1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: So face one of the past deal in the Middle 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: East looks on Israel looks sitt to ratify today, hostages 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: data or alive, will be returned, prisoners released. I to 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: fly the American seam bullish. 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Suffice it to say design exaggeration, that none of it 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't impossible without the President of the United States being involved. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Question, and then, of course, is what happens next. Tigi 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Manto is journalist executive director of Plus nine seventy two 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: magazine in Israel, is back with us morning. How would 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: you describe the level of hope and expectation. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: It's unfathomable. It's the first time we have had hope 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: in a very, very, very long time. And while we're 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 3: really expecting first of all, the end of the massacre 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: in Cadan, also the return of the hostages, these are 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: things that are pretty certain to happen, we're also really 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: hoping that it still continue as promised to a prolonged 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: cease fire and ideally then further to the end of 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: ongoing apartheid in siege. 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Do you have enough clarity around the specifics or not? 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: Well, we have some of the specifics for the coming 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 4: few days, so a limited retreat by the Israeli army 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: within Gada, cesition of hostilities, of violent clashes and obitually 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: air strikes, and then also the release of hostages and 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 4: about two hundred and fifty Pelsenian prisoners, the identity of 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: whom it's not been finalized yet. 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: At no point have Hamas said as part of the 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: twenty point plan that YEP will lie down these weapons 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: and we're done being terrorists. Is that a problem? 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: So, again, this is only the first phase, and it 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: has been agreed to only agree on the first phase 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: and do this ceasefire and prisoners swap and hostage release 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: and after that continue with negotiations. So I think Ntaao 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: is basically promising his base that the war will continue, 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: that he will eradicate Hamas. I think it's pretty certain 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: that that is not what the Kataris and the Trump 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: administration are after. Hopefully they can continue pressing both sides 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: to agree to the more advanced stages of disagreement. 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: How does it land domestically for Nitnyaho given some of 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: the people he's gotten this cabinet who won't be iverly 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: happy with this. 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: So the question is how far it goes for the 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: first faith. You know they're making you know, these faiths. 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: They're unhappy, but they're like, you know, we won't top 44 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: of your government over this. 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: I think if the. 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: War actually ends for good, then they will likely leave 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: the government and we will likely be seeing a new 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: elections soon. 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Hagi, what chance that this is Iba? There is peace 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and you and I for the 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: rest of our lives will never talk about conflict in 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: your part of the world ever. 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: Again, I would say almost none, unfortunately, just realistically speaking, 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: even if this agreement is complete lely successful in ending 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: the war and the genocide and Gada, then we will 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 3: have quiet around Gaza, but we will be basically where 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: we started, where we were in October sixth of twenty 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: twenty three, where as well continues it's aparthead regime in 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: the West Bank and continues to sege over Gaza, and 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: without any substantial changes of that reality, without justice and 61 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: liberation for Palestinians across the land, we will just be 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: back where we started, and there will be renewed violence 63 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: in the future. And this regime is violent in its nature, 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: So if that doesn't end, if the core problem doesn't end, 65 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: we'll be back to the same place where we started. 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: All right, Hag, you appreciate it. Hagi Mante, who's out 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: of Israel for us this morning. 68 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio.