1
00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,560
Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

2
00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:09,719
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business ladies stick to playing football. Jonathan

3
00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,800
Speaker 1: Kursley is a US correspondent with US Jonathan.

4
00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,800
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Ryan, A good afternoon do you and the

5
00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,120
Speaker 2: listeners right across the network.

6
00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,599
Speaker 1: So Rob Ryaner's son Nick has been charged with the

7
00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,799
Speaker 1: murder of his parents. What can you tell us about that?

8
00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,840
Speaker 2: These charges dropped formerly a couple of hours or so ago.

9
00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,680
Speaker 2: They've been announced by the Los Angeles dicrity attorney just

10
00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,760
Speaker 2: before that, and they are two counts off murder in

11
00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,279
Speaker 2: the first degree. Now they are very very serious. They

12
00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,560
Speaker 2: are the most serious of murder charges and they carry

13
00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,640
Speaker 2: with them the most serious penalty that been life in

14
00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,919
Speaker 2: prison with no parole or the death penalty. Now they

15
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,519
Speaker 2: have said that they haven't decided not whether or not

16
00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,280
Speaker 2: to pursue the death penalty yet and that that will

17
00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,120
Speaker 2: be made in conjunction with the victims' families. That is

18
00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,760
Speaker 2: normal protocol for a case where these charges and the

19
00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,440
Speaker 2: death penalty is a possibility, is the prosecutors will always

20
00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,279
Speaker 2: go to the family and say this is this what

21
00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,600
Speaker 2: you want? But what you've got to a very very

22
00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 2: sad set of circumstances where Nick Reiner, who has suffered

23
00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,960
Speaker 2: years of mental health issues and drug abuse and had

24
00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,640
Speaker 2: been open about that. He'd worked with a movie with

25
00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,759
Speaker 2: his father about the very issues of addiction, and he'd

26
00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,360
Speaker 2: opened up about the disconnect he felt with his father,

27
00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,280
Speaker 2: particularly as a child, and Rob Ryiner had spoken about

28
00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,679
Speaker 2: the issues that he felt as a father trying to

29
00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,800
Speaker 2: deal with a son who was dealing with significant mental

30
00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,839
Speaker 2: health issues. And now Nick has been charged with their murders.

31
00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,520
Speaker 2: We've just seen some footage released within the last half

32
00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,560
Speaker 2: an hour or so ago showing Nick Rhiner with a

33
00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,280
Speaker 2: backpack slung over his shoulder going into a service station

34
00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,679
Speaker 2: just a matter of hours after the alleged killings took place.

35
00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,240
Speaker 2: It is then the police swooped on him on Sunday night,

36
00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160
Speaker 2: US time. They took him into custody, and they have

37
00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,720
Speaker 2: been pretty methodical LA police with this. They always said

38
00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,240
Speaker 2: they were going to be from the outset, and they

39
00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,640
Speaker 2: have been, and now they've laid these charges. There was

40
00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,760
Speaker 2: going to be a court hearing today but that was scrapped.

41
00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,000
Speaker 2: And interestingly, Nick Hiner has hired a very high profile

42
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,640
Speaker 2: defense attorney, Al Jackson, who was among his clients Harvey

43
00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,919
Speaker 2: Weinstein and also Kevin Spacey as well, So this is

44
00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,959
Speaker 2: a high profile defense attorney. He's now going to be

45
00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,720
Speaker 2: representing Nick Rhiner when he eventually gets through court, but

46
00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,680
Speaker 2: that's going to be delayed while they essentially carry out

47
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,840
Speaker 2: mental health assessments to see if he's fit to be

48
00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,520
Speaker 2: moved from the facility where he is being held into

49
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,079
Speaker 2: a court room.

50
00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Trump and Venezuela, He's continuing to put the squeeze

51
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,400
Speaker 1: on a bit of a blockade going on here on

52
00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,640
Speaker 1: some oil tankers going to and fro.

53
00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially as sanctioned oil tankers going in and out

54
00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,840
Speaker 2: of Venezuela. He's essentially putting in a block a, promising

55
00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,240
Speaker 2: essentially the US will continue to clamp down on this issue.

56
00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,080
Speaker 2: We saw them seize a tanker last week. And he's

57
00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,680
Speaker 2: now also moved in huge amounts of US military hardware

58
00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,560
Speaker 2: into the area around the Caribbean and Venezuela, and is

59
00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,840
Speaker 2: essentially saying to Nicholas Maduro, olderly authoritarian leader inside Venezuela,

60
00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,080
Speaker 2: get out, get out of the job. It had been

61
00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,200
Speaker 2: reported he'd offered him a deal essentially leaves the country

62
00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,760
Speaker 2: that Maduro rejected, and as a result, while the President

63
00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,400
Speaker 2: is making this all about drug trafficking and saying that

64
00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 2: you know that there had been drug boats coming out

65
00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,360
Speaker 2: of Venezuela towards the United States, That's how all of

66
00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,160
Speaker 2: this started. Now it is that Venezuelan oil is making

67
00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,320
Speaker 2: its way to Rana to other parts of the world,

68
00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,799
Speaker 2: and he's trying to stop that too. This is now

69
00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,800
Speaker 2: a United States versus Venezuela approach, and that's exactly what

70
00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,960
Speaker 2: this is. And the United States has a huge military

71
00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,760
Speaker 2: hardware there. I'm not suggesting that they're going to use it,

72
00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120
Speaker 2: but the President keeps suggesting that some sort of ground

73
00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,880
Speaker 2: assault could be possible. He's alluded to that over many

74
00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,560
Speaker 2: many times, as recently as last week. But now this

75
00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,760
Speaker 2: move to sanctioned oil tankers is just yet another move

76
00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,600
Speaker 2: trying to tighten the belt. This is a real economic

77
00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,520
Speaker 2: foot on the throat, if you like, of Nicholas Maduro.

78
00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,320
Speaker 2: Oil is a hugely important factor for the vende whale

79
00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,360
Speaker 2: and economy, and if he stops that or he's going

80
00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,360
Speaker 2: to cause Maduro some serious domestic pain.

81
00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,480
Speaker 1: Now this is a fascinating story because there are two

82
00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,760
Speaker 1: different accounts from one interview with Vanity Fear, This is

83
00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,240
Speaker 1: Susie wilds Trump's chief of staff. So the article sort

84
00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,200
Speaker 1: of implied to she said all this bad stuff about

85
00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,520
Speaker 1: Trump and you know, a lot of his cabinet, and

86
00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,320
Speaker 1: then she comes out and says on it's all taken

87
00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,599
Speaker 1: out of context. So who's right?

88
00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly the question who is right in this

89
00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,440
Speaker 2: because Susie Wild sat down with Vanity Fair over the

90
00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,040
Speaker 2: course of eleven interviews for what was essentially a feature

91
00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,000
Speaker 2: piece about her, and now she's essentially saying that this

92
00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,239
Speaker 2: was all the hit jobs. She was quoted as saying

93
00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,559
Speaker 2: that Trump has an alcoholics personality even though he doesn't drink,

94
00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,600
Speaker 2: said that JD. Vance was a conspiracy theorist. He sort

95
00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,760
Speaker 2: of tongue in cheek responded that to that today and

96
00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,760
Speaker 2: then you had Susie Wills herself take straight to social

97
00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,480
Speaker 2: media this morning, as did many of the cabinet members,

98
00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,040
Speaker 2: and Susie essentially said, the article published earlier this morning

99
00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,000
Speaker 2: is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and the

100
00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,359
Speaker 2: finest president, White House staff and cabinet in history. She

101
00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,480
Speaker 2: said the context was disregarded, so look who to believe? Well,

102
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,560
Speaker 2: she's probably said part of it. There's no doubting that

103
00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,000
Speaker 2: it's quoted in there. She's not denying the quotes that

104
00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,679
Speaker 2: were actually said, it's that she's saying they were taken

105
00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,480
Speaker 2: out of context. So I suppose the question is now

106
00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,400
Speaker 2: is what was the context?

107
00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan appreciate that. Jonathan Kurzley, a US correspondent. For

108
00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,400
Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News

109
00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,359
Speaker 1: Talk sai'd Be from four pm weekdays, or follow the

110
00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,040
Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio