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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matton Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 2: Full Show Pod number ninety four for Tuesday, the twenty

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Speaker 2: fourth of March twenty twenty five. Beautiful stories at the

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Speaker 2: end of people reconnecting their families via DNA. A shocking

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Speaker 2: story for me about my criminal past while my ancestors

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Speaker 2: dodgy behavior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was shocking. It was quite lued, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: And then there's some vikings that come through and threatened

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Speaker 2: to burn down some monasteries. And we've got an ancestor

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Speaker 2: of Genghis Khn that comes through.

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Speaker 3: The great great, great great great great granddaughter of Ginger's Khn.

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought the great great great ga great

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Speaker 2: great great great great great great great great great great granddaughter.

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Speaker 2: So that's worth waiting for that and some other topics

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look forward to that.

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Speaker 2: It's a doozy set to download, follow, subscribe all those

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Speaker 2: great things. If you don't mind, tell a friend and look,

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Speaker 2: if you like it, why not give this bugger a review? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a bunch of Great New Zealander's going to tastey key.

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Speaker 2: We love you, See you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between.

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Speaker 4: Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo.

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Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort,

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Speaker 3: Well, good afternoon, Welcome into the show. Seven past one.

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Speaker 3: Hope you're doing well. If you're listening in the country,

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Speaker 3: great day of your company has always Met and Tyler

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Speaker 3: with you until four pm. Get a Maddie, get a Tyler,

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Speaker 3: Get everyone now. Can I just mention something? It's apropos

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Speaker 3: of nothing, but crickets in Auckland are so freaking loud

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Speaker 3: When I went outside to let the dog do her

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Speaker 3: business and it just sounded like a freaking concert. It

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Speaker 3: was so freaking loud, those black crickets. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it just me? No, they are really loud here.

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Speaker 2: I was making a television show once for some people

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Speaker 2: overseas and we sent the filming over there and they said,

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Speaker 2: there's just terrible static in your audio. It's terrible audio.

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Speaker 2: And we were trying to work out what it was,

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Speaker 2: crickets are loud. Here's white noise to orpen. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's very very warm at the moment, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know they having a good time the cricket,

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Speaker 2: And they're ridiculously loud a cricket, just one cricket considering

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they attracted other crickets.

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Speaker 2: What do you doing?

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Speaker 3: Loving against you?

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Speaker 2: Just keep it down down which on a sleep? Have

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Speaker 3: We'll do that next time. Right on to today's show

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock twenty three and me. You may know

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Speaker 3: this website. It's gone bankrupt, but it was one of

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Speaker 3: lineage via your DNA, of course, and we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a chat about obviously, what happens to your data if

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Speaker 3: may be of concern to you, but we also want

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Speaker 3: to take it a bit wider than that and have

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Speaker 3: a chat about your stories. If you've done one of

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Speaker 3: those ancestry dot Com, twenty three and me websites, what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny when you look back and you find

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Speaker 2: I found out some very interesting stuff about my heritage

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Speaker 2: when my sister decided to do it. Yep, looking forward,

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Speaker 2: I don't quite believe it, but you know it's going

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Speaker 3: After three o'clock. After two o'clock, fest of all failures

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Speaker 3: has promptly calls for a bit of a shake up

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's an interesting situation that you might not know.

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Speaker 2: When you go to the Ticke Techs and the ticket masters.

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Speaker 2: The money is held by that company until it's given

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Speaker 3: right now, let's have a chat about what they're calling pleasure.

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Speaker 3: But what Matt has called a waliday, which I kind

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Speaker 3: So they said sixty four percent of kiwis I wanted

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Speaker 2: Just before we go on, are they cicadas that you're

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Speaker 2: different things? Nineteen ninety two, someone will tell me I

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Speaker 2: feel like they're cicadas. Mate. Anyway, I'm off the topic. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can just zone people. Why are we even having

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I love a business trip as

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Speaker 2: I would hang on a minute, What business do you

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Speaker 3: That's why I love.

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Speaker 2: There's no business that needs Tyler Adams flying overseas.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's sending me anywhere. So when I get the small

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Speaker 2: What business strip to visit your parents? And Nelson?

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Speaker 2: No, But do we actually need them anymore? What are

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Speaker 2: the advantages on business trips?

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Speaker 2: What do you get that you that you don't get

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Speaker 2: But you know, once you've got kids and such, it's

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Speaker 2: need business trips at all? Overseas trips?

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Speaker 3: What do you feel about business trips? Do you think

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Speaker 2: Make I love them, Yeah, I love them, but I

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Speaker 3: But honesty call, do you think they add? There's value

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Speaker 3: to face time with a client or whatever, it may be,

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Speaker 3: clearly there's some value.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important with any business to talk up

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Speaker 2: I did last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be very honest. Today I had one hundred

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Speaker 2: Crickets at night, cicadas during the day. The chirping ones

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Speaker 3: And are those crickets only in the North Island nine

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I had one hundred eighty ten eighty work trips.

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Speaker 3: Could you do that over zoomah?

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Speaker 2: And also if you want to share some details of

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Speaker 3: Yep, we're all about that. Ninety two ninety two is

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. It is sixteen past one, and we're talking

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Speaker 3: about work trips. They're calling them pleasure, which is mixing

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Speaker 3: business with leisure. So Flight Center did a survey and

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Speaker 3: found sixty four percent of key we respondents wanted to

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Speaker 3: work trips a pleasure, pleasure or a waladay as.

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Speaker 2: You like to call it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For the youngest workers gen Z, seventy four percent showed

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Speaker 3: interest in combining business and leisure travel. So that's of

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Speaker 3: no surprise. Rarely that the younger workers would want to

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Speaker 2: If you if you're going on a business trip and

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Speaker 2: then you're shoving a holiday and the end of it,

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Speaker 2: was it really a business trip or did you go

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Speaker 2: over Because if it was a business trip, wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: to get back to consolidate what you what you'd learned

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Speaker 2: over there, and tend to lean into the relationships for

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Speaker 3: I would have thought so.

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Speaker 2: But if you're going over there for a work trip

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Speaker 9: Since two thousand and one. I've probably been on close

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Speaker 9: Nothing, There is nothing replaces standing in front of another

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Speaker 9: I love China.

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Speaker 3: And he sounded like he had a good time playing

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Speaker 2: Whether you go. This is what Marx is on nine

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Speaker 2: and you know, you know the idea and that the

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Speaker 3: Exactly. Oh e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 2: So this sexer says, I would never let my husband

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two. It is the text number. It's twenty

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Speaker 11: The wind farm was rejected under the previous government's fast

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Speaker 11: Train I know you're talking about it, right, So how

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Speaker 11: First of all, that's under Parker's old fast track provisions.

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Speaker 11: That was insanely stupid. What we've got under our fast

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Speaker 2: But then you've got these issues. For example, a council

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty nine past one, and we're talking about

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Speaker 2: That's right, and generally around whether you need to go

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Speaker 2: on these trips where you can just zoom. Mate, if

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Speaker 2: you're going to Europe for a three day conference, of

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Speaker 2: course you're going to take a week afterwards. Your maupet

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Speaker 2: You definitely want to. But does your work go Well,

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Speaker 3: On Yeah, you take advantage of a good week trip. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I did no work. I can't have it.

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Speaker 3: It was all the scam. That's what I'd see is

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Speaker 3: guys I would pay. I would downgrade rather the business

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Speaker 3: class flights, and then the company would pay for my

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Speaker 3: downtime and longest stay. That is a clever way to

443
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Speaker 3: do it. So if they're going to fly him business class,

444
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Speaker 3: say no, I don't worry about business. Just put me

445
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Speaker 3: in cattle and I'll take the extra cash and then

446
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Speaker 3: use it for holiday.

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Speaker 2: After Hey, guys had a global conference I was meant

448
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Speaker 2: to attend in Wales that was moved online at the

449
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Speaker 2: start of COVID kept it on Wales time, but ninety

450
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Speaker 2: percent plus of the attendees were from the rest of

451
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Speaker 2: the world. It was a mess that some people just

452
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Speaker 2: didn't show because it was the middle of the night,

453
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Speaker 2: and others that did turn up wanted an alternative outcome

454
00:20:48,613 --> 00:20:50,773
Speaker 2: for them to the Zoom would immediately turn to a

455
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Speaker 2: discussion of what time was best for everyone, and nothing

456
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Speaker 2: would get done. Yeah, I mean I'm being a little

457
00:20:57,213 --> 00:20:59,133
Speaker 2: bit facetious around the Zoom call because it is a

458
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Speaker 2: soulless experience the Zoom call. You know, you're not going

459
00:21:02,773 --> 00:21:06,133
Speaker 2: to have a meeting with someone on Zoom and then

460
00:21:06,533 --> 00:21:08,453
Speaker 2: you know, get to know them around their family and

461
00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:10,572
Speaker 2: what their real wants and needs are. And if it's

462
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Speaker 2: a sales trip, it's pretty good to make an actual

463
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Speaker 2: personal connection with people. Yeah, as opposed to just what's

464
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Speaker 2: as I was saying, for what said in the hour

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Speaker 2: that you're on Zoom.

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Speaker 3: With them, even in your own company, if your businesses

467
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Speaker 3: in different parts of New Zealand, the Zoom was. I mean,

468
00:21:27,093 --> 00:21:29,253
Speaker 3: it was the best on what we had, but it

469
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Speaker 3: was a terrible way to make connections. And I say

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Speaker 3: this as someone that was down in christ Church for

471
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Speaker 3: a long time just trying to make connections with people

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Speaker 3: I work with on a regular basis up here in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: It was nice enough, but you can't do the deep

474
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Speaker 3: dive into the bonding sessions via zoom, can you. It's

475
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Speaker 3: a very matter of fact cold way to have those

476
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Speaker 3: discussions rather than let's go and shoot down to the

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Speaker 3: pub and have a beer and talk it out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like when I was looking at getting you as my

480
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Speaker 2: assistant on the show, I flew down to christ Church

481
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Speaker 2: to see you face to face. Yeah, and I was

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Speaker 2: very disappointed. And I went back to management and I said, surely,

483
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Speaker 2: surely there's someone better, And they said no.

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Speaker 3: You pot all the wines on there on the credit card,

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Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, good, keep that coming. Oh and

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Leena. We're talking about work trips.

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Speaker 2: I'm blind way that that's a man that he put

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Speaker 2: his hand on, isn't it? That is what kind of

514
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Speaker 2: man complains about someone lightly touching their upper arm.

515
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Speaker 3: There is more to come out of that story, surely.

516
00:24:02,093 --> 00:24:06,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whenever, wasn't the stick to the topic.

517
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Speaker 3: We're going to fow that up the.

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Speaker 2: Topic, which is about work work trips. If you're going

519
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Speaker 2: to call these walladays or leisure trips, wouldn't drunk it

520
00:24:18,333 --> 00:24:21,773
Speaker 2: be more accurate? Isn't a drunken junket?

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this one says is Matt, are you

523
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Speaker 2: the leave police. You're entitled to use your leave whenever

524
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Speaker 2: you like? Basically cheers John, Yeah, John, absolutely you can

525
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Speaker 2: so if you I mean, this is the thing you

526
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Speaker 2: go on your trip overseas and then you add a

527
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks or a week on the end of it. Yeah,

528
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Speaker 2: But I'm just asking the question, do you need to

529
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Speaker 2: go at all And look, it's absolutely hypocritical because I've

530
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Speaker 2: done exactly this, and you know, and it's interesting here

531
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Speaker 2: because Caitlin laganan's consumer success manager at Jobs Marketplace Zeal,

532
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Speaker 2: said the ability to work remotely and blend business and

533
00:24:57,653 --> 00:25:02,493
Speaker 2: leisure travel was increasingly influencing job decisions. Job seekers are

534
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Speaker 2: looking for roles that allow them to integrate travel, remote

535
00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:07,973
Speaker 2: work and personal time seamlessly. I mean people are looking

536
00:25:08,013 --> 00:25:09,973
Speaker 2: for all of things, aren't they. Yeah, But I mean

537
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Speaker 2: that might be the reason why you take the job,

538
00:25:11,573 --> 00:25:13,813
Speaker 2: because there's a bit of travel absolutely, Yeah, you got

539
00:25:13,933 --> 00:25:15,613
Speaker 2: you got a conference in Europe. I'm going to go

540
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Speaker 2: and do a couple of other things on there. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 2: I get it.

542
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Speaker 3: And I don't think we're knocking the employee here as

543
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Speaker 3: you say. You've done it plenty of times and rarely

544
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Speaker 3: rense the company for all it's worth in terms of

545
00:25:26,293 --> 00:25:26,933
Speaker 3: the work trips.

546
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Speaker 2: But not this company.

547
00:25:28,373 --> 00:25:31,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, another company, another company, and they deserved it. But

548
00:25:31,493 --> 00:25:33,813
Speaker 3: if you're being offered one of these work trips, of

549
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Speaker 3: course you're going to take it, and of course you're

550
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Speaker 3: kind to try and extend it and add on an

551
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Speaker 3: extra couple of days But to the employers listening right now,

552
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Speaker 3: is it genuinely worth it to send your employees's way

553
00:25:44,613 --> 00:25:47,292
Speaker 3: to these work trips? Do you get new business out

554
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Speaker 3: of it? Is it better face to face of these

555
00:25:48,973 --> 00:25:52,413
Speaker 3: relationships that you cannot build online? One hundred and eighty

556
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Speaker 3: ten eighties and number to call keep any welcome to

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 5: Ok.

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Speaker 13: I went on this work trip to Subu and the

560
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Speaker 13: Philippines one day, one week, actually ten days, and I

561
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Speaker 13: think I was all I was looking forward to.

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Speaker 5: It was all that when.

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Speaker 13: Three g first came out and we're trying to introduce

564
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Speaker 13: three Gens in New Zealand and and it was all in.

565
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Speaker 13: It was all in Swedish.

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Speaker 2: The whole conference was in Swedish, the whole the whole thing.

567
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Speaker 13: Yeah, so but the whole conference was in Swedish. So

568
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Speaker 13: a couple of bossies and Kiwi boys. We spent ten

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Speaker 13: days on the beach.

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Speaker 2: So how did you report back on that? Did you

571
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Speaker 2: go this is all Swedish to me, I'm not getting

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Speaker 2: anything out of this.

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Speaker 13: We just we just collected the slide packs and yeah,

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Speaker 13: it was just all that big love and for the

575
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Speaker 13: Swedes from Erickson, and you know, I think it was

576
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Speaker 13: just an excuse to drink lots of snaps in the

577
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Speaker 13: in the evening. So we did. We did get some

578
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Speaker 13: good relationships in terms of the business development we're doing.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, looking but in general terms, we've been on

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Speaker 13: a lot of web trip overseas and I had tried

581
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Speaker 13: to you know, it's been to a country. I've never

582
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Speaker 13: been too much, China. I'll try and you know, tach

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Speaker 13: on a you know, like a week's are we holiday

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Speaker 13: to see the sites like the Great Walls that sort

585
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Speaker 13: of thing, something that's nothing that's aceptical. You know, you're

586
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Speaker 13: taking your own leave and you're spending your own Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And also I guess you are taking your own lead.

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Speaker 2: But if you're in the country that you've gone to,

589
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Speaker 2: you might learn something that you didn't just in the

590
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Speaker 2: meetings that you're having in the in the work part

591
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Speaker 2: of it, learn more about the country and the culture

592
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Speaker 2: that might help you do business there in future.

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Speaker 13: Oh absolutely, And that was That's very true in terms

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Speaker 13: of understanding the Singapore and culture. And we were trying

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Speaker 13: to build three G networks and understanding how they work.

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Speaker 13: And you know, we're the English and the Key. We

597
00:28:01,293 --> 00:28:04,893
Speaker 13: were operating in a very Anglicized way and that wasn't

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Speaker 13: how they do things, so we you know, to be

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Speaker 13: sensitive to how they work.

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Speaker 10: So that was really good.

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Speaker 2: Well what have you got some examples of those those differences?

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Speaker 9: Well they didn't.

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Speaker 13: I don't think they. I think they were really scared

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Speaker 13: of making mistakes and losing faith. So have you know

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Speaker 13: have you done that report yet?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 13: And they adn't, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: And it was quite funny because one of the one

611
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Speaker 13: of the Chinese guys and the Erics in Singapore, he

612
00:28:39,653 --> 00:28:41,933
Speaker 13: got all these guys together and he said, I don't

613
00:28:41,933 --> 00:28:43,693
Speaker 13: know what's wrong with you guys. I think I'm losing

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Speaker 13: my marble. And the English guy said, what is it?

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Speaker 5: The other one?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 6: Did?

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Speaker 9: You?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean do you find that you know, you

620
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Speaker 2: talk about Australians, New Zealanders and the British. Can that

621
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Speaker 2: drinking culture be an advantage or is it a disadvantage?

622
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Speaker 2: And that you know, you end up just spending a

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Speaker 2: whole the of time with Australians and you kind of

624
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Speaker 2: know how they work as opposed to some of the

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00:29:08,053 --> 00:29:10,653
Speaker 2: other you know, you know, people that you're trying to

626
00:29:10,693 --> 00:29:13,333
Speaker 2: do business with, they might not have that go to

627
00:29:13,373 --> 00:29:15,453
Speaker 2: a meeting, then meet for a drink and get absolutely

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Speaker 2: steamed and bond over that kind of culture.

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Speaker 13: We acted pretty professionally the whole time. And because you've

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Speaker 13: got a job to do, and the Swedes and the

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Speaker 13: Fins from Nokia, we all we all got together actually,

632
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Speaker 13: and it's really good to learn about how the Finns

633
00:29:34,533 --> 00:29:39,613
Speaker 13: do things and how the Swedes do things. So I

634
00:29:39,613 --> 00:29:44,013
Speaker 13: think it was a great opportunity. Just yeah, and Chinese

635
00:29:44,053 --> 00:29:47,413
Speaker 13: singer friends were boys with us, and the Filipinos, so

636
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Speaker 13: we all we all went together really well as a team,

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Speaker 13: I feel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And so clearly, you know, even though you had

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Speaker 3: ten days on the beach Tippanee, you got some value

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Speaker 3: out of that trip. Do you do you agree that

641
00:29:58,613 --> 00:30:00,853
Speaker 3: that face to face interaction is critical.

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00:30:03,253 --> 00:30:03,973
Speaker 5: It certainly is.

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Speaker 13: In terms of back then before Skype and everything else

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Speaker 13: or team you know, you could you would talk to

645
00:30:11,773 --> 00:30:14,813
Speaker 13: these people on the phone and then when you finally

646
00:30:14,853 --> 00:30:17,333
Speaker 13: got to meet them, you could you know, steer them

647
00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:19,053
Speaker 13: in the eye and get the cut of the gibs,

648
00:30:19,053 --> 00:30:24,253
Speaker 13: so to speak. And yeah, so all absolutely it was important,

649
00:30:24,493 --> 00:30:27,253
Speaker 13: especially especially with the customers.

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Speaker 3: Mhm, yeah, Ti Beny, thank you very much mate, And

651
00:30:32,733 --> 00:30:34,773
Speaker 3: it sounds like you really enjoyed Philippines. What part of

652
00:30:34,773 --> 00:30:43,293
Speaker 3: Philippines by the way, sabooboo sounds lovely? Ten days off

653
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Speaker 3: the lovely Yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 13: Pretty good. Just on the Aussi thing. I spent the

655
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Speaker 13: Air Force too. We go to Somalia wherever we went,

656
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:55,253
Speaker 13: and there might be the US, the Brits, the Canadians

657
00:30:55,533 --> 00:30:58,853
Speaker 13: probably with an hour the Aussies and Kiwi's had morphs

658
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Speaker 13: together with a cricket bat and a rugby ball and so,

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00:31:03,453 --> 00:31:05,333
Speaker 13: but so that a whole as the Kiwi's thing, that

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Speaker 13: anxact thing and the forces back in the day. I

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Speaker 13: don't know about now, but it was very tight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much. I guess with the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: And we're being a bit, you know, flipping around the

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Speaker 2: whole boozing thing. But you know, if you go over there,

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Speaker 2: you can totally derail what. You know, what you've done.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have a great meeting, you come across

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Speaker 2: pretty well, pretty professional, and then you go out for

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Speaker 2: a dinner afterwards and you just slam too many wines

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Speaker 2: and you start acting like a dickhead. You could unravel

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Speaker 2: absolutely everything you've done.

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Speaker 3: It's a tightrope walk, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call love to hear whether you still seend employees out

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Speaker 3: on work trips or if you're someone that does work trips,

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Speaker 3: is it still of value? Oh eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighties the number to call. Sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Your new home of Afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoon

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Speaker 4: Call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: News Talk said, be good afternoon, it is fourteen to

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Speaker 3: two and we're talking about word trips. Are they still

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Speaker 3: a value for your company?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And leisure or holidays where you add on an

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Speaker 2: extra bit on a business trip. Adding an extra to

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Speaker 2: businesses or employment travel is pure fraud as it evades

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Speaker 2: fringe benefit taxes. Rob Well, I was just looking into that.

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Speaker 2: And this is around, to be fair, this is around

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Speaker 2: government departments civil servants in New Zealand and the Autito

690
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Speaker 2: General's Advice and Controlling Sensitive Expenditure urged public agencies to

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Speaker 2: consider technologily enabled solutions as opposed to travel. That was

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00:32:46,613 --> 00:32:49,173
Speaker 2: the first thing you said, but also said as for

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Speaker 2: pleasure the Auto General advised staff members can go on

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Speaker 2: private travel before, during, or at the end of travel,

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Speaker 2: paid by their organization, provided there is no additional cost

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Speaker 2: to the organization and the private travel is only incidental

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Speaker 2: to the business purpose of the travel. Yeah, so I

698
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Speaker 2: think it's fine because you can take your holidays where

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Speaker 2: you want. So you just your organized to take the

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Speaker 2: holidays and you just tappen to be an I don't

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Speaker 2: know Morocco at the time, on a business strip. That's

702
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Speaker 2: where you have your holiday Henna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, just on the public sector agencies, and I

704
00:33:17,973 --> 00:33:20,133
Speaker 3: know that's been controversial and they've all been asked to

705
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Speaker 3: cut as much fat as they can, which is a

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Speaker 3: good thing. But on the cutting down on those work

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Speaker 3: trips for the public service sector, I think controversially. Controversially,

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Speaker 3: and this I'll get pushed back on this. I think

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Speaker 3: there was a mistake. I think it is important even

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Speaker 3: for public servants, sometimes particularly for public servants to go

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Speaker 3: on those face to face meetings, as we've seen with

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Speaker 3: the India trip, as we've seen with Winston Peters in

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Speaker 3: the US. Those are critical meetings and they've got a

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Speaker 3: big team behind them that goes along. So there's a

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Speaker 3: heck of a lot of conversations before those meetings states.

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Speaker 2: What about those humiliating sister city junkets that people go on.

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00:33:55,853 --> 00:33:59,773
Speaker 2: What about those? I mean some of them, some of them. Sure,

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Speaker 2: if they've got a direct outcome in terms of achieving

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Speaker 2: something back home, you know, an increase in productivity or

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Speaker 2: an efficiency or something that they just cannot get out

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Speaker 2: by watching a YouTube clip, then sure I get it.

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Speaker 2: This business is. We went on a TetraPak trip to

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Speaker 2: the hurricane, hooked up with a gaggle of door to

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Speaker 2: door vacuum sales cleaner salespersons for christ Church. That was

725
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Speaker 2: the best night of my life. Wow. A gaggle of

726
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Speaker 2: door to door vacuum cleaner salespersons from christ Church best

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Speaker 2: night of my life.

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Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah, I mean that sounds like a hell of

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Speaker 3: a night, A gaggle of them, so multiple guys. We

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Speaker 3: always prefer the work trip over the zoom meeting. Zoom

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Speaker 3: is a terrible way to increase culture within our company.

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Speaker 3: We always send our workers regularly between Auckland, Wellington and

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Speaker 3: christ Church, where our officers are based. It's incredibly important

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Speaker 3: they get there at least four times a year to

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Speaker 3: keep the culture alive and well within the company. Any

736
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Speaker 3: company that doesn't do that, I think are mugs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee that you can cover a lot up on

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Speaker 2: a Zoom call that you can't cover up if someone

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Speaker 2: flies in and has a look around the whole office

741
00:35:16,653 --> 00:35:21,693
Speaker 2: and checks everything out and can ask any question of anyone,

742
00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:24,333
Speaker 2: because you just have to work out what's in front

743
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Speaker 2: of the camera. As long as what's in in front

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00:35:26,773 --> 00:35:31,213
Speaker 2: of the camera is above board, then you know that's

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Speaker 2: very manageable. But once the boss flies in and has

746
00:35:34,253 --> 00:35:37,613
Speaker 2: a snuff around, Matt sounds your like your business trips

747
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,893
Speaker 2: are just pissedtrips. How dare you? John? How do you

748
00:35:39,933 --> 00:35:43,373
Speaker 2: suggest that text I go overseas to visit suppliers and

749
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Speaker 2: see the latest technology products and demos. You cannot do

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Speaker 2: that on zoom? Cheers John. Yeah. I mean that's another

751
00:35:48,853 --> 00:35:52,293
Speaker 2: example of it, isn't it. So if you need to

752
00:35:53,613 --> 00:35:56,133
Speaker 2: see the products and demos and get your hands on them,

753
00:35:56,173 --> 00:35:57,613
Speaker 2: of course you have to go. You can't just have

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Speaker 2: someone holding it up to the camera going do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: This looks good?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Cliff says, gentlemen, the reason for technology is to

757
00:36:05,453 --> 00:36:09,652
Speaker 3: remove all inefficiencies in the process. Humans are the weak

758
00:36:09,933 --> 00:36:15,013
Speaker 3: link in business. Henceforth, we will slowly be replaced with technology.

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Speaker 3: It is the way forward. Zoom all the way commercial.

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number call.

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Speaker 3: We're going to wrap this up very shortly, but love

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Speaker 3: to hear from you. If you are an employer, do

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Speaker 3: you still prioritize sending your employees on work trips?

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Speaker 2: This text ols is I would never send Matt on

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Speaker 2: a trip to do business from what he's disclosed about

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Speaker 2: his previous pass A wise man, Wise man, I'm a professional.

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Speaker 8: There you l nine to two Mattith Taylor Adams taking

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Speaker 8: your calls on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Matt and

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Speaker 8: Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety tick every box,

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Speaker 8: a seamless experience, awaits news talks.

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Speaker 3: Be good afternoon, and we are talking about work trips.

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Speaker 3: And we'll wrap this up shortly. But some great texts

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Speaker 3: have come through.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, great show as always, Thank you. I work

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Speaker 2: for a company They're head caught in Auckland with large

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Speaker 2: branches in Hamilton and Topor. I'm based in the Hamilton office,

778
00:37:13,693 --> 00:37:17,093
Speaker 2: but every Wednesday, I'm in one of Auckland or Topor

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Speaker 2: for a face to face caps up. They're essential for

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Speaker 2: maintaining team culture and connections. Thanks Peter. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, I think that's it. That's

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00:37:25,933 --> 00:37:28,853
Speaker 2: that's obvious. I mean I've been silly about the zoom calls.

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Speaker 2: Zoom calls, zoom meetings are life suck. They they're they're

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Speaker 2: a chore as as opposed to well, I mean, work

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00:37:38,053 --> 00:37:39,493
Speaker 2: is a chore. I don't mean a chore, but they're

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Speaker 2: they're a box tack. They don't you don't move things

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Speaker 2: forward in a zoom call.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't add much, does it? But what about this too?

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Speaker 2: You better just to send an email? You just better,

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00:37:49,213 --> 00:37:51,413
Speaker 2: You're better, I mean you need to see each other's face.

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00:37:51,493 --> 00:37:54,453
Speaker 2: Just have a phone call, send an email. There's no advantage.

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Speaker 3: Zoom suck.

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Speaker 2: Just someone sitting there steering at their own image. Pin

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Speaker 2: they're a picture of themselves, and check out how they look.

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Speaker 3: With their crazy little backgrounds that they put in there.

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Speaker 3: This is an interesting text, Ghetto guys, great discussion, and

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Speaker 3: ordinarily I would agree with the value of the work trip. However,

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Speaker 3: in my previous place of employment, we all went on

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Speaker 3: a conference to the US. Drinks were had and there

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Speaker 3: was some inter office relationships had that shouldn't have been had.

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00:38:24,813 --> 00:38:27,252
Speaker 3: When we got back to New Zealand, it all got

802
00:38:27,293 --> 00:38:30,613
Speaker 3: toxic and all came out and was terrible for the

803
00:38:30,653 --> 00:38:32,493
Speaker 3: culture in the workplace. I had to leave.

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00:38:32,813 --> 00:38:33,093
Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So that is a work trip that has gone absolutely astray.

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Speaker 2: That's too much booze. My previous role involved a lot

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00:38:39,813 --> 00:38:42,493
Speaker 2: of overnight trips away. I never felt guilty when living

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00:38:42,493 --> 00:38:44,853
Speaker 2: it up on the company. We used a lot of contractors.

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00:38:45,053 --> 00:38:47,693
Speaker 2: We'd work after ours and got paid overnight allowances on

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00:38:47,733 --> 00:38:50,613
Speaker 2: top of their salary salary. We never got paid any extra,

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Speaker 2: So why not maximized experience? That's true, It's what we're saying.

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Speaker 3: Before, Yeah, Matt.

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Speaker 2: One trip to OZ, I asked if I could go

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00:39:01,693 --> 00:39:05,613
Speaker 2: the night before. Okay, all set to go. No plane.

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Speaker 2: A new plane source from Australia. Fly to me Scott

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00:39:08,733 --> 00:39:11,133
Speaker 2: eighty k drive, looking forward to nice meal and hotel.

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00:39:11,213 --> 00:39:13,333
Speaker 2: I was too late, got a sandwich. Meetings focused on

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00:39:13,773 --> 00:39:17,173
Speaker 2: a fatality, went on a little longer than expected. Pushed

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Speaker 2: to get to Mascot. Our flight was delayed due to

820
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Speaker 2: air con failure. Four hours later, flew out, got back

821
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Speaker 2: to Auckland at four am. Ninety minute hacbrod, best laid plans.

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Speaker 2: No fun there at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like a terrible work trip that nothing

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Speaker 3: happened there. Yeah, very good. Thank you very much for

825
00:39:32,213 --> 00:39:34,453
Speaker 3: all your phone calls and texts on that one. Really

826
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Speaker 3: enjoyed that discussion. Right, coming up after two o'clock, let's

827
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Speaker 3: have a chat about the challenges that festivals are facing

828
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Speaker 3: at the moment. This is on the back of Juicy

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Speaker 3: Fest and time lest Summer. They have gone bankrupt and

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Speaker 3: it's a big question mark over whether those punters will

831
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Speaker 3: get their money back. But we'll have a chat to

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Speaker 3: Brent Equals as well about some changes potentially to the

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00:39:54,933 --> 00:39:56,772
Speaker 3: ticketing system and some wider issues as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Where does your money go when you

835
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Speaker 2: buy a ticket?

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

837
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Speaker 3: to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to matt and Tyler. Very very good afternoon

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 2: Then you sawn out of the rest act. Then that

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Speaker 2: is a part of the plaster.

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Speaker 4: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons with.

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Speaker 4: The Volvo XC nighty on News Talk SEV.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back into the show seven pass to

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Speaker 3: hope you're having a great afternoon and thanks for listening

847
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Speaker 3: to us. As always, great to have your company. Right,

848
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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about festival failures. So there has

849
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Speaker 3: been a call for a shakeup in ticketing rules. This

850
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Speaker 3: is on the back of the cancelation of Juicy Fest

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Speaker 3: and Timeless Summer, and Brent Eckles, who is a very

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00:40:44,733 --> 00:40:49,613
Speaker 3: well known concert promoter, sees the mess caused by those

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Speaker 3: cancelations prove current regulations miss the mark when it comes

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Speaker 3: to protecting punters.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so when you buy tickets through a ticket agency

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Speaker 2: like ticket Theory in this case, then the money isn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily held, whereas if you go through Ticketmaster a ticket tech,

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00:41:05,893 --> 00:41:08,853
Speaker 2: then the money is held and then pay it out

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00:41:08,973 --> 00:41:13,093
Speaker 2: at the end to their promoter. Yeah, so if the

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00:41:13,133 --> 00:41:15,212
Speaker 2: can if the concert doesn't go back, you can go

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Speaker 2: to a ticket master and get the ticket money back.

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00:41:18,013 --> 00:41:19,093
Speaker 2: So you've got someone to go to.

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00:41:19,213 --> 00:41:21,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's protection there for the puns. Is easy, he says,

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00:41:21,453 --> 00:41:23,093
Speaker 3: And that's what Brent equals always does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So the big the bigger promoters can

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00:41:25,693 --> 00:41:28,533
Speaker 2: do that. But I guess the situation of if you're

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Speaker 2: a little little promoter and you're starting off, then you

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00:41:31,453 --> 00:41:33,653
Speaker 2: need that money as it comes in to pay for everything,

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Speaker 2: don't you. So which is which is I guess a

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Speaker 2: terrifying right way to run the business. So you need

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Speaker 2: to be you know, booking things, renentering things, hiring things,

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00:41:42,853 --> 00:41:47,973
Speaker 2: paying deposits on venues, you know, paying advances to bands,

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Speaker 2: booking airfares, exect your yeah, before the concert's on. So

874
00:41:55,533 --> 00:41:58,413
Speaker 2: a big we will took us brand echos out how

875
00:41:58,453 --> 00:42:00,413
Speaker 2: this works? And also one hundred and eighty ten eighty

876
00:42:00,413 --> 00:42:02,013
Speaker 2: if you've tried to put on it on a show,

877
00:42:02,773 --> 00:42:05,292
Speaker 2: how that's worked out for you, because it's a chicken

878
00:42:05,333 --> 00:42:06,933
Speaker 2: and egg situation. If you don't have the money to

879
00:42:06,933 --> 00:42:09,253
Speaker 2: put on the show, you need the ticket. You need

880
00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:11,693
Speaker 2: the money coming in for the tickets to run everything.

881
00:42:12,413 --> 00:42:14,652
Speaker 2: So unless you can put up everything at advance that

882
00:42:14,693 --> 00:42:17,133
Speaker 2: you need to put on the show, then you know,

883
00:42:17,173 --> 00:42:17,653
Speaker 2: what do you can do?

884
00:42:17,933 --> 00:42:18,172
Speaker 5: Yeah?

885
00:42:18,293 --> 00:42:20,573
Speaker 3: And I'd really feel for people who are trying to

886
00:42:20,613 --> 00:42:23,573
Speaker 3: put on those smaller type festivals that as you say,

887
00:42:23,653 --> 00:42:25,453
Speaker 3: Brien Eckles, he's been in the game for a long time.

888
00:42:25,533 --> 00:42:28,172
Speaker 3: He's got the capital behind him. He's been very successful

889
00:42:28,493 --> 00:42:30,732
Speaker 3: and good on Brien Eagles, who will have a chat

890
00:42:30,773 --> 00:42:33,453
Speaker 3: to after two thirty. But for the smaller guys, they

891
00:42:33,533 --> 00:42:35,453
Speaker 3: just don't have the capital to do that, So that's

892
00:42:35,453 --> 00:42:37,652
Speaker 3: an added challenge for them to try and put on

893
00:42:37,693 --> 00:42:40,692
Speaker 3: any sort of festival or event, which we need. We

894
00:42:40,733 --> 00:42:43,773
Speaker 3: need more festivals and more events in New Zealand to

895
00:42:44,053 --> 00:42:47,893
Speaker 3: get people spending money to have, you know, some excitement

896
00:42:47,893 --> 00:42:50,453
Speaker 3: and height within the community. So love to hear from

897
00:42:50,493 --> 00:42:51,973
Speaker 3: you on this one at eight one hundred and eighty

898
00:42:52,013 --> 00:42:56,013
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Have you tried to start a festival event?

899
00:42:56,093 --> 00:42:58,893
Speaker 3: There's just too many challenges and hurdles put in your

900
00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:01,813
Speaker 3: way and would something like this law change make it

901
00:43:01,853 --> 00:43:02,453
Speaker 3: even harder.

902
00:43:02,693 --> 00:43:02,933
Speaker 4: Yeah.

903
00:43:03,013 --> 00:43:04,533
Speaker 2: I mean the other side of that though, is you

904
00:43:04,533 --> 00:43:09,133
Speaker 2: pay extra fees for places like Ticketmaster and been complaints

905
00:43:09,173 --> 00:43:13,613
Speaker 2: about complaints about booking fees and such. So when you

906
00:43:13,653 --> 00:43:16,813
Speaker 2: pay that though, you get some kind of security around it. Yeah,

907
00:43:16,853 --> 00:43:19,212
Speaker 2: because they're going to keep that money in a bank

908
00:43:19,253 --> 00:43:21,853
Speaker 2: for you. It's an interesting one because, as you say, Tyler,

909
00:43:21,893 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 2: we want to have these concerts and we want to

910
00:43:23,653 --> 00:43:26,573
Speaker 2: have the future promoters of the world coming up from

911
00:43:26,573 --> 00:43:28,692
Speaker 2: the bottom. Right, It can't just be all the big

912
00:43:28,733 --> 00:43:32,733
Speaker 2: dogs that are running it forever. You want that scummy

913
00:43:33,253 --> 00:43:39,133
Speaker 2: little metler from Gore who just risks it all and

914
00:43:39,493 --> 00:43:43,573
Speaker 2: rustles up to get some terrible Norwegian death metal band

915
00:43:43,973 --> 00:43:46,733
Speaker 2: over here to play and just makes a little bit

916
00:43:46,773 --> 00:43:49,212
Speaker 2: of money and then bulls his way up. We want

917
00:43:49,253 --> 00:43:49,893
Speaker 2: that as well, don't we.

918
00:43:49,973 --> 00:43:52,853
Speaker 3: You'll HiPE me up. I want to go to that concept, right,

919
00:43:52,853 --> 00:43:54,533
Speaker 3: Give us a buzz i WIT one hundred and eighty

920
00:43:54,693 --> 00:43:57,212
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you've tried

921
00:43:57,293 --> 00:43:59,893
Speaker 3: to set up or start a festival or event and

922
00:43:59,933 --> 00:44:03,133
Speaker 3: you've run into some challenges. We'd love to hear from you.

923
00:44:03,213 --> 00:44:04,973
Speaker 3: How hard is it just to run a festival in

924
00:44:05,013 --> 00:44:06,812
Speaker 3: New Zealand O W eight hundred and eighty ten eighties.

925
00:44:06,813 --> 00:44:09,693
Speaker 3: The number to call it is ten past Wow.

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Speaker 1: Your new home of Afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoon

927
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Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

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Speaker 1: Call eight News Talk.

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Speaker 6: Say'd be good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It's thirteen past two and we're talking about festival protections

931
00:44:28,053 --> 00:44:32,933
Speaker 3: for the punters. There has been calls for the Lord

932
00:44:32,933 --> 00:44:38,533
Speaker 3: to be changed to require festival organizers to hold that

933
00:44:38,613 --> 00:44:41,893
Speaker 3: ticket money within a ticket company, if you will, right,

934
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:43,973
Speaker 3: so they can't spend any of that ticket money on

935
00:44:44,013 --> 00:44:47,333
Speaker 3: the concert themselves in the event that it can't go ahead,

936
00:44:47,413 --> 00:44:48,853
Speaker 3: and the punters get all that cash back.

937
00:44:49,093 --> 00:44:53,013
Speaker 2: Yeah right, And you know, obviously the big companies it's

938
00:44:53,013 --> 00:44:56,973
Speaker 2: sweet as for them, but the little ones are gonna struggle. Meken,

939
00:44:57,013 --> 00:44:58,053
Speaker 2: Have I got your name right?

940
00:44:59,093 --> 00:44:59,973
Speaker 7: Kind of? Miken?

941
00:45:00,253 --> 00:45:03,573
Speaker 2: Miken, Miken, Hey, welcome to the show. Miken. What a

942
00:45:03,613 --> 00:45:06,413
Speaker 2: great name. Where does the name Miken come from.

943
00:45:06,733 --> 00:45:11,493
Speaker 7: It's the Danish name felt own Way. Nice to be

944
00:45:11,533 --> 00:45:12,453
Speaker 7: called Madge for short.

945
00:45:14,933 --> 00:45:20,093
Speaker 2: Wise, so you your thoughts on this, Miken.

946
00:45:20,053 --> 00:45:23,253
Speaker 7: Well, my thoughts are because of running Fashion Week with

947
00:45:23,253 --> 00:45:25,053
Speaker 7: my mum for twenty years and we were in a

948
00:45:25,093 --> 00:45:27,933
Speaker 7: big company when we started. So everyone's going to start somewhere.

949
00:45:28,413 --> 00:45:31,933
Speaker 7: If you hold the ticket money, if there's a big

950
00:45:31,973 --> 00:45:34,053
Speaker 7: problem and you have to pay the ticket money back,

951
00:45:34,093 --> 00:45:36,653
Speaker 7: you don't generally have it, You've spent it. Where do

952
00:45:36,653 --> 00:45:40,253
Speaker 7: you get it from? So I disagree completely. You have

953
00:45:40,333 --> 00:45:42,133
Speaker 7: to hold that money and you have to find other

954
00:45:42,213 --> 00:45:45,652
Speaker 7: ways to pay your deposits up front, like sponsorship and

955
00:45:45,773 --> 00:45:48,893
Speaker 7: government and local government there's got to be other ways

956
00:45:48,893 --> 00:45:51,493
Speaker 7: around it, because it's just not safe for the punters.

957
00:45:51,493 --> 00:45:54,373
Speaker 7: But also it's a really scary feeling for the event organizers.

958
00:45:54,653 --> 00:45:57,933
Speaker 2: So you're saying that you need to have basically a

959
00:45:57,973 --> 00:46:01,173
Speaker 2: pool of cash that's enough to get everything sorted to

960
00:46:01,693 --> 00:46:03,533
Speaker 2: the day of the event in advance.

961
00:46:04,493 --> 00:46:08,692
Speaker 7: It's not everything. It's part payment, isn't it, Because well,

962
00:46:08,693 --> 00:46:10,013
Speaker 7: maybe things have changed since.

963
00:46:09,853 --> 00:46:11,533
Speaker 5: COVID, But before COVID, you.

964
00:46:11,573 --> 00:46:14,853
Speaker 7: Could pay a deposit and get the gig off the ground.

965
00:46:15,653 --> 00:46:19,013
Speaker 7: But don't I just look, I've had lots of experiences

966
00:46:19,133 --> 00:46:23,133
Speaker 7: with working with like payment companies and ticket companies that

967
00:46:23,973 --> 00:46:27,212
Speaker 7: let you use the money and somewhere down the track

968
00:46:27,853 --> 00:46:30,652
Speaker 7: it can be the problem. And it's always to get

969
00:46:30,693 --> 00:46:32,493
Speaker 7: the people who bought the tickets end up paying.

970
00:46:32,773 --> 00:46:36,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

971
00:46:36,253 --> 00:46:37,973
Speaker 7: I've got some other examples. I don't want to talk

972
00:46:38,013 --> 00:46:40,853
Speaker 7: about it, but I just think I think it's as

973
00:46:40,893 --> 00:46:44,373
Speaker 7: an event organized it's quite scary to think that, well,

974
00:46:44,413 --> 00:46:47,493
Speaker 7: where do you find that money it's canceled because that's

975
00:46:47,573 --> 00:46:49,533
Speaker 7: not the kind of thing that insurance covers.

976
00:46:49,773 --> 00:46:52,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And so have you seen this a bit

977
00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:56,053
Speaker 2: where people are just sort of doing a you know,

978
00:46:56,133 --> 00:46:59,053
Speaker 2: we'll build it and they will come situation and they're

979
00:46:59,093 --> 00:47:00,692
Speaker 2: just hoping the show goes off and then they're going

980
00:47:00,733 --> 00:47:02,973
Speaker 2: to pay all their bills backwards. Have you seen that

981
00:47:03,013 --> 00:47:03,652
Speaker 2: happen quite a bit?

982
00:47:04,533 --> 00:47:07,573
Speaker 7: I don't. I would do sponsorship for events, and I

983
00:47:07,573 --> 00:47:10,173
Speaker 7: wouldn't want to work for an event that is using

984
00:47:10,173 --> 00:47:11,333
Speaker 7: that ticket money upfront.

985
00:47:12,093 --> 00:47:14,573
Speaker 10: Interesting, it's it's not a same place to be.

986
00:47:14,693 --> 00:47:17,732
Speaker 7: And also there's a lot of connections these days as

987
00:47:17,773 --> 00:47:21,693
Speaker 7: well as the ticketing with the payment agencies, and that

988
00:47:21,893 --> 00:47:25,013
Speaker 7: just adds a whole other layer of confusion and who's

989
00:47:25,053 --> 00:47:28,173
Speaker 7: responsible and who's doing refunds and what's going on. That

990
00:47:28,813 --> 00:47:30,813
Speaker 7: is not pleasant at all. And one of them is

991
00:47:31,173 --> 00:47:34,253
Speaker 7: lay By, which now doesn't exist. And they did a

992
00:47:34,253 --> 00:47:37,453
Speaker 7: lot of that with a lot of news events, and

993
00:47:37,533 --> 00:47:39,613
Speaker 7: they have put them all a lot of danger of

994
00:47:39,653 --> 00:47:42,813
Speaker 7: not succeeding. So, like I think there has to be

995
00:47:42,973 --> 00:47:45,093
Speaker 7: I mean, when you talk about Brent Eckles and he's

996
00:47:45,133 --> 00:47:46,933
Speaker 7: been doing it for ages and all that kind of stuff,

997
00:47:46,973 --> 00:47:49,732
Speaker 7: Well he's proven himself, but he probably say the same thing.

998
00:47:49,773 --> 00:47:53,213
Speaker 7: It's like, it's just there's no security in using that

999
00:47:53,253 --> 00:47:56,933
Speaker 7: money out front, even if one of your acts cancels,

1000
00:47:57,053 --> 00:47:59,893
Speaker 7: Like do you what do they do with that. What's

1001
00:47:59,973 --> 00:48:01,093
Speaker 7: great to have a full of money.

1002
00:48:01,173 --> 00:48:03,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great to chant you Mike. And so just

1003
00:48:03,733 --> 00:48:06,613
Speaker 3: rowing back to setting up events in general, do you

1004
00:48:06,773 --> 00:48:08,853
Speaker 3: think it's harder than it needs to be in New Zealand?

1005
00:48:08,853 --> 00:48:10,813
Speaker 3: Because when you mentioned there that you've got to find

1006
00:48:10,853 --> 00:48:13,973
Speaker 3: other ways to get that money through sponsorship or counsel

1007
00:48:14,093 --> 00:48:17,853
Speaker 3: or government. But what I hear anecdotally, you know, on

1008
00:48:17,893 --> 00:48:19,893
Speaker 3: the headlines and the media, is that that money is

1009
00:48:19,973 --> 00:48:22,693
Speaker 3: not forthcoming. It's incredibly hard and there's all these challenges

1010
00:48:22,693 --> 00:48:24,893
Speaker 3: to even try and set up an event or a festival.

1011
00:48:27,773 --> 00:48:29,133
Speaker 6: Have you found that it was awesome?

1012
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:31,213
Speaker 7: You've got it, did a lot of at least a

1013
00:48:31,253 --> 00:48:33,813
Speaker 7: couple of year work due diligence before you go into

1014
00:48:33,933 --> 00:48:36,133
Speaker 7: up your event. You've got to put a lot of

1015
00:48:36,173 --> 00:48:38,893
Speaker 7: effort into making a work. I mean, Fashion Week didn't

1016
00:48:38,893 --> 00:48:41,013
Speaker 7: happen overnight. My mum worked on it for like three

1017
00:48:41,053 --> 00:48:44,213
Speaker 7: or four years beforehand, going to government, going to all

1018
00:48:44,253 --> 00:48:46,853
Speaker 7: sorts of places to get steed funding. You only need

1019
00:48:46,893 --> 00:48:49,293
Speaker 7: one sponsor to get a gig off the ground. If

1020
00:48:49,333 --> 00:48:51,093
Speaker 7: they believe in you and that on that journey and

1021
00:48:51,133 --> 00:48:53,893
Speaker 7: you can work together, it's going to get the right

1022
00:48:53,893 --> 00:48:57,973
Speaker 7: people on place. It's just it's not Hey, look, everything's hard,

1023
00:48:58,533 --> 00:49:01,093
Speaker 7: the hard COVID and they're all more expensive, you know,

1024
00:49:01,253 --> 00:49:05,133
Speaker 7: but it's terrible if you've got if you've got it.

1025
00:49:05,173 --> 00:49:08,573
Speaker 2: Is it a thing with events where it's kind kind

1026
00:49:08,573 --> 00:49:09,253
Speaker 2: of you.

1027
00:49:09,173 --> 00:49:10,133
Speaker 6: Know, a boom or bust.

1028
00:49:10,373 --> 00:49:13,013
Speaker 2: So you'll have one that goes really really well and

1029
00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:15,413
Speaker 2: then the other one goes really really badly. And if

1030
00:49:15,413 --> 00:49:18,053
Speaker 2: you're running a business across the time, it evens out

1031
00:49:18,093 --> 00:49:19,133
Speaker 2: and you make a profit.

1032
00:49:20,973 --> 00:49:23,013
Speaker 7: I don't know hardly any people that make money out

1033
00:49:23,053 --> 00:49:28,493
Speaker 7: of events projects, to be honest, But you know, it

1034
00:49:28,493 --> 00:49:33,093
Speaker 7: depends where you're coming from. It, Like it is harder

1035
00:49:33,133 --> 00:49:35,692
Speaker 7: now because everything is more expensive and everyone is more

1036
00:49:35,693 --> 00:49:38,733
Speaker 7: nervous and they are more rules. But I think if

1037
00:49:38,733 --> 00:49:42,013
Speaker 7: you've got the right propositions that people want to go to,

1038
00:49:42,413 --> 00:49:45,053
Speaker 7: then it's boom. And then how you promote it. There's

1039
00:49:45,093 --> 00:49:47,533
Speaker 7: so many different facets, and I think if you can

1040
00:49:47,573 --> 00:49:50,733
Speaker 7: get all of them right and get get your tickets

1041
00:49:50,773 --> 00:49:55,413
Speaker 7: sold and get things done properly, and that's or event

1042
00:49:55,453 --> 00:49:57,692
Speaker 7: that we bad weather to have a bad year. But

1043
00:49:57,693 --> 00:50:00,013
Speaker 7: if you're solding your ticket, you're still going to get

1044
00:50:00,053 --> 00:50:01,773
Speaker 7: coming at the end, you know, if you're sign them

1045
00:50:01,773 --> 00:50:03,733
Speaker 7: on the door, well you probably won't because it's leaning.

1046
00:50:03,813 --> 00:50:06,493
Speaker 7: So it depends how you do it and how you

1047
00:50:06,493 --> 00:50:09,533
Speaker 7: deal with you know, and there's that many people who

1048
00:50:09,533 --> 00:50:12,733
Speaker 7: do events super well, but they're rocking it.

1049
00:50:13,373 --> 00:50:15,933
Speaker 3: Do you think there is there's truth in the statement, Mike,

1050
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:18,413
Speaker 3: and that for the likes of the Juicy Fest and

1051
00:50:18,453 --> 00:50:21,933
Speaker 3: the Timeless Summer ticket holders, they've been burnt by this,

1052
00:50:22,093 --> 00:50:24,293
Speaker 3: very unlikely they'll get their ticket money back. Do you

1053
00:50:24,293 --> 00:50:27,573
Speaker 3: think there's truth that that they will now not buy

1054
00:50:27,613 --> 00:50:30,373
Speaker 3: another concert ticket? They'll be There'll be a good percentage

1055
00:50:30,413 --> 00:50:32,692
Speaker 3: of those ticket holders that will be so burnt by

1056
00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:34,933
Speaker 3: this that that is their festival days done for a

1057
00:50:34,973 --> 00:50:35,493
Speaker 3: we will.

1058
00:50:36,133 --> 00:50:38,413
Speaker 7: I don't know why we are asking the question why

1059
00:50:38,453 --> 00:50:41,613
Speaker 7: are these ticket companies allowed to do this? So why

1060
00:50:41,613 --> 00:50:44,053
Speaker 7: aren't they getting the blame. I don't feel like there's

1061
00:50:44,093 --> 00:50:46,213
Speaker 7: too much owners going back on the events. And I

1062
00:50:46,253 --> 00:50:48,333
Speaker 7: can see these bigger ticket companies are more expensive. But

1063
00:50:48,373 --> 00:50:50,613
Speaker 7: that's why we went with them as well, because we

1064
00:50:50,693 --> 00:50:52,613
Speaker 7: wanted to advertise them. We wanted to be looked outter.

1065
00:50:52,653 --> 00:50:55,493
Speaker 7: We wanted the assurance that the money, if anything goes wrong,

1066
00:50:55,733 --> 00:50:58,093
Speaker 7: they deal with it, you know. So I think we

1067
00:50:58,213 --> 00:51:00,493
Speaker 7: need to be looking more at the ticket companies and going, well,

1068
00:51:00,493 --> 00:51:03,093
Speaker 7: why are they allowed to do that? Yeah, you know,

1069
00:51:03,213 --> 00:51:06,933
Speaker 7: like there's and not put everything back onto events.

1070
00:51:08,573 --> 00:51:12,773
Speaker 3: Oh might have just you know yeah, yeah.

1071
00:51:12,813 --> 00:51:15,973
Speaker 7: I mean it's like I feel sorry for these people,

1072
00:51:15,973 --> 00:51:18,613
Speaker 7: but it's the ticket companies that are responsible the events

1073
00:51:18,613 --> 00:51:20,813
Speaker 7: are trying to their best thing and thought, Okay, that's

1074
00:51:20,813 --> 00:51:23,413
Speaker 7: the best deal. We'll go with that, not thinking that

1075
00:51:23,453 --> 00:51:26,053
Speaker 7: it's going to fall over. Yes, they will be affected,

1076
00:51:26,053 --> 00:51:28,133
Speaker 7: they'll be pressed. I don't want to go and yeah,

1077
00:51:28,173 --> 00:51:28,933
Speaker 7: it's a scene.

1078
00:51:28,973 --> 00:51:29,333
Speaker 5: I get it.

1079
00:51:29,413 --> 00:51:32,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is there are the fees? Are the fees

1080
00:51:32,653 --> 00:51:35,573
Speaker 2: for this, for this you know, safety net of the

1081
00:51:35,613 --> 00:51:38,813
Speaker 2: money being stored somewhere not already being spent, Are the

1082
00:51:39,293 --> 00:51:42,373
Speaker 2: fees and the booking fhees considerably more for the lights

1083
00:51:42,373 --> 00:51:43,053
Speaker 2: of ticketmaster?

1084
00:51:44,253 --> 00:51:47,013
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but what you get is more is you've

1085
00:51:47,013 --> 00:51:48,573
Speaker 7: got to do that's for the mean, you've got to

1086
00:51:50,173 --> 00:51:52,453
Speaker 7: you know, just you know, I just do not read

1087
00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:55,613
Speaker 7: that ticket money should be spent before the gig has happened.

1088
00:51:55,653 --> 00:51:56,933
Speaker 7: It's just as rubbish.

1089
00:51:57,213 --> 00:51:59,973
Speaker 2: Here's a question. Here's a question. It's bad men. Yeah,

1090
00:52:00,173 --> 00:52:02,293
Speaker 2: here's a question sort of outside of the topic, but

1091
00:52:02,533 --> 00:52:05,733
Speaker 2: is putting on something like fashion week or a concert

1092
00:52:05,813 --> 00:52:09,973
Speaker 2: or events, the most nerve making business in the entire world,

1093
00:52:10,053 --> 00:52:12,813
Speaker 2: with the most variables coming down on you. That can

1094
00:52:13,373 --> 00:52:14,493
Speaker 2: upset what's going.

1095
00:52:14,253 --> 00:52:18,693
Speaker 7: On to put it to be. I mean I've found

1096
00:52:18,693 --> 00:52:25,172
Speaker 7: it up in twenty years like Groundhog Year. Yeah, it's

1097
00:52:25,173 --> 00:52:27,013
Speaker 7: not about the industry. And I was like, do you

1098
00:52:27,053 --> 00:52:34,333
Speaker 7: think that pass coming from and how you want to

1099
00:52:34,373 --> 00:52:37,053
Speaker 7: do it and why you do it? And I'm grateful

1100
00:52:37,093 --> 00:52:38,773
Speaker 7: for the journey that I went on of learning and

1101
00:52:38,813 --> 00:52:41,653
Speaker 7: being proud of it, but ever going to that my

1102
00:52:41,733 --> 00:52:46,413
Speaker 7: own event, I want to I want to do aside

1103
00:52:46,453 --> 00:52:49,213
Speaker 7: and be helpful with my skills because it's really stressful.

1104
00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:51,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's super stressful. It's horrible.

1105
00:52:51,573 --> 00:52:51,772
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1106
00:52:52,973 --> 00:52:54,413
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call and thank

1107
00:52:54,413 --> 00:52:56,573
Speaker 2: you for your insights. What a great call, I mean,

1108
00:52:56,653 --> 00:52:59,573
Speaker 2: especially doing an outside concert in New Zealand. Oh yeah,

1109
00:52:59,773 --> 00:53:03,133
Speaker 2: like not you know something that's you know, open to

1110
00:53:03,333 --> 00:53:07,373
Speaker 2: our weather. Yeah, terrifying, terrifying, water.

1111
00:53:08,573 --> 00:53:11,733
Speaker 3: Stress involved. Yeah. Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1112
00:53:11,813 --> 00:53:14,573
Speaker 3: the number to court. If you are part of setting

1113
00:53:14,613 --> 00:53:16,533
Speaker 3: up a festival or event. We'd love to hear from

1114
00:53:16,573 --> 00:53:18,493
Speaker 3: you about the hurdles that you face and how you

1115
00:53:18,533 --> 00:53:22,013
Speaker 3: feel about this idea of a law change to ensure

1116
00:53:22,053 --> 00:53:24,053
Speaker 3: that the ticket money is held by the ticket company

1117
00:53:24,733 --> 00:53:26,493
Speaker 3: and you have to use other funds to try and

1118
00:53:26,533 --> 00:53:28,652
Speaker 3: pay your artists and to set up logistics and all

1119
00:53:28,693 --> 00:53:30,413
Speaker 3: the rest of it. Would that make sense or would

1120
00:53:30,413 --> 00:53:31,253
Speaker 3: that make things harder?

1121
00:53:31,613 --> 00:53:35,093
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I like what she said to just be

1122
00:53:35,133 --> 00:53:37,853
Speaker 2: spending the money as it comes in as just rude.

1123
00:53:37,893 --> 00:53:38,853
Speaker 2: That's just rude.

1124
00:53:38,933 --> 00:53:39,973
Speaker 3: Twenty two past two.

1125
00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:44,453
Speaker 2: So, Tyler, I hear you thinking about a new Volvo suv.

1126
00:53:44,733 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it made, and a lot of you

1127
00:53:46,413 --> 00:53:49,493
Speaker 3: will say it's a bold choice and a crowded suv market.

1128
00:53:49,533 --> 00:53:50,893
Speaker 3: But bear with me.

1129
00:53:51,253 --> 00:53:54,093
Speaker 2: Have you taken the Volvo XC ninety for a test drive? Yeah?

1130
00:53:54,133 --> 00:53:56,013
Speaker 3: I did, and I can honestly say, why wouldn't you

1131
00:53:56,133 --> 00:53:57,893
Speaker 3: choose the Volvo XC ninety.

1132
00:53:58,053 --> 00:54:00,893
Speaker 2: I agree. She's a spacious beast with seating for up

1133
00:54:00,893 --> 00:54:03,652
Speaker 2: to seven people, truckloads of room for luggage as well.

1134
00:54:03,773 --> 00:54:06,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course, being Volvo, the XC ninety is

1135
00:54:06,093 --> 00:54:09,652
Speaker 3: packed with Swedish know how and quality comes fully loaded

1136
00:54:09,693 --> 00:54:10,453
Speaker 3: with the latest tech.

1137
00:54:10,853 --> 00:54:13,453
Speaker 2: And by that I'm assuming you mean Google Maps, Google

1138
00:54:13,493 --> 00:54:14,813
Speaker 2: Assistant and Google Play.

1139
00:54:15,013 --> 00:54:17,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it. The XC ninety has even got

1140
00:54:17,453 --> 00:54:21,253
Speaker 3: a panoramic roof, advanced air purifier and a head up

1141
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:23,373
Speaker 3: display that changes the suitlight conditions.

1142
00:54:23,493 --> 00:54:25,813
Speaker 2: Yet what we're saying, basically, the Volvo XC ninety is

1143
00:54:25,933 --> 00:54:26,693
Speaker 2: pretty smooth.

1144
00:54:26,973 --> 00:54:29,813
Speaker 3: You got it, especially with the air suspension system that

1145
00:54:29,893 --> 00:54:32,773
Speaker 3: constantly adjusts the ride height and chock Ablilbers.

1146
00:54:32,973 --> 00:54:35,252
Speaker 2: I reckon you need to visit Volvo cars and see

1147
00:54:35,253 --> 00:54:39,093
Speaker 2: why the Volvo XC ninety is the SUV for right now.

1148
00:54:43,213 --> 00:54:47,573
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight on

1149
00:54:47,773 --> 00:54:48,773
Speaker 1: used Talk ZB.

1150
00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:52,253
Speaker 3: Turn your Mike on Tyler twenty five past two, and

1151
00:54:52,293 --> 00:54:55,253
Speaker 3: we're talking about setting up festivals in New Zealand and

1152
00:54:55,293 --> 00:54:58,573
Speaker 3: also the call for a law change to ensure that

1153
00:54:58,933 --> 00:55:01,652
Speaker 3: ticket money is held by the ticketing company and not

1154
00:55:01,693 --> 00:55:04,653
Speaker 3: a cent of that is spent on the event itself

1155
00:55:05,773 --> 00:55:07,613
Speaker 3: in case if the event doesn't go ahead, then you

1156
00:55:07,653 --> 00:55:08,293
Speaker 3: get your money back.

1157
00:55:08,333 --> 00:55:12,653
Speaker 2: Michelle says, Mike is right. Miken was her name? Actually Meghan?

1158
00:55:12,813 --> 00:55:16,053
Speaker 2: Were we saying a name wrong in the hotel? Mike

1159
00:55:16,213 --> 00:55:19,213
Speaker 2: is right? Or Meghan or Miken? It is the ticket

1160
00:55:19,253 --> 00:55:22,933
Speaker 2: company's responsibility to the money. It shouldn't be released until

1161
00:55:22,933 --> 00:55:27,333
Speaker 2: the event has happened. That's from Michelle. Yeah, let's go

1162
00:55:27,413 --> 00:55:30,853
Speaker 2: to Paul. You want to talk about small promoters.

1163
00:55:32,013 --> 00:55:33,212
Speaker 10: Yeah, mate, yeah, yeah.

1164
00:55:34,773 --> 00:55:37,933
Speaker 15: I'm part of a certain blues club in the North

1165
00:55:37,973 --> 00:55:43,013
Speaker 15: Island and we have for some years now put on

1166
00:55:43,093 --> 00:55:50,013
Speaker 15: a blues festival in Rotaua on an annual basis. COVID

1167
00:55:50,053 --> 00:55:52,773
Speaker 15: obviously knocked a whole lot of things over, as we're

1168
00:55:52,813 --> 00:55:57,853
Speaker 15: all well aware, but there was actually a government fund

1169
00:55:58,413 --> 00:56:02,813
Speaker 15: called the Thermal Explorer Fund which they set up to

1170
00:56:03,213 --> 00:56:06,853
Speaker 15: sort of kickstart festivals and events and things like that.

1171
00:56:08,573 --> 00:56:10,773
Speaker 15: And where's the Bay of Plenty Blues Club got. I

1172
00:56:10,813 --> 00:56:13,453
Speaker 15: got in on the ground floor for that. There were

1173
00:56:13,533 --> 00:56:16,493
Speaker 15: obviously a lot of people trying to apply. We were

1174
00:56:16,533 --> 00:56:23,413
Speaker 15: successful and it was certainly enough funding for us to

1175
00:56:23,453 --> 00:56:27,493
Speaker 15: set things up and have everything in place, but it

1176
00:56:27,573 --> 00:56:32,053
Speaker 15: was a sliding scale sort of situation where first year

1177
00:56:32,053 --> 00:56:34,213
Speaker 15: you got x amount, second year that went down, and

1178
00:56:34,253 --> 00:56:36,493
Speaker 15: a third year that went down. Because the idea, of

1179
00:56:36,533 --> 00:56:38,812
Speaker 15: course is that your event should be able to stand

1180
00:56:38,853 --> 00:56:42,013
Speaker 15: on its own two feet. And for the first couple

1181
00:56:42,053 --> 00:56:44,413
Speaker 15: of years or everything was great, and then we ended

1182
00:56:44,493 --> 00:56:47,973
Speaker 15: up postponing last year's festival simply because the ticket sales

1183
00:56:48,013 --> 00:56:52,773
Speaker 15: went there. But what we do is we put the

1184
00:56:52,813 --> 00:56:55,453
Speaker 15: money aside so that you don't end up in this

1185
00:56:55,613 --> 00:56:59,493
Speaker 15: situation where the people who spent money on the tickets

1186
00:56:59,493 --> 00:57:03,933
Speaker 15: are the losers. Yeah, we did that on purpose so

1187
00:57:03,973 --> 00:57:06,933
Speaker 15: that we could say, sorry, we're postponing the event, but

1188
00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:10,853
Speaker 15: here's your money back. And because the last thing you

1189
00:57:10,853 --> 00:57:13,373
Speaker 15: want to do is live a foul taste in anyone's mouth.

1190
00:57:13,653 --> 00:57:16,133
Speaker 2: So so, Paul, you're putting your putting You're not using

1191
00:57:16,133 --> 00:57:18,453
Speaker 2: it through a ticketing company putting aside, you're actually putting

1192
00:57:18,493 --> 00:57:19,613
Speaker 2: it aside yourself.

1193
00:57:20,613 --> 00:57:23,013
Speaker 15: No, we were using a ticketing company and they would

1194
00:57:23,013 --> 00:57:26,093
Speaker 15: pay us out on a regular basis, and we put

1195
00:57:26,093 --> 00:57:31,693
Speaker 15: the money aside ourselves simply for that reason. No, we don't.

1196
00:57:31,973 --> 00:57:33,853
Speaker 15: We're not going to We're not going to spend ticket

1197
00:57:34,493 --> 00:57:37,693
Speaker 15: you know, people's ticket money on setting up the event.

1198
00:57:37,773 --> 00:57:41,213
Speaker 15: And you know, for last year's one, which we had

1199
00:57:41,253 --> 00:57:45,573
Speaker 15: to postpone, we had already paid paid a deposit for

1200
00:57:45,693 --> 00:57:48,733
Speaker 15: our headline acts and we just had to wear that.

1201
00:57:50,133 --> 00:57:53,653
Speaker 15: But better than using the punter's money, because I will

1202
00:57:53,693 --> 00:57:55,733
Speaker 15: never come back if you do that. If you do that,

1203
00:57:55,773 --> 00:57:56,453
Speaker 15: you don't are you?

1204
00:57:57,133 --> 00:57:59,253
Speaker 2: Is this the New Zealand Blues and Barbecue Festival?

1205
00:57:59,293 --> 00:58:04,453
Speaker 11: Is that that's the one, the one, yeah yeah.

1206
00:58:04,173 --> 00:58:05,093
Speaker 15: And what are you the one?

1207
00:58:05,093 --> 00:58:05,973
Speaker 2: Are you back this year?

1208
00:58:06,933 --> 00:58:07,653
Speaker 5: Well? Are yeah?

1209
00:58:07,733 --> 00:58:12,013
Speaker 15: Yeah, We're we're back in the throes of it and

1210
00:58:12,093 --> 00:58:16,133
Speaker 15: our major launch was social media and whatnot is coming

1211
00:58:16,213 --> 00:58:20,413
Speaker 15: up or in the next week, I think, and we'll

1212
00:58:20,453 --> 00:58:22,573
Speaker 15: do the same as what we did last year. Any

1213
00:58:22,573 --> 00:58:26,573
Speaker 15: ticket money will be held in trust and God. But

1214
00:58:26,693 --> 00:58:28,573
Speaker 15: we can't put it on again this year, I hope not.

1215
00:58:30,533 --> 00:58:34,653
Speaker 2: You do you have to make increased profits from this year?

1216
00:58:34,733 --> 00:58:37,573
Speaker 2: Is to pay for having to cancel last year's.

1217
00:58:38,853 --> 00:58:42,133
Speaker 15: No, no, it's well you could say that year. I mean,

1218
00:58:42,493 --> 00:58:45,093
Speaker 15: it wasn't like it broke us, all right, because we

1219
00:58:46,013 --> 00:58:49,693
Speaker 15: manage this very very carefully. But it would be nice

1220
00:58:49,733 --> 00:58:52,613
Speaker 15: to get some of that money back if we could.

1221
00:58:53,893 --> 00:58:56,493
Speaker 15: But at the end of the day, our main motivation

1222
00:58:56,733 --> 00:58:59,893
Speaker 15: is because we're all a bunch of music lovers, rightly

1223
00:58:59,973 --> 00:59:03,013
Speaker 15: or wrongly, and we just think that good music should

1224
00:59:03,013 --> 00:59:05,173
Speaker 15: be available to the public, you know, So that's really

1225
00:59:06,053 --> 00:59:07,253
Speaker 15: that's really the whole reason we do.

1226
00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:09,093
Speaker 2: So this is this is a kind of a different

1227
00:59:09,133 --> 00:59:11,373
Speaker 2: kind of situation here, Paul. You're not looking to get

1228
00:59:11,453 --> 00:59:14,373
Speaker 2: rich off this. You just think it's something that should exist,

1229
00:59:14,533 --> 00:59:16,493
Speaker 2: and that's why you're putting all that work into it.

1230
00:59:17,613 --> 00:59:19,413
Speaker 15: Yeah, we know we're not going to get rich off it,

1231
00:59:19,493 --> 00:59:25,213
Speaker 15: but but what we what we what? What the aim

1232
00:59:25,573 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 15: was right from the from the word go was if

1233
00:59:28,293 --> 00:59:31,373
Speaker 15: we can use any profits from this year's festival to

1234
00:59:31,453 --> 00:59:34,693
Speaker 15: carry on to next year's festival. We just keep reinvesting

1235
00:59:34,693 --> 00:59:38,013
Speaker 15: it and rolling it over. You see, none of none

1236
00:59:38,053 --> 00:59:39,853
Speaker 15: of us make any money out of it. It's all

1237
00:59:39,893 --> 00:59:42,773
Speaker 15: done for love. After a musician, what that is, they

1238
00:59:42,773 --> 00:59:47,333
Speaker 15: will tell you. Yeah, yeah, it is for the love

1239
00:59:47,373 --> 00:59:49,653
Speaker 15: of it, and it takes up about ten months of

1240
00:59:49,653 --> 00:59:51,013
Speaker 15: our lives every year.

1241
00:59:51,213 --> 00:59:52,533
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah.

1242
00:59:52,573 --> 00:59:54,373
Speaker 15: But things you do, things you do.

1243
00:59:54,733 --> 00:59:56,533
Speaker 2: So you were in there because you know you've got

1244
00:59:56,573 --> 00:59:58,533
Speaker 2: the big marquees for the bands to play over. So

1245
00:59:58,653 --> 01:00:01,093
Speaker 2: is it is it? Are you right in there, you know,

1246
01:00:01,213 --> 01:00:04,333
Speaker 2: putting things up and setting things up and putting the

1247
01:00:04,373 --> 01:00:05,533
Speaker 2: stages together and such.

1248
01:00:06,733 --> 01:00:08,893
Speaker 15: Anything we do, anything that needs to be done to

1249
01:00:08,933 --> 01:00:10,213
Speaker 15: get the show on, we do.

1250
01:00:10,813 --> 01:00:10,893
Speaker 16: So.

1251
01:00:11,453 --> 01:00:13,773
Speaker 15: Yeah, we are running around doing all those sort of

1252
01:00:14,213 --> 01:00:17,853
Speaker 15: all those sort of tasks. Obviously the professionals do come

1253
01:00:17,893 --> 01:00:20,213
Speaker 15: in and put the stage up for scaffolding and all

1254
01:00:20,213 --> 01:00:22,893
Speaker 15: of that. But for example, the first year when you

1255
01:00:23,013 --> 01:00:26,373
Speaker 15: run it under the New Zealand Barbecue and Blues festival model.

1256
01:00:27,253 --> 01:00:30,013
Speaker 15: We realized that the stage was nothing to do with

1257
01:00:30,053 --> 01:00:33,173
Speaker 15: the supplies, but for what we're wanting to do with

1258
01:00:33,253 --> 01:00:36,573
Speaker 15: band changes and whatnot, where we're to modify the stage.

1259
01:00:36,613 --> 01:00:40,333
Speaker 15: So I think of the second to last hour running up,

1260
01:00:40,693 --> 01:00:42,653
Speaker 15: we're under the hammer and nails and all sorts of

1261
01:00:42,693 --> 01:00:47,973
Speaker 15: things like that. Yeah, and then the whole thing goes

1262
01:00:48,013 --> 01:00:49,893
Speaker 15: off the weekends crazy. You get to the end of

1263
01:00:49,933 --> 01:00:52,773
Speaker 15: it and you go, wow, that was awesome. Every year

1264
01:00:52,853 --> 01:00:54,693
Speaker 15: I say this was the last year I'm doing it.

1265
01:00:55,053 --> 01:00:56,973
Speaker 15: Then it happens and you go, well, that was awesome.

1266
01:00:56,973 --> 01:00:58,933
Speaker 15: Next year we should and before you know it, you're

1267
01:00:58,973 --> 01:00:59,533
Speaker 15: into it again.

1268
01:01:01,173 --> 01:01:03,733
Speaker 2: Paul, when's the big Whin's the big announcement and launch

1269
01:01:03,813 --> 01:01:04,693
Speaker 2: for this year's.

1270
01:01:05,573 --> 01:01:08,173
Speaker 15: Next end of the next week and we're looking at

1271
01:01:08,853 --> 01:01:09,973
Speaker 15: end of November and.

1272
01:01:09,933 --> 01:01:11,893
Speaker 2: Were can people find you for that?

1273
01:01:13,533 --> 01:01:17,613
Speaker 15: BP Blues dot co, dot m Z and also on

1274
01:01:17,653 --> 01:01:19,573
Speaker 15: our Facebook and all that sort of thing, all the

1275
01:01:19,653 --> 01:01:20,293
Speaker 15: usual places.

1276
01:01:20,573 --> 01:01:22,533
Speaker 2: Oh brilliant. Thanks so much for calling, Paul, and good

1277
01:01:22,573 --> 01:01:23,013
Speaker 2: luck with that.

1278
01:01:23,053 --> 01:01:26,093
Speaker 15: Good on you, Thank you very much. But I support

1279
01:01:26,093 --> 01:01:29,453
Speaker 15: the law change. I think money ticket money should be

1280
01:01:29,493 --> 01:01:31,813
Speaker 15: held in trust. Yeah, that's really the point.

1281
01:01:31,893 --> 01:01:32,613
Speaker 6: Yeh, good on.

1282
01:01:32,533 --> 01:01:34,613
Speaker 3: Your Paul all the best mate, and hopefully we'll catch

1283
01:01:34,693 --> 01:01:37,253
Speaker 3: up a little bit closer to that event. He's the

1284
01:01:37,253 --> 01:01:38,813
Speaker 3: best of us, isn't it. I mean, thank god for

1285
01:01:38,853 --> 01:01:42,053
Speaker 3: people like Paul digging into sitting up those sort of festivals.

1286
01:01:42,093 --> 01:01:44,533
Speaker 3: And there's both Paul and Mike and have said the

1287
01:01:44,653 --> 01:01:47,373
Speaker 3: stress levels when trying to set that up and things

1288
01:01:47,373 --> 01:01:49,413
Speaker 3: outside of your control. Take my head off to you.

1289
01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:52,533
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1290
01:01:52,693 --> 01:01:55,533
Speaker 3: number to call. We've got headlines with railing coming up

1291
01:01:55,933 --> 01:01:57,813
Speaker 3: and very shortly we're going to catch up with Brent

1292
01:01:57,853 --> 01:02:01,373
Speaker 3: ecles Deaver chat about this. It is twenty seven to three.

1293
01:02:04,013 --> 01:02:07,773
Speaker 12: You talk the headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's no

1294
01:02:07,893 --> 01:02:10,973
Speaker 12: trouble with a blue bubble proposals for a big shake

1295
01:02:11,053 --> 01:02:14,693
Speaker 12: up to electorates and voting boundaries before the next election

1296
01:02:15,133 --> 01:02:19,373
Speaker 12: to reflect population changes from the last census. The Prime

1297
01:02:19,413 --> 01:02:23,413
Speaker 12: Minister says it's unacceptable. An eleven year old was mistaken

1298
01:02:23,453 --> 01:02:26,693
Speaker 12: by police for a distressed woman and medicated at a

1299
01:02:26,733 --> 01:02:32,173
Speaker 12: mental health facility. It's understood the child was nonverbal. Forrest

1300
01:02:32,253 --> 01:02:35,733
Speaker 12: and Bird says it's crucial that replaced resource Management Act

1301
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Speaker 12: gets it right first time and must protect, restore, and

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray lean Well joining us on

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Speaker 3: the line equals entertainment co founder Brent equals to discuss

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Speaker 3: the potential law change when it comes to festivals and

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Speaker 3: the money that they hold for tickets. Brent, very good

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Speaker 3: afternoon to you.

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Speaker 5: Good, How are you going?

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Speaker 2: Very good? Thanks Brent. So just to get to the

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01:03:44,453 --> 01:03:47,413
Speaker 2: just to just put this in a solid question to start. So,

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01:03:47,453 --> 01:03:50,213
Speaker 2: when a concert festival pro uses a company like ticket Master,

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Speaker 2: what happens with the money as it comes in from

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Speaker 2: the punters buying the tickets?

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01:03:54,213 --> 01:03:58,693
Speaker 5: Oh, you buy a ticket. The money is passes to

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01:03:59,413 --> 01:04:03,013
Speaker 5: the ticket and the ticket that holds that money until

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01:04:03,013 --> 01:04:06,173
Speaker 5: the show has played and then it releases that money

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01:04:06,173 --> 01:04:08,253
Speaker 5: to the promoter or the venue will both.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm assuming when it's a company, I think

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Speaker 2: we're talking about one called ticket Ferry. There's probably some

1331
01:04:14,133 --> 01:04:17,093
Speaker 2: others they have a different model whereas the money comes in,

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01:04:17,173 --> 01:04:19,333
Speaker 2: it just goes to the promoter.

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Speaker 5: Well, they take their piece out of it, they're booking

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Speaker 5: fees probably and pass it on to the promoter. Yes,

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01:04:24,813 --> 01:04:29,733
Speaker 5: that's correct, and so so sorry you continue, Well, your

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01:04:29,773 --> 01:04:32,613
Speaker 5: hope that the promoter was cashed up enough to be

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01:04:32,653 --> 01:04:36,053
Speaker 5: able to repay the money. If it is, the show

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Speaker 5: is canceled.

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Speaker 2: And so obviously you run a solid establishment equals entertainment.

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Speaker 2: You've been going for a very long time, and you

1341
01:04:45,733 --> 01:04:49,093
Speaker 2: would propose legislation that how would that affect if there

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01:04:49,133 --> 01:04:51,293
Speaker 2: was legislation that came in that basically said you have

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01:04:51,373 --> 01:04:53,733
Speaker 2: to do it that way? Would it have to be

1344
01:04:54,293 --> 01:04:54,733
Speaker 2: sorry you go.

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Speaker 5: The only effect would be that the promoter that the

1346
01:04:58,173 --> 01:05:01,773
Speaker 5: punter is protected and if things go wrong, and they

1347
01:05:01,773 --> 01:05:03,373
Speaker 5: do go wrong, they go wrong for me as well.

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Speaker 5: But you know that the money, the ticket money goes

1349
01:05:07,133 --> 01:05:10,493
Speaker 5: straight back to the ticket buyer as the very first

1350
01:05:10,493 --> 01:05:12,853
Speaker 5: thing you do if a show is canceled, and then

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01:05:12,893 --> 01:05:15,533
Speaker 5: deal with the consequences yourself, because that's your business you're running.

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01:05:16,773 --> 01:05:21,533
Speaker 5: So that's no change. The punter wouldn't notice any different

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01:05:21,613 --> 01:05:23,493
Speaker 5: but to be a structural change in the background.

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Speaker 2: So but they have to always go with one of

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01:05:25,933 --> 01:05:29,693
Speaker 2: these established companies or could they just prove that they're

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Speaker 2: keeping the money themselves and appall somewhere else and a

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01:05:32,213 --> 01:05:33,933
Speaker 2: bank account somewhere else and not touching it.

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Speaker 5: Well you say a bank account, I mean you know

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Speaker 5: it should already be held in trust, so no one

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01:05:39,973 --> 01:05:42,213
Speaker 5: can touch it, even they can't touch it until the

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Speaker 5: show is run, but goes in the trust or something similar.

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Speaker 5: But there are many companies, ticketing companies in New Zealand

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Speaker 5: that do keep the money and don't pass it on

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Speaker 5: to the promoter, lots of them.

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Speaker 3: Is it unique to us print or how does it

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Speaker 3: work over in Australia. Obviously you've done festivals and events

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Speaker 3: and gigs over there. Have they got title laws?

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Speaker 5: I think they have a voluntary code of conduct that

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01:06:08,733 --> 01:06:11,093
Speaker 5: a lot of the major players, not the major promoters

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Speaker 5: and ticketers they are here too. We don't quite have

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01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:17,813
Speaker 5: that here yet. You know, our businesses, well, it's small

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Speaker 5: in comparison and there are less players, so we really

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01:06:21,573 --> 01:06:26,453
Speaker 5: need help from the government to legislate and to protect

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Speaker 5: the punters and help the business. The thing is, there's

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Speaker 5: so much money going through these ticketers now that it

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01:06:32,653 --> 01:06:35,893
Speaker 5: really is a potential problem that's just waiting, waiting in

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Speaker 5: the wings to happen.

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Speaker 2: Again, is it a checking an egg thing?

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01:06:38,973 --> 01:06:39,213
Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 2: Whereas if you're a concert and you're trying to put

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01:06:41,853 --> 01:06:44,053
Speaker 2: it on, don't you need the money that's coming in

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Speaker 2: from the tickets to pay the deposits and be it

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01:06:47,293 --> 01:06:47,893
Speaker 2: fears for them?

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Speaker 5: Well, this is why it goes wrong, that's the very point. Yeah,

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01:06:54,733 --> 01:06:58,453
Speaker 5: you know, and you have to have money to start

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Speaker 5: a business, any business, and you know, if you want

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01:07:01,173 --> 01:07:03,093
Speaker 5: to be a promoter, you better have a fair whack

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01:07:03,133 --> 01:07:05,573
Speaker 5: of money as a reserve because things do go wrong

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01:07:06,053 --> 01:07:08,453
Speaker 5: and you shouldn't be assuming that it take a b

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01:07:08,613 --> 01:07:10,693
Speaker 5: as a partner with you when you get when you're

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Speaker 5: going air concert, they're not as ticket buyers.

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Speaker 2: So but but Brent, a lot of promoters would have

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01:07:18,173 --> 01:07:20,693
Speaker 2: would have got where they are today through running a

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01:07:20,733 --> 01:07:23,693
Speaker 2: massive hail Mary of a concert and just fly your

1395
01:07:23,693 --> 01:07:25,373
Speaker 2: seat to the pants and pulling pulling it off.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yes, I think, so good luck to them, good

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01:07:30,853 --> 01:07:33,333
Speaker 5: luck to them, But I just don't work that way.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but so, but if we got a juicy fest,

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Speaker 2: which which is sort of the topic that's brought the stuff,

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Speaker 2: But they didn't go down because of ticket sales. They

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01:07:42,653 --> 01:07:46,213
Speaker 2: went down because they couldn't get their alcohol lights. And

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Speaker 2: this might not be exactly what we're talking about, but

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Speaker 2: I saw an excellent Facebook post from you talking about

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01:07:49,853 --> 01:07:52,973
Speaker 2: how difficult events are and how different they are being

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Speaker 2: treated when it comes to alcohol licensing compared to say

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Speaker 2: a bar and a restaurant. What are the differences there?

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's a horror show. I mean they limit you

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01:08:02,733 --> 01:08:06,533
Speaker 5: to the amount. Well, you know, okay, if you need

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01:08:06,573 --> 01:08:09,733
Speaker 5: to go to a green Field, there's not a normal venue.

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Speaker 5: You need to get those special license and to apply

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01:08:12,613 --> 01:08:14,453
Speaker 5: for a special license, they can shut you down all

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01:08:14,453 --> 01:08:17,452
Speaker 5: over the park. Often they limit you to two drinks

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01:08:17,452 --> 01:08:21,253
Speaker 5: per person, or they'll cut you down to one drink

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Speaker 5: during the show, or no drinks. They have this power

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Speaker 5: over you. But if you have something like Eaten Park

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01:08:27,372 --> 01:08:30,133
Speaker 5: or Mount Smart there's an on license. They tend to

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Speaker 5: work with an existing license that's more flexible. But right

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Speaker 5: across the country there's no consistency, so promoted promoters don't

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Speaker 5: really know what's going to happen when when they're applying

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Speaker 5: for a special license, and it makes it very difficult.

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Speaker 5: It's as if the powers that be behind it or

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Speaker 5: are trying to stop New Zealanders drinking my take on it,

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Speaker 5: and to me, that's very non key with the keeping

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01:08:56,893 --> 01:08:58,173
Speaker 5: is like they have a drink, and if you don't

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01:08:58,173 --> 01:09:01,052
Speaker 5: want a drink, don't. But if you do, why can't

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01:09:01,093 --> 01:09:03,892
Speaker 5: you buy four drinks at once and give three to

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01:09:03,933 --> 01:09:07,732
Speaker 5: your mates? I mean it kind of makes it almost

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01:09:07,772 --> 01:09:10,252
Speaker 5: makes it feel feel a bit wrong to we're buying alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you what do you think concerts? So

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01:09:13,093 --> 01:09:15,852
Speaker 2: if you say, and it does appear that they have

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01:09:15,933 --> 01:09:21,253
Speaker 2: some kind of ideological opposition to alcohol. If that's the case,

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01:09:21,293 --> 01:09:23,973
Speaker 2: why why do they Why do they target concerts and

1433
01:09:24,053 --> 01:09:25,973
Speaker 2: festivals as opposed.

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Speaker 5: To good point, that's a very good point, because they

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01:09:27,853 --> 01:09:31,253
Speaker 5: think that it's a great source of alcohol harm. Now

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Speaker 5: I just I just don't agree. I mean, you know

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01:09:34,213 --> 01:09:36,452
Speaker 5: you could buy on your weight, okay, on your way

1438
01:09:36,492 --> 01:09:38,452
Speaker 5: to the gig, you can stop at a pub and

1439
01:09:38,532 --> 01:09:40,253
Speaker 5: buy as many drinks as as you wanted to have

1440
01:09:40,333 --> 01:09:42,732
Speaker 5: any drinks as you want to stand And now I'm

1441
01:09:42,732 --> 01:09:45,772
Speaker 5: going to say anything, but you know you can only

1442
01:09:45,853 --> 01:09:48,612
Speaker 5: when you go to a concert, which has a lot

1443
01:09:48,652 --> 01:09:51,612
Speaker 5: of people to look after and monitor alcohol, you're going

1444
01:09:51,692 --> 01:09:53,652
Speaker 5: to buy two drinks at once. It doesn't make any sense.

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01:09:54,572 --> 01:09:56,772
Speaker 2: Do you think that the people that you have to

1446
01:09:56,772 --> 01:09:59,133
Speaker 2: go to to get your license and sorted that they

1447
01:09:59,293 --> 01:10:02,412
Speaker 2: want concerts to go ahead? Do you think that they?

1448
01:10:02,933 --> 01:10:05,932
Speaker 2: Or is that is it a let's see if we

1449
01:10:05,933 --> 01:10:08,093
Speaker 2: can get this done. We're going to make it work

1450
01:10:08,133 --> 01:10:11,053
Speaker 2: for you. You what are your need because we want concerts?

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01:10:11,173 --> 01:10:14,372
Speaker 2: Or is there a culture that of let's find a

1452
01:10:14,412 --> 01:10:15,852
Speaker 2: problem just to make this hard.

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01:10:17,013 --> 01:10:21,853
Speaker 5: Well, well, the people they're often called the try agencies

1454
01:10:22,173 --> 01:10:26,652
Speaker 5: of alcohol harm and health and police figures, but it

1455
01:10:26,692 --> 01:10:30,293
Speaker 5: would appear that they don't like the fact that this

1456
01:10:30,452 --> 01:10:34,012
Speaker 5: alcoholic concerts. That's how it appears, and it also appears

1457
01:10:34,173 --> 01:10:37,852
Speaker 5: they're not responsible to counsel. They're responsible to a minister,

1458
01:10:38,532 --> 01:10:40,612
Speaker 5: and the minister doesn't seem too keen to be talking

1459
01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:41,892
Speaker 5: to them.

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Speaker 3: Are you getting any movement in this area, Brent, because

1461
01:10:45,452 --> 01:10:48,452
Speaker 3: obviously you're pushing this and it seems.

1462
01:10:48,213 --> 01:10:50,372
Speaker 5: Well maybe after this I will, yeah, well.

1463
01:10:50,213 --> 01:10:51,852
Speaker 3: Hopefully, but I'm just going to say, you know, you

1464
01:10:52,412 --> 01:10:55,213
Speaker 3: the stuff we're doing it the founders of Electric ev

1465
01:10:55,372 --> 01:10:59,293
Speaker 3: Laane Way, I mean, every single organizer of major festivals.

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Speaker 4: So what happens?

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01:11:00,213 --> 01:11:02,893
Speaker 3: You know, if you keep getting this sort of behavior

1468
01:11:02,933 --> 01:11:05,652
Speaker 3: from these alcohol committees, then you're just going to shut

1469
01:11:05,692 --> 01:11:07,333
Speaker 3: up shop and not have festivals here right.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's just makes it really unpalatable. And the thing

1471
01:11:10,333 --> 01:11:13,692
Speaker 5: about what I care about with ticketing, money, alcohol all

1472
01:11:13,772 --> 01:11:16,612
Speaker 5: stuff is the punter. Why can't I go to a

1473
01:11:16,652 --> 01:11:18,972
Speaker 5: concert and buy a few beers for me and a mate.

1474
01:11:19,053 --> 01:11:21,572
Speaker 5: They won't let me at a concert even though it's

1475
01:11:21,652 --> 01:11:26,372
Speaker 5: highly monitored. It just seems like it's it's Keev's like

1476
01:11:26,412 --> 01:11:29,812
Speaker 5: to have a drink and to try and talk us

1477
01:11:29,812 --> 01:11:33,412
Speaker 5: into something else. I think it was just wrong And.

1478
01:11:33,372 --> 01:11:35,852
Speaker 2: It's a strange thing, isn't it. Because you're beholden so

1479
01:11:35,973 --> 01:11:38,893
Speaker 2: keewis do want a drink? And concerts need to be

1480
01:11:38,933 --> 01:11:40,532
Speaker 2: able to sell drinks to stay in business. So if

1481
01:11:40,572 --> 01:11:42,612
Speaker 2: we want concerts and festivals, then we're going to have

1482
01:11:42,652 --> 01:11:46,372
Speaker 2: to have some drinks, is I mean? Look, the sober

1483
01:11:46,372 --> 01:11:50,772
Speaker 2: concert is a very quiet consonant another reason. So do

1484
01:11:50,812 --> 01:11:54,013
Speaker 2: you think just the people that are choosing to and

1485
01:11:54,093 --> 01:11:56,452
Speaker 2: are getting into the positions that make this decision are

1486
01:11:57,053 --> 01:12:02,093
Speaker 2: anti alcohol chicken licking? Well that as opposed to you know,

1487
01:12:02,532 --> 01:12:04,613
Speaker 2: people from the industry like you.

1488
01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:08,972
Speaker 5: You know, Look, I think I don't know what drives them.

1489
01:12:09,412 --> 01:12:13,293
Speaker 5: I already don't, But think about this, what's happened. What's

1490
01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:16,892
Speaker 5: happened with personal responsibility? If I go to a concert

1491
01:12:16,933 --> 01:12:19,372
Speaker 5: and have so many drinks, I will fall over? Whose fault?

1492
01:12:19,452 --> 01:12:19,772
Speaker 5: Is that?

1493
01:12:20,093 --> 01:12:21,012
Speaker 4: Your my fault?

1494
01:12:21,692 --> 01:12:24,692
Speaker 5: But they would say, no, it's the promoter's fault because

1495
01:12:24,692 --> 01:12:28,372
Speaker 5: they let them get to that situation. Yeah, and they

1496
01:12:28,372 --> 01:12:30,372
Speaker 5: could even be you know, the person's sold in the

1497
01:12:30,452 --> 01:12:33,173
Speaker 5: drinks security that they could all be in the firing line.

1498
01:12:33,732 --> 01:12:36,973
Speaker 5: I think it's just wrong. I think personal responsibility is

1499
01:12:37,013 --> 01:12:40,093
Speaker 5: where it's at. And if you try and legislate and

1500
01:12:40,133 --> 01:12:43,133
Speaker 5: make rules for people in every sense, you're going to

1501
01:12:43,133 --> 01:12:44,253
Speaker 5: fail because you can't.

1502
01:12:45,812 --> 01:12:50,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no, no, I agree one hundred percent. And

1503
01:12:50,973 --> 01:12:52,852
Speaker 2: what annoys me is the people that are trying to

1504
01:12:52,853 --> 01:12:56,612
Speaker 2: build things and put things on and make things happen

1505
01:12:57,053 --> 01:13:00,572
Speaker 2: are the people that get absolutely put through the ringer

1506
01:13:00,612 --> 01:13:02,933
Speaker 2: to the point where they're pulling out their here to

1507
01:13:03,013 --> 01:13:06,492
Speaker 2: get past these people that are putting up barriers that

1508
01:13:06,532 --> 01:13:09,213
Speaker 2: aren't in line with the thinking of of the people

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01:13:09,213 --> 01:13:15,093
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to be working for. That that's yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 5: They seem to be tasked to stop people drinking. You're

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01:13:18,893 --> 01:13:23,133
Speaker 5: not going to do that. It's not going to happen, and.

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01:13:23,053 --> 01:13:25,972
Speaker 2: We don't want to stop another news brand. It's twenty

1514
01:13:26,053 --> 01:13:28,612
Speaker 2: years since we made the excellent album Brown Sabbath Together

1515
01:13:28,652 --> 01:13:30,213
Speaker 2: that you produced. Have you listened to that lately?

1516
01:13:31,093 --> 01:13:33,372
Speaker 5: I hand it on the other Nation's a very good record.

1517
01:13:33,412 --> 01:13:35,053
Speaker 2: It's Buddy it is.

1518
01:13:36,572 --> 01:13:39,892
Speaker 5: He is as a classic. Yeah, there are so many

1519
01:13:39,933 --> 01:13:41,852
Speaker 5: good songs on that album. It's just the hit after

1520
01:13:41,973 --> 01:13:42,692
Speaker 5: hit after hit.

1521
01:13:43,093 --> 01:13:45,532
Speaker 2: It's a great album. You've got some powerful song sounds

1522
01:13:45,532 --> 01:13:47,852
Speaker 2: out of the Lab recording studio. Anyway, thank you so

1523
01:13:47,933 --> 01:13:48,652
Speaker 2: much time, Brent.

1524
01:13:48,812 --> 01:13:52,253
Speaker 3: Good to chair, Brent good phone. Guys, go well that

1525
01:13:52,572 --> 01:13:56,053
Speaker 3: iss equals entertainment co found that brand equals but we're

1526
01:13:56,053 --> 01:13:58,412
Speaker 3: going to pick up on that because he's not wrong.

1527
01:13:58,532 --> 01:14:05,093
Speaker 3: There is this weird dichotomy between bars and restaurants and

1528
01:14:05,213 --> 01:14:09,452
Speaker 3: clubs versus festivals that this is massive pushback at the

1529
01:14:09,452 --> 01:14:12,692
Speaker 3: moment for any alcohol Electric IV had it, Lane Way

1530
01:14:12,772 --> 01:14:15,412
Speaker 3: had it, the constants that Brent wants to organize has it.

1531
01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:17,293
Speaker 2: It's crazy and there's a bunch of people that want

1532
01:14:17,293 --> 01:14:20,293
Speaker 2: to save us from ourselves when we are the people

1533
01:14:20,572 --> 01:14:21,932
Speaker 2: and maybe we don't want to be saved.

1534
01:14:22,133 --> 01:14:24,772
Speaker 3: Teclearly, Oh eight hundred and eightyighteen eighty is the number

1535
01:14:24,772 --> 01:14:27,492
Speaker 3: to call. It's thirteen to three the.

1536
01:14:27,492 --> 01:14:30,052
Speaker 4: Issues that affect you and a bit of fun along

1537
01:14:30,093 --> 01:14:30,412
Speaker 4: the way.

1538
01:14:30,612 --> 01:14:34,572
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC eighty Innovation,

1539
01:14:34,772 --> 01:14:37,772
Speaker 1: Style and design have it all Youth Talks said, be.

1540
01:14:38,572 --> 01:14:43,653
Speaker 3: It is ten to three afternoon peat.

1541
01:14:44,492 --> 01:14:47,572
Speaker 17: Yeah. I agree. They should be in a trust I reckon,

1542
01:14:48,013 --> 01:14:50,253
Speaker 17: But you know you you want to go to the event,

1543
01:14:50,333 --> 01:14:51,972
Speaker 17: you want to see it, and if they can't come

1544
01:14:52,053 --> 01:14:56,293
Speaker 17: up the front up for money to organize it, well

1545
01:14:56,293 --> 01:14:58,772
Speaker 17: they shouldn't be in the game. Because once again, there's

1546
01:14:58,772 --> 01:15:00,652
Speaker 17: so many cowboys out there will have a go at

1547
01:15:00,692 --> 01:15:03,052
Speaker 17: it and ruin. It's for the ones who have spent

1548
01:15:03,093 --> 01:15:05,412
Speaker 17: their hard earn money to enjoy their money for that event.

1549
01:15:06,333 --> 01:15:09,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're yours. I get that, and I totally agree.

1550
01:15:09,772 --> 01:15:14,652
Speaker 2: But most people that have become big promoters have had

1551
01:15:14,652 --> 01:15:16,532
Speaker 2: a big hail Mary at the start of their career

1552
01:15:16,532 --> 01:15:19,053
Speaker 2: to get the capitol where they're where they've done it.

1553
01:15:19,213 --> 01:15:20,732
Speaker 2: You know, we'll build it, and you build it and

1554
01:15:20,732 --> 01:15:25,213
Speaker 2: they will come. So like it's dodgy, but as you say, cowboys,

1555
01:15:25,213 --> 01:15:28,253
Speaker 2: but I guarantee most of them have had that one

1556
01:15:28,293 --> 01:15:29,172
Speaker 2: that got them started.

1557
01:15:30,973 --> 01:15:34,372
Speaker 17: Yeah, but I think you know it's up to the end.

1558
01:15:34,372 --> 01:15:37,093
Speaker 17: They get some sort of insurance or something. Sure, if

1559
01:15:37,133 --> 01:15:41,012
Speaker 17: they work hard and they them enough stones, I think

1560
01:15:41,013 --> 01:15:43,692
Speaker 17: they can still have the venue somehow. They've got to

1561
01:15:43,732 --> 01:15:45,772
Speaker 17: try the harder tour and just taking the or the

1562
01:15:45,812 --> 01:15:49,973
Speaker 17: easy option. I think ye doesn't doesn't work tough. You know,

1563
01:15:50,053 --> 01:15:51,212
Speaker 17: I think it's the wrong attitude.

1564
01:15:51,253 --> 01:15:52,732
Speaker 3: Have you ever been burnt beat.

1565
01:15:54,093 --> 01:15:54,133
Speaker 12: On?

1566
01:15:54,333 --> 01:15:54,772
Speaker 17: Conscious?

1567
01:15:54,812 --> 01:15:54,852
Speaker 5: No?

1568
01:15:55,013 --> 01:15:55,452
Speaker 17: I haven't.

1569
01:15:55,492 --> 01:15:56,372
Speaker 3: No, not like that.

1570
01:15:57,492 --> 01:16:00,333
Speaker 17: Even used to get those tickets and wasn't goose go

1571
01:16:00,333 --> 01:16:04,052
Speaker 17: go ones where they used to call it those. Yeah,

1572
01:16:04,133 --> 01:16:07,412
Speaker 17: and I'm lucky I flopped it, you know, so No,

1573
01:16:07,452 --> 01:16:09,572
Speaker 17: it's so far. I have not been a lot of

1574
01:16:09,572 --> 01:16:11,612
Speaker 17: concerts so far had not been burned in a concert,

1575
01:16:11,612 --> 01:16:13,293
Speaker 17: and I don't hope they don't get burned either.

1576
01:16:13,612 --> 01:16:13,732
Speaker 7: Yea.

1577
01:16:13,772 --> 01:16:15,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for your call, Pete.

1578
01:16:16,372 --> 01:16:16,532
Speaker 11: Matt.

1579
01:16:16,612 --> 01:16:18,253
Speaker 2: It's not that we don't want to be saved. It's

1580
01:16:18,293 --> 01:16:20,293
Speaker 2: that ninety percent of us don't need to be saved

1581
01:16:20,893 --> 01:16:23,852
Speaker 2: to stop taking away our personal choices. Yeah, that's actually

1582
01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:25,732
Speaker 2: a better way to put it. Yeah, but it does

1583
01:16:25,772 --> 01:16:29,933
Speaker 2: seem that the people that are making these decisions around licensing,

1584
01:16:30,013 --> 01:16:34,412
Speaker 2: around festivals and events seem to be coming from the

1585
01:16:34,492 --> 01:16:39,013
Speaker 2: opinion that alcohol is bad and the less it can

1586
01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:40,932
Speaker 2: be used the better, which I don't think is really

1587
01:16:40,973 --> 01:16:43,812
Speaker 2: their remit at all. I think they've got the around

1588
01:16:43,853 --> 01:16:47,253
Speaker 2: the wrong way. They should be just trying to help

1589
01:16:47,293 --> 01:16:50,652
Speaker 2: things to happen and remove hurdles, you know, remove hurdles

1590
01:16:50,893 --> 01:16:55,213
Speaker 2: from things that get people together and help people that

1591
01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:57,692
Speaker 2: build things. It's very easy to say no and to

1592
01:16:57,732 --> 01:17:02,213
Speaker 2: be scared and to be judgmental, very very easy to

1593
01:17:02,253 --> 01:17:04,532
Speaker 2: do that, and then what happens is Brent Eckles says,

1594
01:17:05,013 --> 01:17:07,652
Speaker 2: you have these concerts that are people taking a risk

1595
01:17:07,652 --> 01:17:11,293
Speaker 2: and putting things on and trying to entertain people, they

1596
01:17:11,333 --> 01:17:13,812
Speaker 2: get slammed. Meanwhile, you can go to the bottle store

1597
01:17:13,853 --> 01:17:16,053
Speaker 2: and buy ten one, one, two fives of gin if

1598
01:17:16,053 --> 01:17:17,732
Speaker 2: you want, exactly and take them home.

1599
01:17:17,893 --> 01:17:18,852
Speaker 3: Doesn't make sense, and that.

1600
01:17:18,812 --> 01:17:21,412
Speaker 2: Bottlestore is not doing anything. Yeah, then that bottlestore is

1601
01:17:21,452 --> 01:17:23,053
Speaker 2: not doing anything building anything, you know?

1602
01:17:23,133 --> 01:17:25,972
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. Hey, now just quickly before we play some messages.

1603
01:17:26,013 --> 01:17:28,892
Speaker 3: A lot of techs coming through about and earthquake and Viicago.

1604
01:17:28,933 --> 01:17:30,892
Speaker 3: So according to g O neet just came through a

1605
01:17:30,933 --> 01:17:35,853
Speaker 3: magnitude six point nine that hit at two forty three pm.

1606
01:17:36,133 --> 01:17:38,093
Speaker 3: So hopefully everyone's all good down that way.

1607
01:17:38,173 --> 01:17:40,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, people feeling it in Dunedin as well. Yeah, so

1608
01:17:40,652 --> 01:17:42,892
Speaker 2: few point ninete big oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1609
01:17:42,933 --> 01:17:44,652
Speaker 2: eighty nineteen nine two tell us what's going on?

1610
01:17:44,812 --> 01:17:46,133
Speaker 3: Yep? It is seven to three.

1611
01:17:47,333 --> 01:17:49,732
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1612
01:17:49,772 --> 01:17:50,412
Speaker 4: along the way.

1613
01:17:50,612 --> 01:17:54,572
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty Innovation,

1614
01:17:54,772 --> 01:17:57,733
Speaker 1: Style and Design, have it all Us Talks.

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01:17:57,492 --> 01:18:02,213
Speaker 3: dB News Talks dB. It is four to three.

1616
01:18:02,492 --> 01:18:04,093
Speaker 2: I agree and disagree with you, guests. I have a

1617
01:18:04,133 --> 01:18:07,932
Speaker 2: lot to do with loquer licensing applications through local councils.

1618
01:18:07,973 --> 01:18:10,013
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what type of look a license it

1619
01:18:10,133 --> 01:18:12,932
Speaker 2: is be at Barza events. The current culture of council's

1620
01:18:13,013 --> 01:18:17,652
Speaker 2: Health and police is to cancel. They will delay and

1621
01:18:17,732 --> 01:18:20,253
Speaker 2: object to nearly every application put in front of them,

1622
01:18:20,293 --> 01:18:23,572
Speaker 2: anti alcohol, anti fun, anti business, anti New Zealand.

1623
01:18:23,812 --> 01:18:26,492
Speaker 3: Thank you for that text. But why why do they

1624
01:18:26,532 --> 01:18:27,732
Speaker 3: want to say no to everything?

1625
01:18:27,772 --> 01:18:30,013
Speaker 2: Well, well, it's the same thing as transport agencies that

1626
01:18:30,013 --> 01:18:31,932
Speaker 2: don't want people in cars. It's not really for them

1627
01:18:31,933 --> 01:18:33,852
Speaker 2: to decide how we get around. It's just to make

1628
01:18:33,893 --> 01:18:37,333
Speaker 2: it happen. Yeah, it's not to decide how we want

1629
01:18:37,333 --> 01:18:39,173
Speaker 2: to spend our time and what we want to drink.

1630
01:18:39,293 --> 01:18:41,772
Speaker 2: That's just uff up to them to make it happen.

1631
01:18:41,853 --> 01:18:45,092
Speaker 3: Insane, right, Thank you very much for that. Really enjoyed

1632
01:18:45,093 --> 01:18:49,213
Speaker 3: that discussion. Coming up News Sport and whether you're listening

1633
01:18:49,213 --> 01:18:51,813
Speaker 3: to Matt and Tyler, hope you have in a great afternoon.

1634
01:18:52,133 --> 01:18:53,372
Speaker 3: We'll see you on the other.

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01:18:53,213 --> 01:18:59,892
Speaker 1: Side talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

1636
01:18:59,973 --> 01:19:03,932
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety News Talks.

1637
01:19:03,933 --> 01:19:06,252
Speaker 6: They'd be good afternoon.

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01:19:06,293 --> 01:19:08,532
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. So as you hear in

1639
01:19:08,572 --> 01:19:11,132
Speaker 3: the news with Raylena. Very deep six point nine magnitude

1640
01:19:11,213 --> 01:19:14,812
Speaker 3: quakers rattled the country south at about quarter to three.

1641
01:19:14,973 --> 01:19:18,692
Speaker 3: The shake centered one hundred and forty kilometers southwest of

1642
01:19:18,732 --> 01:19:22,773
Speaker 3: tu Atarparti in Southland, at a depth of one hundred kilometers,

1643
01:19:22,812 --> 01:19:26,893
Speaker 3: so GEO neet rather has classed it is a strong earthquake.

1644
01:19:26,933 --> 01:19:29,092
Speaker 3: We had a truckload of texts come through.

1645
01:19:29,333 --> 01:19:32,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, as far north as Dunedin. Yeah, I was talking

1646
01:19:32,293 --> 01:19:34,572
Speaker 2: about this this shake. So did you feel it? Nine

1647
01:19:34,652 --> 01:19:36,972
Speaker 2: two nine two or eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1648
01:19:37,173 --> 01:19:40,412
Speaker 2: loved them hear from here. We're getting varying reports, some

1649
01:19:40,412 --> 01:19:42,492
Speaker 2: people saying it's nothing, some people saying it was something.

1650
01:19:42,572 --> 01:19:45,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, So get on the blower and if you felt it,

1651
01:19:45,173 --> 01:19:46,893
Speaker 3: we'd love to hear from you on eight hundred and

1652
01:19:46,933 --> 01:19:49,612
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. But in the meantime, let's have a

1653
01:19:49,893 --> 01:19:54,333
Speaker 3: chat about twenty three and me and sites similar to

1654
01:19:54,572 --> 01:19:56,933
Speaker 3: twenty three and meters. It has gone bankrupt. It was

1655
01:19:56,973 --> 01:20:00,532
Speaker 3: one of the major at home testing companies in which

1656
01:20:00,612 --> 01:20:02,572
Speaker 3: you know the drill you're send through your DNA to

1657
01:20:02,692 --> 01:20:05,732
Speaker 3: this particular company, it puts it into its data and

1658
01:20:05,853 --> 01:20:08,812
Speaker 3: tells you a little bit about your lineage.

1659
01:20:09,013 --> 01:20:11,293
Speaker 2: And what a lot of people didn't know is that

1660
01:20:11,372 --> 01:20:16,253
Speaker 2: some of that data was being made available for companies,

1661
01:20:16,372 --> 01:20:19,532
Speaker 2: Pharma circle companies to do little bits of experiments, and

1662
01:20:19,652 --> 01:20:23,133
Speaker 2: not experiments, but to have a look at trends across society.

1663
01:20:23,372 --> 01:20:25,013
Speaker 2: And I mean when you say didn't know about it,

1664
01:20:25,013 --> 01:20:27,293
Speaker 2: I mean when you signed up that that was in

1665
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:30,293
Speaker 2: the conditions. But the thing about twenty three and Me,

1666
01:20:30,532 --> 01:20:33,133
Speaker 2: it was not that great a business model because you

1667
01:20:33,213 --> 01:20:35,213
Speaker 2: only need to do it once. It's not a recurring thing.

1668
01:20:35,612 --> 01:20:38,013
Speaker 2: You know, great businesses you go through the drive through

1669
01:20:38,053 --> 01:20:41,093
Speaker 2: once a week, but you drive through, find out what

1670
01:20:41,173 --> 01:20:44,852
Speaker 2: your you know, your ancestry was, and then you've done

1671
01:20:44,853 --> 01:20:45,932
Speaker 2: it once and that's out.

1672
01:20:46,053 --> 01:20:48,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, not too many repeat customers. But we want to

1673
01:20:48,532 --> 01:20:52,253
Speaker 3: hear from you. I mean, one, have you sent information

1674
01:20:52,372 --> 01:20:54,692
Speaker 3: to twenty three and me? And are you a bit

1675
01:20:54,692 --> 01:20:57,412
Speaker 3: worried now that it's gone bankrupt? What's going to happen

1676
01:20:57,492 --> 01:20:58,893
Speaker 3: to your information?

1677
01:20:59,293 --> 01:20:59,452
Speaker 5: Oh?

1678
01:20:59,452 --> 01:21:01,253
Speaker 3: Eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. But also if

1679
01:21:01,293 --> 01:21:04,692
Speaker 3: you've sent your DNA to any of these types of companies.

1680
01:21:04,732 --> 01:21:07,692
Speaker 3: Ancestry dot com is another major one. There's about half

1681
01:21:07,692 --> 01:21:10,132
Speaker 3: a dozen out there that would be considered major company.

1682
01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:13,772
Speaker 3: If you've sent DNA to these companies, what have you

1683
01:21:13,812 --> 01:21:16,452
Speaker 3: found out? Because there's been some incredible stories that have

1684
01:21:16,452 --> 01:21:18,333
Speaker 3: come to the forefront of people that have tried to

1685
01:21:18,372 --> 01:21:20,572
Speaker 3: figure out a bit about their lineage, what their makeup

1686
01:21:20,652 --> 01:21:24,452
Speaker 3: is made up of, and done a bit of extra

1687
01:21:24,532 --> 01:21:27,173
Speaker 3: digging into who their family members were in distant past.

1688
01:21:27,372 --> 01:21:29,492
Speaker 2: What's interesting is that a family might have a story

1689
01:21:29,732 --> 01:21:32,213
Speaker 2: of what they are and where they came from and

1690
01:21:32,772 --> 01:21:35,532
Speaker 2: what's happened, but that story isn't always true, And like

1691
01:21:35,572 --> 01:21:39,253
Speaker 2: I'll share a story later about my ancestry and how

1692
01:21:39,372 --> 01:21:44,053
Speaker 2: it was very different when actually looked into and look,

1693
01:21:44,412 --> 01:21:46,053
Speaker 2: there's no reason not to believe that twenty three and

1694
01:21:46,173 --> 01:21:50,133
Speaker 2: me or the one that my sister used to look

1695
01:21:50,133 --> 01:21:53,213
Speaker 2: into it, you know that they know more than just

1696
01:21:53,333 --> 01:21:56,572
Speaker 2: some rubbish made up by potential criminals in your family past.

1697
01:21:56,652 --> 01:21:59,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1698
01:21:59,333 --> 01:22:02,532
Speaker 3: number to call if you have given a bit of

1699
01:22:02,532 --> 01:22:04,973
Speaker 3: a DNA sample to one of these companies. What did

1700
01:22:05,013 --> 01:22:07,772
Speaker 3: you find out and did it make you do a

1701
01:22:07,772 --> 01:22:10,253
Speaker 3: little bit more digging? Love to hear from you nine

1702
01:22:10,333 --> 01:22:12,573
Speaker 3: two nine too. If you want to send a text message,

1703
01:22:12,812 --> 01:22:17,772
Speaker 3: it is ten past three afternoon, thirteen past three, and

1704
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:20,293
Speaker 3: we're talking about sites like twenty three and me. It

1705
01:22:20,293 --> 01:22:23,293
Speaker 3: has gone bankrupt, but there's half a dozen other sites

1706
01:22:23,333 --> 01:22:26,333
Speaker 3: similar to that. Ancestry dot com is another major one

1707
01:22:26,812 --> 01:22:28,892
Speaker 3: where you know the drill. You send your DNA into

1708
01:22:28,933 --> 01:22:31,133
Speaker 3: these companies and they can tell you a little bit

1709
01:22:31,253 --> 01:22:33,093
Speaker 3: about your lineage and your ancestry.

1710
01:22:33,173 --> 01:22:35,253
Speaker 2: It is interesting with the selling of that. You know

1711
01:22:35,293 --> 01:22:39,093
Speaker 2: it's gone bankrupt, but you know they need to make

1712
01:22:39,133 --> 01:22:40,892
Speaker 2: the most money they can get out of it, and

1713
01:22:40,933 --> 01:22:44,133
Speaker 2: they say that data privacy is an important consideration. But

1714
01:22:44,213 --> 01:22:47,213
Speaker 2: there is some talk that pharmaceutical companies might also be

1715
01:22:47,293 --> 01:22:49,572
Speaker 2: interested in buying a portion of twenty three a meters

1716
01:22:49,652 --> 01:22:53,892
Speaker 2: revenues so they can look at the company's data that

1717
01:22:53,893 --> 01:22:57,532
Speaker 2: they've collected from fifteen million people's genetic makeup to design

1718
01:22:57,572 --> 01:23:01,292
Speaker 2: new drugs, which is an interesting upshot of the situation.

1719
01:23:01,532 --> 01:23:04,213
Speaker 2: But you can delete your data, You can ask for

1720
01:23:04,253 --> 01:23:06,932
Speaker 2: it to be deleted and thrown out because you spit

1721
01:23:07,013 --> 01:23:08,333
Speaker 2: in the thing and send it off, don't you.

1722
01:23:08,412 --> 01:23:09,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, how would you feel about that?

1723
01:23:09,612 --> 01:23:09,692
Speaker 5: That?

1724
01:23:09,732 --> 01:23:13,532
Speaker 3: If they're using your DNA for the good of what

1725
01:23:13,572 --> 01:23:17,013
Speaker 3: they say is science or the progress of science. I

1726
01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:18,452
Speaker 3: think I'd be okay with that.

1727
01:23:18,772 --> 01:23:21,812
Speaker 2: I wouldn't care. My DNA's everywhere. It's all over the shop,

1728
01:23:21,853 --> 01:23:22,652
Speaker 2: it's all over this room.

1729
01:23:23,853 --> 01:23:26,412
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1730
01:23:26,652 --> 01:23:29,333
Speaker 3: if you have sent your DNA to the likes of

1731
01:23:29,333 --> 01:23:32,333
Speaker 3: ancestry dot com. Love to hear what you've found out,

1732
01:23:32,893 --> 01:23:35,652
Speaker 3: and just got a message here, getay, guys. Nathan Wallace,

1733
01:23:36,053 --> 01:23:40,612
Speaker 3: well know and neuro educator. He discovered who his father

1734
01:23:40,853 --> 01:23:43,372
Speaker 3: was by ancestry dot com and met him two weeks

1735
01:23:43,412 --> 01:23:44,333
Speaker 3: before he passed away.

1736
01:23:44,572 --> 01:23:45,253
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

1737
01:23:45,293 --> 01:23:46,412
Speaker 3: That's an incredible story.

1738
01:23:46,213 --> 01:23:47,412
Speaker 2: Isn't it. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

1739
01:23:47,452 --> 01:23:53,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray, how are you this afternoon? Very good? And

1740
01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:56,853
Speaker 3: what did you find out through ancestry dot com?

1741
01:23:57,572 --> 01:24:01,652
Speaker 10: Well? I found Well, firstly, I got contacted by a

1742
01:24:01,933 --> 01:24:06,013
Speaker 10: guy claiming he was my brother's son and he had

1743
01:24:06,013 --> 01:24:08,612
Speaker 10: done this DNA, and I came back that he was

1744
01:24:08,612 --> 01:24:12,372
Speaker 10: my brother's son. And then he in his DNA and

1745
01:24:12,492 --> 01:24:17,333
Speaker 10: found that he had a half brother of a part

1746
01:24:17,412 --> 01:24:22,612
Speaker 10: of the South Island, and then they contacted me. So

1747
01:24:22,933 --> 01:24:26,812
Speaker 10: I just found two nephews one two I didn't even

1748
01:24:26,853 --> 01:24:29,972
Speaker 10: know I had, and also missing Nissa I hadn't seen

1749
01:24:30,013 --> 01:24:31,132
Speaker 10: for forty six years.

1750
01:24:32,173 --> 01:24:35,852
Speaker 2: Wow, how cool? And so with what's what's the situation

1751
01:24:35,893 --> 01:24:36,412
Speaker 2: with your brother?

1752
01:24:37,652 --> 01:24:39,253
Speaker 10: Oh, he passed away forty years ago?

1753
01:24:39,412 --> 01:24:43,772
Speaker 16: Oh okay, yeah, yep, and he went for a bit

1754
01:24:43,772 --> 01:24:48,412
Speaker 16: of a horrible divorce and they took off, and she

1755
01:24:48,412 --> 01:24:50,772
Speaker 16: she must have been pregnant when she took off.

1756
01:24:50,812 --> 01:24:53,372
Speaker 10: That's why we didn't know he was born.

1757
01:24:53,893 --> 01:24:56,932
Speaker 2: So did he know he not know anything about this

1758
01:24:56,933 --> 01:24:58,213
Speaker 2: this son at all?

1759
01:25:00,213 --> 01:25:04,253
Speaker 10: Oh, I'm not too sure. I don't believe so. I

1760
01:25:04,293 --> 01:25:04,893
Speaker 10: don't believe so.

1761
01:25:05,253 --> 01:25:07,452
Speaker 2: And so how was that first meeting up with this

1762
01:25:07,612 --> 01:25:08,212
Speaker 2: new nephew.

1763
01:25:09,173 --> 01:25:09,333
Speaker 5: Oh?

1764
01:25:09,372 --> 01:25:11,372
Speaker 10: Do you know that program that they do on TV

1765
01:25:11,412 --> 01:25:12,412
Speaker 10: where they find people?

1766
01:25:12,652 --> 01:25:16,252
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always cry and they find the people beautiful.

1767
01:25:16,692 --> 01:25:18,333
Speaker 10: I was so nervous. I took my dog.

1768
01:25:19,692 --> 01:25:20,812
Speaker 2: And how did your dog take it?

1769
01:25:22,492 --> 01:25:23,133
Speaker 10: Actually took it?

1770
01:25:23,173 --> 01:25:24,812
Speaker 2: Well, the dog was crying as well.

1771
01:25:24,933 --> 01:25:25,133
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1772
01:25:26,732 --> 01:25:28,652
Speaker 10: And if you've had a couple of we've had a

1773
01:25:28,692 --> 01:25:30,612
Speaker 10: couple of trips. Now I've headed him up here and

1774
01:25:30,772 --> 01:25:33,333
Speaker 10: I'm actually going down down south to see them for

1775
01:25:33,452 --> 01:25:34,333
Speaker 10: ten days at Easter.

1776
01:25:35,333 --> 01:25:38,293
Speaker 2: And what do you think it's meant for him to find,

1777
01:25:38,572 --> 01:25:41,173
Speaker 2: you know, reconnects that side of his family.

1778
01:25:41,933 --> 01:25:44,932
Speaker 10: Well, I mean he's finally gets tough because he knows

1779
01:25:44,933 --> 01:25:48,053
Speaker 10: he's missed out on outside of the family. Yeah, I

1780
01:25:48,213 --> 01:25:52,572
Speaker 10: mean his grandfather or grandmother, and yeah, so's he's a

1781
01:25:52,572 --> 01:25:56,333
Speaker 10: bit annoyed with that. And yeah, and so he's got

1782
01:25:56,333 --> 01:26:00,013
Speaker 10: a different name, so his kids have got a different name,

1783
01:26:00,093 --> 01:26:04,772
Speaker 10: so it's not really taken on our Yeah, our name.

1784
01:26:05,053 --> 01:26:09,452
Speaker 2: How old is he now? Right? He sicks forty six?

1785
01:26:09,492 --> 01:26:15,733
Speaker 2: Did you say there's plenty of time for him to Yeah.

1786
01:26:17,412 --> 01:26:19,532
Speaker 2: There's plenty of people that have their families and just

1787
01:26:19,612 --> 01:26:23,092
Speaker 2: left them, let them drift away in their thirties and forties,

1788
01:26:23,692 --> 01:26:26,932
Speaker 2: So if he can reconnect now and then, then that's

1789
01:26:26,973 --> 01:26:27,972
Speaker 2: a fantastic thing.

1790
01:26:28,893 --> 01:26:30,492
Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah, we're thrilled.

1791
01:26:31,053 --> 01:26:31,812
Speaker 2: That's great.

1792
01:26:32,253 --> 01:26:33,132
Speaker 3: That's a great story.

1793
01:26:33,253 --> 01:26:35,572
Speaker 2: And and seeing as you lost your brother, is that

1794
01:26:35,772 --> 01:26:39,093
Speaker 2: is and that must be a great connection for you

1795
01:26:39,173 --> 01:26:40,372
Speaker 2: back to him.

1796
01:26:40,893 --> 01:26:45,412
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've lost him from suicide. So talking to my

1797
01:26:45,492 --> 01:26:48,532
Speaker 10: nephews like talking to my brother, and I brought that back.

1798
01:26:48,572 --> 01:26:50,692
Speaker 5: It's cool, dude.

1799
01:26:51,372 --> 01:26:53,053
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for sharing your story. Ray

1800
01:26:53,133 --> 01:26:56,772
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. No, love your show, guys, Thanks and

1801
01:26:56,933 --> 01:26:58,732
Speaker 2: all the best with your two new nephews.

1802
01:26:59,492 --> 01:27:00,253
Speaker 10: Okay, thank you.

1803
01:27:00,732 --> 01:27:02,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that is money well spined, doesn't it. I

1804
01:27:02,973 --> 01:27:04,572
Speaker 3: mean that's a pretty incredible story.

1805
01:27:04,692 --> 01:27:05,692
Speaker 2: What's that show called again?

1806
01:27:06,173 --> 01:27:06,372
Speaker 5: Oh?

1807
01:27:06,853 --> 01:27:07,932
Speaker 2: And what's the guy that hosted?

1808
01:27:07,973 --> 01:27:10,572
Speaker 3: He is great.

1809
01:27:08,572 --> 01:27:12,933
Speaker 2: Oh, he's done a couple of similar shows.

1810
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:14,652
Speaker 3: And missing pieces.

1811
01:27:14,933 --> 01:27:17,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's another one. Yeah, and that that stuff

1812
01:27:17,812 --> 01:27:21,492
Speaker 2: will Yeah. That that show hits you right in the heart.

1813
01:27:21,772 --> 01:27:25,812
Speaker 3: Yea, punches you right in the heart. Not many dry

1814
01:27:25,853 --> 01:27:27,692
Speaker 3: eyes after watching that the meeting.

1815
01:27:28,093 --> 01:27:30,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sharon, you did a DNA test.

1816
01:27:32,093 --> 01:27:32,492
Speaker 10: I did.

1817
01:27:33,133 --> 01:27:37,452
Speaker 14: Yeah. I did a DNA test about four years ago

1818
01:27:38,293 --> 01:27:42,532
Speaker 14: and found out some information about my father's parentage because

1819
01:27:42,572 --> 01:27:44,812
Speaker 14: he found out he was adopted when he got married.

1820
01:27:46,492 --> 01:27:48,932
Speaker 14: Couldn't find out who it was because no one would talk.

1821
01:27:49,013 --> 01:27:50,973
Speaker 14: He found out eventually who his mother was, but we

1822
01:27:51,013 --> 01:27:54,173
Speaker 14: still didn't know who his father was. So when the

1823
01:27:54,293 --> 01:27:59,412
Speaker 14: DNA tests became available, I did one and I found

1824
01:27:59,572 --> 01:28:02,372
Speaker 14: that he had a brother that lived about a kilometer

1825
01:28:02,492 --> 01:28:03,253
Speaker 14: away from him.

1826
01:28:03,412 --> 01:28:03,812
Speaker 2: Wow.

1827
01:28:04,933 --> 01:28:07,732
Speaker 14: And he had two other brothers in Central Otago, and

1828
01:28:07,772 --> 01:28:11,532
Speaker 14: a sister, perf and another sister that had died, and

1829
01:28:11,572 --> 01:28:12,972
Speaker 14: I think there was a couple of others that had

1830
01:28:13,013 --> 01:28:18,333
Speaker 14: died in the family. It's quite incredible really, And he's

1831
01:28:18,372 --> 01:28:21,853
Speaker 14: having his ninetieth birthday on Thursday.

1832
01:28:22,173 --> 01:28:25,772
Speaker 2: As he reached out to all these people and connections.

1833
01:28:26,692 --> 01:28:33,653
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely fantastic, and it's been just an amazing experience

1834
01:28:33,853 --> 01:28:36,973
Speaker 14: and something you know, fear and he sees it that

1835
01:28:37,093 --> 01:28:40,293
Speaker 14: I that I've given him a gift of his family

1836
01:28:40,372 --> 01:28:43,333
Speaker 14: that he longed for. He was adopted into a family

1837
01:28:43,412 --> 01:28:45,772
Speaker 14: that we thought were random people. Turns out they were

1838
01:28:45,812 --> 01:28:47,213
Speaker 14: distant relatives.

1839
01:28:46,732 --> 01:28:47,333
Speaker 7: Of his father.

1840
01:28:48,692 --> 01:28:53,372
Speaker 14: There's a lot of secrets that you find credible.

1841
01:28:53,213 --> 01:28:55,692
Speaker 2: And so they were relevant relatives of the father and

1842
01:28:55,692 --> 01:28:58,093
Speaker 2: that had been organized. They weren't just coincidentally.

1843
01:28:58,612 --> 01:29:00,293
Speaker 14: Yeah, we will need to believe that it was a

1844
01:29:00,372 --> 01:29:06,052
Speaker 14: random person adopted him. But then we found out through

1845
01:29:06,612 --> 01:29:10,452
Speaker 14: the DNA testing and also in getting in contact with

1846
01:29:10,492 --> 01:29:11,973
Speaker 14: one of his brothers who had done a bit of

1847
01:29:11,973 --> 01:29:17,452
Speaker 14: research into the family. And yeah, the family he was

1848
01:29:17,492 --> 01:29:20,732
Speaker 14: adopted into had a relative of theirs that married a

1849
01:29:20,772 --> 01:29:24,572
Speaker 14: relative of his actual brothers. So yeah, there was a

1850
01:29:26,732 --> 01:29:30,692
Speaker 14: complex and people don't talk like from back in the

1851
01:29:30,973 --> 01:29:34,892
Speaker 14: nineteen thirty five dad was born. People just don't talk,

1852
01:29:35,732 --> 01:29:38,492
Speaker 14: so you know, but now they would never have imagined,

1853
01:29:38,612 --> 01:29:42,133
Speaker 14: like DNA tests, they've taken all these secrets for their

1854
01:29:42,253 --> 01:29:42,772
Speaker 14: grade and.

1855
01:29:43,013 --> 01:29:47,892
Speaker 2: Now it was coming and did the members of the

1856
01:29:47,893 --> 01:29:50,293
Speaker 2: family have any idea that your father existed.

1857
01:29:51,213 --> 01:29:56,333
Speaker 14: No, No, not at all. And I had that come

1858
01:29:56,412 --> 01:29:58,572
Speaker 14: up from a girdle and I knew his father. I

1859
01:29:58,692 --> 01:30:01,692
Speaker 14: found out his father's name through a contact through during

1860
01:30:01,692 --> 01:30:05,253
Speaker 14: the DNA tisting, and she told me his father's name.

1861
01:30:05,253 --> 01:30:07,333
Speaker 14: I had no idea because I knew he was dead,

1862
01:30:07,893 --> 01:30:10,973
Speaker 14: but but I had no idea how to sort of

1863
01:30:11,133 --> 01:30:13,213
Speaker 14: go from there. And then because when you're on the

1864
01:30:13,652 --> 01:30:16,452
Speaker 14: when you have the ancestry the DNA matching, it comes

1865
01:30:16,532 --> 01:30:19,093
Speaker 14: up with matches and it gives you a score. And

1866
01:30:19,173 --> 01:30:23,692
Speaker 14: I got a score from this girl, and it said

1867
01:30:23,732 --> 01:30:26,492
Speaker 14: that I could potentially be a third cousin and that

1868
01:30:26,572 --> 01:30:29,293
Speaker 14: she had the same surname as I knew dad's father's

1869
01:30:29,372 --> 01:30:31,812
Speaker 14: name was. So I reached out to her to enter

1870
01:30:31,893 --> 01:30:33,532
Speaker 14: a message and she said, I'll get my uncle to

1871
01:30:33,572 --> 01:30:35,772
Speaker 14: give you a ring. Will He rang me that night,

1872
01:30:36,452 --> 01:30:41,532
Speaker 14: and yeah, we were in contact with them straight away,

1873
01:30:41,732 --> 01:30:44,852
Speaker 14: and just incredible. There's quite a few really strange things

1874
01:30:45,412 --> 01:30:48,692
Speaker 14: and normally sort of come up that are so comming

1875
01:30:48,772 --> 01:30:51,932
Speaker 14: through the family, Like my son's name is the same

1876
01:30:52,013 --> 01:30:55,412
Speaker 14: name that's been taken through the family that we didn't

1877
01:30:55,452 --> 01:30:57,812
Speaker 14: even know existed. Wow, So do.

1878
01:30:57,893 --> 01:31:01,253
Speaker 3: They do they connect you up? With your potential family

1879
01:31:01,293 --> 01:31:03,093
Speaker 3: members or you've got to do that digging so you

1880
01:31:03,133 --> 01:31:05,133
Speaker 3: get the information back and then you can do a

1881
01:31:05,133 --> 01:31:06,892
Speaker 3: bit more digging and go from there.

1882
01:31:07,053 --> 01:31:09,532
Speaker 14: Well you get you get school was so people will

1883
01:31:09,532 --> 01:31:11,612
Speaker 14: come up that they're a match with you, that they'll

1884
01:31:11,612 --> 01:31:17,093
Speaker 14: be scored. So with my potential third cousin, which turned

1885
01:31:17,093 --> 01:31:19,932
Speaker 14: out to be a first cousin, the score was about

1886
01:31:19,973 --> 01:31:25,053
Speaker 14: one hundred and eighty. But my on my mother's side,

1887
01:31:25,053 --> 01:31:27,372
Speaker 14: I had a score with her sister who had a

1888
01:31:27,412 --> 01:31:30,812
Speaker 14: DNA test before she died, and it was about six fifty.

1889
01:31:31,372 --> 01:31:34,293
Speaker 14: So and she was my auntie, so I kind of thought, oh, well, yeah,

1890
01:31:34,333 --> 01:31:36,333
Speaker 14: maybe she is my third cousin. But then when I

1891
01:31:36,372 --> 01:31:39,333
Speaker 14: locked into it, because we've only got one grandparent in common,

1892
01:31:40,173 --> 01:31:43,133
Speaker 14: the score was very low because there's not the same

1893
01:31:44,173 --> 01:31:48,133
Speaker 14: the DNA's dire looted. But yeah, she was definitely my

1894
01:31:48,173 --> 01:31:52,732
Speaker 14: first cousin. So and she I don't know. I've never

1895
01:31:52,853 --> 01:31:55,253
Speaker 14: been able to really talk to her much because she

1896
01:31:55,293 --> 01:31:58,052
Speaker 14: lives in Perth, but I don't know what her motivation

1897
01:31:58,293 --> 01:32:01,892
Speaker 14: was for doing the DNA test. But yeah, I've spent

1898
01:32:01,973 --> 01:32:04,372
Speaker 14: quite a bit of time with one of dad's brothers

1899
01:32:04,412 --> 01:32:07,293
Speaker 14: and they've all called in to see them, and really

1900
01:32:07,333 --> 01:32:11,772
Speaker 14: lovely people, just thrilled about it, but really bemused about

1901
01:32:11,772 --> 01:32:15,932
Speaker 14: what happened, how they kept it a secret, and why

1902
01:32:15,973 --> 01:32:19,772
Speaker 14: they kept it a secret. And yeah, because there's quite

1903
01:32:19,772 --> 01:32:23,412
Speaker 14: a bit older than his I think his one of

1904
01:32:23,412 --> 01:32:27,213
Speaker 14: his brothers might be in his late seventies, but yeah,

1905
01:32:27,293 --> 01:32:30,093
Speaker 14: dad's turning nineties this week, so he's a good ten

1906
01:32:30,173 --> 01:32:34,412
Speaker 14: years older than them. But yeh know, it's very exciting.

1907
01:32:34,933 --> 01:32:36,972
Speaker 2: To get my head around it and part of my ignorance.

1908
01:32:37,053 --> 01:32:40,333
Speaker 2: So do you both sides have to be in the

1909
01:32:40,372 --> 01:32:43,572
Speaker 2: system for the match to come up? Do they both

1910
01:32:43,612 --> 01:32:44,732
Speaker 2: have to have gone to the same.

1911
01:32:44,492 --> 01:32:47,492
Speaker 14: Company, so you just need one other? Yeah, I guess

1912
01:32:47,973 --> 01:32:50,093
Speaker 14: with the DNA you have to have had it done

1913
01:32:50,173 --> 01:32:52,692
Speaker 14: through the ancestry to be on their system and they

1914
01:32:53,173 --> 01:32:55,852
Speaker 14: so it'll pop up with someone who has a match

1915
01:32:56,133 --> 01:32:58,253
Speaker 14: with my DNA, so they've got some of my DNA,

1916
01:32:59,213 --> 01:33:01,612
Speaker 14: and it'll give you a score on how close that matches,

1917
01:33:01,772 --> 01:33:03,452
Speaker 14: so you get a bit of an idea of how

1918
01:33:03,492 --> 01:33:06,652
Speaker 14: closely related they are. And it's really up to you

1919
01:33:06,692 --> 01:33:09,013
Speaker 14: can send them a message on the portal, so you

1920
01:33:09,053 --> 01:33:12,412
Speaker 14: can still be not completely anonymous, but it can still

1921
01:33:12,452 --> 01:33:15,572
Speaker 14: be removed from being harassed or anything like that. It's

1922
01:33:15,652 --> 01:33:18,973
Speaker 14: quite it's quite a sort of a gentle procedure. The

1923
01:33:19,053 --> 01:33:20,812
Speaker 14: other thing that they do is they give you a

1924
01:33:20,853 --> 01:33:26,253
Speaker 14: score on your own ancestry and where your blood lines

1925
01:33:26,333 --> 01:33:29,732
Speaker 14: come from. So it tells you told me how much

1926
01:33:29,772 --> 01:33:32,293
Speaker 14: Scottish blood I had, how much Swedish blood I had,

1927
01:33:32,372 --> 01:33:36,133
Speaker 14: and how much Eastern European blood, and so it gives

1928
01:33:36,173 --> 01:33:39,412
Speaker 14: you out of one hundred, it gives you your percentages,

1929
01:33:40,013 --> 01:33:43,572
Speaker 14: and as they improve the technology, they will change those

1930
01:33:43,612 --> 01:33:47,692
Speaker 14: percentages as time goes on because they'll refine it. So

1931
01:33:47,812 --> 01:33:50,253
Speaker 14: it is a really good service. But I can tell

1932
01:33:50,293 --> 01:33:51,612
Speaker 14: you what, there'll be a lot of people that will

1933
01:33:51,652 --> 01:33:52,612
Speaker 14: be shaking.

1934
01:33:54,253 --> 01:33:55,372
Speaker 18: A lot of secrets out there.

1935
01:33:57,532 --> 01:34:00,012
Speaker 2: And thank you so much for sharing with us, Sharon.

1936
01:34:00,213 --> 01:34:03,052
Speaker 2: But just one last question. How long ago did this happen?

1937
01:34:03,173 --> 01:34:06,333
Speaker 2: So you say that your dad's turning ninety this week,

1938
01:34:06,372 --> 01:34:06,612
Speaker 2: it's his.

1939
01:34:06,652 --> 01:34:10,612
Speaker 14: Birthday, My teaste about four or five years ago. But

1940
01:34:11,013 --> 01:34:14,652
Speaker 14: it was about probably roughly two years ago that we

1941
01:34:14,732 --> 01:34:19,412
Speaker 14: discovered that he had brothers that lived not fast from him,

1942
01:34:19,812 --> 01:34:22,173
Speaker 14: and that was really neat and so we sort of

1943
01:34:22,213 --> 01:34:24,012
Speaker 14: tried to accelerate it as much as we could because

1944
01:34:24,053 --> 01:34:27,293
Speaker 14: Dad was getting older and we wanted Dad to understand

1945
01:34:27,452 --> 01:34:31,812
Speaker 14: who they were, which he still does. He's still able

1946
01:34:31,853 --> 01:34:34,532
Speaker 14: to converse with them and talk about things, and they've

1947
01:34:34,572 --> 01:34:38,293
Speaker 14: been able to tell him things about his father, which

1948
01:34:38,372 --> 01:34:40,333
Speaker 14: I think was something that I see to him, did

1949
01:34:40,372 --> 01:34:43,692
Speaker 14: you ever think about you know your father or you

1950
01:34:43,692 --> 01:34:46,133
Speaker 14: know who it was, and did you ever think you

1951
01:34:46,213 --> 01:34:48,133
Speaker 14: might want to know more about him? And he said,

1952
01:34:48,213 --> 01:34:50,412
Speaker 14: I used to think about it, but we used to.

1953
01:34:50,452 --> 01:34:52,492
Speaker 14: I just used to push it aside because I didn't

1954
01:34:52,492 --> 01:34:55,772
Speaker 14: think it would ever happen. So that's really nice. And

1955
01:34:55,812 --> 01:34:58,093
Speaker 14: he keeps saying, oh, you have no idea what you've done.

1956
01:34:58,133 --> 01:35:01,412
Speaker 14: It's just you know, it's just incredible. But though we

1957
01:35:01,732 --> 01:35:03,812
Speaker 14: did a bit of a pilgrimage down south, my husband

1958
01:35:03,853 --> 01:35:06,452
Speaker 14: and I last year. We discovered that actually some really

1959
01:35:06,492 --> 01:35:08,972
Speaker 14: good friends of ours are actually related to it for hell,

1960
01:35:11,333 --> 01:35:14,932
Speaker 14: through this distant relation. But we've got a pilgrimage down

1961
01:35:15,013 --> 01:35:18,773
Speaker 14: south and found the gravestones of my grandparents, great grandparents

1962
01:35:18,812 --> 01:35:21,852
Speaker 14: and great great grandparents, so that was really interesting and

1963
01:35:22,133 --> 01:35:23,852
Speaker 14: photos and I was able to go back and go

1964
01:35:23,933 --> 01:35:26,532
Speaker 14: through it with dead and show them, you know, the

1965
01:35:26,572 --> 01:35:28,612
Speaker 14: headstones with all the names and there on. It so

1966
01:35:28,933 --> 01:35:31,852
Speaker 14: that was really nice. So yeah, it's it's a bit

1967
01:35:31,853 --> 01:35:32,412
Speaker 14: of closure.

1968
01:35:32,612 --> 01:35:34,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, good on you, Sharon, thanks for telling

1969
01:35:34,652 --> 01:35:35,173
Speaker 2: us all that.

1970
01:35:35,452 --> 01:35:38,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, and gift for a dad at ninety as well.

1971
01:35:38,173 --> 01:35:39,133
Speaker 3: It wasn't a little bit before.

1972
01:35:39,133 --> 01:35:43,492
Speaker 2: That isn't interesting how quickly we forget So you know,

1973
01:35:43,572 --> 01:35:45,372
Speaker 2: you know your grandparents, but how many people know their

1974
01:35:45,372 --> 01:35:46,093
Speaker 2: great grandparents?

1975
01:35:46,173 --> 01:35:46,333
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1976
01:35:46,412 --> 01:35:48,213
Speaker 2: And then how many people know anything at all about

1977
01:35:48,213 --> 01:35:51,813
Speaker 2: their great great grandparents? And yet they're they're so significant,

1978
01:35:51,812 --> 01:35:55,013
Speaker 2: their decisions that they made in life are so you know,

1979
01:35:55,213 --> 01:35:58,933
Speaker 2: determine where you are and what you're like, and you

1980
01:35:58,973 --> 01:36:02,173
Speaker 2: know what your what your family's got up to. But

1981
01:36:02,253 --> 01:36:04,412
Speaker 2: we just great great grandparents, you wouldn't know.

1982
01:36:04,532 --> 01:36:06,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, it spot on. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

1983
01:36:06,973 --> 01:36:09,213
Speaker 3: eighty is the number of called more of your stories

1984
01:36:09,293 --> 01:36:11,533
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is twenty seven past.

1985
01:36:11,213 --> 01:36:19,253
Speaker 1: Three Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1986
01:36:19,253 --> 01:36:21,372
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on US Talks EDB.

1987
01:36:22,612 --> 01:36:24,933
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB and we're talking about the likes of

1988
01:36:24,973 --> 01:36:27,572
Speaker 3: ancestry dot com twenty three and me it's on the

1989
01:36:27,612 --> 01:36:30,652
Speaker 3: back of twenty three and me unfortunately going bankrupt. But

1990
01:36:30,933 --> 01:36:33,532
Speaker 3: for the people listening out there who have sent in

1991
01:36:33,572 --> 01:36:37,213
Speaker 3: their DNA. There are some incredible stories coming out when

1992
01:36:37,893 --> 01:36:39,572
Speaker 3: you were given a bit of a heads up on

1993
01:36:39,612 --> 01:36:42,133
Speaker 3: your lineage and who family members could have been.

1994
01:36:42,452 --> 01:36:44,333
Speaker 2: Yes, so we're talking about this come up because twenty

1995
01:36:44,333 --> 01:36:47,492
Speaker 2: three and me is in liquidation. Guys, I'd be nervous

1996
01:36:47,492 --> 01:36:49,892
Speaker 2: having my DNA out there with no idea who can

1997
01:36:49,893 --> 01:36:51,772
Speaker 2: access at that's from Craig because that's kind of the

1998
01:36:51,812 --> 01:36:54,572
Speaker 2: concerns because a company could buy it. But if you

1999
01:36:54,652 --> 01:36:56,652
Speaker 2: delete your twenty three and me account, the company will

2000
01:36:56,692 --> 01:36:59,772
Speaker 2: destroy all personal data associated with you, including genetic data.

2001
01:37:00,133 --> 01:37:02,732
Speaker 2: You can download your raw genetic data from the company's

2002
01:37:02,732 --> 01:37:05,852
Speaker 2: website beforehand. You can separately ask for your sample to

2003
01:37:05,893 --> 01:37:08,293
Speaker 2: be deleted alongside with the leading your account or separate.

2004
01:37:08,973 --> 01:37:11,452
Speaker 2: Privacy advocates have called for users to let their data

2005
01:37:11,492 --> 01:37:14,972
Speaker 2: amid the companies falling sheer pass and growing speculation about

2006
01:37:14,973 --> 01:37:19,412
Speaker 2: its future. And you know there's some interest from you know,

2007
01:37:19,412 --> 01:37:22,452
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies to buy all that information that they have

2008
01:37:22,612 --> 01:37:24,492
Speaker 2: at twenty three and me. And if you're wondering why

2009
01:37:24,532 --> 01:37:26,692
Speaker 2: that company was because of this ancestry is another company,

2010
01:37:26,732 --> 01:37:28,452
Speaker 2: but you're wondering why that country is called company is

2011
01:37:28,452 --> 01:37:31,213
Speaker 2: called twenty three in me. It's because of the twenty

2012
01:37:31,213 --> 01:37:34,772
Speaker 2: three peers of chromosomes in a human cell, So twenty

2013
01:37:34,812 --> 01:37:35,253
Speaker 2: three in me.

2014
01:37:35,412 --> 01:37:38,013
Speaker 3: That makes sense. I on one hundred and eighty. Ten

2015
01:37:38,053 --> 01:37:39,532
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. We're going to get

2016
01:37:39,572 --> 01:37:41,652
Speaker 3: to some calls shortly, but we're a bit late for

2017
01:37:41,652 --> 01:37:43,692
Speaker 3: the headlines. But a couple of tips to the headlines, guys.

2018
01:37:43,853 --> 01:37:45,412
Speaker 3: I had a call one night from a guy claiming

2019
01:37:45,452 --> 01:37:47,612
Speaker 3: to be my cousin, trying to find out who his

2020
01:37:47,692 --> 01:37:50,133
Speaker 3: dad was. He never knew his dad wasn't his dad

2021
01:37:50,213 --> 01:37:53,093
Speaker 3: until he did this test. I couldn't tell him his

2022
01:37:54,013 --> 01:37:57,852
Speaker 3: mum and his father met after a night out. The

2023
01:37:57,893 --> 01:38:03,133
Speaker 3: guy thought his adopted dad was his biological dad all

2024
01:38:03,293 --> 01:38:07,572
Speaker 3: his life. Heartbreaking but important information to learn later on.

2025
01:38:08,652 --> 01:38:10,732
Speaker 3: Is it well, mate, Well, some.

2026
01:38:10,732 --> 01:38:13,093
Speaker 2: People don't, because that's that's the other question. Do you

2027
01:38:13,133 --> 01:38:15,772
Speaker 2: need to know? It's great if you reconnect with people,

2028
01:38:16,572 --> 01:38:20,093
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Is it to something's just something's

2029
01:38:20,173 --> 01:38:23,213
Speaker 2: just best left? I don't know.

2030
01:38:23,333 --> 01:38:26,452
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, I don't know either. But if you

2031
01:38:26,532 --> 01:38:29,053
Speaker 3: do love to hear from you. It is twenty nine

2032
01:38:29,093 --> 01:38:29,572
Speaker 3: to four.

2033
01:38:31,652 --> 01:38:35,293
Speaker 12: You talk, said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2034
01:38:35,372 --> 01:38:39,252
Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Emergency Management Agency

2035
01:38:39,333 --> 01:38:42,892
Speaker 12: is assessing whether a six point seven magnitude earthquake west

2036
01:38:42,893 --> 01:38:47,173
Speaker 12: of Stuart Island thirty three kilometers deep has created a

2037
01:38:47,213 --> 01:38:52,052
Speaker 12: tsunami risk. It says no land threat is expected. Almost

2038
01:38:52,093 --> 01:38:57,133
Speaker 12: five thousand people reported felling the shake. Fresh explosive activity

2039
01:38:57,173 --> 01:39:01,093
Speaker 12: has been recorded at FACRDI, White Island, with evidence ballistic

2040
01:39:01,253 --> 01:39:04,013
Speaker 12: blocks have been sent. More than half a kilometer the

2041
01:39:04,093 --> 01:39:09,133
Speaker 12: nearby coast remains unaffected. Wellington Police have declared Demand's death

2042
01:39:09,173 --> 01:39:13,133
Speaker 12: after being found injured in Miramar last week, is a homicide.

2043
01:39:13,492 --> 01:39:17,932
Speaker 12: Abdul Nabazadar was discovered as police search the streets after

2044
01:39:18,013 --> 01:39:21,852
Speaker 12: a nearby home invasion. The government's amount to open a

2045
01:39:21,893 --> 01:39:25,692
Speaker 12: new funding round for the Proceeds of Crime Fund until

2046
01:39:25,772 --> 01:39:29,532
Speaker 12: May for money available from July. They're looking for targeted

2047
01:39:29,572 --> 01:39:35,572
Speaker 12: initiatives for preventing crime escalating What works for low back pain,

2048
01:39:36,093 --> 01:39:38,772
Speaker 12: well not much. A new study says. You can read

2049
01:39:38,812 --> 01:39:41,213
Speaker 12: more at z at Herald Premium. Now back to Matti

2050
01:39:41,333 --> 01:39:42,292
Speaker 12: than Tyler Adams.

2051
01:39:42,372 --> 01:39:45,053
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we're asking what

2052
01:39:45,133 --> 01:39:48,333
Speaker 3: have you found out via your DNA on the back

2053
01:39:48,412 --> 01:39:51,892
Speaker 3: of twenty three in me declaring bankruptcy. But there is

2054
01:39:52,652 --> 01:39:55,612
Speaker 3: half a dozen or so major DNA companies out there

2055
01:39:55,732 --> 01:39:58,492
Speaker 3: like ancestry dot Com, and a lot of people have

2056
01:39:58,612 --> 01:40:01,652
Speaker 3: found out some pretty incredible things about their lineage.

2057
01:40:02,173 --> 01:40:04,213
Speaker 2: If you found out about your lineage at twenty three

2058
01:40:04,293 --> 01:40:05,932
Speaker 2: in me, you might want to get in there and

2059
01:40:06,412 --> 01:40:09,532
Speaker 2: delete it, yeah, before they sell it off to some

2060
01:40:09,532 --> 01:40:12,412
Speaker 2: pharmaceutic coming. And if you're in my case, you wouldn't care.

2061
01:40:12,532 --> 01:40:15,213
Speaker 3: I mean, your DNA's everywhere. What does it matter?

2062
01:40:15,452 --> 01:40:17,852
Speaker 2: What does it matter? Although I might share a story

2063
01:40:17,853 --> 01:40:20,813
Speaker 2: about sort of a slightly dodgy part of my ancestry

2064
01:40:20,812 --> 01:40:22,253
Speaker 2: that was found out when we did a bit of

2065
01:40:22,253 --> 01:40:26,452
Speaker 2: a DNA test that shock everything to the core.

2066
01:40:26,572 --> 01:40:29,333
Speaker 3: Oh this is going to be good, Phil. How are

2067
01:40:29,333 --> 01:40:30,092
Speaker 3: you this afternoon?

2068
01:40:31,652 --> 01:40:33,213
Speaker 5: Not too bad things? Tyler? Are you?

2069
01:40:33,372 --> 01:40:35,052
Speaker 3: I'm good mate? Nice to chat as always?

2070
01:40:35,893 --> 01:40:38,133
Speaker 18: Oh yes, yes, yes, good one? You remember me?

2071
01:40:39,772 --> 01:40:42,253
Speaker 3: Yep? Absolutely mate? Now are you did you do one

2072
01:40:42,253 --> 01:40:44,613
Speaker 3: of these tests? Did you?

2073
01:40:44,612 --> 01:40:44,812
Speaker 10: No?

2074
01:40:44,893 --> 01:40:47,213
Speaker 18: But before I get on to the points, I'll quickly

2075
01:40:47,293 --> 01:40:49,772
Speaker 18: say that I've got a little amusing story to end

2076
01:40:49,772 --> 01:40:51,492
Speaker 18: it with as well, which I think you boys are like.

2077
01:40:51,572 --> 01:40:55,852
Speaker 18: But I yeah, some good stories coming through some good

2078
01:40:55,893 --> 01:40:58,293
Speaker 18: size of it, and I can understand also the fellow

2079
01:40:58,293 --> 01:41:02,012
Speaker 18: that said that it was mixed feelings for the person

2080
01:41:02,652 --> 01:41:04,532
Speaker 18: because he'd missed and out sort of thing on what

2081
01:41:04,612 --> 01:41:06,692
Speaker 18: he missed out and too, as well as the joy

2082
01:41:06,732 --> 01:41:11,933
Speaker 18: of discovering the new relatives and things like that. I

2083
01:41:11,933 --> 01:41:14,333
Speaker 18: don't think i'd had much problem like you, Tyler for

2084
01:41:14,452 --> 01:41:16,412
Speaker 18: information with sharp, because I think you don't have to

2085
01:41:16,452 --> 01:41:18,892
Speaker 18: worry if you've done something bad or you're a criminal,

2086
01:41:18,973 --> 01:41:22,572
Speaker 18: or possibly somebody mentioned you. I don't know, but I

2087
01:41:22,572 --> 01:41:24,972
Speaker 18: think i'd be a cantle. But I have got a kit.

2088
01:41:25,053 --> 01:41:27,173
Speaker 18: I have got an ancestry kit that's been sitting at

2089
01:41:27,213 --> 01:41:29,293
Speaker 18: home here for about three years that I haven't done

2090
01:41:29,333 --> 01:41:31,973
Speaker 18: anything with you, but I do plan to because I

2091
01:41:32,213 --> 01:41:36,333
Speaker 18: want to sort of look it up for my lineage.

2092
01:41:36,893 --> 01:41:39,732
Speaker 18: That's the right word, because my grandfather was from Northern

2093
01:41:39,772 --> 01:41:44,253
Speaker 18: Ireland and my grandmother was from Glasgow. But I've got

2094
01:41:44,293 --> 01:41:47,013
Speaker 18: what I've always assumed as an English name, and I

2095
01:41:47,053 --> 01:41:50,213
Speaker 18: don't know much about my grandfather and my grandmother's history,

2096
01:41:50,213 --> 01:41:52,093
Speaker 18: so I don't know much about where our family came

2097
01:41:52,093 --> 01:41:54,692
Speaker 18: from or how we came to come to New Zealand.

2098
01:41:55,053 --> 01:41:58,412
Speaker 18: So I want to do it for that, but I'm

2099
01:41:58,412 --> 01:42:00,452
Speaker 18: not worried about what I find out. If there's a

2100
01:42:00,452 --> 01:42:03,213
Speaker 18: bit of skulldugery, I'm looking forward to Matt's story. You know,

2101
01:42:03,452 --> 01:42:06,132
Speaker 18: there's some skullduggery or some criminals in there or whatever.

2102
01:42:06,293 --> 01:42:09,053
Speaker 3: I'm not judging it's going to be good.

2103
01:42:09,133 --> 01:42:12,013
Speaker 18: Yeah, so the wee story is, I'll quickly get the

2104
01:42:12,013 --> 01:42:13,933
Speaker 18: wee story. Like I've got a Scottish mate who was

2105
01:42:13,933 --> 01:42:16,652
Speaker 18: born in Scotland and he married an English girl who

2106
01:42:16,772 --> 01:42:20,093
Speaker 18: was born in Liverpool, and they sent away through the

2107
01:42:20,133 --> 01:42:22,532
Speaker 18: ancestry dot Com to get the testing done and when

2108
01:42:22,572 --> 01:42:25,612
Speaker 18: the results came back, and always have him warn about this,

2109
01:42:26,213 --> 01:42:28,293
Speaker 18: the results came back and it turned out that his

2110
01:42:28,372 --> 01:42:32,253
Speaker 18: English wife had more Scottish DNA and her background than

2111
01:42:32,253 --> 01:42:36,892
Speaker 18: he did, and he was born in Scotland. Yeah, so

2112
01:42:36,973 --> 01:42:38,973
Speaker 18: I always have mine about that. I always say, well

2113
01:42:39,013 --> 01:42:41,492
Speaker 18: you were more for you were more bloody English than you.

2114
01:42:42,412 --> 01:42:45,973
Speaker 2: That'll be hard for a scott to face. Yeah, the

2115
01:42:46,173 --> 01:42:49,133
Speaker 2: rabbit hatred of the English, the scottsfield.

2116
01:42:50,253 --> 01:42:52,333
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, that's what I always have want. But he's

2117
01:42:52,333 --> 01:42:54,652
Speaker 18: good though, he laughs about it. We played golf and

2118
01:42:54,732 --> 01:42:56,812
Speaker 18: he sees the funny sory. But yeah, I like having

2119
01:42:56,812 --> 01:42:58,932
Speaker 18: and mine about that William Wallace one all that sort

2120
01:42:58,973 --> 01:42:59,253
Speaker 18: of thing.

2121
01:43:00,093 --> 01:43:02,972
Speaker 3: You're a good man film. Thank you very much. Uh

2122
01:43:03,293 --> 01:43:05,692
Speaker 3: quick couple of tix here, guys. I did ancestry. It

2123
01:43:05,732 --> 01:43:08,253
Speaker 3: was one hundred percent acurate to what my mum had said.

2124
01:43:08,933 --> 01:43:13,653
Speaker 3: I then went and saw my great great grandmother's headstone

2125
01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:19,133
Speaker 3: grave in Simon Street. She passed away in eighteen fifty seven.

2126
01:43:19,253 --> 01:43:21,612
Speaker 3: Then I went to Jersey Island in Saint Hellier and

2127
01:43:21,652 --> 01:43:23,812
Speaker 3: was able to look at the eighteen fifty six census

2128
01:43:24,173 --> 01:43:27,652
Speaker 3: and saw who her parents were married to, that they

2129
01:43:27,652 --> 01:43:30,652
Speaker 3: were farmers, and where they lived, and where parents were

2130
01:43:30,692 --> 01:43:34,253
Speaker 3: married in Saint Clement Parish, Jersey Island, and all family

2131
01:43:34,293 --> 01:43:36,092
Speaker 3: graves on both sides of the family.

2132
01:43:36,093 --> 01:43:38,532
Speaker 2: What a journey. Anita found it all out.

2133
01:43:38,652 --> 01:43:39,412
Speaker 3: Great story.

2134
01:43:39,492 --> 01:43:42,572
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm in convenience. Simon Street graveyard. I will pass

2135
01:43:42,612 --> 01:43:45,612
Speaker 2: that every day. I'll stop it and say, loo to

2136
01:43:45,692 --> 01:43:49,173
Speaker 2: your what is it headstone of your great great grandmother's headstone. Yeah,

2137
01:43:49,812 --> 01:43:51,572
Speaker 2: text through the name, and I'll go and have a

2138
01:43:51,612 --> 01:43:53,093
Speaker 2: flower at it my way home.

2139
01:43:53,133 --> 01:43:54,612
Speaker 3: Well as I was reading that, when and then I

2140
01:43:54,652 --> 01:43:57,333
Speaker 3: went and saw my great great grandmother. I had in

2141
01:43:57,333 --> 01:43:59,572
Speaker 3: my head that her great great great grandmother was still alive.

2142
01:43:59,652 --> 01:44:01,612
Speaker 3: Thought she's doing well, very well.

2143
01:44:02,253 --> 01:44:03,333
Speaker 2: Great story. Thanks Anita.

2144
01:44:03,692 --> 01:44:06,772
Speaker 3: Oh e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

2145
01:44:06,812 --> 01:44:11,452
Speaker 3: to call. We're back very shortly. It is twenty wonder.

2146
01:44:11,093 --> 01:44:16,173
Speaker 1: Four Mattie Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

2147
01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:20,052
Speaker 1: on matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety

2148
01:44:20,213 --> 01:44:21,612
Speaker 1: attention to detail.

2149
01:44:21,333 --> 01:44:23,293
Speaker 4: And a commitment to company news talks.

2150
01:44:23,333 --> 01:44:26,572
Speaker 3: The'd be afternoon eighteen to four, and we've been talking

2151
01:44:26,612 --> 01:44:29,053
Speaker 3: about what have you found out after doing one of

2152
01:44:29,093 --> 01:44:31,972
Speaker 3: these ancestry type teats on the back of twenty three

2153
01:44:32,133 --> 01:44:34,452
Speaker 3: and me it's now bankrupt. So if you've got your

2154
01:44:34,572 --> 01:44:37,253
Speaker 3: DNA with that particular company, you might want to do

2155
01:44:37,293 --> 01:44:37,932
Speaker 3: something about it.

2156
01:44:38,053 --> 01:44:39,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might, you might not care.

2157
01:44:39,452 --> 01:44:39,652
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2158
01:44:39,812 --> 01:44:41,493
Speaker 2: I don't think you're ever going to do a situation

2159
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Speaker 2: where they approach you and you know, directly market to you.

2160
01:44:46,253 --> 01:44:50,812
Speaker 2: That would be terrible if they sold the they sold

2161
01:44:50,893 --> 01:44:53,372
Speaker 2: the DNA, and then suddenly you get marketed by a

2162
01:44:53,372 --> 01:44:55,812
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical company that's found out exactly what's wrong with you.

2163
01:44:55,933 --> 01:44:58,492
Speaker 3: That's a Black Marie episode that could happen.

2164
01:44:58,973 --> 01:45:00,852
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be too bad if they gave you a

2165
01:45:00,893 --> 01:45:03,772
Speaker 2: ring and see it. Actually you've got anyone, it doesn't matter. Hey,

2166
01:45:03,772 --> 01:45:06,133
Speaker 2: So I just a little story from my family, So

2167
01:45:06,133 --> 01:45:08,452
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell too many details. But it was

2168
01:45:08,452 --> 01:45:10,253
Speaker 2: a bit of an investigation into DNA, and for the

2169
01:45:10,253 --> 01:45:13,652
Speaker 2: longest time we had always been told that we were French,

2170
01:45:13,732 --> 01:45:17,093
Speaker 2: part French in our ancestry. Nice, and I thought that

2171
01:45:17,213 --> 01:45:19,973
Speaker 2: explained because I've got reasonably olive skin. I'd always go

2172
01:45:20,013 --> 01:45:21,812
Speaker 2: around going, oh, but would say, why have you got

2173
01:45:21,812 --> 01:45:24,253
Speaker 2: such Other white people say why have you got such

2174
01:45:24,333 --> 01:45:26,852
Speaker 2: beautiful olive skin. A lot of ladies would say that

2175
01:45:26,853 --> 01:45:30,692
Speaker 2: to me. Beautiful skin, that'd say, and I'd say, well,

2176
01:45:30,772 --> 01:45:33,293
Speaker 2: it's Mediterranean. You know, we're probably from the French River

2177
01:45:33,333 --> 01:45:37,692
Speaker 2: era or something, so yeah, yeah, Mediterranean coast. But then

2178
01:45:37,772 --> 01:45:39,972
Speaker 2: what happened when there was an investigation. It turned out

2179
01:45:40,013 --> 01:45:45,412
Speaker 2: that I'm Irish and the Irish ancestors had come to

2180
01:45:45,452 --> 01:45:48,052
Speaker 2: New Zealand and when they arrived just grabbed a French

2181
01:45:48,133 --> 01:45:51,653
Speaker 2: name because it seemed class here and they wanted to

2182
01:45:51,692 --> 01:45:54,133
Speaker 2: sell some furniture. So you could do that, just drive

2183
01:45:54,133 --> 01:45:56,852
Speaker 2: in New Zealand claim that your French start selling furniture

2184
01:45:56,893 --> 01:45:59,053
Speaker 2: did very well, and so there was no French in

2185
01:45:59,133 --> 01:46:01,093
Speaker 2: there at all. It was just it was just some

2186
01:46:01,612 --> 01:46:03,492
Speaker 2: clever Irish people back in the day.

2187
01:46:03,532 --> 01:46:04,612
Speaker 3: Your ancestors were clever.

2188
01:46:04,692 --> 01:46:04,812
Speaker 5: Man.

2189
01:46:04,893 --> 01:46:08,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't still doesn't explain when I get my.

2190
01:46:08,572 --> 01:46:11,572
Speaker 3: You look at a lovely, my beautiful skinful that beef

2191
01:46:11,652 --> 01:46:15,092
Speaker 3: yellow Ronda, how are you this afternoon?

2192
01:46:16,412 --> 01:46:19,812
Speaker 19: Really good things. I've got a story to tell. First

2193
01:46:19,853 --> 01:46:23,053
Speaker 19: of all, I just want to say that I thoroughly

2194
01:46:23,452 --> 01:46:30,812
Speaker 19: enjoy listen to you both every days.

2195
01:46:32,612 --> 01:46:33,972
Speaker 2: Thank you, you're doing a good job.

2196
01:46:35,213 --> 01:46:40,412
Speaker 19: Yeah. When I was very small, my mother used to

2197
01:46:40,452 --> 01:46:43,733
Speaker 19: say to me, you look Mongolian because I got two brothers.

2198
01:46:43,893 --> 01:46:46,852
Speaker 19: They were born with blonde hair and blue eyes. I

2199
01:46:46,893 --> 01:46:51,293
Speaker 19: was born with dark eyes and dark here and mom

2200
01:46:51,372 --> 01:46:54,572
Speaker 19: used to always say, you look like a Mongolian child,

2201
01:46:54,812 --> 01:46:59,132
Speaker 19: you know, But she didn't know anything else about it. Anyhow.

2202
01:46:59,133 --> 01:47:02,132
Speaker 19: A couple of years ago decided to have a DNA

2203
01:47:02,372 --> 01:47:10,093
Speaker 19: tist and what they discovered was there, I've got ancestries

2204
01:47:10,333 --> 01:47:15,452
Speaker 19: in Northern Ireland and belt person in Scotland and England

2205
01:47:15,652 --> 01:47:21,173
Speaker 19: and Wales. At one point I percent it from Mongolia,

2206
01:47:22,213 --> 01:47:26,452
Speaker 19: right wow, And I thought, wow, oh my gosh, my mother,

2207
01:47:26,772 --> 01:47:29,933
Speaker 19: you tell me I look like a Mongolian. But I

2208
01:47:30,053 --> 01:47:32,013
Speaker 19: never knew anything about it.

2209
01:47:32,973 --> 01:47:35,293
Speaker 2: Probably related to Gingis Khan.

2210
01:47:36,532 --> 01:47:40,612
Speaker 19: Oh, I don't know. Somewhere along the line, somebody's been

2211
01:47:40,732 --> 01:47:42,692
Speaker 19: mugging around.

2212
01:47:42,853 --> 01:47:45,452
Speaker 2: Do you ever find yourself just riding into villages and

2213
01:47:45,452 --> 01:47:48,532
Speaker 2: burning them to the ground and then riding off rondo. Yeah,

2214
01:47:49,412 --> 01:47:55,053
Speaker 2: that comes from you great great great granddad Jingis Khan.

2215
01:47:56,492 --> 01:47:59,852
Speaker 19: Yes, yeah, something like that. You never know, ye Is.

2216
01:48:00,532 --> 01:48:05,333
Speaker 19: My grandfather was a Presbyterian minister in Ireland, and my

2217
01:48:05,452 --> 01:48:11,492
Speaker 19: great grandfather was a farmer, and grandmother was a teacher

2218
01:48:11,933 --> 01:48:16,973
Speaker 19: in Ireland, and and my on my dad's side, they

2219
01:48:17,013 --> 01:48:20,852
Speaker 19: were home guards, you know, like looking out, you know,

2220
01:48:21,612 --> 01:48:23,812
Speaker 19: but like police, right, So.

2221
01:48:23,732 --> 01:48:24,892
Speaker 3: What did the homeguard do?

2222
01:48:25,812 --> 01:48:27,293
Speaker 2: Were they like police before the bobbies?

2223
01:48:28,973 --> 01:48:29,213
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2224
01:48:29,372 --> 01:48:35,652
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah they were, and look how yeah yeah yeah,

2225
01:48:35,732 --> 01:48:39,652
Speaker 19: so they did that and then my my uncles followed

2226
01:48:39,732 --> 01:48:43,972
Speaker 19: soon and became a policeman. So interesting. But my dad

2227
01:48:44,213 --> 01:48:47,173
Speaker 19: was a rebo and just started to be a marine engineer,

2228
01:48:47,452 --> 01:48:51,412
Speaker 19: so that diverted that idea. But I just thought i'd

2229
01:48:51,452 --> 01:48:52,733
Speaker 19: see that story.

2230
01:48:52,973 --> 01:48:56,932
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that, and copped its great

2231
01:48:56,933 --> 01:49:00,053
Speaker 2: to talk to an ancestor of Ginghis Khan, A great man.

2232
01:49:00,532 --> 01:49:04,372
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty eight the number call. There's some great

2233
01:49:04,412 --> 01:49:06,412
Speaker 3: teachs coming through on nine to ninety two.

2234
01:49:06,812 --> 01:49:09,732
Speaker 2: This is this is sort of a black mirror type situation.

2235
01:49:10,293 --> 01:49:12,892
Speaker 2: This Texas says, the risk with your DNA is they

2236
01:49:12,933 --> 01:49:16,173
Speaker 2: sell it to medical insurance companies. Then they up or

2237
01:49:16,213 --> 01:49:19,732
Speaker 2: cancel your insurance because the medical risk they decide that

2238
01:49:19,732 --> 01:49:22,093
Speaker 2: your a DNA showed. I mean, there's no suggesting that

2239
01:49:22,093 --> 01:49:24,572
Speaker 2: there could ever happen with twenty three and me and

2240
01:49:24,612 --> 01:49:28,173
Speaker 2: you can get it your DNA deleted and they've said

2241
01:49:28,173 --> 01:49:30,173
Speaker 2: that they will do no direct marketing with it. But

2242
01:49:30,532 --> 01:49:32,372
Speaker 2: that is the ultimate. You suddenly get to ring up

2243
01:49:32,372 --> 01:49:35,093
Speaker 2: and say, hey, your insurance has just gone up. What

2244
01:49:35,093 --> 01:49:37,213
Speaker 2: I had twenty three and me teld us that you've

2245
01:49:37,213 --> 01:49:38,732
Speaker 2: got problems with your DNA.

2246
01:49:38,812 --> 01:49:42,612
Speaker 3: You wouldn't put it past them, Nick, how are you?

2247
01:49:43,772 --> 01:49:44,173
Speaker 5: Yeah? Good?

2248
01:49:44,173 --> 01:49:47,892
Speaker 10: Thanks. It's really interesting topic and one that's very close

2249
01:49:47,933 --> 01:49:50,492
Speaker 10: to my heart. It's sort of been very much interested

2250
01:49:50,532 --> 01:49:55,012
Speaker 10: in ancestry for many, many years and the ancestry dot

2251
01:49:55,013 --> 01:49:57,333
Speaker 10: com has been my go to place as well as

2252
01:49:57,532 --> 01:50:01,293
Speaker 10: social media and as far as my parents are concerned.

2253
01:50:01,333 --> 01:50:05,532
Speaker 10: Pretty easy to sort of go back in time and

2254
01:50:05,612 --> 01:50:09,892
Speaker 10: find relations and similar for my father in law, my

2255
01:50:09,933 --> 01:50:14,213
Speaker 10: mother in law Kiewi mother in law unfortunately more difficult.

2256
01:50:14,612 --> 01:50:17,652
Speaker 10: She was adopted as a baby in nineteen forty one,

2257
01:50:18,253 --> 01:50:22,173
Speaker 10: and while she reconnected with her birth mother in sort

2258
01:50:22,173 --> 01:50:25,293
Speaker 10: of late eighties, she never sort of was able to

2259
01:50:25,293 --> 01:50:28,093
Speaker 10: sort of reconnect with her father, but knew his name,

2260
01:50:28,732 --> 01:50:31,452
Speaker 10: so a little bit of digging sort of managed to

2261
01:50:31,492 --> 01:50:35,812
Speaker 10: sort of find some relations in South Auckland. But I

2262
01:50:35,853 --> 01:50:39,732
Speaker 10: sort of stood back for about three years because it

2263
01:50:39,853 --> 01:50:42,852
Speaker 10: was always sort of a little bit apprehensive about how

2264
01:50:42,893 --> 01:50:45,293
Speaker 10: to make that call or how to make that contact,

2265
01:50:45,893 --> 01:50:49,452
Speaker 10: until we found out that my mother in law was

2266
01:50:49,853 --> 01:50:53,452
Speaker 10: Urmelly Ill and one for her wishes was to see

2267
01:50:53,452 --> 01:50:58,412
Speaker 10: a photograph of her father. So made the call and

2268
01:50:59,293 --> 01:51:02,892
Speaker 10: after a few backwards and forwards, my wife and my

2269
01:51:03,173 --> 01:51:06,452
Speaker 10: mother in law caught up with what transpired to be

2270
01:51:06,652 --> 01:51:11,293
Speaker 10: her half brother and two half sisters. They had some

2271
01:51:11,293 --> 01:51:16,053
Speaker 10: photos ready of her father or their father, which they

2272
01:51:16,133 --> 01:51:21,893
Speaker 10: passed over, so she was delighted. And during that discussion

2273
01:51:24,372 --> 01:51:27,133
Speaker 10: half brother said, oh, and of course you know the

2274
01:51:27,173 --> 01:51:30,972
Speaker 10: family background, to which my mother in law said, no,

2275
01:51:31,013 --> 01:51:34,452
Speaker 10: I'm not sure what you're talking about, and they said, well,

2276
01:51:34,492 --> 01:51:38,253
Speaker 10: we're great great grand I'm never sure how any great

2277
01:51:38,293 --> 01:51:41,253
Speaker 10: it is, but great great grandchildren of potato to fed

2278
01:51:41,333 --> 01:51:44,852
Speaker 10: or fedl so that that was something that sort of

2279
01:51:44,853 --> 01:51:48,692
Speaker 10: blew her mind. But yeah, lot long story shorts. There's

2280
01:51:48,732 --> 01:51:50,692
Speaker 10: sort of heaps of things that we sort of did

2281
01:51:51,173 --> 01:51:53,893
Speaker 10: a DNA check and confirmed that everything was as it

2282
01:51:54,333 --> 01:51:57,852
Speaker 10: as it seemed. And my mother in law passed away

2283
01:51:57,933 --> 01:52:02,812
Speaker 10: unfortunately about eighteen months ago, but having seen her father.

2284
01:52:03,013 --> 01:52:06,213
Speaker 2: So that's really that, mate, that's a really cool story.

2285
01:52:06,333 --> 01:52:09,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beautiful, a beautiful have to give you

2286
01:52:09,053 --> 01:52:09,972
Speaker 3: a mother in law.

2287
01:52:10,973 --> 01:52:14,213
Speaker 10: Yes, and her half brother came to a funeral and

2288
01:52:14,253 --> 01:52:17,612
Speaker 10: wrote a poem and that's sealed the deal.

2289
01:52:17,692 --> 01:52:19,173
Speaker 5: So does be few There.

2290
01:52:19,013 --> 01:52:21,732
Speaker 2: Have been a few few tears at that point. Yes,

2291
01:52:22,652 --> 01:52:27,612
Speaker 2: that would be powerful moment and reading that past. Yeah, well,

2292
01:52:27,612 --> 01:52:29,492
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your calling. Nick, really appreciate it.

2293
01:52:29,492 --> 01:52:30,012
Speaker 2: What a story.

2294
01:52:30,093 --> 01:52:32,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much. Oh one hundred and eighty

2295
01:52:32,893 --> 01:52:35,652
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is ten

2296
01:52:35,732 --> 01:52:37,093
Speaker 3: to four Back in a mow.

2297
01:52:38,412 --> 01:52:41,892
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2298
01:52:42,133 --> 01:52:45,732
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo

2299
01:52:46,053 --> 01:52:49,213
Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort.

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01:52:49,333 --> 01:52:53,573
Speaker 6: News Dog EDB News Dogs EDB Afternoon.

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01:52:53,612 --> 01:52:55,253
Speaker 3: It is seven to four.

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01:52:55,893 --> 01:52:58,892
Speaker 2: Hey boys, the Home Guard were like soldiers who couldn't

2303
01:52:58,893 --> 01:53:01,173
Speaker 2: make the medical grade to fight overseas. They monitor the

2304
01:53:01,173 --> 01:53:04,532
Speaker 2: coastline and protected defensive establishments. And good to know, thank

2305
01:53:04,532 --> 01:53:06,452
Speaker 2: you for real good Jamie.

2306
01:53:06,492 --> 01:53:08,333
Speaker 3: How are you?

2307
01:53:09,333 --> 01:53:09,532
Speaker 20: Yeah?

2308
01:53:09,572 --> 01:53:10,093
Speaker 10: Yeah, good good?

2309
01:53:10,652 --> 01:53:12,812
Speaker 3: And what did you find out through one of these

2310
01:53:12,853 --> 01:53:14,173
Speaker 3: ance history websites?

2311
01:53:15,853 --> 01:53:20,572
Speaker 20: So, I mean it's nothing called did I found out anything?

2312
01:53:21,532 --> 01:53:25,532
Speaker 20: It's more I discovered So it's a bit of backstory.

2313
01:53:26,013 --> 01:53:30,053
Speaker 20: I found out when I was about eighteen that I

2314
01:53:30,293 --> 01:53:34,532
Speaker 20: was the result of some confoolery between my mother and

2315
01:53:35,452 --> 01:53:39,612
Speaker 20: someone down the road. And then about twenty years later,

2316
01:53:39,692 --> 01:53:44,453
Speaker 20: so one late thirties, now did a did an ancestry

2317
01:53:44,452 --> 01:53:48,852
Speaker 20: dot contest and allow and behold, so I had my

2318
01:53:48,973 --> 01:53:54,253
Speaker 20: biological father and that showed up as a as a

2319
01:53:54,452 --> 01:53:58,612
Speaker 20: hundred percent match of being that guy. Yep, and reached out,

2320
01:53:58,732 --> 01:54:02,492
Speaker 20: reached out a little bit and yeah, managed to get

2321
01:54:02,492 --> 01:54:04,892
Speaker 20: a hold of him, get spoken on the phone a

2322
01:54:04,893 --> 01:54:09,452
Speaker 20: few times, and then had a few weeks were actually

2323
01:54:09,933 --> 01:54:11,133
Speaker 20: meeting up for the first time.

2324
01:54:11,253 --> 01:54:14,692
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, how good. How surprised? We see when you

2325
01:54:14,732 --> 01:54:15,333
Speaker 2: first talked to.

2326
01:54:15,372 --> 01:54:20,492
Speaker 20: Him, he was very surprised because he, as far as

2327
01:54:20,492 --> 01:54:21,852
Speaker 20: he knew, I did not exist.

2328
01:54:22,133 --> 01:54:28,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that little trust hadn't created anything, Sagan. Sorry,

2329
01:54:28,572 --> 01:54:31,012
Speaker 2: So he thought that the trust he had or hadn't

2330
01:54:31,013 --> 01:54:32,653
Speaker 2: created anything, but it had created you.

2331
01:54:33,013 --> 01:54:33,693
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2332
01:54:33,733 --> 01:54:36,852
Speaker 20: Wow, Yes, yes he knew I did as a person,

2333
01:54:36,893 --> 01:54:37,892
Speaker 20: but he didn't know why I was his.

2334
01:54:39,053 --> 01:54:40,733
Speaker 2: Right, I see? Wow?

2335
01:54:41,053 --> 01:54:42,893
Speaker 3: And whereabouts are you're going to meet up Jamie? Is

2336
01:54:42,893 --> 01:54:44,293
Speaker 3: it out a pub or what's the plan?

2337
01:54:45,853 --> 01:54:48,293
Speaker 20: I probably should be No, No, we're going to meet

2338
01:54:48,333 --> 01:54:50,253
Speaker 20: it out in the open somewhere in the middle of

2339
01:54:50,253 --> 01:54:50,533
Speaker 20: the day.

2340
01:54:50,973 --> 01:54:53,012
Speaker 2: All right, Well, good luck with it, Jamie.

2341
01:54:53,013 --> 01:54:53,932
Speaker 3: That's a great story.

2342
01:54:54,333 --> 01:54:55,772
Speaker 2: Get back to us and tell us how it goes,

2343
01:54:55,812 --> 01:54:56,053
Speaker 2: will you.

2344
01:54:56,893 --> 01:54:57,613
Speaker 17: Yeah, we'll see.

2345
01:54:58,573 --> 01:55:00,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good luck with that, Jamie. Thank you

2346
01:55:00,453 --> 01:55:01,133
Speaker 2: so much for your call.

2347
01:55:01,213 --> 01:55:04,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Jamie. A couple of texts before we

2348
01:55:05,013 --> 01:55:09,892
Speaker 3: have got to shoot off. Yeah, guys, my husband has

2349
01:55:09,933 --> 01:55:15,533
Speaker 3: the most beautiful skin tone and that after doing a

2350
01:55:15,613 --> 01:55:18,453
Speaker 3: DNA test, found out that he had got it from

2351
01:55:19,053 --> 01:55:21,973
Speaker 3: Mediterranean lineage. It was a nice surprise for him. So

2352
01:55:21,973 --> 01:55:22,772
Speaker 3: that's a nice text.

2353
01:55:22,933 --> 01:55:25,253
Speaker 2: My kids are donat eggs from my sister, so when

2354
01:55:25,253 --> 01:55:28,173
Speaker 2: they do their DNA, I show as their auntie. Kind

2355
01:55:28,173 --> 01:55:32,253
Speaker 2: of sucks though everyone knows and it's cooled and I'm grateful,

2356
01:55:32,333 --> 01:55:33,493
Speaker 2: but it still kind of sucks.

2357
01:55:36,053 --> 01:55:38,613
Speaker 3: Guys. My Irish dad had a touch of Spanish and

2358
01:55:38,653 --> 01:55:41,693
Speaker 3: his DNA, and my Irish mom had Viking. My sister

2359
01:55:41,733 --> 01:55:43,733
Speaker 3: got the Spanish blood, and I have the blue eyed,

2360
01:55:43,853 --> 01:55:45,892
Speaker 3: blonde fairskin Viking jeans.

2361
01:55:46,093 --> 01:55:50,533
Speaker 2: All right, tall as well, hope, so ever, enjoy yourself pillaging.

2362
01:55:51,613 --> 01:55:53,493
Speaker 2: Yes there you're walking home one day and you see

2363
01:55:53,533 --> 01:55:54,932
Speaker 2: a monastery, you burn it.

2364
01:55:54,893 --> 01:55:57,173
Speaker 3: Down, telltale sign Viking Viking blood.

2365
01:55:58,173 --> 01:55:58,413
Speaker 1: Right.

2366
01:55:58,533 --> 01:56:01,453
Speaker 3: That is asked for today being a great show, So

2367
01:56:01,533 --> 01:56:03,613
Speaker 3: thank you very much, and thank you for everyone who

2368
01:56:03,733 --> 01:56:06,972
Speaker 3: text and phoned on that topic. That was a doozy.

2369
01:56:07,013 --> 01:56:08,293
Speaker 3: We could have done that for four hours.

2370
01:56:08,373 --> 01:56:10,093
Speaker 2: Then the kid that was very interesting, and sorry that

2371
01:56:10,133 --> 01:56:11,892
Speaker 2: we didn't get to you a text. There were thousands

2372
01:56:11,893 --> 01:56:15,013
Speaker 2: that came through on nine to two. So anyway, yes,

2373
01:56:15,173 --> 01:56:18,053
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow AVO for another edition of Matt and

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