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Speaker 3: I'll get a James mconey, how are you hey, g
Speaker 3: Lane and good thanks, you know, good to be back
Speaker 3: in here. I noticed that Mania is in the Middle East. Yes,
Speaker 3: he's with one place where you're not supposed to be
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: He's with his Habibi's and I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: seen him in his in his dish dash, which is
Speaker 1: the traditional Emarati white cloak and also the head dress
Speaker 1: as well. Of he's been in Oman, and he did
Speaker 1: say the last time he was in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: they'd come up and speak Arabic to him and Hemibi
Speaker 1: ah halak Abibi and he'd be like, ah New Zealand
Speaker 1: because he looks so he looks like he belongs.
Speaker 3: What does habibi mean? Friend? Ah? I love? How are
Speaker 3: you Bibi? You're good? Gel Ain't you just Arabic down line?
Speaker 3: I lived here for a while.
Speaker 1: I lived there, Sallysla all that kind of carry out.
Speaker 3: Well, most of when you go to a new place,
Speaker 3: of the things that you absorb, locations of the nearest pub, yes,
Speaker 3: and then whatever liquids you're allowed to consume. Yeah, well
Speaker 3: that was pretty easy.
Speaker 1: In the Middle East, it's basically every hotel.
Speaker 3: Are because they don't actually have pubs. There's no drinking
Speaker 3: his band, except they turn a blind eye. Is that right?
Speaker 1: Well, hotels basically the hotels are like a giant mall
Speaker 1: of bars. So you go in and there's a hotel bar,
Speaker 1: but then there's a rooftop bar, and then in the
Speaker 1: basement there's an Irish bar, and then on the beach
Speaker 1: there's a beach bar, and then they have a nightclub
Speaker 1: on the top floor as well. So every hotel in
Speaker 1: the Middle East has about five bars in it, so
Speaker 1: you can have a whole night in one hotel and
Speaker 1: just go from bar to bar. So that's how they
Speaker 1: get around it. Because it's illegal to be drunk in
Speaker 1: public intoxicated in public.
Speaker 3: That's why they don't do any breath testing.
Speaker 1: This is dangerous for Westerners as well because they don't
Speaker 1: have breath testing because you shouldn't actually be drinking. So yeah,
Speaker 1: by theory, they shouldn't be so what happens is if
Speaker 1: you crash and you've been you're drunk, you're fucked, You're
Speaker 1: pretty much you're done. Yeah, so you run for the
Speaker 1: hills at that stage, maybe just get a taxi straight to.
Speaker 3: The airport, the Emirates economy. Yeah, to the river, to
Speaker 3: the bottom of the earth.
Speaker 1: James McConney, have you ever been invited to one of
Speaker 1: Jeremy Wells's white parties?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not wide enough clearly who kids there not
Speaker 3: for that Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't been invited either, but rumor is that he has.
Speaker 1: He took a franchise of P Diddy's white parties and
Speaker 1: he's been holding them in New Zealand for years.
Speaker 3: Well, I know that he loves lube. Yeah. So I
Speaker 3: mean when I as soon as they said the baby
Speaker 3: oil thing, I thought, oh, Jerry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I will. Neither of us been invited,
Speaker 1: so maybe we'll have to get Jeremy on to discuss
Speaker 1: as white parties.
Speaker 3: Can I just say that I thought that Dinner on
Speaker 3: Blanc whatever it was called, I thought that was one
Speaker 3: of the winkiest things ever, the pop up pop up
Speaker 3: dinners and everyone's wearing white and I'm like I would totally.
Speaker 3: I'll go down there in my cricket creams pants. So
Speaker 3: there's no way I'm not wearing white pants. I'm not
Speaker 3: going out splashing out on a pair of white pants.
Speaker 3: Does anyone want to see my VPL down on the waterfront, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not on the Viadact VPL on the Viadact.
Speaker 1: I think that the greatest one of those white parties
Speaker 1: or those dinner lan which was basically you went no no.
Speaker 1: I saw pictures from it, which is just a disguised
Speaker 1: P Diddy party. Really just make it French and it's okay,
Speaker 1: but they they pop up. Was on the field at
Speaker 1: Eating Park.
Speaker 3: I'm so if it was a bit lame, yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: it's the whole thing is I think it's died of
Speaker 3: death now. It was just a little fad, but I
Speaker 3: preferred dinner on noir. Yeah exactly. Yeah, get you your
Speaker 3: black puff are out, which is what the still uniforms,
Speaker 3: because you could get everyone's probably got a black shirt
Speaker 3: of some kind, right, like yeah, I think in other nations,
Speaker 3: I probably think, oh no, maybe that they wouldn't even
Speaker 3: have that, But Kiwis have definitely got black in the wardrobe.
Speaker 1: We'll just check out a normal next game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you will. You've got them your merch. You've
Speaker 3: got a black Caps top on right now, and then
Speaker 3: so with your any national team, you've got your merch
Speaker 3: and then you've got your black puffer yep. And then
Speaker 3: generally if you've if you're a funeral goer, yeah, you'll
Speaker 3: have especially if you're Maldy Adam will back me up
Speaker 3: on this, you'll have a black shirt because you're not
Speaker 3: always just wearing the jacket. But it is you have
Speaker 3: to wear black. You have to, is there?
Speaker 1: I mean, per capita, are we the biggest owners of
Speaker 1: black puffer jackets in the world.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of people won't necessarily
Speaker 3: buy black straight away, whereas we look at it and
Speaker 3: go yes, yeah, yeah, okay, I am this is me.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a kiwi. I'm a kiwi. This I live
Speaker 3: in a to it or I'm wearing black.
Speaker 1: But even anything above top or for example, you probably
Speaker 1: go for the vest, the puffer vest as opposed to
Speaker 1: the full puffer jacket.
Speaker 3: Ohither you're talking the alpha dad puffers. I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I'm talking finance bro kind of, but finance bro jackets
Speaker 1: are a bit thinner. They're the thinner puffer jacket. They're
Speaker 1: the kind of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the medium skinny, skinny piping or the skinny horizontal lines,
Speaker 3: skinny stitching. Yeah, I know that's that means you're not
Speaker 3: going full puffa. I've been sponsored by mac Packet Craig
Speaker 3: as Weld, so I've seen the fuller array of puffers. Yes,
Speaker 3: and I've I've got a Finance bro Alpha Dad puffery
Speaker 3: little and it's it does. It is quite nice actually,
Speaker 3: but then you when you're out there in a vest,
Speaker 3: you do realize that you are you.
Speaker 1: Look a bit of a dick.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, speaking of I've got my black Caps top on.
Speaker 1: I should probably have my black Caps supporters support grip
Speaker 1: tissued on Big News this morning James mcconey, Oh Ship,
Speaker 1: Big News. Tim Soudy has zion from the Test captaincy
Speaker 1: at the end of the Shrilankan tour just before they
Speaker 1: fly out to India, and Tom Latham has been announced
Speaker 1: as the new captain.
Speaker 3: Saw me, Tom Latham, He's been circling for a while.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you called it years ago when he
Speaker 1: was circling around Kan Williamson late at night when you
Speaker 1: set that set, that regrettable set that bombshell out on Twitter.
Speaker 3: No one takes my text seriously one text, they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: jump on this, and I mean, yeah, I had heard something.
Speaker 3: But do you know what in our line of work,
Speaker 3: g Lane, I think you know, because we're not right
Speaker 3: there in the mainstream media, we hold on to a
Speaker 3: lot more bombshells. Yes, I know, probably stories that will
Speaker 3: maybe come out next week. But I'm not going to
Speaker 3: break your breaking news on Craig as well, because no
Speaker 3: one goes a shit. It's like you're there to entertain us.
Speaker 3: We don't care about your scoops. So whereas that was
Speaker 3: the one time where I went, oh, this sounds a
Speaker 3: bit like a Muppet question for you, James mcconey, this
Speaker 3: happened in Sri Lanka. Do you think it happened in
Speaker 3: Gaul before they flew out to India? Do you think
Speaker 3: it happened in the exact same hotel room as the
Speaker 3: Ross Taylor sacking. Oh wow, yes, exactly, I know what
Speaker 3: you're talking about. Yeah, when the shafting, Yeah, as something
Speaker 3: in the air, Yeah, well exactly, that's the thing. Never
Speaker 3: go well, this is a weird thing isn't it. I
Speaker 3: think Tim, just given his age, there's going to be
Speaker 3: a replacement happening at some point. I'm thinking it was
Speaker 3: going to be the end of the summer. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: It was going to be really it was going to
Speaker 3: happen anyway. But mentioning it mid tour like he's been
Speaker 3: getting a slap on the wrist. I don't think that
Speaker 3: that's necessary. That's just my feeling. I reckon Tim the
Speaker 3: sexy camel has been a great servant. Just say to him, heymte,
Speaker 3: I think BT dubs to see your last tour, but
Speaker 3: we'll let you go to the end of the tour
Speaker 3: and say, okay, that's it from me. Have really loved
Speaker 3: taking over the team in this interim period, but it's
Speaker 3: time for Tom to lead. It would have been a
Speaker 3: classier way to do it. Yeah, is it? And look
Speaker 3: it's Tom.
Speaker 1: Latham is not exactly firing on all cylinders either. He
Speaker 1: hasn't scored a century in quite a few seasons. He's
Speaker 1: adding only averaging just under thirty five.
Speaker 3: He's one of those matters that's getting to the fifth
Speaker 3: or sixth innings and then suddenly totally redeems himself and
Speaker 3: so he's due for one and he's going to go
Speaker 3: and play India.
Speaker 1: So and the press release came out this morning. Gary
Speaker 1: Stead was obviously the pr person, wrote all his quotes
Speaker 1: for him, which I'll read them out to you. And
Speaker 1: you know, we play Cliche assistant coach Cliche Bingo in
Speaker 1: all black games in Super Rugby at halftime.
Speaker 3: This is good.
Speaker 1: This is this one. You'll be dinging all the way through,
Speaker 1: so Gary said said, Tim's a fantastic player and a
Speaker 1: very good leader who is held in high regard by
Speaker 1: the teams, by the players and support stuff. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: this a good one? This is one. He's been a
Speaker 1: great servant of New Zealand cricket over nearly seventeen years
Speaker 1: playing on the international stage, and I'd like to acknowledge
Speaker 1: his humility and stepping down from the role as team captain.
Speaker 1: It's not easy giving up on something you love, but
Speaker 1: Tim is a true team man and he's made the
Speaker 1: decision with the team's best interest at heart. He's one
Speaker 1: of our greatest ever players and we'll still very much
Speaker 1: see him playing a part in our test side moving forward.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon he's going to drop him for the
Speaker 1: next test for Matt Henry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well maybe that's what what he's setting him up for,
Speaker 3: because maybe that's why it has to be done, because
Speaker 3: dropping your captain on tour feels unprecedented, right, That's probably
Speaker 3: why bats is even though they say, oh it's better
Speaker 3: to have a batter as captain, there's no real reason
Speaker 3: apart from it's just tradition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's also quite difficult as a bowling captain.
Speaker 1: It's always quite hard to bring yourself on and take
Speaker 1: yourself off, you know what I mean, that's always a
Speaker 1: harder decision. I think that's why traditionally it's usually being.
Speaker 3: I know that's a reason, but I mean if your
Speaker 3: best tactician is a bowler, then there should be no Yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't actually matter. That's why I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's tough because I think on those Indian tours we've
Speaker 3: had one seeman in some games, right yeah, and a
Speaker 3: part timer maybe a Darryl a Daryl Mitchell. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: that's why they had to do it mid tour. It
Speaker 3: just feels like even the Wagner retirement was a bit
Speaker 3: muddy as well.
Speaker 1: Even the Gapta one was muddy as well. Everyone, it
Speaker 1: seems the only one that went to plan was Ross Taylor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone else have sucked up. Yeah, exactly. Ross had
Speaker 3: a sort of procession. He knew when he when he
Speaker 3: was bowing out. They had a really nice day, wasn't
Speaker 3: it with the family on the field and it was
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing and.
Speaker 1: His mum came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so lovely. That was That was actually
Speaker 3: quite a really sort of moving moment, wasn't it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other ones I think have just gone a bit right.
Speaker 1: But saying that Tom Laysam has taken over the captaincy
Speaker 1: and heading to India for three test matches in Bangalore,
Speaker 1: Pune and wan Keedy Stadium, So he's up against it's
Speaker 1: its name. I know that the the local commentators called
Speaker 1: it wang Keedy, but all of the Western commentators are
Speaker 1: too scared to say whan Kety, so they say Wahiti.
Speaker 1: They kind of lose the k and they go Wahiti
Speaker 1: and they say.
Speaker 3: It's wan ketty.
Speaker 1: You hear the every other Indian commentator calls it wan
Speaker 1: key Exactly.
Speaker 3: When you're in wang Kety, you go with the wang Kety.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. I can't see a problem with
Speaker 3: saying wang key, what's the word? Funck is the man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there was a great piece of footage of
Speaker 1: the day of Peter Crouch and I think.
Speaker 3: It was we said country every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do all the time, Rio Ferdinand and it
Speaker 1: was Peter Crouch. They were hosting a game from Wangdorf Stadium.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah boys, you boys, And I think it was
Speaker 1: a Europa League game or something, and there was a
Speaker 1: female BBC one host with it. She goes, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: welcome to Okay, let's get this off your chest. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to do it once and then we're going
Speaker 1: to move on. She goes welcome to Wankedorf Stadium and
Speaker 1: food and then in the beta gratch ye They're like okay,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 3: Let's move on.
Speaker 1: It was a great, great way to approach that. But
Speaker 1: there's going to be more breakdown of this with Dylan Cleaver,
Speaker 1: Paul Ford, Oh, Jason Hoyt heavy Yeah. Clever is going
Speaker 1: to listen to that the BYC podcast, which will be
Speaker 1: out this afternoon. Other cricket news. We'll take a quick
Speaker 1: break and I come back with a shocking statistic from
Speaker 1: Australian cricket around Pat Cummins and Mitchell Stark. James McCarney,
Speaker 1: did you know that Pat Cummins and Mitchell Stark so
Speaker 1: in the IPL with their auction prices last year they
Speaker 1: each earned more money bowling two balls playing franchise cricket
Speaker 1: then for five days of Test cricket and the beggy
Speaker 1: green two balls.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, who's this?
Speaker 1: So their franchise cricket, Pat Commings and Mitchell Stark, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, So all their franchise contracts put together, they
Speaker 1: made more money bowling two balls than five days of
Speaker 1: hard graft and baggy ground.
Speaker 3: So they did bowl more than two balls. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: just those two balls are worth more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that shows that shows the power of that short
Speaker 1: form game.
Speaker 3: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: Way more than they boil two balls, they get the
Speaker 1: same amount of money.
Speaker 3: Else. The weird thing about T twenty International cricket and
Speaker 3: let's someone get lost in the weeds on this g lane.
Speaker 3: But that's the format that all the smaller nations have
Speaker 3: to play, Like if you're a minno nation like some
Speaker 3: more one that qualification tournament in the Pacific recently it's
Speaker 3: a T twenty tournament. Yeah, so there's no way they're
Speaker 3: not even allowed to play fifty over one days. So
Speaker 3: if you are a great test bowler from some more
Speaker 3: or Papua New Guinea stiff shit, you're playing T twenty
Speaker 3: and that is it. Yeah, because there's no test for you.
Speaker 3: So the ic C, I think there's twelve nations are
Speaker 3: they that are allowed to play tests? Ten or twelve whatever?
Speaker 3: Afghanistan is the latest one to be to be able
Speaker 3: to play Ireland. I don't know anyone yet anyway. Everyone
Speaker 3: else no, no dice. Whereas I sort of think there
Speaker 3: needs to be a pathway for the minnows to say,
Speaker 3: if you're the best test nation of the minnows, it
Speaker 3: comes through and you've got a reasonable team. Why not
Speaker 3: because I think some more with DNA's son bowling and
Speaker 3: is it Solu who plays for Auckland, he's in there
Speaker 3: as well. I'm like batting, So yeah, you can have
Speaker 3: a good test team there.
Speaker 1: I think the issue with that is five days of
Speaker 1: test cricket. Most of these most of these players are
Speaker 1: amateur professional. You can't take five days off work to
Speaker 1: go and play test match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there's no way, there's no way they can. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that will just blow the budget. But anyway, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: should say Solomon Nasha, I shouldn't just call them Dion
Speaker 3: Nasha's son soul. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw him play actually in the November five Day
Speaker 1: Test match up and Cod and Oval, oh right last year,
Speaker 1: and he tore them apart. And he bowls so much
Speaker 1: like Dion Nash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the tight little kind of.
Speaker 1: Way drifts off the wicket and everything good better too.
Speaker 3: Combat combat. So was that this Seddon park Leads having
Speaker 3: to face up to him?
Speaker 1: He was playing for the November eleven I think I
Speaker 1: think they might have maybe they might have recruited.
Speaker 3: Boys to go. Yeah, I think this is going to
Speaker 3: be fun.
Speaker 1: Siden Crackit Club versus November. That's happening again actually in
Speaker 1: November and been played at Saint Paul's and we're playing
Speaker 1: a T twenty match against the Chiefs. So you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to come down and oh, well you're going to
Speaker 1: can't umpire. You're going to have to play for us.
Speaker 1: It's the A C C versus the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: You know what happens whenever I played for you or
Speaker 3: blow a car. I think it's just us.
Speaker 1: I think you'll blow a cap umpiring cultively yeah, well that's.
Speaker 3: Going to be that. Where what's the date? That one
Speaker 3: is a Friday?
Speaker 1: I think it's Friday, the maybe twenty first of Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I let you know about that. But the five day
Speaker 1: Test match is happening St. Paul's Collegiate November versus.
Speaker 3: It only lasts three days.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of old battlers and they basically they'd
Speaker 1: like to think they could play five days, but it
Speaker 1: never goes five days. Yeah. Hey, some rugby news Jays mcconey.
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber James o'cons O'Connor is rumored to be in
Speaker 1: talks with the Crusaders to fill their first five role,
Speaker 1: given that last year the Crusaders had five, they chose
Speaker 1: five verst five.
Speaker 3: Eights throughout the season.
Speaker 1: Rivers Rayhanna, Taha Kimata, David Hevili, Riley Hohepper and Fergus
Speaker 1: Burke all played first five and now they've approached the
Speaker 1: thirty four year old Justin Bieber.
Speaker 3: Well, one thing I would say is I like all
Speaker 3: those first fives. They tried those options. Obviously, Fergus Burk
Speaker 3: being the one that got away is with Saracens. Now
Speaker 3: I do notice that there's no Tasmund names in that list.
Speaker 3: I mean, you are the Crusaders region. What's wrong with
Speaker 3: the guys who when you won the ra and Philly
Speaker 3: Shield the other day one of the first fives there's
Speaker 3: fifty five meter goal to.
Speaker 1: Win it, will is will he Heavily the first five will.
Speaker 3: He Heavily has won. Well, he's with but there isn't
Speaker 3: There are a couple that play in that squad who
Speaker 3: are pretty good, including the guy who came on and
Speaker 3: kicked that winning goal. So all I'm saying is like
Speaker 3: the lack of Tasman first fives, let's not count David
Speaker 3: Havilly because he's only just filled in there once. I think,
Speaker 3: yeah or twice is a little bit glaring for me.
Speaker 3: If you are a true regional team, what's what's wrong
Speaker 3: with you? Tazzy boys? Are we are?
Speaker 1: We are Super Rugby's truly regional teams.
Speaker 3: Though well they get them from anywhere, right, But I
Speaker 3: just think that you know that they've played to a
Speaker 3: high level. Tasman have won the NPC recently, they've won
Speaker 3: the Shield. I don't think they've ever finished lower than
Speaker 3: the six of bloody Good. There must be some first
Speaker 3: fives coming out of Nelson College. Surely he's a good
Speaker 3: one with a mullet coming out right now, but he's
Speaker 3: probably too young. The thing is, I think people overthink
Speaker 3: first five. Can I go into a little bit of
Speaker 3: a first five rant? I just look at that, Yes, Ken, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is a tough position, but it's actually probably if
Speaker 3: you've got the skills, it's probably one of the easier
Speaker 3: positions to play.
Speaker 1: It's just as a former first five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you get the kick, you get the pass
Speaker 3: not under that much pressure either. You and you've got
Speaker 3: forward pods there looking after you there giving you the
Speaker 3: ball sort of a back ball right now, so you
Speaker 3: get you start your back line further away from the defense.
Speaker 3: It's like, I think it's a pretty cool position. And
Speaker 3: if you've got a fullback of kicks or a second
Speaker 3: five of you kicks, they take all that pressure off you.
Speaker 3: If you've got a a halfback who loves to kick box,
Speaker 3: then that's another percentage of your kick. So even your
Speaker 3: exit plays an't your problem half the time. I'm like, going,
Speaker 3: so you just want someone who talks a lot and passes,
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, then then you're looking for the
Speaker 3: personality that you need one thing. The other day on
Speaker 3: the breakdown, Isaac Boss said, Cam Royguard he coached them
Speaker 3: as a junior with the Waikatur Schools teams or whatever.
Speaker 3: He said he was a really good first five as well,
Speaker 3: even though he plays halfback. And I thought that's actually
Speaker 3: quite interesting because what happens if Cortez and Noah Hotham
Speaker 3: as good as what we think they're going to be
Speaker 3: and you got three halfbacks. I mean, why doesn't Cam
Speaker 3: quite a big unit?
Speaker 1: A big unit. I sat next to him on the plane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not small. Why isn't Cam shuffle out to
Speaker 3: first five and give another option? Anyway, this is just
Speaker 3: first five chat the year.
Speaker 1: Oh great first five chat. But I always wondered with Bieber. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been around forever. He's thirty four, Justin Bieber. But
Speaker 1: the reason we call him Bieber is because he I
Speaker 1: didn't realize he debuted in Super Rugby as a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old.
Speaker 3: I know, he was so young Perth. He was with
Speaker 3: the Western Force. They did a story on him like
Speaker 3: we was sort of going to the school ball and
Speaker 3: then coming out and playing for Western Force. It was crazy, really,
Speaker 3: just at how he had moved so young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really, I didn't quite realize he David
Speaker 1: is a seventeen year old and became the second younger
Speaker 1: ever Wallaby later that year.
Speaker 3: He looks so young as well. I mean like back
Speaker 3: then he looks like a different person now, yeah he does.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 1: Call Justin Bieber, he looks like a very weathered Justin Bieber.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and then Bebes probably can relate, right. But
Speaker 3: the other thing is like, if you look at Carter
Speaker 3: young and Carter when he retired, not too much difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, but I tell you, I tell you who.
Speaker 1: I tell you who looks different from starting to retirement,
Speaker 1: and that it's open side flankers Sam k and Richie McCaw.
Speaker 1: You look at them both, they look so fresh faced.
Speaker 1: And by the end of it, Conrad Smith was the same.
Speaker 1: Conrad Smith when he started was quite a good looking,
Speaker 1: dashing young lawyer. By the end of it is he
Speaker 1: looked his face was like a welders bench. He'd been
Speaker 1: knocked around so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got he got so good by the end
Speaker 3: as well. I reckon because even when he came in
Speaker 3: he was just definitely the gliding player who set up
Speaker 3: his outsides. But then by the end he just was
Speaker 3: just one of the most important people on the team.
Speaker 3: He threw a bit her seafield. I think in that
Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup Final twenty fifteen when he got sub
Speaker 3: for Sunny Bill because he played a bloody good first half,
Speaker 3: I think he set up and there he did that
Speaker 3: sort of half folly off the ground and set up
Speaker 3: to try it anyway. Yeah, apparently he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he was livid. I'm blame him.
Speaker 1: I didn't also realize that I'm in shocked by Baber constantly.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I realized both his parents are Kiwis and he's got
Speaker 1: a New Zealand passport.
Speaker 3: Yes, two peninsula. He's from my neck of the woods. Yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah he is.
Speaker 1: So we produced a player which we love to hate
Speaker 1: for many years. Yeah, many many years. And same with
Speaker 1: who's the one that was born out of Tokodor.
Speaker 3: Wait Cooperait Cooper.
Speaker 1: The two people that New Zealand rugby fans love to
Speaker 1: hate the most were born in New Zealand. Yea, they're ours,
Speaker 1: that's our fault.
Speaker 3: I was forced to rewatch that Hong Kong test where
Speaker 3: where Beaver kind of blotted his copybook and you know,
Speaker 3: flushed his his career down the toilet. We ted did
Speaker 3: and Beaver was bloody good in that and then at
Speaker 3: last that last play. But also, why are you putting
Speaker 3: making Kevin me hooker? Possibly being played the whole game,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, But anyway, mark up against Bebes a
Speaker 3: nineteen year old just full of a snapper full of beans.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's no, yeah, exactly, you just skin them and
Speaker 3: just scored that try and then it all came back
Speaker 3: to Beaver. But also in that same game, Dan Carter
Speaker 3: miss the shocker of a tackle on Adam Ashley Cooper
Speaker 3: that led in a try, but no one remembers that
Speaker 3: because when you're when you're Goat status.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can do it the hell you want, that's right,
Speaker 1: and when and then when you're Beaver status.
Speaker 3: Yeah everything, What are you doing that for? What do
Speaker 3: you do that for?
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Speaker 3: No I did. I tried his barbecue nuts. Oh, I
Speaker 3: think they were in here. You brought that.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, salty nuts.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like you're wrapping up the pop. But
Speaker 3: I just wanted to ask you bleeders load too. I
Speaker 3: mean you were in here commentators. Oh yeah, did you
Speaker 3: have any any thoughts on who did well and who
Speaker 3: might go on the Northern tour might not?
Speaker 1: I am so relieved that Wallas side TD played so
Speaker 1: well because I was so worried when he got selected in.
Speaker 3: South Africa at six.
Speaker 1: I was like, fucking hell, he's twenty two. He could
Speaker 1: get he could get creamed here and he might not
Speaker 1: recover from this. And then he played really well and
Speaker 1: then started again. And I'm so glad he's played well
Speaker 1: because I was worried because I love him so much.
Speaker 1: I was worried that this much pressure, this early out
Speaker 1: of position because I prefer HM at eight as a
Speaker 1: running number eight. I thought he was like outstanding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the player of the d D and
Speaker 3: he was by far the best in show. Definitely, just
Speaker 3: every game he's improved and looks quite home at six
Speaker 3: as well. Like you say, it's kind of it's the
Speaker 3: biggest hospital pass. Quite often they've been. Remember Victor Vito
Speaker 3: playing a test at six and maybe at the g
Speaker 3: or Indoor Stadium in Melbourne, missus tackle on the blind
Speaker 3: side honestly, talk back callers straight into him exactly and
Speaker 3: it's like what was he doing? Blah blah, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, one blindside move that you missed your
Speaker 3: your assignment. It was just fury and I thought I
Speaker 3: just didn't want that to happen to well, the same
Speaker 3: as you. But he was great. I think the one
Speaker 3: thing I've noticed is that watching alb he played almost
Speaker 3: a full game. I think, yeah, just he is. He's
Speaker 3: a steady the ship guy here, so steady the ship
Speaker 3: runs it straight and hard. Do we need a cap
Speaker 3: for alb What we need a cap like I had? Oh,
Speaker 3: we needed some. But he does run it straight, he
Speaker 3: straightens a line, he does all those little things that
Speaker 3: I mean. Sometimes I think that we're blissed because we've
Speaker 3: got JORDI I think you need the ud on. He's
Speaker 3: he's your number twelve and then we're thirteen. He's the
Speaker 3: KYLB there. Well, I love Rico, so that's the thing.
Speaker 3: The problem is word Rico consider going out onto the
Speaker 3: wing again?
Speaker 1: Quick enough?
Speaker 3: Got enough these days? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought, also, Cody's eight percent Cody Taylor, he's getting
Speaker 1: better and better.
Speaker 3: I think he's the best player of the season. Anything. Fuck,
Speaker 3: he's good.
Speaker 1: I thought, Well, Jordan looked great at fullback. It's great
Speaker 1: to have him back in the side. Every time he
Speaker 1: got the ball.
Speaker 3: Clark Chu Clark and Caleb Clark cling you nickname Cheer
Speaker 3: but has been retired. We have a new name thanks
Speaker 3: to Caitlyn, who's a I think young Caitlyn because it
Speaker 3: was a dad that texted in saying his daughter Caitlyn
Speaker 3: came up with Chu Clarker, and I think that's going
Speaker 3: to take off.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be more happy
Speaker 1: with Chu Clarker. I don't know if he's going to
Speaker 1: be more happy with that. Anyway, go back to the
Speaker 1: other question around the Northern Tour, as a Northern tour
Speaker 1: is a chance to then blood new players into next season.
Speaker 1: For example, will t J Peter Nada go? Will they
Speaker 1: send came roy Guard and Sneakers and Hotham?
Speaker 3: I think roy Gard hasn't played enough rugby. I think
Speaker 3: TJ will go. Do you think came Roygad can play
Speaker 3: in the New Zealand fifteen or whatever? It's going to
Speaker 3: be touring as well. So I'm wondering about a guy
Speaker 3: like Peter Larkeye as well. What do you This Northern
Speaker 3: tour looks too tough because you've got England, Ireland, France
Speaker 3: and then Italy at the end. So to to is
Speaker 3: he No? I don't think is going to make it?
Speaker 1: So okay? What about let's look at other positions. So
Speaker 1: Sam Kine, he's off to Japan for three years. Yep,
Speaker 1: do you bother taking him on the Northern Yes.
Speaker 3: Hundred percentause you've got you've lost so much leadership over
Speaker 3: the past year with you know, Captain kve Man's gone,
Speaker 3: Aaron Smith all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, does Peter Lucky come in?
Speaker 3: And Sam?
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, he's your hundredth cap. You go after
Speaker 1: Japan next year?
Speaker 3: Can lack I go in Z fifteen for half the
Speaker 3: tour and then and then still a bit of a
Speaker 3: switchero come over? So what's that?
Speaker 1: What's the news on fifteen tour?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 1: What's running at the same time? I don't know in
Speaker 1: other parts of Europe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, okay, so
Speaker 1: they've got two squads over there which they can Yeah.
Speaker 1: Quite clever, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It's quite clever, So they'll be able to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't think there'll be any any any great changes really.
Speaker 3: I think that game by beating the Wallabies by twenty
Speaker 3: points there at the end pretty much locks and a
Speaker 3: lot of people. But one player who I think has
Speaker 3: probably made the greatest strides this year, apart from Wallace,
Speaker 3: a t who's like the bolter of bolters is two
Speaker 3: po Vi is now Mahi monster when he the Maney
Speaker 3: monster trying to get off the ground. When when when
Speaker 3: he plays now I know, so when he gets named
Speaker 3: or when he's talked about everyone goes, oh we obviously
Speaker 3: we've got Tupov, whereas before, even even at the start
Speaker 3: of the season, people are you know, there's some people
Speaker 3: are non chiefs. Fans would have been rolling their eyes
Speaker 3: at two V and now yes, oh god, and now
Speaker 3: you look at him and go back in the highlights.
Speaker 3: He's often the first receiver. He's got those silky skills.
Speaker 3: Plus he's the clean out king. He just goes for people.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 1: You've got Sam Darry as well, and you got dog Roll.
Speaker 1: So I think the locks.
Speaker 3: Wise it would good because put Petty Toops is Ba
Speaker 3: Toops is back as well.
Speaker 1: He played when he came off the bench, he played.
Speaker 1: I thought he played out standing in the last fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: He just brought up.
Speaker 1: He just bought some sort of mona and presence rop
Speaker 1: a big man. Same with Tossy Tossy Tossy just a
Speaker 1: bag unit. I love the fact we've got too massive
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty kg plus now into Mighty Williams
Speaker 1: and him, because I'm always jealous when I see the
Speaker 1: spring Box and even Argentina and England and everything in
Speaker 1: these they bring out thesebsolute monsters, but they don't look
Speaker 1: as big in a black jersey, you know, se I
Speaker 1: always think that when the spring Box come out. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's their cut of their jersey or
Speaker 1: the English with their white jeweys swimming.
Speaker 3: Why do you think I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: It to that? But I think we need to change
Speaker 1: jerseys then, because it doesn't look as intimidate.
Speaker 3: You don't want to hear of your moves. That's why
Speaker 3: we lost in those light gray jerseys. People. Every player
Speaker 3: with mobs was very self conscious in card If you
Speaker 3: already noticed it, it's a confidence thing. It's a confidence thing.
Speaker 3: You sing. You out there with light gray shows every
Speaker 3: single sweat ring, it shows every single.
Speaker 1: When you're sweating under your moos.
Speaker 3: Love handles and moves on full display in Cardiff two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven. That's the reason we lost. Let's own it.
Speaker 3: It's wardrobe choice.
Speaker 1: A great way to add in the podcast, Well see
Speaker 1: that tomorrow is the return of the Habibi himself, Stuart.
Speaker 1: He'll be in bits and pieces tomorrow. I guarantee you
Speaker 1: if he extended his holiday after the beer Aden tour,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he looked after himself and convalesced well.
Speaker 3: Minight is one of the few people who pushes that,
Speaker 3: you know, the KEB and Crew button, Like before they've
Speaker 3: even taken off, He's pushed that button and it's all
Speaker 3: for beers.
Speaker 1: And also, I'm speaking of Star Wars. Often after one
Speaker 1: of these trips he comes back looking like Emperor Palpatine.
Speaker 1: Oh the eyes, the eyes, the eyes have gone smoking
Speaker 1: too many daries, crushing too many beers. So the return
Speaker 1: of Emperor Palpatine tomorrow, see you later.
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