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Speaker 5: A well, A very very good morning and a warm

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Speaker 5: welcome to you on this the first show, the first

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Speaker 5: Resident Builder on Sunday show here at news Talk. Se'd

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Speaker 5: be for twenty twenty five, so it is a great

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Speaker 5: pleasure to return. Well, we haven't really taken a break

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Speaker 5: to be fair, But it's great to be back, and

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Speaker 5: it's it is twenty twenty five, and that brings with it,

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Speaker 5: I suppose optimism, hope, opportunity, potential for a year ahead. Certainly,

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Speaker 5: there's plenty of challenges out there for the construction sector,

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Speaker 5: But it is delightful to be back. I trust that

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Speaker 5: long lingering hangover or some yeah something you've got of

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Speaker 5: you've had a good New Year's and you are preparing

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Speaker 5: yourself for the year ahead. If you've been out in

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Speaker 5: having a sort of a very sober night and then

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Speaker 5: year ahead will be fascinating. I think from a political

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Speaker 5: whether so much of what was talked about last year

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Speaker 5: It's going to be a fascinating year ahead. So if

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Speaker 5: practice as well. We build better houses, and it's complex.

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Speaker 5: There's lots and lots of well, initially moving but in

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Speaker 5: I wasn't actually talking about bureaucracy, but people there are

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Speaker 5: several texts actually quite critical of me in their eyes,

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Speaker 5: defending bureaucracy, defending regulations. I don't mind talking about that,

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Speaker 5: it right now, because the lines are open. Oh, eight

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Speaker 5: can text which is nine two nine two or ZBZB

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Speaker 5: as Pete at newstoo zb dot co dot nz. So

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Speaker 5: let's get into it. The lines are open. The number

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Speaker 5: I'm more than happy to talk about tools. Actually I

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Speaker 5: just want to make my house a little bit warmer,

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Speaker 5: Great to be with you really looking forward to the

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Speaker 5: year ahead. It is six fifteen here on the fifth

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Speaker 5: very good morning to you. How are you this morning, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: good morning, into you, into you.

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Speaker 6: I've got a little chip on my kitchen bench. I've

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Speaker 6: got like an undermount think and it's right on the

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Speaker 6: rim of that app. I've heard you in the past

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Speaker 6: already that up. So I'm on Central Auklands.

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Speaker 5: Depends what's the material good.

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Speaker 6: Scott Constantino's Spain brand underneath it. I'm not quite sure.

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Speaker 6: It looks like some sort of resin sort of it's

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Speaker 6: kind of stone sort of effect was in the house

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Speaker 6: when we brought it, so we're just really tiding it

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Speaker 6: up for the new owner really, So yeah, sure, I'm certain,

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Speaker 6: but i'd say some sort of reason.

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Speaker 5: No, Okay, Look, composites have been around for a while

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Speaker 5: and they are quite repairable, so well, in most cases

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Speaker 5: used a little while ago, a crylic fix, but that

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Speaker 5: the classic you know, finished the project and someone, possibly me,

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Speaker 5: they can be repaired. I'd start with bench doctors go

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Speaker 5: from there. Yeah, okay, yeah, And are you staying in

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Speaker 6: it's fairly whold, but it's obviously quite good quality it

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Speaker 6: seeing your life in it, and I'd say, yeah that

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Speaker 6: about maybe eight meals via a couple of meals, but

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Speaker 6: it every time you go to this.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Pete, happy to you, to you, and to

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Speaker 7: I'm kind of coming to the end stage of my project,

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Speaker 7: So I've looked at keystone, which will be quite deep.

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Speaker 7: Why the drop down is five hundred and within that

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Speaker 5: Well? No, I don't think so. And that retaining wall

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Speaker 7: No, it rises above the bottom of the tank. And

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Speaker 5: Look for something that's five hundred high. No, I mean

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Speaker 5: Right, and that's obviously allow me to go public line

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Speaker 7: Creative ideas of what products could be used that won't

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Speaker 5: so of base course and put the tank on top

431
00:23:54,095 --> 00:23:56,335
Speaker 5: of there, and that was absolutely fine. Then I'm not

432
00:23:56,375 --> 00:23:59,175
Speaker 5: digging anything down and as long as the base is

433
00:23:59,375 --> 00:24:02,735
Speaker 5: sound and in your case, you do have I keep

434
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:05,295
Speaker 5: emphasizing the seizemic restraint because again, if it's part of

435
00:24:05,335 --> 00:24:09,615
Speaker 5: the manufacturer spaceification, then it pays to do it, you know,

436
00:24:09,695 --> 00:24:13,495
Speaker 5: if you need to do it. But then if you

437
00:24:13,575 --> 00:24:15,815
Speaker 5: need to dig in some posts and you're not allowed

438
00:24:15,815 --> 00:24:18,495
Speaker 5: to dig because of the proximity to the water care line,

439
00:24:20,175 --> 00:24:22,255
Speaker 5: I guess this is the only option in terms of

440
00:24:22,335 --> 00:24:23,375
Speaker 5: location for the tank.

441
00:24:24,855 --> 00:24:25,175
Speaker 8: It is.

442
00:24:25,375 --> 00:24:31,175
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, yes, you know what has become quite tricky

443
00:24:31,175 --> 00:24:34,735
Speaker 7: about it is it's a longer fence line which was

444
00:24:34,775 --> 00:24:38,855
Speaker 7: in the wrong place, right. The neighbor built it too

445
00:24:38,895 --> 00:24:41,175
Speaker 7: far on my boundary. So I took a not ot

446
00:24:41,455 --> 00:24:44,655
Speaker 7: and I took a notchot that was large enough for

447
00:24:44,735 --> 00:24:46,735
Speaker 7: the tank to sit in so that it would be

448
00:24:47,175 --> 00:24:49,815
Speaker 7: one straight line and on the existing fence.

449
00:24:49,895 --> 00:24:52,055
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, okay.

450
00:24:53,015 --> 00:24:56,055
Speaker 7: So it's going to be all right, But but it's

451
00:24:56,135 --> 00:24:59,935
Speaker 7: just beneath the base of the fence where the posts

452
00:25:00,015 --> 00:25:03,015
Speaker 7: go into the ground. They had to dig down five

453
00:25:03,095 --> 00:25:06,415
Speaker 7: hundred Yes, that's the thing, so that the sense all

454
00:25:06,455 --> 00:25:08,575
Speaker 7: offense sort of above the ground. It's not high level

455
00:25:08,615 --> 00:25:08,935
Speaker 7: or anything.

456
00:25:08,935 --> 00:25:09,855
Speaker 5: It's I'm with you.

457
00:25:11,255 --> 00:25:13,975
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I've got this cut in the ground and

458
00:25:14,015 --> 00:25:18,415
Speaker 7: I'm worried the fence is going to ca then something

459
00:25:18,455 --> 00:25:22,775
Speaker 7: needs to be filling in some of the gaps that

460
00:25:23,015 --> 00:25:28,695
Speaker 7: either not Yes, this fence there, Look, it has to.

461
00:25:28,655 --> 00:25:30,255
Speaker 8: Be at each end.

462
00:25:30,295 --> 00:25:31,695
Speaker 7: It's going to take up some of the length of

463
00:25:31,775 --> 00:25:33,295
Speaker 7: the tank, and I'm going to have to make that

464
00:25:33,375 --> 00:25:37,535
Speaker 7: much bigger. I didn't realize I didn't realize that to retain.

465
00:25:37,215 --> 00:25:40,535
Speaker 5: It a little bit, I would try and even out

466
00:25:40,575 --> 00:25:43,495
Speaker 5: the retaining by excavating pushing down in one area, and

467
00:25:43,535 --> 00:25:45,695
Speaker 5: then the height of the retaining in the other area

468
00:25:45,855 --> 00:25:49,015
Speaker 5: is diminished. And also I think, you know, I mean,

469
00:25:49,055 --> 00:25:52,415
Speaker 5: I know, in terms of protecting the public asset, what

470
00:25:52,455 --> 00:25:55,855
Speaker 5: water care are concerned about when you build over is

471
00:25:55,895 --> 00:25:58,935
Speaker 5: that you have nothing that bears on the pipe, right,

472
00:26:00,095 --> 00:26:03,255
Speaker 5: But that typically is more of a focus in terms

473
00:26:03,255 --> 00:26:07,655
Speaker 5: of actual buildings. Right, So in the unlikely event that

474
00:26:07,695 --> 00:26:09,815
Speaker 5: someone needs to come and repair that public line in

475
00:26:09,855 --> 00:26:12,095
Speaker 5: the future, they could drain the tank and lift it

476
00:26:12,135 --> 00:26:14,215
Speaker 5: off and do the excavation and get down to it. So,

477
00:26:14,455 --> 00:26:17,175
Speaker 5: you know, it's not quite the same I'm thinking about

478
00:26:17,175 --> 00:26:19,295
Speaker 5: the principle of it. It's not quite the same as

479
00:26:19,375 --> 00:26:23,615
Speaker 5: if you had a house sitting over a public either

480
00:26:23,695 --> 00:26:25,255
Speaker 5: wastewater or storm water line.

481
00:26:25,295 --> 00:26:28,615
Speaker 6: So I think, well that makes sense.

482
00:26:28,655 --> 00:26:32,495
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's not quite the same duty

483
00:26:32,495 --> 00:26:35,015
Speaker 5: of care. Let's say, given that it's a structure that

484
00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:38,095
Speaker 5: could be in the event of it needing to be moved,

485
00:26:38,095 --> 00:26:40,535
Speaker 5: could be moved. So again i'd sort of dial back

486
00:26:40,575 --> 00:26:42,055
Speaker 5: the caution on that a.

487
00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:45,975
Speaker 7: Little bit, right, okay, but they still say in the

488
00:26:45,975 --> 00:26:49,175
Speaker 7: plans as they specify keystone. So I'm just looking for products.

489
00:26:49,495 --> 00:26:52,335
Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, I've used keystones, and remember there's two.

490
00:26:52,455 --> 00:26:54,775
Speaker 5: There's kind of two different types of keystones as well.

491
00:26:54,775 --> 00:26:57,055
Speaker 5: There's the big heavy one for doing much higher wall,

492
00:26:57,415 --> 00:27:00,055
Speaker 5: and then there's kind of a garden edging one which

493
00:27:00,135 --> 00:27:04,095
Speaker 5: is much smaller, still effective, but a lot smaller. Take

494
00:27:04,095 --> 00:27:07,015
Speaker 5: a look how big they are. I think they're probably

495
00:27:07,055 --> 00:27:09,215
Speaker 5: about three hundred long and maybe one hundred and twenty.

496
00:27:08,975 --> 00:27:14,375
Speaker 7: De Okay, look I find those in high restores.

497
00:27:14,455 --> 00:27:20,175
Speaker 5: Absolutely. Ok you take care all this wrapping up the project.

498
00:27:20,375 --> 00:27:23,975
Speaker 5: Take care. You're the new stalks. B and Michelle, A

499
00:27:24,095 --> 00:27:24,695
Speaker 5: very good morning.

500
00:27:25,855 --> 00:27:28,015
Speaker 3: Oh did you pink? Happy New Year?

501
00:27:28,415 --> 00:27:32,895
Speaker 5: And to you, my dear, how are you no complaint?

502
00:27:32,935 --> 00:27:35,335
Speaker 5: Box of fluffies in my corner.

503
00:27:35,055 --> 00:27:38,055
Speaker 3: Of the world. But I've got plenty to say about

504
00:27:38,055 --> 00:27:39,215
Speaker 3: the Regional.

505
00:27:38,855 --> 00:27:43,455
Speaker 6: Council in the walk space, go right ahead.

506
00:27:44,175 --> 00:27:49,655
Speaker 3: I am visually impaired ten years living lockdown, all these

507
00:27:49,655 --> 00:27:56,055
Speaker 3: problems that came kept propector uh, COVID, you name it, Gabriel.

508
00:27:56,855 --> 00:28:00,975
Speaker 3: I've survived a lot, but I can't do the Regional Council.

509
00:28:01,255 --> 00:28:04,975
Speaker 3: I live in headlock. We're a village. We have a

510
00:28:05,015 --> 00:28:10,415
Speaker 3: district council who looks after footplants, stormwater. This is this

511
00:28:10,575 --> 00:28:14,695
Speaker 3: lovely lady, the last corner, and it just brought it

512
00:28:14,735 --> 00:28:23,255
Speaker 3: all back. My beautiful home wreck and ruined. No stormwater runoff.

513
00:28:24,055 --> 00:28:27,895
Speaker 3: My whole place is sinking. It's the blitter. I'm not

514
00:28:28,095 --> 00:28:32,255
Speaker 3: covered by insurance because it's neglect and it's the whole

515
00:28:32,335 --> 00:28:38,655
Speaker 3: wil thing. It just breaks my heart. It's legislation. There's

516
00:28:38,735 --> 00:28:43,855
Speaker 3: my issue. I'm old, I'm blind, I live alone, independent,

517
00:28:44,495 --> 00:28:49,495
Speaker 3: with gorgeous help for mate concern, but adding flex there's

518
00:28:49,575 --> 00:28:54,015
Speaker 3: no vehicle crossing. There is no way for this water

519
00:28:54,135 --> 00:28:57,175
Speaker 3: from maybe road to go to a storm water there

520
00:28:57,255 --> 00:29:00,695
Speaker 3: is none. I live in a sinkhole. Now the house

521
00:29:00,815 --> 00:29:05,255
Speaker 3: is splitting. It's all coming apart, and I have nothing

522
00:29:05,975 --> 00:29:10,295
Speaker 3: to pict. My dad passed away. It was my everythink,

523
00:29:10,935 --> 00:29:15,015
Speaker 3: my brains in the world. And it gives me sanity.

524
00:29:15,855 --> 00:29:17,815
Speaker 3: And there do you go? Where do you go with

525
00:29:17,895 --> 00:29:21,375
Speaker 3: the vesicle crossing content to stop? I have a shared

526
00:29:21,495 --> 00:29:25,775
Speaker 3: driveway with three others. I'm the only occupy owner and

527
00:29:25,815 --> 00:29:29,935
Speaker 3: it only affects my fletre.

528
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:34,935
Speaker 5: Any answers, they're probably well to be fair. Sometimes there

529
00:29:34,975 --> 00:29:37,455
Speaker 5: are answers, but you won't like them, right.

530
00:29:38,295 --> 00:29:38,895
Speaker 3: Give it to me.

531
00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:43,375
Speaker 5: Well, no, no, no, because because I can't you know,

532
00:29:43,695 --> 00:29:46,415
Speaker 5: I don't know all of the details, and and these

533
00:29:46,455 --> 00:29:50,655
Speaker 5: things do get incredibly complex. But you know, I think

534
00:29:50,655 --> 00:29:52,975
Speaker 5: one of the things that as a country we're probably

535
00:29:53,015 --> 00:29:56,735
Speaker 5: going to have to face is that some areas that

536
00:29:56,815 --> 00:30:00,455
Speaker 5: we thought we could live in, we can't write that

537
00:30:00,455 --> 00:30:01,015
Speaker 5: that was the.

538
00:30:01,255 --> 00:30:04,655
Speaker 6: Change the subdivision, you're right, you know, and.

539
00:30:05,615 --> 00:30:08,935
Speaker 5: Possibly areas that we've lived in for a you know,

540
00:30:09,215 --> 00:30:12,455
Speaker 5: a longer period of time now a subject of flooding

541
00:30:12,495 --> 00:30:16,855
Speaker 5: and inundation in ways that the only answer is pretty

542
00:30:16,895 --> 00:30:18,015
Speaker 5: much retreat.

543
00:30:17,855 --> 00:30:21,535
Speaker 3: Listen to me completely, because there's no runs, no still,

544
00:30:22,375 --> 00:30:24,055
Speaker 3: no drainage at that point.

545
00:30:24,095 --> 00:30:28,855
Speaker 5: You would hope that the state, whether that's regional or national,

546
00:30:29,895 --> 00:30:32,375
Speaker 5: would would be able to say to people, hey, look,

547
00:30:33,335 --> 00:30:36,175
Speaker 5: you know, we gave you a consent to build there

548
00:30:36,415 --> 00:30:38,095
Speaker 5: thirty forty fifty years ago.

549
00:30:38,015 --> 00:30:40,895
Speaker 3: But it's it's not nineteen sixty, it's.

550
00:30:40,775 --> 00:30:43,655
Speaker 5: No good anymore, and we're going to help you to

551
00:30:43,775 --> 00:30:44,135
Speaker 5: move on.

552
00:30:46,375 --> 00:30:49,135
Speaker 3: You know that it's just a repair job that should

553
00:30:49,135 --> 00:30:49,695
Speaker 3: have been.

554
00:30:51,295 --> 00:30:54,855
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think some councils are facing the fact

555
00:30:54,895 --> 00:30:58,855
Speaker 5: that they what they're trying to repair. The repair is

556
00:30:58,895 --> 00:31:03,015
Speaker 5: not going to work right that you know, I'm aware of.

557
00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:06,935
Speaker 5: I went to a house that was flooded a while ago,

558
00:31:07,055 --> 00:31:10,615
Speaker 5: and I'm now aware that that area they've simply bought

559
00:31:10,695 --> 00:31:14,295
Speaker 5: all of the owners out and they've said it's in practice,

560
00:31:14,415 --> 00:31:16,735
Speaker 5: nothing we can do is going to stop the flooding

561
00:31:16,775 --> 00:31:18,575
Speaker 5: in the future, So we're just going to have to

562
00:31:18,615 --> 00:31:21,535
Speaker 5: buy you out now. Obviously counsels don't really want to

563
00:31:21,535 --> 00:31:26,335
Speaker 5: be in that position because that's a really expensive activity

564
00:31:26,135 --> 00:31:29,815
Speaker 5: and so on, but it is going to be a

565
00:31:29,855 --> 00:31:32,175
Speaker 5: reality that we're going to have to accept, I think,

566
00:31:33,215 --> 00:31:35,455
Speaker 5: and maybe you fall into that category.

567
00:31:35,895 --> 00:31:39,375
Speaker 6: I just wonder if not really neglect any right.

568
00:31:39,575 --> 00:31:43,455
Speaker 3: This is why there's no insurance because when I actually

569
00:31:43,495 --> 00:31:45,935
Speaker 3: got a lawyer onto the case because she said this

570
00:31:45,975 --> 00:31:49,295
Speaker 3: is wrong, they've just not finished the job because they're

571
00:31:49,295 --> 00:31:53,135
Speaker 3: not on the same page. Why are they a regional

572
00:31:53,535 --> 00:31:57,175
Speaker 3: look after the roading and the district look after the footpaths.

573
00:31:57,575 --> 00:32:01,575
Speaker 3: They did a new footpath used half of my property

574
00:32:01,775 --> 00:32:08,175
Speaker 3: as except to the vehicle crossing on the main road,

575
00:32:08,695 --> 00:32:12,055
Speaker 3: but they didn't put a storm water. So I am

576
00:32:12,095 --> 00:32:15,495
Speaker 3: the one who wears all the runoff from Napier Road.

577
00:32:15,855 --> 00:32:19,095
Speaker 3: It's poisoned my land, It's poisoned.

578
00:32:19,295 --> 00:32:22,215
Speaker 5: That sort of thing there. You know, there is provision

579
00:32:22,255 --> 00:32:25,495
Speaker 5: within I think it's the Property Act in particular that

580
00:32:25,695 --> 00:32:32,735
Speaker 5: talks about right about Okay, So I'm just wondering whether

581
00:32:32,855 --> 00:32:38,655
Speaker 5: for you, Michelle, given your circumstances, is that maybe maybe

582
00:32:38,775 --> 00:32:43,775
Speaker 5: through age concern, or through great power or through advice

583
00:32:44,015 --> 00:32:44,335
Speaker 5: at all.

584
00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:46,535
Speaker 6: Okay, you're the next step, darling.

585
00:32:48,775 --> 00:32:52,295
Speaker 3: I'm not giving up, Squeaky. Where will get the results?

586
00:32:54,455 --> 00:33:00,455
Speaker 5: And sometimes I had this conversation with him with your knowledge,

587
00:33:00,495 --> 00:33:02,375
Speaker 5: who had an idea and he's like, tell me if

588
00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:06,735
Speaker 5: it's a good idea or not. Look, I My sense

589
00:33:06,935 --> 00:33:10,695
Speaker 5: is for in your circumstances, you kind of want an advocate,

590
00:33:10,815 --> 00:33:14,295
Speaker 5: right which might be a retired lawyer. It might be

591
00:33:14,295 --> 00:33:16,855
Speaker 5: someone who's involved in community work who can sort of

592
00:33:16,975 --> 00:33:21,495
Speaker 5: assess all of the documentation, all of the.

593
00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:24,615
Speaker 3: From the district council. He tried to advocate on my behalf.

594
00:33:24,895 --> 00:33:26,695
Speaker 5: He didn't get any want to see the exit.

595
00:33:27,695 --> 00:33:29,895
Speaker 3: He did as much as he was in his power.

596
00:33:30,455 --> 00:33:33,615
Speaker 3: It's legislation on the regional council and a lot of.

597
00:33:33,575 --> 00:33:37,255
Speaker 5: It either local councilor or member of parliament.

598
00:33:38,415 --> 00:33:40,535
Speaker 3: Oh, then there they're beautiful, so.

599
00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:42,375
Speaker 5: But still don't get anywhere.

600
00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:45,855
Speaker 3: Feeling for the situation, but can't fix it themselves. It's

601
00:33:45,895 --> 00:33:49,295
Speaker 3: up to legislation. And I couldn't get a constant to

602
00:33:49,335 --> 00:33:55,655
Speaker 3: get another person to do a vehicle exit because it's

603
00:33:55,735 --> 00:33:59,655
Speaker 3: encagious on regional and they wouldn't pay. And then we

604
00:33:59,695 --> 00:34:02,655
Speaker 3: had Cabrielle and now and then my son died and

605
00:34:02,695 --> 00:34:04,575
Speaker 3: he was my advocate, and now.

606
00:34:04,775 --> 00:34:05,655
Speaker 9: I'm just lost.

607
00:34:05,895 --> 00:34:09,775
Speaker 3: Yeah, with we age concern. They are my best friends,

608
00:34:10,255 --> 00:34:14,055
Speaker 3: the beautiful people and what they do, so they provide

609
00:34:14,175 --> 00:34:18,055
Speaker 3: that I don't have to leave home. There's no transport,

610
00:34:18,135 --> 00:34:21,015
Speaker 3: there's no buzzes in my side of the road to

611
00:34:21,055 --> 00:34:25,695
Speaker 3: accommodate transport. I won't use the free taxi. It's a

612
00:34:25,735 --> 00:34:28,975
Speaker 3: burden on some tax player, but I don't need it

613
00:34:29,015 --> 00:34:30,215
Speaker 3: because it's all Are.

614
00:34:30,095 --> 00:34:31,975
Speaker 5: You in a position where you could sell and move on.

615
00:34:33,775 --> 00:34:38,095
Speaker 3: I'm still paying a mortgage. It's not because it's just

616
00:34:38,335 --> 00:34:42,295
Speaker 3: losing value and I'm on a bench and only night

617
00:34:42,375 --> 00:34:48,535
Speaker 3: and day all my life to get my home. That's

618
00:34:48,575 --> 00:34:52,655
Speaker 3: the same thing she said, get ready, a village is

619
00:34:54,095 --> 00:34:58,455
Speaker 3: more understanding because in township you just come the next

620
00:34:58,455 --> 00:35:03,575
Speaker 3: door neighbor. The village is amazing. I live independent alone,

621
00:35:03,895 --> 00:35:08,975
Speaker 3: and I I'm so blessed with the kindness of others.

622
00:35:09,215 --> 00:35:12,655
Speaker 3: But it doesn't fix legislation and can't fix it.

623
00:35:13,455 --> 00:35:17,455
Speaker 5: No, And that's where I wonder whether, in some sense, Michelle,

624
00:35:17,455 --> 00:35:21,015
Speaker 5: that the problem is. I mean, we like to think

625
00:35:21,055 --> 00:35:23,775
Speaker 5: of all problems are being solvable, but possibly they're not.

626
00:35:24,255 --> 00:35:27,335
Speaker 5: And I don't mean that in a dismissive sense. I

627
00:35:27,815 --> 00:35:32,255
Speaker 5: just know sometimes it feels I do feel that an advocate.

628
00:35:32,655 --> 00:35:36,855
Speaker 5: You mentioned you lost your son. My condolences for that.

629
00:35:37,255 --> 00:35:39,335
Speaker 5: I'm just I tell you, could you just s down

630
00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:41,735
Speaker 5: the line, keep you and Mark will get your number

631
00:35:41,735 --> 00:35:44,255
Speaker 5: and I'll put my thinking cap on and we'll see

632
00:35:44,295 --> 00:35:48,055
Speaker 5: what we can do. Maybe the one with the runoff

633
00:35:48,055 --> 00:35:50,175
Speaker 5: needs to go to the Minister of Building. Probably not

634
00:35:50,215 --> 00:35:52,495
Speaker 5: really their thing. I think it's that local advocate thing,

635
00:35:52,975 --> 00:35:55,215
Speaker 5: you know, maybe a retired lawyer looking for a bit

636
00:35:55,255 --> 00:35:57,095
Speaker 5: of a push. We'll be back in a moment.

637
00:35:58,575 --> 00:36:01,655
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering

638
00:36:01,655 --> 00:36:03,815
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter

639
00:36:03,895 --> 00:36:06,655
Speaker 1: Wolf Cabin call on Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

640
00:36:06,855 --> 00:36:09,975
Speaker 1: The resident builder with light Force Solar where your twenty

641
00:36:10,015 --> 00:36:14,135
Speaker 1: twenty five solar purchase earns you airports dollars used talk SIB.

642
00:36:15,295 --> 00:36:18,295
Speaker 5: Some texts coming in with regard to the conversation with Michelle.

643
00:36:18,335 --> 00:36:19,655
Speaker 5: We'll see what we can do there. A couple of

644
00:36:19,735 --> 00:36:22,455
Speaker 5: useful ones, couple of to be fair not so useful ones.

645
00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,615
Speaker 5: We'll we'll talk about that a little bit later on

646
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Speaker 5: the show. If you've got a question of a building nature,

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Speaker 5: call us now oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor, Get the right advice from

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Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare the resident builder with Lightforcesolar dot co dot

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Speaker 1: NZE make twenty twenty five the year you switch to

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Speaker 5: Your news talk said, b Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 5: eighty is the number.

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Speaker 11: Hello Janet, Yes hi, My question is rather trivial compared

655
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Speaker 11: to the last rule. I have a shore enclosure which

656
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Speaker 11: I want to revamp. It's very old. It's been in

657
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Speaker 11: the in the downstairs here of our property, so it's

658
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Speaker 11: got a concrete floor and the shower there has and

659
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Speaker 11: I don't know what you call it, but it's an

660
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Speaker 11: old fashioned trap. It's not an easy waste one so

661
00:37:18,815 --> 00:37:21,455
Speaker 11: you have to step step up into it. Yes, I

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Speaker 11: want to do a complete revamp of a whole lot.

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Speaker 11: I was wondering, can I lower that down and do

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Speaker 11: an easy trap installation, but it would have to drain

665
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Speaker 11: from it has got about one point five meters to

666
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Speaker 11: the outside wall to where the trap is, So I

667
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Speaker 11: don't know what sort of height I'm going to get

668
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Speaker 11: in the advantage of changing to an easy trap or

669
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Speaker 11: better to stay with the old one.

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Speaker 5: So when you say the old one, so what you

671
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Speaker 5: think is underneath the shower tray is a sort of

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00:37:53,895 --> 00:37:56,175
Speaker 5: conventional P or an S trap, right, so it.

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Speaker 11: Comes down like you have under a hand basin.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, So I mean typically that's what I was

675
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Speaker 5: looking at one the other day. Maybe a two hundred

676
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Speaker 5: mil turn twenty and thirty mil from let's say the

677
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Speaker 5: outlet to the bottom of the bend and then back

678
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Speaker 5: up again, and an easy waste are often about eighty

679
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Speaker 5: to ninety. So I think there's an easy one hundred,

680
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Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty mil that you might get out

681
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Speaker 5: of it by changing that. Obviously, it will require removing

682
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Speaker 5: the lining, pulling out the shower tray, reframing that area,

683
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Speaker 5: dropping it down lower. But yeah, I mean, yes, there

684
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Speaker 5: are obvious savings by using an easy trap, which is

685
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Speaker 5: a lot sharper.

686
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Speaker 12: Yeah.

687
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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, Now, so that brings me to my next question.

688
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Speaker 11: All of the sort of custom built shower trays now,

689
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Speaker 11: because this has got an old stone stare, Yeah, all

690
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Speaker 11: of the custom built ones now there's sort of for

691
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Speaker 11: sort of more level thraw a level plumbing underneath. Of course,

692
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Speaker 11: it's a concrete saw, so we can't do that. It's

693
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Speaker 11: got to go out the wall. Do you know how

694
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Speaker 11: do you need to build a frame for those?

695
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yes you would, So

696
00:39:17,775 --> 00:39:20,135
Speaker 5: it's essentially, you know, you know where your pipe work's

697
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Speaker 5: got to go, so you can't frame up there, but

698
00:39:22,655 --> 00:39:25,855
Speaker 5: you can frame around it, lay in, you know, use

699
00:39:25,895 --> 00:39:30,375
Speaker 5: tannelized timber and put some tannalized ply down, create a

700
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Speaker 5: platform for your now lower shower tray to sit on.

701
00:39:34,855 --> 00:39:37,295
Speaker 5: And as long as the shower tray is fully supported

702
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Speaker 5: just as if it was sitting on the ground, then

703
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Speaker 5: that'll be fine.

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Speaker 11: Right, fine, Okay, then how do you finish off sort

705
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Speaker 11: of the front face of it, because you're still going

706
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Speaker 11: to have to step up there.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's right, you will look. The most simple way

708
00:39:52,335 --> 00:39:55,495
Speaker 5: would probably be tiles or something similar. If you were

709
00:39:55,575 --> 00:39:57,415
Speaker 5: using a vinyl on the floor, you could bring the

710
00:39:57,455 --> 00:40:02,655
Speaker 5: vinyl up. But what's what's on the concrete floor of

711
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Speaker 5: the bathroom anyway?

712
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Speaker 11: It's one four in which is all getting ripped up.

713
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Speaker 11: So we're to be doing a complete revamp of that downstairs.

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Speaker 5: Would you put vinyl as in sheet vinyl down again?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Then I would just form an upstand and have

717
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Speaker 5: the vinyl come up. And ideally, if when you're framing

718
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Speaker 5: the platform for the shower tray, you set it back

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Speaker 5: a couple of millimeters so that the vinyl can actually

720
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Speaker 5: tuck up underneath the lip of the shower tray.

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Speaker 11: Right okay.

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Speaker 5: Or you could have a little step flashing in there

723
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Speaker 5: as another option. But you just want to make sure

724
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Speaker 5: that if you're going to bring the vinyl up that upstand,

725
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Speaker 5: that you don't provide access for water to penetrate, you know,

726
00:40:45,775 --> 00:40:49,295
Speaker 5: from the top right, so just condensation and overflow.

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Speaker 6: From the shower.

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Speaker 5: So as long as it tucks either tucks underneath the

729
00:40:52,455 --> 00:40:55,215
Speaker 5: shower tray or you have a little step flashing there,

730
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Speaker 5: that will make it waterproof.

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Speaker 11: Well, okay, yep, no, no, that's fine. And you don't

732
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Speaker 11: like what the old fashion trips you needed to have

733
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Speaker 11: access to these.

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Speaker 5: You can clean from the top, you can clean from

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Speaker 5: the trot a bitter word to go. Yep, it'll make

736
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Speaker 5: a big difference to that that step up, because that's

737
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Speaker 5: always a bit nervous, isn't it nerve wracking? I think

738
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Speaker 5: it's more nerve wracking stepping out of the shower and

739
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Speaker 5: when you're slightly unbalanced. Yeah, we'll be back straight after

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Speaker 5: News Sport helping.

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Speaker 1: You get those DIY projects done right. The Resident Builder

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Speaker 5: got a question of a building nature, this is the

746
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Speaker 5: show for you. Good morning, Welcome along to the Resident

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Speaker 5: Builder on Sunday with me people wolf Camp, the Resident Builder,

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Speaker 5: taking your questions today and given that this is the

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Speaker 5: first show for twenty twenty five looking forward to the

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Speaker 5: year ahead. So if you've joined us now, welcome and

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Speaker 5: I trust that you'll stay with us as we go

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00:42:00,015 --> 00:42:03,095
Speaker 5: through the year. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 5: the number to call. You can text as well, which

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Speaker 5: It is Pete atnewstalk zb dot co dot NZ. I

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Speaker 5: was struck by the passing this week of Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 5: former President of the United States of America. I have

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Speaker 5: to say, in my head or my heart, basically, he's

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Speaker 5: always been one of my heroes. I've huge admiration for him,

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Speaker 5: and you can criticize the politics and for those of

762
00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:39,335
Speaker 5: us have a certain vintage we remember, you know, the

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Speaker 5: attempt to free the hostages and those sorts of things

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Speaker 5: way back in the day. But his commitment to public

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Speaker 5: life and service I think has been outstanding, and images

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Speaker 5: of him as a sort of ninety year old still

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Speaker 5: going out and working building houses with habitat for humanity

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Speaker 5: is just an image that I think is exceptional and

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Speaker 5: exemplary for those people in public life. So sad to

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Speaker 5: I mean, look at a hunt. There's not really a

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00:43:08,455 --> 00:43:10,895
Speaker 5: lot of sadness at the passing, but there is a

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00:43:10,975 --> 00:43:14,375
Speaker 5: certain fondness and for me, a gratitude of a life

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Speaker 5: well lived. So yeah, I just thought i'd mentioned that oh,

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Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. Karen.

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Speaker 5: Very good morning to you. How are you this morning, Karen.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, Peter, Well, thank you. I'm wondering if you

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Speaker 8: could tell me anything about main Mark.

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00:43:29,775 --> 00:43:34,295
Speaker 5: Main Mark as in the injected like it's an Essentially,

779
00:43:34,335 --> 00:43:39,095
Speaker 5: it's an expanding polyurethane that they inject underneath buildings to

780
00:43:39,255 --> 00:43:43,695
Speaker 5: level them up. Yes, yes, yeah, they've been around for

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00:43:43,695 --> 00:43:45,815
Speaker 5: a while. There was a slightly different name a few

782
00:43:45,895 --> 00:43:50,295
Speaker 5: years ago. I have never personally contracted them to do

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00:43:50,375 --> 00:43:52,935
Speaker 5: work for me on behalf of a client, but I

784
00:43:53,015 --> 00:43:57,015
Speaker 5: do have first hand reports, so two people that I

785
00:43:57,095 --> 00:44:00,695
Speaker 5: know who have had them come in for very particular

786
00:44:00,735 --> 00:44:06,295
Speaker 5: circumstances right, and in both cases it's been quite successful.

787
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Speaker 5: So one was a corner of a building that was

788
00:44:10,535 --> 00:44:13,175
Speaker 5: actually two storied. It was a block basement, brack above

789
00:44:13,775 --> 00:44:16,455
Speaker 5: and in one corner of the garage. It had dropped

790
00:44:16,455 --> 00:44:19,535
Speaker 5: away to the extent where the garage door was jamming,

791
00:44:19,575 --> 00:44:21,655
Speaker 5: that sort of thing, and they were able to go

792
00:44:21,815 --> 00:44:26,055
Speaker 5: underground there inject this expanding foam and it's way more

793
00:44:26,055 --> 00:44:28,775
Speaker 5: technical than that, but essentially that's what it is, and

794
00:44:28,815 --> 00:44:34,655
Speaker 5: then lift the building up in a similar circumstance. So, look,

795
00:44:34,735 --> 00:44:38,935
Speaker 5: it is effective. I also know that it's not cheap,

796
00:44:39,215 --> 00:44:42,775
Speaker 5: but then again, your alternatives are often as expensive or

797
00:44:42,815 --> 00:44:45,255
Speaker 5: more expensive. So you know, if you've got a building

798
00:44:45,295 --> 00:44:48,055
Speaker 5: that's sunk, I was looking at a place probably a

799
00:44:48,135 --> 00:44:52,095
Speaker 5: year ago exactly the same thing, built onto a bit

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00:44:52,095 --> 00:44:53,855
Speaker 5: of an edge where they hadn't done a great job

801
00:44:53,895 --> 00:44:56,935
Speaker 5: with the retaining and the building had subsided in one corner,

802
00:44:58,015 --> 00:45:02,295
Speaker 5: and they looked at getting that product in to do

803
00:45:02,335 --> 00:45:04,415
Speaker 5: the work. Yeah, it is effective.

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00:45:05,575 --> 00:45:06,615
Speaker 6: In a word.

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00:45:06,775 --> 00:45:10,055
Speaker 8: I've got a twenty meter concrete path and it's about

806
00:45:10,175 --> 00:45:13,775
Speaker 8: a meter wide and it's come away from the dwelling

807
00:45:14,215 --> 00:45:20,375
Speaker 8: about two centimeters right along, and to replace it and

808
00:45:20,415 --> 00:45:24,055
Speaker 8: get in bobcats and goodness knows what would just be horrific.

809
00:45:24,575 --> 00:45:26,895
Speaker 8: So I thought that this might be a good thing.

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00:45:27,255 --> 00:45:31,735
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean most look I can't speak for them,

811
00:45:31,815 --> 00:45:35,015
Speaker 5: but I you know where it's What it's designed to

812
00:45:35,055 --> 00:45:39,055
Speaker 5: do is to lift vertically. So if there's a sideways displacement,

813
00:45:39,175 --> 00:45:42,455
Speaker 5: so the let's say the ground is moving and your

814
00:45:42,495 --> 00:45:46,735
Speaker 5: path is moved away from the wall, is essentially a

815
00:45:46,775 --> 00:45:50,415
Speaker 5: horizontal separation. I don't know that it would be that

816
00:45:51,095 --> 00:45:55,375
Speaker 5: useful to try and sort that out. I mean, is

817
00:45:55,415 --> 00:45:59,055
Speaker 5: the path still reasonably even or has it become a

818
00:45:59,055 --> 00:46:00,855
Speaker 5: trip hazard for you?

819
00:46:00,895 --> 00:46:04,215
Speaker 8: No? No, it's in great condition and it's all in

820
00:46:04,255 --> 00:46:08,495
Speaker 8: one big piece, so it's obviously got reinforcing in it.

821
00:46:08,695 --> 00:46:14,055
Speaker 5: Yeah, look up from what you're describing. If your only

822
00:46:14,095 --> 00:46:16,215
Speaker 5: issue is the fact that it's come away from the

823
00:46:16,295 --> 00:46:19,495
Speaker 5: edge of the foundations of the building and left a gap,

824
00:46:19,815 --> 00:46:21,375
Speaker 5: why not just deal with the gap?

825
00:46:24,215 --> 00:46:25,975
Speaker 8: Right? What would just itest?

826
00:46:27,255 --> 00:46:29,815
Speaker 5: I mean at twenty milt's a little bit challenging to fill,

827
00:46:29,855 --> 00:46:34,695
Speaker 5: you'd probably use a semenititious material. Again, so rather than

828
00:46:34,735 --> 00:46:38,295
Speaker 5: try and use a seilant, which is we'll look a

829
00:46:38,295 --> 00:46:42,255
Speaker 5: little bit odd. I mean, we do it until panel

830
00:46:42,415 --> 00:46:44,735
Speaker 5: walls and that sort of thing, beads of up to

831
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Speaker 5: twenty mil, but a bead at twenty mili on the ground,

832
00:46:48,015 --> 00:46:51,255
Speaker 5: I'd be inclined just to use a sementitious repair. So

833
00:46:51,295 --> 00:46:54,295
Speaker 5: there's powders that you can buy that you can mix up.

834
00:46:54,495 --> 00:46:56,975
Speaker 5: They've got an additive in them that helps them to adhere,

835
00:46:57,415 --> 00:47:01,615
Speaker 5: and simply trowl that into that area there. It'll stop

836
00:47:01,655 --> 00:47:04,415
Speaker 5: water getting in, which is a good thing, and it

837
00:47:04,455 --> 00:47:06,855
Speaker 5: will just take your eye away from the fact that

838
00:47:06,855 --> 00:47:09,095
Speaker 5: the gap running along between the path and the house.

839
00:47:10,615 --> 00:47:13,655
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I'm just tying it'll keep moving.

840
00:47:15,255 --> 00:47:17,575
Speaker 5: Yeah, but how long has it taken to move twenty mil.

841
00:47:19,895 --> 00:47:22,455
Speaker 8: Oh quite some time. But the spouting holding it and

842
00:47:22,495 --> 00:47:24,535
Speaker 8: the gas line's holding it in place.

843
00:47:26,855 --> 00:47:30,295
Speaker 5: Right, I really hope that that's not the case, but yeah,

844
00:47:30,575 --> 00:47:31,655
Speaker 5: I take your word for it.

845
00:47:31,895 --> 00:47:32,535
Speaker 3: I think it is.

846
00:47:37,095 --> 00:47:39,775
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really hope that that's not the case. But look,

847
00:47:40,055 --> 00:47:43,135
Speaker 5: I think in that situation, I know that the cost

848
00:47:43,175 --> 00:47:47,855
Speaker 5: of replacing the pathway would be fairly expensive. I would

849
00:47:47,895 --> 00:47:50,175
Speaker 5: say that the cost of trying to do something to

850
00:47:50,415 --> 00:47:53,615
Speaker 5: remediate it, in terms of push it back, would probably

851
00:47:53,655 --> 00:47:55,375
Speaker 5: be a similar cost, to be fair.

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00:47:56,335 --> 00:47:57,175
Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah.

853
00:47:59,495 --> 00:48:01,895
Speaker 5: One of the challenges to it is where the pricing

854
00:48:01,895 --> 00:48:03,935
Speaker 5: gets a little bit difficult. Is they don't know how

855
00:48:04,015 --> 00:48:08,615
Speaker 5: much material they'll need to use to lift the building, right,

856
00:48:08,855 --> 00:48:14,615
Speaker 5: so you know, depending on the firmness of the ground,

857
00:48:14,655 --> 00:48:17,895
Speaker 5: whether there are any unexpected voids, those sorts of things.

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00:48:19,335 --> 00:48:22,975
Speaker 5: Funnily enough, and I say this not out of any

859
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Speaker 5: disrespect to the company or anything like that, but the

860
00:48:25,855 --> 00:48:29,215
Speaker 5: nature of it is that it seeks out any fissures

861
00:48:29,215 --> 00:48:33,495
Speaker 5: and openings and soft spots, right, So the foam is indiscriminate.

862
00:48:33,575 --> 00:48:35,855
Speaker 5: It will go wherever there's a gap. That's the whole

863
00:48:35,855 --> 00:48:39,415
Speaker 5: point of it. And in one instance, I know that

864
00:48:39,455 --> 00:48:41,655
Speaker 5: there was a I think it might have been a

865
00:48:41,695 --> 00:48:45,015
Speaker 5: stormwater pipe thankfully that was nearby that was not in

866
00:48:45,095 --> 00:48:47,215
Speaker 5: good condition, so there was some gaps and cracks in

867
00:48:47,255 --> 00:48:49,615
Speaker 5: an old storm water line, and of course the foam

868
00:48:49,615 --> 00:48:51,575
Speaker 5: found its way into that as well. But you can

869
00:48:52,015 --> 00:48:54,255
Speaker 5: do a video survey and have that cleaned out later on.

870
00:48:54,335 --> 00:48:56,895
Speaker 5: But that's how it works. It fills up all of

871
00:48:56,935 --> 00:49:01,375
Speaker 5: the voids and then once they're full, then the pressure

872
00:49:01,415 --> 00:49:04,455
Speaker 5: of it starts to then lift the building. It's quite remarkable.

873
00:49:06,335 --> 00:49:08,855
Speaker 5: But look in your situation, I'd do a beat of

874
00:49:09,615 --> 00:49:12,895
Speaker 5: I'd do some filler alongside there, and it'll be enough

875
00:49:12,895 --> 00:49:16,415
Speaker 5: to take your eye off it. Okay, thank you, nice

876
00:49:16,455 --> 00:49:19,015
Speaker 5: to talk to you all the very best. Yeah, good bye. Then,

877
00:49:19,495 --> 00:49:22,295
Speaker 5: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

878
00:49:24,095 --> 00:49:27,535
Speaker 5: Suggestions on how to apply reason or similar products to

879
00:49:27,575 --> 00:49:30,495
Speaker 5: coat an existing polished concrete bench shop? Is it possible

880
00:49:30,535 --> 00:49:33,855
Speaker 5: for the DIY or should I seek professionals to carry

881
00:49:33,895 --> 00:49:36,535
Speaker 5: that out? There was a product around a while ago

882
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:41,415
Speaker 5: dash I think it was dac H or something similar

883
00:49:41,455 --> 00:49:44,575
Speaker 5: to that which was designed specifically for that or for

884
00:49:44,935 --> 00:49:48,575
Speaker 5: like old laminate bench tops that needed a refresh. Perhaps

885
00:49:48,575 --> 00:49:51,975
Speaker 5: you had a beautiful lime green benchtop that was all

886
00:49:51,975 --> 00:49:53,575
Speaker 5: the rage back in the day and you wanted to

887
00:49:53,615 --> 00:49:57,855
Speaker 5: just recoat it, so have looked for that or similar

888
00:49:58,015 --> 00:50:01,135
Speaker 5: there would be There would be options there. Oh w

889
00:50:01,135 --> 00:50:04,415
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Hello, Brian,

890
00:50:07,455 --> 00:50:09,975
Speaker 5: your family, thank you, into you and yours.

891
00:50:10,455 --> 00:50:14,295
Speaker 4: And your team. Okay, Tom, the stain on concrete. You

892
00:50:14,375 --> 00:50:16,695
Speaker 4: covered that issue just for crystals last.

893
00:50:16,535 --> 00:50:19,175
Speaker 5: Year, as in like kiler and those sorts of things,

894
00:50:20,455 --> 00:50:24,375
Speaker 5: or from firewood, you know, gum and mason from fire

895
00:50:27,695 --> 00:50:29,375
Speaker 5: Do you know what what caused the stain?

896
00:50:31,295 --> 00:50:36,895
Speaker 4: It was just timber splitting the timber on the and

897
00:50:36,935 --> 00:50:40,255
Speaker 4: then leaving it stacked with I mess, A poor rain,

898
00:50:40,335 --> 00:50:41,015
Speaker 4: A normal.

899
00:50:41,095 --> 00:50:46,055
Speaker 5: Right, Yes, as happens, lots of I got a bunch

900
00:50:46,055 --> 00:50:49,175
Speaker 5: of texts afterwards, a lot of them saying don't use

901
00:50:49,215 --> 00:50:52,695
Speaker 5: acid now. The only the reason I mentioned the acid

902
00:50:52,775 --> 00:50:56,095
Speaker 5: is we often use acid or spirit assaults or hydrochloric

903
00:50:56,135 --> 00:51:00,735
Speaker 5: acid to wash down cement, like brick layers use it

904
00:51:00,735 --> 00:51:03,895
Speaker 5: to clean down brickwork. Afterwards. But it is specifically there too,

905
00:51:04,015 --> 00:51:06,295
Speaker 5: because it eats away at the cement and we use

906
00:51:06,415 --> 00:51:10,975
Speaker 5: it on exposed aggregates to clean off the surface. The

907
00:51:11,375 --> 00:51:13,575
Speaker 5: text that came through a lot of people advocating for

908
00:51:13,655 --> 00:51:18,455
Speaker 5: baking soda. So whether you make the surface slightly damp,

909
00:51:18,495 --> 00:51:21,535
Speaker 5: apply the baking soda and then leave it for a while,

910
00:51:21,575 --> 00:51:23,855
Speaker 5: and it agitates in the same way that to be

911
00:51:23,895 --> 00:51:26,775
Speaker 5: fair at home, if I've been a little bit negligent

912
00:51:26,815 --> 00:51:29,895
Speaker 5: with my cooking, and I often am, and I've burnt

913
00:51:29,895 --> 00:51:32,815
Speaker 5: the bottom of the pan, then I will often just

914
00:51:32,935 --> 00:51:36,255
Speaker 5: let it soak with baking soda overnight and then you know,

915
00:51:36,335 --> 00:51:38,575
Speaker 5: the next day it's way easier to clean. So the

916
00:51:38,575 --> 00:51:39,895
Speaker 5: baking soda seems to be the.

917
00:51:39,855 --> 00:51:44,015
Speaker 4: Go good solution, thank you.

918
00:51:45,175 --> 00:51:47,215
Speaker 5: And I think we've all been there. When you've finished cooking,

919
00:51:47,255 --> 00:51:48,495
Speaker 5: you look at the bottom of the pan and go

920
00:51:48,535 --> 00:51:50,335
Speaker 5: ohh as I should have stirred it a bit more,

921
00:51:50,375 --> 00:51:52,975
Speaker 5: But anyway, it happens, but the baking soda seems to

922
00:51:53,015 --> 00:51:54,735
Speaker 5: sort it okay.

923
00:51:54,855 --> 00:51:59,135
Speaker 4: No. The other thing, I really applaud your efforts to

924
00:51:59,775 --> 00:52:02,895
Speaker 4: educate people on house mooddling and also the energy.

925
00:52:03,655 --> 00:52:04,015
Speaker 5: Thank you.

926
00:52:05,055 --> 00:52:08,895
Speaker 4: Also you mentioned for Christmas there is a person that

927
00:52:08,975 --> 00:52:13,175
Speaker 4: has got a program out that will model energy input

928
00:52:13,215 --> 00:52:16,055
Speaker 4: over a house over a year over that it's lifestyle.

929
00:52:16,335 --> 00:52:21,735
Speaker 5: Yep. This is so to provide some context. Right. So

930
00:52:22,615 --> 00:52:24,775
Speaker 5: at the moment in terms of complying with H one

931
00:52:24,815 --> 00:52:28,655
Speaker 5: of the Building Code, which is all around energy energy efficiency,

932
00:52:28,655 --> 00:52:33,415
Speaker 5: and so it often focuses on insulation. There is three

933
00:52:33,455 --> 00:52:36,815
Speaker 5: methods for compliance. One is the schedule method, which is

934
00:52:36,855 --> 00:52:38,535
Speaker 5: you go to the building code and the building code

935
00:52:38,575 --> 00:52:40,415
Speaker 5: says you need to put R six point six in

936
00:52:40,455 --> 00:52:44,535
Speaker 5: the ceiling and you need I think it's two point

937
00:52:44,575 --> 00:52:46,255
Speaker 5: seven or two point eight in the walls, et cetera,

938
00:52:46,295 --> 00:52:50,535
Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. Now that's I don't want to

939
00:52:50,535 --> 00:52:52,735
Speaker 5: go into it, but it's nonsense right as far as

940
00:52:52,735 --> 00:52:57,815
Speaker 5: I'm concerned. So then then we have calculation method, and

941
00:52:57,855 --> 00:53:00,735
Speaker 5: then we have a modeling method. And the calculation method

942
00:53:01,215 --> 00:53:05,255
Speaker 5: seemed like a dark art only practiced by, you know,

943
00:53:05,295 --> 00:53:09,255
Speaker 5: the those who'd been some secret training camp deep in

944
00:53:09,255 --> 00:53:11,575
Speaker 5: the areas or something like that for a long time.

945
00:53:12,015 --> 00:53:14,375
Speaker 5: But now as it's become more common, there are lots

946
00:53:14,375 --> 00:53:18,855
Speaker 5: and lots of practices, whether the architectural practices or specialists

947
00:53:19,135 --> 00:53:21,815
Speaker 5: who are doing this sort of modeling and calculation who

948
00:53:21,855 --> 00:53:23,415
Speaker 5: are able to do it? And I was at the

949
00:53:23,495 --> 00:53:26,375
Speaker 5: New Zealand Institute of Building survey As conference late last

950
00:53:26,455 --> 00:53:29,055
Speaker 5: year and one of the people who was there is

951
00:53:29,055 --> 00:53:32,655
Speaker 5: a building server. His practice, for example, was doing it,

952
00:53:32,855 --> 00:53:35,855
Speaker 5: and at a rough estimate for an average house, it

953
00:53:35,895 --> 00:53:38,375
Speaker 5: was about a six hundred to seven hundred dollar fee

954
00:53:38,735 --> 00:53:43,735
Speaker 5: to do calculation method for a building consent. Now, I

955
00:53:43,815 --> 00:53:47,295
Speaker 5: thought that was quite reasonable, and by being a little

956
00:53:47,335 --> 00:53:51,935
Speaker 5: bit more finessed around how we approach the assembly of

957
00:53:51,975 --> 00:53:55,535
Speaker 5: our houses and how we do our insulation. You know,

958
00:53:55,615 --> 00:53:57,815
Speaker 5: in fact, you don't need our six point six in

959
00:53:57,815 --> 00:54:02,495
Speaker 5: the ceiling. You could achieve the required number by using

960
00:54:03,375 --> 00:54:08,375
Speaker 5: better insulation somewhere, maybe some slightly smaller windows, better quality

961
00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:12,575
Speaker 5: double glazing, lowy, more energy efficient glazing. Da da da

962
00:54:12,615 --> 00:54:14,575
Speaker 5: da da da da da da. And then suddenly you

963
00:54:14,615 --> 00:54:16,935
Speaker 5: find that actually the requirement the ceiling might be four

964
00:54:16,935 --> 00:54:19,335
Speaker 5: point two or you know, I'm just picking some numbers out.

965
00:54:19,375 --> 00:54:21,935
Speaker 5: But what it does do is say that we need

966
00:54:21,975 --> 00:54:24,815
Speaker 5: to be a bit more nuanced about how we do

967
00:54:25,255 --> 00:54:29,935
Speaker 5: the assessment of our buildings, and that something as blunt

968
00:54:29,935 --> 00:54:33,615
Speaker 5: as the schedule method is probably not that useful anymore,

969
00:54:33,655 --> 00:54:37,415
Speaker 5: and now that more and more people are working in

970
00:54:37,455 --> 00:54:39,895
Speaker 5: the space, the cost has come down, which is great.

971
00:54:41,575 --> 00:54:45,575
Speaker 4: Well, theoretically a house could be modeled on the scheduling

972
00:54:45,615 --> 00:54:49,655
Speaker 4: type method and then also done the other way is

973
00:54:49,735 --> 00:54:53,255
Speaker 4: what you've mentioned here, the modeling. So over the lifetime

974
00:54:53,375 --> 00:54:56,415
Speaker 4: of a house or building, you could actually work out

975
00:54:56,455 --> 00:54:57,695
Speaker 4: how much energy has saved.

976
00:54:58,695 --> 00:55:01,655
Speaker 5: Yes, you could do some extrapolation from the figures and

977
00:55:01,695 --> 00:55:05,215
Speaker 5: go okay, So if we know, for example, that there

978
00:55:05,295 --> 00:55:08,975
Speaker 5: is this much heat in a building because we've constructed

979
00:55:09,015 --> 00:55:12,335
Speaker 5: in this manner, and then we constructed in a slightly

980
00:55:12,495 --> 00:55:14,975
Speaker 5: different manner, which means that we have lower heat loss,

981
00:55:15,055 --> 00:55:19,415
Speaker 5: and then we can calculate I couldn't, but other people could,

982
00:55:19,495 --> 00:55:23,935
Speaker 5: I'm sure calculate that. Well, if that heat loss equates

983
00:55:23,975 --> 00:55:28,055
Speaker 5: to this many kilowatts of energy used to achieve the

984
00:55:28,655 --> 00:55:32,175
Speaker 5: desired temperature, and then we can calculate the cost of that,

985
00:55:32,255 --> 00:55:35,255
Speaker 5: and then we can, like I say, extrapolate that over time. Yeah,

986
00:55:35,255 --> 00:55:38,815
Speaker 5: you could make some estimates about what amount you might

987
00:55:38,895 --> 00:55:44,135
Speaker 5: save over time, but certainly now and you know, if

988
00:55:44,135 --> 00:55:45,935
Speaker 5: you start, if you do a bit of a search

989
00:55:45,975 --> 00:55:49,055
Speaker 5: around sort of energy efficient homes or people who are

990
00:55:49,055 --> 00:55:51,455
Speaker 5: doing passive home or low energy homes and that sort

991
00:55:51,495 --> 00:55:54,415
Speaker 5: of thing. You know, there's plenty of evidence now where

992
00:55:54,415 --> 00:55:57,295
Speaker 5: people are saying, look, my power bills are less than

993
00:55:57,375 --> 00:55:59,335
Speaker 5: half of what they used to be in a more

994
00:55:59,375 --> 00:56:03,015
Speaker 5: conventional home. And a project that I went and visited

995
00:56:03,655 --> 00:56:08,455
Speaker 5: just at the end of last year where a family

996
00:56:08,495 --> 00:56:11,375
Speaker 5: have committed themselves to a sort of a deep retrofit

997
00:56:11,455 --> 00:56:14,255
Speaker 5: of an existing house where they're going to take a

998
00:56:14,335 --> 00:56:17,495
Speaker 5: nineteen fifties house which is probably you know, has no

999
00:56:17,615 --> 00:56:22,135
Speaker 5: building rap, has no insulation in exterior walls, has single glazing,

1000
00:56:22,255 --> 00:56:24,895
Speaker 5: there's lots of gaps around the joinery and all that

1001
00:56:24,935 --> 00:56:26,495
Speaker 5: sort of thing, and they're going to do a deep

1002
00:56:26,575 --> 00:56:30,775
Speaker 5: retrofit to that in order to bring it up to

1003
00:56:31,175 --> 00:56:33,695
Speaker 5: beyond the building code. So that's going to be a

1004
00:56:33,695 --> 00:56:34,775
Speaker 5: fascinating one to watch.

1005
00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:36,335
Speaker 4: It will be.

1006
00:56:36,815 --> 00:56:37,855
Speaker 5: So it is possible.

1007
00:56:39,495 --> 00:56:43,455
Speaker 4: All of the quiry is to the fact that if

1008
00:56:43,495 --> 00:56:46,815
Speaker 4: we can have energy products along that line that are

1009
00:56:46,975 --> 00:56:50,535
Speaker 4: certified to save the country's energy over the sext period

1010
00:56:50,535 --> 00:56:53,455
Speaker 4: of time of the building, if why can't that be

1011
00:56:53,575 --> 00:56:55,215
Speaker 4: GST three.

1012
00:56:57,295 --> 00:57:00,655
Speaker 5: Ye, And look, that would be a great thing in

1013
00:57:00,655 --> 00:57:02,935
Speaker 5: the same way as reading some and I mean look

1014
00:57:03,015 --> 00:57:06,015
Speaker 5: that broadly speaking fits into the category of you know,

1015
00:57:06,055 --> 00:57:08,735
Speaker 5: if there is a public good, should there be essentially

1016
00:57:08,775 --> 00:57:11,655
Speaker 5: a government discount on it? Right? And what you're saying

1017
00:57:11,735 --> 00:57:14,415
Speaker 5: is that if you're buying products in order to make

1018
00:57:14,415 --> 00:57:17,735
Speaker 5: a building better, and that's a good for the community,

1019
00:57:18,175 --> 00:57:20,775
Speaker 5: should you then receive a discount or some sort of rebate.

1020
00:57:21,055 --> 00:57:24,935
Speaker 5: And I agree, But imagine the bureaucracy involved in trying

1021
00:57:24,935 --> 00:57:27,335
Speaker 5: to figure out that if I buy a roll of

1022
00:57:27,375 --> 00:57:29,495
Speaker 5: tape and I'm using it in my house and it's

1023
00:57:29,495 --> 00:57:31,735
Speaker 5: not energy efficient. You buy a roll of tape and

1024
00:57:31,735 --> 00:57:34,775
Speaker 5: you're building an energy efficient house that somehow you don't

1025
00:57:34,775 --> 00:57:38,215
Speaker 5: pay the GST and I do. And you know, in

1026
00:57:38,255 --> 00:57:41,295
Speaker 5: the same way, I think that savings for our superannuation

1027
00:57:41,375 --> 00:57:43,695
Speaker 5: should be tax free, but they're not in New Zealand.

1028
00:57:44,975 --> 00:57:46,815
Speaker 4: Very well, you know what I mean.

1029
00:57:46,935 --> 00:57:50,815
Speaker 5: You know, that's the argument, that's the big political financial

1030
00:57:50,895 --> 00:57:53,735
Speaker 5: argument that you're talking about there. Let's just do it

1031
00:57:53,815 --> 00:57:56,815
Speaker 5: because it's the right thing to do, and let's encourage

1032
00:57:56,815 --> 00:57:59,215
Speaker 5: other people to build better in the hope that we

1033
00:57:59,335 --> 00:58:02,495
Speaker 5: end up with buildings that are warm, dry, comfortable, in

1034
00:58:02,535 --> 00:58:04,375
Speaker 5: which case the first thing they should do is look

1035
00:58:04,415 --> 00:58:07,175
Speaker 5: after the inhabitants of it, and then we don't have

1036
00:58:07,255 --> 00:58:10,855
Speaker 5: generations of kids with bloody glue air and getting sick

1037
00:58:10,935 --> 00:58:13,215
Speaker 5: and taking time off school and all the rest of it.

1038
00:58:13,255 --> 00:58:15,775
Speaker 5: So if we increase the quality of our housing, will

1039
00:58:15,815 --> 00:58:19,815
Speaker 5: achieve that. And then also looking forward to a sort

1040
00:58:19,855 --> 00:58:22,455
Speaker 5: of using less energy in the future. If our houses

1041
00:58:22,455 --> 00:58:28,895
Speaker 5: are more efficient energy wise, then we will use less energy. Great,

1042
00:58:29,015 --> 00:58:30,415
Speaker 5: and then maybe if we can work on the waste

1043
00:58:30,655 --> 00:58:34,815
Speaker 5: we've got at sust radio nice look to be fair,

1044
00:58:34,975 --> 00:58:36,335
Speaker 5: I'm going to have a rant because I saw this

1045
00:58:36,415 --> 00:58:39,775
Speaker 5: story before it was online about Rhythm and Vines, right,

1046
00:58:39,815 --> 00:58:43,375
Speaker 5: this music festival that's been on, and then they've got

1047
00:58:43,575 --> 00:58:46,735
Speaker 5: this enormous crowd of volunteers and they think it'll take

1048
00:58:46,815 --> 00:58:52,255
Speaker 5: two weeks to clean up two weeks of waste that

1049
00:58:52,735 --> 00:58:54,615
Speaker 5: people have to go and clean up. Now they're doing

1050
00:58:54,655 --> 00:58:56,775
Speaker 5: it for charity and all the rest. That's great, But

1051
00:58:56,895 --> 00:59:00,375
Speaker 5: that twenty thousand people leave behind so much rubbish that

1052
00:59:00,375 --> 00:59:02,495
Speaker 5: it takes other people two weeks, that's appalling.

1053
00:59:04,135 --> 00:59:06,055
Speaker 4: I totally agree on that one too.

1054
00:59:06,375 --> 00:59:08,655
Speaker 5: Probably the same young people walking down the streets wanting

1055
00:59:08,655 --> 00:59:12,455
Speaker 5: to get us all driving electric cars or something. Anyway, Yeah, right,

1056
00:59:13,055 --> 00:59:15,135
Speaker 5: someone was criticizing me the other day for having too

1057
00:59:15,175 --> 00:59:18,535
Speaker 5: many political rants, but it all ties together. Lovely to

1058
00:59:18,575 --> 00:59:21,655
Speaker 5: talk to you, Brian, You have a fantastic day, all

1059
00:59:21,695 --> 00:59:23,655
Speaker 5: the best mate to take care. Oh eight hundred and

1060
00:59:23,655 --> 00:59:26,215
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? How do I?

1061
00:59:26,655 --> 00:59:29,295
Speaker 5: How do I glue tiles on top of tiles with

1062
00:59:29,415 --> 00:59:33,455
Speaker 5: tile adhesive? Basically you may need to sort of deglaze

1063
00:59:33,495 --> 00:59:37,255
Speaker 5: the surface of the tile, so with an embrace of

1064
00:59:37,855 --> 00:59:40,135
Speaker 5: disk or something like it, just so you can get

1065
00:59:40,175 --> 00:59:43,935
Speaker 5: some king in. But it's not uncommon to tile over tiles.

1066
00:59:43,975 --> 00:59:46,975
Speaker 5: As long as the ones that are on are in

1067
00:59:47,095 --> 00:59:49,775
Speaker 5: really good condition and they're well bonded, then yes, you

1068
00:59:49,855 --> 00:59:52,855
Speaker 5: can tile over the top of tiles. Would I do

1069
00:59:52,895 --> 00:59:55,335
Speaker 5: it in a shower, I'm not sure that I would.

1070
00:59:55,495 --> 00:59:57,415
Speaker 5: Would I do it in a splashback, for example, in

1071
00:59:57,455 --> 01:00:01,215
Speaker 5: a kitchen where it's a bit less critical, Yeah? Probably.

1072
01:00:01,575 --> 01:00:04,295
Speaker 5: You just have to be really confident in a wet

1073
01:00:04,415 --> 01:00:08,575
Speaker 5: area like a shower that the waterproofing's in really good

1074
01:00:08,575 --> 01:00:10,975
Speaker 5: condition as well. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten

1075
01:00:11,055 --> 01:00:13,375
Speaker 5: eighty the number back in a moment to talk to Tony.

1076
01:00:13,415 --> 01:00:17,775
Speaker 1: Measure twice, cut once, but maybe call peat first Feeder

1077
01:00:17,855 --> 01:00:21,895
Speaker 1: Wolfcap the resident builder with light four solar save power

1078
01:00:21,895 --> 01:00:25,335
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five and earn airpoints dollars us talks.

1079
01:00:25,375 --> 01:00:25,615
Speaker 1: It be.

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01:00:27,335 --> 01:00:29,695
Speaker 5: Just a quick text on stormwater that came through a

1081
01:00:29,695 --> 01:00:32,855
Speaker 5: moment ago Hollo pete talking stormwater. Can I put my

1082
01:00:32,975 --> 01:00:36,855
Speaker 5: own roof runoff pipe down onto a driveway to put

1083
01:00:36,855 --> 01:00:40,455
Speaker 5: it into the council street footpath channel that's going to

1084
01:00:40,455 --> 01:00:43,495
Speaker 5: be put in. Can it be partially run above ground

1085
01:00:43,535 --> 01:00:45,815
Speaker 5: to affect the appropriate fall? It must or must it

1086
01:00:45,895 --> 01:00:51,135
Speaker 5: be buried which would require a bubble sump somewhere from David,

1087
01:00:51,695 --> 01:00:55,335
Speaker 5: thanks for your text. Look, I think that you need

1088
01:00:55,415 --> 01:00:59,175
Speaker 5: to control the stormwater on your property, within your property.

1089
01:00:59,615 --> 01:01:01,935
Speaker 5: So allowing the storm water to drop down onto the

1090
01:01:02,055 --> 01:01:06,015
Speaker 5: driveway and then flood out into the council storm water

1091
01:01:06,375 --> 01:01:09,495
Speaker 5: the curb, whether that's on the pavement and there's sort

1092
01:01:09,495 --> 01:01:12,815
Speaker 5: of a channel grate running along the pavement, or whether

1093
01:01:12,855 --> 01:01:16,215
Speaker 5: it's into the curb, I don't think would be acceptable.

1094
01:01:17,495 --> 01:01:21,495
Speaker 5: So yeah, if you don't have storm water on your

1095
01:01:21,495 --> 01:01:24,815
Speaker 5: own property, then obviously that's quite a big undertaking to

1096
01:01:25,335 --> 01:01:28,015
Speaker 5: put that in and to make a connection to the

1097
01:01:28,015 --> 01:01:31,055
Speaker 5: public storm water line if there is one nearby, and

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01:01:31,135 --> 01:01:35,575
Speaker 5: in some cases there aren't, but in general, the idea

1099
01:01:35,615 --> 01:01:38,295
Speaker 5: of just having your downpipe flooding onto the ground and

1100
01:01:38,335 --> 01:01:40,575
Speaker 5: then running outside of the property. I mean, if you've

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01:01:40,615 --> 01:01:43,215
Speaker 5: got a decent long driveway. In some cases we've had

1102
01:01:43,255 --> 01:01:45,895
Speaker 5: to do it where we're actually installing a channel grate

1103
01:01:46,735 --> 01:01:50,615
Speaker 5: inside the boundary so on the private property to catch

1104
01:01:50,695 --> 01:01:54,695
Speaker 5: any runoff from the driveway, so that's not allowed to

1105
01:01:54,855 --> 01:01:58,095
Speaker 5: go out onto the curb discharge as well. So if

1106
01:01:58,095 --> 01:02:01,735
Speaker 5: we're doing that just for groundwater or for surface water,

1107
01:02:01,775 --> 01:02:07,255
Speaker 5: effectively that forms falls on an impermeable surface because of

1108
01:02:07,295 --> 01:02:10,415
Speaker 5: the volume, then you're having the volume that collects on

1109
01:02:10,455 --> 01:02:13,295
Speaker 5: your roof going out onto the road in an uncontrolled

1110
01:02:13,295 --> 01:02:16,375
Speaker 5: way like that. No, I don't think that's per missile.

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01:02:17,495 --> 01:02:19,215
Speaker 5: And talk there in the text as well of a

1112
01:02:19,215 --> 01:02:24,415
Speaker 5: bubble sump. This is kind of a new thing. If

1113
01:02:24,455 --> 01:02:26,735
Speaker 5: anyone's got any questions, feel free to call through. It's

1114
01:02:26,815 --> 01:02:29,535
Speaker 5: quite an interesting little idea that's starting to come around.

1115
01:02:29,615 --> 01:02:33,055
Speaker 5: This is all about sort of dealing with sudden overflows

1116
01:02:33,135 --> 01:02:37,895
Speaker 5: of where the stormwater system, your own private one is inundated.

1117
01:02:38,255 --> 01:02:40,975
Speaker 5: What happens to the excess, and that's where this bubble

1118
01:02:41,015 --> 01:02:45,055
Speaker 5: sumps are becoming quite quite common. I've never put one

1119
01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:48,935
Speaker 5: in yet, but undoubtedly it will come along in some state.

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01:02:49,175 --> 01:02:50,935
Speaker 5: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty the number

1121
01:02:50,975 --> 01:02:54,135
Speaker 5: to call. Join us if you wish. The lines are open. Tony,

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01:02:54,215 --> 01:02:57,175
Speaker 5: good morning, Good morning, Pete morning.

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01:02:59,015 --> 01:02:59,895
Speaker 13: An installation one?

1124
01:02:59,975 --> 01:03:00,255
Speaker 9: Were you.

1125
01:03:03,735 --> 01:03:04,815
Speaker 13: Nineteen sixties?

1126
01:03:05,015 --> 01:03:05,295
Speaker 5: Yep?

1127
01:03:08,215 --> 01:03:14,495
Speaker 13: No building rap, single blazing. I've got the glazing who

1128
01:03:14,495 --> 01:03:18,975
Speaker 13: has just been finished? Of insulated ceilings and under floor yep.

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01:03:20,135 --> 01:03:24,615
Speaker 13: Now I would like to put a building wrap plus

1130
01:03:26,015 --> 01:03:36,015
Speaker 13: wall insulation. I've removed the lining jib yep. What would

1131
01:03:36,095 --> 01:03:39,335
Speaker 13: be a good or I'm not fasted on putting jib back. Oh,

1132
01:03:39,335 --> 01:03:42,015
Speaker 13: it would be a good alternative to jib with a

1133
01:03:42,015 --> 01:03:42,775
Speaker 13: good A rating.

1134
01:03:43,415 --> 01:03:46,735
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I don't know that I want to rely

1135
01:03:46,855 --> 01:03:49,575
Speaker 5: on my lining to give me my insulation or my

1136
01:03:49,735 --> 01:03:55,855
Speaker 5: R value. Right And I can see the text coming

1137
01:03:55,855 --> 01:03:58,375
Speaker 5: in in a second. But I've got to say this.

1138
01:03:59,815 --> 01:04:02,375
Speaker 5: Have you got a building consent for the retrofitting of

1139
01:04:02,375 --> 01:04:04,575
Speaker 5: insulation into existing exterior walls?

1140
01:04:06,855 --> 01:04:07,055
Speaker 1: No?

1141
01:04:07,455 --> 01:04:12,855
Speaker 5: Right, Currently it is a requirement to have a building

1142
01:04:12,895 --> 01:04:19,015
Speaker 5: consent for retrofiting insulation into exterior walls. I'm just telling

1143
01:04:19,015 --> 01:04:21,455
Speaker 5: you that what you do with that information is completely

1144
01:04:21,535 --> 01:04:25,575
Speaker 5: up to you. So, and what's the cladding on the

1145
01:04:25,615 --> 01:04:27,615
Speaker 5: exterior of the building with.

1146
01:04:27,655 --> 01:04:30,575
Speaker 13: The balls split block, oh, split block.

1147
01:04:31,855 --> 01:04:35,095
Speaker 5: Okay, so when if you as you have done, you've

1148
01:04:35,095 --> 01:04:37,335
Speaker 5: taken the interior lining off, so what you see is

1149
01:04:37,335 --> 01:04:40,855
Speaker 5: some timber framing, no building rap on the outside, and

1150
01:04:40,895 --> 01:04:43,415
Speaker 5: then you've got a cavity and then you've got your

1151
01:04:43,415 --> 01:04:48,295
Speaker 5: brick work right. So, yeah, you do want to do something,

1152
01:04:48,535 --> 01:04:50,575
Speaker 5: You've got a couple of options. One is to use

1153
01:04:51,055 --> 01:04:53,895
Speaker 5: a product similar like Autex green stuff, right, which is

1154
01:04:53,935 --> 01:05:00,415
Speaker 5: self supporting. So if you were to do use that insulation,

1155
01:05:00,655 --> 01:05:03,575
Speaker 5: you wouldn't really have to worry too much about putting

1156
01:05:04,455 --> 01:05:11,295
Speaker 5: a building rap at the back of it. So I mean, look,

1157
01:05:11,295 --> 01:05:13,495
Speaker 5: the building wrap would help a little bit in terms

1158
01:05:13,775 --> 01:05:16,935
Speaker 5: of stopping drafts. So if you were to be really

1159
01:05:16,975 --> 01:05:20,575
Speaker 5: fastidious about cutting pieces of building paper and stapling it

1160
01:05:20,615 --> 01:05:23,015
Speaker 5: to the inside of each of the little cavities that

1161
01:05:23,095 --> 01:05:26,815
Speaker 5: created by studs and nogs, right, so all of those rectangles,

1162
01:05:27,895 --> 01:05:30,895
Speaker 5: and that will help with reducing draft and then you

1163
01:05:30,895 --> 01:05:35,535
Speaker 5: could push the insulation against that. It's worth doing, but

1164
01:05:35,815 --> 01:05:38,895
Speaker 5: it is quite time consuming. If you didn't want to

1165
01:05:38,935 --> 01:05:40,775
Speaker 5: do that, but you did want to put insulation in,

1166
01:05:41,895 --> 01:05:45,335
Speaker 5: then I would use something like autech screen stuff possibly

1167
01:05:45,335 --> 01:05:48,495
Speaker 5: mammoth as well. Both of those are quite dense and

1168
01:05:48,535 --> 01:05:51,815
Speaker 5: self supporting. And then redo the lining and look, you

1169
01:05:51,815 --> 01:05:54,335
Speaker 5: could use plasterboard if you want, you could use plywood,

1170
01:05:54,415 --> 01:05:57,975
Speaker 5: you could use triboard. There's any number of products that

1171
01:05:57,975 --> 01:06:00,055
Speaker 5: you could use. But I wouldn't rely on the lining

1172
01:06:00,175 --> 01:06:04,095
Speaker 5: unless you were using something like kingspan, which is polystyrene

1173
01:06:04,135 --> 01:06:09,055
Speaker 5: bonded to plasterboard. But the benefit of that product is

1174
01:06:09,095 --> 01:06:12,295
Speaker 5: that you could apply it straight over your existing lining.

1175
01:06:12,815 --> 01:06:16,255
Speaker 5: Therefore you're not removing the lining. Therefore you don't require

1176
01:06:16,255 --> 01:06:19,895
Speaker 5: a building consent for that. But that's that ship has sailed.

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01:06:21,295 --> 01:06:22,095
Speaker 13: Right, I get you.

1178
01:06:22,335 --> 01:06:27,095
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yep, and look what you know the benefit

1179
01:06:27,135 --> 01:06:30,815
Speaker 5: of So you've done? Have you done retrofit double glazing

1180
01:06:30,895 --> 01:06:31,855
Speaker 5: for your joinery?

1181
01:06:34,535 --> 01:06:34,735
Speaker 4: Yes?

1182
01:06:35,015 --> 01:06:37,855
Speaker 5: Okay, So if you are taking the lining off, it's

1183
01:06:37,855 --> 01:06:40,655
Speaker 5: also a great opportunity to do an air seal around

1184
01:06:40,695 --> 01:06:44,495
Speaker 5: your existing joinery. So typically, you know, older houses, we've

1185
01:06:44,495 --> 01:06:47,735
Speaker 5: got timber framing and framing for an opening. Then we've

1186
01:06:47,775 --> 01:06:49,895
Speaker 5: got our joinery sitting there and is often you know,

1187
01:06:49,935 --> 01:06:53,055
Speaker 5: ten fifteen twenty milimeter gap and that's that's where a

1188
01:06:53,135 --> 01:06:55,335
Speaker 5: lot of air leakage occurs as well. So if you've

1189
01:06:55,375 --> 01:06:57,975
Speaker 5: taken the lining off as we do in a modern house,

1190
01:06:58,095 --> 01:07:00,615
Speaker 5: go around and do an air seal around there as well.

1191
01:07:02,055 --> 01:07:03,535
Speaker 13: Oh here, yeah, yeah, good one, all.

1192
01:07:03,495 --> 01:07:05,615
Speaker 5: Right, all the very best your tony. Yep, good luck,

1193
01:07:05,815 --> 01:07:06,815
Speaker 5: thank you very take care about it.

1194
01:07:06,815 --> 01:07:07,215
Speaker 14: He hollo.

1195
01:07:07,535 --> 01:07:09,495
Speaker 5: Oh eight eighty the number to call.

1196
01:07:09,535 --> 01:07:14,575
Speaker 15: Hello Katie, Oh hello there morning, good morning.

1197
01:07:14,695 --> 01:07:15,575
Speaker 7: Now, I just.

1198
01:07:15,535 --> 01:07:18,655
Speaker 15: Wondered, we've we've got a little bit of a problem

1199
01:07:18,735 --> 01:07:22,975
Speaker 15: with the property that we own, and we've got a

1200
01:07:23,095 --> 01:07:29,815
Speaker 15: neighbor who four years has been draining his stormwater into

1201
01:07:29,855 --> 01:07:34,655
Speaker 15: our property. Right, so we've asked him a couple of

1202
01:07:34,655 --> 01:07:38,295
Speaker 15: times to fix it three or four years past, nothing

1203
01:07:38,375 --> 01:07:41,335
Speaker 15: had done about it. Then we rung the council to

1204
01:07:41,375 --> 01:07:43,175
Speaker 15: do something about it. They told us it was a

1205
01:07:43,215 --> 01:07:43,935
Speaker 15: neighbor's bitch.

1206
01:07:45,415 --> 01:07:48,375
Speaker 5: They shouldn't that's that they shouldn't. True.

1207
01:07:48,695 --> 01:07:49,495
Speaker 14: Yeah wow.

1208
01:07:49,615 --> 01:07:52,215
Speaker 15: And then so the council went out to have a look.

1209
01:07:52,655 --> 01:07:55,295
Speaker 15: Then the council people changed and there was a whole

1210
01:07:55,295 --> 01:07:59,535
Speaker 15: lot of change in the in the hierarchies. So those

1211
01:07:59,575 --> 01:08:03,055
Speaker 15: people who told us that were no longer there. And

1212
01:08:03,095 --> 01:08:05,455
Speaker 15: then this truth and who's a local in the area

1213
01:08:07,255 --> 01:08:11,575
Speaker 15: has you know, continue to just like ignore us, and

1214
01:08:11,655 --> 01:08:14,135
Speaker 15: so then he goes. We arrive at the property and

1215
01:08:14,255 --> 01:08:20,335
Speaker 15: he's connected up a big wide white pipe which is

1216
01:08:20,375 --> 01:08:22,575
Speaker 15: like leading to a black hose that comes out from

1217
01:08:22,615 --> 01:08:25,735
Speaker 15: his property into this big white pipe and then he

1218
01:08:25,815 --> 01:08:28,775
Speaker 15: drains it into the council's river race.

1219
01:08:30,495 --> 01:08:36,495
Speaker 5: And he got consent for that work. I presume, no, no, no, no, nothing,

1220
01:08:36,575 --> 01:08:37,375
Speaker 5: He's got nothing.

1221
01:08:37,455 --> 01:08:40,575
Speaker 15: He just turns a blind eye. And then we found

1222
01:08:40,615 --> 01:08:44,935
Speaker 15: after all the rain that the pipe had popped out,

1223
01:08:45,655 --> 01:08:48,095
Speaker 15: and so it was just pouring straight into our yard

1224
01:08:48,735 --> 01:08:53,215
Speaker 15: behind our garage. And so now there's about five inches

1225
01:08:53,655 --> 01:08:58,775
Speaker 15: of wet cray right next to our garage. And he

1226
01:08:58,895 --> 01:09:01,415
Speaker 15: just continues to ignore us, and we just feel that

1227
01:09:01,455 --> 01:09:05,055
Speaker 15: the council was ignoring us as well, you know, and

1228
01:09:05,135 --> 01:09:08,415
Speaker 15: we just think we go to our insurance company because

1229
01:09:08,975 --> 01:09:11,575
Speaker 15: our garage, even though it's been there for absolute years

1230
01:09:11,575 --> 01:09:15,215
Speaker 15: before we bought the property, the whole roof of the

1231
01:09:15,255 --> 01:09:22,735
Speaker 15: garage is rusted. It doesn't mean that won't be with stormwater, right,

1232
01:09:22,775 --> 01:09:26,295
Speaker 15: I just thought maybe the condensation, the wetness or no,

1233
01:09:26,375 --> 01:09:28,775
Speaker 15: I don't think anythink may have had some of linking.

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01:09:29,215 --> 01:09:31,735
Speaker 5: Even if it did contribute, it would be very difficult

1235
01:09:31,775 --> 01:09:35,615
Speaker 5: to prove look, I get the frustration. I think that,

1236
01:09:36,455 --> 01:09:41,015
Speaker 5: you know, councils probably should be a little bit stronger

1237
01:09:41,135 --> 01:09:43,495
Speaker 5: in their enforcement of the sort of thing, particularly in

1238
01:09:43,615 --> 01:09:44,175
Speaker 5: urban areas.

1239
01:09:44,255 --> 01:09:44,415
Speaker 6: Right.

1240
01:09:44,815 --> 01:09:47,695
Speaker 5: And it's it's quite clear in the legislation that it

1241
01:09:47,775 --> 01:09:50,655
Speaker 5: is a requirement of a homeowner to control storm water

1242
01:09:50,815 --> 01:09:57,095
Speaker 5: from their own property and that in yeah, so, and

1243
01:09:57,615 --> 01:10:01,895
Speaker 5: when you get an intransient neighbor like this who just

1244
01:10:02,015 --> 01:10:08,335
Speaker 5: refuses to cooperate or refuses to comply as much as

1245
01:10:08,415 --> 01:10:11,935
Speaker 5: you know, on betwixt and between in terms of you know,

1246
01:10:12,135 --> 01:10:14,975
Speaker 5: legislation and bureaucracy and council and enforcement and all the

1247
01:10:15,015 --> 01:10:16,895
Speaker 5: rest of it, but you do wish that they would

1248
01:10:16,895 --> 01:10:18,655
Speaker 5: take us strong because you know, it has a real

1249
01:10:18,655 --> 01:10:20,895
Speaker 5: impact on you, right, you know, every time you get

1250
01:10:21,015 --> 01:10:23,455
Speaker 5: a lot of rain, you end up copying something that

1251
01:10:23,495 --> 01:10:26,695
Speaker 5: should be controlled by your neighbor. It's not that hard,

1252
01:10:27,335 --> 01:10:29,415
Speaker 5: and it's a pity that these things aren't enforced. But

1253
01:10:29,535 --> 01:10:32,535
Speaker 5: of course enforcement is really difficult as well, because.

1254
01:10:33,015 --> 01:10:36,135
Speaker 15: How enforcement you know, how far can we go? And

1255
01:10:36,215 --> 01:10:38,335
Speaker 15: we don't want to well say that, you.

1256
01:10:38,255 --> 01:10:42,375
Speaker 5: Know, there have been situations. Again, I'm aware of a

1257
01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:47,135
Speaker 5: situation where council did a survey of drainage on a property,

1258
01:10:47,415 --> 01:10:50,855
Speaker 5: found that it was defective and issued a notice to fix, right,

1259
01:10:51,175 --> 01:10:54,775
Speaker 5: and then they said in that notice to fix, you

1260
01:10:54,855 --> 01:10:57,655
Speaker 5: have fourteen days to prove that you have done something

1261
01:10:57,655 --> 01:11:00,935
Speaker 5: about this, after which we will send a contractor to

1262
01:11:00,975 --> 01:11:03,135
Speaker 5: do the work and you will have to pay it

1263
01:11:03,215 --> 01:11:05,495
Speaker 5: and will charge you an extra ten percent on top

1264
01:11:05,535 --> 01:11:07,575
Speaker 5: of that bill. We don't know what the bill's going

1265
01:11:07,615 --> 01:11:09,335
Speaker 5: to be, but whatever it costs, we're going to get

1266
01:11:09,375 --> 01:11:13,015
Speaker 5: it fixed and you're going to pay for it. Now

1267
01:11:13,375 --> 01:11:19,895
Speaker 5: that sounds quite stern again, Council being council. Some years later,

1268
01:11:20,415 --> 01:11:22,655
Speaker 5: no one had turned up to do the repair, and

1269
01:11:22,975 --> 01:11:27,535
Speaker 5: the repair hadn't been done. So that's really frustrating saying that.

1270
01:11:27,575 --> 01:11:31,055
Speaker 5: There does seem to be certainly an Auckland a bit

1271
01:11:31,095 --> 01:11:36,255
Speaker 5: of a change, and I'm aware of so with an

1272
01:11:36,255 --> 01:11:39,895
Speaker 5: Auckland Council. Now there is Healthy Waters, which is kind

1273
01:11:39,895 --> 01:11:46,055
Speaker 5: of a division within council that deals specifically with stormwater right,

1274
01:11:46,415 --> 01:11:48,655
Speaker 5: and one of the things one of the initiatives they've

1275
01:11:48,655 --> 01:11:52,775
Speaker 5: had is to actually send people out to do like

1276
01:11:52,815 --> 01:11:55,655
Speaker 5: a walking survey of a neighborhood and look at a

1277
01:11:55,695 --> 01:11:58,015
Speaker 5: property and go, oh, hey, look, I've noticed that those

1278
01:11:58,055 --> 01:12:01,975
Speaker 5: downpipes actually just drop onto the ground, knock on the door. Hey,

1279
01:12:02,095 --> 01:12:04,575
Speaker 5: are you aware that your downpipes don't connect to the

1280
01:12:04,615 --> 01:12:07,535
Speaker 5: stormwater system at all? And maybe you'd like some help

1281
01:12:07,535 --> 01:12:09,455
Speaker 5: to fix that, or maybe you'd like some ideas and

1282
01:12:09,495 --> 01:12:12,135
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. So they're actually being proactive. Now.

1283
01:12:12,175 --> 01:12:15,495
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're in Auckland, but are you.

1284
01:12:15,775 --> 01:12:16,935
Speaker 15: No on the South Island?

1285
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Speaker 9: All right?

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01:12:17,335 --> 01:12:22,055
Speaker 5: South Island? Yeah. Look, I find it incredibly frustrating because

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01:12:22,135 --> 01:12:24,895
Speaker 5: you know, it is a real issue for you. It's

1288
01:12:25,015 --> 01:12:28,695
Speaker 5: not just you being grumpy or being pedantic or anything

1289
01:12:28,735 --> 01:12:31,055
Speaker 5: like that. This is real, right. Every time you have

1290
01:12:31,095 --> 01:12:32,575
Speaker 5: heavy rain, you're copying it and it.

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Speaker 15: Actually looks ugly. And I did think that if we

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01:12:36,215 --> 01:12:38,175
Speaker 15: had a problem with them, and we went to the

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01:12:38,215 --> 01:12:42,175
Speaker 15: council and we started engaging with the council for our

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01:12:42,175 --> 01:12:44,815
Speaker 15: neighbors to do something, would that be something that would

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01:12:44,815 --> 01:12:48,255
Speaker 15: appear on our limb report or anything like that if

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01:12:48,295 --> 01:12:49,455
Speaker 15: we were to sell the property.

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Speaker 5: I would like to think that any correspondence that you

1298
01:12:52,695 --> 01:12:57,495
Speaker 5: send regarding your neighbor's property would stay on the neighbor's

1299
01:12:57,535 --> 01:12:59,815
Speaker 5: property file, but it shouldn't be on yours, but it

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01:12:59,855 --> 01:13:02,095
Speaker 5: would be on the neighbor's property file. So if you

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01:13:02,335 --> 01:13:05,135
Speaker 5: request like a property bag or a property file from council,

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01:13:05,535 --> 01:13:09,855
Speaker 5: it will have all correspondence relating to that property. Okay,

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01:13:10,255 --> 01:13:11,015
Speaker 5: that's quite.

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01:13:10,895 --> 01:13:15,935
Speaker 15: Useful, right, Okay, yeah, I might look into that, have

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01:13:15,935 --> 01:13:17,175
Speaker 15: a look at it next week.

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01:13:17,455 --> 01:13:17,895
Speaker 8: Good luck.

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01:13:17,935 --> 01:13:22,575
Speaker 5: I know it's frustrated, brilliant. Yeah, alrighty all this Bob

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01:13:23,455 --> 01:13:25,455
Speaker 5: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call

1309
01:13:25,495 --> 01:13:27,455
Speaker 5: if you've got a building question, and you know, I

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01:13:27,455 --> 01:13:30,735
Speaker 5: mean we do kind of that's stray. Actually, I think

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01:13:30,775 --> 01:13:33,735
Speaker 5: it's really important that we understand the legislation sometimes and

1312
01:13:33,775 --> 01:13:37,695
Speaker 5: we we get into these discussions around I guess policy

1313
01:13:37,735 --> 01:13:42,375
Speaker 5: and legislation and regulations and requirements because they do impact

1314
01:13:42,415 --> 01:13:44,575
Speaker 5: on us. We'll talk to Doug and just a moment

1315
01:13:44,615 --> 01:13:45,895
Speaker 5: if you'd like to join us. We do have a

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01:13:45,895 --> 01:13:48,575
Speaker 5: loan spare. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call.

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01:13:50,615 --> 01:13:54,535
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floored get the right advice from

1318
01:13:54,615 --> 01:13:58,295
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare the resident builder with light four solar dot

1319
01:13:58,335 --> 01:14:01,095
Speaker 1: Co dot nzet switch to solar in twenty twenty five

1320
01:14:01,215 --> 01:14:03,055
Speaker 1: and pay less for power news talks.

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01:14:03,095 --> 01:14:05,935
Speaker 5: It'd be you and just talk. It'd be critiques Pete.

1322
01:14:05,935 --> 01:14:08,135
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about building a sleepout. I want to use

1323
01:14:08,135 --> 01:14:10,735
Speaker 5: a cavity batten on the exterior, which will have a

1324
01:14:10,855 --> 01:14:13,295
Speaker 5: vermin strip at the bottom of the wall. If I

1325
01:14:13,415 --> 01:14:16,495
Speaker 5: line the walls, the exterior walls with corrugated iron, how

1326
01:14:16,535 --> 01:14:21,055
Speaker 5: do I block off the corrugation so that bugs can't

1327
01:14:21,215 --> 01:14:23,535
Speaker 5: crawl up into the wall? Is there a product that

1328
01:14:23,575 --> 01:14:25,455
Speaker 5: blocks off the bottom of the iron, Yes, there is,

1329
01:14:26,895 --> 01:14:32,535
Speaker 5: so it's called basically, it's a foam infill strip. There'll

1330
01:14:32,535 --> 01:14:34,375
Speaker 5: be a number of different supplies. You can get them

1331
01:14:34,375 --> 01:14:36,415
Speaker 5: at all sorts of different hardware stores. That come in

1332
01:14:36,455 --> 01:14:38,695
Speaker 5: strips of about a meter long, and so they are

1333
01:14:38,695 --> 01:14:43,415
Speaker 5: a foam strip which is compressible. So you can either

1334
01:14:43,615 --> 01:14:45,895
Speaker 5: leave the bottom of the sheet loose for a moment,

1335
01:14:46,055 --> 01:14:49,415
Speaker 5: poke the strip up and then fix your fastener through,

1336
01:14:50,255 --> 01:14:51,895
Speaker 5: or you can try and staple it on and get

1337
01:14:51,895 --> 01:14:55,495
Speaker 5: the angles right. But I've done it myself, not hard

1338
01:14:55,535 --> 01:14:59,255
Speaker 5: to do, not terribly expensive, and that will stop bugs

1339
01:14:59,255 --> 01:15:01,215
Speaker 5: and not getting in at the bottom as well. So

1340
01:15:01,455 --> 01:15:04,655
Speaker 5: good luck with that corrugate a din as a cladding.

1341
01:15:04,655 --> 01:15:06,215
Speaker 5: I do kind of like it, I have to say.

1342
01:15:06,655 --> 01:15:09,455
Speaker 5: In the right situation. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1343
01:15:09,455 --> 01:15:12,255
Speaker 5: the number to call Doug. Good morning to you morning

1344
01:15:12,255 --> 01:15:14,135
Speaker 5: feet here you go, want good things about yourself?

1345
01:15:14,455 --> 01:15:15,375
Speaker 4: Good good good.

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01:15:16,055 --> 01:15:21,095
Speaker 14: Yeah, you're just just another question on it's not actually stormwater,

1347
01:15:21,135 --> 01:15:25,535
Speaker 14: but it's a neighbour's driveway yep. So when a neighbor's

1348
01:15:25,615 --> 01:15:31,575
Speaker 14: driveways put down, it's not supposed to create blowpath onto

1349
01:15:31,615 --> 01:15:37,375
Speaker 14: your onto the neighbor's property, right, So do they they

1350
01:15:37,415 --> 01:15:40,295
Speaker 14: have to control that with a cesspit or or whatever.

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01:15:40,495 --> 01:15:44,135
Speaker 5: Yeah. So typically, you know, because we're driveway's big flat area, right,

1352
01:15:44,535 --> 01:15:47,135
Speaker 5: water's got to go somewhere, So it should either have

1353
01:15:47,175 --> 01:15:50,815
Speaker 5: a curb or like a little dish, like a swale

1354
01:15:50,975 --> 01:15:54,655
Speaker 5: that's cast into the driveway. And then yes, that water

1355
01:15:55,215 --> 01:15:58,575
Speaker 5: typically should be contained before it exits the property. So

1356
01:15:59,175 --> 01:16:02,815
Speaker 5: either you shape the driveway and go into a catch

1357
01:16:02,855 --> 01:16:06,255
Speaker 5: pit or in some cases you put in channel great

1358
01:16:06,655 --> 01:16:10,855
Speaker 5: which also drops into a catch pit that's near the boundary.

1359
01:16:11,375 --> 01:16:15,375
Speaker 5: So yes, but certainly you know, a big flat driveway

1360
01:16:15,455 --> 01:16:19,215
Speaker 5: that just pitches towards your property and discharges all of

1361
01:16:19,255 --> 01:16:22,015
Speaker 5: that storm order onto your property, that shouldn't be acceptable.

1362
01:16:22,975 --> 01:16:26,095
Speaker 14: Yeah, and then that's what's diverted into the storm water

1363
01:16:26,215 --> 01:16:27,495
Speaker 14: out the front on the road.

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01:16:28,335 --> 01:16:31,015
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, there are probably requirements in terms

1365
01:16:31,055 --> 01:16:34,375
Speaker 5: of you know what area, what surface area that potentially

1366
01:16:34,375 --> 01:16:39,015
Speaker 5: a small surface area may not require that catchment, but

1367
01:16:39,135 --> 01:16:41,295
Speaker 5: a larger area because I mean it's you know, if

1368
01:16:41,335 --> 01:16:44,735
Speaker 5: you think about rainfall, right, and you know, ten millimeters

1369
01:16:44,735 --> 01:16:47,415
Speaker 5: per hour of rain and you've got one hundred square

1370
01:16:47,455 --> 01:16:53,535
Speaker 5: meters of concrete driveway, let's say it ends up being

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01:16:53,535 --> 01:16:58,375
Speaker 5: a significant amount of catchment. So yeah, it is a

1372
01:16:58,455 --> 01:17:00,015
Speaker 5: requirement as far as I'm aware.

1373
01:17:00,895 --> 01:17:03,335
Speaker 14: Yeah, because we've got we've just dealing with this one

1374
01:17:03,375 --> 01:17:12,135
Speaker 14: hundred year suppose of the flood. Yeah, so our property

1375
01:17:12,175 --> 01:17:16,055
Speaker 14: has they're looking at it as a flow path, yes,

1376
01:17:16,535 --> 01:17:21,895
Speaker 14: so yeah, and that and that equation is like neighbors

1377
01:17:21,975 --> 01:17:27,335
Speaker 14: properties the rainwater flowing from their driver onto ours which

1378
01:17:27,375 --> 01:17:28,375
Speaker 14: they need to control.

1379
01:17:28,775 --> 01:17:33,335
Speaker 5: Also, is this based on the older modeling or some

1380
01:17:33,415 --> 01:17:34,735
Speaker 5: of the more up to date modeling.

1381
01:17:35,895 --> 01:17:38,815
Speaker 14: Well, the flow path is up to the newer modeling,

1382
01:17:38,935 --> 01:17:44,495
Speaker 14: so that's within also not at this stage, but when

1383
01:17:44,535 --> 01:17:47,775
Speaker 14: they do a seventy percent coverage on all the properties

1384
01:17:47,815 --> 01:17:50,975
Speaker 14: with buildings, yep, then this is how the flow path

1385
01:17:51,095 --> 01:17:57,015
Speaker 14: is going to happen. So yeah, a little bit pie

1386
01:17:57,055 --> 01:18:01,735
Speaker 14: in the sky. But why do they want to create

1387
01:18:01,935 --> 01:18:04,935
Speaker 14: seventy percent coverage on all the properties when it's going

1388
01:18:04,975 --> 01:18:07,855
Speaker 14: to create float pass through a lot of properties in

1389
01:18:07,855 --> 01:18:08,335
Speaker 14: that area.

1390
01:18:10,895 --> 01:18:13,935
Speaker 5: Yeah, And therein is the dilemma, isn't it that you

1391
01:18:13,975 --> 01:18:17,175
Speaker 5: know we all well maybe we don't, but you know,

1392
01:18:17,255 --> 01:18:20,695
Speaker 5: I do think that in terms of urban development, we

1393
01:18:20,775 --> 01:18:25,495
Speaker 5: need to have intensification. So broadly speaking, I'm a supporter

1394
01:18:25,575 --> 01:18:29,135
Speaker 5: of it. But at the same time, we can't ignore

1395
01:18:29,255 --> 01:18:32,535
Speaker 5: the consequences of that. So you know, a large you know,

1396
01:18:32,575 --> 01:18:34,735
Speaker 5: and we've all seen it, right, You've got an eight

1397
01:18:34,775 --> 01:18:37,135
Speaker 5: hundred square meter section with one hundred and twenty square

1398
01:18:37,135 --> 01:18:39,815
Speaker 5: meter nineteen fifties house in the middle of it, lots

1399
01:18:39,815 --> 01:18:42,255
Speaker 5: of grass, da da, da, da da. And then that

1400
01:18:42,295 --> 01:18:45,655
Speaker 5: goes and suddenly there's four townhouses there and there's sixty

1401
01:18:45,695 --> 01:18:48,815
Speaker 5: seventy percent site coverage. Now, the impact of that is

1402
01:18:48,815 --> 01:18:51,135
Speaker 5: we're collecting a lot more stormwater that's got to go

1403
01:18:51,255 --> 01:18:54,695
Speaker 5: somewhere in the event that the storm water that's been

1404
01:18:54,775 --> 01:18:57,855
Speaker 5: provided doesn't cope with the downfall. And that's why we're

1405
01:18:57,855 --> 01:19:00,655
Speaker 5: talking one in one hundred year flood events, which is

1406
01:19:00,775 --> 01:19:04,695
Speaker 5: just a statistical thing, right, Because while I'm getting a

1407
01:19:04,695 --> 01:19:07,455
Speaker 5: bit older and I've got a few gray hairs. I'm

1408
01:19:07,455 --> 01:19:10,415
Speaker 5: not that old that I have been through I think

1409
01:19:10,415 --> 01:19:13,055
Speaker 5: at least four or five one in one hundred year

1410
01:19:13,095 --> 01:19:19,135
Speaker 5: flood events, right, So there is lots of modeling around

1411
01:19:19,135 --> 01:19:23,455
Speaker 5: what happens when we do get these more common intense

1412
01:19:23,535 --> 01:19:27,095
Speaker 5: downpause and the stormwater system doesn't cope. Where does that

1413
01:19:27,175 --> 01:19:29,975
Speaker 5: water go? Well, it becomes an overland flow path. So

1414
01:19:30,215 --> 01:19:32,135
Speaker 5: as part of the development, we need to think about

1415
01:19:32,215 --> 01:19:35,255
Speaker 5: the impact of those events. And the reason I asked

1416
01:19:35,255 --> 01:19:39,055
Speaker 5: about the whether or not it's the recent modeling, there's

1417
01:19:39,175 --> 01:19:43,295
Speaker 5: quite an extraordinary thing. Again, I'm sorry for referencing Auckland,

1418
01:19:43,295 --> 01:19:45,415
Speaker 5: but it's the council that I happen to live in

1419
01:19:47,135 --> 01:19:49,615
Speaker 5: and it's the tools that I get to use. So

1420
01:19:49,695 --> 01:19:52,935
Speaker 5: there's now i think it's called flood Viewer or something similar,

1421
01:19:53,335 --> 01:19:57,535
Speaker 5: which is using some of the data from the January

1422
01:19:57,575 --> 01:20:01,655
Speaker 5: twenty three flooding to see where flooding occurred. And so

1423
01:20:01,775 --> 01:20:04,695
Speaker 5: when you look at this flood viewer, I'm pretty sure

1424
01:20:04,695 --> 01:20:09,895
Speaker 5: it's called shows you the extent of where flooding occurred

1425
01:20:10,775 --> 01:20:12,815
Speaker 5: in a couple of areas that I'm quite familiar with.

1426
01:20:12,895 --> 01:20:17,295
Speaker 5: It's quite interesting to see that the real experience of

1427
01:20:17,335 --> 01:20:20,175
Speaker 5: that flood is showing on this flood view and you

1428
01:20:20,215 --> 01:20:23,055
Speaker 5: can see the extent of these overland flow path areas

1429
01:20:23,055 --> 01:20:25,335
Speaker 5: and that's probably what we're picking up on as well.

1430
01:20:26,335 --> 01:20:26,535
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1431
01:20:29,055 --> 01:20:32,895
Speaker 14: Funny enough, funny enough. No, we've never seen any any

1432
01:20:33,775 --> 01:20:36,135
Speaker 14: signs of flooding happening at all.

1433
01:20:36,255 --> 01:20:39,335
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, and I've got to move on. But you know,

1434
01:20:39,375 --> 01:20:41,455
Speaker 5: I mean it's interesting. I saw one the other day

1435
01:20:41,495 --> 01:20:43,615
Speaker 5: which was a house that was reasonably on top of

1436
01:20:43,655 --> 01:20:45,975
Speaker 5: a hill and they were worried about an overland flood

1437
01:20:45,975 --> 01:20:48,815
Speaker 5: path and I'm going, yeah, mate, I think that needs

1438
01:20:48,855 --> 01:20:50,775
Speaker 5: revising so exactly.

1439
01:20:50,895 --> 01:20:53,215
Speaker 14: Yeah, I can't understand why ours is and then the

1440
01:20:53,255 --> 01:20:55,575
Speaker 14: neighbors isn't. It's pretty much on the same level.

1441
01:20:56,655 --> 01:20:59,855
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good luck with the process, all the best,

1442
01:21:00,135 --> 01:21:02,855
Speaker 5: nice talking with your fascinating area. Oh eight hundred eighty

1443
01:21:03,455 --> 01:21:05,255
Speaker 5: seven fifty two at news Talk ZB.

1444
01:21:06,015 --> 01:21:08,455
Speaker 1: Doing of the house sorting the garden, asked Pete for

1445
01:21:08,495 --> 01:21:11,775
Speaker 1: a hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcam and light

1446
01:21:11,855 --> 01:21:15,055
Speaker 1: Force Solar done your solar journey In twenty twenty five.

1447
01:21:15,015 --> 01:21:18,895
Speaker 5: Call oh eight hundred eighty eight News Talk s'b coming

1448
01:21:18,975 --> 01:21:20,215
Speaker 5: up to New Sport and where the top of the

1449
01:21:20,295 --> 01:21:22,375
Speaker 5: are at eight o'clock in just a moment. We'll talked

1450
01:21:22,375 --> 01:21:25,415
Speaker 5: to Heather after the news as well. If you'd like

1451
01:21:25,455 --> 01:21:26,975
Speaker 5: to join us while the lines are open, then the

1452
01:21:27,055 --> 01:21:30,375
Speaker 5: number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Also at around

1453
01:21:30,375 --> 01:21:32,495
Speaker 5: eight thirty this morning, we'll jump into the garden with

1454
01:21:32,535 --> 01:21:35,855
Speaker 5: a red kline past as always and for the first

1455
01:21:35,895 --> 01:21:38,415
Speaker 5: time this year, So looking forward to catching up with rut.

1456
01:21:38,455 --> 01:21:41,655
Speaker 5: If you've got any gardening or entomological questions, you can

1457
01:21:41,695 --> 01:21:43,495
Speaker 5: fire them through on the text or give us a

1458
01:21:43,495 --> 01:21:46,495
Speaker 5: call after eight point thirty here at Newstalk se B

1459
01:21:46,615 --> 01:21:49,855
Speaker 5: Can I also just quickly say I there's my own

1460
01:21:49,895 --> 01:21:53,735
Speaker 5: foolish mistake with a trailer. I bought a trailer a

1461
01:21:53,735 --> 01:21:56,335
Speaker 5: couple of years ago and one of the handles was

1462
01:21:56,375 --> 01:21:57,655
Speaker 5: a bit loose, and I was like, oh, I must

1463
01:21:57,655 --> 01:21:59,615
Speaker 5: repair that, must do that, da da da. Anyway, I didn't,

1464
01:21:59,655 --> 01:22:02,895
Speaker 5: and it fell off stupid right of me. So anyway,

1465
01:22:02,935 --> 01:22:04,655
Speaker 5: I emailed the company and said, can you see me

1466
01:22:04,695 --> 01:22:07,575
Speaker 5: out of handle? This was Luca trailer. Within a couple

1467
01:22:07,615 --> 01:22:09,535
Speaker 5: of days they'd sent out a handle. In fact, they'd

1468
01:22:09,535 --> 01:22:11,815
Speaker 5: sent out some spare handles, they sent out some bolts,

1469
01:22:11,855 --> 01:22:14,975
Speaker 5: they sent out She said wheel pairings and a little

1470
01:22:14,975 --> 01:22:17,135
Speaker 5: clamp and a whole lot of stuff. I was just

1471
01:22:17,175 --> 01:22:19,695
Speaker 5: super impressed that just before Christmas they got onto it

1472
01:22:19,735 --> 01:22:21,935
Speaker 5: and got it on the courier and got it to me.

1473
01:22:21,975 --> 01:22:25,575
Speaker 5: And I've got that fact, so again, my thanks to them.

1474
01:22:25,615 --> 01:22:28,735
Speaker 5: That was outstanding on the heart of Luca Trailer's it

1475
01:22:28,775 --> 01:22:32,015
Speaker 5: was a great job. Right, we're back straight after news.

1476
01:22:32,215 --> 01:22:35,255
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

1477
01:22:35,295 --> 01:22:37,135
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, you give

1478
01:22:37,215 --> 01:22:40,295
Speaker 1: Peter wolf Cabin call on, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,

1479
01:22:40,495 --> 01:22:43,575
Speaker 1: the resident builder with light four solar, where your twenty

1480
01:22:43,615 --> 01:22:47,495
Speaker 1: twenty five solid purchase burns you airpoints, dollars used talks at.

1481
01:22:47,415 --> 01:22:50,895
Speaker 5: Me must be my turn O. Eight hundred eighty ten

1482
01:22:50,975 --> 01:22:53,495
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call. We'll talk building through

1483
01:22:53,535 --> 01:22:56,895
Speaker 5: to about eight thirty this morning. Excuse me if you've

1484
01:22:56,895 --> 01:23:00,455
Speaker 5: got a question of a gardening nature though. Oh, eight

1485
01:23:00,495 --> 01:23:02,455
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. But

1486
01:23:02,615 --> 01:23:06,695
Speaker 5: after eight point thirty my mind, we talked a bit

1487
01:23:06,735 --> 01:23:10,615
Speaker 5: about storm water and tanks and so on, and in

1488
01:23:10,615 --> 01:23:12,655
Speaker 5: my mind, I'm sort of playing this game where I'm

1489
01:23:12,695 --> 01:23:16,615
Speaker 5: going when do I need to start, like, I've got

1490
01:23:16,655 --> 01:23:18,695
Speaker 5: tanks and I want to irrigate the garden, and not

1491
01:23:18,815 --> 01:23:21,255
Speaker 5: a lot of need at this stage in Auckland to

1492
01:23:21,255 --> 01:23:23,895
Speaker 5: irrigate the garden. But I'm sort of trying to predict

1493
01:23:24,055 --> 01:23:26,495
Speaker 5: when it is that I could that I should start

1494
01:23:26,615 --> 01:23:29,695
Speaker 5: using the water and the tanks, but in the hope

1495
01:23:29,695 --> 01:23:33,215
Speaker 5: that there will still be rain to come. So I

1496
01:23:33,295 --> 01:23:36,175
Speaker 5: started using water out of the slim gym tank that

1497
01:23:36,255 --> 01:23:40,175
Speaker 5: sits behind my shed the other day to irrigate the

1498
01:23:40,175 --> 01:23:43,015
Speaker 5: hedge because it looked a little bit dry, and then

1499
01:23:43,055 --> 01:23:45,295
Speaker 5: of course we had rain overnight. Such chances are that's

1500
01:23:45,295 --> 01:23:49,015
Speaker 5: topped up again. But it's that sort of mind game

1501
01:23:49,095 --> 01:23:51,295
Speaker 5: of going when can I start using it? And if

1502
01:23:51,335 --> 01:23:53,295
Speaker 5: I do use it up, will I get some more rain?

1503
01:23:53,495 --> 01:23:56,335
Speaker 5: There's been plenty of that around at the moment. I wait,

1504
01:23:56,335 --> 01:23:58,655
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We're talking all things

1505
01:23:58,695 --> 01:24:01,815
Speaker 5: building construction, and you know the sort of the legislation,

1506
01:24:01,895 --> 01:24:05,215
Speaker 5: the big stuff that surrounds it as well, including that

1507
01:24:05,255 --> 01:24:08,095
Speaker 5: discussion just prior to the news about storm water and

1508
01:24:08,175 --> 01:24:13,215
Speaker 5: overland flow paths, and sometimes you know what happens when

1509
01:24:13,295 --> 01:24:16,055
Speaker 5: a neighbor doesn't comply. How do you deal with that.

1510
01:24:16,735 --> 01:24:18,255
Speaker 5: If you'd like to chat about that, we can talk

1511
01:24:18,255 --> 01:24:20,935
Speaker 5: about that as well. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1512
01:24:21,095 --> 01:24:24,095
Speaker 5: eighty the number to call. Hello Heather, Thanks waiting, How

1513
01:24:24,135 --> 01:24:24,375
Speaker 5: are you?

1514
01:24:24,575 --> 01:24:30,415
Speaker 9: Oh, good morning, Peter. My question relates to double blazing

1515
01:24:30,655 --> 01:24:35,095
Speaker 9: and flashing. Yes, So, at the end of December twenty

1516
01:24:35,135 --> 01:24:39,375
Speaker 9: two I made a final payment for a whole apartment

1517
01:24:39,415 --> 01:24:43,615
Speaker 9: in Wellington to be double glazed, and it is about

1518
01:24:43,655 --> 01:24:47,295
Speaker 9: sixteen meters across the front floor to ceiling windows. Well,

1519
01:24:47,295 --> 01:24:50,775
Speaker 9: it's quite a lot, yeah, quite a lot. So in

1520
01:24:50,815 --> 01:24:55,775
Speaker 9: April twenty four I noticed that the flashings on the

1521
01:24:55,775 --> 01:24:59,855
Speaker 9: balcony deck, on the ground, on the sitting on the

1522
01:24:59,895 --> 01:25:04,255
Speaker 9: debt level had little bubbles in them. So I sent

1523
01:25:04,375 --> 01:25:07,135
Speaker 9: a picture to the installer and he did come and

1524
01:25:07,175 --> 01:25:10,535
Speaker 9: have a lock and he said they'd never seen anything

1525
01:25:10,695 --> 01:25:14,455
Speaker 9: like that before. So he got in touch with the

1526
01:25:14,495 --> 01:25:18,215
Speaker 9: powder Cota and he said he couldn't say exactly why

1527
01:25:18,255 --> 01:25:22,615
Speaker 9: that had happened. Possibly your solvent had come into contact

1528
01:25:22,695 --> 01:25:25,655
Speaker 9: with the paint right and they think they might have

1529
01:25:25,815 --> 01:25:30,415
Speaker 9: to scrape the affected area's back time and then the

1530
01:25:30,655 --> 01:25:36,335
Speaker 9: spray an appropriate product. My question is is this going

1531
01:25:36,335 --> 01:25:40,095
Speaker 9: to work? He hasn't done it yet contact.

1532
01:25:39,735 --> 01:25:43,495
Speaker 5: Rhythm, just just for clarity. The fleshing that you're talking

1533
01:25:43,495 --> 01:25:47,775
Speaker 5: about was installed as part of the double glazing installation.

1534
01:25:48,695 --> 01:25:53,055
Speaker 9: Oh yes, absolutely, okay. So the first fleshing that goes

1535
01:25:53,095 --> 01:25:56,415
Speaker 9: on at the bottom of the window, then the windows

1536
01:25:56,455 --> 01:25:58,495
Speaker 9: go in, and then the fleshing at the top locked

1537
01:25:58,495 --> 01:25:59,975
Speaker 9: it all together, doesn't it.

1538
01:26:00,215 --> 01:26:03,495
Speaker 5: And again just for the purposes of clarity, that flashing

1539
01:26:03,735 --> 01:26:06,815
Speaker 5: went into the opening. And then was it new jewinery

1540
01:26:06,895 --> 01:26:10,335
Speaker 5: that was installed as well as new glazing. So new

1541
01:26:10,415 --> 01:26:12,375
Speaker 5: window frame, all.

1542
01:26:12,335 --> 01:26:14,975
Speaker 9: New window frames, a whole lot eighty dollars.

1543
01:26:15,735 --> 01:26:18,855
Speaker 5: Okay. No, it's just sometimes when we typically when we

1544
01:26:18,935 --> 01:26:23,255
Speaker 5: talk about retrofit double glazing, we're talking about adding double

1545
01:26:23,295 --> 01:26:26,975
Speaker 5: glazing where there was single glazing, but leaving the frames

1546
01:26:27,255 --> 01:26:30,415
Speaker 5: the original frame reusing. So in this instance, they took

1547
01:26:30,495 --> 01:26:32,775
Speaker 5: the whole they took a whole lot out and they've

1548
01:26:32,855 --> 01:26:38,255
Speaker 5: replaced it. Okay, So it's lord, yeah, redoing the joinery okay.

1549
01:26:39,335 --> 01:26:43,375
Speaker 5: And then yeah, typically we install a sill flashing and

1550
01:26:43,615 --> 01:26:46,055
Speaker 5: then the jowinery gets installed over the top of that,

1551
01:26:46,375 --> 01:26:49,615
Speaker 5: and then it's the sill flashing that is now bubbling.

1552
01:26:50,775 --> 01:26:53,775
Speaker 9: Yep, yeap, the one on the outside.

1553
01:26:56,295 --> 01:26:58,375
Speaker 5: I have to say it is not cross.

1554
01:26:58,455 --> 01:27:01,335
Speaker 9: The front that I can see is about seven to

1555
01:27:01,455 --> 01:27:06,015
Speaker 9: eight meters long. The other parts of the windows, like

1556
01:27:06,735 --> 01:27:10,295
Speaker 9: I can't inspect because I'm up upper level. Yeah sure,

1557
01:27:10,815 --> 01:27:14,295
Speaker 9: and I can't get there to have a look. Yeah,

1558
01:27:14,695 --> 01:27:17,775
Speaker 9: but that's seven or eight meters long. And the fleshing

1559
01:27:18,375 --> 01:27:22,655
Speaker 9: are not in one big long strup their infections yeap,

1560
01:27:23,815 --> 01:27:26,055
Speaker 9: but they've all got bubbling in them.

1561
01:27:26,135 --> 01:27:26,655
Speaker 6: It looks like.

1562
01:27:26,855 --> 01:27:33,975
Speaker 5: Blisters and the fleshings. I mean most likely they were

1563
01:27:34,015 --> 01:27:35,695
Speaker 5: powder coated, right, Yes.

1564
01:27:35,615 --> 01:27:38,935
Speaker 9: They are powder coterd definitely, because he said I've been

1565
01:27:39,015 --> 01:27:42,335
Speaker 9: in touch with the powder coat yep. And he can't

1566
01:27:42,415 --> 01:27:46,095
Speaker 9: say exactly why it's happened. Possibly as solvent has come

1567
01:27:46,175 --> 01:27:47,655
Speaker 9: into contact with the pain.

1568
01:27:47,855 --> 01:27:49,415
Speaker 5: And that's caused it to bubble.

1569
01:27:49,615 --> 01:27:51,135
Speaker 9: So it definitely happened.

1570
01:27:51,855 --> 01:27:54,575
Speaker 5: I think they doing a repair as they've indicated, which

1571
01:27:54,695 --> 01:27:57,855
Speaker 5: is to scrape back the affected area, do a primer

1572
01:27:58,415 --> 01:28:01,855
Speaker 5: in each primer and then overcoat. But then how are

1573
01:28:01,895 --> 01:28:03,775
Speaker 5: they going to apply the top coat? Are they going

1574
01:28:03,815 --> 01:28:05,455
Speaker 5: to brush it on? Are they going to mask it

1575
01:28:05,535 --> 01:28:06,055
Speaker 5: and spray?

1576
01:28:06,415 --> 01:28:11,855
Speaker 9: Don't know, and I'm a bit concerned if they what

1577
01:28:12,015 --> 01:28:14,455
Speaker 9: he said at one stage, they would grind it back.

1578
01:28:14,735 --> 01:28:17,895
Speaker 9: So if they do that, stars will then go on

1579
01:28:17,975 --> 01:28:20,855
Speaker 9: to the water proof membrane which is on the contract.

1580
01:28:21,735 --> 01:28:23,815
Speaker 5: No, I think if they're talking about grinding it back,

1581
01:28:23,855 --> 01:28:26,135
Speaker 5: I think they're more likely to use like an abrasive

1582
01:28:26,215 --> 01:28:28,655
Speaker 5: flat disc in a grinder, and so there'll be a

1583
01:28:28,695 --> 01:28:30,375
Speaker 5: lot of dust, but there won't be that much heat,

1584
01:28:30,895 --> 01:28:33,255
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't I don't know that I'd be too concerned.

1585
01:28:33,295 --> 01:28:35,415
Speaker 5: I think what I would ask them is how they

1586
01:28:35,535 --> 01:28:39,535
Speaker 5: intend to apply the top coat, because you know, if

1587
01:28:39,575 --> 01:28:42,255
Speaker 5: what they're going to do is brush it well, brushing,

1588
01:28:42,335 --> 01:28:44,495
Speaker 5: even if you're really good, it's not going to look

1589
01:28:44,495 --> 01:28:47,855
Speaker 5: as good as the spray painting, right, So exactly, I

1590
01:28:47,935 --> 01:28:50,695
Speaker 5: don't think brushing is a good solution. There are you know,

1591
01:28:50,815 --> 01:28:54,255
Speaker 5: they can mask and spray it. And I wonder whether

1592
01:28:54,335 --> 01:28:57,855
Speaker 5: it's a job that perhaps the contractor should you know.

1593
01:28:57,935 --> 01:28:59,935
Speaker 5: I mean, in the end, it would seem like it's

1594
01:28:59,975 --> 01:29:02,935
Speaker 5: the contractor's fault, right. It's a defect either with the

1595
01:29:03,375 --> 01:29:05,735
Speaker 5: product or with the installation of it. And it's got

1596
01:29:05,775 --> 01:29:08,055
Speaker 5: nothing to do with you. It's not something you have

1597
01:29:08,215 --> 01:29:08,735
Speaker 5: course now.

1598
01:29:08,735 --> 01:29:10,935
Speaker 9: It's got nothing to do with me. And I think

1599
01:29:10,975 --> 01:29:14,575
Speaker 9: that the defect has happened at the powder coated, yeah,

1600
01:29:14,815 --> 01:29:15,535
Speaker 9: and that so.

1601
01:29:15,735 --> 01:29:18,575
Speaker 5: In that case, like I'm just thinking, we had a

1602
01:29:18,615 --> 01:29:22,055
Speaker 5: situation where we had some new joinery installed and it

1603
01:29:22,175 --> 01:29:24,535
Speaker 5: was a front door that was a solid panel door,

1604
01:29:24,615 --> 01:29:27,255
Speaker 5: so it was a powder coated sheet and there was

1605
01:29:27,495 --> 01:29:31,895
Speaker 5: a scratching it and so a specialist team came out

1606
01:29:32,415 --> 01:29:35,935
Speaker 5: to repair the scratch and then respray the door in situ.

1607
01:29:36,575 --> 01:29:39,295
Speaker 5: And I think it's that sort of application that would

1608
01:29:39,695 --> 01:29:47,695
Speaker 5: be most suitable for your repair. So that yep. Ye, Again,

1609
01:29:48,615 --> 01:29:51,695
Speaker 5: arguably it's not you know, painting is not the same

1610
01:29:51,695 --> 01:29:55,095
Speaker 5: as powder coating. Powder coting happens in the factory. There's

1611
01:29:55,095 --> 01:29:59,455
Speaker 5: an electrical reaction that bonds the particles to the material

1612
01:29:59,895 --> 01:30:02,695
Speaker 5: and so you can't replicate that outside of the factory.

1613
01:30:02,895 --> 01:30:08,255
Speaker 5: But at the same time, this here will be suitable

1614
01:30:08,335 --> 01:30:09,415
Speaker 5: and durable, I think.

1615
01:30:09,575 --> 01:30:13,575
Speaker 6: But again I want to come with a warranty.

1616
01:30:14,135 --> 01:30:18,695
Speaker 5: You'd have to ask the person doing the repair. So

1617
01:30:19,775 --> 01:30:22,255
Speaker 5: I mean the powder coder will have contacts the joiner.

1618
01:30:22,695 --> 01:30:25,855
Speaker 5: I mean it's scratches to joinery is not uncommon, right,

1619
01:30:26,055 --> 01:30:28,295
Speaker 5: So there are lots of people out there doing really

1620
01:30:28,335 --> 01:30:30,575
Speaker 5: good jobs of repairing it because we make lots of

1621
01:30:30,655 --> 01:30:33,935
Speaker 5: mistakes on site. But you'd need to talk to them

1622
01:30:34,215 --> 01:30:41,655
Speaker 5: about the repair. Interesting text that's just come through, Pete.

1623
01:30:41,775 --> 01:30:44,655
Speaker 5: Sounds like it's an already coated flashing that have been

1624
01:30:44,935 --> 01:30:49,095
Speaker 5: recoated to save money. Now, that would be an interesting Okay.

1625
01:30:49,695 --> 01:30:54,575
Speaker 9: No, I would doubt that very much, because this guy

1626
01:30:54,735 --> 01:30:58,935
Speaker 9: has done nine apartments in this building and he's not

1627
01:30:59,135 --> 01:31:00,215
Speaker 9: going to be doing it well.

1628
01:31:00,615 --> 01:31:01,375
Speaker 6: I'll be surprised.

1629
01:31:01,535 --> 01:31:01,575
Speaker 11: No.

1630
01:31:01,895 --> 01:31:05,975
Speaker 9: Yeah, and the old stuff was definitely well beyond No.

1631
01:31:06,615 --> 01:31:09,135
Speaker 5: I think what this texture is saying is that is

1632
01:31:09,215 --> 01:31:12,655
Speaker 5: it possible that in the lead up to getting the

1633
01:31:12,735 --> 01:31:17,695
Speaker 5: job done, the joinery supplier had supply of a particular

1634
01:31:17,855 --> 01:31:20,815
Speaker 5: color of flashing, but it wasn't the right one, and

1635
01:31:21,055 --> 01:31:24,015
Speaker 5: in the factory or perhaps beforehand, they've done a quick

1636
01:31:24,095 --> 01:31:26,855
Speaker 5: spray in order to change the color to the color

1637
01:31:26,895 --> 01:31:30,615
Speaker 5: that matches the joinery, and that has delaminated, and again

1638
01:31:31,015 --> 01:31:32,575
Speaker 5: you would be able to see that. So if you

1639
01:31:32,855 --> 01:31:35,855
Speaker 5: scraped very delicately the surface off and found there was

1640
01:31:35,895 --> 01:31:40,095
Speaker 5: another color underneath it, then you'd say, actually, you tried

1641
01:31:40,135 --> 01:31:42,335
Speaker 5: to paint this in the factory to match the joinery

1642
01:31:42,375 --> 01:31:46,495
Speaker 5: because you didn't have the right product. And therefore, again

1643
01:31:46,655 --> 01:31:48,735
Speaker 5: that emphasizes the fact that it's not your problem, it's

1644
01:31:48,735 --> 01:31:51,335
Speaker 5: their problem, so appreciate that text that's coming through.

1645
01:31:51,975 --> 01:31:54,135
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, I can see what it means there.

1646
01:31:54,335 --> 01:31:57,775
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I would emphasize the fact that the contractor

1647
01:31:57,855 --> 01:31:59,815
Speaker 5: needs to bring in a specialist to do this work.

1648
01:32:00,415 --> 01:32:01,975
Speaker 5: You know, it shouldn't be the boy from the factory

1649
01:32:02,015 --> 01:32:02,695
Speaker 5: with a paintbrush.

1650
01:32:03,935 --> 01:32:05,935
Speaker 9: Well that's concern.

1651
01:32:06,615 --> 01:32:11,615
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's just a cautious approach on your part.

1652
01:32:11,695 --> 01:32:12,895
Speaker 5: Will be worthwhile.

1653
01:32:14,215 --> 01:32:16,535
Speaker 9: Because the guy who put the windows on was the

1654
01:32:16,575 --> 01:32:18,815
Speaker 9: one who you said that he will come and fix up.

1655
01:32:20,615 --> 01:32:24,295
Speaker 5: Okay. Then the quick answer, the quick question is are

1656
01:32:24,375 --> 01:32:26,695
Speaker 5: you going to warranty your work? And if you're not,

1657
01:32:26,895 --> 01:32:29,055
Speaker 5: then can you provide me with a contractor who will

1658
01:32:29,135 --> 01:32:30,455
Speaker 5: warranty their work?

1659
01:32:31,935 --> 01:32:32,255
Speaker 9: Thank you?

1660
01:32:32,775 --> 01:32:35,855
Speaker 5: Yeah, good luck with that, Heather, thank you very much,

1661
01:32:35,855 --> 01:32:38,575
Speaker 5: all the very best, take care, my pleasure, all the best, Bob.

1662
01:32:38,575 --> 01:32:40,255
Speaker 5: By then your news talk c B will take a

1663
01:32:40,255 --> 01:32:42,255
Speaker 5: short break. We'll talk to Lorraine in the moment. Remember

1664
01:32:42,335 --> 01:32:44,295
Speaker 5: we've got rd climb pass for the first time in

1665
01:32:44,375 --> 01:32:47,415
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five at around eight thirty this morning.

1666
01:32:49,815 --> 01:32:53,735
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor get the right advice from

1667
01:32:53,815 --> 01:32:57,575
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder with light foursolar dot co

1668
01:32:57,735 --> 01:33:00,535
Speaker 1: dot zead and make twenty twenty five the you switch

1669
01:33:00,775 --> 01:33:02,095
Speaker 1: to Solar News Talks.

1670
01:33:02,135 --> 01:33:05,175
Speaker 5: It b coming up bang on twenty minutes after eight

1671
01:33:05,255 --> 01:33:08,695
Speaker 5: here at NEWSTALKSB at eight thirty. I mentioned at the

1672
01:33:08,695 --> 01:33:10,295
Speaker 5: beginning of the show sort of you know how we

1673
01:33:10,335 --> 01:33:12,015
Speaker 5: get a bit reflective at the end of the year,

1674
01:33:12,095 --> 01:33:13,855
Speaker 5: and that sort of thing. And I was thinking, what

1675
01:33:14,215 --> 01:33:16,495
Speaker 5: have been my most useful tools all most.

1676
01:33:18,255 --> 01:33:18,615
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1677
01:33:21,215 --> 01:33:22,975
Speaker 5: Something I didn't think I needed, but now I do

1678
01:33:23,175 --> 01:33:25,735
Speaker 5: realize that I did. And I mentioned that at the

1679
01:33:25,775 --> 01:33:27,535
Speaker 5: beginning of the show, and then I'm thinking, I must

1680
01:33:27,575 --> 01:33:29,975
Speaker 5: tell you what that is. So I think two things

1681
01:33:30,015 --> 01:33:32,055
Speaker 5: for me. One is and I've mentioned this couple of

1682
01:33:32,135 --> 01:33:34,415
Speaker 5: weeks ago on the program. I have been dismissive for

1683
01:33:34,455 --> 01:33:37,255
Speaker 5: a long time about track saws, and it's just an

1684
01:33:37,295 --> 01:33:39,695
Speaker 5: old fashioned thing where you go, well, you just take

1685
01:33:39,735 --> 01:33:41,975
Speaker 5: a straight edge, clamp it down, run skill saw along it.

1686
01:33:42,055 --> 01:33:45,295
Speaker 5: That's easy. Why would you bother with these fandangle track saws?

1687
01:33:45,455 --> 01:33:48,775
Speaker 5: Until I got one? So the good people at Ryobi

1688
01:33:48,815 --> 01:33:51,575
Speaker 5: dropped one off for me to use, and I've used

1689
01:33:51,615 --> 01:33:54,095
Speaker 5: it and I made a whole bunch of ourl boxes

1690
01:33:55,255 --> 01:33:58,735
Speaker 5: using the track saw, which is actually in that situation,

1691
01:33:58,815 --> 01:34:02,295
Speaker 5: it's fantastic different angles, raking bits and that sort of thing.

1692
01:34:02,375 --> 01:34:04,255
Speaker 5: You just make the mark run the track saw along it.

1693
01:34:04,375 --> 01:34:07,095
Speaker 5: So for me, I think the tsaw has been the

1694
01:34:07,695 --> 01:34:11,095
Speaker 5: transformational tool. And I'm probably five years late to the party,

1695
01:34:11,175 --> 01:34:13,175
Speaker 5: but hey, I'm there now and I'm loving it. So

1696
01:34:13,655 --> 01:34:17,455
Speaker 5: that Ryobi tracksaw turned out to be incredibly useful, I

1697
01:34:17,535 --> 01:34:20,175
Speaker 5: have to say. And the other thing is a new

1698
01:34:20,255 --> 01:34:24,495
Speaker 5: set of ear muffs, proper air muffs from a company

1699
01:34:24,575 --> 01:34:26,735
Speaker 5: that designs them here in New Zealand, so muff Tech

1700
01:34:26,855 --> 01:34:29,615
Speaker 5: air muffs with really good sound, really good hearing protection,

1701
01:34:29,735 --> 01:34:33,255
Speaker 5: but really good sound. Because my typical habit is while

1702
01:34:33,295 --> 01:34:35,735
Speaker 5: I'm like I was the other day using a hedge

1703
01:34:35,775 --> 01:34:38,735
Speaker 5: trimmer or using the mower and using the blower and

1704
01:34:38,855 --> 01:34:40,735
Speaker 5: using the line trimmer and that sort of thing working

1705
01:34:40,815 --> 01:34:43,775
Speaker 5: in the garden, I will have I always wear hearing protection,

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01:34:44,495 --> 01:34:47,535
Speaker 5: but typically I wander along quite happily listening to podcasts

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01:34:47,655 --> 01:34:50,095
Speaker 5: or listening to the radio, and it's great to do

1708
01:34:50,255 --> 01:34:53,175
Speaker 5: that with a proper, decent pair of ear muffs with

1709
01:34:53,495 --> 01:34:55,695
Speaker 5: good sound in them. So there you go. That's my

1710
01:34:55,815 --> 01:35:00,015
Speaker 5: two top transformational tools for twenty twenty four. Can't wait

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01:35:00,015 --> 01:35:02,255
Speaker 5: to see what twenty twenty five brings. I can tell you, oh,

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01:35:02,295 --> 01:35:04,655
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call Lorraine.

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01:35:04,735 --> 01:35:05,855
Speaker 5: A very good morning to you.

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01:35:07,095 --> 01:35:07,735
Speaker 12: Hello road.

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01:35:08,135 --> 01:35:12,175
Speaker 5: No, not yet, but close. Because I was talking about gardening.

1716
01:35:12,215 --> 01:35:15,415
Speaker 5: I understand why you you leaped to that conclusion. How

1717
01:35:15,495 --> 01:35:16,295
Speaker 5: can I help Lorraine?

1718
01:35:17,815 --> 01:35:20,615
Speaker 12: The council have dug up our driveway and taken out

1719
01:35:20,655 --> 01:35:24,095
Speaker 12: our leader box to do Draine work. Yes, and since

1720
01:35:24,175 --> 01:35:26,935
Speaker 12: July last year and it hasn't been They still haven't

1721
01:35:26,975 --> 01:35:28,175
Speaker 12: come and fixed it up.

1722
01:35:30,015 --> 01:35:31,815
Speaker 5: Really have they done the driveway?

1723
01:35:33,335 --> 01:35:36,015
Speaker 12: No, they haven't done anything. They've done the drainage, but

1724
01:35:36,055 --> 01:35:38,935
Speaker 12: they haven't have got stones on the driveway and the

1725
01:35:39,015 --> 01:35:40,535
Speaker 12: leader boxes up against the saints.

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01:35:40,775 --> 01:35:43,375
Speaker 5: Right did they say they were going to reinstate the driveway.

1727
01:35:45,735 --> 01:35:48,455
Speaker 12: We presume they were, and we run. I've been ringing

1728
01:35:48,495 --> 01:35:51,255
Speaker 12: the council and they're putting in reviews that it's all

1729
01:35:51,295 --> 01:35:54,655
Speaker 12: we've heard. I've rung the council several times.

1730
01:35:54,415 --> 01:35:59,775
Speaker 5: About it, because chances are council will issue the work

1731
01:35:59,895 --> 01:36:02,815
Speaker 5: order and then a contractor will do the job right.

1732
01:36:04,015 --> 01:36:06,615
Speaker 5: So I wonder whether the approach to take is to

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01:36:08,095 --> 01:36:11,095
Speaker 5: ring counsel and go. Can you give me the work

1734
01:36:11,415 --> 01:36:15,015
Speaker 5: order for that job? Can you tell me whether it's

1735
01:36:15,095 --> 01:36:15,975
Speaker 5: been paid for?

1736
01:36:16,375 --> 01:36:16,615
Speaker 9: I e.

1737
01:36:16,855 --> 01:36:20,295
Speaker 5: Have you paid the contractor for the work and did

1738
01:36:20,375 --> 01:36:23,695
Speaker 5: that work conclude the reinstatement of the driveway, Because if

1739
01:36:23,735 --> 01:36:26,415
Speaker 5: it did and they haven't done it, then I've got

1740
01:36:26,495 --> 01:36:29,495
Speaker 5: news for you, counsel. You've paid for work that hasn't

1741
01:36:29,535 --> 01:36:33,535
Speaker 5: been done. That will have a completely different impact on

1742
01:36:34,455 --> 01:36:37,255
Speaker 5: council than you ring and just complaining about work that

1743
01:36:37,335 --> 01:36:40,295
Speaker 5: hasn't been done, because it's it's their money that they've spent.

1744
01:36:40,575 --> 01:36:42,055
Speaker 5: So I would I would take that approach.

1745
01:36:43,535 --> 01:36:44,415
Speaker 12: Okay, we'll try that.

1746
01:36:44,575 --> 01:36:44,815
Speaker 10: Try that.

1747
01:36:45,015 --> 01:36:47,895
Speaker 5: Let me know how you get on. Yes, thank you, alrighty,

1748
01:36:48,055 --> 01:36:53,175
Speaker 5: take care well by then. I'm sure that it would

1749
01:36:53,175 --> 01:36:55,415
Speaker 5: come as no shock to anyone that I'm sure that

1750
01:36:55,535 --> 01:36:58,175
Speaker 5: counsel end up paying for work that never actually gets

1751
01:36:58,215 --> 01:37:04,695
Speaker 5: done by contractors. I'm absolutely convinced that that happens. Oh

1752
01:37:04,735 --> 01:37:06,815
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. The number called Jeff,

1753
01:37:06,855 --> 01:37:07,775
Speaker 5: good morning.

1754
01:37:09,375 --> 01:37:10,495
Speaker 10: Good morning, How do you.

1755
01:37:10,855 --> 01:37:12,815
Speaker 5: I'm pretty good? Actually, thank you?

1756
01:37:14,135 --> 01:37:18,175
Speaker 10: Yeah. I sent you an email about a stead.

1757
01:37:18,015 --> 01:37:22,055
Speaker 5: Tower that I have, sorry about a witch a stair

1758
01:37:22,135 --> 01:37:22,895
Speaker 5: tower that I have.

1759
01:37:24,855 --> 01:37:29,415
Speaker 10: That was built in heart Greamor many years ago as thrived.

1760
01:37:29,495 --> 01:37:33,495
Speaker 5: Thank you, my crazy. That's quite impressive for those years

1761
01:37:33,735 --> 01:37:36,615
Speaker 5: who don't have access to my email, which is most

1762
01:37:36,655 --> 01:37:40,175
Speaker 5: of you external to mystera for it. That's a very

1763
01:37:40,255 --> 01:37:41,015
Speaker 5: funky design.

1764
01:37:42,375 --> 01:37:45,775
Speaker 10: Yes, yes they're try and but it's not looking too

1765
01:37:45,855 --> 01:37:46,335
Speaker 10: well at the.

1766
01:37:46,375 --> 01:37:48,095
Speaker 5: Moment I was going to say, does it look like.

1767
01:37:49,935 --> 01:37:53,655
Speaker 10: No, not really, but it's just there's there's the odd

1768
01:37:53,775 --> 01:37:57,335
Speaker 10: Japan and we want to replace it.

1769
01:37:57,575 --> 01:37:57,735
Speaker 4: Now.

1770
01:37:58,415 --> 01:38:01,015
Speaker 10: The original was heart GM. It was built on site,

1771
01:38:01,135 --> 01:38:06,815
Speaker 10: so it was a structural es and this time around

1772
01:38:06,935 --> 01:38:09,895
Speaker 10: I'm thinking of getting it done in a joinery factory,

1773
01:38:10,175 --> 01:38:12,535
Speaker 10: so the talents and that would be a lot better.

1774
01:38:14,255 --> 01:38:19,735
Speaker 10: But the suggestion is to use PARTN and you know,

1775
01:38:20,095 --> 01:38:24,775
Speaker 10: knowing the sort of personality of Pine, it tends to

1776
01:38:24,855 --> 01:38:29,815
Speaker 10: be a little bit unstable or move around and just

1777
01:38:30,015 --> 01:38:33,015
Speaker 10: wondering what you thought. The other suggestion I had been

1778
01:38:33,095 --> 01:38:36,335
Speaker 10: given was Cedar, but that tends to be a little

1779
01:38:36,335 --> 01:38:37,135
Speaker 10: bit too soft.

1780
01:38:37,335 --> 01:38:39,895
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, for sort of structural stuff,

1781
01:38:39,935 --> 01:38:41,935
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, if you like, I've done a

1782
01:38:41,975 --> 01:38:44,655
Speaker 5: couple of pergolas and those sorts of things in Cedar,

1783
01:38:44,735 --> 01:38:49,535
Speaker 5: but in terms of actually walking on it, I would agree,

1784
01:38:49,655 --> 01:38:52,135
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that it's that great. It would be

1785
01:38:52,215 --> 01:38:55,455
Speaker 5: quite interesting to go to someone like Rosenfalt and Kitson,

1786
01:38:55,575 --> 01:39:00,015
Speaker 5: for example, who are in Auckland, who import timbers from

1787
01:39:00,055 --> 01:39:03,615
Speaker 5: around the world, and they may well have some hardwoods

1788
01:39:03,815 --> 01:39:08,495
Speaker 5: of suitable dimension that you could then provide to the

1789
01:39:08,655 --> 01:39:13,575
Speaker 5: joiner to use. So it might be killer. It might

1790
01:39:13,695 --> 01:39:17,335
Speaker 5: be I'd have to put my thinking cap on for

1791
01:39:17,375 --> 01:39:19,775
Speaker 5: a bit and think about suitable timbers for outside. But

1792
01:39:20,895 --> 01:39:24,575
Speaker 5: I'd be inclined to take that photograph, which is fantastic,

1793
01:39:24,695 --> 01:39:27,535
Speaker 5: and go along to, you know, some of these specialist

1794
01:39:29,015 --> 01:39:32,935
Speaker 5: timber and porters and say, look, do you have something.

1795
01:39:33,415 --> 01:39:36,615
Speaker 5: It might be an African hardwood that's come in, It

1796
01:39:36,695 --> 01:39:40,495
Speaker 5: might be something out of the South Pacific that they

1797
01:39:40,615 --> 01:39:46,295
Speaker 5: could they'd have sufficient stock of suitably sized timber that

1798
01:39:46,375 --> 01:39:49,855
Speaker 5: you could machine down and do the posts, the rails

1799
01:39:50,015 --> 01:39:54,775
Speaker 5: and the decking and everything. The other option and I'm

1800
01:39:54,815 --> 01:39:57,015
Speaker 5: thinking about a choir, but it's I don't know that

1801
01:39:57,135 --> 01:40:01,215
Speaker 5: it's structural as such. Which is a modified pine. This

1802
01:40:01,415 --> 01:40:04,535
Speaker 5: is heat treated pine that ends up going essentially from

1803
01:40:04,535 --> 01:40:08,175
Speaker 5: a soft wood to a hardwood and again and we

1804
01:40:08,295 --> 01:40:11,575
Speaker 5: you like a bodo cladding is another one whether or

1805
01:40:11,615 --> 01:40:14,135
Speaker 5: not they might have something suitable. But I think for

1806
01:40:14,255 --> 01:40:17,095
Speaker 5: what you've shown me there, I'd be tempted to go

1807
01:40:17,215 --> 01:40:22,975
Speaker 5: after Rosenvelt kits and see what they've got. Yeah, Rosenfelt

1808
01:40:23,055 --> 01:40:28,975
Speaker 5: and kitsen k I d Son. I think, yeah, you'll

1809
01:40:29,015 --> 01:40:33,095
Speaker 5: find them a mate. Enjoy it's a fabulous looking house.

1810
01:40:33,135 --> 01:40:36,255
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for the photo. Yes, sure, yeah,

1811
01:40:37,535 --> 01:40:40,775
Speaker 5: all of this and I realized for people listening to

1812
01:40:40,775 --> 01:40:43,735
Speaker 5: the photograph means no. I mean it's it's a very

1813
01:40:44,615 --> 01:40:50,215
Speaker 5: interesting architectural design with a lot of it's a sort

1814
01:40:50,255 --> 01:40:52,535
Speaker 5: of glazing you just wouldn't be able to build today.

1815
01:40:54,295 --> 01:40:57,935
Speaker 5: I think it's exceptional, very beautiful. Thank you very much

1816
01:40:57,975 --> 01:40:59,935
Speaker 5: for that. Jeff, that's great. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1817
01:41:00,055 --> 01:41:03,255
Speaker 5: ten eighty. If you have a gardening question or a

1818
01:41:03,335 --> 01:41:07,255
Speaker 5: question about the wonderful world of bugs and now and

1819
01:41:10,695 --> 01:41:13,575
Speaker 5: oh so get it now, give us a call, Give

1820
01:41:13,655 --> 01:41:16,735
Speaker 5: us a call before we get rouded up on the line. Pete,

1821
01:41:16,775 --> 01:41:19,855
Speaker 5: you say you've got a brand of sound equipped ear muffs,

1822
01:41:19,895 --> 01:41:21,695
Speaker 5: and there's there's a bunch of them around right that

1823
01:41:22,135 --> 01:41:24,375
Speaker 5: have either Bluetooth or I've got an older set that

1824
01:41:24,495 --> 01:41:26,415
Speaker 5: have a little tuna in it. So I can listen

1825
01:41:26,415 --> 01:41:29,215
Speaker 5: to the radio. The ones that I picked up, I

1826
01:41:29,295 --> 01:41:32,055
Speaker 5: bought them actually at the home shown Wellington last year.

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01:41:33,095 --> 01:41:36,455
Speaker 5: The brand is muff Tech so m u FFT c

1828
01:41:36,895 --> 01:41:40,095
Speaker 5: H developed by a bunch of a couple of young

1829
01:41:40,135 --> 01:41:43,255
Speaker 5: blokes down in Wellington. So good on them. I think

1830
01:41:43,495 --> 01:41:46,655
Speaker 5: they've I've really enjoyed wearing them and they work particularly

1831
01:41:46,735 --> 01:41:49,655
Speaker 5: well just bluetooth. They're great. It is twenty nine minutes

1832
01:41:49,775 --> 01:41:51,895
Speaker 5: after eight. We're going to take a break. Then we're

1833
01:41:51,895 --> 01:41:53,695
Speaker 5: going to jump into the garden for the first time

1834
01:41:53,815 --> 01:41:56,495
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five with red Climb passed after the break,

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01:41:58,375 --> 01:41:58,855
Speaker 5: helping you.

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