1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:18,133 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b between. 3 00:00:45,293 --> 00:00:49,613 Speaker 2: This is Bigger Bye Phaser Days, kicking off our hour. 4 00:00:50,013 --> 00:00:53,213 Speaker 2: New Zealand Music's big night out took place this week. 5 00:00:53,333 --> 00:00:57,093 Speaker 2: The Urtro Music Awards celebrated at sixtieth year with our 6 00:00:57,133 --> 00:01:00,733 Speaker 2: biggest musical stars, glitzedon, glammed for the red carpet and 7 00:01:00,813 --> 00:01:04,093 Speaker 2: taking out two awards for Best Solo Artist and a 8 00:01:04,173 --> 00:01:07,493 Speaker 2: highly coveted Album of the Year was Face Days, also 9 00:01:07,613 --> 00:01:11,413 Speaker 2: known as Amelia Murray and Amelia joins me this morning, 10 00:01:11,453 --> 00:01:12,373 Speaker 2: Good morning. 11 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:14,173 Speaker 3: In now Francesca. 12 00:01:14,293 --> 00:01:16,933 Speaker 2: How are we really good to have you with us? 13 00:01:17,053 --> 00:01:20,933 Speaker 2: This is your first time winning an out Own Music Award. 14 00:01:21,293 --> 00:01:22,893 Speaker 2: How did you feel hearing your name? 15 00:01:24,213 --> 00:01:28,493 Speaker 3: Ah, I felt weirdly calm. Actually, I think it's it 16 00:01:28,533 --> 00:01:31,013 Speaker 3: feels kind of like it's been a really long time coming. 17 00:01:31,133 --> 00:01:34,333 Speaker 3: I've been nominated quite a few times before, and it 18 00:01:34,373 --> 00:01:36,053 Speaker 3: was kind of it was nice to finally take home 19 00:01:36,093 --> 00:01:38,733 Speaker 3: a trophy. So yeah, I felt really felt really good. 20 00:01:39,093 --> 00:01:42,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, because your album Soft Power was a long time 21 00:01:42,053 --> 00:01:45,733 Speaker 2: in the making, and I wonder whether this when cemented 22 00:01:46,453 --> 00:01:49,293 Speaker 2: that time, that you know that taking your time was 23 00:01:49,373 --> 00:01:50,293 Speaker 2: really worth it. 24 00:01:51,373 --> 00:01:53,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean it was kind of 25 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:56,173 Speaker 3: validating because it was a really hard journey making this record. 26 00:01:56,213 --> 00:01:58,413 Speaker 3: I had a lot of stuff going on personally, but 27 00:01:58,493 --> 00:02:02,613 Speaker 3: also just navigating the industry and trying to free the 28 00:02:02,693 --> 00:02:05,653 Speaker 3: music was a massive journey. Just just getting the music 29 00:02:05,693 --> 00:02:09,253 Speaker 3: out there and untangling it from a lot of various 30 00:02:09,333 --> 00:02:11,773 Speaker 3: things that were going on, and so then to kind 31 00:02:11,813 --> 00:02:14,733 Speaker 3: of have a couple of awards in my hands to 32 00:02:14,813 --> 00:02:18,493 Speaker 3: kind of show for all that that work was just 33 00:02:18,853 --> 00:02:22,253 Speaker 3: really really validating and gratifying. 34 00:02:22,413 --> 00:02:25,053 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you should be proud because that Album of 35 00:02:25,093 --> 00:02:29,253 Speaker 2: the Year category, it was stacked with amazing albums, wasn't it. 36 00:02:29,933 --> 00:02:32,453 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh? Yeah, I mean I was really nestled 37 00:02:32,493 --> 00:02:34,333 Speaker 3: into my seat. I was. I was pretty cumfy to 38 00:02:34,373 --> 00:02:36,693 Speaker 3: be like, okay, well the night's over, like like I was. 39 00:02:36,813 --> 00:02:38,973 Speaker 3: I was not expecting to get up on stage again. 40 00:02:39,133 --> 00:02:42,133 Speaker 3: So it was yeah, I mean that category, there's so 41 00:02:42,173 --> 00:02:45,293 Speaker 3: many great artists and then great records. So I was 42 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:48,413 Speaker 3: pretty surprised. I was genuinely very surprised to win to 43 00:02:48,453 --> 00:02:49,973 Speaker 3: win that one, Yeah, the big one. 44 00:02:50,853 --> 00:02:54,693 Speaker 2: How fun are these big awards nights? Are they fun? 45 00:02:54,813 --> 00:02:55,573 Speaker 2: Do you enjoy them? 46 00:02:56,373 --> 00:02:59,733 Speaker 3: Yeah? I lean it's quite I find they're getting really 47 00:02:59,813 --> 00:03:03,133 Speaker 3: quite stressful because there's a lot of a lot of 48 00:03:03,133 --> 00:03:05,413 Speaker 3: things like that. On that night, I had to think 49 00:03:05,413 --> 00:03:07,653 Speaker 3: about the c I was wearing for the Red Carpet 50 00:03:07,653 --> 00:03:09,653 Speaker 3: and then performing as well, and the kind of different 51 00:03:09,973 --> 00:03:13,053 Speaker 3: looks between the two. But once I reckon, the hardest 52 00:03:13,053 --> 00:03:15,573 Speaker 3: thing is getting ready. This most stressful thing is getting ready. 53 00:03:15,573 --> 00:03:18,093 Speaker 3: And then once you're there, it's so much fun because 54 00:03:18,453 --> 00:03:22,933 Speaker 3: all your peers celebrating and celebrating each other and yeah, 55 00:03:22,933 --> 00:03:27,013 Speaker 3: and celebrating music, and so it's it's a pretty special, 56 00:03:27,093 --> 00:03:29,933 Speaker 3: magical night. Yes, it is fun once you get past 57 00:03:29,933 --> 00:03:30,373 Speaker 3: the stress. 58 00:03:30,853 --> 00:03:34,213 Speaker 2: Is it more nerve breaking performing a gig to your 59 00:03:34,253 --> 00:03:37,173 Speaker 2: fans or performing in front of a room full of 60 00:03:37,173 --> 00:03:38,933 Speaker 2: your peers? 61 00:03:38,933 --> 00:03:39,173 Speaker 1: Oh? 62 00:03:39,453 --> 00:03:45,613 Speaker 3: Good question. I was probably more nervous performing in front 63 00:03:45,653 --> 00:03:49,413 Speaker 3: of my peers, because ah, they know, you know, you 64 00:03:49,493 --> 00:03:53,973 Speaker 3: can't really hide from them. So yeah, I think i'd 65 00:03:54,053 --> 00:03:56,773 Speaker 3: probably say playing in front of my peers, Yeah, I mean, 66 00:03:56,813 --> 00:03:58,853 Speaker 3: I think I think Lord was in the audience, you know, 67 00:03:58,933 --> 00:04:01,853 Speaker 3: so lots of like you know, stand walker, big big 68 00:04:01,973 --> 00:04:04,933 Speaker 3: names and great artists in the audience. So yeah, I 69 00:04:04,973 --> 00:04:05,733 Speaker 3: was pretty nervous. 70 00:04:06,453 --> 00:04:08,133 Speaker 2: Do you get to sort of brush shoulders and meet 71 00:04:08,173 --> 00:04:08,693 Speaker 2: these people. 72 00:04:09,933 --> 00:04:12,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I met Stan for the first time, 73 00:04:12,533 --> 00:04:14,813 Speaker 3: Sam Walker for the first time and he was so sweet. 74 00:04:14,933 --> 00:04:18,013 Speaker 3: And I've known Ala for a while Lord for a while, 75 00:04:18,093 --> 00:04:19,453 Speaker 3: but I didn't know I sho didn't get to bump 76 00:04:19,493 --> 00:04:21,653 Speaker 3: into her, But yeah, it was it was pretty nice 77 00:04:21,693 --> 00:04:25,333 Speaker 3: meeting I meet Holly Smith, who I've looked up to 78 00:04:25,453 --> 00:04:29,493 Speaker 3: my whole life. So yeah, you do get to hang 79 00:04:29,533 --> 00:04:31,533 Speaker 3: out with the with the stars. That's pretty special. 80 00:04:31,773 --> 00:04:33,373 Speaker 2: And Amlia. By the end of the night, he had 81 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:36,173 Speaker 2: you agreed to do some collaborations with people, and. 82 00:04:38,293 --> 00:04:40,933 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't. I didn't quite smooth that hard, but 83 00:04:42,213 --> 00:04:43,373 Speaker 3: I to plant some seeds. 84 00:04:43,413 --> 00:04:47,733 Speaker 2: So I like it. But it sounds cheesy, But actually 85 00:04:48,573 --> 00:04:53,053 Speaker 2: the New Zealand music industry is very open and generous 86 00:04:53,133 --> 00:04:58,053 Speaker 2: and friendly and welcoming of people, isn't it genuinely? 87 00:04:58,133 --> 00:05:02,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Most people are really approachable 88 00:05:02,373 --> 00:05:06,973 Speaker 3: and accessible and every time I've reached out to someone 89 00:05:07,013 --> 00:05:10,773 Speaker 3: for advice or help, I've always been met with a 90 00:05:10,813 --> 00:05:13,373 Speaker 3: reply or help or being pointed in the right direction. 91 00:05:13,613 --> 00:05:16,013 Speaker 3: So so yeah, for the most part, I think it 92 00:05:16,453 --> 00:05:20,293 Speaker 3: is a really supportive industry. I mean there's not there's 93 00:05:20,413 --> 00:05:23,293 Speaker 3: everyone knows each other and there's not it's not very big, 94 00:05:23,453 --> 00:05:26,813 Speaker 3: so yeah, it is. It is. You know, when a 95 00:05:26,853 --> 00:05:29,293 Speaker 3: newcomer comes in, it's it's like, you know, everyone knows 96 00:05:29,333 --> 00:05:33,013 Speaker 3: about them straight away, So it's pretty Yeah, I'd say 97 00:05:33,013 --> 00:05:36,453 Speaker 3: it is really supportive, especially between artists who, like sometimes 98 00:05:36,453 --> 00:05:39,333 Speaker 3: I've had to double check a deal with someone, and 99 00:05:39,733 --> 00:05:41,853 Speaker 3: even an artist I don't know who may maybe has 100 00:05:41,893 --> 00:05:43,813 Speaker 3: a similar deal, I'll reach out to them and be like, hey, 101 00:05:43,853 --> 00:05:46,293 Speaker 3: can you can you kind of bounce this off you? 102 00:05:46,333 --> 00:05:48,773 Speaker 3: And that I've always been met with so much help. 103 00:05:48,853 --> 00:05:50,893 Speaker 3: So yes, it's pretty special like that. 104 00:05:51,973 --> 00:05:54,413 Speaker 2: I mean, there was a bit of time when you 105 00:05:54,533 --> 00:05:58,293 Speaker 2: sort of stepped away from music between albums from twenty 106 00:05:58,493 --> 00:06:01,173 Speaker 2: seventeen to sort of soft power. Why was that? 107 00:06:02,613 --> 00:06:06,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I went through as I don't really want 108 00:06:06,653 --> 00:06:08,653 Speaker 3: to get into like the personal details of it, but 109 00:06:08,693 --> 00:06:13,853 Speaker 3: I just was battling a lot of I guess things 110 00:06:13,853 --> 00:06:18,133 Speaker 3: in my domestic life that weren't very balanced and weren't Yeah, 111 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:21,373 Speaker 3: we're out of We're really out of balance, and I 112 00:06:21,413 --> 00:06:24,413 Speaker 3: was fighting these kind of power dynamics and just not 113 00:06:24,533 --> 00:06:27,293 Speaker 3: really able to win. As as a young woman making 114 00:06:27,493 --> 00:06:30,773 Speaker 3: music and navigating the world, I didn't really have the 115 00:06:30,813 --> 00:06:34,533 Speaker 3: skill set to know how to battle what I was 116 00:06:34,573 --> 00:06:37,213 Speaker 3: going through. And it took me a really it took 117 00:06:37,253 --> 00:06:40,413 Speaker 3: me stepping away from music and sort of moving cities 118 00:06:40,453 --> 00:06:43,413 Speaker 3: to kind of find myself again. It was a really 119 00:06:43,613 --> 00:06:48,813 Speaker 3: slow journey to come back into myself to then be 120 00:06:48,933 --> 00:06:52,093 Speaker 3: able to make music and get it out there again. 121 00:06:52,133 --> 00:06:56,133 Speaker 3: It's a I feel like this job is quite I 122 00:06:56,133 --> 00:06:58,813 Speaker 3: guess like spiritual or something like. I do have to 123 00:06:58,853 --> 00:07:01,973 Speaker 3: be quite in touch with myself and my intuition just 124 00:07:02,013 --> 00:07:04,133 Speaker 3: to be able to do my job. And if I 125 00:07:04,133 --> 00:07:06,933 Speaker 3: if I if I'm losing touch with myself, really hard 126 00:07:06,973 --> 00:07:09,933 Speaker 3: to make decisions and put myself out there and put 127 00:07:09,973 --> 00:07:12,573 Speaker 3: myself on a stage if I'm not feeling in my 128 00:07:12,653 --> 00:07:15,453 Speaker 3: own frame. So it's been a long time coming back 129 00:07:15,453 --> 00:07:17,453 Speaker 3: into my own frame after some of the things I 130 00:07:17,493 --> 00:07:17,973 Speaker 3: went through. 131 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:20,533 Speaker 2: I was talking to mel Parsons recently and she, you know, 132 00:07:20,533 --> 00:07:22,573 Speaker 2: she did making point she went, writing songs is actually 133 00:07:22,653 --> 00:07:27,093 Speaker 2: really hard. Oh yeah, you know, if you're not in 134 00:07:27,173 --> 00:07:30,693 Speaker 2: the right place or space or you know, it's hard anyway. 135 00:07:31,653 --> 00:07:36,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Oh, it really is. It's it's like a 136 00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:39,413 Speaker 3: really psychological battle, like you've got to let it, You've 137 00:07:39,453 --> 00:07:41,413 Speaker 3: got to let it flow. You can't force it, but 138 00:07:41,493 --> 00:07:43,853 Speaker 3: you also do have to sit down and work. So 139 00:07:43,893 --> 00:07:48,613 Speaker 3: it's like this really fine balance between yeah, just just flowing, 140 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:52,773 Speaker 3: but also being disciplined enough to let it flow. So 141 00:07:53,053 --> 00:07:56,373 Speaker 3: it's yeah, I find it really I've find it really tricky, 142 00:07:56,573 --> 00:07:59,293 Speaker 3: and when a song comes comes through it it's like 143 00:07:59,933 --> 00:08:02,293 Speaker 3: you've struck gold, you know, But it doesn't always show 144 00:08:02,373 --> 00:08:04,573 Speaker 3: up and sometimes you're like, oh, well, that was a 145 00:08:04,613 --> 00:08:08,493 Speaker 3: waste of time and what am I doing with my life? Amelia? 146 00:08:08,733 --> 00:08:10,813 Speaker 2: The Sound and Soft Power is a lot bolder than 147 00:08:10,853 --> 00:08:14,053 Speaker 2: your debut. How did your approach to creating this album 148 00:08:14,133 --> 00:08:15,413 Speaker 2: differ from before? 149 00:08:17,133 --> 00:08:22,133 Speaker 3: Oh? So, I guess I've always done like bedroom pop music, 150 00:08:22,173 --> 00:08:25,013 Speaker 3: and I've kind of always made music in my bedroom, 151 00:08:25,093 --> 00:08:27,173 Speaker 3: and with that comes like a bit more of a 152 00:08:27,213 --> 00:08:32,733 Speaker 3: low fire sound, and I, you know, my first record, 153 00:08:32,773 --> 00:08:35,813 Speaker 3: Morning Side, did quite well, and I started to find 154 00:08:35,813 --> 00:08:39,253 Speaker 3: myself on these bigger stages because of how well my 155 00:08:39,333 --> 00:08:42,173 Speaker 3: career was going, and I guess that kind of inspired 156 00:08:42,773 --> 00:08:45,693 Speaker 3: the next record, as I thought I'd love to make 157 00:08:45,773 --> 00:08:48,893 Speaker 3: music that actually suited the stage more and suited these 158 00:08:49,973 --> 00:08:53,213 Speaker 3: venues I was playing because they were getting larger and 159 00:08:53,253 --> 00:08:56,453 Speaker 3: my music was still quite small and bedroom me so 160 00:08:56,453 --> 00:08:58,493 Speaker 3: soft Power. I was really trying to lean into a 161 00:08:58,533 --> 00:09:06,533 Speaker 3: more expansive, open cinematic sound whiles still retaining this like 162 00:09:06,573 --> 00:09:09,973 Speaker 3: bedroom like quality. So I do kind of joke that 163 00:09:10,133 --> 00:09:12,893 Speaker 3: Soft Power is like a bedroom stadium records, Like I've 164 00:09:13,253 --> 00:09:14,933 Speaker 3: I tried to straddle both on it. 165 00:09:15,853 --> 00:09:17,893 Speaker 2: You know, it's really interesting you say that because the 166 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:21,013 Speaker 2: coming time made to my producer was this would just 167 00:09:21,053 --> 00:09:24,973 Speaker 2: be so awesome live, you know, you know, to hear 168 00:09:25,013 --> 00:09:27,853 Speaker 2: this album played live. Was it fun to be able 169 00:09:27,893 --> 00:09:31,373 Speaker 2: to take it from you know that? Did you enjoy 170 00:09:31,453 --> 00:09:33,693 Speaker 2: that process of taking it from an album from the 171 00:09:33,693 --> 00:09:34,933 Speaker 2: bedroom to the stage. 172 00:09:35,973 --> 00:09:39,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have really, because I sort of 173 00:09:39,773 --> 00:09:42,773 Speaker 3: did well on the internet, and I'm an introverted person 174 00:09:42,813 --> 00:09:45,773 Speaker 3: and a kind of just like you know, make music 175 00:09:45,813 --> 00:09:48,093 Speaker 3: in my bedroom and spend far too many hours on 176 00:09:48,133 --> 00:09:54,173 Speaker 3: my own. It has been a real big transition, not 177 00:09:54,453 --> 00:09:58,093 Speaker 3: just getting the music into a live setting and everything, 178 00:09:58,133 --> 00:10:02,253 Speaker 3: but also myself out of my bedroom and like onto 179 00:10:02,293 --> 00:10:05,213 Speaker 3: the road and touring in front of people and socializing, 180 00:10:05,253 --> 00:10:09,733 Speaker 3: and yeah, there has been it has been. It's been 181 00:10:09,733 --> 00:10:13,013 Speaker 3: a it's definitely been a journey like putting that music 182 00:10:13,013 --> 00:10:15,773 Speaker 3: onto the stage. And I actually recently got some help 183 00:10:15,813 --> 00:10:18,653 Speaker 3: from my friend time in Martin and he helps me 184 00:10:19,453 --> 00:10:23,533 Speaker 3: adapt the music from you know, my recordings into the 185 00:10:23,573 --> 00:10:28,133 Speaker 3: band and onto the onto the stage, because I often 186 00:10:28,213 --> 00:10:30,213 Speaker 3: just like write these songs in my room and I 187 00:10:30,253 --> 00:10:32,853 Speaker 3: and record them in my room, and then I don't 188 00:10:32,853 --> 00:10:35,373 Speaker 3: actually know how to play them live. So it's been 189 00:10:35,413 --> 00:10:36,973 Speaker 3: good to get some help with that. Lately. 190 00:10:37,573 --> 00:10:40,253 Speaker 2: You've already toured with the band PONND through the US, 191 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:42,333 Speaker 2: and you're going back to tour it in in the 192 00:10:42,453 --> 00:10:43,133 Speaker 2: UI soon. 193 00:10:44,213 --> 00:10:44,893 Speaker 1: What's that like? 194 00:10:46,173 --> 00:10:51,653 Speaker 3: Oh, it's pretty. It's pretty surreal. It's like I mean, 195 00:10:52,453 --> 00:10:55,093 Speaker 3: touring the US, it was just something I dreamed of 196 00:10:55,133 --> 00:10:58,733 Speaker 3: as a teenager playing in a band. And now to 197 00:10:58,853 --> 00:11:01,973 Speaker 3: be yeah, like invited back over there. We're touring with 198 00:11:02,053 --> 00:11:07,813 Speaker 3: Petsi's in August and September and in the US. It's 199 00:11:07,933 --> 00:11:10,733 Speaker 3: it's pretty surreal. It's it's pretty. Not gonna lie, it's pretty. 200 00:11:11,813 --> 00:11:14,813 Speaker 3: It's very hard work like it. It's really hard work 201 00:11:14,853 --> 00:11:18,413 Speaker 3: on the body, like just a lot of venues and 202 00:11:18,613 --> 00:11:24,053 Speaker 3: vans and hotels, but it's pretty special. I always take 203 00:11:24,173 --> 00:11:26,493 Speaker 3: my one of my best friends, Dave Rowlands. He plays 204 00:11:26,533 --> 00:11:29,933 Speaker 3: guitar in my band, and because I've got him, it's 205 00:11:30,093 --> 00:11:32,733 Speaker 3: even when it gets hard. It's actually it's actually still 206 00:11:32,773 --> 00:11:33,253 Speaker 3: really fun. 207 00:11:34,733 --> 00:11:37,173 Speaker 2: Have you learned how to have you had to sort 208 00:11:37,173 --> 00:11:39,053 Speaker 2: of be quite proactive and learning how to look after 209 00:11:39,093 --> 00:11:42,093 Speaker 2: yourself when you're on the right. You know, it's not 210 00:11:42,133 --> 00:11:43,493 Speaker 2: like the good old days rock and roll that you 211 00:11:43,533 --> 00:11:46,733 Speaker 2: sort of that will be actually have to sort of 212 00:11:47,093 --> 00:11:49,613 Speaker 2: you know, be quite self preserving about it. Take a 213 00:11:49,653 --> 00:11:51,573 Speaker 2: sort of quite a self preserving approach to it. 214 00:11:52,293 --> 00:11:55,493 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Like sometimes I watch the movies and then 215 00:11:55,573 --> 00:11:57,813 Speaker 3: touring and drinking and like doing drugs, and I'm like, 216 00:11:57,853 --> 00:12:00,973 Speaker 3: how you actually you have to be a machine if 217 00:12:01,013 --> 00:12:04,653 Speaker 3: you are doing that. Plus touring, like touring on its 218 00:12:04,653 --> 00:12:08,293 Speaker 3: own is just so hard, and throw alcohol and drugs. 219 00:12:08,333 --> 00:12:10,133 Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know how anyone would get through 220 00:12:10,133 --> 00:12:13,533 Speaker 3: a tour. So yeah, I I mean, yeah, I've got 221 00:12:13,573 --> 00:12:16,893 Speaker 3: a lot of little hacks I do, Like I bring 222 00:12:16,933 --> 00:12:19,213 Speaker 3: a yoga mat on tour, like a very unrock and 223 00:12:19,293 --> 00:12:22,733 Speaker 3: roll I bring my yoga mat. I bring a skipping 224 00:12:22,813 --> 00:12:26,253 Speaker 3: rope just so that like in between, you know, when 225 00:12:26,253 --> 00:12:28,093 Speaker 3: we when we get a stop on the road, I 226 00:12:28,133 --> 00:12:32,773 Speaker 3: can like do a little you know, get the blood flowing. Yeah, 227 00:12:32,893 --> 00:12:35,413 Speaker 3: I've got a whole bunch of other hacks, just to 228 00:12:35,493 --> 00:12:39,173 Speaker 3: kind of keep fit and healthy because you have to, 229 00:12:39,373 --> 00:12:41,973 Speaker 3: like you know, just I'm playing a pretty heavy guitar 230 00:12:42,013 --> 00:12:44,693 Speaker 3: every night, so my strength has to be my core 231 00:12:44,733 --> 00:12:49,053 Speaker 3: strength has to be up and yeah it's and there's 232 00:12:49,053 --> 00:12:50,813 Speaker 3: a lot of heavy gear to lift, so you do 233 00:12:50,853 --> 00:12:53,853 Speaker 3: actually have to be quite physically in a good and 234 00:12:53,933 --> 00:12:58,133 Speaker 3: a good place. Otherwise it's it goes down hell really fast. 235 00:12:58,173 --> 00:13:01,573 Speaker 3: It's it's a real I find touring just all about 236 00:13:01,613 --> 00:13:04,773 Speaker 3: self preservation. So yeah, do. 237 00:13:04,733 --> 00:13:07,333 Speaker 2: You have a different expectation of how those international shows 238 00:13:07,373 --> 00:13:09,293 Speaker 2: will feel compared to the ones that you play for 239 00:13:09,333 --> 00:13:10,093 Speaker 2: the home audience. 240 00:13:12,813 --> 00:13:14,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean when we head over 241 00:13:15,133 --> 00:13:18,973 Speaker 3: in August to support pet Seas and another band called Spoon, 242 00:13:20,533 --> 00:13:23,253 Speaker 3: we are playing this will be my first time doing 243 00:13:23,293 --> 00:13:25,773 Speaker 3: like an outdoor ampitheater tour, so a lot of these 244 00:13:25,853 --> 00:13:29,413 Speaker 3: venues that we're playing will be like it'll be Midsummer, 245 00:13:29,493 --> 00:13:33,173 Speaker 3: and I guess it will be kind of different in 246 00:13:33,173 --> 00:13:35,933 Speaker 3: that sense, just like you know, we're playing Red Rocks 247 00:13:35,973 --> 00:13:42,733 Speaker 3: and Denver like quite big, outdoor, iconic venue, So I 248 00:13:42,733 --> 00:13:45,973 Speaker 3: think I guess that will be one point of difference. 249 00:13:46,093 --> 00:13:48,613 Speaker 3: But other than that, like when we do head on 250 00:13:48,693 --> 00:13:52,493 Speaker 3: like a more regular your phase it Day's headline tour 251 00:13:52,773 --> 00:13:54,613 Speaker 3: in the US or headline shows in the US. It 252 00:13:54,653 --> 00:13:58,013 Speaker 3: is actually quite similar. Like it's actually, you know, when 253 00:13:58,013 --> 00:14:00,253 Speaker 3: you talk to people afterwards, it's just the accents different, 254 00:14:00,293 --> 00:14:02,853 Speaker 3: But other than that, it's actually it is really similar. 255 00:14:03,733 --> 00:14:06,053 Speaker 2: I meanly, just finally, when you're making music, do you 256 00:14:06,053 --> 00:14:08,133 Speaker 2: think about the way your audience is going to relate 257 00:14:08,333 --> 00:14:09,893 Speaker 2: or do you just make it and put it out 258 00:14:09,933 --> 00:14:12,253 Speaker 2: there in the world for people to enjoy however they 259 00:14:12,493 --> 00:14:14,453 Speaker 2: and interpret, interpret however they like. 260 00:14:15,693 --> 00:14:18,293 Speaker 3: A yeah, I mean I usually just try, like I mean, 261 00:14:18,373 --> 00:14:21,973 Speaker 3: I have tried to write in a way of like, oh, 262 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:24,853 Speaker 3: this will go down well, but it doesn't really work. 263 00:14:25,293 --> 00:14:27,653 Speaker 3: But it doesn't really. I don't find it very conducive 264 00:14:27,693 --> 00:14:30,933 Speaker 3: to my creativity to think too much about the audience 265 00:14:31,053 --> 00:14:33,253 Speaker 3: early on. I just sort of try to leave that 266 00:14:33,933 --> 00:14:38,613 Speaker 3: later in the creative process. I off. Now, I try 267 00:14:38,693 --> 00:14:41,453 Speaker 3: my best to just write for myself. And I feel 268 00:14:41,493 --> 00:14:43,933 Speaker 3: like you hear that all the time, but I really 269 00:14:44,013 --> 00:14:47,893 Speaker 3: do try to just write what makes me feel excited 270 00:14:47,893 --> 00:14:51,293 Speaker 3: and what's resonating with me, because I know that if 271 00:14:51,333 --> 00:14:54,733 Speaker 3: I trust that and follow that, it will resonate with 272 00:14:54,773 --> 00:14:56,973 Speaker 3: other people. So I do try to just pull it 273 00:14:56,973 --> 00:15:00,813 Speaker 3: in and and and follow my nose on what feels 274 00:15:00,853 --> 00:15:04,013 Speaker 3: exciting to me. And yeah, and that's that's how I've 275 00:15:04,013 --> 00:15:07,533 Speaker 3: been working lately anyway, and it's been it's been, yeah, 276 00:15:07,653 --> 00:15:10,813 Speaker 3: very conducive to her creativity. I'm finding Amelia. 277 00:15:11,293 --> 00:15:13,813 Speaker 2: Best of luck with the tour in the US, and 278 00:15:13,853 --> 00:15:16,293 Speaker 2: congratulations on the big wins this week. 279 00:15:16,413 --> 00:15:19,333 Speaker 3: Well done, Thank you, Francisca, thanks for having me. 280 00:15:19,973 --> 00:15:23,773 Speaker 2: That was Amelia Murray, who you may know as Phaser Days. 281 00:15:23,973 --> 00:15:27,813 Speaker 2: Go and have and listen to her gorgeous album Soft Power. 282 00:15:28,253 --> 00:15:31,973 Speaker 2: She won Album of the Year and also Best Solo 283 00:15:32,133 --> 00:15:35,133 Speaker 2: Artist at the Altro Music Awards this week. 284 00:15:35,733 --> 00:15:38,853 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 285 00:15:38,933 --> 00:15:41,733 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or 286 00:15:41,813 --> 00:15:43,733 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.