1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZB. 3 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:15,267 Speaker 2: All Whites coach Darren Baisley is with us out of Washington, 4 00:00:15,347 --> 00:00:17,187 Speaker 2: d C. Where he was present this morning to see 5 00:00:17,187 --> 00:00:20,467 Speaker 2: the draw play out. What do you make of it? Bays, Iran, 6 00:00:20,667 --> 00:00:24,107 Speaker 2: Egypt and Belgium. How do you stack that up as 7 00:00:24,147 --> 00:00:25,667 Speaker 2: a group for the All Whites next year? 8 00:00:26,827 --> 00:00:28,107 Speaker 3: I think I think it's a good group. 9 00:00:28,187 --> 00:00:30,347 Speaker 4: You know, we knew coming into it, you know that 10 00:00:30,627 --> 00:00:32,627 Speaker 4: any group was going to be challenging. You know, they're 11 00:00:32,627 --> 00:00:35,147 Speaker 4: all good teams there, but I think you look across 12 00:00:35,147 --> 00:00:36,827 Speaker 4: at some of the other groups or when we got 13 00:00:36,867 --> 00:00:39,027 Speaker 4: to the pot, you know, some of the other groups 14 00:00:39,067 --> 00:00:41,987 Speaker 4: were probably a little bit tougher, you know, but we 15 00:00:42,067 --> 00:00:43,187 Speaker 4: know it's going to be a challenge there. 16 00:00:43,347 --> 00:00:43,947 Speaker 3: They're good teams. 17 00:00:43,947 --> 00:00:45,707 Speaker 4: They're all good teams, and we had to wait till 18 00:00:45,747 --> 00:00:48,747 Speaker 4: the very last ball coming out to eventually find out 19 00:00:48,747 --> 00:00:50,347 Speaker 4: where we were going to be, which is they made 20 00:00:50,387 --> 00:00:50,747 Speaker 4: us wait. 21 00:00:51,307 --> 00:00:53,507 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's good. It's a good group, exciting group. 22 00:00:53,947 --> 00:00:54,387 Speaker 5: As you say. 23 00:00:54,387 --> 00:00:57,067 Speaker 2: The way the draw played out, the groups are filled 24 00:00:57,067 --> 00:00:59,347 Speaker 2: from Pot one, two and three and then down to 25 00:00:59,347 --> 00:01:01,867 Speaker 2: Pop four, where New Zealand was So did you look 26 00:01:01,867 --> 00:01:05,067 Speaker 2: across the makeup of the groups after three pots were emptied, 27 00:01:05,107 --> 00:01:07,507 Speaker 2: and did you see one liked and onesie that will 28 00:01:07,627 --> 00:01:07,987 Speaker 2: shove us. 29 00:01:08,027 --> 00:01:09,307 Speaker 5: I'm not sure we want to be in there. 30 00:01:10,387 --> 00:01:12,427 Speaker 4: There was definitely a couple of there was a couple 31 00:01:12,427 --> 00:01:15,627 Speaker 4: of really tough groups, yeah, really really tough groups, and 32 00:01:15,787 --> 00:01:17,387 Speaker 4: a couple of groups go that would be a good one. 33 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:19,067 Speaker 4: That would be a good one. And you know, I 34 00:01:19,067 --> 00:01:21,227 Speaker 4: think we ended up in I suppose we end up there. 35 00:01:21,227 --> 00:01:23,627 Speaker 4: We're supposed to be And this is what the challenge 36 00:01:23,627 --> 00:01:25,667 Speaker 4: we now face. You know, we've got one of the 37 00:01:25,667 --> 00:01:28,147 Speaker 4: big teams, but you know, potentially they're not you know, 38 00:01:28,187 --> 00:01:29,867 Speaker 4: the top three or four in the world. You know, 39 00:01:29,907 --> 00:01:35,267 Speaker 4: we didn't get Argentine in Brazil or Spain, Germany, England, France, 40 00:01:35,347 --> 00:01:37,107 Speaker 4: you know, you know, so we've we've got Belgium and 41 00:01:37,107 --> 00:01:39,947 Speaker 4: they're very good, you know. And then the Pop two 42 00:01:39,947 --> 00:01:43,387 Speaker 4: and Pot three teams. We missed common Ball, so we 43 00:01:43,427 --> 00:01:45,907 Speaker 4: didn't get a South American team and we did only 44 00:01:45,947 --> 00:01:48,667 Speaker 4: got one ua FA team, So that was probably if 45 00:01:48,667 --> 00:01:50,267 Speaker 4: you if you could have asked me for warhand, what 46 00:01:50,307 --> 00:01:52,067 Speaker 4: do you not want? It would have been a Common 47 00:01:52,107 --> 00:01:54,427 Speaker 4: Ball team and two U AA teams because that could happen, 48 00:01:54,467 --> 00:01:57,027 Speaker 4: and I think some of those some of those groups 49 00:01:57,067 --> 00:01:58,187 Speaker 4: are probably a little bit tougher. 50 00:01:58,547 --> 00:02:00,827 Speaker 2: So when you look at the three matches you have 51 00:02:00,947 --> 00:02:03,067 Speaker 2: to play, and I guess you're ranked them by Pot 52 00:02:03,107 --> 00:02:05,187 Speaker 2: more than anything, don't you. Belgium or and Pot one, 53 00:02:05,267 --> 00:02:07,547 Speaker 2: I Rama and Pot two, and Egypt were on Pot three, 54 00:02:07,547 --> 00:02:09,507 Speaker 2: and that fits with the rankings at the moment. So 55 00:02:09,587 --> 00:02:13,667 Speaker 2: do you naturally target the game against Egypt, for example, 56 00:02:13,667 --> 00:02:16,547 Speaker 2: as the one which is most winnable or or is 57 00:02:16,587 --> 00:02:17,947 Speaker 2: that not your mindset going in? 58 00:02:19,267 --> 00:02:21,627 Speaker 4: I mean we'll go into every game trying to win 59 00:02:21,707 --> 00:02:24,347 Speaker 4: that game, you know, whether it's in Belgium, around or Egypt. 60 00:02:24,547 --> 00:02:26,427 Speaker 4: I think they're all going to be slightly different games, 61 00:02:26,467 --> 00:02:29,107 Speaker 4: different challenges. But you know, we've got a lot of 62 00:02:29,147 --> 00:02:31,267 Speaker 4: time now to do a lot of work on the 63 00:02:31,307 --> 00:02:34,307 Speaker 4: opposition and you know, find all their strengths and weaknesses 64 00:02:34,427 --> 00:02:36,707 Speaker 4: and who the players are and everything. So you know, 65 00:02:36,747 --> 00:02:38,507 Speaker 4: we've got a bit of time to ensure that we're 66 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:40,187 Speaker 4: as planned and prepared as. 67 00:02:40,067 --> 00:02:40,507 Speaker 3: We can be. 68 00:02:40,787 --> 00:02:43,227 Speaker 2: And as far as the schedule is concerned, you don't 69 00:02:43,227 --> 00:02:45,067 Speaker 2: know the venues ship, but you do know the order. 70 00:02:45,147 --> 00:02:45,507 Speaker 2: Is that right? 71 00:02:45,507 --> 00:02:47,747 Speaker 5: Will it be I run Egypt Belgium. Is that the 72 00:02:48,747 --> 00:02:49,787 Speaker 5: order of the game. 73 00:02:49,867 --> 00:02:52,507 Speaker 4: I think, as far as I know, that's right, I 74 00:02:52,507 --> 00:02:54,427 Speaker 4: think you're right with that. And we know that we're 75 00:02:54,427 --> 00:02:58,227 Speaker 4: going to be either La Seattle or Vancouver as our basis. 76 00:02:58,267 --> 00:03:00,587 Speaker 4: We don't know the exact one yet, but yeah, I 77 00:03:00,627 --> 00:03:03,627 Speaker 4: think it's really good location for us as well. Obviously 78 00:03:03,627 --> 00:03:07,347 Speaker 4: direct flights from New Zealand, which is great into and Vancouver, 79 00:03:07,907 --> 00:03:09,827 Speaker 4: so that's a real bonus. I think it makes things 80 00:03:09,867 --> 00:03:13,627 Speaker 4: a little bit easier for fans and potentially the climates 81 00:03:13,627 --> 00:03:15,667 Speaker 4: in those sort of three areas. You know, I think 82 00:03:15,707 --> 00:03:18,027 Speaker 4: Mexico would have been a tough, tough ask. You know, 83 00:03:18,067 --> 00:03:20,587 Speaker 4: going there would have made that slightly more harder with 84 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:23,547 Speaker 4: altitude and heat some of the southern states. And also 85 00:03:23,627 --> 00:03:26,267 Speaker 4: you know, when you look at Atlanta and Houston, Dallas, 86 00:03:26,547 --> 00:03:28,867 Speaker 4: you know that that's really difficult to train and play 87 00:03:28,907 --> 00:03:31,107 Speaker 4: in those sort of areas. So yeah, and we may 88 00:03:31,147 --> 00:03:34,347 Speaker 4: have got West Coast maybe maybe suit us a little 89 00:03:34,387 --> 00:03:34,747 Speaker 4: bit more. 90 00:03:34,907 --> 00:03:37,187 Speaker 2: Here and up till now. I mean, you're qualified in 91 00:03:37,227 --> 00:03:39,667 Speaker 2: March Bays. We're in December now, so you've known you're going, 92 00:03:39,747 --> 00:03:41,907 Speaker 2: but the state's been in the diary is Okay, we're 93 00:03:41,947 --> 00:03:44,307 Speaker 2: going to find out who we play. Have you been 94 00:03:44,347 --> 00:03:47,387 Speaker 2: able to plan in any way, any significant way up 95 00:03:47,427 --> 00:03:50,467 Speaker 2: till now or did you really have to wait until 96 00:03:50,507 --> 00:03:54,507 Speaker 2: those balls came out today before you can really start strategizing. 97 00:03:55,107 --> 00:03:56,867 Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's so random. 98 00:03:56,867 --> 00:03:59,907 Speaker 4: There were so many different equations that could have been there, 99 00:03:59,987 --> 00:04:02,467 Speaker 4: could be there, could be there. I think the probabilities 100 00:04:02,507 --> 00:04:06,267 Speaker 4: were like, yeah, endless of huge feen so we have 101 00:04:06,427 --> 00:04:08,467 Speaker 4: somebody looking at it. But yeah, I think it was 102 00:04:08,907 --> 00:04:11,947 Speaker 4: you draws are pretty random. I think if you did 103 00:04:11,987 --> 00:04:14,187 Speaker 4: the simulator, you did that a number of times, we 104 00:04:14,227 --> 00:04:15,307 Speaker 4: always got a different group. 105 00:04:16,227 --> 00:04:19,547 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a case of let's wait till. 106 00:04:19,387 --> 00:04:21,867 Speaker 4: The last name coming out of the last ball coming 107 00:04:21,867 --> 00:04:24,667 Speaker 4: out of the pot for us to know exactly we're 108 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:27,267 Speaker 4: even though I think with two balls left we sort 109 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:29,107 Speaker 4: of knew, okay, they can't go there they so we're 110 00:04:29,147 --> 00:04:30,467 Speaker 4: going to be in that pot. So we sort of 111 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:33,587 Speaker 4: did know your two balls out, But yeah, I kept 112 00:04:33,627 --> 00:04:36,307 Speaker 4: waiting for our name to come out earlier, earlier, but no, 113 00:04:36,947 --> 00:04:37,667 Speaker 4: right till the end. 114 00:04:37,907 --> 00:04:38,547 Speaker 5: Now we know that. 115 00:04:38,707 --> 00:04:40,387 Speaker 2: Now we know the draw, I can ask you about 116 00:04:40,427 --> 00:04:42,947 Speaker 2: you know, ideals and things like that. Did any part 117 00:04:42,987 --> 00:04:45,787 Speaker 2: of you, given you your background, kind of hope that 118 00:04:45,827 --> 00:04:47,947 Speaker 2: England and New Zealand might be in the same group. 119 00:04:49,627 --> 00:04:50,427 Speaker 3: Not really. 120 00:04:50,467 --> 00:04:52,107 Speaker 4: I mean, we knew we were going to get one 121 00:04:52,107 --> 00:04:57,067 Speaker 4: of the big teams, you know, Brazil, Argentina, England, France, Germany, Spain, 122 00:04:57,587 --> 00:04:59,747 Speaker 4: Portugal in there as well, and we got Belgium, So 123 00:04:59,787 --> 00:05:03,347 Speaker 4: I didn't really have a preference. I suppose you're always 124 00:05:03,347 --> 00:05:06,907 Speaker 4: looking for, you know, the group that we can get 125 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:09,587 Speaker 4: that gives us the best chance to get results. You know, 126 00:05:09,587 --> 00:05:13,347 Speaker 4: I suppose realistically, you know, the bigger the team in, 127 00:05:13,467 --> 00:05:15,947 Speaker 4: the harder that becomes. So you know, I think they're 128 00:05:15,947 --> 00:05:18,147 Speaker 4: all going to be challenging. You know, we are the 129 00:05:18,187 --> 00:05:21,147 Speaker 4: lowest ranked team in the tournament, so they're probably looking 130 00:05:21,187 --> 00:05:23,907 Speaker 4: at us. But I think we also know and the 131 00:05:23,907 --> 00:05:25,827 Speaker 4: players know that on our day we're a very good 132 00:05:25,867 --> 00:05:28,707 Speaker 4: team and we can post challenges for these other teams. 133 00:05:29,187 --> 00:05:33,027 Speaker 5: Any curious ub Builgian, Egyptian or Iranian media been on 134 00:05:33,147 --> 00:05:35,707 Speaker 5: to you since you were drawn with them. 135 00:05:36,507 --> 00:05:38,587 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've done a few. Yeah, it's been pretty crazy 136 00:05:38,627 --> 00:05:41,067 Speaker 4: since the draw, and you know, so many media here. 137 00:05:41,147 --> 00:05:43,267 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's a real frenzy. And you know, 138 00:05:43,307 --> 00:05:45,747 Speaker 4: we did we did quite a few different different places 139 00:05:46,067 --> 00:05:48,227 Speaker 4: media wise, So that's been cool, you know. 140 00:05:48,747 --> 00:05:51,467 Speaker 2: And they don't do anything small in the United States, 141 00:05:51,467 --> 00:05:54,147 Speaker 2: do they. Base You know, the walls didn't start coming 142 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:56,187 Speaker 2: out to about ninety minutes after the thing had started 143 00:05:56,227 --> 00:05:59,707 Speaker 2: with Page and Tree. But Andrea Bcelli, I know you're 144 00:05:59,707 --> 00:06:01,027 Speaker 2: a big fan. That would have been quite cool to 145 00:06:01,067 --> 00:06:03,947 Speaker 2: see him open it. 146 00:06:02,867 --> 00:06:06,747 Speaker 3: So open with him was amazing. There's such a great voice. Yeah, 147 00:06:06,787 --> 00:06:07,707 Speaker 3: it was. It was crazy. 148 00:06:07,747 --> 00:06:10,147 Speaker 4: And we were quite close to the front, you know, 149 00:06:10,147 --> 00:06:13,427 Speaker 4: where he was obviously performing, So that was calling. Not 150 00:06:13,547 --> 00:06:17,147 Speaker 4: really the sort of thing you expect a football draw 151 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:20,867 Speaker 4: to have these high profile performers, you know, right in 152 00:06:20,867 --> 00:06:23,187 Speaker 4: front of you, and we had Robbie Williams and Nicole 153 00:06:23,187 --> 00:06:26,347 Speaker 4: Scherzinger and Lauren Hill came on, and you've got Kevin 154 00:06:26,387 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 4: Hart there. We've had to clumb and yeah, it was 155 00:06:29,467 --> 00:06:31,347 Speaker 4: it was. It was quite quite crazy. 156 00:06:31,787 --> 00:06:34,627 Speaker 2: All right, Well, now you can start planning. We know 157 00:06:34,707 --> 00:06:36,787 Speaker 2: that you're white to be home in March for games 158 00:06:36,787 --> 00:06:38,747 Speaker 2: and a FIFA series. We wait to see who those 159 00:06:38,787 --> 00:06:41,707 Speaker 2: opponents are. But what are the most important things now 160 00:06:41,747 --> 00:06:44,147 Speaker 2: for you and your coaching team and your players between 161 00:06:44,187 --> 00:06:46,907 Speaker 2: now and when you do hop on the plane to 162 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:48,467 Speaker 2: get to the United States next year. 163 00:06:49,347 --> 00:06:51,907 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, competition's heating up for players. 164 00:06:52,707 --> 00:06:55,307 Speaker 4: What we need, what we need is everybody fit and 165 00:06:55,347 --> 00:06:57,027 Speaker 4: available when we get to the World Cup. You know, 166 00:06:57,067 --> 00:06:59,587 Speaker 4: we've we've built some depth over the last couple of 167 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:02,787 Speaker 4: years with different positions, but we know for us to 168 00:07:02,827 --> 00:07:05,427 Speaker 4: be at our best, we need all of our players 169 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:07,867 Speaker 4: available and all of our players fully fit. 170 00:07:08,027 --> 00:07:08,187 Speaker 3: You know. 171 00:07:09,187 --> 00:07:11,307 Speaker 4: The last few windows, you know, we've we've had players 172 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:13,947 Speaker 4: missing Chris Word, Luby, you know, we miss Joe Bow 173 00:07:14,027 --> 00:07:16,747 Speaker 4: and a couple of the couple of the games, and 174 00:07:16,787 --> 00:07:18,627 Speaker 4: so we need everybody available. 175 00:07:19,867 --> 00:07:22,027 Speaker 2: Exciting time space. You know who you're playing there, you 176 00:07:22,027 --> 00:07:23,867 Speaker 2: know where you're going to be based. Tomorrow we'll find 177 00:07:23,907 --> 00:07:27,267 Speaker 2: out the exact locations of these matches. Thanks for joining us. 178 00:07:27,267 --> 00:07:30,307 Speaker 2: I know you've had a busy old day there in Washington, 179 00:07:30,387 --> 00:07:30,667 Speaker 2: d C. 180 00:07:30,827 --> 00:07:32,187 Speaker 5: Travel safe. We'll see you back home. 181 00:07:32,747 --> 00:07:34,787 Speaker 3: This bit cold here as well, we've had about snow 182 00:07:34,827 --> 00:07:35,307 Speaker 3: this morning. 183 00:07:36,667 --> 00:07:38,587 Speaker 2: Well it's nice and fine in Auckland, I can tell 184 00:07:38,587 --> 00:07:40,867 Speaker 2: you for the Derby today, So looking forward. 185 00:07:40,627 --> 00:07:42,707 Speaker 3: To lovely Yeah, yeah, I'm going to try and catch 186 00:07:42,707 --> 00:07:44,187 Speaker 3: that later. 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