1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Togither dupless Ellen. I'm going to get to your text 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: on Chris Hepkins shortly. Right now, it's nineteen past five. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Got to go to the murder trial of Philip Pulkinghorn. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: He is accused of murdering her. He says, this is 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: his wife, Pauline Hannah. He says she took her own life. 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Chelsea Daniels covering the trial and is with us now, 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: h Chelse, I am a lot of messaging between Hannah 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: and poulking Horn. What have we learned from that? 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? So, defense lawyer Ron Mansfield question Detective Reeves. He 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: was in charge of looking at their phones and other tech. 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: He said, does seven plus formal written statements to assist 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: the jury that traversus Polkinghorn's relationship with Ashton? That's how 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: many he wrote. But did he review her work related 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: email history or the messaging between the husband and wife. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I did review the messages. I looked at them. I 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: didn't create a detailed report on it. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: Bye. Was that because the messages didn't support the police narrative? Well? 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: As I said, the messages were not on day to 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: day messages? 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: Or did those messages reveal a working, loving relationship between 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: the two of them. 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: So Mansfield produces a booklet of messages beginning twenty first 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: of February twenty twenty. He runs through the messages sent 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: back and forth between the couple, lots of ex'es, darlings, 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: and heart emojis, other emojis. A further messaging show the 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: pair checking in on each other, asking how they are. 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: Did these messages suggest a working, loving relationship, asks Manfield 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: and Mansfield and Reeves said they did, and he didn't 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: see any evidence of a conflict between the pair. 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: And we had a little bit of a bombshell this 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: afternoon from the defense, right, Yeah. 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: So Mansfield produces another exhibit, a timeline for Hannah's phone 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: usage for the early morning of April fifth, twenty twenty one, 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: the morning of her death. Mansfield goes through what apparently 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: happens when someone uses I message. When you start typing, 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: the app connects and log's activity even if you didn't 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: send the message. There's a log entry for around four am. 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: It appears Hannah's phone was logged drafting a message on 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: the morning of her death to Philip Polkinghorn. Minutes later, 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: another draft message to a friend's daughter. Neither of them 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: sent The trial continues tomorrow. 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Interesting. Hey Chelsea, thank you very much, really appreciate it. 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more, listen to Chelsea Daniel's 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: podcast it's called Accused the polking Horn Trial. For more 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to news talks. 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio