1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: early edition with ex Pole insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: and try this winter news talk said, be good. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Morning, it is six after five. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: Welcome to the program. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: We will look at this new med school that's going 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: to be put up starting construction they say by the 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: end of the year in Waykanto. 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: We'll look at that before six this morning. Donald Demo 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 3: out of. 11 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Australia, the silver Ferns leave the door open a jar 12 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: to overseas based Kiwi players. We'll investigate that. Cameron Bagri 13 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: on the economy which is now running close to the 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Arby and Z's band on inflation, and we will look 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: at new numbers out this morning on a four day 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: work week. If that sounds good to you on a 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Tuesday morning. It's just gone seven after five. The Agenda 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: twenty second of July twenty five countries have released a 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: joint statement this morning condemning deaths in Gaza and accusing 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Israel of drip feeding aid to civilians. Italy, France, the UK, 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: they're all on there, condemning the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, but 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: it's blaming the un. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: GHF was never meant to meet the needs of the 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: population alone. 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 5: That is why we have routinely and. 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 4: From the beginning, pushed for the UN and others to 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 4: operate alongside us in Gaza. There have been many, many 28 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: false reports that the UN is not allowed to operate 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: in Gaza. They and others have tens of thousands of 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: pallets of aid sitting inside Gaza, rotted just out of 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: reach of those who needed. 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Ishiba, the Japanese Prime Minister, going nowhere despite his coalition 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: losing majority in the Upper House sent to right parties 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: governed Japan almost continuously since nineteen fifty five. Coalition needed 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: fifty seats, as we told you yesterday, to retain control 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: of the Upper Chamber. 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: It ended up with forty seven. 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 5: As President of the Liberal Democratic Party, I offer my 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 5: deepest and most sincere apologies. 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 6: This is the war. 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: We must take this result humbly and sincerely to. 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: The US, the Trump administration, and Harvard University and a 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: square off in court today. This is in Boston over 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: the freezing of the two billion dollars in federal grants 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: to the university. This was the money that Trump froze 46 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: after deciding not to play ball when asked to make 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: changes to hiring, admissions and teaching practices. 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 7: They argue that the government violated Administrative Procedure Act in 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 7: freezing this money. They're saying there's actually lives in place 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 7: that would allow an administration to fund to freeze funding 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 7: if there was an allegation of improper behavior. 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: That's the first word on the News of the Day 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and x Fole Insulation keeping 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter news talk. 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: Sa'd be so, I suspect just gone nine minutes after 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: five nine two nine two is the number to text, 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: would love to hear from you this morning. I suspect 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: given that it's Tuesday morning, people might be feeling like, oh, yes, 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: I could go for a full day work week. 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: That sounds lovely. 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: And there are some studies out this mornings, numbers out 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: this morning that might please you. A four day work 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: week is linked to improved employee well being in job satisfaction. 64 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: This is according to one hundred and forty organizations that 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: have been surveyed across six countries, including New Zealand. Because 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: there's a couple of businesses here that have done it. 67 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: This is US and Irish research teams six months trials 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: involving three thousand employees at these organizations reduced their hours 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: to four days a week without getting a reduction in pay, 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: so you get same pay less time at work compared 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: with employees at twelve companies that didn't shorten their work weeks. 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: The work has reported improvements and burnout, job satisfaction, physical 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: and mental health sounds amazing. Productivity was measured. It's a 74 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: perception index. So you ask the employees do you feel 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: more productive? And they say yes, Well, of course you 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: would say that if if someone offers you a day 77 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: off a week and pays you the same money as 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: amount of money and says are you as productive? You're 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: just not. You know, you're not going to be truthful 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: about it, are you. What about the impact on the 81 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: bottom line, Well, the study doesn't tell us, you know, 82 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: do you just the business make as much money as 83 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: it did the week before. 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: Don't know. 85 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: Also, many of the businesses, when you look a bit closer, 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: who were part of the survey are not for profits 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: who don't care about profit, so it wouldn't be much 88 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: of a concern for them, and they were offering it 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: in lieu of higher salaries, so you know, we're a charity. 90 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: We can't afford to pay the big bucks, so we 91 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: will do a four day week, and you know your 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: salary might be a bit less. So I don't think 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: that's really a comparable example. Personally, nine two the number 94 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: to text. So the inflation number. We spoke about this 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: yesterday and your inflation up two point seven percent for June. 96 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Your rates, as we predicted yesterday, have gone up and 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: led the charge. But there's housing, there's electricity, there's food, 98 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: all of these things. It's up from two point four percent, 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: much lower than the two point eight percent that the 100 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: economists were predicting. Tradable inflation was up one point two percent, 101 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: whereas two one point two percent non tradable inflation that's 102 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: your domestic stuff, that fell to three point seven percent. 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: We'll get Cameron Baggery's view on this. How long will 104 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: it be? This is the question most people ask me. 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: How long until we start to feel rich again? You know, 106 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: there was a thing in Westpac put out there weekly 107 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: release a couple of weeks ago now and it said 108 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: that in the last year our disposable income had only 109 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: gone up zero point nine percent in a year. Now, 110 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: that doesn't feel great. And I think that's why people 111 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: are feeling the way that they're feeling out there today. 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: Cameron Baggery. 113 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Next on your radio and online on Iheard Radio Early 114 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: Edition with Ryan Bridge and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi 115 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry. This winter news talks. 116 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: A'd be into the. 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: Silver ferns just gone fourteen after five, the silver ferns 118 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: and the fact that they're going to allow foreign based 119 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: on overseas based keys to play in the team shortly 120 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: right now. Inflation two point seven cent yesterday. It is 121 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: close to the top end of the Reserve Banks target 122 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: Council rates were your main driver. Also, you saw increases 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: in rents, electricity, food. Most think it'll come down, so 124 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: shouldn't stop the RBNZ from their cutting cycle. Cameron Baggery's 125 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: independent economists with me this morning. Cameron, good morning, Oh, 126 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: good morning? 127 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: Hey? Is it just me? 128 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: Is it just winter? Everyone feels a little bit miserable 129 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: out there? When do we start to feel better about things? 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 6: Do you think, Well, the economy slowly turning the corner, 131 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 6: but we're coming out in a mighty economic hole. And 132 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 6: it looks like on the gross steaks we might have 133 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: stopped for a David Longi a cup of tea and 134 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 6: the j cord because growth doesn't look like it was 135 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 6: flashed them. But the main recession period was the middle 136 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 6: of twenty twenty four, the December quarter twenty twenty four 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 6: Arts quarter twenty twenty five. We've got positive growth, so 138 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 6: we're moving in the right direction. But if you look 139 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 6: at the level of GDP, we're still well below where 140 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 6: we we're twelve months ago. So once again, Ryan, we're 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 6: getting out of a hole, but we're still in a 142 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 6: bit of a hole. 143 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: And you know, we keep talking about wages are going 144 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: faster than inflation, so people are feeling richer. 145 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm mute to meet someone who. 146 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Says that, But these are all averages. I mean, is 147 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: there a reason why? Can we explain why people are 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: feeling this way? 149 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 6: Well, this is a different economic downturn to what we've 150 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 6: seen for a long time. Yeah, it's been pretty deep. 151 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 6: The economy has not just got what's called sickle damage, 152 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 6: i e. The Reserve Bank beat the economy up in 153 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 6: order to get rid of inflation. There's some pretty big 154 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 6: structural it's just going on. At the same time, we've 155 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 6: got massive problems across the educasency, infrastructure, productivity growth them. 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 6: This economy used to be one point four percent on 157 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 6: average per year. It's now down at zero point three percent, 158 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: which is basically zippo. So a little wonder that people 159 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 6: want to hit out the seas and go to Australia 160 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 6: because productivity growth is a fundamental driver of wage growth. 161 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 6: If you're not getting productivity growth or don't expect to 162 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 6: see too much wage growth on the other side. So 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 6: it's the combination of that, the cyclical downturn that we've 164 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 6: been through, the combination with there's a whole lot of 165 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 6: structural issues that we still need to address. So this 166 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 6: economic recovery, while it's underway, it's going to take a 167 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 6: little bit of time before people start to get into 168 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 6: that happy zone. 169 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: How low do you think the r being zen is 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: going to go and end by win? 171 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 6: I think they might have another twenty five up their sleeve. 172 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 6: The official castraight around three percent, you know. Three percent 173 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 6: for thefecial castrat is what's called the neutral ocia. That's 174 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 6: where the reserve bent's neither got the foot and accelerator 175 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 6: or the break. That's broadly where they need to be. 176 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 6: It's the Reserve Bank on holiday. If you're looking at growth, 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 6: you would say be saying the official cashret is going 178 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 6: sub three percent. Now that headline inflation is moving up, 179 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 6: and I know yesterday's number was marginally better expect than expectations, 180 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 6: but it's still moving up. Economically sensitive parts of the 181 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 6: economy such as constructions such as housing, the Reserve Bank 182 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 6: is exerting a pretty damping impact on You can't pass 183 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 6: on price increases, but the whole lot of administrative charges. 184 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 6: There's elocricity prices that are moving up, food prices are 185 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 6: moving up. Next quarter, we're going to see local authority 186 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 6: rates that are going to be moving up. Now that's 187 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: going to add I suspect a little bit of inflation persistence. 188 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 6: So it may well be I suspect inflation is going 189 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 6: to settle up around two and a half, which is 190 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 6: not two percent, which is what the Reserve Bank's startling. 191 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cameron, appreciate that. Thanks for your analysis this morning, 192 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: Cameron Bagri. Independent Economists Time now is eighteen minutes after 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: five nine two nine two. The numbers text Ryan. The 194 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: four day weeks are usually ten hour days. This is 195 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: coming from a pet food company and hastings that do it. 196 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: No Reeb's here, says Sarah. So basically, you work longer 197 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: hours that you're doing fewer days. Would you prefer that? Ryan, 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: it's cold and windy on my kayak this morning, says Richard. 199 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: I'll feel better when the sun comes up. Richard, What 200 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: are you doing. 201 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: Out on the kayak at this time? 202 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: If somebody if you fall in the water and get 203 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: yourself in trouble. It's dark. 204 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: Should you be kayaking in the dark. I don't know. 205 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: Maybe that's fine. Enjoy your morning, Richard. 206 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: It's eighteen minutes half to five talk silver Ferns getting 207 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: Maybe this is part of the problem. 208 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: The brain drain is happening. 209 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: All the athletes are moving overseas, so you need to 210 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: change your eligibility criteria to get them in the Silver Ferns. 211 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's 212 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge at ex Bowl Insulation Keeping, 213 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: Kiwi homes Ward and Dray this winter. 214 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: News Talk, said B five twenty one on news Talk 215 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: said B. New Zealand's netball team is about to get 216 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: a serious upgrade. The Netball New Zealand Border is voted 217 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: to update its eligibility criteria. 218 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 3: This is for Silvers. 219 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: It means that if you are an overseas based athlete 220 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: you can still play for the national team. This is 221 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: a text from one of our listeners this morning, Ryan. 222 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: No coincidence that Netball New Zealand have changed the goalpost 223 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: this year since they lost their best goal shooting Grace 224 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: Noiki to the Aussie League and won't let her be 225 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: eligible for selection here. She's also not eligible for Australia. 226 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: It's a no brainer. Joining me this morning is Margaret Foster, 227 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: former Silver Fern and former coach of the Canterbury Fames 228 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: and the Southern steel Margaret, good morning, Good morning. So 229 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: what do you make of this change? 230 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 8: Well, yay, of course, yeah, without a doubt. I mean, 231 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 8: you know rips in your country. You need to have 232 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 8: your best athletes surely, regardless of where they're playing in 233 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 8: the world. And yeah, no, I think it's brilliant. 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: What is the what was the rationale? Was it to 235 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: build a better you know depth here in New Zealand? 236 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 3: What was it? 237 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 8: Well, originally it was I don't know if you remember, 238 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 8: but back in the day when Laura Langman was over 239 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 8: in Australia playing and she was not eligible to be 240 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 8: in the New Zealand team or to make the World 241 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 8: Cup team, and they kind of had to do an 242 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 8: exception for her. Back then, I think it was really 243 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 8: about trying to build our base and ensure that our 244 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 8: athletes were staying here in the country to play netball. 245 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 8: But it just look, you need to if you want 246 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,359 Speaker 8: to be playing like top level netball. The best competition 247 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 8: is in Australia at the moment. 248 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: Does this potentially make that situation worse in a way 249 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: by making their competition stronger? 250 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: If you know, if you don't need to be in. 251 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: New Zealand to play for the Silver Ferns, then I 252 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: suppose why would you. 253 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, at the end of the grow that that 254 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 8: competition over in Australia has got all the top athletes, 255 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 8: so you know, so your weekend leak out playing with 256 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 8: the best and against the best, Like you know, you've 257 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 8: got the Jamaicans, You've got the English, you've got the 258 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 8: South Africans are all all the top athletes are over 259 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 8: there playing, so you know, it can only actually make 260 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 8: you a better athletes as well, and then you can 261 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 8: come back and represent your country and bring in that 262 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 8: wonderful form that you've got from playing as an. 263 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: Level the club teams. Do we have a competition that's 264 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: you know Trans Tasman. 265 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: No. 266 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 8: And that's the biggest thing is that we really need 267 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 8: to to get back into that competition over in Australia, 268 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 8: like you know, it's that's that's our biggest thing. I think, 269 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 8: you know, like we've we've trialed, we've gone our separate 270 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 8: ways and it doesn't really work if you're looking if 271 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 8: you're looking at the product that we've got here in 272 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 8: New Zealand. 273 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 9: I just don't know. 274 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 8: I just think it's it would be like much better 275 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 8: if we try to get back into that competition. 276 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like we would all benefit from it. 277 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Mag Thank you. 278 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: That's Margaret Foster, a former Silver Fern, former Canterbury Fames 279 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: and Southern Steel coach, talking on the change to the 280 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: eligibility criteria for from Netball NZ for the Silver Ferns. 281 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: So there you go. 282 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Be good news for any you know, hot not hot, 283 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: I mean late impressive netballers who are living overseas in 284 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: Australia right now, including Grace and Riki. Twenty five minutes 285 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: after five here on News Talks ZVB. Coming up next, 286 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: we'll talk about Waikato Med School the funding. So we 287 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: were going to be on the hook for two hundred 288 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: and eighty million, now it's only eighty What gives? 289 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: The early edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 290 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: NEWSTALKSB News Talks MB. 291 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: It is twenty seven minutes after five. 292 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Should we be a little worried this morning about the 293 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: business of business cases? David Siemil from ACT kicked up 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: of USS about the Wycutter University Doctors School cost. He 295 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: said the cost was out of whack based on a 296 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,239 Speaker 2: poor quality business case. 297 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: And he seems to have been proven correct, does he not? 298 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: Why else would the cost of the taxpayer have shrunk 299 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: from two hundred and eighty million dollars to eighty million 300 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: dollars a two hundred million dollar saving if he was right? 301 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: And he's one guy at the cabinet table. How many 302 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: other business cases don't stack up? There's an entire lucrative 303 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: business case industry in Wellington. Some of the workers don't 304 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: in house by government departments, of course, but much of 305 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: it is outsourced to the private sector. Can we trust 306 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: these reports? MB had a business case train wreck A 307 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: few years back. 308 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: You might remember this. 309 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: They were calculating the benefits of hosting events like the 310 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: World Dance Championships, and questions from the media, they went 311 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: back and redid their sums, realized they had been incorrectly 312 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: calculating the cost benefit analyses of events for two years. 313 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: More than a dozen applications had to be fixed. We've 314 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: recently had scraps over the benefits of four laning two 315 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: fun today. And this is a problem because if we 316 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: can't trust the numbers we're basing decisions on, then how 317 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: can we make proper decisions. I hope the Wycotter UNI 318 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: Med School is a success. They say it'll train in 319 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: extra one hundred and twenty doctors a year. That sounds fantastic, 320 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: but there are three signs this is a risk of 321 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: becoming a white elephant project for the government. One other 322 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: UNI say they could have done it cheaper. Two Wycauter 323 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: UNI has tons of its own money and the ability 324 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: to tap into debt. Why aren't they funding it? And 325 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: three the business case was clearly a bit shonky to 326 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: begin with. 327 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: Brian te twenty nine. 328 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: After five year on news talks, b we talked to 329 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: the Association of salaried medical specialists after just before six o'clock, 330 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: I should say this morning for their reaction to this. 331 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: I mean, if you could funnel the money to existing 332 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: you know, to Otago and Auckland and get the same outcome, 333 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: then why wouldn't you do it? I guess that's the question. 334 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: We'll talk to them just before six o'clock. Come out 335 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: next to our reporters around the country and Donald de 336 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: Mayo is out of Australia for us this morning. 337 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on early edition with ex bowl Insulation keeping 338 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Kiwi owns warm and try this winter news Talks. 339 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 3: It'd be good morning. 340 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: It is twenty four away from Sex on news Talks. 341 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: It'd be Donald Demyo out of Australia. Shortly we'll talk 342 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: to Sarah Dalton. This is from the Association of Salary 343 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: Medical Specialists. How do they think the doctor training is 344 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: going to happen at go down at Waikato University. The 345 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: construction due to start on this project, by the way, 346 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: by Christmas. Now it is a big ten week on 347 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: Wall Street this week record gains already to start the week. 348 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: The S and P five hundred up point six percent. 349 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: The Nasdaq arepero point seven percent they reached earlier in 350 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: the day's trading new intra day highs. So things are 351 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: going well on Wall Street at the moment. And we've 352 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: got big companies reporting this week. Alphabet which owns Google, 353 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: is reporting this week. Tesla will kick off the Results 354 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: seven results season for the Magnificent seven, which is your 355 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: big tech companies, So big Tech week on Wall Street, 356 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: and they are expecting big things by the way of 357 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: those companies that have so far reported in this is 358 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: reporting season, and above average, eighty three percent of American 359 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: firms posted earnings per year higher than expected, So eighty 360 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: three percent have done better than what they were expected 361 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: to do and that bodes well for a Trump economy. 362 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: You have to say at this point, isn't it twenty three. 363 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: Away from six Ryan Bridge Culum proc. 364 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: To our reporter and to Needin this morning, Colm, Good morning, morning, right, 365 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: good have you here now? Our South Tonedin community making 366 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: its message clear it wants change. 367 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: What's that about? This is sold ship. 368 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 10: Future of South Adaptation and flood Prevention. 369 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: Monitor To come back to Cullum. 370 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: I think he's having a few issues with this line 371 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: South to Edin's the flooding of course, Claire Suward is 372 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: in christ We'll go to Clear first Clear. 373 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: Christich City Council's got this. 374 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: Report on election issues. I know when I read this, 375 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: I thought, is that not up to the voters to 376 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: decide what the election issues are? 377 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 8: Oh? 378 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 11: Well, good question, Ryan. Look the council has put out 379 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 11: a report saying, look, these are the big issues and 380 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 11: this is what's going to be discussed. The idea of 381 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 11: this report is to offer key insights into the city, 382 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 11: apparently ahead of the local elections, which of course are 383 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 11: in October. This council report details basically these strategic, financial 384 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 11: and governance issues that council is dealing with at the moment. 385 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 11: The Chief Executive, Mary Richardson, says the idea is to 386 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 11: present a clear picture to in which basically to explain 387 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 11: the environment in which future council decisions need to be made. 388 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 11: She says, since the quakes, especially christ Church has re 389 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 11: emerged as a resilient and forward focused urban center, and 390 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 11: the next council will play a very important role in 391 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 11: continuing momentum. Candidate nominations for anyone wanting to put their 392 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 11: name in the hat for a run will close next Friday. 393 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather today, Claire. 394 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 11: Not so cold this morning. We'll clear too fine, A 395 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 11: bit of frost expected later tonight, a southwesterlies and a 396 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 11: high of eleven. 397 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: Nice one. Thank you, have a good day. 398 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: And Callum is with us from Dunedin back with us, 399 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 2: I should say Callum. The South didan community sharing a 400 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: clear message it wants to change about what. 401 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 10: This is about the South and Eden's futures program, the 402 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 10: climate adaptation and flood prevention options that have been presented 403 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 10: to the community, and more than twelve hundred individuals and 404 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 10: organizations have already shared their views on what they think 405 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 10: is the best future option for South Dinedan. There were 406 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 10: seven options, ranging from the status quo to large scale retreat. 407 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 10: A seventy three percent of respondents ryan so keeping the 408 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 10: status quo is going in the wrong direction. Fifty nine 409 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 10: percent agree more space for waterways in wetlands is the 410 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 10: right direction. The hidden the Council says survey shows people 411 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 10: do want action and there is now a strong mandate 412 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 10: to move beyond the status quo. A final plan is 413 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 10: scheduled for completion by the end of next year. 414 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather? 415 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 10: Freezing and frosty and foggy as well, so flights early 416 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 10: flights already delayed or canceled out as to need an airport. 417 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: But a fine day today in a high of twelve brilliant. 418 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: Thank you Max and Wellington Max. This is the Candala 419 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: Mum daughter murder trial. There is summing up today. 420 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, the Candalah murder trial. Fifty three year older Julia 421 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 9: Delooney on trial for killing her elderly mother in a 422 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 9: fit of ragel She contends someone broke in and bashed 423 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 9: Helen Gregory without robbing her of her precious belongings. The 424 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 9: crown case being that Deluney tried to stage the scene 425 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 9: to look like an accidental fall from the attic Dealoney 426 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 9: had money problems. She'd invested far, far too much in crypto, 427 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 9: for instance, and likely stole the last of her mother's 428 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 9: savings just to focus on The defense case though, which 429 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 9: summed up at the Wellington High Court yesterday. It claims 430 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 9: seemingly mundane actions like Deloney taking out a rubbish bag 431 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 9: after the death, receiving cash deposits in the weeks prior 432 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 9: leaving and returning to the scene, these have all been 433 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 9: twisted the defense claims by police to look suspicious, but 434 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 9: no intruder on the CCTV valuable. Still, their suggestive evidence 435 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 9: of theft, Deloney's fates will soon lie in the jury's hands. 436 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 9: How's your weather, max cloudy this morning, clearing this afternoon 437 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 9: eleven the high nice one, Thank you, Hey Neva, good morning, 438 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 9: good morning. So we spoke about the RSA. They've hit 439 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 9: the now illegal challenged from the rebelling clubs. 440 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 12: Yes it's right. So news Talk ZDB obtained an augurand 441 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 12: district newsletter revealing that some of the clubs is seeking 442 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 12: a judicial High Court review. Now they allege the process 443 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 12: to change the National Bodies Constitution in April is unlawful 444 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 12: and they want it reversed. Obviously, this follows the National 445 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 12: irisass spending eighteen defaulting clubs accusing some of deliberately holding 446 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 12: fees the annual fees. So Chief Executive Evan Williams he's 447 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 12: confirming that a group of Auckland based clubs they want 448 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 12: the changes to undergo a judicial review, and he says 449 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 12: they had disappointed the sections being taken. 450 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: Boitiness friendly fined you could say and signed dow say, Hey, 451 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: what's what's happening with our weather today? 452 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 12: It's fine, fine, correct again like yesterday morning frosts in 453 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 12: sheltered places, our high thirteen. 454 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: Nice one, nice bluebird day bit nippy, but that's okay. 455 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes away from six, Thanks neither. You're on News 456 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: Talk s B. We'll get to don on tomorrow out 457 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: of Australia next and then before sex we'll talk about 458 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 2: the Waikata University School med school that will be constructed 459 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: they say starting by Christmas. So many people are texting 460 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: in about a Tiger universities claim that it could have 461 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: done the same number of students but for cheaper, like 462 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: this from Mark Ryan. If it's old mate Grant Robertson 463 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: doing the numbers for Otagian University saying they could have 464 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: done it cheaper, I'd be inclined to not believe them 465 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: and go with y Kato. Seventeen away from six. 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Peace of Mind for 488 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand Business. 489 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: Sarah Doulton on the med School shortly right now, Donald 490 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: Mayo out of Australia, Donna, good morning, Good morning to 491 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: you tell us Parliament resuming for the first time since 492 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: the election, what's the Prime Minister had to say? 493 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 13: I well, this must maintain its sense of discipline as 494 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 13: they held back the same discipline they held during the 495 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 13: government's first term. Mind you, we'll mention that there's a 496 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 13: Labor senator, Charlotte Walker, who turned twenty one on election day, 497 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 13: so there's some pretty young fresh faces heading to Canberra today. 498 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 13: But Albo says, don't let the majority get to your heads. 499 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 13: Mind you, it's a ninety four seat majority, quite huge 500 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 13: as you can imagine. He says, don't take the job 501 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 13: for granted. And he says that if Labor members keep 502 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 13: their discipline, there's no reason why the MPs won't be 503 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 13: returned to the next parliament as well. So there's a 504 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 13: showing a little bit of confidence there. He says, the 505 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 13: caucus must repay the faith to voters. 506 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 8: Now. 507 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 13: His priority will be his government's priority to swipe student 508 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 13: debt by twenty percent, reform childcare and ensriying penalty rates. 509 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 13: We also heard from the Opposition leader, of course, Susan Lee, 510 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 13: who told the party room let's be ready to take 511 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 13: up the fight to labor. I will mention. On another matter, 512 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 13: it was interesting to know what Labor was going to do. 513 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 13: There was some chat about the fact that the photo 514 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 13: of former Labor leader Mark Latham was still on the 515 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 13: wall at Parliament. So the wall, yes, the photo is 516 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 13: going to stay, but the words have been added. In 517 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 13: twenty seventeen, Mark Latham was expelled from the Labor Party 518 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 13: and banned for life his actions do not accord with 519 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 13: Labour's values. Mark Latham to this day has denied any 520 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 13: allegations of emotional and physical abuse of his ex partner. 521 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: All right, and this Victorian farmer banned for owning cattle 522 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: after some quite shocking animal abuse. 523 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 13: Yes, I won't go into too much detail because it's 524 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 13: really quite distressing. This is a thirty three year old 525 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 13: from a regional area in Victoria called Colak. He cannot 526 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 13: be a cattle farmer for ten years. He's been fined 527 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 13: seventy five thousand dollars pleaded guilty to seventy two offenses 528 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 13: in relation to cruelty neglect. Now he's a well known 529 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 13: bloke in the district, a local amateur footballer. But the 530 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 13: court was told in graphic detail that the cattle had 531 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 13: suffered greatly they were found dead or dying from emaciation, 532 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 13: disease or dehydration. One hundred and seventy animals were found 533 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 13: dead on the property. 534 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: All right, Donald willieve out there. Thank you. 535 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: Donald are Australia correspondent is eleven away from six ran Bread. 536 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: So the government's given the green light a new medical 537 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: school at the University of Waikato. Doors will open twenty 538 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: twenty eight a starting role of one hundred and twenty 539 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: students a year. Eighty two million bucks. That's how much 540 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: we pay down from two hundred and eighty million dollars 541 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: which was previously promised at the election from National Sarah 542 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: Dalton's the executive director of the Association of Salary Medical 543 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: Specialist Sarah. Good morning, Good morning, Ryan, How are you 544 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: doing very well? 545 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: Thank you. 546 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: The government says we will get more rural doctors and 547 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: gps out of doing this at Wayicuto University. What stops 548 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: you from you know, once you do your studies, how 549 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: do you decide or are there rules about where you. 550 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: Must go next. 551 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 14: It's just every new graduate doctor has to do two 552 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 14: years practical work. Generally in hospitals, they're the ones known 553 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 14: as house officers before they get their general registration with 554 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 14: the Medical Council, So no doctor emerging from university has 555 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 14: any specialty. They might think they know that they want 556 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 14: to be a rural doctor or a surgeon, or an 557 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 14: anethetist or a psychiatrist or a GP, but they have 558 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 14: to do this two years and then they will continue 559 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 14: on as a registrar, choose a training program with one 560 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 14: of the colleges, and once they emerge from that training 561 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 14: program five to ten years later, they will be a specialist. So, 562 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 14: you know, everyone might hope that more people who go 563 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 14: to this new medical school will be gps or rural 564 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 14: hospital medicine specialists, but we can't guarantee that. The bottom line, 565 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 14: and this is the good news, is that the more 566 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 14: doctors we train, the more doctors will have And actually 567 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 14: the highest proportions of any single specialist group registered with 568 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 14: the Medical Council now are gps. So it stands to 569 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 14: reason that the more we train, the more GPS will get. 570 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: Do we know of the doctor that we currently train, 571 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: how many of them end up overseas? 572 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 14: I don't personally know their statistic. 573 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: But because is there a risk that we train these 574 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: people and then they bugger off? 575 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 14: Oh, There is absolutely that risk. But there is a 576 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 14: side of the coin, which is make the terms and 577 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 14: conditions to stay here, make it make it easier to 578 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 14: stay here, make it better to stay here, Guarantee them jobs, 579 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 14: make sure they're earning good money. We've got a real 580 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 14: problem with Australian doctors earning so much more than they 581 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 14: can possibly. 582 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: How much How much do you mean, because I mean 583 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: I've seen some of those specialist rates and I've had 584 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: friends have moved for these rates and they're double what 585 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: what you know? Do we need to double what you realistically? 586 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 14: Yeah, if you're talking senior doctors, obviously we because we 587 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 14: deal with salary doctors. So if we just make that comparison. 588 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 14: In Australian they have a state system. So the state 589 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 14: we adoptors earn the least current is New South Wales. 590 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 14: Our specialist scale starts at step one, goes all awaut 591 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 14: step fifteen. So after fifteen years a doctor here will 592 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 14: be at the top of our specialist scale. And in Australia, 593 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 14: in their first year they can earn more than our 594 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 14: step fifteen, which so you can go to Australia and 595 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 14: earn more in your first year, then you can earn. 596 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, in your fifteen Sarah, that is that is quite 597 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: a number. Sarah Doll's and an executive director of the 598 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: Association of Salaried Medical Specialists. 599 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: Eight minutes away from six, So. 600 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: We train them, I mean, you've got to train them, 601 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: because that's what you have to do. But then what 602 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: happens after that? Are we willing to happy to let 603 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: them go for our eighty million dollar sunk investment? 604 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: Seven away from six? 605 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 606 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: analysis earlier this year with Ryan Bridge and ex Bowl 607 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry this winter news talks, 608 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: he'd been some news talks. 609 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: The BG, the anti helicopter lobby activist groups are quite determined, 610 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: aren't they. This is Ali Williams and Animobra wanting the 611 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: chople to land at their house. They got the green 612 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: light and now the quiet Sky White and Matar who's 613 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: the group leading the anti helicopter brigade. They filed an 614 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: appeal in the Environment Court. So yes, it's going to 615 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: the Environment Court now. And Mike Lee, who's an Autland counselor, 616 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: he's going to bring a notice of motion this week 617 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: to ban helicopters and residential areas full stop. So counsel 618 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: is actually going to vote on a chopper ban five 619 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: to six. Bryan Bridge, Mike's here now, Hey, Mike morning, 620 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: And we wonder why we've got problems in this country. 621 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we can't land the Well, the problem is. 622 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 15: They had a process and nobody participated in that process 623 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 15: more than those people who are going to the Environment Court. 624 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 15: There were fourteen hundred submissions, and most of those people 625 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 15: didn't even live in Auckland. 626 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: And didn't talk about the environmental impacts, but rather about 627 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: wealthy people. 628 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: About wealthy people they talk they did. 629 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 15: They did have some worries about some birds and some nesting, 630 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 15: and I thought the commissioners, the Independent Commissioners, were that 631 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 15: they said, there's nothing inherently unurban about a. 632 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: Helicopter, which is what this group is saying. It's mad 633 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: that you can compare it to a biker or a 634 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: car basically a permitted activity. 635 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 15: Well, I think they did compare it to a biker 636 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 15: a car. But if you look at the numbers in 637 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 15: that case, I mean there's sixty landing permits in way Hecki. 638 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 15: Now the reason for that is just outside of all 639 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 15: it's an Island. 640 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: Yes, so you need one. 641 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: So there's that, and there's. 642 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: The rest of all. 643 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 15: There's about three or four. I mean, we're not all 644 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 15: going out to buy a halicopter now to land in 645 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 15: our backyard. 646 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: If you lived next door to one, mic. 647 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 15: Yeah ins and you had your opportunity to have you 648 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 15: all say you know and what do you do? 649 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: Well, there's medical school this morning, all. 650 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: Right, look for Mike is here next See tomorrow. 651 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 652 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 653 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.