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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. Heather Dupless

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Speaker 1: Allen on the mic asking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 2: Morning and Welcome to the show. Twelve percent of us,

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Speaker 2: twelve percent of us are now on some sort of

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Speaker 2: a benefit. Do we fix this or do we just

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Speaker 2: ride the Saudi economically. We're going to speak to the

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Speaker 2: former Wins boss, Christine Rankin and then the Minister Louise Upston.

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Speaker 2: The old veggies are up in price again. Vegetable New

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Speaker 2: Zealand will explain. We've got the rugby this weekend with

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Speaker 2: Elliott Smith, We've got the Rex and football game with

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Speaker 2: the Phoenix and Tritan. Tim will do the week for us.

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Speaker 3: Heather Dupless the Eloh.

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Speaker 2: I know that there are some who bristol at athletes

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Speaker 2: taking money from the Saudis, but I actually hope that

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Speaker 2: Roger Twiev us a check signs with that Saudi Rugby

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Speaker 2: Rebel Rugby Competition or whatever it's called. And once he

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Speaker 2: does sign, I hope the thing is successful because if

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Speaker 2: it is, I think this could be the best thing

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Speaker 2: that happens to rugby in a very very long time. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is not me bashing rugby again. This is me,

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Speaker 2: as a fan who has loved what waching rugby for

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Speaker 2: thirty five years or so, wanting the best for the

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Speaker 2: game so that I can keep on enjoying it. If

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Speaker 2: this competition works, it will be good for the players,

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Speaker 2: because at the moment there are apparently and this I

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Speaker 2: was surprised by this, only about five rugby players in

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Speaker 2: the world who earn one million US dollars. That's one

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Speaker 2: point six million New Zealand dollars. This league wants to

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Speaker 2: hire forty of them on that kind of money. Rugby

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Speaker 2: players should be making that kind of money, at least

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Speaker 2: the big stars should. And we don't even blink when

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Speaker 2: a cricket player earns that kind of coin. And while

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Speaker 2: rugby is absolutely not as big globally, it is still

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Speaker 2: a significant sport in significant parts of the world. It

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Speaker 2: will be good for the fans as well. Imagine if

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Speaker 2: one of these events came to a city near you

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Speaker 2: on a global tour, like the F one or Sale

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Speaker 2: GP or the Sevens. What an event that would be

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Speaker 2: to attend. It could be good for rugby as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean world rugby. I think we all agree needs

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Speaker 2: a boot up the butt. They take fans for granted.

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Speaker 2: The Sudis, I suspect, will not, because this is about

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Speaker 2: money for them, So they're going to give us the

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Speaker 2: product that earns them the best money, the product that

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Speaker 2: we enjoy the most. If the TMO is a problem,

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Speaker 2: they may fix it. If there's too much defensive play,

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Speaker 2: they may fix it. If there are too many rules,

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Speaker 2: too many scrums, whatever, they may fix it. All the

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Speaker 2: things that will rugby ignores. I suspect the Saudis will

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Speaker 2: fix it if they treat rugby like f one. Now,

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Speaker 2: admittedly it may not be that good for international rugby

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Speaker 2: in the long run, because you just look at what's

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Speaker 2: happened with cricket. The T twenty leagues are cutting the

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Speaker 2: lunch of international cricket. But I would rather have excellent,

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Speaker 2: privately run rugby than boring international tests, if that is

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Speaker 2: the choice that we have. Now. This is not to

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Speaker 2: say it's necessarily going to work. Okay, RTS does not

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Speaker 2: a competition make If the Saudis have learned anything from

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Speaker 2: Live they will need a lot more marquee players and

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Speaker 2: actual marquee players to draw eyeballs. But if this happens.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Israel's latest strike on Gaza was on a church, killing

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Speaker 2: two injuring one of poet Francis's closest friends. This man

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Speaker 2: They were inside the church.

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Speaker 4: People who were there were elderly and innocent civilians. He says,

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Speaker 4: we just want peace.

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Speaker 2: The Vatican has responded.

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Speaker 4: His Holiness renews his call for an immediate cease far

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Speaker 4: and he expresses his profound hope for dialogue, reconciliation and

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein prosecutor Maureen Comy was fired overnight without reason

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Speaker 4: has spoken out.

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Speaker 5: It is cowardly, it is political, it is based on

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Speaker 5: conspiracy theories, and frankly, the US Attorney in the Southern

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Speaker 5: District of New York needs to stand up for his people.

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Speaker 2: Kirstamer is defending suspending those rebel MPs. The reason for

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Speaker 2: it being persistent nobbery. According to one of his staffers, we.

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Speaker 6: Had to deal with people who repeatedly break the whip

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Speaker 6: because everyone was elected as a labor MP on the

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Speaker 6: manifesto of change and everybody needs to deliver as a

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Diane Abbott has also been suspended.

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Speaker 2: I'll get you across those details shortly. The British Medical

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Speaker 2: Association want the talks to go smoothly so doctors don't

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Speaker 7: I was openness on both sides to discuss options that

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Speaker 7: which is very important as many of our colleagues are

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Speaker 2: Ukme man Errol Campbell, who was put in prison by

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Speaker 8: My dad always said he was innocent, and today that's

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Speaker 2: Finally, we started the show on Monday telling you about

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Speaker 2: is news of the world in ninety Now there is

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Speaker 2: drama in the UK, like significant drama with those Afghan

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Speaker 2: resettlements in the Data League, and this is getting more

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Speaker 2: and more ugly. It now turns out that the person

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Speaker 2: who leaked some of the names in Facebook, the person

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Speaker 2: from Afghanistan as well. He was resettled in the UK

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Speaker 2: basically because he blackmailed the government over there. He had

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Speaker 2: previously applied for resettlements in the UK. The UK government

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Speaker 2: committing a crime which has threatened lives, if not already

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Speaker 2: cost lives, and has cost the UK taxpayer seven billion pounds.

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Speaker 2: So, this is the detail on the Diane Abbott situation.

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Speaker 2: She's been suspended from Labor, the governing party over in

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Speaker 2: the UK, after some racist comments. What has been what

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Speaker 2: has been deemed to be racist comments. She basically said

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Speaker 2: out loud that Jewish people experience racism differently to black people.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't gone down well. Labor suspended her, they're investigating. They're

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Speaker 2: not going to comment any further. Sixteen past six Greig Smith,

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Speaker 3: Morning Greg Morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Hey what about those food prices?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's not much of spite there is there in

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Speaker 9: terms of food inflation. So up one point two percent

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Speaker 9: in June. That was after a half percent rise in May.

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Speaker 9: Fruit veggie zy drove the increase up five percent. More

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Speaker 9: expensive broccoli, of course, it's up thirty eight percent, Tomatoes

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Speaker 9: up an incredible fifth five percent. Grocery foods they were

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Speaker 9: driven by high prices of box chocolates.

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Speaker 3: They are up zero.

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Speaker 9: Point eight percent. That category. Food price is annually four

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Speaker 9: points six percent higher, and that was after a four

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Speaker 9: respired there. Freaking vegie prices up to seven point six percent.

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Speaker 9: Meat that's up six point four percent, Grocery food at

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Speaker 9: four point seven percent. So all the pantry staples they

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Speaker 9: So milk two liters there up fourteen percent annually, cheese

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Speaker 9: how about butter, heare eight dollars sixty per five hundred grams.

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Speaker 9: That's up forty six point five percent annually. So look

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Speaker 9: at butter prices compared to ten years ago, to five

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Speaker 3: And twenty percent.

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Speaker 9: Beef steak twenty two percent, beef mints fifteen point six percent.

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Speaker 9: So just no good news here in terms of inflation

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Speaker 9: that consumes this sort of having to deal with, and

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Speaker 9: it's not just food that's increasing in price eiher. So

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Speaker 9: you look at rent, it's obviously a pretty cick one

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Speaker 9: for consumers as well. So that was up two point

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Speaker 9: six percent annually. I suppose a bit of positive news

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Speaker 9: there is that it was down from a two point

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Speaker 9: eight percent annualized to May, so at least that's slowing

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Speaker 9: down a bit. And that increase was the last for

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Speaker 9: revent prices since October twenty twenty eleven. But yeah, those

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Speaker 9: cost of living pressures are very much alive.

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Speaker 2: And well, okay, tell me what you make of the

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Speaker 9: Year to look at quite a shock actually, so I

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Speaker 9: was the employment increased by just two thousand jobs in June,

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Speaker 9: and that's a tenth of what was expected, so they

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Speaker 9: were looking for twenty thousand, so clearly slowing down. The

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Speaker 9: unemployment rate as well, picked that from four point one

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Speaker 9: what's happening with full time versus part time. So part

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Speaker 9: time employment grew by forty thousand, full time employment foul

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Speaker 9: by thirty eight thousand. That also drove down that number

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Speaker 9: of hours worked as well. So thirty four thousand strains

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Speaker 9: became unemployed at the end of financial year. We think

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Speaker 9: of Australia's the lucky country. But yeah, clear this is

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Speaker 9: a bit of a disappointment. The jobs across the teas

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Speaker 9: and is slowing down. And basically what this means either

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Speaker 9: its strength and expectations that the RBA could come for

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Speaker 9: of a rate cut at its meeting next month. And

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Speaker 9: they're surprised by keeping the cash raight on hold earlier

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Speaker 9: this month that's three point eight five percent, and they

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Speaker 9: were looking to wait for the inflation data which is

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Speaker 9: out July thirtieth. But yea, markets are basically pricing in

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Speaker 9: a strong chance of a rate cut next month. The

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Speaker 9: Aussie dollar fowl as to body yields. And I think

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Speaker 9: the interesting as well is the RBA meeting is going

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Speaker 9: to come a week for our own RB and ZED meeting,

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Speaker 9: So I think that could add some extra spice to

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Speaker 9: hours if your Aussies follow through it for right cut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah Greedlesten, tell me what are you making of the

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Speaker 2: US retail sales?

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Speaker 9: You so we talked about inflation's handling. It's a terugh situation,

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Speaker 9: better than expected. It seems to consumers are two in

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Speaker 9: the US. So retail sales rose more than expected, up

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Speaker 9: point six percent in June from May. That was triple

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Speaker 9: what was forecast in your basis. They rose three and

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Speaker 9: a half percent. Lots of demand for watermobiles is expected

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Speaker 9: with Americans, but even if you stripped that out, sales

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Speaker 9: are still up half percent on the previous month. And

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Speaker 9: they ended two months of straight declines. And the consumers

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Speaker 9: literally and good spirits and the US either spend the

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Enjoy your morning, Greg, Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management.

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Speaker 2: No surprise as all. Apparently it's going to be the

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Speaker 3: Well, folks, we're not going there. They are coming here.

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Speaker 2: in October. It's in a theatre's October ten, Heather, New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: As much of the West is in stagflationary environment, it's

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Speaker 2: isn't it, Heather? Listening to Greek Smith, you can't help

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Speaker 2: think that Trump knows what he's doing in the Tariff's

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Speaker 2: wouldn't go as far. I take your point, Clive. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't go as far as saying he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: But I would certainly agree it's not nearly as bad

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Speaker 2: Tomstad b hither I'm no oconnors, but surely you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: expect the impact of the tariffs to come through yet

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Speaker 2: for the following reasons. Number one, business has brought a

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Speaker 2: Number three, Trump paused tariffs while deals were being done.

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Speaker 2: Some of the tariffs have already hit, which is why

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Speaker 2: you're seeing a little bit of an impact. But totally right.

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Speaker 2: It's remember it's first of August is the deadline and

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Speaker 2: Canada for you, and just to ticke us twenty two

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Speaker 2: away from seven no surprise predictions that it's going to

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Speaker 2: be our farming exports that get the economy firing again properly.

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Speaker 2: This is according to Inframetric's latest economic forecasts, which say

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Speaker 2: Josh Tanner is the executive of Export New Zealand and

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Speaker 11: Good morning Josh, Good morning Heather.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised that so far the doom and gloom

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Speaker 11: No, Look, I think we aren't too surprised about it.

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Speaker 11: You know, we have been hit by a ten percent tariff,

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Speaker 11: and I think, as you said before, you know, there

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Speaker 2: Do you think, though, given that we had the delay

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Speaker 11: Look, I think it's it's hard to say. As you

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Speaker 11: see again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is the US still loving our red meat?

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Speaker 11: I think so. Look, it's only it's not just red

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Speaker 11: rest of the food and fiber sector as well. You know,

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Speaker 11: I've got some stats from March twenty twenty five quarter

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Speaker 11: but then if you look across the board on on

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Speaker 11: for most categories. There are two services exports in quarter

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Speaker 11: about six hundred and seventy five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right, is this just into the US?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, No, this is this is globally, this.

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Speaker 2: Is everything, all right?

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Speaker 11: What about clarified?

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Speaker 2: What's going No, that's absolutely fine. What's going on with

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Speaker 2: the fact that their economy is a bit on the

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Speaker 2: slow down. But are they still buying our stuff?

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Speaker 11: I think that are still buying our stuff? Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 11: Again, you know, it is sort of quite an uncertain

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Speaker 11: But look, things are still strong for us globally.

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Speaker 2: Do we need to talk about the price of better

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Speaker 2: one if you want to, I don't want to. Do

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Speaker 2: you get from stracted by it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 11: No, Look, it is a challenge and I have sort

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Speaker 11: of spoken about it before. You know, it is a

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Speaker 11: is part of an international marketplace. We have to sell

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Speaker 11: ninety percent of our product services and when demand and

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Speaker 11: prices are strong for New Zealand produce overseas. You know,

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Speaker 11: this is what this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is good for the country, that's the thing. Now,

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Speaker 2: what do you make of this back down by Canada?

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Speaker 11: Yees? So, look, we're really happy with the result. We're

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Speaker 11: pleased to see that. You know, a year's long dispute

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Speaker 11: particularly also in the global trade context, just as we've

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What made them finally back down us for all these years?

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Speaker 11: I'm not sure. I think again, it might just be

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps so, Josh, it's good to talk to you. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Josh Han who is the executive director at Expert in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. So what if you've been following it, you'll

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Speaker 2: CPTPP and then we wanted to send the dairy to Canada.

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Speaker 2: They started getting funny about it. They started blocking the

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Speaker 2: last year, and then just overnight we've just heard that

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Speaker 3: Together do for Sea Allen.

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Speaker 2: We are going to have to talk about the price

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Speaker 2: of butter, unfortunately because it went up nearly fifty percent,

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Speaker 2: but also the price of veggies went up, tomatoes, caps,

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Speaker 2: cant broccoli, some of that is out of season. I

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Speaker 2: can understand, but the Brox I thought would have been

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Speaker 2: in season vegetables. New Zealand can explain after seven, it's quarter.

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Speaker 1: Two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business and with us.

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Speaker 2: Out of the US is our correspondent, Richard Arnold. Morning, Richard,

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Speaker 2: good morning here all right, tell us about Trump's leagues.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, the Trump team never has been greatly informative

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Speaker 16: about the president's health. Trump is the oldest person ever

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Speaker 16: to take up the post. When he was sworn in,

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Speaker 16: he was what five months older than Biden when he

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Speaker 16: took on the job. One time Trump physician Ronnie Jackson,

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Speaker 16: a staunch Trump supporter, once quipped that Trump could live

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Speaker 16: to be two hundred if he had a healthier diet

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Speaker 16: instead of his favorite cheeseburgers and diet coke, of course,

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Speaker 16: a dream for which he reinstalled an order button in

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Speaker 16: the Oval office of the second term. Lately, the people

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Speaker 16: have been noticing, though that Trump's swollen ankles in an

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Speaker 16: apparent bruise on his hand look to be troubling, and

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Speaker 16: a White House briefing a short time ago, the President's

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Speaker 16: press person Carrolon Levitt says Trump went through recent vascular testing.

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Speaker 16: His part of what she has said about this seemed

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Speaker 16: to be having some difficulties, but she indicated that he'd

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Speaker 16: been through this testing procedure and that as a result,

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Speaker 16: they had cleared him of having any serious vascular difficulties.

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Speaker 3: He went through.

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Speaker 16: Some processes for chronic ve insufficiency, as it called, which

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Speaker 16: is a benign and fairly common condition, particularly in individuals

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Speaker 16: over the age of seventy eleve had said. She also

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Speaker 16: indicated that there was no evidence of deep vein from

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Speaker 16: bosis or arterial disease, and that an echo cardiogram had

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Speaker 16: showed normal cardiac structures and functions, so she said all

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Speaker 16: of that was in normal age limits. Other doctors now

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Speaker 16: are indicating that this is not surprising for someone of

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Speaker 16: Trump's age seventy nine. Now, there is still a lot

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Speaker 16: on the president's agenda, of course. A new poll out

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Speaker 16: today says that sixty nine percent of Americans believe that

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Speaker 16: details of the Trump Epstein association are yet to be revealed.

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Speaker 16: At the same time, a job approval for Democrats has

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Speaker 16: hit an all time low, with numbers out today showing

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Speaker 16: that fewer than two hour ten voters happy with the Democrats'

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Speaker 16: efforts on Capitol Hill. So that's a pretty miserable result.

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Speaker 2: Now, what has gone on with this lightning strike where

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Speaker 2: somebody's actually died as a result of it.

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Speaker 16: That's right out of the blue. One person is dead

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Speaker 16: and thirteen others are injured after this lightning strike, which

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Speaker 16: occurred at a New Jersey archery raign. The person killed

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Speaker 16: was a sixty one year old man who was hosting

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Speaker 16: a Boy Scout Cub Scout group, and a witness said

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Speaker 16: it just came at a time when there was no rain.

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Speaker 16: There was simply this light lightning strike that appeared just

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Speaker 16: as a pull from the ether. Apparently among those injured

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Speaker 16: as a seven year old, and at least four of

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Speaker 16: the victims are children who've been taken off to hospital

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Speaker 16: with serious burns. Three adult instructors also have been hospitalized.

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Speaker 16: First responders did CPR on one fellow, while another was

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Speaker 16: found to be unconscious but happily regained consciousness soon after.

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Speaker 2: Ever, good stuff, Richard, Thank you very much, Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 2: US correspondent. So, chronic venous insufficiency, which is what Trump

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Speaker 2: has got, a condition where the blood doesn't flow back

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Speaker 2: to the hearts official efficiently from the legs, and it

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Speaker 2: just sits there, pooling in the veins, which is you'll

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Speaker 2: see a lot of a lot of pictures of this.

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Speaker 2: Now he's got quite quite swollen little ankles going on there.

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Speaker 2: And basically what it comes from is you know, age obesity,

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Speaker 2: family history of ericus veins, multiple pregnancies. Obviously not a

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Speaker 2: thing for Donald Trump. It can be exacerbated by prolonged

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Speaker 2: standing or sitting, and there'll be a fair amount of

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Speaker 2: that that he is doing as the president. They can

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Speaker 2: there are ways to get around it. They can you know,

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Speaker 2: inject it with various things to close off the vericus veins.

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Speaker 2: They can use heat or laid laser to close off

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Speaker 2: the veins. There are some you know, in severe cases,

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Speaker 2: they can do some surgery and stuff like that. It

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Speaker 2: does to get work. It does tend to get worse

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Speaker 2: over time if it's not treated. But if it's if

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Speaker 2: it's diagnosed early and managed properly, then it can be

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Speaker 2: slowed and the symptoms can be managed. Can I just

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Speaker 2: say on this though, that the Internet has been asking

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Speaker 2: for months what the hell is wrong with Donald Trump's legs?

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Speaker 2: Because you know, he's he's been on the golf course

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Speaker 2: being dra his left leg on occasion, been dragging the

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Speaker 2: right leg. But the internet spot of the stages ago.

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Speaker 2: The Internet also was asking for years what the hell

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Speaker 2: was wrong with Joe Biden's brain, And in both cases

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Speaker 2: it was apparently nothing to see here until there was

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Speaker 2: something to see here, and the Internet was right. So

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Speaker 2: maybe not in all cases, but maybe sometimes we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: write off the Internet quite as quickly as we do

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Speaker 2: ten to seven here they do.

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Speaker 1: For Cyllen on the mic hosting Breakfast with Bailey's Real

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Speaker 1: Estate News Dogs, there'd.

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Speaker 2: Be Oh dear, the British government is going to give

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Speaker 2: sixteen and seventeen year olds the right to vote in

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Speaker 2: all UK elections. I say, oh dear, because once this

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Speaker 2: kind of idea hits a place like the UK, which

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Speaker 2: is rather large and where we export a lot of

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Speaker 2: our ideas from and where we visit a lot, you know,

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Speaker 2: once they latch onto something like this, it's only a

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Speaker 2: matter of time, isn't it, before we're lumped with the

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Speaker 2: same thing. And the reason they're doing it is because

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Speaker 2: they already have elections in Scotland and Wales and sixteen

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Speaker 2: and seventeen year olds already vote there, so it you know,

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Speaker 2: roll it out to England and then the whole thing

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Speaker 2: is all doing the same thing, so it would align

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Speaker 2: better across Britain, they say. Prime Minister says, they're old

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Speaker 2: enough to go out to work, they're old enough to

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Speaker 2: pay taxes and I think if you pay in you

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Speaker 2: should have the opportunity to say what you want your

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Speaker 2: money spent on in which way the government should go.

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Speaker 2: This is not altogether a surprise because it was in

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Speaker 2: their election manifesto, and it should likely pass because it

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Speaker 2: was in their election manifesto. But you know, brace yourself

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Speaker 2: for the debate to be sparked up here again. Six

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business paper, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So those working in the hospitality sector don't seem to

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Speaker 2: be doing too badly. The Restaurant Association has put out

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Speaker 2: their twenty twenty five remuneration survey, which shows continual wage

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Speaker 2: growth in the sector. The average hourly wage across the

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Speaker 2: industry is now twenty seven dollars eighty four. That's up

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Speaker 2: two and a half percent on last year. The average

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Speaker 2: salary is now eighty three thousand dollars and some change.

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Speaker 2: Some highlights. A head chef can earn up to forty

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Speaker 2: six dollars sixty two an hour, and front of house

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Speaker 2: roles can get up to forty five dollars an hour.

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Speaker 2: General managers are averaging up one hundred and thirty three

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars per year. And here's a really interesting part

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Speaker 2: about all of this. Despite having what I would say

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Speaker 2: is a non existent tip culture in this country, we're

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Speaker 2: actually quite generous when we go out to eat. Per week,

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Speaker 2: restaurant managers are earning one hundred and four dollars from

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Speaker 2: tips alone, and weight staff are averaging one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighteen dollars per week and tips alone not bad ad

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Speaker 2: given how I mean, how often do you get that

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Speaker 2: little machine and it goes with you like to do

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Speaker 2: a tip and got red button, red button, and still

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Speaker 2: there are enough people out there doing the green button

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Speaker 2: to get them.

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Speaker 12: To how do they you know, when they do that

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Speaker 12: on that machine, how do they then distribute that tip?

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Speaker 12: Because I mean, you know, usually if you do a tip,

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Speaker 12: you're giving it, You're wanting it to go to the

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Speaker 12: staff you serve oh.

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Speaker 2: No, ye, well it goes to everybody. This is where

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Speaker 2: you've got to if you want to if you want

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Speaker 2: it to go to your weight stuff, you have to

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Speaker 2: do that dodgy little thing where you roll it into

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Speaker 2: a twenty and slip it in their pocket. What roll

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Speaker 2: it and roll the twenty up, you know, into a

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Speaker 2: little bundle, slip it in the pocket. Twenty dollar? It's

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Speaker 2: twenty what what's the problem with the twenty? Is that too?

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Speaker 12: I know, I just don't understand.

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Speaker 9: What.

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Speaker 12: What are you talking about.

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Speaker 2: In their pocket?

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Speaker 10: Rolling up?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 2: It does? It sounds like some.

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Speaker 12: Sort of a dragent physical money.

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Speaker 2: There is that. We're going to talk about welfare shortly

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Speaker 2: because this number. You know, when I look at the

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Speaker 2: welfare numbers and I just I just I find that

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Speaker 2: I need a lie down afterwards often because the number

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Speaker 2: of kiwis on welfare has gone up by about seven percent.

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Speaker 2: And look at that. That is not that remarkable. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we are in one of the worst recessions that we've

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Speaker 2: been in like living memory. But regardless, what we what

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Speaker 2: we now have is about four hundred more than four

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand people sitting on a benefit. That's twelve percent

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Speaker 2: of us. That's one and eight eight of us right

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Speaker 2: to get eight people into a room. One of us

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Speaker 2: is on the doll You add that to the number

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Speaker 2: of people on the pench and you've got a real problem. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: what are we going to do about this? Are we

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Speaker 2: going to change it? Christine Rankin is with us very

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Speaker 2: shortly and we are going to speak to the minister

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Speaker 2: about it after half past seven and as well get

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Speaker 2: her take on it. Coca cola Coca cola has become

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Speaker 2: a thing in the United States. Donald Trump reckons he's

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Speaker 2: convinced Coke to use real cane sugar in its drinks

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Speaker 2: instead of the corn syrup that they use. They use

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Speaker 2: cane sugar in most places around the world, but they

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Speaker 2: use corn syrup in the US, and they have done

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Speaker 2: this since the nineteen eighties because it's cheap. But what's

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Speaker 2: gone on is in Mexico, which isn't that far away. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: they use the cane sugar and it tastes better. So

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Speaker 2: they import what they call mexicoke into the border States

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Speaker 2: and people will pay sometimes twice three times as much

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Speaker 2: for the mexicoke so they can avoid the stinky old

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Speaker 2: US coke and Trump loves the mexicoke and he wants

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Speaker 2: Coca Cola in the US to do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: He reckons they have agreed, they are noncommittal on it,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, watch that Space Coke Diplomacy news is next.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show, Kiwi's trust to stay in the No

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Speaker 1: Heather dup to see Ellen on the my casking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate all together better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: The number of kiwis on welfare is up. It's climbed

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Speaker 2: by six and a half percent in the last year,

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Speaker 2: which means over four hundred thousand people and now on

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Speaker 2: a benefit in this country, as about twelve percent of

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Speaker 2: the working age population. Christine Rankin is the former boss

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Speaker 2: of Winds and with Us mourning Christine.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Heather, now Christine.

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Speaker 2: This is obviously expected during an economic downturn, but still

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Speaker 2: a staggering number, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: Look it is a huge number, but it's not the

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Speaker 17: first time It's happened. Many times in history that numbers

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Speaker 17: have been around this, and it is inevitable that it's

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Speaker 17: going to reflect what's going on in the economy. But

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Speaker 17: what you've got to give this government credit for, and

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Speaker 17: this minister in particular, for putting in the reforms that

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Speaker 17: are in that system. No government for decades has done

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Speaker 17: anything as courageous as this, And to get eighty one

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Speaker 17: thousand people back into work is a big deal. It's

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Speaker 17: a big deal for the people who were left to

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Speaker 17: rot on there with the last government, and it's a

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Speaker 17: big deal for the taxpayer. So while there are huge numbers,

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Speaker 17: they are I'm not sure if they're being cycled through,

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Speaker 17: but I suspect they're going into jobs and they're not

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Speaker 17: lasting very long for some of them, and they're going

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Speaker 17: back on benefit again. But I'm afraid that's part of

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Speaker 17: a process that is desperately needed and has been for years.

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Speaker 17: So the numbers are inevitable. I don't see how that,

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Speaker 17: with an economy as we have it at the moment,

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Speaker 17: it can be any other way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just on the doll which is the job seeker support,

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Speaker 2: that's up ten percent in the year. That must represent

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Speaker 2: quite a lot of new people going on the DOLL Yet.

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Speaker 17: I would have thought so. And look, it will affect

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Speaker 17: young people more than anyone else. They're the hardest ones

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Speaker 17: to place, but the system they now have to go

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Speaker 17: through shows no actually what if it needs to be

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Speaker 17: put into work and it's a damn god experience for

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Speaker 17: their lives.

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Speaker 2: Look, I want to ask you what I'm fascinated by

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Speaker 2: what's going on in the UK with welfare at the moment,

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Speaker 2: in the welfare shakeup, and particularly the fact that it's

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Speaker 2: coming from a labor government. Is this just populism that

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Speaker 2: pops up from time to time or is this actually

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Speaker 2: developed world countries realizing that that welfare at the rates

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Speaker 2: that we pay it is unsustainable.

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Speaker 17: I believe it's the second part of that. This has

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Speaker 17: been ridiculous for a long time and people think it's

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Speaker 17: an entitlement.

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Speaker 2: It is not.

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Speaker 17: It's a right and welfare in New Zealand is one

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Speaker 17: of the most generous in the world and we do

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Speaker 17: need to take a big look at it. Yes we've

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Speaker 17: got social problems, but it started out being there for

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Speaker 17: people in desperate need. Now it's there for everyone and anyone.

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Speaker 17: And until this minister came along, there were no expectations

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Speaker 17: for you to do anything at all but sit there

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Speaker 17: for as long as you like and do whatever you like.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you Christine always as Christine Rank

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Speaker 2: and former WINS boss the Minister Louis Upstom will be

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Speaker 2: with us after seven thirty on. That's ten pars seven.

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Speaker 3: The dupis Allen.

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Speaker 2: Food prices have shot up again. Data show that they

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Speaker 2: have climbed four point six percent in the year's June,

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Speaker 2: our largest increase since late twenty twenty three. And yees, butter,

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Speaker 2: you did not imagine that it went up nearly fifty percent. Now,

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Speaker 2: John Murphy is Vegetables New Zealand's chair and with us.

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Speaker 3: Morning John, Morning Heather.

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Speaker 2: Now, how much is fruit and vege's gone up? Is

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Speaker 2: it five percent?

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Speaker 18: Vegetables itself is point eight of a percent, and so

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Speaker 18: it's five percent for fruit and vegetables. But I actually

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Speaker 18: think that the figures are a bit screwy, to be

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Speaker 18: honest with your Heather. They don't quite make sense because

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Speaker 18: if you go down to Walworth today, a broccol is

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Speaker 18: two dollars. So I think there's something there where the

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Speaker 18: economist community maybe need to have a look at that,

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Speaker 18: because it's actually pretty important that we get real clarity

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Speaker 18: on what's good value At the moment.

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Speaker 2: Is that good value for a broccoli?

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Speaker 18: It's very good value. It's very good value, and I

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Speaker 18: think I think you mentioned it earlier that a lot

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Speaker 18: of this is seasonal as well, and people buy seasonally.

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Speaker 18: They really do do well. And we're adamant that buying

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Speaker 18: more freehealthy food, free healthy food and vegetables, it is

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Speaker 18: good for New Zealanders, it's good for their pocket and

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Speaker 18: it's good for the future of New Zealand. And to

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Speaker 18: be fair, there are some storms coming and on the

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Speaker 18: resource management front, so we really want to make sure

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Speaker 18: that we follow through what the government is intending at

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Speaker 18: the moment so that we don't see sustained high prices

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Speaker 18: in the future.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you think is going on with

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Speaker 2: the economists and the price of broccoli.

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Speaker 18: I just think that I mean, I note that there's

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Speaker 18: more figures being released on Monday, but I think if

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Speaker 18: you start with a low price and you add a

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Speaker 18: percentage to it, it's still a low price. And so

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Speaker 18: over the recent periods, vegetable grows really struggled. Actually, I

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Speaker 18: think we're looking at historically low prices and so an

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Speaker 18: increase still means that prices are low. But really we've

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Speaker 18: got to look at what is it important for us

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Speaker 18: to have access to as a country, and clearly fresh

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Speaker 18: healthy food should be one of them.

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Speaker 2: Now, what is going on with the weather down in

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Speaker 2: the top of the South Island and the vegetables that

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Speaker 2: will be impacted there, What should we be what should

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Speaker 2: we expect to see at the supermarket.

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Speaker 18: Look, I think that over the next couple of months,

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Speaker 18: as you often do in winter, you will see prices

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Speaker 18: increase marginally, And it really depends what happens going forward. Now,

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Speaker 18: but that's the dramatic side of it, and I have

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Speaker 18: to say, there's some real damage in that area, and

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Speaker 18: I've heard some real horror stories for people growing peers

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Speaker 18: or indeed our vegetable grows and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 18: So there's a big clean up effort there. Look, when

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Speaker 18: Cycling Gabriel hit in the Gisbone area in particular, we

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Speaker 18: saw fresh cut green supply impacted by around fifteen percent,

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Speaker 18: prices increased by three hundred percent, and the market really

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Speaker 18: does respond quickly to shortages like that. That's not good

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Speaker 18: and that's why it's really important that in those key

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Speaker 18: areas we get permitted activity. So the likes of Hotafenawa

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Speaker 18: and Northern Way, Kiddo, that's the headline at the moment,

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Speaker 18: I regional councils continue to limit rotation in those areas

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Speaker 18: despite good environmental practice, we will see a massive increases

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Speaker 18: and prices going forward that needs to be sorted.

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Speaker 2: John, it's good to talk to you. Look after yourself

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Speaker 2: as John Murphy, Vegetable's New Zealand chair, thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: Now I've got a little bit of good news for

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Speaker 2: you right because I feel like you might need it

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Speaker 2: after listening to the vegetable prices. When we do finally

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Speaker 2: get the economy humming, it's going to be good. Infometrics

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Speaker 2: has just doubled us talking about the Infometrics data earlier,

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Speaker 2: some of it is that it's just doubled its growth

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Speaker 2: forecasts for the economy. So it's going to be they say,

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Speaker 2: heading towards two point eight percent a year growth next year.

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Speaker 2: They reckon it's because the farm exports are pulling us through.

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Speaker 2: So if you're feeling aggrieved about the price of so

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Speaker 2: just remember this. The farm exports are pulling us through.

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Speaker 2: Lower interest rates are obviously starting to hit. And we've

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Speaker 2: got less worry now than we did maybe a little

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Speaker 2: while ago, a few weeks ago about what's going on

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Speaker 2: with the tariffs. We will absolutely be waiting longer than

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Speaker 2: expected because last year it was survived to twenty five,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. When we're in twenty five, I ain't. Nothing's happening.

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Speaker 2: So we're waiting a little bit longer than we thought

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Speaker 2: we would, but when it does happen, it will be

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Speaker 2: better than we thought. Talk Rugby Next with Elliot Smith,

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Speaker 2: the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Howard By News talks at.

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Speaker 2: Behither we're told to buy seasonal, but fijoa got up

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Speaker 2: to twelve ninety nine per kg this year, which is

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Speaker 2: daylight robbery. Do you know what fijo at? Anything above

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Speaker 2: zero dollars per kg feels to me like a ripoff,

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Speaker 2: and I do I'm not that person. I do very

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Speaker 2: occasionally buy a fijoa from the supermarket, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel right, does it.

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Speaker 12: I'm not allowed to I'm not allowed to buy them,

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Speaker 12: no matter how cheap they are.

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Speaker 2: Because you have a tree.

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Speaker 12: Well we do have three trees, but they didn't really

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Speaker 12: do anything this year, so that was a bit pointing,

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Speaker 12: and I still wasn't allowed to buy them.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's I put a little I put a little

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Speaker 2: ban on myself from buying them because I feel like

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Speaker 2: they should just be given to me because they are

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Speaker 2: just so prolific. But anyway, there you go. Twelve ninety

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Speaker 2: nine is twelve ninety nine to two expensive as far

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Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. Eighteen past seven, now, boy, have we

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Speaker 2: got changes in the All Black squad for the final

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Speaker 2: Test against France tomorrow night. Raza has swapped out ten

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Speaker 2: players and for the first time in forever, there is

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Speaker 2: no Barrett in the squad. Elliott Smith's Newstalk zb's lead

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Speaker 2: rugby commentator and with us Morning Elliott in Morning Heather, Well,

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Speaker 2: we can't accuse Razor of being timid with his selections anymore,

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Speaker 2: can we?

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Speaker 19: No, we can't, and I think there's a lesson learned

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Speaker 19: from last year, especially against Italy and Sheurin wheen he

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Speaker 19: didn't change some of those players and ran out his

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Speaker 19: largely first choice team again. This time he's gone, Well,

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Speaker 19: the opportunity is there and they don't come along too

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Speaker 19: often in test rugby where you can have a look

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Speaker 19: at some different players, different combinations. Look, the All Blacks

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Speaker 19: still want to win obviously tomorrow night, but you've got

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Speaker 19: to take these opportunities to find out a little bit

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Speaker 19: more about the likes of Rubien Love about Damien McKenzie

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Speaker 19: at teena about seven penny female on the blind side flank,

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Speaker 19: among others, because you just won't get them too often

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Speaker 19: and it certainly won't come in the Rugby Championship. You know,

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Speaker 19: Argentina two tests away is going to be tough, South Africa,

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Speaker 19: obviously Australia. So if you want to find out a

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Speaker 19: bit more about these players and get them into the

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Speaker 19: All Blacks environments and playing some rugby tomorrow night, it's

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Speaker 19: the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: When was the last time we had no Barretts in

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Speaker 2: the squad?

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Speaker 19: It was against Japan and last year in Yokohama, so

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Speaker 19: no Barrett's played in that game. But before then I

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Speaker 19: did have that note at the time, but it'd be

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Speaker 19: a long time since that point, so being fairly recent.

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Speaker 19: But look in the last ten to fifteen years, very

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Speaker 19: very rare that there's been no Barretts in the the

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Speaker 19: run on side.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with Bodie's hand? I mean, if it's puffy

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Speaker 2: it sounds serious.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Puffy's never good is it for a hands? And

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Speaker 19: Scott robertson says the going for scans and our courses Brothers.

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Speaker 19: Scott is also in the injury wilderness at the moment,

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Speaker 19: waiting for more information on that calf injury he had.

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Speaker 19: His injury during Super Rugby. Robinson wasn't able to clarify

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Speaker 19: whether it was the same hands, but that kept him

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Speaker 19: out for about five or six weeks, remembering in Super

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Speaker 19: Rugby a possibility it does so again and obviously with

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Speaker 19: the Rugby Championship bearing down on us, you wouldn't want

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Speaker 19: it to be too long. So look, we'll probably get

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Speaker 19: some scan results I would suspect in the next couple

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Speaker 19: of days and find out whether it's good news or

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Speaker 19: bad for Boden.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff. Thank you, Elliott. Elliott Smith News Talks edb's

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Speaker 2: Rugby editor. Big weekend for the rugby You've got this

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night and then you've obviously got the Wrexham game

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Speaker 2: in Wellington. You've got twenty five thousand people heading to

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Speaker 2: the cake to Unfortunately, if you were hoping for Ryan

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Speaker 2: Reynolds turning up done and look like that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Four Listen, I'll tell you what I don't like about

896
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Speaker 2: the money that we're spending on Sunny Culcial and the

897
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Speaker 2: Retail Crime Advisory Group. It's not a good deal. That's

898
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: what I don't like. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 2: Sunny Cucial. In fact, I like most of the ideas

900
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Speaker 2: that he pitches quite a lot, actually, But he was

901
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: pitching these ideas to the government for free. If someone

902
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Speaker 2: offers you something for free and you then decide to

903
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Speaker 2: pay for it, that's a bad deal, isn't it. And

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Speaker 2: and we are paying very very good coin for these

905
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Speaker 2: ideas that were free five minutes ago. Sonny Carcial can

906
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Speaker 2: claim apparently for his work nine hundred and twenty dollars

907
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: a day now between March first and June tenth, which

908
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Speaker 2: is one hundred and two days. One news reckons he

909
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Speaker 2: earned himself more than ninety five thousand dollars. Now, my

910
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: sons tell me that ninety five thousand dollars divided by

911
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: nine hundred and twenty means that he has been working

912
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Speaker 2: and claiming that money seven days a week, every single week,

913
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Speaker 2: for one hundred and two days straight. And then there

914
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Speaker 2: are some other money there that I cannot explain. That's

915
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Speaker 2: on top of that, now, nearly one hundred thousand dollars

916
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: for three three months work is not bad, is it?

917
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Speaker 2: And then never mind that, but look at the personnel

918
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: cost of three hundred and thirty thousand dollars, which Sonny

919
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: told us yesterday was for lawyers and policy work work.

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Speaker 2: I would say that mostly can be done in house

921
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Speaker 2: by government departments and ministerial officers, because they do this

922
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Speaker 2: kind of thing all the time, and in fact, they

923
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Speaker 2: have probably already done work on some of these ideas

924
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Speaker 2: that have been pitched. Given that the ideas have been

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Speaker 2: pitched in the past beforehand, it's not all that novel

926
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Speaker 2: right now. Frankly, at the cost of three hundred and

927
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Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars for three months work of policy and

928
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Speaker 2: legal work, I think that we can see that someone

929
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Speaker 2: is taking the mickey here, aren't they.

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Speaker 14: Now?

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Speaker 2: This fundamental question behind all of this, obviously, is if

932
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Speaker 2: you're offered something for free, why would you pay for it?

933
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Speaker 2: And the simple answer is because that is how the

934
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Speaker 2: government gravy train works. Good for Sunny carcial. If I

935
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Speaker 2: was offered that much money by the government for doing

936
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Speaker 2: what I was already doing, I would take it. But

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00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: I expected better from National given that we are broke

938
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Speaker 2: as a country and they are supposed to be careful

939
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Speaker 2: with money.

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Speaker 3: Keller do for Cela.

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Speaker 2: Now listen, yesterday the groceries arrived, right. I get my

942
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Speaker 2: groceries from Willies, because Willies, by the way, if you

943
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Speaker 2: didn't know, this offers a better deal for the deliveries

944
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Speaker 2: because you can have a subscription. So there you go.

945
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Speaker 2: There's a plug for Willies. However, however, the groceries arrived,

946
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Speaker 2: and in the groceries are these little disky things that

947
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Speaker 2: you can collect nowadays. Have you seen these things? I

948
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Speaker 2: want to take this opportunity to say that they are shite.

949
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Speaker 2: What on earth is what is going wrong with Woolworths.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love a supermarket thingy. I do love

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Speaker 2: a supermarket thing, you very much. I've got the knives,

952
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Speaker 2: I've got the pots, I've got the pans, I've got

953
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Speaker 2: all of the stuff, and I lust after the Smeg

954
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Speaker 2: stuff that New World is doing at the moment. But

955
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Speaker 2: then I am going to Woolworths and they give me

956
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Speaker 2: this crap. And I wouldn't have said anything. I wouldn't

957
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Speaker 2: be complaining about a free thing, would I? If it

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Speaker 2: wasn't that. The last thing that they did was also

959
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Speaker 2: quite rubbish, which was those little boxes. What were they? Minecraft?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Even I'm like, I'm an adult, I don't even know

962
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Speaker 2: what Minecraft is. And then I don't want to give

963
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Speaker 2: my children stupid cardboard which just feels like a crap toy.

964
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Speaker 2: And also, by the way, is not bad, not good

965
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Speaker 2: for the environment anyway. So the latest thing is these

966
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Speaker 2: Disney discs. I don't even know what you're supposed to

967
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Speaker 2: do with them, and they're trying as hard as they

968
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Speaker 2: like to kind of pump this up. They've gone all

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Speaker 2: these promo things going out, which Doesney disc is the

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Speaker 2: rarest and most valuable. By the way, it's Minnie and

971
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Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse standing next to each other, which I got yesterday,

972
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Speaker 2: So I don't think it's that valuable anyway. I just

973
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Speaker 2: want to say, step up your game. Will Worths please

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Speaker 2: come on us us next a don.

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Speaker 15: A god.

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Speaker 3: Not to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Just your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honors

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Speaker 1: tog sad B said Wilson and.

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Speaker 2: Trishurson will do the week for us after eight. Right now,

982
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Speaker 2: it's twenty three away from eight and back to the

983
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Speaker 2: business of the doll As we said earlier, there are

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Speaker 2: now more than four hundred thousand kiwis on some sort

985
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Speaker 2: of benefit. That's up nearly seven percent on last year.

986
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Speaker 2: The number of sanctions are also up though, which is good,

987
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Speaker 2: up twenty seven percent. The minister in charge of fixing

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Speaker 2: this up is Louise Upston with the Social Development Portfolio.

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Speaker 2: Morning Louise, Good morning Heather. How are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Can you do anything about these numbers in

991
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Speaker 2: the short term or do we just need to ride

992
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Speaker 2: out this economic storm.

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Speaker 20: Well, it is challenging right now and I feel for

994
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Speaker 20: anyone who has lost their job recently. But the government's

995
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Speaker 20: budget twenty five going for growth, is all about growth

996
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 20: and infrastructure six point eight billion dollars worth of infrastructure

997
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Speaker 20: projects as well as add on private sector projects in

998
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Speaker 20: the infrastructure pipeline, and that shows that there will be hundreds,

999
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Speaker 20: if not thousands of jobs per projects. Some of those

1000
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Speaker 20: are yet to start yet, so it is a bit

1001
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 20: frustrating right now, but I do want to give people

1002
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Speaker 20: confidence that those jobs are coming.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, Luise, I mean the people who are on

1004
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: the DOL though they're not all construction workers, are they?

1005
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 20: No, But we have jobs and skills hubs that are

1006
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 20: actively working with job seekers now to look at retraining

1007
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Speaker 20: options to prepare people, make sure they're work credy and

1008
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Speaker 20: it can have new skills if they need new skills

1009
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Speaker 20: to get ready for those jobs.

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Speaker 2: But what are we looking at everybody and saying, hey, okay,

1011
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: here you are. You're a clerical worker, We're just going

1012
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 2: to retrain you as a construction work Is everybody going

1013
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: to become construction workers?

1014
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 11: No?

1015
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Speaker 20: But if you think about when those projects start, there's

1016
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Speaker 20: a variety of roles that come with projects. Some of

1017
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Speaker 20: them are administrative projects, some of them are involved in

1018
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 20: project administration. But look, a big part of what we

1019
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 20: are doing with the going for gross in addition for

1020
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 20: the infrastructure pipeline, is the settings that give businesses the

1021
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 20: confidence to take on more staff. And while we haven't

1022
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 20: hit that point in all sectors, we're seeing the primary

1023
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 20: industries recover. I'm working on tourism recovery, so those jobs

1024
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 20: will come. But I accept right now where we are

1025
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 20: in this part of the economic cycle. It is incredibly challenging,

1026
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Speaker 20: and that is why gross is the government's focus.

1027
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to talk to you about this priority

1028
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: that's been given to MSD. You've just told them that

1029
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: they need to focus first and foremost on getting beneficiaries

1030
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: into jobs. Why wasn't that their focus?

1031
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 20: Well, we made that focus for a couple of the

1032
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 20: programs last year more directly, Manna and Mahi and also

1033
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 20: Hapo tamarrang Atahi, setting targets for the number or percentage

1034
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Speaker 20: of people in those programs already being on the job

1035
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Speaker 20: seeker benefit. We've done that more broadly with the Employment

1036
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Speaker 20: Investment Strategy, just to make sure that programs that taxpayers

1037
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Speaker 20: are funding are for those who are already on the benefit.

1038
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Speaker 20: And Yep, while it might make sense that that would

1039
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Speaker 20: already be the case, I've confirmed that with the Investment strategy.

1040
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Speaker 2: Right now, hang on to tech, Well, who was on

1041
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: these programs if it wasn't people who were on the benefit.

1042
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 20: Well some of them, and some of them will still

1043
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 20: work with people at risk of going on to welfare.

1044
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 20: So we do need to also think about the who

1045
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 20: might come on, and we have to target that more accurately.

1046
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: How do you know, someone say most likely, how.

1047
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 2: Do you identify somebody who's in a job but likely

1048
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: to lose their job?

1049
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 20: No, someone who's been long term not in employment. Educational

1050
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 20: training is a category, but that's on the benefit. No, no, no, no,

1051
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 20: some of that category are not on the benefit yet.

1052
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: Well what do they do?

1053
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 20: So sixteen or seventeen year olds may be not in

1054
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Speaker 20: employment educational training but not on welfare either, And so

1055
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Speaker 20: it's a preventative method. And so, for example Mayor's Task

1056
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 20: Force for Jobs I met with yesterday, they've often worked

1057
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Speaker 20: with a group not on benefit. I've said to them

1058
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Speaker 20: they can work with twenty percent of that cohort, but

1059
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Speaker 20: the majority need to be already receiving the job seeker benefit.

1060
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Speaker 2: Okay, So is this wise, though, Louise, because surely the whole,

1061
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Speaker 2: the whole idea about social investment strategy is actually to

1062
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Speaker 2: target people like that before they become a problem, when

1063
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Speaker 2: they're still young.

1064
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Speaker 20: Yes, So there's different pieces of work. If we look

1065
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 20: at school attendance target, school achievement target, that's all about

1066
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Speaker 20: ensuring we have fewer people coming out of the education

1067
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Speaker 20: system who can't go into further education or a job.

1068
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Speaker 20: There are other preventive mechanisms underway.

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Speaker 2: Let me just be absolutely clear about this. So what

1070
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: MSD is doing with these programs only involves two groups,

1071
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: people who are on the benefit and young people who

1072
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: may well end up on the benefits. Just those two groups,

1073
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: nobody else, right.

1074
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Speaker 20: No, But in addition to that whither we have things

1075
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Speaker 20: like the early Response Initiative. So where there's a big

1076
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 20: business that is closing, MSD work with that organization and

1077
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 20: the employees who are about to be made redundant to

1078
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Speaker 20: support them immediately before they go on to welfare. So

1079
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Speaker 20: there will still be programs like that that are right

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Speaker 20: the way, and they are critically important in these economic

1081
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 20: times where there are businesses closing and people being made redundant,

1082
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 20: but where there are significant cost programs and some of

1083
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 20: them cost eight ten thousand dollars per person, I want

1084
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 20: to ensure those are focused on those who are already

1085
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 20: on the job seeker benefit and not at people who

1086
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 20: are in a position to help themselves.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I just want to ask you something really quickly. Okay,

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Speaker 2: have you been following this welfare shakeup in the UK?

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Speaker 14: I have at a distance here.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this is a case of easy populist

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Speaker 2: politics which just comes around every now and again, or actually,

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Speaker 2: is this US as a developed world, as part of

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Speaker 2: the developed world starting to realize generous welfare is unsustainable.

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Speaker 20: Well, I do think it's a question that many countries

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00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 20: are having to confront. You know, the number of people

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Speaker 20: who will be working in New Zealand as taxpayers in

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Speaker 20: the years to come and the number of people being

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Speaker 20: supported by the welfare system or through the pension. The

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Speaker 20: balance needs to come back into balance otherwise it will

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Speaker 20: not be sustainable in the long term.

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Speaker 2: Louise, thank you for your time. Louise Upston, Minister for

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Speaker 2: Social Development and Employment. It's sixteen away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by the News talks.

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Speaker 2: At b oh gosh as if it's possible. The thing

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00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: keeps rolling on. For Mark Latham over in Australia, he

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00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 2: has now been accused of taking covert photographs of female

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00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 2: colleagues in the house and then sharing them with smart

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00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: ass messages attached to them and stuff like that. So

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Speaker 2: we have I have a chat to Steve Price, who's

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Speaker 2: going to be with us after half past eight listen.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this, and actually it stands to reason

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Speaker 2: when you think about how you use if you use AI,

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00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: how you use AI. But I didn't realize this AI

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Speaker 2: is actually kind of ruining the Internet or reducing what

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00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: we're doing on the Internet. What's going on is it's

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00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: changing the way that we do the search. Right, So

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Speaker 2: instead what you do in the past is you'd be like,

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Speaker 2: what is what's wrong with Donald Trump's legs? And then

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Speaker 2: you'd click on the link and it would sort of

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Speaker 2: bring up an article and that way you could read

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00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: through the article. Therefore, it actually gets you to go

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00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: to that article. But if you use AI, now you

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: go what's wrong with Donald Trump's legs? It just tells

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00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: you Donald Trump has got you know, whatever vainous problem,

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00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and it just it runs you through

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Speaker 2: the details and you don't have a link to click.

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Speaker 2: You can ask for a link to click. Sometimes there's

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Speaker 2: a reference to click, but most of the time there isn't.

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Speaker 2: And so as a result, it's basically we just ended there.

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 2: We've got a cool Thanks AI and their head off.

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00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: And as a result of that, worldwide search traffic by

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00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 2: humans has fallen by about fifteen percent In the year

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Speaker 2: to June, science and education sites have lost ten percent

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00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: of their visitors. Reference sites have lost fifteen percent of

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Speaker 2: their visitors. Media is down to nobody feels sorry for

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00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 2: media unfortunately. But health sites are the really big ones

1138
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: because you know, we love to self diagnose what's wrong

1139
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: with me. I've got a headache? Am I dying? You

1140
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: go and read all about it. Now you can just

1141
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: ask ai that it'll tell you that you're dying, which

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Speaker 2: is what the Internet always tells you.

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Speaker 12: I'm not dying. I've just got pancreatitis. Apparently not dying.

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Speaker 2: Appssolutely fine. Health sites have lost thirty one percent of

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Speaker 2: their traffic, So one and three of us are now

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Speaker 2: no longer going there. We're just happily sitting on the

1147
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Speaker 2: chat GPT. Wikipedia says that their loss of traffic is alarming.

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00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: There's an outfit called dot dash Meridith, which owns a

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Speaker 2: bunch of titles like people and food and wine and

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00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: so on. Three years ago, its site's got more than

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Speaker 2: sixty percent of the traffic from us doing Googles. Now

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00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: it's only thirty percent of the traffic or thereabouts.

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Speaker 19: Now.

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Speaker 2: What this means for these sites, obviously is that they're

1155
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: losing money because when you click on the site to

1156
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: go and find out whether you're dying from your headache,

1157
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: there's an advertised co advertisement coming at you because you've

1158
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: been talking about Viking Viking cruises. So then it's like, hey,

1159
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: here's your Viking cruise, and that is earning money for

1160
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: that website. Right now it's not earning that money as well.

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Speaker 2: And in a sad twist of irony, Google, which has

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Speaker 2: been taking away all the advertising dollars from the local

1163
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: media in New Zealand, is now having its advertising dollars

1164
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Speaker 2: taken off it by AI. Now what they're trying to do,

1165
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a bunch of media that is a

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: bunch of websites starting to sue the chat GPT and

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Speaker 2: strike deals with the chat GBT that's happening aroun the

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Speaker 2: world and stuff and with the various AI. But what

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Speaker 2: they're doing, which I think is quite clever, is that

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Speaker 2: instead of monetizing our eyeballs, they're now monetizing the cruels.

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Speaker 2: So when there's like a toll booth type thing that

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Speaker 2: they can set up where if they see the little

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Speaker 2: chat GPT coming and crawling their site, they charge per

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Speaker 2: cruel and that's how they're getting some money anyway, see

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Speaker 2: how that goes, because it's changing everything up the old day. I,

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Speaker 2: little bit by little bit, the world around us is changing.

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Speaker 2: Anna Mobray, I just want to update you on this

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Speaker 2: because she's quite opposed to the social media like I am.

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Speaker 2: For the teenagers. She's announced she's quit social media, no

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Speaker 2: longer on Instagram and facebooks, doesn't miss them. Pointed to

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Speaker 2: a report from Stanford where thirty five thousand participants were

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Speaker 2: paid to deactivate their Facebook and Instagram accounts, and the results,

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Speaker 2: she said were striking. People were less anxious, less depressed, happier,

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00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: much better over where overall emotional well being. It was

1185
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: akin to going to therapy. So if you're feeling a

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00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,959
Speaker 2: bit grumpy, give it a whoon. The irony as Anna

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Speaker 2: did announce this on LinkedIn, which is just so a

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: rapp social media, isn't it? But it's social media all

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Speaker 2: the same.

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Speaker 12: What's more tedious having to listen to somebody self righteously

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00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 12: tell you that they're doing dry July or having to

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 12: listen to somebody self righteously tell you they've quit all

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Speaker 12: social media?

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00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: Definitely drive your life, Yeah, definitely drive your life because

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Speaker 2: I think all of us still love the alcohol. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Actually that's a conundrum, isn't it. Ten Never

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Speaker 2: to be discussed again? Nine Awhere from a Here.

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Speaker 1: The duplicy Ellen on the Mic Hosking breakfast with al

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Speaker 1: Vida Retirement.

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Speaker 3: Communities News Dogs Head b.

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Speaker 2: Trishas and Tim Wilson will cover the week that was

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Speaker 2: for us after eight o'clock at six Away from eight now.

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Speaker 2: Big weekend ahead for the capital. About twenty five thousand

1204
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: fans are expected at the Caketon to watch the Hollywood

1205
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: backed Wrexham team take on the Phoenix. David Dome is

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Speaker 2: the Wellington Phoenix general manager. Morning David, morning head. Are

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Speaker 2: you phizzing?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, pretty excited about it. We met the wrecks and

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00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 15: guys turned up them yesterday. Had a bit of a

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Speaker 15: pulpity Ndedcyes. Good bunch of guys. Dave loving it, Loving

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Speaker 15: it here in New Zealand and it's going to be

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Speaker 15: a great event for the city tomorrow night. Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys have it in you to beat them?

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Speaker 15: Yeah? Of course We Sydney played them on Tuesday night

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00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 15: beat them to one. They had a very young team

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Speaker 15: on in the second half. I know for a fact

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Speaker 15: that our academy is ahead of times better than Sydney's.

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 15: We've got better players, we've got better coach's got better

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Speaker 15: staff in our academy. I know for a fact that

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00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 15: we'll put out a very good team on the team

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Speaker 15: on their ground in the second half and tomorrow night

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Speaker 15: and who knows, who knows what we can do, but

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Speaker 15: good players. We've got good players in the club.

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Speaker 2: Are you hardened by a crowd that book?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's good, right, I mean, the thing is right

1226
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 15: of New Zealand and will into once events like this

1227
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 15: people need to turn out and it's no good for us.

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00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 15: People are sitting home watching it on TV, but they

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Speaker 15: have twenty five thousand at skrist Stadium on Saturday night.

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Speaker 15: It's a great result and you know, it really does

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 15: help us trying to attract events like this for potentially

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Speaker 15: next evenon. So that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we've been saying this for

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00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: a very long time, but somehow it does feel like

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00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: football coming of age in this country.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Well.

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Speaker 15: You know, we've been doing the hard jacket for about

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Speaker 15: fifteen years now and playing the professional game along and

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Speaker 15: like I say, the amount of money our owner is

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Speaker 15: to put into the academy. And now the women's program

1241
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 15: is going great guns and that's going to be a

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Speaker 15: very very strong program next year. Look, we've been doing

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00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 15: a lot of the hard work, but it's now great.

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 15: Auckland's come on board. They've done well. Football is really

1245
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 15: going somewhere. The all whites are doing well, the fans

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00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 15: are doing well. It's going to be the future is

1247
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 15: very bright for the next five teen years off the

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00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 15: back of what you know we've been doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant. Hey listen, good luck. I hope you guys

1250
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Speaker 2: win and I'm looking forward to watching it in David Dome,

1251
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix General Manager. Well football is football really is

1252
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: coming of ages. And there's a store on Ponsonby Road

1253
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: which is a cool man's store. So it's I live

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00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: in that part of Auckland and they've got they've got

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Speaker 2: on display in the windows the old Auckland Football Club,

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Speaker 2: you know, T shirts for the kids and stuff like that,

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00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: and it seems to be like people love it. People

1258
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: are buying it all the time. I bought a couple

1259
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: for the nephews for Christmas. Very lucky did not expect

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Speaker 2: to have to pay that much. And I had to

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: wait for them to be bought in because they they

1262
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: had already sold out of them. So something is something

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00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: is going on with football in this country and I

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Speaker 2: quite appreciate it. Right, Let's wrap the work of the

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Speaker 2: It has been a long week, isn't it. It has

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Speaker 2: been two thirty makes it a long week. Let's wrap

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Speaker 2: the week next with Trish and Tim and then we'll

1268
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: head off to Australia and find out more about what

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00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 2: Mark Latham has been up to again. News Togs, the bers.

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Speaker 1: Person, the News and the Newsmakers and the Dupla c

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Speaker 1: Ellen on the mic asking Breakfast with the land Rover, Discovery,

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Speaker 1: never stop discovering News Dogs Head be.

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Speaker 3: Cap Can you catch yourself?

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Speaker 14: And you fall?

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Speaker 15: You should be careful?

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Speaker 2: Do you catch This is arguably one of the worst

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Speaker 2: days of my husband's life because this band is wet

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Speaker 2: Leg and he hates them with a passion because they're

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Speaker 2: the band that sings that song Shay's Long, where they

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01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: just repeat Shase Long multiple multiple times. Anyway, they've got

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Speaker 2: a new album. It's not just the two birds anymore.

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: They've added some other people. They've added basically they're touring members. Henry,

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Speaker 2: Alice and Josh have added been added to the lineup

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01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: with Hester and Rheann. The expanded lineup lets them stretch

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Speaker 2: their sound to express the different flavors of love. These

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01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: are love songs for people who don't want to fall

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Speaker 2: in love, made by a band that sounds more comfortable

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: in its skin than ever. And the album's called Moisturizer.

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Speaker 2: And if we still could buy CDs, I would be

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Speaker 2: buying us on the way home and I present it

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Speaker 2: to him and I'd say, have a happy day, and

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Speaker 2: he would not with me.

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Speaker 1: Not a week in review with two degrees fighting for

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Speaker 1: fear for Kiwi Business.

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Speaker 2: At eight past eight, we have Tris Sharson and Tim Wilson. Hello,

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Speaker 2: are you too, Trish? You are listening to that? Is

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Speaker 2: that a bit of something for you?

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 11: It's absolutely not a bit of something for me.

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 21: I mean, I'm not opposed though, to a song that

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01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 21: does just repeat the same lyric over and over. I

1302
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 21: remember that great track. I'm sixy and I know it.

1303
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 14: That's great.

1304
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 21: I could listen to that all day.

1305
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: Fills your cup, that wonder. But I don't know about

1306
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: Shay's long Tim, why don't you have any Wi Fi?

1307
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 14: Because I'm sitting in the swift outside I've got an

1308
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 14: audiology appointment at eight thirty, so I'm just I'm just

1309
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 14: doing it old school.

1310
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: Sam says, you can get Wi Fi on your phone?

1311
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: Can you get Wi Fi on your phone?

1312
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 14: I don't know, Sam. Sam said, oh, this is a

1313
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 14: boomer moment. I'm like, hang on, I'm actually gen x.

1314
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 14: I sit between boomers and millennials and judge both.

1315
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: Is something wrong with your ears? By the way, Tim.

1316
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 14: Bit of Tonight's.

1317
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's annoying. Actually, I think I've heard people who

1318
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: have tonight. Do you know that John John what's his name?

1319
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: Too good from she had had tonight as that was

1320
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: so bad it almost drove a mental Did you know that?

1321
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 14: Oh my goodness, my goodness, I didn't realize that. Hey,

1322
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 14: can I just just agree with what you said about

1323
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 14: the Woolies Disney disc Thank god?

1324
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: Okay?

1325
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 15: Going?

1326
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 14: Can we can we go there? Because I'll tell you what,

1327
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 14: I don't know what they're for. And also it's the packaging.

1328
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 14: I had to order some of the Philistines to go

1329
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 14: and pick up the packaging from the Disney discs. Just

1330
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 14: the other day because they just left them on the couch.

1331
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 14: Can I give another Woolies grizzle? Okay? So why did

1332
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 14: they reverse on the f POSS savings and check account?

1333
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 14: Because what you do is, you know, you're in a dream,

1334
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 14: You're in the supermarket. You go in, you swipe your

1335
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 14: card and you just select the first one. And what

1336
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 14: they said they flipped it. Are people now using their

1337
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 14: savings accounts to pay for groceries? I don't know, but

1338
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 14: they flipped it.

1339
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: And just really that your muscle memory means heading the

1340
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: wrong one the whole time.

1341
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 14: Correct, I've recorrected because I'm in I'm a genexa.

1342
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 21: Starting to sound like a session down at Senior Net.

1343
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 21: You know, can't get on the Wi Fi. You don't

1344
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 21: read the words that the pass.

1345
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: Don't understand the discs at all, and I think.

1346
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 21: We need to weel out a nice milky tea and

1347
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 21: a scone for them just to settle them into the

1348
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 21: first session.

1349
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 14: Is there going to be butter on that scone.

1350
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: At which we cannot afford? Tris? Can you please give

1351
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 2: me your take though on those discs? Because I can't

1352
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: understand the discs and you are actually adjacent to the

1353
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: supermarket game and they suck as a giveaway, don't they.

1354
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 21: Well, I'm going to let you in on a little

1355
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 21: secret here, and I actually thought we should for just

1356
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 21: for me, when I fill in on this slot, we

1357
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 21: should actually call this tea in my Fridays because I

1358
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 21: had this problem with Fridays where you know your end

1359
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 21: of the week and you had quite stretch a week

1360
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 21: and then they sort of release the pressure valve and

1361
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 21: you end up telling people too much information on a Friday.

1362
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 21: And I thought, today that is really not going to

1363
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 21: be good because I'm off to the big China Business Summit,

1364
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 21: and I thought, God, what on earth's going to pop

1365
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 21: out at the You know, you've got the networking sort

1366
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 21: of times, your morning tea, your lunch, et cetera. That

1367
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 21: it's not going to be great on a TMI Friday

1368
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 21: for trash. But anyway, I digress. I have to leave

1369
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 21: you a little personal secret. I am never allowed to

1370
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 21: do the grocery shopping. Don't do the grocery shopping so

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 21: and the reason for that is sloppy sort of cash

1372
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 21: and budget management. So I go to the supermarket and

1373
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 21: unlike other people, I don't really.

1374
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: Have a list.

1375
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 21: And then I wander along and normally I go through

1376
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 21: the eyes and it's normally it's always in the personal

1377
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 21: care aile you get stung, you think I'll go for

1378
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 21: the flash moisturizer and go to the you know, the

1379
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 21: body wash looks great. And then you get home and

1380
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 21: then the person who is in charge of the groceries

1381
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 21: likes to do a sort of a full audit and

1382
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 21: risk what is in risk around what's happened, why the

1383
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 21: total is what it is, and why there's actually nothing

1384
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 21: to eat. So I haven't seen the disks, don't know

1385
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 21: about about it.

1386
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 14: Sounds like the way you shop, you'd probably come home

1387
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 14: with about four hundred Disney discs. So if you could

1388
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 14: you send them to our place please.

1389
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 3: You're collecting them.

1390
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 2: I can send them to you as well.

1391
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 14: I send them to us because they are collected.

1392
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: Because you had tim. I've got some fantastic news for you.

1393
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: According to the text machine, the buttons have been changed back.

1394
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: And the reason they did it in the first place

1395
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: was because that's the Australian way of doing it, and

1396
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: they thought, oh, they all sound the same in New

1397
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: Zealand and Australia. The South Americans thought that and They

1398
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: were like, don't worry about it. Just give them the

1399
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: same kind of numbers and then it's not it's not

1400
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: the same for us.

1401
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 14: Do you keep doing that accent?

1402
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 10: It's funny.

1403
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: It just sounds like my mother when I do that. Hey,

1404
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: is the weird Actually, I want to talk. We'll take

1405
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: a break and I want to come back to you

1406
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: guys and talk about the malatonein thing, because it's got

1407
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: to be the weirdest thing that happened this week. I

1408
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: think Trishrson Tim Wilson doing the week thirteen past eight the.

1409
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, car it.

1410
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: By News, It's sixteen past eight, a week in.

1411
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the

1412
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: table bag.

1413
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: Was Trician Tim Tim, I think that the melatonin rule

1414
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: change was the dumbest thing this week. What do you

1415
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: think it?

1416
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 14: Didn't see they didn't seem to offer much evidence, did they.

1417
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 14: They just said, oh, the doctor overseas said it was

1418
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 14: the right idea, so we should do it a sleep.

1419
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 14: The experts said, oh, it's not that much problem. The

1420
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 14: union said they didn't really ask us about I mean,

1421
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 14: where's the evidence for this? That's it just seems like

1422
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 14: a ruling and we're done.

1423
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: Do you ever use the Trisha? You ever use the melatonin?

1424
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 21: No funny little fun fact about Trisherson. But sleep is

1425
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 21: actually my superpower. I can even in an afternoon, I could.

1426
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 14: Not shopping but sleep.

1427
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 21: Well, well that's because I'm exhausted from the shopping. But

1428
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 21: I could literally just lie on the floor, have a

1429
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 21: twenty minute nap, get up at night. I have at

1430
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 21: least nine and a half to ten hours sleep a night.

1431
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 21: I'm like him, I'm like a baby. But the funny

1432
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 21: thing with the melatonin is it's actually it's a hormone.

1433
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 14: Not a drug.

1434
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 21: So it did seem weird to me when there are

1435
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 21: a lot of other sort of supplementy things people are

1436
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 21: taking for sleep as well.

1437
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what trash Now. I've discussed your sleep,

1438
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: your sleep requirements with you in the past because I

1439
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 2: share this necessity of nine like nine ashes about where

1440
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: I need to strike. I didn't realize this until I started,

1441
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: you know, on occasion covering for Mike. But if you

1442
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 2: have a nap in the day, because your wake windows

1443
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: are shorter, you can actually get by with less sleep.

1444
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1445
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get like a six hour slot overnight,

1446
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: and then you can go, you can go, I can

1447
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: go kind of ten hours, and then you do an

1448
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: hour and a half and then you can go another

1449
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: six hours away. Can you just keep doing that? I

1450
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: mean maybe in the long run you eventually like sort

1451
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: of wither away and die. Do you know what I mean?

1452
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: Because there's just nothing left. You're like so sleep deprived,

1453
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: but it is possible you don't even need the melatonin.

1454
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 14: Well wait, wait, you guys are begging me for not

1455
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 14: knowing about Wi fi talking about tonight and it's gone,

1456
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 14: and then you go off on the Sleep brand.

1457
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 21: Come on, everybody, Sleep is a new sleep as the

1458
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 21: new blackness.

1459
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: Smart watch, you know the devices for sleep?

1460
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 14: Do you know?

1461
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: You're just so sleep deprived from having like five hundred children,

1462
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: you can't even remember what it feels like to have sleep,

1463
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: you know.

1464
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 14: You know what, Actually, the boys, my wife Rachel, had

1465
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 14: had a terrible sleeper yes yesterday, and so you know

1466
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 14: what the boys did. They decided to give her breakfast

1467
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 14: in bed. So they rode out the menu from the

1468
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 14: Hotel Wilson and the what was on the menu was

1469
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 14: crumpets and Dorito's and she loved it.

1470
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: What else could you possibly want?

1471
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 21: You're getting quite some early ROI on your children term.

1472
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 10: Longer.

1473
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 14: Well, actually, actually Roman dimmed delights, lit candles in the

1474
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 14: in the lounge yesterday evening and gave us both the massage.

1475
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 14: He's ten.

1476
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, your children are awesome.

1477
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 9: Tim.

1478
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 2: Listen on the open playing classroom. Do your kids go

1479
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: to schools with open plans? Have they got the scene yourselves?

1480
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: No?

1481
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 9: No.

1482
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 14: My wife's a teacher and I was running this by here.

1483
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 14: She said, the optimum number of kids in the classroom

1484
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 14: is fifteen because you can individualize learning and you get

1485
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 14: more one on one experience. Open plan was just crazy.

1486
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: It was crazy, wasn't it tricual? I mean, I'm reading

1487
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people who are going no, actually, it

1488
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: was a great idea. You don't understand. It's complex, but

1489
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

1490
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 21: Well, depending on which way you look at it, I

1491
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 21: am either a success or a failure of open playing

1492
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 21: classrooms because when I started school at Ocenary Primary in

1493
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 21: nineteen seventy eight, it was a country school with only

1494
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 21: one classroom. You had everyone in there, from the new

1495
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 21: entrance to the big form twos. The most people we

1496
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 21: ever had at our school in one year was twenty

1497
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 21: one and the smallest role we had was eight kids

1498
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 21: one year. So I went right through open plan and yeah,

1499
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 21: I mean I think I tuned out fine.

1500
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: It turned out absolutely fine listening.

1501
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 3: Did you get wonderfully?

1502
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tricia, I've got to ask you this. I'm afraid

1503
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 2: that I'm going to get in trouble. But is it

1504
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: okay if you have your eighteenth birthday party in Spain

1505
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: to hire people with dwarphism for the entertainment if they

1506
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: consent to it.

1507
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 21: Well, I saw this story this morning and I thought, well,

1508
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 21: there's a hole that both Tim and I could stumble into.

1509
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 21: Feels like sort of cancel country to me. So I

1510
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 21: consulted not an eighteen year old in my house, but

1511
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 21: a twenty year old who normally advises me on sort

1512
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 21: of pitfalls that I might not otherwise see as a

1513
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 21: gen xer, and she said, Mum, do absolutely not talk

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Speaker 21: about that. So I'm giving you the word from my

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Speaker 21: senior advisor.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Tim, Well, yeah, I mean if you ask Roman

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Speaker 2: quickly what he thinks, Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, I think yeah, those the people who attended

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Speaker 14: who were you know who have this syndrome. They said

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Speaker 14: it was fine, they were happy to be there. An

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Speaker 14: organization that forports to represent them says, oh, it's no good.

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Speaker 14: There's obviously a division of responses there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, guys, thank you very much, appreciate it. And

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Speaker 2: Trisha enjoy your your China business breakfast or whatever you have,

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Speaker 2: and the tim enjoy your audiology appointment and hopefully you

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Speaker 2: manage to reverse whatever damage you've done to you is

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Speaker 2: that's Tris Shurs and Tim Wilson are reviewing the week

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Speaker 2: it works.

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Speaker 2: vitamin C and a delicious smell, So go for it.

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Speaker 3: Heather dupas Olut, good morning head.

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Speaker 2: I'm absolutely sick and tired of hearing about butter every

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: time I turn on the radio. Can we move on?

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Speaker 11: Do you know what?

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01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: So am I? But can we move on? Nothing is

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01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: ever going to change? Well, Nikola Willis has got a

1563
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 2: meeting with Fonterra next week, so you never know. Things

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01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 2: may in fact change. I am being sarcastic. Nothing's going

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01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: to change. By the way, do you remember how Anthony

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: Albanez he pulled all that money into the Papua New

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01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: Guinea NRL team in order to try to stave off

1568
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: and they were all these like deep all these clauses.

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: Part of the deal was to keep Beijing influence out.

1570
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately for them, the chairman of that new super New

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01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: Rugby League franchise has just been out at his facing

1572
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: corruption concerns involving a Chinese company, so that hasn't worked

1573
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: very well for Albanize. Will have a chat to Steve

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: Price about that when he's with us shortly. It's eight

1575
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: twenty six now on the Epstein thing, which is remarkable

1576
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: because it continues to roll on for Donald Trump. Of

1577
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: all the things that is plaguing him, this is plaguing him.

1578
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: What's interesting is how many people who've been raving about

1579
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: Epstein have now gone quiet since Trump told them to

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: stop talking about it. So on Sunday night, you'll remember

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01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: he issued that statement and he said not to waste

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Speaker 2: any more time and energy on it. And apparently at

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01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: Fox News they listened to that. Epstein's name was only

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01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: brought up eight times the following day. All of Monday,

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: they only mentioned him eight times, and the first time

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Speaker 2: they mentioned him was after six o'clock in the evening,

1587
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: which is interesting because they have been going hard on

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01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 2: Epstein for the longest time. And they named check Joe Biden,

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01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: who's not even in power anymore, one hundred and fifty

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: eight times in the same day. Jesse Watters, who's honor

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Speaker 2: at eight, is obsessed with it, like he's completely obsessed

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: with Epstein. He didn't mention it at all himself during

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: the show. There was one mention when his producer was

1594
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 2: out interviewing beach goers. And what makes it more remarkable, obviously,

1595
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: is everybody around the world is talking about it, but

1596
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: apparently not the guys at Fox News. So you go,

1597
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: it's possible to shut it down if you just told

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Speaker 2: them to shut up. News is next.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day. Heather

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Speaker 1: duper c Allen on the mic, asking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: Real Estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural news talks.

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Speaker 2: Head behither you need to start your own conspiracy theory podcast?

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 2: Don't even Actually that's not idea. They are in this

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01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 2: particular business trying to you know, we're trying to expand

1605
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: into podcasts. Everybody knows that we're doing that. And I

1606
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,839
Speaker 2: have been wondering, what could I possibly do a podcast

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: on that I don't already do it radio show on

1608
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: and in Conspiracy theory is not a terrible idea. I

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: love a conspiracy theory. I mean, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: that's going to do for my my already flimsy reputation.

1611
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: But we'll see. Listen, Chloe Swallbrick, something funny is going

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01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 2: on with the Chloe Swallbrick film. You know, this is

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: the one that they were going to put money into.

1614
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to run you through that short because I

1615
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: don't know if are we ever going to see this thing?

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Speaker 2: Twenty two away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Steve price Ossy corresponding with US Morning, Steve, get over that.

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01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: Now I see that this trip, this elbow trip to China,

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Speaker 2: has been labeled indulgent.

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Speaker 10: Why well, James Patterson, the opposition says that what Anthony

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 10: Alberdizi has done over the last couple of days and

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01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 10: probably claries are not following it as closely as we are.

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01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 10: But he went out to the Great Wall of China

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Speaker 10: with his fiance Jodi, and there was pictures of them

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Speaker 10: obviously walking along this major tourist attraction. Why is that

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 10: seen as indulgent? Well, back in nineteen seventy two, then

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Speaker 10: Prime Minister Goff Whitlam, who was actually it was before

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Speaker 10: he was PMS, who was opposition leader in the early seventies,

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Speaker 10: went to China and walked on the wall and there's

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Speaker 10: famous pitches and it was the beginning of Dayton between

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Speaker 10: Australia and China. And Anthony Albanezi obviously was raised at

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Speaker 10: the foot of the Great Man GoF with them, and

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01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 10: so this was quite an emotional thing for him to

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Speaker 10: go and do, to reprise what the great leader back

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 10: then had done. He also went off to the zoo

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01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 10: to see the pandas which it does all sound a

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01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 10: little bit like a holiday rather than a major trip

1640
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 10: with the EPMs come out and gone and hang on

1641
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 10: a minute. You know, I've been here six days. He's

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01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 10: filing back to Australia by the way as we speak.

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 10: He said that he has met the appropriate people, he's

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 10: talked about business, he's obviously had his meeting with g

1645
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 10: and he believes that he's achieved quite a bit. He

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 10: argues that the visit to China has further standing among

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01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 10: everyday Chinese people, I mean every day Chinese people, even

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 10: though who he is probably not. He says, these pictures

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01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 10: go to twenty seven million people in Australia. Well, yeah

1650
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 10: they do, and we're going through a cost of living crisis.

1651
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 10: Most people can't play their mortgage and youngsters can't buy houses.

1652
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 10: So I'm not sure that they're all that interested in

1653
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 10: whether you go to see the pandas or go for

1654
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 10: a walk on the wall. But these trips, look, I'm

1655
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 10: never cooked overly critical of them. They're necessary. Australia does

1656
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 10: quite a bit of business in China. We see a

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 10: lot of wine and crayfish, and we know what happened

1658
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 10: during COVID heather when they shut all that down. So look,

1659
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 10: he's probably achieved something. He's bigger problem now as he

1660
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 10: comes back to Australia and everyone will go, well, that

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01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 10: was good. When are you going to see Donald Trump?

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01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 14: That's his problem?

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01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: Fair enough. And obviously back in Australia, you guys have

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Speaker 2: got those economic problems with the jobless rate going up

1665
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: and so on. Do you think it means you get

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: a cut from the RBA next time?

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 10: Well, it looks like it, and that's what the economists

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01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 10: are predicting, although the same economists didn't predict what was

1669
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 10: going to happen with the unemployment rate. Thirty four thousand

1670
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 10: jobs lost in June. Unemployment rates at four point three percent.

1671
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 10: That's the highest level since twenty twenty one. Only two

1672
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 10: thousand new jobs redded to the economy. The economists expected

1673
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 10: twenty thousand jobs. This is very interesting for me because

1674
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 10: I know a lot of people, particularly in the media

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01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 10: industry in that form of show, the project I worked on,

1676
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 10: have lost jobs in recent months. And I keep saying, well,

1677
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 10: hang on, I know a lot of businesses going broke alone,

1678
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 10: a lot of people losing jobs outside media as well,

1679
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 10: And how come the unemployment rate hasn't changed. Well, I

1680
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 10: think it's starting now to catch up, and I think

1681
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 10: we're going to see a real winter of discontent with

1682
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 10: people losing work Parliament and by the way, goes back

1683
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 10: on Monday. They haven't sat, well, I'll sit on Tuesday.

1684
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 10: They haven't actually sat since the election on May three.

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01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 10: You know, while we're all out here busting our backsides

1686
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 10: to earn a dollar, the politicians have all been swamming

1687
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 10: around the country doing nothing, or around the world.

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Speaker 2: As it turns out, would you swim? Would you swim

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Speaker 2: in the Era?

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Speaker 10: You're kidding. I mean, I'm going to talk to Hosky

1691
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 10: about this on Monday, but I mean, seriously, he knows Melbourne. Well,

1692
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 10: you die before you jump in there. I mean, the

1693
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 10: only people who jumped in the river voluntarily and this

1694
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 10: was started by American tennis star Jim Currier is people

1695
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 10: who win the Australian Open tennis in January. Can you

1696
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 10: imagine today is going to be five degrees in Melbourne?

1697
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 10: And it's not just the temperature though. I've got two

1698
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 10: daughters who are rowers, and they would come home and

1699
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 10: tell me Dad, I saw another dead dog in the

1700
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 10: Era today when we were steering the boat past our competitors.

1701
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 10: I mean, there's been dead bodies and cars. There's open

1702
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 10: drains drained into it. This bloke, Nick g Reecee is

1703
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 10: the Lord Mayor. He's also about to go off on

1704
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 10: an overseas trip. He says, Oh no, look at the

1705
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 10: same which they've now opened for swimming. You remember during

1706
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 10: the Olympic Games with people who had died swimming in

1707
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 10: the in the say that was closed in nineteen twenty

1708
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 10: three and just open to the Olympics. This bloke's got

1709
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 10: rocks in his head if he thinks anyone with any

1710
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 10: sense would go swimming in the Ara River.

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds gress. Now these allegations that have just

1712
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: swirled all week against Mark Latham, what happens next? I mean,

1713
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: how long can he weather this? Do you think?

1714
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 10: This is a guy who was a halfbet away from

1715
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 10: being Prime Minister, the leader of the Labor Party. He

1716
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 10: lost the election to John Howard because he aggressively grabbed

1717
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 10: him in a very famous handshake out side of radio studio,

1718
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 10: and that killed his chances. He's been in a relationship

1719
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 10: with a woman. He has now been subjected to a

1720
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 10: number of fowl allegations which he denies clearly by the

1721
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 10: partner that he was then with. He's a member of

1722
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 10: the New South Wales Upper House. Now the New South Wales'

1723
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 10: Upper House does nothing, So from a political point of view,

1724
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 10: it doesn't matter whether lat and Zee or not. It's

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 10: a typically grubby Sydney's story that makes my flesh crawl,

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01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 10: quite frankly. And if the allegations have any substance to

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01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 10: them that he says they don't, then police should investigate it.

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01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 10: And if police investigate it and find it to be correct,

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01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 10: they will then do the right team.

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Speaker 2: Yea, it says a lot that the police have chosen

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01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 2: not to investigate I suppose Steve, thank you very much,

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01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 2: appreciate it, enjoy your weekend. That is Steve Price, Ossie correspondent.

1733
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, on that business with the Air

1734
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: India jet crash, which has kind of been bubbling away

1735
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: because you know, they released the audio files and everybody

1736
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: was like, well what does this tell us? It tells

1737
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: us nothing. We're as confused as we were before. A

1738
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: bit more clarification now has come through. It was the

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: captain who turned the fuel supply off. It was the

1740
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: junior pilots. Because in it somebody asks somebody, why did

1741
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: you turn that off? And they say I didn't. It

1742
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: was the junior pilot who's asking why did you turn

1743
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: off the fuel supply? It was the captain who was

1744
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: calm and said he didn't. The junior guy realized what

1745
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: was going on, was panicking and then ten seconds after

1746
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: it was turned off, it was turned back on. Also,

1747
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: Air India is under a significant amount of pressure, as

1748
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: you can imagine, because of what's going on. It's check now.

1749
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: It's gone and checked all of the boeings in its fleet,

1750
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: found no issues with any of the fuel switches. So

1751
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: focus is back on the captain. Sixteen away from nine,

1752
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: the Mike.

1753
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By News

1754
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: talks at be Heather.

1755
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: Why are people from New Zealand going to Australia if,

1756
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: as Steve Price says, they're having job problems, one wanders Lynn,

1757
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: that'll be because people the news hasn't reached people yet

1758
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: and they'll go over there and they will find that

1759
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 2: butter is more expensive over there, and in fact it's

1760
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: hard to get a job there too, and then who knows,

1761
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: go on to even greener pastors or perhaps come home now,

1762
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: Chloe Swabrick, something is going on with the film about

1763
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: Chloe Swarbrick. This is from media insider Shane Curry's thing

1764
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: that he does for The Herald. An excellent job. You

1765
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 2: remember this film, right, This is the film reasonably controversial

1766
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: because taxpayers put two hundred thousand dollars into a film

1767
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 2: about it a politician, which I still think is a

1768
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 2: bit I not call with that anyways, pick because it

1769
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: feels like picking sides. Anyway. This thing was due to

1770
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: be due to come out in twenty twenty three and

1771
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: it didn't come out, And here we are in twenty

1772
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: twenty five and it still hasn't come out. So the question,

1773
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 2: of course is when is it going to come out? Well,

1774
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: apparently no one really knows. It's all sort of hopes

1775
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 2: and guesses. At the moment. The director says hopefully later

1776
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: this year, but maybe early next year. New Zealand on

1777
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: Air says, no, it's absolutely going to be delivered this year.

1778
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 2: TV three, who are the ones who have the TV rights,

1779
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 2: They haven't got a date at all to tell us.

1780
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 2: The reasons why there is some sort of a delay

1781
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: is a mystery. No one is saying why it's been

1782
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: delayed so far, seventy five percent of the money that

1783
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: you and I have put into it, which works out

1784
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars has already been spent.

1785
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 2: The film was supposed to be called Being Chloe. It's

1786
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: now something else, but they won't tell us what it's called.

1787
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: So now the question is, well, if what happens next year,

1788
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: what's the big thing? Oh, that's right, yes, an election.

1789
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: So this would be a bit weird if a film

1790
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: paid for by the taxpayer about one of the political

1791
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: leaders comes out in the same year that we're having

1792
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 2: a contest where we're going to pick between the political leaders.

1793
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? That'll be a bit strange,

1794
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: isn't it. So they were asked about that. The director said,

1795
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,919
Speaker 2: I think you could ask these questions of my producer

1796
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: if you want, but we will be making sure that

1797
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: doesn't happen. The producer, Letitia Tate Dunning, did not respond

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01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: to messages.

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01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 3: Is any what I.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we get it, maybe we don't. Let's see what happens. Hey, Now,

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01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: I don't often give a shout out to labor, and

1802
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: that's not a me problem. That's a labor problem. You know,

1803
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: like they're going to have to do things that are

1804
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: worthwhile in order to get a shout out, and I

1805
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 2: think it's not the labor of Helen Clark, is it nowadays?

1806
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: But anyway, just to shout out to them, because actually

1807
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: not a bad idea from them. Camilla Belich, who's one

1808
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 2: of their probably their stars, actually in the Labor Caucus,

1809
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: has got a member's bill drawn out of the biscuit

1810
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 2: and it's the pay transparency one. This is the one.

1811
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: Basically how it works is if you have a clause

1812
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 2: in your contract, which actually I think I do, so

1813
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to tell you how much I get paid.

1814
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to talk about it. Otherwise the employer

1815
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 2: is going to be angry with me. Her bill will

1816
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: override that, so it will no longer be enforceable by

1817
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: your employer. Now I think I personally I acknowledge that

1818
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: legislation that overrides contracts is not awesome. So that's not awesome.

1819
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: But I still think it's a good idea because I

1820
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: always feel that your pay is your information and not

1821
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: actually your employers. You own that particular information about yourself,

1822
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: so if you want to talk about it, you can,

1823
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 2: and more importantly you do, don't you you talk of

1824
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 2: evil anyway, even though you're not supposed to do, so

1825
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: what's the point in it? And in which case you

1826
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: get rid of it? So Yeah, labors come up with

1827
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: the idea, national supporting it, probably going to pass. I

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01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 2: think it's a great idea. Nine away from nine Hither.

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01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: Duper c Allen on the my casking Breakfast with Bailey's

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01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: real Estate News Dogs.

1831
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: Then be Hey News just out in very sad news.

1832
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 2: Moo from Fat Fitty's Drop has died.

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01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 9: Moo.

1834
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: He is one of the founders. He's the one who

1835
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: is reasonably famous in the band actually for doing the

1836
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: DJ work. That's just news coming through and no further

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01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: detail on that at the moment, although I'm sure as

1838
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: as more detail comes to hand it will be brought

1839
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 2: to you by news talks they'd be It's six away

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01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: from nine.

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01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Warehouse great savings every day.

1842
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: Man, is there a scandal on the internet this morning.

1843
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna paint you a picture of what happened in

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01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: the early hours overnight. Okay, we're at a cold Play concert.

1845
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: It's in Boston, and if you've ever been to a

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01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: cold Play concert, were if you were there when it

1847
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: happened here in Auckland. You'll know that they do the

1848
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: kisscam during the concert. So Chris Martin has got the

1849
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: kisscam going on around and he's commenting on a couple

1850
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: of kisscam moments, and the camera pans to a couple

1851
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: and it's a lovely scene. Man is standing there, she's

1852
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 2: standing directly in front of him, got his arms wrapped

1853
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: around her. She's cuddling into her. They're a good looking couple,

1854
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 2: great kind of you know, like middle aged. He's graying,

1855
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: nice short haircut. She's got long hairs but going a

1856
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: bit gray. But they're good looking people. At this point

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01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: they realize they are on camera. There are arms released

1858
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: from each other. Immediately, she hides her face. She turns away,

1859
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: literally drops to the floor and ducks down behind the

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01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: seats in an attempt not to be seen.

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01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of these people, all right, every one rookie.

1862
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 13: But I what.

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01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 5: Either they're having an affair or it's a great shun.

1864
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: Either they're having an affair, they're just very shy. Well,

1865
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: the internet can answer that question for you because it

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01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,799
Speaker 2: worked very quickly. The man is Andy Byron, the CEO

1867
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 2: of billion dollar company Astronomer. The woman is Kristin Cabot,

1868
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 2: the HR chief of Astronomer. Both of them are married,

1869
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: not to each other. Neither of them has commented on

1870
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 2: the video. So far. Byron has deleted all of his

1871
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: social media and his wife has removed her last name I. E.

1872
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: Byron from all of her accounts and has made them private.

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01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: So there's a life lesson in there somewhere. Depending on

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01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 2: which part of that life lesson you want to learn,

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01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: it's either don't go to Coldplay, don't have an affair,

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01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: don't have an affair and go to Coldplay. At the

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01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 2: same time, if you're gonna have an a fair, don't

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01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: be at a concert. There's lots of lots of lessons, And.

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01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 12: There's an interesting choice of date, isn't it if you

1880
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 12: are having an affair, to go to you know, somewhere

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01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 12: where there are hundreds of well tens of thousands of people.

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01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 2: And the camera. Yeah, it was riskue. It was riskue,

1883
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 2: and look look at how it paid off. Hey, do

1884
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: you know earlier in the week I was telling you

1885
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 2: about my boss's dog going to the hotel. I told

1886
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: you on Monday, boss's dog went to the hotel. It

1887
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: was the qt in Auckland State. They had a wonderful time.

1888
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 2: The boss has got it. There's an Instagram account after that.

1889
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: The instagram account collected a fair few followers. Actually, I

1890
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: am regretting to inform you that, in fact, there's a book.

1891
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 2: There is a book called Ernie and the Magic Kennel.

1892
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: Because the Boss used to work at a radio music station.

1893
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 2: They've got a lot of time in music radio. I

1894
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 2: don't know if you know that, And so they decided

1895
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,799
Speaker 2: to use their time to write a book. And actually,

1896
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 2: and the book has been given. The book has been

1897
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: given to Queen Elizabeth, and the book has gone around

1898
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 2: the world and a lot of people have the book.

1899
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm just opening page. Ernie is a corgy. He has

1900
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: a shiny crown, a fluffy bum and furry tum not

1901
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: far off the ground. Kennell is his castle. It's red

1902
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: and gold and green. He's very loyal, thinks he's royal,

1903
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 2: best friend of the Queen. That is actually good though,

1904
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 2: isn't it. Anyway? So I've got now I'm int on

1905
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 2: the dog thing and that's going straight to Iggy and

1906
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: the baby. Thank you for having me God buy one,

1907
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: by the way, thank you for having me on the show.

1908
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 2: Thank you for all of the lovely messages today, saying

1909
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: it's been a delight to have me. It's been more

1910
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: of a delight for me to be with you and

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01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 2: to discover what happens in this world. At two point

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Speaker 2: thirty at the morning, Mike is back with you. On Monday,

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01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: I'll be back on drive. Enjoy your weekend

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

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