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Speaker 1: That's a great song. Welcome to the podcast, Tonty.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Hamy. It's nice to be here, Nice to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we do it. We do it in real time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of other podcasts they'll put that on

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Speaker 2: but not here. Not here, this good podcast. You guys,

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Speaker 1: We do it for real. Thanks for hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us this morning. Hey, it's nice. I let you. Had

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Speaker 2: I looked out and saw beautiful sunshiny day, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I've got a few questions. I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: It's pretty often a lot of people will say, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: The other people who will be good The big one

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Speaker 2: Everyone says. It's not a funny thing to say. No,

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Speaker 2: anytime you say that's a comedian, they will, and I

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Speaker 2: much forever. There's no coming back from that. If you

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Speaker 1: You did. I'll do a funny guy. Yeah, tell us

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Speaker 2: I'm a plumber'm we'll come around and fix my toilet

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fix us, fix us. It's like meaning an athlete

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Speaker 2: I usually will say that. I'll be like, what do

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. Yeh see, it's no fun. No, well,

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Speaker 1: You just haven't been in the right place I think so.

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Speaker 1: That, you could do three or four a week.

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Speaker 3: But man, that gets punishing because are exhausting. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: you a few times there, Ruda, that's true.

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Speaker 3: When you did you throw a shoe on a roof once.

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Speaker 2: I didn't throw a shoe. What happened was it was

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Speaker 2: And I went up to get it, to get the shoe,

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Speaker 1: It's now just part of the lore of that place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gone out. I have checked recently.

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Speaker 2: We can't start.

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Speaker 1: Now feeling hip hop. Try to stand up. We got

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Speaker 3: I remember playing at the bar. I remember Tony coming

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Speaker 3: They weren't that keen on you hanging around. I think

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Speaker 1: That I didn't know this people. I don't know anyone.

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Speaker 3: And then I just all I really remember is looking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is true. It's hard to deny with. When

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Speaker 2: know what, I might have to deviate to your this

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Speaker 3: Ruckus, I mean, the rest of it generally adds up.

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Speaker 2: I think that's an understandable thing to have some DoD

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Speaker 1: You got to throw the shoe. I get it. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that I find because often I'm in a similar situation.

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Speaker 2: It's you're always the sober person or the sober rest,

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Speaker 2: They're erratic, they're loud there, and then I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: like het it, but yeah, you forge, I forget. I

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Speaker 1: I think there's another part of stand up comedy where

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Speaker 2: for thinking about it, just because yeah, it's a different

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why comedians to get annoyed

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Speaker 1: That's part of it is. It's a very different thing

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Speaker 2: when that's when it falls away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, this is tough because public speaking is one

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Speaker 2: Oh, which is crazy to me. These guys seen a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is you know, people, how many times

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Speaker 1: give a speech.

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Speaker 2: Just the father of the bride with a piece of

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Speaker 2: a full paper shaking like a late chat.

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Speaker 1: GPT's written it for him. He's never read it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're going to hit a couple of

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Speaker 2: And that's when it's totally fine to hit a couple

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Speaker 2: of jokes. That chat GPT did right for you. I

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Speaker 2: reckon if you're a father of the briding, it but

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Speaker 2: the a four bit of paper, it's got to go.

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Speaker 3: The worst as a person that controls microphones for a

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Speaker 3: job is the people that speak with the microphone by

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Speaker 3: their belly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no mic control. That's that's one thing I

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Speaker 2: always school, no my control. These father of the brides,

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Speaker 2: they get up there. I will say this though, at

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Speaker 2: a wedding, nothing brings me more joy, Nothing makes me

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Speaker 2: happier than just seeing the.

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Speaker 1: Father of the bride really break down and tears. That's

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Speaker 1: it's the greatest. I like watching a speech that fucking crushes.

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Speaker 1: Every now and then someone someone does a real good one.

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Speaker 2: They get the right, especially if it's a non And

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Speaker 2: I said this a lot of friends with comedians. I

456
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Speaker 2: got a lot of like comedy winnings, and you kind

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Speaker 2: of expected. It's a weird turn to phrase, but you know,

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Speaker 2: you kind of expect the speeches.

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Speaker 1: You're like, you kind of just know they're going to

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Speaker 1: be good.

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Speaker 2: But then during a comedy winning when someone who's non

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Speaker 2: comedy affiliated and a civilian, and every now and again

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Speaker 2: you'll see it and they will just crush to a

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Speaker 2: room full of comedians, which is that's tough. We're a

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Speaker 2: bad crowd. We're a bad comedy crowd. That's the truth.

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Speaker 1: When you're like, you've done a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Your friends, and this is a good speech.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, we'll be seeking it afterwards as if it's a set.

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Speaker 1: Be like, man, there was a.

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Speaker 2: Great little yeah, a couple of little you try to

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Speaker 2: give them a few notes afterwards and saying this as well.

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Speaker 2: I also, as comedian, love watching someone bomb at winning.

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Speaker 1: This is what I was going to say. I went

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Speaker 1: to one a while ago and this guy stood up unprovoked.

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Speaker 1: No one had asked them to talk, and he got

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Speaker 1: up and he told like a five minute joke that

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Speaker 1: bombed the entire way along, and the setup was so

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Speaker 1: off color that it got a couple of gasps from

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Speaker 1: like Auntie's and grandmother. Oh. The punchline was something like

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Speaker 1: and then he you know, got his deck out of

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Speaker 1: you know, it was something so.

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Speaker 2: Just it's the classic mis understanding of a wedding being

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Speaker 2: like a twenty first I've seen the father of the

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Speaker 2: bride or the groom get up and tell like, you know,

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Speaker 2: war stories, and you're like, what occasion do you think

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Speaker 2: this is?

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Speaker 1: This is celebration. Yeah, and they're kind of like, oh yo,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think there's trying to be relatable or something, but

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Speaker 2: it's just a devastating story about how they were a

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Speaker 2: loser at high school.

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Speaker 1: I've had to do this. I mc to wedding and

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Speaker 1: we sat down the note before and we were looking

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Speaker 1: over my notes, me and my mate, and we both

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Speaker 1: sat there and we were like, we can't. You can't

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Speaker 1: say this. Like, his family's there, her family, some of

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Speaker 1: them might be meeting him for the first time, and

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Speaker 1: you're just standing up here flaming him about some shit

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Speaker 1: did eight years ago. Yeah, it's like that. Or they'll

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Speaker 1: bring up like past loves or something like this. What

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Speaker 1: are we doing? We don't mention Alicia to take it easy. Now.

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Speaker 1: We all thought they were going to end up get

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Speaker 1: we don't mention it bombing. What is it like to

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Speaker 1: bomb up on stage? How do you get past that?

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Speaker 1: Because I think that's the number one reason people don't do.

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Speaker 2: A hell of a time. I mean, you do it

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Speaker 2: more than you want to. But it's one of those things.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting feeling once you recognize it's happening. It's

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Speaker 2: like you know when you're in a car crash and

510
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Speaker 2: it's not as bad obviously, but just to give it

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Speaker 2: some example, and things seem to slow down and you

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Speaker 2: get like a sense of clarity, like it'll be happening

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Speaker 2: around you and you have that voice and you here,

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Speaker 2: you're like, holy shit, I am absolutely bombing up here.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you start looking around, things become clear. It's

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Speaker 2: like they're seen in the same in front of Ryan

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Speaker 2: with like the heartbeat, You're like, oh man, I'm eating shit.

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Speaker 2: This joke sucks, his crowd hates me. Whatever it is it's.

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Speaker 1: And then how used to it?

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 1: It? A bit? How do you? Because I imagine you're driving

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Speaker 1: home from a gig sober, it'll be all you can

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Speaker 1: think about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not great. It's I mean, you

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Speaker 2: don't want to be doing it too often. But it's

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Speaker 2: also just like comes to the territory. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're not bombing, you're not you're not really doing it.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 3: I guess as well. You know that if it has

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Speaker 3: worked in the past and that can't just be you.

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Speaker 1: It can work again. Maybe it's just the room. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's easy.

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Speaker 2: There's also it's real easy to blame the room, and

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Speaker 2: it's very easy to blame everything else. And I sometimes

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Speaker 2: you're just going to go you know, I was a

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Speaker 2: bit ship.

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Speaker 1: I was worried or like.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it will be like one exchange with someone in

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Speaker 2: the crowd where they will say something and then you'll

540
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Speaker 2: maybe coming too hard, you'll light them up, and then

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Speaker 2: everyone be like Jesus b or this guy so like

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, and you just turn them off. And

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Speaker 2: then I joke to work a million times in on

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Speaker 2: and sofferent and then that's when you've got to roll

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Speaker 2: the eyes back and just you just go through the motions.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean that's not not a bad option,

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Speaker 2: just to get it out and see if that Honestly,

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Speaker 2: to any comedian out there, anyone who's think about doing comedy,

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Speaker 2: if it's going badly, get your tock out.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great advice. I think it's great advice

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Speaker 1: for people in general.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see like an Oxtion here, like

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Speaker 2: the house isn't quite getting what they thought. They're like

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Speaker 2: sixty what about now they get their dick out him

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Speaker 2: and goes, oh, well nine hundred, yeah, yeah, I'm back

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Speaker 2: and I'm back.

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Speaker 3: And then use that for the gavel, just like bom

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Speaker 3: bomb bomb.

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Speaker 2: I that's you know, Ray White. I don't get anyone

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Speaker 2: out there listens, was Barclays is that one?

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Speaker 1: It's a bafoot and bafoot. There we go, J Hoker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much for joining us, Tony. Have a good weekend, mate,

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Speaker 1: no stress, and I'm looking forward to hearing from g

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Speaker 1: Lane on Monday morning. I want to hear this so

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Speaker 1: bad eight forty. Sit your alarms. Otherwise, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll see on Monday. Right, Yeah up enough, you're right,

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Speaker 1: yeah up, up right