hi, I'm

1768
01:24:11,652 --> 01:24:13,972
Speaker 2: such and such high on Brittany. Here's your photo bugger

1769
01:24:14,013 --> 01:24:15,892
Speaker 2: off and she was probably high as well. Yeah, yep,

1770
01:24:16,053 --> 01:24:19,213
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars that might have actually been US money

1771
01:24:19,213 --> 01:24:19,652
Speaker 2: as well.

1772
01:24:19,732 --> 01:24:21,693
Speaker 3: Seven thousand to meet Britney.

1773
01:24:21,333 --> 01:24:25,452
Speaker 2: Spears for less than thirty seconds. Wow, that's some crazy money.

1774
01:24:25,532 --> 01:24:27,732
Speaker 2: And did this person think it was with it? He did? Actually?

1775
01:24:27,853 --> 01:24:28,133
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1776
01:24:28,173 --> 01:24:31,293
Speaker 3: And so was he a big Britney Spears for massive

1777
01:24:31,333 --> 01:24:33,852
Speaker 3: Britney Spears for I mean she's had some good songs.

1778
01:24:33,893 --> 01:24:35,812
Speaker 3: How can you be a massive Britney Spears then? I

1779
01:24:35,812 --> 01:24:37,212
Speaker 3: mean poison?

1780
01:24:37,253 --> 01:24:39,572
Speaker 2: Great song? Yeah, yeah, great song. I don't know this.

1781
01:24:40,732 --> 01:24:43,213
Speaker 2: I mean people will know potentially who he was, but

1782
01:24:43,652 --> 01:24:46,013
Speaker 2: knew all the moves. I couldn't understand it. I don't know. Ah,

1783
01:24:46,053 --> 01:24:48,253
Speaker 2: he's been seven k to meet Britney Spears, but he

1784
01:24:48,293 --> 01:24:48,692
Speaker 2: loved it.

1785
01:24:49,732 --> 01:24:51,772
Speaker 3: Nick, you paid VIP for the Dixie checks?

1786
01:24:51,772 --> 01:24:52,213
Speaker 2: How was it?

1787
01:24:53,333 --> 01:24:53,532
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1788
01:24:53,572 --> 01:24:58,012
Speaker 8: It was amazing. Front row seats eight hundred dollars a ticket,

1789
01:24:58,853 --> 01:25:03,972
Speaker 8: no meets, and Greek got merchandise. Was amazing. Another one

1790
01:25:04,013 --> 01:25:08,972
Speaker 8: was Leonard Cohen. Oh wow, I can't I don't remember

1791
01:25:09,013 --> 01:25:13,732
Speaker 8: how much. The tickets were very very We're in the

1792
01:25:13,732 --> 01:25:15,452
Speaker 8: front row with Mike Hoskins.

1793
01:25:16,013 --> 01:25:19,893
Speaker 3: Well that's that's that's some pretty special tickets. Was that

1794
01:25:20,013 --> 01:25:21,293
Speaker 3: on the ticket price, you'll be near.

1795
01:25:21,213 --> 01:25:23,932
Speaker 8: My I would pay four I would pay four grand

1796
01:25:24,253 --> 01:25:27,492
Speaker 8: to meet and reek Cold play easy easy.

1797
01:25:29,053 --> 01:25:32,372
Speaker 2: Well there's someone in the studio mate that did go

1798
01:25:32,412 --> 01:25:33,532
Speaker 2: and meet Cold Blay.

1799
01:25:33,572 --> 01:25:35,652
Speaker 3: All you've got to do is do a positive review

1800
01:25:35,692 --> 01:25:38,612
Speaker 3: and in my case, they'll invite you to the pre

1801
01:25:39,013 --> 01:25:40,572
Speaker 3: show circle and.

1802
01:25:40,933 --> 01:25:41,492
Speaker 2: Up on stage.

1803
01:25:42,013 --> 01:25:43,492
Speaker 8: Chris Martin, Yeah.

1804
01:25:43,253 --> 01:25:45,852
Speaker 3: That's right, what a lovely chap he was too. Hey,

1805
01:25:45,933 --> 01:25:48,213
Speaker 3: yeah with with with Did you meet Leonard Cohen?

1806
01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:50,572
Speaker 2: No?

1807
01:25:50,572 --> 01:25:52,692
Speaker 8: No, but we were front row seat?

1808
01:25:53,492 --> 01:25:54,812
Speaker 2: And was that at spark Arena.

1809
01:25:54,893 --> 01:25:57,612
Speaker 8: He was very he was a really Yeah, he was

1810
01:25:57,692 --> 01:26:00,293
Speaker 8: a really old man. At the end of the show,

1811
01:26:00,772 --> 01:26:04,692
Speaker 8: he was very, very tired. Right, but you see he

1812
01:26:04,812 --> 01:26:08,732
Speaker 8: put everything into the show, and the musos would just

1813
01:26:09,293 --> 01:26:09,612
Speaker 8: it was.

1814
01:26:09,572 --> 01:26:10,452
Speaker 2: A great content.

1815
01:26:10,572 --> 01:26:10,732
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1816
01:26:10,732 --> 01:26:12,652
Speaker 3: I saw them at Sparkering and that that blew my

1817
01:26:12,692 --> 01:26:15,333
Speaker 3: mind how good the band was. It's about the best band.

1818
01:26:16,213 --> 01:26:16,773
Speaker 8: Amazing.

1819
01:26:17,093 --> 01:26:19,053
Speaker 2: Yeah did you go? Yeah? Did you hear that?

1820
01:26:19,133 --> 01:26:20,893
Speaker 3: He had that great speech where he said he was

1821
01:26:20,893 --> 01:26:22,572
Speaker 3: talking about his drummer. I can't mean we see he goes.

1822
01:26:22,652 --> 01:26:25,572
Speaker 3: But drummer doesn't just lay down the beat. He he

1823
01:26:25,973 --> 01:26:28,492
Speaker 3: dates the beat. He takes the beat home with him.

1824
01:26:28,572 --> 01:26:30,452
Speaker 3: He showers the beat. He said, I can't remember the

1825
01:26:30,452 --> 01:26:33,372
Speaker 3: exec words, but there was this beautiful speech about how

1826
01:26:33,412 --> 01:26:34,293
Speaker 3: great the drummer was.

1827
01:26:34,293 --> 01:26:35,212
Speaker 2: It was so classic.

1828
01:26:36,372 --> 01:26:38,293
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a class all the way.

1829
01:26:38,492 --> 01:26:40,532
Speaker 9: And the tensy chicks were bloody good.

1830
01:26:43,253 --> 01:26:44,692
Speaker 7: That was in Spark Arena.

1831
01:26:44,933 --> 01:26:48,812
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And and so so you

1832
01:26:48,812 --> 01:26:49,613
Speaker 3: you swear.

1833
01:26:49,372 --> 01:26:55,972
Speaker 8: By the Mission. We saw them Mission of State three

1834
01:26:56,053 --> 01:26:59,372
Speaker 8: or four years before they came to Auckland, and they

1835
01:26:59,452 --> 01:27:03,452
Speaker 8: were they were really good there, but then the Augron

1836
01:27:03,572 --> 01:27:07,213
Speaker 8: show just blew my mind, was just so good.

1837
01:27:07,732 --> 01:27:10,013
Speaker 3: So you swear by that because are you going with

1838
01:27:10,013 --> 01:27:10,532
Speaker 3: the partner?

1839
01:27:12,293 --> 01:27:13,612
Speaker 8: Yeah, my wife and I went.

1840
01:27:13,853 --> 01:27:16,293
Speaker 3: So that's like sixteen hundred dollars for the two of you,

1841
01:27:16,452 --> 01:27:18,492
Speaker 3: right absolutely, And with.

1842
01:27:18,333 --> 01:27:22,333
Speaker 8: The price of tickets, the price of tickets are really jumped.

1843
01:27:23,652 --> 01:27:25,852
Speaker 2: And what did you get for that neck? So obviously

1844
01:27:25,893 --> 01:27:28,372
Speaker 2: you got Premiere City right off the front. You got

1845
01:27:28,372 --> 01:27:28,732
Speaker 2: some merch.

1846
01:27:28,973 --> 01:27:32,612
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, we got two t shirts, We got a

1847
01:27:32,612 --> 01:27:36,572
Speaker 8: Dixie Chick bag each, we got a program that was

1848
01:27:36,933 --> 01:27:41,053
Speaker 8: pretty useless, and we got and then we've got I

1849
01:27:41,053 --> 01:27:46,732
Speaker 8: think we got wine glasses, classic wine glasses that said

1850
01:27:46,732 --> 01:27:47,932
Speaker 8: the Dixie checks on them.

1851
01:27:47,973 --> 01:27:52,572
Speaker 2: It's not bad. Still got those not yeah, nope, no, no,

1852
01:27:52,572 --> 01:27:55,732
Speaker 2: no fair enough. Yeah, but no. It sounds like, look,

1853
01:27:55,772 --> 01:27:58,173
Speaker 2: if you love the Dixie Checks and Leonard Cohen and

1854
01:27:58,213 --> 01:27:59,972
Speaker 2: a lot of people do. Sounds like it was well

1855
01:27:59,973 --> 01:28:00,492
Speaker 2: worth the money.

1856
01:28:00,532 --> 01:28:00,652
Speaker 11: Neck.

1857
01:28:02,093 --> 01:28:05,812
Speaker 8: I would spend six k just to meet Chris Martin.

1858
01:28:06,692 --> 01:28:09,492
Speaker 2: The problem the price is going up. I started at

1859
01:28:09,492 --> 01:28:11,133
Speaker 2: four and now you're at sex. Well, tell you what

1860
01:28:11,532 --> 01:28:12,812
Speaker 2: I can tell you if you meet him. He's a

1861
01:28:12,812 --> 01:28:13,333
Speaker 2: good cuddler.

1862
01:28:13,452 --> 01:28:17,333
Speaker 3: He gave me a big, big hug and it was

1863
01:28:17,372 --> 01:28:20,692
Speaker 3: purely because I gave gave the concert a good review

1864
01:28:20,812 --> 01:28:22,333
Speaker 3: on my cost ging and he said to me as

1865
01:28:22,333 --> 01:28:24,053
Speaker 3: having a bad day, and then then he heard this

1866
01:28:24,692 --> 01:28:27,133
Speaker 3: guy reviewing it and saying how good the show was,

1867
01:28:27,372 --> 01:28:28,972
Speaker 3: and it made his day. So he got his people

1868
01:28:28,973 --> 01:28:31,093
Speaker 3: to reach out to me to come along and gave

1869
01:28:31,133 --> 01:28:33,812
Speaker 3: me the VIP experience. Me and my partner Tracy, we

1870
01:28:33,812 --> 01:28:35,932
Speaker 3: were in the huddle with the whole band before before

1871
01:28:35,973 --> 01:28:36,452
Speaker 3: we went on.

1872
01:28:36,532 --> 01:28:39,173
Speaker 9: Were you in the marsh or were you backstage?

1873
01:28:39,492 --> 01:28:40,133
Speaker 2: Backstage?

1874
01:28:40,452 --> 01:28:43,572
Speaker 3: And then just before they went on, and he stood

1875
01:28:43,572 --> 01:28:46,172
Speaker 3: around and goes, this is this is Matthew and Tracy.

1876
01:28:46,612 --> 01:28:48,652
Speaker 3: And I was having a rough day, as you know,

1877
01:28:49,013 --> 01:28:51,972
Speaker 3: and Matthew he kept calling Matthew. No one calls Matthew,

1878
01:28:52,013 --> 01:28:57,492
Speaker 3: but I let it slow, that's great and go all right, okay, yeah,

1879
01:28:57,532 --> 01:28:58,732
Speaker 3: I got on your I think a lot of people

1880
01:28:58,732 --> 01:29:00,093
Speaker 3: wanted to me to stop that story.

1881
01:29:00,572 --> 01:29:02,293
Speaker 2: Oh it's a hell of an experience, mate, you are.

1882
01:29:02,333 --> 01:29:05,093
Speaker 2: It's a nas getting mat Thank you very much. One

1883
01:29:05,173 --> 01:29:08,972
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty your best VIP experience you've had? Oh,

1884
01:29:09,013 --> 01:29:10,933
Speaker 2: you know, if you've met someone that was a bit

1885
01:29:10,973 --> 01:29:13,013
Speaker 2: of an idol to you, hero to you? How what

1886
01:29:13,093 --> 01:29:13,452
Speaker 2: was it like?

1887
01:29:13,652 --> 01:29:15,492
Speaker 3: Hey, boys, I want to meet and greet with the

1888
01:29:15,572 --> 01:29:18,052
Speaker 3: Dandy Warholes. Great band when they played at the power Station.

1889
01:29:18,213 --> 01:29:20,573
Speaker 3: Was a huge fan from the nineties. Was so disappointed.

1890
01:29:20,612 --> 01:29:22,732
Speaker 3: Lead singer was that guy Courtneys and their lead singer

1891
01:29:22,732 --> 01:29:24,973
Speaker 3: was rude so and so, and the drum was so

1892
01:29:25,053 --> 01:29:27,812
Speaker 3: drunk he wasn't really speaking English anymore. Glad I didn't

1893
01:29:27,812 --> 01:29:32,412
Speaker 3: pay for the experience, Jeers Jason, The Dandy Warholes, great band,

1894
01:29:32,652 --> 01:29:35,412
Speaker 3: great recording band, but terrible life.

1895
01:29:35,492 --> 01:29:38,052
Speaker 2: And yeah, were they too loose?

1896
01:29:38,133 --> 01:29:42,412
Speaker 3: They just clearly well I think they're big marijuana enthusiasts,

1897
01:29:42,412 --> 01:29:45,652
Speaker 3: and sometimes they can just get right back into the

1898
01:29:45,692 --> 01:29:46,772
Speaker 3: pocket and not really perform.

1899
01:29:46,812 --> 01:29:48,692
Speaker 2: In the two times I've seen them, like, oh, eight

1900
01:29:48,732 --> 01:29:51,013
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It's

1901
01:29:51,053 --> 01:29:53,372
Speaker 2: twenty two past three, bag very shortly.

1902
01:29:57,093 --> 01:30:00,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1903
01:30:00,532 --> 01:30:02,652
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on used talk ZB.

1904
01:30:02,612 --> 01:30:05,613
Speaker 2: Twenty five past three. So we're talking about VIP experiences?

1905
01:30:05,692 --> 01:30:07,572
Speaker 2: Is it worth the money? The six is wow?

1906
01:30:07,652 --> 01:30:10,372
Speaker 3: Disgustingtruggling with your comment. How could you be a massive

1907
01:30:10,372 --> 01:30:12,812
Speaker 3: fan of Britney Spears? How could you say such a thing?

1908
01:30:12,893 --> 01:30:13,053
Speaker 15: Oh?

1909
01:30:13,093 --> 01:30:13,452
Speaker 2: No fan?

1910
01:30:13,492 --> 01:30:16,732
Speaker 3: But gee, because there's massive fans of her, have been

1911
01:30:16,772 --> 01:30:17,532
Speaker 3: for twenty years.

1912
01:30:17,652 --> 01:30:18,133
Speaker 2: How could you.

1913
01:30:18,133 --> 01:30:21,333
Speaker 3: Say such a thing being sarcastic about Britney Spears. Yeah, no,

1914
01:30:21,772 --> 01:30:24,213
Speaker 3: I just you know the people that I think that

1915
01:30:24,253 --> 01:30:26,572
Speaker 3: you're a fan of. I just don't like it doesn't

1916
01:30:26,612 --> 01:30:29,293
Speaker 3: have to be more than just the songs that other

1917
01:30:29,293 --> 01:30:33,093
Speaker 3: people write for them that they perform, because I don't

1918
01:30:33,093 --> 01:30:34,852
Speaker 3: get it. I'm not judging, I just don't get that's

1919
01:30:34,853 --> 01:30:35,692
Speaker 3: not the type person that.

1920
01:30:35,652 --> 01:30:36,772
Speaker 2: I'd be a massive fan of.

1921
01:30:36,973 --> 01:30:39,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, that Britney Spears, I mean great, Don't get me wrong.

1922
01:30:39,732 --> 01:30:41,412
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of Toxic. What a great song

1923
01:30:41,452 --> 01:30:43,052
Speaker 3: that is? Maybe one more.

1924
01:30:42,893 --> 01:30:44,492
Speaker 2: Time Yep, a couple of bangers there.

1925
01:30:44,532 --> 01:30:47,172
Speaker 3: But as I did it again, there's some great songs

1926
01:30:47,452 --> 01:30:51,132
Speaker 3: work bitch yep, not so good, not so good.

1927
01:30:51,692 --> 01:30:54,133
Speaker 2: But you're right, it's a credibility. I mean, look, nothing wrong,

1928
01:30:54,133 --> 01:30:55,732
Speaker 2: well Britney, and she's had a life.

1929
01:30:55,772 --> 01:30:58,452
Speaker 3: But yeah, be fans of whoever you want to be

1930
01:30:58,492 --> 01:31:01,532
Speaker 3: a fan of. But is it the same as Paul

1931
01:31:01,612 --> 01:31:02,852
Speaker 3: McCartney for example?

1932
01:31:02,973 --> 01:31:03,213
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1933
01:31:03,412 --> 01:31:07,013
Speaker 2: Is it the same as you know, David Bowie if

1934
01:31:07,053 --> 01:31:08,652
Speaker 2: you ever had a chance, James head Field?

1935
01:31:09,492 --> 01:31:14,692
Speaker 3: Is it the same deepness of fandom? I mean, asn't

1936
01:31:14,692 --> 01:31:18,732
Speaker 3: Brittany spears a bunch of songs and some crazy Instagram videos.

1937
01:31:18,853 --> 01:31:20,692
Speaker 2: It sums are up pretty well, I think, and I.

1938
01:31:20,652 --> 01:31:23,732
Speaker 3: Think they need you know how they went to courts

1939
01:31:23,812 --> 01:31:26,013
Speaker 3: because her dad was looking after her. Yeah, I think

1940
01:31:26,093 --> 01:31:27,253
Speaker 3: that was a bad decision.

1941
01:31:27,293 --> 01:31:29,253
Speaker 2: That was a really bad decision. Yeah, she'd had a life,

1942
01:31:29,253 --> 01:31:32,133
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Peter, how are you mating?

1943
01:31:33,412 --> 01:31:33,612
Speaker 11: Hey?

1944
01:31:33,652 --> 01:31:33,972
Speaker 7: Boys?

1945
01:31:35,013 --> 01:31:38,732
Speaker 9: I never paid for a VIP experience. I spent time

1946
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:44,933
Speaker 9: waiting to hopefully meet people after an NFL game and Dallas,

1947
01:31:45,093 --> 01:31:48,732
Speaker 9: I stayed around after the game, said like just under

1948
01:31:48,812 --> 01:31:50,932
Speaker 9: four hours and met John Madden.

1949
01:31:51,333 --> 01:31:53,813
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh my goodness.

1950
01:31:53,492 --> 01:31:57,333
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was blown away. And I also met Leon Let,

1951
01:31:57,372 --> 01:32:02,213
Speaker 9: which was one of the Dallas Cowboys aligneman at the time.

1952
01:32:03,133 --> 01:32:06,093
Speaker 9: And that was four hours and that was just I

1953
01:32:06,253 --> 01:32:09,133
Speaker 9: was with a whole bunch of other people, I like

1954
01:32:09,213 --> 01:32:12,932
Speaker 9: you could say staff parking at the old stadium, and

1955
01:32:12,973 --> 01:32:16,652
Speaker 9: the busses for the Giants left, and other cowboys left

1956
01:32:16,652 --> 01:32:20,812
Speaker 9: in their own cars. And yeah, and John Madden heaved

1957
01:32:20,812 --> 01:32:25,412
Speaker 9: his way up in the little un and I shook

1958
01:32:25,452 --> 01:32:28,732
Speaker 9: his hand and in his gruff, gruff voice and told

1959
01:32:28,812 --> 01:32:30,452
Speaker 9: him that I had come all the way from New

1960
01:32:30,532 --> 01:32:33,932
Speaker 9: Zealand to watch the Cowboys play at home and he

1961
01:32:33,973 --> 01:32:36,412
Speaker 9: was plowing away and I was so happy to meet him.

1962
01:32:36,452 --> 01:32:39,013
Speaker 9: I was just stoked. And yeah, it was It was

1963
01:32:39,013 --> 01:32:39,532
Speaker 9: a good time.

1964
01:32:39,853 --> 01:32:42,253
Speaker 2: Well, it would have been a big unit.

1965
01:32:42,293 --> 01:32:46,652
Speaker 3: And in real life was he I reckon?

1966
01:32:46,732 --> 01:32:49,573
Speaker 9: He was pushing at least one hundred and sixty kilos

1967
01:32:49,692 --> 01:32:53,812
Speaker 9: with six plus feet on them. He was his hands

1968
01:32:53,853 --> 01:32:56,133
Speaker 9: were met like like I'm a big guy in his

1969
01:32:56,293 --> 01:33:00,133
Speaker 9: hands the war they were just made. I was, I

1970
01:33:00,173 --> 01:33:03,133
Speaker 9: was just little, but he was very gruff, and.

1971
01:33:03,133 --> 01:33:04,133
Speaker 7: I get it.

1972
01:33:04,173 --> 01:33:07,333
Speaker 9: He had been at at the stadium for six hours already.

1973
01:33:07,372 --> 01:33:10,853
Speaker 9: And then as analysis after the game and his crossovers

1974
01:33:10,853 --> 01:33:13,852
Speaker 9: and all that, but he was he was still made

1975
01:33:13,893 --> 01:33:16,852
Speaker 9: time for his fans, and he jumped in his little

1976
01:33:17,013 --> 01:33:19,052
Speaker 9: suv and he was gone.

1977
01:33:19,253 --> 01:33:21,253
Speaker 3: Well that's the interesting thing, you say, all that time

1978
01:33:21,293 --> 01:33:23,213
Speaker 3: that he's done at the ground, but also because he

1979
01:33:23,412 --> 01:33:26,053
Speaker 3: didn't like flying, so at any given game that he

1980
01:33:26,173 --> 01:33:30,692
Speaker 3: was covering, he had got there across you know by

1981
01:33:30,812 --> 01:33:33,972
Speaker 3: land been been on the bus for a long time,

1982
01:33:34,013 --> 01:33:36,892
Speaker 3: often legend. But what that's a great it's a great

1983
01:33:36,893 --> 01:33:38,892
Speaker 3: person to have met John Madden. I just watched a

1984
01:33:38,893 --> 01:33:42,492
Speaker 3: documentary a couple of months ago called Madden, and it's

1985
01:33:42,612 --> 01:33:44,372
Speaker 3: just such an interesting life and so you know just

1986
01:33:44,412 --> 01:33:48,492
Speaker 3: how he revolutionized commentary hit fantastic. Yeah, yeah, And not

1987
01:33:48,532 --> 01:33:50,652
Speaker 3: to mention video games, video games amazing.

1988
01:33:50,933 --> 01:33:53,293
Speaker 9: I was just about I had all the Madden games

1989
01:33:54,933 --> 01:33:58,452
Speaker 9: and I had no intention of meeting. I had no

1990
01:33:58,532 --> 01:34:00,892
Speaker 9: idea who would come out of the tunnel. And you know,

1991
01:34:01,013 --> 01:34:04,492
Speaker 9: been a Cowboys fan, I was only interested in Cowboys fans.

1992
01:34:04,572 --> 01:34:06,372
Speaker 9: And then seeing the rest of the crowd ract to

1993
01:34:07,093 --> 01:34:10,253
Speaker 9: the big fuller, it was holy cow, I'm here.

1994
01:34:10,652 --> 01:34:10,932
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1995
01:34:11,213 --> 01:34:13,213
Speaker 2: Speaks to the character of someone like that. You know,

1996
01:34:13,293 --> 01:34:15,012
Speaker 2: as you say, you've been there for four hours waiting

1997
01:34:15,013 --> 01:34:16,692
Speaker 2: for him. He done the job, and then to go

1998
01:34:16,772 --> 01:34:19,372
Speaker 2: out there and say get a to everybody who loved him. Yeah,

1999
01:34:19,372 --> 01:34:20,613
Speaker 2: what a what a giant.

2000
01:34:20,812 --> 01:34:24,772
Speaker 9: And crappy, crappy American winter. So it was pretty cool.

2001
01:34:27,093 --> 01:34:30,293
Speaker 9: So totally worth it. And you know, I don't know

2002
01:34:30,333 --> 01:34:32,293
Speaker 9: how much you'd put on that.

2003
01:34:32,652 --> 01:34:35,772
Speaker 3: My god, John Madden, that's that's phenomenal, Peter, that's so good.

2004
01:34:35,973 --> 01:34:38,293
Speaker 3: I was and this thing I was watching on John Madden.

2005
01:34:38,492 --> 01:34:41,133
Speaker 3: So the video game he was. They were developing the

2006
01:34:41,213 --> 01:34:43,492
Speaker 3: video game with him, and they just wanted his name

2007
01:34:43,532 --> 01:34:45,372
Speaker 3: on it. But he wasn't that kind of guy. And

2008
01:34:45,412 --> 01:34:48,412
Speaker 3: they were trying to have I think seven players on

2009
01:34:49,053 --> 01:34:50,932
Speaker 3: the field, and He's like, I'm not going to have

2010
01:34:50,973 --> 01:34:54,772
Speaker 3: my name on a game that's you know, an American

2011
01:34:54,772 --> 01:34:57,372
Speaker 3: football game that doesn't have all eleven players on the field.

2012
01:34:57,372 --> 01:35:01,173
Speaker 3: I'm not just I'm not doing that. So so he

2013
01:35:01,213 --> 01:35:03,052
Speaker 3: put his foot, he put his foot down, and.

2014
01:35:02,933 --> 01:35:05,732
Speaker 2: Thank god he did, because what a series of games

2015
01:35:06,013 --> 01:35:08,572
Speaker 2: Madden NFL man, Yeah, some of the best.

2016
01:35:08,612 --> 01:35:10,612
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the reason why I'm a fan of

2017
01:35:10,652 --> 01:35:13,532
Speaker 3: American football NFLS from playing Madden from a young age.

2018
01:35:13,612 --> 01:35:16,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten to eighty is the

2019
01:35:16,173 --> 01:35:17,892
Speaker 2: number to call love to hear who you've met your

2020
01:35:17,973 --> 01:35:21,772
Speaker 2: VIP experiences. Was it worth the money? Ninety ninety two

2021
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:24,532
Speaker 2: is their text number as well. Headlines with Raylene coming.

2022
01:35:24,412 --> 01:35:30,253
Speaker 13: Up jus talks it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis

2023
01:35:30,412 --> 01:35:32,213
Speaker 13: It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2024
01:35:32,572 --> 01:35:35,732
Speaker 16: The Minister for Rail says our two new Cookstrait fairies,

2025
01:35:35,812 --> 01:35:38,612
Speaker 16: due in twenty twenty nine, will be less than two

2026
01:35:38,732 --> 01:35:42,412
Speaker 16: billion dollars. The inter Islander fairies, with capacity for about

2027
01:35:42,452 --> 01:35:45,772
Speaker 16: fifteen hundred passengers, are being built under a five hundred

2028
01:35:45,812 --> 01:35:50,173
Speaker 16: and ninety six million dollar fixed price contract. A report

2029
01:35:50,213 --> 01:35:53,892
Speaker 16: by Boston Consulting Group finds our gas supply could have

2030
01:35:53,973 --> 01:35:57,132
Speaker 16: in the next five years, but suggests focusing on building

2031
01:35:57,213 --> 01:36:01,732
Speaker 16: hydro geothermal, wind and solar power resources and slowing the

2032
01:36:01,812 --> 01:36:05,572
Speaker 16: gas decline. The Climate to Minister is spoken at the

2033
01:36:05,572 --> 01:36:08,892
Speaker 16: COP thirty conference in Brazil and promised to keep alive

2034
01:36:08,973 --> 01:36:12,772
Speaker 16: the global goal of limiting warming to one point five degrees.

2035
01:36:13,812 --> 01:36:16,972
Speaker 16: A Masterton man's been arrested for attempting to smuggle millions

2036
01:36:17,013 --> 01:36:19,892
Speaker 16: of dollars worth of meth in ten packages sent through

2037
01:36:19,893 --> 01:36:22,732
Speaker 16: the mail. Some drugs were concealed in a painting and

2038
01:36:22,853 --> 01:36:27,412
Speaker 16: skating knee pads. The countdown's begun for January's twenty twenty

2039
01:36:27,452 --> 01:36:31,772
Speaker 16: six World Buskers Festival with a fresh Marty and pacifica focus.

2040
01:36:32,732 --> 01:36:37,932
Speaker 16: We changed that boy's life. Neurodivergent classroom furniture goes global.

2041
01:36:38,293 --> 01:36:41,133
Speaker 16: You can see the full story at Nset Herald Premium.

2042
01:36:41,133 --> 01:36:43,253
Speaker 16: Back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

2043
01:36:42,812 --> 01:36:46,653
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylan's. We are talking about VIP experiences.

2044
01:36:46,692 --> 01:36:49,612
Speaker 2: Have you done it and was it worth the money?

2045
01:36:50,093 --> 01:36:52,852
Speaker 3: I got free tickets to Robbie Williams after show in London.

2046
01:36:52,893 --> 01:36:54,812
Speaker 3: Robie Williams didn't show up, but I ended up in

2047
01:36:54,812 --> 01:36:58,133
Speaker 3: the middle of an argument with the Pittchhop Boys. When

2048
01:36:58,173 --> 01:37:00,173
Speaker 3: I tried to interview, they told me to pass off

2049
01:37:00,293 --> 01:37:03,532
Speaker 3: as from Kurt. That's interesting, So what are that Neil

2050
01:37:03,612 --> 01:37:08,132
Speaker 3: Tennant and Chris someone of the Pitchhop Boys, the keyboardist

2051
01:37:08,133 --> 01:37:10,132
Speaker 3: in the singer and they're.

2052
01:37:09,933 --> 01:37:13,932
Speaker 2: Having an argument. Wow, I told you to pass off.

2053
01:37:13,933 --> 01:37:16,532
Speaker 2: I mentionine, that was a pretty posh argument. Yeah, that's

2054
01:37:16,572 --> 01:37:17,253
Speaker 2: a great story.

2055
01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:19,013
Speaker 3: Westin Girls still a fantastic song.

2056
01:37:19,053 --> 01:37:22,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good song. Right now, as we're reading the story,

2057
01:37:22,973 --> 01:37:25,652
Speaker 2: it turns out someone that we Know and Love on

2058
01:37:25,732 --> 01:37:29,813
Speaker 2: the show was quoted in this particular article about VIP experiences.

2059
01:37:29,853 --> 01:37:32,333
Speaker 2: Her name is jess Davidson, and she's back with us

2060
01:37:32,412 --> 01:37:32,972
Speaker 2: on the phone.

2061
01:37:33,013 --> 01:37:36,372
Speaker 4: Get a jess Hey guys, so soon we're back.

2062
01:37:36,492 --> 01:37:38,973
Speaker 3: Well Davidson from the country, Dot CO, dot and Z

2063
01:37:39,572 --> 01:37:41,212
Speaker 3: a VIP experience with Eminem.

2064
01:37:41,372 --> 01:37:44,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about cider. But the reason we

2065
01:37:44,452 --> 01:37:47,213
Speaker 2: didn't realize is they called you, Jessica Davidson, and nobody.

2066
01:37:46,893 --> 01:37:50,293
Speaker 18: Called trying to go in cognitio. But hey, I've been

2067
01:37:50,333 --> 01:37:50,972
Speaker 18: I've been sprung.

2068
01:37:51,173 --> 01:37:52,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jessica Davidson.

2069
01:37:54,013 --> 01:37:57,333
Speaker 2: So yeah, so talk to us about Eminem. So how

2070
01:37:57,412 --> 01:38:00,212
Speaker 2: much did you pay for the VIP experience of Eminem?

2071
01:38:00,253 --> 01:38:02,133
Speaker 2: He was here what about five years ago?

2072
01:38:02,812 --> 01:38:05,173
Speaker 18: Yeah, so this is a concert in Wellington.

2073
01:38:05,333 --> 01:38:07,492
Speaker 4: Now there's a bit of a backstory because I've been

2074
01:38:07,772 --> 01:38:10,772
Speaker 4: a huge and since I was a teenager. And when

2075
01:38:10,812 --> 01:38:12,692
Speaker 4: he first came to Western Springs, I think it was

2076
01:38:12,732 --> 01:38:16,652
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. He came in February, but I just had

2077
01:38:16,692 --> 01:38:19,932
Speaker 4: my son in January, so I had tickets. I couldn't go.

2078
01:38:20,053 --> 01:38:22,893
Speaker 4: I was absolutely gutted, but I promised myself if he

2079
01:38:22,973 --> 01:38:26,012
Speaker 4: ever came back that I would go VIP no matter

2080
01:38:26,093 --> 01:38:28,452
Speaker 4: what it costs and what experiences they were. But of

2081
01:38:28,452 --> 01:38:32,293
Speaker 4: course Marshall Mathers is quite a private guy and there

2082
01:38:32,333 --> 01:38:36,293
Speaker 4: was no meat and greet, so these were just VIP

2083
01:38:36,652 --> 01:38:39,652
Speaker 4: standing tickets and they were five hundred dollars each.

2084
01:38:40,452 --> 01:38:41,732
Speaker 18: And I looked at it and.

2085
01:38:41,692 --> 01:38:44,293
Speaker 4: I thought, the captin is massive?

2086
01:38:44,973 --> 01:38:46,333
Speaker 18: Am I even going to see him again?

2087
01:38:46,372 --> 01:38:48,652
Speaker 4: I've been waiting so long and I just bit the

2088
01:38:48,652 --> 01:38:51,452
Speaker 4: bollet and I did it, and I'm so glad I did.

2089
01:38:51,933 --> 01:38:53,692
Speaker 18: It was worth every penny.

2090
01:38:54,013 --> 01:38:56,572
Speaker 4: But I couldn't work out, like, how do you have

2091
01:38:56,812 --> 01:39:01,932
Speaker 4: VIP standing with the segregation? But essentially what they did

2092
01:39:02,133 --> 01:39:06,052
Speaker 4: was you went to the Cape tin early about seven

2093
01:39:06,093 --> 01:39:08,652
Speaker 4: am the morning of the concert and q up in

2094
01:39:08,652 --> 01:39:10,812
Speaker 4: this VIP line and they gave you a card with

2095
01:39:10,853 --> 01:39:13,933
Speaker 4: a number on it, and then what you did with

2096
01:39:14,013 --> 01:39:15,772
Speaker 4: you you went about your day. We went out and

2097
01:39:15,853 --> 01:39:19,412
Speaker 4: enjoyed Wellington. It was a stunner, sat at the waterfront,

2098
01:39:19,412 --> 01:39:20,813
Speaker 4: had a few beers's.

2099
01:39:20,412 --> 01:39:23,293
Speaker 18: And went back. And then they lined us up in

2100
01:39:23,452 --> 01:39:24,253
Speaker 18: the number order.

2101
01:39:25,173 --> 01:39:27,732
Speaker 4: And then what they did was they walked us in

2102
01:39:27,812 --> 01:39:31,333
Speaker 4: a very orderly line to the front row. So we

2103
01:39:31,452 --> 01:39:33,093
Speaker 4: ended up front row middle.

2104
01:39:33,013 --> 01:39:34,452
Speaker 3: And did you have to fight for that? Once you

2105
01:39:34,452 --> 01:39:37,132
Speaker 3: were there, did you have to look after your territory?

2106
01:39:37,333 --> 01:39:39,693
Speaker 2: Jeez, No, No, everyone.

2107
01:39:39,412 --> 01:39:41,732
Speaker 4: Was very respectful of each other, like we're all in

2108
01:39:41,772 --> 01:39:42,333
Speaker 4: the same boat.

2109
01:39:42,333 --> 01:39:44,492
Speaker 18: But the only problem was Eminem had.

2110
01:39:44,372 --> 01:39:48,092
Speaker 4: About three opening acts, so we had to really time

2111
01:39:48,772 --> 01:39:52,973
Speaker 4: when we stopped having beers's and how long we were

2112
01:39:53,013 --> 01:39:53,612
Speaker 4: going to be there.

2113
01:39:53,652 --> 01:39:56,053
Speaker 18: But I tell you what, we were standing.

2114
01:39:55,692 --> 01:39:58,732
Speaker 4: Probably for about four hours before even started in that spot.

2115
01:39:59,372 --> 01:40:01,572
Speaker 4: But to be in the front row middle when you've

2116
01:40:01,612 --> 01:40:04,732
Speaker 4: been waiting to see this artist most of your adult life,

2117
01:40:05,372 --> 01:40:08,292
Speaker 4: and when he came out and he's literally two meters away.

2118
01:40:08,053 --> 01:40:11,372
Speaker 3: And you can read the tattoos, that's awesome.

2119
01:40:11,853 --> 01:40:14,492
Speaker 4: It was just, oh, I'm getting good stunce talking about it.

2120
01:40:14,853 --> 01:40:15,852
Speaker 2: Superstar mind blowing.

2121
01:40:16,893 --> 01:40:18,732
Speaker 3: You have the energy to twerk or do any hip

2122
01:40:18,732 --> 01:40:20,012
Speaker 3: hop dancing or you share.

2123
01:40:21,853 --> 01:40:25,293
Speaker 4: I was literally just because I luckily had the rail

2124
01:40:25,372 --> 01:40:27,452
Speaker 4: in front of me, so I just I leaned on

2125
01:40:27,492 --> 01:40:30,213
Speaker 4: that the whole time. But he went for I think

2126
01:40:30,293 --> 01:40:33,612
Speaker 4: two hours, and it was just it was worth every penny.

2127
01:40:33,652 --> 01:40:35,532
Speaker 4: Like you, if you're going to go and see someone

2128
01:40:35,572 --> 01:40:37,532
Speaker 4: you really love and you don't know if you're going

2129
01:40:37,572 --> 01:40:39,132
Speaker 4: to do it again, just pay the difference.

2130
01:40:39,532 --> 01:40:40,253
Speaker 18: Make sure you.

2131
01:40:40,173 --> 01:40:42,532
Speaker 4: Get the prime spot and the best experience because it's

2132
01:40:42,572 --> 01:40:43,253
Speaker 4: well worth it.

2133
01:40:43,333 --> 01:40:44,412
Speaker 3: Did you cry and stand?

2134
01:40:45,213 --> 01:40:48,333
Speaker 4: I did? I tried when he came out. I'm such

2135
01:40:48,333 --> 01:40:51,972
Speaker 4: a loser, Honestly. The security guards like, dude, just pull yourself.

2136
01:40:53,853 --> 01:40:57,412
Speaker 4: You're embarrassing yourself. But I don't like when you're a

2137
01:40:57,412 --> 01:41:00,852
Speaker 4: fan of a musician and you've always wanted to see

2138
01:41:00,893 --> 01:41:03,333
Speaker 4: them and then they're right there and you're hearing them

2139
01:41:03,572 --> 01:41:06,253
Speaker 4: and making eye contact with them. I just don't think

2140
01:41:06,253 --> 01:41:09,852
Speaker 4: any amount of money can repay that. It's just worth

2141
01:41:09,893 --> 01:41:11,053
Speaker 4: every cent if you love them.

2142
01:41:11,253 --> 01:41:14,852
Speaker 3: What's your favorite eminem albums? I'll give you mine in order.

2143
01:41:14,893 --> 01:41:16,372
Speaker 3: Are you ready and this is going to shock you,

2144
01:41:16,492 --> 01:41:20,173
Speaker 3: Jess Okay, the Slim Shady LP nineteen ninety nine is

2145
01:41:20,772 --> 01:41:21,652
Speaker 3: the original one.

2146
01:41:22,093 --> 01:41:23,492
Speaker 2: Then this is going to freak out.

2147
01:41:23,532 --> 01:41:27,093
Speaker 3: Kamakazi from twenty eighteen, it's my second favorite, and then

2148
01:41:27,133 --> 01:41:29,933
Speaker 3: the Marshall Mathers LP from two thousand. But the Kamakazie

2149
01:41:30,213 --> 01:41:32,933
Speaker 3: what a comeback with the Bacie Boys tribute, it was fantastic.

2150
01:41:33,612 --> 01:41:36,812
Speaker 4: I would actually say probably Marshall Meathers LP would be

2151
01:41:36,812 --> 01:41:38,852
Speaker 4: my number one. My number two would actually be the

2152
01:41:38,933 --> 01:41:41,772
Speaker 4: Death of Slim Shady Curdigra what she brought out last year.

2153
01:41:42,013 --> 01:41:43,012
Speaker 18: If you actually listened.

2154
01:41:42,772 --> 01:41:47,412
Speaker 4: To that, he brings back eminem and uses audio technology

2155
01:41:47,492 --> 01:41:50,572
Speaker 4: to make him sound like Slim Shady used to and

2156
01:41:50,692 --> 01:41:54,012
Speaker 4: actually battles himself. So I would say probably slim Shady

2157
01:41:54,133 --> 01:41:55,972
Speaker 4: LP three and then Chemakazie four.

2158
01:41:56,173 --> 01:41:56,652
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

2159
01:41:56,732 --> 01:42:00,213
Speaker 3: That's Jess Davidson from the Country dot cod and says.

2160
01:42:00,293 --> 01:42:02,093
Speaker 3: She says, spend the money for the p.

2161
01:42:02,333 --> 01:42:04,253
Speaker 2: You're a dark horse, jests you may never see that

2162
01:42:04,372 --> 01:42:07,253
Speaker 2: artist again. You know a lot about farming and Marshall

2163
01:42:07,293 --> 01:42:08,773
Speaker 2: Methers is fairtastic.

2164
01:42:09,412 --> 01:42:11,812
Speaker 18: Yeah, thank you. I'll get back to the scrumpy Hens.

2165
01:42:13,173 --> 01:42:14,812
Speaker 2: You've been on scrumpy hands since we last talk to you.

2166
01:42:14,853 --> 01:42:20,093
Speaker 2: That's good. Good tonight? Uh Phil, who have you met? Yeah?

2167
01:42:20,093 --> 01:42:20,572
Speaker 2: Good mate?

2168
01:42:21,692 --> 01:42:23,092
Speaker 7: Have I met? Where do I start?

2169
01:42:23,973 --> 01:42:24,412
Speaker 24: Years ago?

2170
01:42:24,452 --> 01:42:25,853
Speaker 7: Beach Boys behind stage?

2171
01:42:26,612 --> 01:42:27,092
Speaker 3: Oh wow?

2172
01:42:27,652 --> 01:42:28,972
Speaker 2: So which Beach Boys were there?

2173
01:42:29,013 --> 01:42:29,133
Speaker 24: What?

2174
01:42:29,013 --> 01:42:29,133
Speaker 15: What?

2175
01:42:29,372 --> 01:42:32,572
Speaker 7: What era was that when they played at Killy Tour

2176
01:42:32,612 --> 01:42:33,372
Speaker 7: and christch.

2177
01:42:34,093 --> 01:42:36,892
Speaker 2: I had no idea. I mean call me naive and

2178
01:42:36,893 --> 01:42:38,933
Speaker 2: and many people do that. So what year was that?

2179
01:42:40,812 --> 01:42:41,173
Speaker 7: Oh good?

2180
01:42:41,253 --> 01:42:41,692
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2181
01:42:44,173 --> 01:42:45,972
Speaker 7: Also did the Glass Spotted Tour?

2182
01:42:46,333 --> 01:42:48,052
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Yeah, oh my god?

2183
01:42:48,612 --> 01:42:53,093
Speaker 7: Wesh and Springs I've done. I've actually met all the

2184
01:42:53,133 --> 01:42:54,812
Speaker 7: cast of mister Brown's Boys.

2185
01:42:55,692 --> 01:42:56,892
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, but.

2186
01:42:58,732 --> 01:43:01,213
Speaker 7: Bunny his health. A lot of them. But the one

2187
01:43:01,213 --> 01:43:02,932
Speaker 7: that stuck in mine, Mine is yestually really.

2188
01:43:02,772 --> 01:43:05,733
Speaker 3: Idol oh right, and when.

2189
01:43:06,013 --> 01:43:08,333
Speaker 7: Looking out to looking out to a line of people,

2190
01:43:08,412 --> 01:43:12,572
Speaker 7: they're getting their photos and as a family at the end,

2191
01:43:12,652 --> 01:43:15,013
Speaker 7: and he was tired, the lead singer was tired. And

2192
01:43:15,133 --> 01:43:17,093
Speaker 7: what Bolly did was there she grabbed their son, put

2193
01:43:17,173 --> 01:43:19,772
Speaker 7: him on his shoulder, then fart attacking with him. A

2194
01:43:20,213 --> 01:43:23,412
Speaker 7: how good, very very humble man. It's just amazing to

2195
01:43:23,452 --> 01:43:26,132
Speaker 7: see it, just so very emotional, very very humble.

2196
01:43:26,572 --> 01:43:29,293
Speaker 3: So you're a security guard to the stars then, so

2197
01:43:29,333 --> 01:43:31,372
Speaker 3: you do a lot of concerts to your film.

2198
01:43:31,812 --> 01:43:33,892
Speaker 7: I did did now I've done too lot to them now,

2199
01:43:33,973 --> 01:43:36,492
Speaker 7: but yeah, they see a lot of a lot of people.

2200
01:43:36,612 --> 01:43:38,053
Speaker 7: Yeah it was great. I met a lot of a

2201
01:43:38,093 --> 01:43:38,692
Speaker 7: lot of stars.

2202
01:43:38,933 --> 01:43:40,892
Speaker 2: So did you did you meet Brian Wilson with the

2203
01:43:40,893 --> 01:43:42,652
Speaker 2: Beach Boys? He would have been touring then he doesn't.

2204
01:43:42,652 --> 01:43:43,612
Speaker 2: He didn't really tour with them.

2205
01:43:45,973 --> 01:43:48,053
Speaker 7: Met the whole group. One that really stuck there was

2206
01:43:48,053 --> 01:43:50,133
Speaker 7: a doctor was hard person swinging on the caravan door.

2207
01:43:51,253 --> 01:43:53,092
Speaker 2: Wait he did? Sorry, so that again, I just missed

2208
01:43:53,093 --> 01:43:54,852
Speaker 2: that someone pissed on the caravan.

2209
01:43:55,013 --> 01:43:58,173
Speaker 7: Doctor was half drunk. You're swinging on the caravan or

2210
01:43:58,213 --> 01:43:59,572
Speaker 7: at the behind stage. It was funny.

2211
01:43:59,652 --> 01:44:01,333
Speaker 2: There's there's a sort of GP you want a round

2212
01:44:01,412 --> 01:44:03,132
Speaker 2: on on a rock to it.

2213
01:44:03,853 --> 01:44:05,333
Speaker 3: Were good on your felt and it's good to you

2214
01:44:05,452 --> 01:44:06,812
Speaker 3: to believe Idol was good guy. I went to see

2215
01:44:06,853 --> 01:44:08,972
Speaker 3: him at Western Springs. It just couple of years ago.

2216
01:44:09,093 --> 01:44:10,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, over it was awesome.

2217
01:44:10,893 --> 01:44:12,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I think his voice went for the

2218
01:44:12,293 --> 01:44:14,612
Speaker 3: later shows, but it was so good. What's the name

2219
01:44:14,612 --> 01:44:18,293
Speaker 3: of his Steve Stevens's guitarists fantastic. Yeah, this text is

2220
01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:21,133
Speaker 3: had a recent golf day. People paid twelve thousand for

2221
01:44:21,173 --> 01:44:23,293
Speaker 3: a round of golf with Ryan Fox and six thousand

2222
01:44:23,293 --> 01:44:24,132
Speaker 3: with Body Barrett.

2223
01:44:24,213 --> 01:44:29,213
Speaker 2: Nice. Twelve k for Ryan Fox charity. Yeah a good cause.

2224
01:44:29,492 --> 01:44:31,492
Speaker 2: A right, we've got full boards. If you can't get through. Oh,

2225
01:44:31,532 --> 01:44:33,972
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Love to hear about

2226
01:44:33,973 --> 01:44:37,333
Speaker 2: your VIP experiences. Who did you meet and was it

2227
01:44:37,412 --> 01:44:40,093
Speaker 2: worth it? It is eighteen to four this Texas said.

2228
01:44:40,093 --> 01:44:43,692
Speaker 3: Britney Spears recently met a ghost during her sixty minute

2229
01:44:43,692 --> 01:44:44,812
Speaker 3: interview with Diane Sawyer.

2230
01:44:45,492 --> 01:44:48,812
Speaker 2: Right, that interesting life. I said, well, she met a

2231
01:44:48,812 --> 01:44:50,333
Speaker 2: ghost during an interview. That's awesome.

2232
01:44:51,532 --> 01:44:53,892
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and if it have fun

2233
01:44:54,013 --> 01:44:54,612
Speaker 5: along the way.

2234
01:44:54,853 --> 01:44:59,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk ZIBB very good.

2235
01:44:59,812 --> 01:45:02,692
Speaker 2: Afternoons. It is a quarter to four and we're talking

2236
01:45:02,692 --> 01:45:06,732
Speaker 2: about VIP experience or celebrities you've met and what was

2237
01:45:06,772 --> 01:45:07,173
Speaker 2: it like.

2238
01:45:10,093 --> 01:45:13,852
Speaker 10: Hi, guys, I'm going back to nineteen seventy three.

2239
01:45:14,013 --> 01:45:14,852
Speaker 15: I think it was.

2240
01:45:16,452 --> 01:45:17,493
Speaker 18: A crappy little.

2241
01:45:17,213 --> 01:45:21,013
Speaker 10: Boarding school kid age about sixteen and a friend of

2242
01:45:21,013 --> 01:45:23,013
Speaker 10: mine and I step, can we go to the Kenny.

2243
01:45:22,772 --> 01:45:25,532
Speaker 20: Rodgers concert, which we were allowed to do in our

2244
01:45:25,532 --> 01:45:28,452
Speaker 20: school uniforms, and I remembering in the elegant then and

2245
01:45:29,213 --> 01:45:31,932
Speaker 20: after the show, one of us said, I wonder if

2246
01:45:31,933 --> 01:45:33,053
Speaker 20: we can get an autograph.

2247
01:45:33,612 --> 01:45:35,172
Speaker 7: So we spoke to one of the crow.

2248
01:45:35,173 --> 01:45:37,492
Speaker 25: And said any chance getting an autograph from the guys,

2249
01:45:38,053 --> 01:45:39,612
Speaker 25: And he said, oh, hang on a minute, I'll go

2250
01:45:39,652 --> 01:45:42,772
Speaker 25: and see if Kenny's available. A minute later, Kenny Rodgers

2251
01:45:42,812 --> 01:45:45,972
Speaker 25: himself walks out, meets us and greets us, says, come

2252
01:45:46,013 --> 01:45:49,133
Speaker 25: on back, let's have a chat, kid, And we spent

2253
01:45:49,253 --> 01:45:53,293
Speaker 25: about twenty minutes in the dressing room with them, having

2254
01:45:53,333 --> 01:45:55,213
Speaker 25: an amazing conversation.

2255
01:45:54,692 --> 01:45:57,173
Speaker 10: About goodness knows, what's between year old girls talk about.

2256
01:45:58,933 --> 01:46:02,092
Speaker 10: And some years later I was discussing with my stepmother,

2257
01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:04,452
Speaker 10: who used to fly long haul with their New Zealans,

2258
01:46:04,532 --> 01:46:06,333
Speaker 10: and I said, you know what a great man Kenny

2259
01:46:06,412 --> 01:46:06,933
Speaker 10: Rogers is.

2260
01:46:07,572 --> 01:46:08,652
Speaker 20: She said, yep, and.

2261
01:46:08,692 --> 01:46:09,892
Speaker 21: Just something you don't know about him.

2262
01:46:09,893 --> 01:46:10,412
Speaker 18: I said, what's that?

2263
01:46:11,053 --> 01:46:12,173
Speaker 25: She said, every time?

2264
01:46:12,213 --> 01:46:16,812
Speaker 2: He oh, oh wait, just old there.

2265
01:46:16,933 --> 01:46:20,093
Speaker 3: We just just you said the last scenes we heard

2266
01:46:20,133 --> 01:46:22,892
Speaker 3: before you cut out, was your mum saying every time,

2267
01:46:23,013 --> 01:46:24,293
Speaker 3: and then it cut out, So it just can you

2268
01:46:24,293 --> 01:46:24,732
Speaker 3: say that again?

2269
01:46:24,772 --> 01:46:24,972
Speaker 6: Please?

2270
01:46:25,013 --> 01:46:25,293
Speaker 20: Sorry?

2271
01:46:25,652 --> 01:46:26,052
Speaker 9: Okay.

2272
01:46:26,133 --> 01:46:28,772
Speaker 10: So my stepmother used to fly long Hall with their

2273
01:46:28,812 --> 01:46:33,333
Speaker 10: New Dealers and she said every time there was only

2274
01:46:33,412 --> 01:46:36,773
Speaker 10: first class and economy class in those days, no business class,

2275
01:46:37,013 --> 01:46:39,173
Speaker 10: she said, every time a New Dealers offered.

2276
01:46:38,973 --> 01:46:41,412
Speaker 20: Him first class seat and he said.

2277
01:46:41,213 --> 01:46:45,093
Speaker 10: No, my crew again, my band, my roadies all flow

2278
01:46:45,173 --> 01:46:46,092
Speaker 10: economy class.

2279
01:46:46,173 --> 01:46:49,213
Speaker 7: I'm setting my thanks very much people.

2280
01:46:49,412 --> 01:46:51,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, so what what what year was it that

2281
01:46:52,412 --> 01:46:53,293
Speaker 3: Kenny Rogers?

2282
01:46:54,053 --> 01:46:56,133
Speaker 20: Pretty sure it was seventy three He was doing a

2283
01:46:56,213 --> 01:46:58,492
Speaker 20: kick underneaed and then I was at school down there.

2284
01:46:58,853 --> 01:47:01,092
Speaker 3: Wow, So that was that was before his big hats

2285
01:47:01,133 --> 01:47:03,412
Speaker 3: like the gambler and coward of the county and such

2286
01:47:03,572 --> 01:47:05,893
Speaker 3: that there was. Early he had been he would be

2287
01:47:05,933 --> 01:47:10,572
Speaker 3: in a spectacularly good looking man bag in Kenny Rogers.

2288
01:47:11,133 --> 01:47:13,653
Speaker 20: I think the end of his life, frankly.

2289
01:47:14,812 --> 01:47:19,253
Speaker 3: Man, he had a beautiful, beautifully here suit man, wasn't he?

2290
01:47:19,293 --> 01:47:20,412
Speaker 3: But by the end of his life he had a

2291
01:47:20,452 --> 01:47:22,053
Speaker 3: bit of press plastic surgery. I think he had too

2292
01:47:22,133 --> 01:47:25,133
Speaker 3: much and he was almost unrecognizable. But Beck in the seventies,

2293
01:47:25,532 --> 01:47:28,012
Speaker 3: back in the seventies, spectacular.

2294
01:47:27,412 --> 01:47:30,013
Speaker 2: How good head swegger. Yeah, that's a great story. Thank

2295
01:47:30,053 --> 01:47:31,213
Speaker 2: you have von Ellen?

2296
01:47:31,692 --> 01:47:33,972
Speaker 7: How are you a good man?

2297
01:47:34,452 --> 01:47:36,892
Speaker 3: You met Bill Gates? Where was that? It wasn't on

2298
01:47:36,933 --> 01:47:37,652
Speaker 3: Epstein Island?

2299
01:47:37,692 --> 01:47:39,293
Speaker 24: Was it funny?

2300
01:47:39,372 --> 01:47:39,692
Speaker 7: Sorry?

2301
01:47:39,732 --> 01:47:43,572
Speaker 24: No, carric Cliffs, So I was there's thirty noughties.

2302
01:47:43,253 --> 01:47:43,692
Speaker 11: I think it was.

2303
01:47:44,612 --> 01:47:46,732
Speaker 24: I had the golfing quick end of my life, you know,

2304
01:47:46,893 --> 01:47:49,132
Speaker 24: spent the big bucks wed stay at the carric Cliffs

2305
01:47:49,612 --> 01:47:52,093
Speaker 24: and we checked out. That's we checked out. We were

2306
01:47:52,093 --> 01:47:54,452
Speaker 24: just walking out of the bobby. This guy walked towards

2307
01:47:54,492 --> 01:47:56,333
Speaker 24: me and I looked at him, and I looked at

2308
01:47:56,412 --> 01:48:01,213
Speaker 24: him twice, and I turned back to the managers at

2309
01:48:01,213 --> 01:48:03,972
Speaker 24: the hotel who was standing there. I said, I must

2310
01:48:04,053 --> 01:48:05,812
Speaker 24: be going crazy, But that guy looks a lot like

2311
01:48:05,933 --> 01:48:11,253
Speaker 24: Bill Gates doesn't, and she would neither convert nor deny

2312
01:48:11,293 --> 01:48:13,093
Speaker 24: and anyway, so we drove off with my wife and

2313
01:48:13,213 --> 01:48:15,813
Speaker 24: I tune. I said, this might be our lifetime opportunity

2314
01:48:16,173 --> 01:48:18,532
Speaker 24: to meet the wealthiest man in the world. So we

2315
01:48:18,612 --> 01:48:20,412
Speaker 24: turned the car around and went and booked another two

2316
01:48:20,532 --> 01:48:24,372
Speaker 24: nights and so the next k. Because it's a really

2317
01:48:24,412 --> 01:48:27,812
Speaker 24: expensive golf course, I was became golf on my own,

2318
01:48:27,933 --> 01:48:30,492
Speaker 24: and I was literally buzzing around the course doing eighteen

2319
01:48:30,492 --> 01:48:32,652
Speaker 24: holes about every one and a half hours in a second.

2320
01:48:33,612 --> 01:48:35,093
Speaker 15: And I went flying.

2321
01:48:34,732 --> 01:48:39,372
Speaker 24: Past the clubhouse to do it eighteen and all of

2322
01:48:39,412 --> 01:48:42,572
Speaker 24: a sudden, as I'm going down the first the first hole,

2323
01:48:43,133 --> 01:48:45,812
Speaker 24: the club pro comes flying up behind me in his

2324
01:48:45,893 --> 01:48:48,892
Speaker 24: golf cart and say, oh, hey, I saw you going

2325
01:48:48,933 --> 01:48:51,692
Speaker 24: down and there I have that I would you be

2326
01:48:51,732 --> 01:48:53,732
Speaker 24: interested in me giving you a few tips and lesson

2327
01:48:54,372 --> 01:48:57,053
Speaker 24: And I said, oh, yeah, that'll be cool, and so

2328
01:48:57,893 --> 01:48:59,933
Speaker 24: he came and he started to give me tips and

2329
01:49:00,013 --> 01:49:02,053
Speaker 24: lessons and gave me more balls and play, and he

2330
01:49:02,173 --> 01:49:05,412
Speaker 24: slowed me right down. And I realized as I was

2331
01:49:05,452 --> 01:49:07,612
Speaker 24: coming up the eighteenth that Bella and Melinda were playing

2332
01:49:07,612 --> 01:49:09,973
Speaker 24: ahead of me. And the last thing they wanted was

2333
01:49:10,053 --> 01:49:12,892
Speaker 24: me to be heading up on them, so that bush

2334
01:49:12,933 --> 01:49:15,012
Speaker 24: out and slowed me down so I wouldn't brush into.

2335
01:49:14,853 --> 01:49:16,333
Speaker 2: Them dirty anyway.

2336
01:49:16,772 --> 01:49:19,452
Speaker 3: Imagine, I imagine you catch up on Bill Gates pretty

2337
01:49:19,492 --> 01:49:22,093
Speaker 3: Quick's probably got a fifty four handicap.

2338
01:49:23,412 --> 01:49:25,492
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was a player.

2339
01:49:28,532 --> 01:49:30,652
Speaker 24: Anyway. But anyway, it was quite funny because then wegan

2340
01:49:30,732 --> 01:49:33,493
Speaker 24: to get our bags and go back up the pathway

2341
01:49:33,572 --> 01:49:36,133
Speaker 24: to get to the car the second time, and he's

2342
01:49:36,133 --> 01:49:39,093
Speaker 24: coming down in a golf cart out of the way

2343
01:49:39,572 --> 01:49:42,253
Speaker 24: with Belinda, and they've been shown to their room. And

2344
01:49:42,293 --> 01:49:45,652
Speaker 24: I looked at him and I and I said to myself,

2345
01:49:46,333 --> 01:49:48,692
Speaker 24: your your Bill Gates. And he's looking at me with

2346
01:49:48,732 --> 01:49:52,133
Speaker 24: that little enigmatic smile on his face saying, yeah, you

2347
01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:54,772
Speaker 24: know who I am, don't you. And that was my

2348
01:49:54,933 --> 01:49:55,932
Speaker 24: meeting Bill Gates.

2349
01:49:56,093 --> 01:49:56,932
Speaker 3: Oh how good.

2350
01:49:57,652 --> 01:50:00,133
Speaker 2: That's dedication, Allen, you know, an extra two nights and

2351
01:50:00,133 --> 01:50:03,333
Speaker 2: then whipping around the golf course every hour. Well done.

2352
01:50:04,492 --> 01:50:06,452
Speaker 24: We never got that dinner with them because we thought

2353
01:50:07,013 --> 01:50:10,013
Speaker 24: a carrict question Edwin's gonna the same dining and then

2354
01:50:10,333 --> 01:50:11,772
Speaker 24: he was off in a little room.

2355
01:50:11,572 --> 01:50:12,053
Speaker 11: On his own.

2356
01:50:12,133 --> 01:50:15,412
Speaker 24: We didn't really have dinner with expensive to night.

2357
01:50:17,093 --> 01:50:21,692
Speaker 3: Still cool story are you going to Metallica? Allen, I'm sorry,

2358
01:50:21,772 --> 01:50:22,972
Speaker 3: are you going to Metallica tonight?

2359
01:50:24,933 --> 01:50:25,173
Speaker 2: Mate?

2360
01:50:25,253 --> 01:50:28,212
Speaker 24: I'm I don't even know where they're playing, to be honest.

2361
01:50:28,133 --> 01:50:29,612
Speaker 2: All right, there you go.

2362
01:50:30,013 --> 01:50:30,412
Speaker 6: You're enough.

2363
01:50:30,692 --> 01:50:32,892
Speaker 3: People are paying a lot of money for a celebrity

2364
01:50:32,933 --> 01:50:34,892
Speaker 3: meet and greet with Metallica.

2365
01:50:35,173 --> 01:50:37,852
Speaker 24: Oh really, I guess.

2366
01:50:39,412 --> 01:50:39,652
Speaker 7: Folks.

2367
01:50:39,933 --> 01:50:41,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're a Bill Gates person, not a James

2368
01:50:42,013 --> 01:50:44,093
Speaker 3: Hitfield person. He thanks for your cool, great story, and

2369
01:50:44,133 --> 01:50:45,013
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

2370
01:50:45,173 --> 01:50:49,053
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Right, we'll play some messages, but

2371
01:50:49,053 --> 01:50:51,293
Speaker 2: we've got plenty of ticks to get to. We might

2372
01:50:51,333 --> 01:50:54,173
Speaker 2: get a few calls as well. It is nine minutes

2373
01:50:54,173 --> 01:50:54,772
Speaker 2: to fall back in the.

2374
01:50:56,133 --> 01:51:00,092
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

2375
01:51:00,093 --> 01:51:00,612
Speaker 1: in between.

2376
01:51:00,812 --> 01:51:03,732
Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons, used talks.

2377
01:51:03,732 --> 01:51:06,812
Speaker 2: It'd be, it'd be. It is six to four.

2378
01:51:07,772 --> 01:51:09,652
Speaker 3: I told my ordered to write down her goals. She

2379
01:51:09,692 --> 01:51:11,892
Speaker 3: had a Taylor Swift diary and wrote in it one

2380
01:51:11,973 --> 01:51:14,412
Speaker 3: day this will be signed by Taylor. A couple of

2381
01:51:14,532 --> 01:51:16,173
Speaker 3: years later, she got picked out of the crowd and

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Speaker 3: got a backstage meet and greet photos, et cetera, and

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Speaker 3: got her diary signed. Chris, what a fantastic story. Mark,

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Speaker 3: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 23: Hi body, great show by the way, Yeah, got to

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Speaker 23: make this quick. Ye got a chance to meet the

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Speaker 23: guys at a White Snake, not the full White Snake,

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Speaker 23: but Bernie Marsden, Ricky Moody and John Lord great keybody

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Speaker 23: st out of Deep Purple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go again.

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Speaker 23: And that was used to playing at a covered band

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Speaker 23: and we've got chance to support them, which is quite good.

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Speaker 23: Great guys, teetotal all of them right, yes, and then

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Speaker 23: our thinger got a chance to gobe.

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Speaker 11: To Sweden and do a couple of gigs with them

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Speaker 11: as well, so that was quite good for him.

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Speaker 2: What a life mate, How bloody awesome?

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Speaker 3: Yeah call Mark This Texas has met Clint Clint Eastwood

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Speaker 3: trout fishing Matchwiker River showed him where the big fish

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Speaker 3: were upset as guide.

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Speaker 2: No end o cool Clint Eastwood and.

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01:52:20,333 --> 01:52:22,652
Speaker 3: Sexer says I met Jim Boulder at the Urinal in

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Speaker 3: New Plymouth Airport. Anyea, Jim Hicky's cafe.

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Speaker 2: That is a claim to fame. That one is great.

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01:52:29,772 --> 01:52:30,612
Speaker 2: That's a big one.

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Speaker 15: All right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for everyone for listening to the show.

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Speaker 2: Love Dad chats today. As always, the podcast will be

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01:52:37,173 --> 01:52:38,732
Speaker 2: up really soon. Is here the back? Are we still

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01:52:38,772 --> 01:52:43,173
Speaker 2: with Ryan? Heather is back? Heather is back, the Great

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Speaker 2: and Powerful Heather Douples.

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Speaker 3: The Eleanor's up next. But right now, Tyler, why would

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Speaker 3: I be playing this song from Metallica?

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Speaker 2: Why would you be playing that massive concert tonight? You're

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01:52:51,772 --> 01:52:54,053
Speaker 2: going along as well as it seems like half of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand going to be an awesome concert. Go well, mate,

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Speaker 2: songs I'm most looking forward to if no one cares

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01:52:58,812 --> 01:52:59,852
Speaker 2: for whom the bell tolls?

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Speaker 3: I thought about that Master of Puppets. Yes, what else?

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Speaker 2: One? One's a huge, one, massive opera. If the other

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Speaker 2: destroyers always good life? Yeah, I'll mate see it at

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Speaker 2: even Park tonight. If you're going along, enjoy that until

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Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Give him a taste of Kiwi from Tyler and you

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Speaker 3: seem busy?

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Speaker 6: Will let you go?

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