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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy, ELM Drive with One New Zealand. Let's get

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Speaker 1: connected and you talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon. Coming upon the show today, Andrew Bailey,

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Speaker 2: whoa so he told a member of the public to

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Speaker 2: f off loser before pulling the L sign with his

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Speaker 2: fingers and he's now apologized. Get you across those details.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to one of the Aussie recruiters

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Speaker 2: who turned up at the Timaru meatworks today. And also

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Speaker 2: how about the black Caps last night. I will speak

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Speaker 2: to Craig coming former black Cap about that.

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Speaker 3: Heather Duplessy, listen quite a bit development.

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Speaker 2: This afternoon on the situation with the Solicitor General's go

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Speaker 2: soft on Mardi instruction. She has just in the last

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Speaker 2: few hours back down on it. She's withdrawn the guidelines

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Speaker 2: all together, as big deal because these guidelines are only

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Speaker 2: written every ten years or so has withdrawn them all together.

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Speaker 2: She says after reading and listening to the public reaction,

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Speaker 2: she realized that her wording missed the mark and she

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Speaker 2: is now going to review the guidelines and republish them

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Speaker 2: in time for them to come into effect at the

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Speaker 2: start of next year. Now I do not well, First

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Speaker 2: of all, good because that was wacky, But I don't

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Speaker 2: buy the story at all, not at all. The Solicitor

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Speaker 2: General is trying to make this sound as if it's

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Speaker 2: just a case of loose wording, and we have all

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Speaker 2: just kind of misunderstood what she was trying to say,

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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe she could just tighten that up

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Speaker 2: a little bit. It's not. What got her in trouble

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Speaker 2: is the line where she tells Crown prosecutors to quote

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Speaker 2: think carefully about particular decisions where a person is Mari. Now,

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Speaker 2: that is not loose wording. That is actually consistent with

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Speaker 2: what she goes on to say in the rest of

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Speaker 2: the document. At one point she basically says Mari a

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Speaker 2: special in New Zealand. She says, even though other groups

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Speaker 2: have suffered all kinds of forms of discrimination and so on,

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Speaker 2: Mari are unique. So those two things are consistent with

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Speaker 2: each other. It doesn't feel like it's loose wording. Also,

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Speaker 2: this is not a case of her just realizing in

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Speaker 2: the last few days that she's made a whoopsie. She

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Speaker 2: was apparently warned before she published the guidelines that the

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Speaker 2: guidelines were not okay. That is apparently why the Attorney General,

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Speaker 2: Judith Collins didn't write a foreword to endorse the guidelines.

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Speaker 2: Normally attorneys general do that. Judith decided not to do

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Speaker 2: it because she had already indicated apparently to the Solicitor

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Speaker 2: General Uner Jegosi, that this was not going to fly,

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Speaker 2: and Erna Jegosi published anyway. Now there is a very

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Speaker 2: public standoff going on right now between what normal people

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Speaker 2: think and what the legal fraternity thinks about whether one

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Speaker 2: group Maori, is entitled to special treatment under the law

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Speaker 2: in this country. This is a very very clear example

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Speaker 2: of how the legal fraternity thinks and how they have

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Speaker 2: gone activist on it, and it is also as of today,

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Speaker 2: a victory for public opposition to that level of activism.

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Speaker 3: Together do for ce Alan two is.

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Speaker 2: The text number. Standard text fees apply. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: get you across the Andrew Bailee details as soon as

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Speaker 2: we've got a minute. Just onto something else. Firstly, the

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Speaker 2: first part of the military style boot camps has finished

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Speaker 2: community with support for the next nine months. The Minister

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Speaker 2: for Children is Karen Sure.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Karen, oh hey, how's it going good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? So what does the support for the next

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Speaker 4: So each young person has a real detailed plan going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what are these people doing to help them?

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Speaker 4: So the mentors will be there to help guide them

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Speaker 4: This mentor will be there side by side working with them.

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Speaker 2: And how intensive is it? I mean, is it like

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Speaker 3: What are we talking about?

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Speaker 4: So that will be part of an individualized plan that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they leave the boot camp with a kitbag, right,

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Speaker 2: Would they normally not have those things?

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Speaker 4: No, And this is the issue. I mean, we take

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Speaker 2: Have you seen a change in these kids?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean it's something that I will not forget

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Speaker 4: for a really long time, just seeing the pride not

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Speaker 2: Really the manners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just looking you in the eye when you're talking

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Speaker 2: Now, now, the thing is, Karen, a lot of this

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Speaker 2: If you're around people who don't look at other people

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Speaker 4: Well, well, that's the whole point. The biggest focus is

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Speaker 4: massive change in how we deal with these young people

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Speaker 4: finding employment, going back to school, and doing the things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so when does the next lot come.

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Speaker 4: In so we're running this pilot. So fifth stage done.

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Speaker 4: Second stage is the community transition and also we've got

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey, thank you, Karen, best of luck with it.

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Speaker 2: Karen's your minister for children, all right, Andrew Bailey. So,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey went on one of those like ministerial visits

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Speaker 2: to a hold on why are you? Oh Andrew's coming,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Laura. Andrew Bailey is going to be on

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Speaker 2: that's hot news off just off the press, and this

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Speaker 2: is what's happened. He went to a warehouse in one

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Speaker 2: of those ministerial visits that you do. Sometime this month.

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Speaker 2: Somebody has written in to complain about his behavior. This

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Speaker 2: drinking prior to arriving. As he stepped closer, invading my

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Speaker 2: repeatedly saying the reason I was still at work was

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Speaker 2: the minister's assistant, marketing staff, and employees obviously at the warehouse,

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Speaker 2: He then continued to call me a loser over and over,

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Speaker 2: He said it but twice Andrew returned, insisting that I

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Speaker 2: I refused. Now credits well, I mean it's a bit wacky,

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Speaker 2: released the statement, so there's no there's no mucking around here, right.

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Speaker 2: I meant the comments in a lighthearted manner, but I

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I regret my actions. They fall well short

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Speaker 2: of the behavior expected of a minister. He's with us

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Speaker 2: just after five sixteen past four.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c

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Speaker 1: Bet responsibly.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Jason Pine and Weekend Sport hosts with me Now piny.

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Speaker 9: Hello, Hello heathern Any Happy birthday, Thank you, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing anything special?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm going out for dinner to night with the family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's yeah, nursery hours, nursery dinner or you can

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Speaker 10: I'm not having a rest home dinner. That's what you're asking.

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Speaker 10: We haven't booked for we haven't booked for four thirty.

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Speaker 10: If that's what you're asking, well.

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Speaker 2: That's not that unusual for for pearans of toddlers. So

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Speaker 2: that's what happy birthday, piny make you serve a very

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Speaker 2: good one. What about the black Caps last night?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 2: I mean that was I am? I'm still in shock?

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Speaker 9: Should I tell I was utterly lost for words? I

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Speaker 9: was at a function last night, phone off for a

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Speaker 9: couple of hours. When I went in, India were two down.

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Speaker 9: I came out and I looked at my phone and

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Speaker 9: it took me a while to work out what I

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Speaker 2: They'd be Heather, maybe Andrew Bailey needs to go to

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Speaker 12: And finally, your fired get out of here, your fire.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Trump He's going to win, isn't he?

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Speaker 2: thank you? And also so last night, right, so yesterday

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Speaker 2: I was looking at I think it was the BBC

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Speaker 2: had run some ABC polling or something like that, and

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Speaker 2: when I saw the polling in the swing states, it

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Speaker 2: was yesterday when I realized He's going to win because

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Speaker 2: her margin in those seven swing states is not big enough.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Democrats. We talked about this not long ago,

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Speaker 2: about four weeks ago. The Democrats were freaking out because

446
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Speaker 2: she only had a lead of four to six points

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Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. She now has a lead of less than one.

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Speaker 2: She's going to get walloped in all of these swing states.

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Speaker 2: That's as path the victory.

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Speaker 14: Well it is, and everybody keeps talking about this October surprise,

451
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Speaker 14: and here we are on the seventeenth, which is the

452
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Speaker 14: eighteenth over where you are right now, And I'm thinking

453
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Speaker 14: they've got about two weeks to pull that rabbit out

454
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Speaker 14: of their hat or you know, they're not going to

455
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Speaker 14: have anything going into the election to be surprised about.

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Speaker 2: So how much can we blame the guy behind the

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Speaker 2: Apprentice for Trumpy winning?

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Speaker 3: Well, he had this.

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Speaker 14: I got to tell you, this kind of shocked me

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Speaker 14: because this sort of came out of the blue. There

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Speaker 14: was an op ed piece that ran in US News

462
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Speaker 14: World Report today and he was the former chief marketing

463
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Speaker 14: guy of NBC News and been in the business for

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Speaker 14: fifty years. And he said, you know, we created a

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Speaker 14: monster that goes back to the Apprentice television show. And

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Speaker 14: he's talking about that basically, how mister Trump had a

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Speaker 14: tendency to exaggerate back then, which we knew he did.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I even remember when the show was on

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Speaker 14: here in the States. He would say, We've got the

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Speaker 14: number one show in America. And I'm like, I'm looking

471
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Speaker 14: at the ratings in front of me from Nielsen right now,

472
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Speaker 14: and it's number thirteen. And he questioned, you know the judgment,

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Speaker 14: how Trump liked to pitch black competitors against white and

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Speaker 14: he said, you know, I have to say that we

475
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Speaker 14: promote television magic on this We make mountains out of

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Speaker 14: mole hills. And he said, this was the biggest mistake

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Speaker 14: that I have done in fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, yeah, well you're gonna have to live

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Speaker 2: bit that probably again for another four years.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 2: How much is a slice of cake at.

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Speaker 14: Disneyland, Well, at this place is going to be twenty

483
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Speaker 14: two dollars for slice of cake from the shop that

484
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Speaker 14: now it's not officially owned by Disney, but it's in

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Speaker 14: sort of another nail in their coffin because they just

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Speaker 14: announced this week as well. In addition to this, Disney

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Speaker 14: is going to start charging four hundred bucks per person

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Speaker 14: per day if you want to get a pass to

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Speaker 14: go to the front of the line. And you're looking

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Speaker 14: at average ticket prices at one hundred and fifty four dollars,

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Speaker 14: and I mean I was looking at the number of

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Speaker 14: people that come over to the West Coast from New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: I mean are quite a few when they do come

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Speaker 14: to California, they want to go to Disneyland. But you're

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Speaker 14: looking at food prices now that can range from fifteen

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Speaker 14: to sixty five dollars. You're looking at parking that's fifty

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Speaker 14: or sixty dollars, hotel and airfare. A family of four

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Speaker 14: can spend one thousand dollars a day at that park,

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Speaker 14: and it's just not affordable. It's just not affordable. And

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Speaker 14: Disney is raising prices not only in its park but

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Speaker 14: on its streaming services, and they're cutting jobs with their

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Speaker 14: TV and radio divisions, and you're asking how long can

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Speaker 14: this go on for? I mean, it used to be

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Speaker 14: the happiest place on her if. That was a catchphrase

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Speaker 14: for decades, but I think it's become one of the

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Speaker 14: most expensive places for families to vacation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah quite, Dan, Enjoy the rec of your weekend and

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Speaker 2: we'll chat to you again next week and talk more

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Speaker 2: about Trumpy's looming When Dan Mitchinson, our US correspondent, heither

510
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is going to win. No way that idiot

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Speaker 2: Trump will win. That's what my cousins in the States say. Well,

512
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Speaker 2: your cousins say it must be true. By the way,

513
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Speaker 2: can just on on Mark Zuckerberg. This is apropos the

514
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Speaker 2: meta story where they fired a whole bunch of people.

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in the people being fired. I'm interested

516
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Speaker 2: in what's going with Mark Zuckerberg. Have you noticed that

517
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Speaker 2: he's had a makeover. He has changed his look. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there was a day where Mark Zuckerberg was the most

519
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Speaker 2: uninteresting person on the planet. He had sort of because

520
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Speaker 2: he's got curly hair, but he obviously didn't love it,

521
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Speaker 2: so chop it really tight, really short, and then he

522
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Speaker 2: just wear like a gray hobby that he could have

523
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Speaker 2: got from TIMU frankly, or like a T shirt like

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Speaker 2: I was just whatever boring, Well, not anymore. New Mark

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Speaker 2: Zuckerberg has grown his hair out. He's got his curly

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Speaker 2: little locks out there. It looks like some Roman curls

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Speaker 2: going on. And he wears these big baller oversized T shirts,

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Speaker 2: block colors. It looks good in the blue because he's

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Speaker 2: got the red hair, so that contrasts quite nicely. And

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Speaker 2: then also like he's some sort of a wrapper. He

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Speaker 2: wears a chain in a medallion now, and like for

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Speaker 2: a guy, you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be cocky enough to wear a chain, you're gonna wear

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Speaker 2: a chain that's sort of like it's there, but it's

535
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Speaker 2: a bit demure. It's not gonna hang too low. It's

536
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Speaker 2: just gonna sit slightly but underneath the teenage T shirt line. Ah,

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Speaker 2: not Mark Zuckerberg, not the new Mark. Newmark wears a

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Speaker 2: chain that goes almost down to his nipple line and

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Speaker 2: then has this gigantic sort of square thing hanging there.

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Speaker 15: About the right age for a midlife crisis, wouldn't he

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Speaker 15: hit it?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 2: I thought about that ends but he's only just turned forty.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, midlife, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: I thought a midlife crisis so I thought I thought

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Speaker 2: we were dealing more with a sort of like fifty

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Speaker 2: five sixty kind of break.

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Speaker 15: Sure, but once you've got the chain, surely that's like

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Speaker 15: a clear sign.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing the signs. I'm not gonna lie. I'm seeing this.

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Speaker 2: So maybe you are right. Maybe he's just having an

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Speaker 2: early midlife crisis because he started boxing and surfing with

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Speaker 2: his top off. And yeah, and the chain. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's no disputing the chain now when you start rocking

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Speaker 2: out your gangster chain down to the nipple. Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: a crisis, aren't you?

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Speaker 1: Quarter two politics with centrics credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payments, certainty?

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Speaker 2: Very Soper, Senior Political correspondence with US Now Barry, Hello,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon, Heather, Andrew Bailey.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's done a mayor corpomeo corpo, mao

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Speaker 7: exma corpa, hasn't he? Really, he's front foot of it.

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Speaker 7: You've got to say. Goodness only knows though, what he

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Speaker 7: was up to when he was at this warehouse.

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Speaker 11: I mean.

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Speaker 7: To tell a person that was there to take a

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Speaker 7: bottle of wine and go home.

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Speaker 14: And f off.

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Speaker 7: It's not the behavior you would expect of a cabinet minister.

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Speaker 7: And certainly that was reinforced by the Prime Minister this afternoon.

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Speaker 7: He said that he was disappointed by Andrew Balley's contact

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Speaker 7: and fell well short of what would be expected of

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Speaker 7: a cabinet minister. Well, Andrew Bailey he usurped the Prime

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Speaker 7: Minister because he wrote not just the company that he

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Speaker 7: had visited, but to the man that he had he says, insulted.

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Speaker 11: On the.

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Speaker 7: On the warehouse floor. So you know, he's really been

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Speaker 7: terribly contrite about it. But I guess I have spoken

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Speaker 7: to him briefly, but he said he was being lighthearted.

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Speaker 7: And I know you're going to talk to him after

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Speaker 7: five o'clock. But there are times when you can be

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Speaker 7: lighthearted maybe with somebody you know, but with a perfect stranger.

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Speaker 7: They could take it the ck.

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Speaker 2: And sort of see how this was a joke though,

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Speaker 2: Right If you go to the warehouse, there's one worker

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Speaker 2: there and you go, hey, listen, get a bottle of

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Speaker 2: one and go home. Nobody else is here, Go home,

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Speaker 2: you loser, don't work anymore? Like, you can see how

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Speaker 2: that could actually just be not intended to innsert.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. And look, Andrew Bailey, I know him very well.

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Speaker 7: When I was commuting between Auckland and Wellington. I'd have

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Speaker 7: on the old occasion a drink with him in the

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Speaker 7: Quarry Club. He's an awfully nice man and as the

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Speaker 7: most non offensive person that I've come across in many

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Speaker 7: a long year in politics, and I did sort of

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Speaker 7: wonder whether he was suited to politics because he was

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Speaker 7: far too nice for the business. This man is an

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Speaker 7: adventurer extraordinariy with some of the things he's done. He's

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Speaker 7: done the coast to coast three times. He's done Ironman,

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Speaker 7: He's dragged a sled to the North Pole and the

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Speaker 7: South Pole. I mean, you know, his background is incredible,

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Speaker 7: probably the most incredible background of any politician. But this

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Speaker 7: lapse in judgment I think is probably even beyond Andrew

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Speaker 7: Bailey when he reflects on it himself.

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Speaker 2: Barry, now you have been walking around telling us that

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Speaker 2: you think that Darlene is not gone. Well he's not gone.

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Speaker 7: You know, you would expect that the Greens, as they

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Speaker 7: did last night, wrote to the Speaker and said we

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Speaker 7: want the Wacker jumping legislation and vote. Now, normally that

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Speaker 7: would be a straightforward case. The Speaker would take it

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Speaker 7: on board. Although don't forget it's never been tested before,

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Speaker 7: so this is the first time it's actually been used,

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Speaker 7: ironically by the Greens who were so vehemently opposed to it.

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Speaker 7: But what I suspect is that the Speaker will probably

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Speaker 7: look at the Court of Appeal and she's successfully made

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Speaker 7: a bid for her case to be viewed by the

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Speaker 7: Court of Appeal on whether the Greens were right and

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Speaker 7: sacking her in the first place. Now, if the Court

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Speaker 7: of Appeal decides that they were, it could throw everything

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Speaker 7: into chaos that the Greens would be held in some

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Speaker 7: way to account. She's obviously outside the Greens now, but

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Speaker 7: who knows.

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Speaker 2: So are you saying because the Greens expect now that

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Speaker 2: they've written to Jerry Jerry's She's just going to take

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Speaker 2: it and start the process and she's gone, never mind

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Speaker 2: what the Court Appeal is going to do. But are

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Speaker 2: you saying that there is a chance that he will

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Speaker 2: pause because her case has already been accepted by the

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Speaker 2: Court of Appeals for the decision from the Court of Appeal.

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Speaker 2: Before he makes a decision, he has to you know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if due process is to be followed, he

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Speaker 7: can she's played again.

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Speaker 2: How can the news to Chloe because she was beaming

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Speaker 2: last night. She was thrilled.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think Chloe is naive and she's been naive

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Speaker 7: since the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Of this, Barry, this is going to be utterly devastating

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Speaker 2: to the Greens. They have to sit through potentially months.

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Speaker 7: It couldn't make them look even more foolish. And we're

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Speaker 7: looking today quite Do we have a court of appeal days? No,

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Speaker 7: we don't, so you know the way the court system

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Speaker 7: in this country. And maybe after the next election that

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Speaker 7: she gets before the Court of appeal.

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Speaker 2: Oh how good is that?

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Speaker 7: I'm joking. I mean it will be much sooner than that.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I mean she's dragged it out and

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Speaker 7: she's done it quite successful. But is it like three

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Speaker 7: Nil Tass disgusted the public and my viewers that here's

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Speaker 7: a woman hanging on in Parliament when she's got no

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Speaker 7: place to be there. Nevertheless, she's played the Greens at

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Speaker 7: what has been a fairly ghastly sort of vein, if.

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Speaker 2: You are right, such as the outcome of deliberative democracy.

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Speaker 2: N Barry, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Well, I

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Speaker 2: read the Political Week that was with you later. That's

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Speaker 2: very Soper Senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Is the Greens have met again, Darline Tanner will be

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Speaker 2: Walker jumped out of Parliament, which is, by the way,

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Speaker 2: was unanimous co leader for Brookers with us.

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Speaker 3: Is it possible you were wrong on the law given

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Speaker 3: you've now used it and seen its benefits.

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Speaker 6: That everybody should be open to changing their mind when

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Speaker 6: confronted with.

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Speaker 8: Complexity or information. That's humanity and.

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Speaker 17: What evolution is supposed to look like.

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Speaker 6: Mike, I feel really proud of the fact that one

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Speaker 6: hundred and eighty five dollarsates, having had their own star

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Speaker 6: and deliberative process, that all came to this conclusion. It

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Speaker 6: was a unanimous instantus, I think really demonstrates that we're

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Speaker 6: as a party and moving forward together on this issue.

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Speaker 7: Bank Monday from six am, the Mike asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 7: the Rain drove of the last news talk z B.

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Speaker 2: Quick update for you on the cricket. We're battling obviously

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Speaker 2: because the other side collapsed. So we're one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty eight for three at the moment. Heather On Darlene,

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Speaker 2: I suspect the speaker will actually do nothing until Darlene's

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Speaker 2: appeal has been heard in courts. She should be gone.

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Speaker 2: But somehow I suspect you will stay well. I mean

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Speaker 2: you'd have to consider that now that barriers raise that prospect.

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Speaker 7: Listen, I just want to talk.

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Speaker 2: To you really quickly about something that's going on with

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Speaker 2: the fairies right without a bit of trouble with the

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Speaker 2: fairies lately, and the most recent was the Blue Bridge fairy,

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Speaker 2: the connom Era, which lost power last month. That happened

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Speaker 2: on September nineteen. Blue Bridge has explained today what happened.

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Speaker 2: The fuel was contaminated. They don't know how, but they

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Speaker 2: know that it was, and so they've gone public with

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Speaker 2: the information now. Shout out to Bluebridge. Got on them

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Speaker 2: for doing that because it is a massive contrast to

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Speaker 2: what's going on with the publicly owned ferry company Kiwi Rail,

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Speaker 2: who have not to the state told us what happened

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Speaker 2: to the Artitida The art tet ran into the bridge

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Speaker 2: link span in Wellington, remember in August. It was not

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Speaker 2: long after just ran aground. So after it ran aground

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Speaker 2: and got refloated and then ran into the link span

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Speaker 2: a little while later. Anyway, the point of this is

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Speaker 2: that happened in August. So Blue Bridge tells us today

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Speaker 2: what happened in September. It took them four weeks to

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Speaker 2: tell us what happened. What happened with Kibi Rail is

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Speaker 2: ten weeks ago in counting, and we still have no idea.

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Speaker 2: We got in touch with Kihi Rail today they said, oh,

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Speaker 2: we put out a statement yesterday. We're like, go on,

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Speaker 2: then send it to us and they were like, nah,

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Speaker 2: we'll send it to you next week. And we were like, nah,

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Speaker 2: send it to us now. They were like, okay, hold

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Speaker 2: on as it come through. Now it hasn't gone through.

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Speaker 2: Oh key, we rail cob on now be like Blue Bridge,

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Speaker 2: be up frand it's refreshing any well, well keep you

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Speaker 2: posted on that one. Andrew Bailey next on the l

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Speaker 2: Sign News Talks a b.

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Speaker 3: M, pressing the newspakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: get connected, news talk.

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Speaker 3: Said, be.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. Seeingior Minister Andrew Bailey has apologized for telling

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Speaker 2: a member of the public to f off and repeatedly

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Speaker 2: calling them a loser.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 2: It happened in a ministerial visit to a workplace. The

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Speaker 2: worker complained, saying they were the only person in the warehouse.

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Speaker 2: And Andrew Bailey then told them to quote, go home,

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Speaker 2: take some wine and f off then called them a

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Speaker 2: loser for being the only person still working, and then

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Speaker 2: did the l sign with his fingers on his forehead.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey has with me. Now, Hey, Andrew, good evening.

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Speaker 2: Is that what happened?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Look, I don't want to necessarily get into who said what,

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Speaker 16: other than the fact that I had a brief exchange

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Speaker 16: with a person concerned and unfortunately he took offense at

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Speaker 16: what was said and to him, I've unreserveably apologized for

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Speaker 16: pacing him in that situation. It wasn't intended, but he's

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Speaker 16: It was lighthearted manner that we were discussing. It was

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Speaker 16: only for a few minutes, but unfortunate he's taken offense.

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Speaker 2: Yep, did you tell him to off and get some

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Speaker 2: wine and go home?

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Speaker 18: OK?

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Speaker 16: I don't believe I use those words, But again, I

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Speaker 16: don't really want to say I know, but it's important.

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Speaker 11: The issue. The issue more important is that unfortunately I

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Speaker 11: put him in a situation where you felt offended. Did

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Speaker 11: you do the outside of that situation. I shouldn't have

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Speaker 11: put him into that situation, and I feel very apologetic.

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Speaker 2: Did you do the L sign? Andrew?

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Speaker 16: Look again, I don't want to get into the details.

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Speaker 16: It is just what it is, and he's taken a

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Speaker 16: offense to what went on, and I have unreserveably apologized

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Speaker 16: to the person concerned, and I'm disappointed that I put

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Speaker 16: them in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Had you been drinking?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 2: Did this happen at a winery?

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Speaker 11: I'm not going to go until where it happened, but because.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out why the reference to the

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Speaker 2: bottle of wine and on in October, you visited a winery,

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Speaker 2: So is that where it happened.

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Speaker 11: No, I'm not going to say where it's happened.

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Speaker 16: Obviously we're maintaining confidentiality of the person concerned and also.

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Speaker 11: A place where it occurred. So I don't want to

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Speaker 11: go into that.

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Speaker 16: But I have been about the fact that the incident

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Speaker 16: took place, and I have written to the person twice

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Speaker 16: to apologize unreservably, and so that's where we find ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Did the person complain.

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Speaker 11: I was only aware of a few days later, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when it happened, So when was a

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Speaker 2: few days later?

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Speaker 11: But well, happened earlier this month?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So how long have you been aware of the complaint.

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Speaker 16: I've been aware of it for a while and soon

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Speaker 16: as I was made aware of it. No, no, as

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Speaker 16: soon as I made aware of it that I then

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Speaker 16: provided that we're setting out my apology.

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Speaker 2: When were you aware of it.

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Speaker 11: Earlier this month?

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Speaker 2: So why have you gone public with it today?

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Speaker 11: Well, the person has chosen to go public and so

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Speaker 11: we responded.

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Speaker 2: Have they spoken to the media?

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Speaker 17: Have they?

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Speaker 18: They have?

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Speaker 16: They have canvas a number of politicians about the issue.

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Speaker 16: And look, again, I don't really want to go to it,

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Speaker 16: but certainly they've made many people aware of the issue.

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Speaker 2: Well it's either Labor or the Greens or the Malori Party,

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Speaker 2: So who'd they go to?

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Speaker 11: Look, I'm not going to answer that. People can answer

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Speaker 11: for themselves. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So Andrew, I was giving you credit earlier and say, well,

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Speaker 2: at least your front foot of the thing. But you've

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Speaker 2: only know and you are. But you're only front footing

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Speaker 2: it because opposition MP's found out about it. No, no,

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Speaker 2: look the matter and you've gone about it for ages.

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Speaker 16: Look, I was made aware of it, I wrote to

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Speaker 16: the person concerned, the company was dealing with it, and

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Speaker 16: then the person concerned decided.

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Speaker 2: To go papaic on it was this going to break tonight.

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Speaker 16: I'm not necessarily I don't know when it was going

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Speaker 16: to break, but we've chosen to do it. I obviously

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Speaker 16: had written to him and unreservedly apologized to him, and

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Speaker 16: I've done that again twice. But obviously the person's chosen

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Speaker 16: to do what they do and that's his progative because

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Speaker 16: I put them in a situation where he felt uncomfortable.

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Speaker 16: And again I just say, I've apologize.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so as it stands, you're probably not going to

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Speaker 2: get the sack for this, right, but is there anything

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Speaker 2: else that we don't know that could put you in jeopardy?

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Speaker 16: No, and I've apologized. The prime minster to behavior's under becoming.

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Speaker 16: It wasn't intended to be hurtful, but obviously some second offense,

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Speaker 16: and I stand behind that my actions cause that offense,

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Speaker 16: and that's why I unreserveably apologize to them. So you know,

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Speaker 16: beyond that, I have had many hundreds of visits with

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Speaker 16: companies over the last ten years, and obviously this is

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Speaker 16: one where what was meant to be what was quite

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Speaker 16: a lighthearted conversation for a few minutes, turned into something

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Speaker 16: that's much more difficult than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew, thank you for having your chat to us.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Ever Dullen, the

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Speaker 2: closure of Timuruse Smithfield Meat Works is our loss, but

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Speaker 2: apparently Australia's Gain Alliance Group has confirmed that the processing

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Speaker 2: plant will close by the end of the year. This

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Speaker 2: means the vast majority of its six hundred staff will

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Speaker 2: be made redundant, but the Aussies have seen this as

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Speaker 2: an opportunity. Two recruiters flew across the ditch to try

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Speaker 2: and poach workers at today's meeting. Managing Director of f

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Speaker 2: S Alliance Wayne here it is one of them.

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Speaker 19: Hey Wayne, good morning, good afternoon. How are you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm well.

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Speaker 2: But this is a bit cheeky from you guys.

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Speaker 18: Isn't it.

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Speaker 19: Oh, well, a little bit of an opportunistic thing. We hope,

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Speaker 19: I hope there's a win win situation. But yeah, it

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Speaker 19: could be seen as a bit a bit cheeky, but

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Speaker 19: there's a good opportunity there and we've taken it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how many of these guys, have you got jobs

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Speaker 2: for Well, to.

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Speaker 19: Be honest, there are jobs over there for say at

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Speaker 19: least two hundred people. We haven't been very successful as yet.

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Speaker 19: We've just really started to talk to people today. But well, yeah,

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Speaker 19: we'd like to take anywhere between fifty to two hundred

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Speaker 19: people back with us eventually.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And what's the payrate like with you guys, compared

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Speaker 2: to what they it paid here?

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Speaker 19: Well, I would think would be pretty pretty much the

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Speaker 19: same when all things are taken into account, where our

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Speaker 19: top earners would be on about an annual annualized salary

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Speaker 19: of about eighty thousand dollars Australian and the starting rate

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Speaker 19: is around about fifty thousand. Maybe for a new entrant

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Speaker 19: worker it would be forty five, but forty five to

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Speaker 19: eighty thousand. There are fellows up there who are earning

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Speaker 19: up to one hundred thousand dollars. They're the eight grade

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Speaker 19: slaughter them and the boners. But all in all, I

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Speaker 19: think it's about the same same wages, cost of living

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Speaker 19: is approximately the same, so it's almost a fairly seamless transition.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good safe, it's better for them to get a job,

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Speaker 2: even if it's an Australia than sit on the doll Wayne.

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Speaker 2: So I'm pleased to hear this is wayn hear a

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Speaker 2: director of Australian Meetworks recruiting and training organization, and the

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Speaker 2: place is based out of Warwick. And I've got a

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Speaker 2: text from care And saying Warwick is a great place

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Speaker 2: to live. The guys will like it there if they're

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Speaker 2: okay to move. Good schools for the kids too. So

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Speaker 2: there you go. Quarter past admin staff must get really

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Speaker 2: tired of every second person asking them whether the lifts

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Speaker 2: are a or the bathrooms or how to get out

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Speaker 2: of the building. Well, you know what, very easily fixed.

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Speaker 2: Get better signage and speedy Signs are experts at this

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. It's not just wayfinding signage that speedy

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Speaker 2: signs can help you with. If you're, for example, a

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Speaker 2: fitness center, large format images of superfit people are a

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Speaker 2: great way to get your clients inspired to exercise. Or

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Speaker 2: if you're a school, how about getting some cultural artwork

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Speaker 2: professionally printed and installed. Or maybe a business is open

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876
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877
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878
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Speaker 2: Speedy Signs can help. Speedy Signs has been around for

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Speaker 2: more than twenty five years with nearly thirty locations nationwide,

880
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Speaker 2: So no matter how big or small your business, they

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Speaker 2: Speedy Signs dot co. Don z it will call eight

883
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Speaker 2: hundred Speedy do for Cee Ellen, King Charles and Queen

884
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 2: Camilla are set to touch down in Australia later tonight,

885
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: by the way, eighteen past five, which makes the first

886
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: visit of a king to Australia ever. Esther Anatalitus is

887
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: the co chair of the Australian Republican Movement. Esther, Hello, hallo,

888
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: lovely to be here. Thanks for chatting to us. Listen.

889
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Are they going to get a warm welcome, like people

890
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: are going to be fizzling to see them? Or is

891
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: this going to be a bit mere?

892
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 20: Oh look, I think there'll be absolutely be some people

893
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 20: who turn out.

894
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 11: You know.

895
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 21: It's of course nothing like the huge crowds in the

896
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 21: fifties when the Queen visited, and you know, we didn't

897
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 21: have TV and social media to connect us, you know

898
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 21: in other ways, but certainly for the Australian republic movement.

899
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 21: We say welcome, We hope they enjoy our country in

900
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 21: good health and happiness. But you know, it really is

901
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 21: time for us to look forward to a future Australian Republican.

902
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 21: Seeing this as the last visit of a setting monarch

903
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 21: of Australia and New Zealand.

904
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: It kind of feels like there are times where we

905
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: really get into that chat. But it doesn't feel like

906
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: one of those times.

907
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 20: Eh, yeah, I think it's you know, I don't know

908
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 20: about that, but here, you know, if people are busy,

909
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 20: customer living, yeah, you know, big discussions in Australia about

910
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 20: a whole lot of other things. But we find that

911
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 20: as soon as we start the conversation, people's response is,

912
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 20: oh yeah, it just does not make any sense in

913
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 20: this day and age that our head of state is

914
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 20: someone who is not elected democratically by Australians, you know,

915
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 20: who works for us full time. You know what New

916
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 20: Zealand and Australia have is a part time head of

917
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 20: state located on the other side of the world, who's

918
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 20: got all these other countries is responsible to as well.

919
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 20: Both our nations need a full time head of state

920
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 20: who is dedicated only to us and accountable only to us.

921
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing about him at the moment does he's

922
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: quite crop right, So he's traveling with the doctors and

923
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: the supply of his own blood and all that stuff,

924
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: and had to knock New Zealand off the the itinerary

925
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: because you just can't cope with the yea, the fact

926
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: that he's still coming to Australia says something. Why why

927
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: is he coming to Ozzie? Is it because he's trying

928
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: to stop you guys from getting too much?

929
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 19: I don't know.

930
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: Sway.

931
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 21: Oh, look, first of all, we of course, you know

932
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 21: again wish the King and Queen good health during their trip.

933
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 21: Cancer is absolutely terrible and something that a lot of

934
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 21: Australians and New Zealanders and people around the world suffer with.

935
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 11: It is just it's just awful, and.

936
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 21: Of course it just makes the person who is the

937
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 21: monarch all the more focused because we know that again

938
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 21: it is a role which is which is inherited by birthright.

939
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 21: So you know, we all wish, we all wish the

940
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 21: King good health when it comes to Yeah, I guess

941
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 21: that that that broader reception. We wrote to the King

942
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 21: earlier this year and asked for an audience, but of

943
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 21: course he's got you know, lots on. He's here and

944
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 21: said that that the future a strained the public is

945
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 21: a matter for the Australian people and that's absolutely right

946
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 21: when you know, when we've come together as a nation

947
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 21: and express that that's what the majority of us want.

948
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 20: As you know, research after research shows well it will happen.

949
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: Esther, look, here's some free advice. You need to get

950
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: rid of him out out of your constitution before the

951
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: next one comes along, because once he and Cater on

952
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: the throne, it's not going to be very popular. Thank

953
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: you for your time. It's Esther Ansalitis, who's the co

954
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: chair of the Australian Republican Movement, got a text here

955
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: saying Andrew Bailey MP did visit a specific winery. I'm

956
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: not going to name the winery because I don't know

957
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: if this is the winery and I don't want to

958
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: put them in the stock for what one of their

959
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: employees has done. But there is a specific winery that

960
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: he did visit on October the third, which which would

961
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: marry up with what he was saying in terms of

962
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: the timing that had happened at the start of the month,

963
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: and if he found out just a few days after that,

964
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: he's potentially, let's say October six, he's potentially been sitting

965
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: on the information for round about two weeks five twenty two.

966
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper Clan

967
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and use dogs.

968
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: That'd be cricket score two hundred and four for four.

969
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: We're going to be talking to Craig coming in about

970
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: twelve minutes form Mint blackp on how well the black

971
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Caps are doing now five twenty five. Can I just

972
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: say something about TMU?

973
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: You know, how how you know?

974
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: What I've taken from those reports that came out on

975
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: TIMU yesterday. It's not what the report writers will have

976
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: wanted me to take, because what they were warning us

977
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: about was how much nonsense we're buying and then sending

978
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: to landfill, and how the stuff is so cheap it's

979
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: got to be based on slave labor, and so if

980
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: you buy it, you're supporting that, and blah blah blah,

981
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. What I took from it

982
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: was that the TIMU critics can warn us all they

983
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: like and they can tell us about slave labor all

984
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: they like, and they can tell us about the environmental

985
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: harm from fast fashion all they like, all the bad stuff.

986
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, because the only thing that actually matters

987
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: is if you, the consumer, can get the thing that

988
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: you want for the price that you can afford. I mean,

989
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: that is why one in four key we adult have

990
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: shopped at Tiemu recently. It's why even the lady from Tearfund,

991
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: who was on the show yesterday warning us about Temu,

992
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: had actually bought stuff for her daughter's birthday party from Temu.

993
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: Because actually, nothing matters more than you getting the thing

994
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: that you want, not even slave labor, not even the

995
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: fact that poor people are like working one hundred and

996
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 2: thirty hours whatever a month. I don't even know, huge

997
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: huge numbers. That doesn't matter. You just want your stuff

998
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: for cheap. Now, this doesn't surprise me because this is

999
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: what I've believed for the longest time. Consumers don't care

1000
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: about anything else. When the climate change people warn us

1001
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: that we have to do the right thing by the

1002
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: climate or the European consumers not gonna want to buy

1003
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: our meat in our milk, I don't believe it. I

1004
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: do not believe it when they tell us that the

1005
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: climate miles on food are going to put people off

1006
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: buying our stuff. I don't believe it when they tell

1007
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: us that consumers are not going to buy the stuff

1008
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: because it's wrapped in too much plastic. I don't believe them.

1009
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: That's not what it's about. None of it's true. Just

1010
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: look at Temu. What people really want to do is

1011
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: be able to buy, for twenty six dollars a personalized

1012
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: caution with their dead, their families, dead cats screen printed

1013
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 2: on it. You can get that from Timu for twin

1014
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: six bars. For real. You don't need it, but you

1015
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: buy it because you want it and it's cheap. And

1016
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: that ultimately is why critics can warn us all they

1017
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: like about Timu, it's not going to put people.

1018
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: Off together do to see her whither.

1019
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: I have far more respect for Andrew Bailey following that interview.

1020
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: He's handled a situation where someone and the press seeks

1021
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: and political gain for what was most likely a two

1022
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: way equal exchange. I bet the complainant is a labor

1023
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: voter here that that was difficult listening.

1024
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 18: I was.

1025
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: I was willing to command Andrew Bailey for coming forward

1026
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: and owning it. But the way he handled the interview

1027
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: is odd. Bro, Why are you so cagey? Have some backbone?

1028
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: Answering the questions like a scared school boy makes me

1029
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: wonder what really happened here? Do you though now have

1030
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: the song in your head?

1031
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 22: She was looking kind of dumb with her finger, dumb

1032
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 22: in the shape.

1033
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: Haru on her for he well and then I don't

1034
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: want to make light of the situation because obviously somebody

1035
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: is rarely upset and have to go and tell the

1036
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: opposition parties. But this has been in my head now

1037
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: for an hour and a half, maybe two hours since

1038
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: I found out about it. Enjoy the Headline's next, We're

1039
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 2: taking the bat.

1040
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: You never know if you don't know, shine, if you

1041
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: don't glow.

1042
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 12: Hey now and our star did your game on?

1043
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: Go play the day's newsmakers. Talk to Heather first.

1044
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: Heather duples Alan drive with one New Zealand let's get

1045
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: connected and news talk z B.

1046
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 3: Hither.

1047
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: I was okay with Andrew Bailey's apology until you ask

1048
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: questions and then I refuse to answer them. I think

1049
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: you let him off too easily. I'm uncomfortable with the

1050
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: cabinet minister refusing to comment on questions of wrongdoing. He's

1051
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: only apologized because it's going to come out. Why not

1052
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: own it straight after doing it? H Did I let

1053
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: him off too easily or did you actually just get

1054
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 2: Did you actually get everything you need to be able

1055
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: to form an opinion? I speak? That's what happened there,

1056
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: don't you think? I think this is okay? Boss just

1057
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: wandered in and was like, is here something we don't know?

1058
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: Why's he being cage Why is Andrew being cagey? Like

1059
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 2: that's being weird? What's he hiding?

1060
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 11: Do you know?

1061
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he's hiding anything. I reckon he's just

1062
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: had some really crap media training, because that's what will

1063
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: have happened right before they would have decided they're going

1064
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: to go public with it late on a Friday. Come on,

1065
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: you can see through that. So they decided they'd go

1066
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: public with it late on a Friday, and they would

1067
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: have wheeled in schmooshmou who would have sat him down

1068
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: and given him like the Hella media training whoever they're

1069
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: using for the media training sucks. National Party change your

1070
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: media trainer. They suck because the right thing to do

1071
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: in that situation is not to say to Andrew. What

1072
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: you need to say, Andrew is when Heather asks you

1073
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: and everybody else asks you what happened. I'm not going

1074
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: to relitigate it because then you sound cagey and weird. Actually,

1075
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: the real thing that he should have done was to

1076
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, I did it. I pulled the L sign,

1077
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: I put it to my forehead. It was stupid thing

1078
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: to do. He should have just fessed up and said

1079
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: what he did. And if he didn't do those things

1080
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: and didn't want to dispute what the person had said,

1081
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: just go Look, I'm not gonna fight it about it.

1082
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: They said I did that, I did that, you know, like,

1083
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 2: just own it. Anyway. Now they've made him look weird,

1084
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: so they probably need to think about changing. Whoever it is,

1085
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: as I say, that's doing the media training twenty two away.

1086
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 3: From six Keller do for see Allen.

1087
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: Now, So the crack and how about that? The black

1088
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Speaker 2: Caps India Test has resumed in Bengaluru. After bowling the

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Speaker 2: hosts out for a poultry forty six in the first innings,

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Speaker 2: the black Caps are now sitting on two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fourteen for five. Craig coming as a form of black

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Speaker 2: cappins with us.

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Speaker 17: Now, hey, Craig, isn't the secret just to repeat the

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Speaker 17: question when you're asked a question? And one I one

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Speaker 17: of media training is that what you do?

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Speaker 2: You do you repeat the question and then do you

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Speaker 2: say anything else or just repeat it?

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Speaker 17: Well, you normally have a written statement that you've prepared

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Speaker 17: and you're don't you just repeat the statement, or you

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Speaker 17: have a couple and you bounce from one to the other,

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Speaker 17: from one to the other.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you give us scream, But are

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Speaker 2: you available, Craig to help the nets out?

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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, I mean that's interesting, like I mean, talking

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Speaker 17: on you know, talking to the media. But it's probably

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Speaker 17: something that you'd expect to be the first thing that

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Speaker 17: you get brought in. But's something I actually did get

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Speaker 17: taught when I when I started doing cricket and being

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Speaker 17: a player and being a captain. You get given some strategies.

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Speaker 17: But I suppose when you get a bit frazzled, you know,

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Speaker 17: like when you play the game of cricket, sometimes in

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Speaker 17: you get stuck. And the worst thing is when we're

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Speaker 17: talking to each other, if you get stuck, it doesn't

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Speaker 17: sound very good.

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Speaker 2: Does it, do you know what listening to this because

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Speaker 2: this is for free from Craig coming. How good is

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00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 2: the cricket? Did you see this coming?

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Speaker 17: No, no, not not to that extent. I suppose when

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Speaker 17: it rained on the first day and we knew that

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Speaker 17: had been under covers for a bit a bit, then

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Speaker 17: you know, any bit of a hope that we might

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Speaker 17: get some assistance. But I certainly didn't expect it to

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Speaker 17: be that. And New Zealand did it brilliantly. They played

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Speaker 17: Tim Saudi, they played three seemers and it did work

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Speaker 17: in their favorite a bold beautifully and you know O'Rourke

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Speaker 17: and mat Henry have been outstanding in Saud. You got

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Speaker 17: the first wicket, so the key is now they hear

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Speaker 17: that you always say it the next hour is the

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Speaker 17: most important, and they've done so far with the bat.

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Speaker 17: But yeah, unfortunately lost a couple of wickets today. But

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Speaker 17: if they can get that lee, they really would like

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Speaker 17: that lead over two fifty because that puts real pressure

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Speaker 17: on India.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a lot.

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Speaker 17: He's about the second thing. So we need to get

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Speaker 17: as many runs and you don't get many opportunities to

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Speaker 17: beat India, and in India, we've got to make the

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Speaker 17: most of this and this innings is really important.

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Speaker 2: So Matt Henry has just you know, bold superbly. Why

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Speaker 2: was he left out of the last couple of tests.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and that was the big question literally because I'm

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Speaker 17: not sure why they were with a row over room

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Speaker 17: because but I opted brilliantly. And that was the question

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Speaker 17: about Tim Saudi playing. He was the captain and you

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Speaker 17: know he had to be packed and obviously that changed.

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Speaker 17: You know, it was Audi stepping down probably probably saw this.

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Speaker 17: I meant, you know, we should have Matt Henry on

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Speaker 17: every side that we put out with el efforts. So

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Speaker 17: he's shown that. But I think they realized that and

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Speaker 17: that's the reason why Tim Saudi stood down. And we

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Speaker 17: still saw Tim Saudi bowl putting me well when the

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Speaker 17: conditions suit him. So but I've got it right. Unfortunately

1153
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Speaker 17: it took two test losses for that to happen, but

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Speaker 17: they're on the right track and I think we could

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Speaker 17: all forgive the losses in Schlanger win this test in Bangaloout.

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Speaker 17: I think, you know, it's a great way to bounce back.

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Speaker 2: So is there something like a captain's curse going on here?

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Speaker 2: Because now Tim Southy's not the captain. He's awesome. But

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Speaker 2: now now Tom Lathan's down for fifteen is out? What's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, I mean it's a huge job, it really is,

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Speaker 17: and you know especially and it's not just on the

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Speaker 17: field with all the decision making. It's it's in media,

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Speaker 17: you know, it's it's it's those things. It's all the

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Speaker 17: extra stuff that you have to do. It's the meetings.

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Speaker 17: You know, you've got to make sure the players are

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Speaker 17: all happy. Even though the coaches do that, as a

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Speaker 17: captain you've got to do that. So it's probably one

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Speaker 17: of the few sports where the captain still has a

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Speaker 17: massive influence on the game because you have to do

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Speaker 17: all the decisions. Out of them middle ninety nine percent

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Speaker 17: of them you have to come up with yourself or

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Speaker 17: your own mind. Whereas we've seen our in modern sport,

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Speaker 17: there are walkie talkies, there are water boys, there are

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Speaker 17: people running on and after your hand signals, there are

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Speaker 17: lights open. So I to get the fact though, so cricket,

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Speaker 17: the captain still has a major influence on how the

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Speaker 17: day runs and when you do it for the first time.

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Speaker 17: After having a break, you normally sit back in your

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Speaker 17: chair and you can't get up because mentally you're absolutely naked,

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Speaker 17: so it does wear on you. And there's nothing like

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Speaker 17: being in good form. And we've been pretty lucky in

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Speaker 17: the past with Brendan McCallum and then came win into

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Speaker 17: two players who perform brilliantly. But it's not an easy

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Speaker 17: job without it out, especially test because it wears you

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Speaker 17: out and it's tiring. And Tom Lincoln's got the heat

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Speaker 17: in the sun and the crowd, so it's a big tax.

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Speaker 17: But if you'll hand on it, he'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: Noll, good stuff. Hey, Craig, it's always good to talk

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Speaker 2: to you. Thank you, mate. There's Craig coming former Black

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Speaker 2: app by the way, on the news that the Israelis

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Speaker 2: have managed to nail the leader of Hamas Yaya Sinhwa, right,

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Speaker 2: this is the guy that they wanted. This is the

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Speaker 2: guy who masterminded the October seven attack. So the question is,

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Speaker 2: if you got your guy, can you let it go?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 2: Can you stop and talk to Robert Pattman after six

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Speaker 2: o'clock international affairs expert. He'll talk us through whether the

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Speaker 2: Israelis are going to, you know, maybe give the people

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Speaker 2: of Gaza a break. Eighteen away from six, the.

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Speaker 1: Friday sports Huddle with New Zealand South the Beast, International realty,

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Speaker 3: What to catch that is? Devin Conway has blocked one.

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Speaker 18: Out of there's still obviously the start for everyone here

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Speaker 18: at the club and the players, you know, getting to

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Speaker 18: know each other, which I'm sure that intensity will you know,

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00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 18: hopefully we can build a team that's resilient and again

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Speaker 18: start winning.

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Speaker 3: They get that feeling coming off your boat.

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Speaker 23: Wow, maybe that's the key we commentator in your mate, Okay, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Take that one on the churn and thanks buddy.

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Speaker 2: On the sports title with us this evening. Paul Allison

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Speaker 2: News Talks he'd be rugby commentator and Jim k sports journalist.

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Speaker 2: Hello lads, Paul, were you expecting the Black Cats to

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Speaker 2: do this? Well, the answer to that is obviously no.

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Speaker 2: Nobody was.

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Speaker 22: No, of course we were, and I think Craig summed

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Speaker 22: it up really well, like they got a toss at

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Speaker 22: winning their because Roma Sharma has come out and said

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Speaker 22: that he didn't expect to the play the pitch to

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00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 22: play the way that it did. After winning the toss

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Speaker 22: and deciding to bat first, and New Zealand took some

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Speaker 22: magnificent catches.

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Speaker 12: They were outstanding in the field.

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Speaker 22: You had that little clip with Conway, but Bracewell and

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Speaker 22: Henry also took some fantastic catches.

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Speaker 12: The bowlers bowled well and they got their just reward

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Speaker 12: for it.

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Speaker 22: Never saw it coming, and I think Craig was reading

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Speaker 22: my notes because I think if they do get a

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Speaker 22: two hundred and fifty lead at the moment they're just

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Speaker 22: coming up to one hundred and seventy in front with five.

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Speaker 12: Wickets left, you know, that'll be a really good position

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Speaker 12: for them. And they haven't beaten in India.

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Speaker 22: In India, I don't think since way back in is

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Speaker 22: it nineteen eighty eight, so it's a long time.

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Speaker 12: It's we've beaten them over there.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, Jim, I feel like we have got some

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Speaker 2: real questions to ask here about the selections that have

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Speaker 2: been happening, not just for the last few testa for

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Speaker 2: a little while now.

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Speaker 24: Yes, certainly seems that way, particularly around the bowlers, and

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Speaker 24: I think before that were revenger with the you know,

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Speaker 24: he was in and they're not in and those sorts

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Speaker 24: of things. I thought Craig made a really interesting point

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Speaker 24: about the rain on the first day and the covers

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Speaker 24: and the fact that it probably put a bit of

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Speaker 24: moisture back into the into the wicket, and people hadn't

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Speaker 24: really factored in him because we all know playing in India,

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Speaker 24: favorite spin bowlers, and all of a sudden the New

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Speaker 24: Zelland quicks were looking like they're playing in Hamilton, you know,

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Speaker 24: So that seemed to work in our favor. But I

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Speaker 24: agree with you guys, there's no way anyone predicted that.

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Speaker 24: And then you know, I think probably most of the

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Speaker 24: negative Nellies and I put myself in this thought that

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Speaker 24: would be sort of all out for a hundred, because

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Speaker 24: there must have been some some demons in that wicket,

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Speaker 24: But all of a sudden New Zealand's banned quite.

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Speaker 22: Well, did you at any mountain it started out there

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Speaker 22: certainly better batting conditions at the back end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, listen. I mean, it feels kind of naughty

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Speaker 2: to ask this, but did you think of match fixing?

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Speaker 2: Because the texts saying that Piny admitted it across his mind.

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Speaker 22: No, I didn't really cross mind because I actually watched

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Speaker 22: the game and I just thought it was fantastic bowling.

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Speaker 12: The conditions made it difficult for batting.

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Speaker 22: I don't think there was any match fixing there, but

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Speaker 22: you know, let finally have that conspiracy theory theory.

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Speaker 2: I've got to own it. I might have put it

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Speaker 2: in his head. Poor guy will take a break, come

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Speaker 2: back and just to take quarter to.

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Speaker 2: Right, we're back in the sports houttle. We've got Jim

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Speaker 2: Kaysen and Paul Allison with us. Jim, listen, do you

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Speaker 2: reckon any ols Can Mound to come back? Does it

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Speaker 2: feel like that to you?

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Speaker 24: We're also nervous, aren't We Just remember Jimmy Spirtle saying

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Speaker 24: you wouldn't want to lose it from here. Look of

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Speaker 24: course they can. They've shown that and winning the last

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Speaker 24: two races, so yeah, yeah they can. It seems to

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Speaker 24: me though, Heather and Paul and if you win the start,

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Speaker 24: you've won the race. And I don't know, is that

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Speaker 24: really what we want out of an America's Cup. You

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Speaker 24: know that you just got to win it in the

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Speaker 24: starting box and then it's all over because the other

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Speaker 24: boat can't you passed? You it's a bit of an

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Speaker 24: Eddie climax if we don't see any racing where there's

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Speaker 24: lots of changes of the lead up and down the

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Speaker 24: race course.

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Speaker 11: To me, it seems a bit flat ready. It's you know,

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Speaker 11: if you win a starter's gun, that's it.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 11: Paul?

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Speaker 2: I think he might have a point.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree with Jim.

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Speaker 22: I think that the start is so so important in

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Speaker 22: terms of the end result we've seen so far, and

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Speaker 22: also we've seen from any us that they're actually better

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Speaker 22: in the choppy condition. So I guess it might depend

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Speaker 22: on what we get tonight in the next two races

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Speaker 22: in terms of how those conditions are and whether they

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Speaker 22: can close that gap out or whether New Zealand sort

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Speaker 22: of almost gets that unassailable lead going into the weekend's activities.

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Speaker 12: I've still got the faith keep the faith either because you.

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Speaker 22: Know, I know that both of these and Ainsley and

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Speaker 22: Peter Berling, they're outstanding sailors.

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Speaker 12: But I've still got the faith in Peter Burling.

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Speaker 22: He's a wiley character, he's young, he's promising, he's got

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Speaker 22: a great track record, and I think we're going to

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Speaker 22: bring it home.

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Speaker 2: Phillip's just got bolded two hundred and twenty three for sex.

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Speaker 24: Carry on, Jim, I just think that the America's Cup

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Speaker 24: has lost the non fanatical New Zealand sports fan. Now,

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Speaker 24: so if you're a yachtie then I think you're still

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Speaker 24: interested in the America's Cup. But I think they've lost

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Speaker 24: the casual fan by last little while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you might be right because I

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Speaker 2: don't give a fath I'm not watching at all of

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Speaker 2: you guys watching.

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Speaker 24: I sort of watched the highlights sometimes in the morning,

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Speaker 24: but no, I'm not getting up whatever time it's on

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Speaker 24: to watch it.

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Speaker 2: Then Okay, listen, Paul. We've got two things coming up

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Speaker 2: this weekend that I don't know how it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson and Auckland FC call it for me.

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Speaker 12: Liam Lawson hasn't been in the seat so much this year.

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Speaker 22: In fact, I think since he's been about five years

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Speaker 22: of ages, raced pretty much all his life.

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Speaker 12: Every year he's going to go fine, He's going to

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Speaker 12: go better at each race.

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Speaker 22: I mean, he's got Texas this weekend, in Mexico and

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Speaker 22: Brazil and Las Vegas and Katar He's going to get

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Speaker 22: better as it goes on. It's great that he's got

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Speaker 22: that reassurance of six guaranteed races this year, and I

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Speaker 22: think he'll set himself up for next year. I have

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Speaker 22: such a promising young man, so yeah, I think he'll

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Speaker 22: go well Auckland FC. Isn't it fantastic to see New

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Speaker 22: Zealand teams both in this weekend, both at home and

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Speaker 22: the fact that there they have a twenty thousand tickets

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Speaker 22: sold already.

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Speaker 12: They just need to keep on winning.

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Speaker 22: They've got another game at home next weekend against Sydney,

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Speaker 22: then they've got Wellington in Wellington, so it all depends

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Speaker 22: on how while they go on the opening start, but

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Speaker 22: it's fantastic to see them there. And the other one

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Speaker 22: you forgot about is of course New Zealand women up

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Speaker 22: against the West of East tonight.

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Speaker 12: I actually think they'll win that and make it through

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Speaker 12: to the final.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a surprise, wasn't it, Jim? Because

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Speaker 2: the White fans were so sucky and now all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden they're in the semi finals.

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Speaker 24: They were awful, they lost ten on the chrot I

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Speaker 24: think it was, And yeah, you're right, now all of

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Speaker 24: a sudden they aren't there and looking good as well,

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Speaker 24: they seem to.

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Speaker 11: Found a little bit of form, so yeah, certainly hope

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Speaker 11: that they do that.

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Speaker 24: And just on on the Auckland football Yeah, look, they

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Speaker 24: do need to win KIV sports fans do follow winners,

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Speaker 24: but they need to do somehow capture what the Warriors

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Speaker 24: captured and that's that fan experience. And if they can

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Speaker 24: capture that fan experience, that people will keep turning up

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Speaker 24: to the games because you know something that super rugby

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Speaker 24: has been missing for a long time now, and I

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Speaker 24: don't know what the magic is, but there's a secret

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 24: source there that the Warriors had and a Auckland football

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Speaker 24: club can create that, then they'll go really really well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, and I don't know what

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Speaker 2: the secret sources either, but hopefully they can capture it. Guys,

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Speaker 2: it's good to talk to you. Thank you, Paul Allison

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Speaker 2: and Jim Kay's our sports hutle this evening, eight away

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Speaker 2: from six on your.

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Speaker 1: Smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in your car

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Speaker 1: on your drive home. Heather duple c Allen drive with

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Speaker 1: One New Zealand one Giant Leap for Business News Talk

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Speaker 1: as it be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, five away from six, fair point coming through on

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Speaker 2: the text just knocking off Sinoir is not enough to

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Speaker 2: call off the wall, right, because actually the whole point

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Speaker 2: of the reason that they're in there is not only

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Speaker 2: to have a crack at come us and try to

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Speaker 2: get rid of them, but also to get the hostages out.

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Speaker 2: And as long as there are a huge number of

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Speaker 2: hostages being held in Gaza, you've got to try and

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Speaker 2: get you guys back. So that's a fair point. So potentially,

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Speaker 2: I mean that probably that settles that. But anyway, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to Roberta, who, as I say, will be with

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Speaker 2: us just after six o'clock. What was it about Andrew Bailey?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to say, hither, this is the text heither. Look,

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Speaker 2: I've met Andrew once or twice. I'd say it's quite

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Speaker 2: likely he was joking. I think he was. I have

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Speaker 2: met him a number of times, and I think he

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Speaker 2: was joking. And this was taken the wrong way. However,

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Speaker 2: the guy called a loser appears to be losing grip

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Speaker 2: on reality. Now, look, what Andrew Bailey did obviously has

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Speaker 2: landed him in trouble. I don't think it's that big

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Speaker 2: a deal. I'm gonna be honest with you, because it

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Speaker 2: clearly is to me, at least, if you do not

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Speaker 2: believe that it was a joke, you have to at

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Speaker 2: least keep your mind open to the possibility that it

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Speaker 2: was a joke and has been has been taken the

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Speaker 2: wrong way. But the fact that the person has then

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Speaker 2: gone to opposition parties to complain about it means it

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Speaker 2: immediately raises my suspicions about what the person's motivations are.

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Speaker 2: And if you read the letter, by the way, which

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Speaker 2: I would encourage you to do if you're interested in it,

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Speaker 2: the Herald has published the full letter, all of the

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Speaker 2: stuff about how it made me feel so uncomfortable and

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Speaker 2: I felt graded and blah blah blah. That's all just

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Speaker 2: emo talk for basically, that's what you do when you're

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Speaker 2: trying to stitch together a case that you know you

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Speaker 2: have been wronged. The whole thing just feels to me like,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately Andrew walked into a room and made a joke

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Speaker 2: at somebody who is not politically keen on him, do

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like maybe votes the other way.

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Speaker 2: That's what that feels like. So for that reason, I'm

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Speaker 2: already starting to downgrade the thing. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's a big deal, but anyway, make up your own mind.

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Speaker 2: Telegraph has put together the ultimate list of the world's

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Speaker 2: best airlines. They have compared ninety airlines across thirty categories,

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Speaker 2: from leg room to punctuality. No, A New Zealand's not

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Speaker 2: even in the top ten. It's eighteenth, which actually, out

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Speaker 2: of ninety is not bad. It's not bad. Out of ninety,

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Speaker 2: Emirates comes in number one. Emirates comes in number one

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Speaker 2: because they say it takes every single box, nearly has

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Speaker 2: the largest number of double decker airbus A three eighties.

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Speaker 2: These are the things that people love. These are the

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Speaker 2: jets people love because it has most space and leg

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Speaker 2: room in all cabins, including economy. It's got one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixteen of these super jumbos. That's a lot, right.

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Speaker 2: Compare that to let's say British Airways, which has only

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Speaker 2: got twelve Business class if you can afford it on Emirates,

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Speaker 2: which I think is quite pricey. On Emirates actually never disappoints.

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Speaker 2: Comes with a chauffeur to drive you to and from

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Speaker 2: the airport. How good. First Class has the finest wine

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Speaker 2: list of any carrier, and showers how good. We can

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Speaker 2: all dream can't we talk to Robert Patman after the

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Speaker 2: News News Talks dB you there.

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Speaker 3: Are along out what's down?

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Speaker 1: What were the major calls and how will it affect

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Speaker 1: the economy of the big business? Questions on the Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with hither Duplicy Allen and my Hr on newstalksb.

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Speaker 2: Even in coming up in the next hour, Hong Kong's

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Speaker 2: come up with a very clever way of boosting the

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Speaker 2: domestic economy, which is to make alcohol. We'll have a

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Speaker 2: chat to Peter Lewis about that shortly. Barry Soper will

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01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: rap the political week that was for us and we'll

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Speaker 2: head over to the UK have a chat to Gavin

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Speaker 2: Gray as well. Seven past six now world leaders have

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Speaker 2: reacted to Israel's announcement that it has killed Kamas leader

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Speaker 2: Yaya Sinhwa, who's, of course the mastermind of last year's

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Speaker 2: attacks in Israel. US President Joe Biden said that the

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Speaker 2: killing of the Hamas leader is a good day for

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Speaker 2: the world. Ozzie Prime Minister Albow says he hopes it's

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Speaker 2: a turning point for the war in Gaza. Spokesperson for

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Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Winston Peters said that Sinhwa's death is an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to release the hostages, agree to a cease fire

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Speaker 2: and enable full humanitarian access. Now, Robert Patman is Otago

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Speaker 2: University's international relations professor and with us. Now, hey, Robert,

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Speaker 2: is this guy particularly I mean, he's obviously important, but

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Speaker 2: is he crucial or will he simply be replaced?

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Speaker 8: I think it's to be replaced. And I think that

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Speaker 8: the Americans and mister Peters foreign Minister, are hoping that

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Speaker 8: the death of the Hamas leader. Remember all the other

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Speaker 8: Hamas leaders have been killed as well in the last

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Speaker 8: twelve months, Will you know, turn the page create a

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Speaker 8: new opportunity. Kamala Harris, for example, said that the killing

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Speaker 8: Semwha would create the opportunity for a ceasefire and also

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Speaker 8: the return of the hostages. I don't I'm skeptical about

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Speaker 8: that because I don't think mister Nettigna who is actually interested,

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Speaker 8: deeply interested in the ceasefire. He wants the Hamas people

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Speaker 8: to give up the hostages and surrender effectively. And also

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Speaker 8: he's not just involved in Gaza, he's also involved in Lebanon.

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Speaker 8: So when I say he, I mean the Israeli government

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Speaker 8: led by Miss Netta who So there is a bit

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Speaker 8: of a tension here between the Americans and the New

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Speaker 8: Zealand position. Both America and New Zealand wants a two

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Speaker 8: state solution to the Israeli Palestinian conflict, and that's been

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Speaker 8: a position of both countries for a long time. Mister Nathaniel,

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Speaker 8: whose government does not want that, It does not want

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Speaker 8: the Palestinian it doesn't want the Palestinians to have political

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Speaker 8: self determination in any shape or form. And that's been

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Speaker 8: you know, mister Netanil, who's made that position absolutely playing

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Speaker 8: for a long time. So it's unlikely that he will

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Speaker 8: see the killing of Semwha as if, you like, creating

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Speaker 8: the opportunity to move forward into peace negotiations with the

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Speaker 8: Israelis and move towards a two states solution. Misterian Americans

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Speaker 8: still want it seems like this was I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, the Israelis probably want want to take credit for

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Speaker 2: finally managing to get the guy. But it sounds it

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Speaker 2: looks like it was just by chance, doesn't it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, sometimes be quite clear. You know, this has

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Speaker 8: been an intensive military effort by Israel over twelve months,

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Speaker 8: and they had devastated Gaza and this is a very

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Speaker 8: small area. The Gaza strip Heather with densely populated two

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Speaker 8: point two million, if you destroy more than sixty percent

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Speaker 8: of buildings in that area sooner or later. I know

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Speaker 8: that Hamas have a sophisticated networker tunnels, but the sheer

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Speaker 8: imbalance militarily is going to tell at some point. And

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Speaker 8: they have been able to kill almost the entire leadership

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Speaker 8: of Hamas. The problem is has this made Israel even

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Speaker 8: more Has this made Israel more secure? Or has it

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Speaker 8: generated the circumstances in which other variants of ham Mass

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Speaker 8: or even a younger leadership of ham Maas will simply rebuild,

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Speaker 8: regroup and strike again.

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Speaker 2: Is there a point in which Hamas, at least certainly

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Speaker 2: in this iteration of the of the conflict with Israel,

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Speaker 2: is there a point at which they go, Okay, give

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01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 2: up because we are so damaged, we have lost so

1513
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: many of our leaders, and too many of our people

1514
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: are hurting.

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Speaker 8: They're quite happy to have cease fires of Israel, but

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01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 8: they're not going to give up. Let's be quite clear

1517
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Speaker 8: on this.

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Speaker 2: Are those cease fires that also release the hostages?

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01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 8: Yes, they're given the terms for that repeatedly. You've got

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Speaker 8: to understand here, Heather, things are not always as they appear,

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01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 8: and many Israelis are very unhappy with mister Netanya who

1522
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 8: because they feel he's got a political incentive in keeping

1523
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 8: the conflict going. Many Israelis, particularly the families of the hostages,

1524
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 8: said that mister Netanya who wants the hostages released, but

1525
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Speaker 8: that's not his top priority, top priority, it's to keep

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 8: the conflict gate and stay in power.

1527
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Speaker 3: Charges Yes, no, too right.

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01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: So when the US is though that it's Israel agreeing

1529
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 2: to the peace terms or the ceasefire deal terms and

1530
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 2: Hamas is not, is that not true?

1531
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 8: Well, the United States has his position is puzzling because

1532
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 8: a they're generously arming a government which doesn't actually agree

1533
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 8: with the purposes which the arms are being used. So

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Speaker 8: I just said the United States wants a two states solution.

1535
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 8: Mister Neto has no day after. He just wants to

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Speaker 8: degrade and destroy what he sees as opposition to Israel,

1537
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Speaker 8: particularly in the occupied territories where Palestinians are present. So

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Speaker 8: there is a real tension there. And the United States

1539
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 8: has been making the case that has been largely ha

1540
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Speaker 8: mass blocking the negotiations, but they've also been frustrated and

1541
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 8: they've invented their frustrations publicly with mister Nettinau, but that's

1542
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 8: never been so frustrating that they would stop the arms

1543
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 8: to mister as government. What we have now though, is

1544
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 8: a real test.

1545
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 18: Will you know, with.

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Speaker 8: Sinoak gone, will have changed their position. I don't think

1547
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 8: they will, but let's wait and see. And also there

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01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 8: must be pressure on mister Nettier, who, now, with having

1549
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 8: destroyed the leadership of hamd Mass, his you know, in

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 8: a sense, his rationale for opposing a ceasefire maybe come

1551
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 8: being squeezed somewhat. In other words, people, the families will

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 8: probably up the pressure on mister Nettier, who now to

1553
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 8: get the hostages released, and if that involves a deal,

1554
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 8: do it. That's maybe their view having you know, because

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01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 8: after you can't have it both ways. You can't say

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 8: you've decimated ham Mass, destroyed the leadership, but you still

1557
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 8: must apply more military pressure in order to get the

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Speaker 8: hostages free. And that's the official position of.

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01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: But it's good to talk to you. Thank you for

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01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: taking the time to have a chat to us. It's

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Speaker 2: Robert Patman, international relations professor at a Tiger University update

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01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 2: on the cricket two hundred and forty three for seven.

1563
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: New Zealand is running as leading by close to two

1564
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: hundred runs. It's one hundred and ninety seven runs, just

1565
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: a little way to go, and then we're sitting pretty

1566
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Speaker 2: on a lead of two fifty. Look, it looks like

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Speaker 2: we've got the first of the big power price rises

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Speaker 2: for the consumers that I've been warning you that are coming.

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Speaker 2: It's Contact Energy. So these guys have announced that from

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Speaker 2: December they are going to be charging us more if

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Speaker 2: you are a Contact Energy consumer customer. The average customer

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: will pay five dollars a week more. Now that doesn't

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: sound like a lot. They're making it deliberately sound like

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01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: it isn't a big deal. It Actually it's going to

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01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: add out bay over the year because they're saying, if

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Speaker 2: you normally pay fifty bucks a week, it's going to

1577
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: be fifty five. Hope pays fifty bucks for their pet

1578
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 2: their power, Come on, give me a break. So if

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01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: you're paying so it's basically ten percent more. Whatever your

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01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: bill is, it's ten percent more. So if you pay

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks over summer, it's going to

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01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: be one hundred and sixty five. To do my math.

1583
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 2: So one hundred and sixty five. If you pay two

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01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: hundred bucks a month, it's going to be two twenty.

1585
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: If you are unfortunately paying like five hundred bucks a

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: month for you for your energy, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: five fifty over a year. All of that adds up

1588
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: to quite a lot. But I also can't quite lay

1589
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: the blame at consumer at contact feet. I mean, people

1590
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: are gonna be angry because these guys just made her

1591
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: like a massive profit like everybody else in the last year.

1592
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: But unfortunately power prices are going up. They are going

1593
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: to pass it on to us. Transmission costs are going up,

1594
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 2: they are going to pass that on to us. So

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: that's all it is, is basically all the stuff that's

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01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: been happening with the mills and all that stuff, she's

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: happening to us now sixteen past six.

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Speaker 3: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to

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Speaker 1: my HR, the HR platform for SME on US talksb.

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Speaker 2: Right coming up, nineteen past six. Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent,

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01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: rapping the political week that was. Welcome back, Barry, Hello again,

1603
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: what did I say? What did I say the Greens

1604
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: were going to regret taking her on because she will

1605
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 2: actually win in the well. Why she won't win in

1606
01:15:58,760 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: the end, she will make it hard.

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Speaker 7: Like I said earlier, she won't win in the end.

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: She will make it hard for that.

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01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 7: But as I've said all along too, that they will

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01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 7: use the Wacker jumping legislation, and that's what they are doing. Normally,

1611
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 7: you'd have to give somebody like Darling Tana twenty one

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 7: days notice and give her that twenty one days to

1613
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 7: decide on what she's going to do. But she usurped

1614
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 7: them by going to the Court of Appeal. The Court

1615
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 7: of Appeal has accepted her decision, so her case, yes, sorry,

1616
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 7: her case, it's all up in the air now and

1617
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 7: that's the problem. So I would imagine, as I said earlier,

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01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 7: don't expect her to walk on Tuesday, so she's padded

1619
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 7: it out for a bit longer. Made it even more

1620
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 7: embarrassing for the Greens, even though Chloe Swarbrick came out

1621
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 7: very impressive and said that you know, we had to

1622
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 7: eat humble Pie and we're back down. Of course they

1623
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 7: had to eat humble Pie. Of course this was going

1624
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 7: to happen in the end. But I'll tell you what

1625
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 7: the central ingredient to this whole story. The full report

1626
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 7: on Darlentana has not been released.

1627
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: And what did I say to you at the very

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,440
Speaker 2: start of all of this, Barry, I am very suspicious

1629
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: of that. I want to see that report. Why if

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01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: I have the.

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 7: Courage of their conviction, this wonderful Green Party, why haven't

1632
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 7: we seen the color of that report. We've seen the

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 7: executive summary. But as we know, and many reports that

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 7: are written in this place, executive summaries are not enough.

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01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 7: You've got between the lines.

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm loath to raise this with you because you know

1637
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: you've got a dodgy ticker.

1638
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 3: But you want to talk about Justinda again.

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01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 7: Well, I found it interesting that Jasinda Dern, who's a

1640
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 7: die was was I say, a die hard Republican, goes

1641
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 7: to her mate, Prince William to get her knighthood, a

1642
01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 7: knighthood obviously bestowed by her Labor Party colleague before they

1643
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 7: were thrown out of office at the last election, and

1644
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 7: didn't even have the common decency.

1645
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 10: To come back and get it come here to govern

1646
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 10: that house.

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 7: Perhaps she felt too guilty in receiving it. Nevertheless, she's

1648
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 7: accepted the accolade and well, now I'll go around the world,

1649
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 7: no doubt using it.

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 2: Mark Sainsbury's on the huddle with me yesterday and he

1651
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: made such an excellent point where he says to me, yeah, saying,

1652
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: so this is what he said. He said, Remember, Helen

1653
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: Clark never took it, right, and it's a rite of passage.

1654
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: They all say that they're alway the right of passage

1655
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 2: for primaries, okay, but Helen never took it because Helen

1656
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 2: was a woman of principle and the contrast between Helen

1657
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: the woman of principles and just Cinder the flake could

1658
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 2: not be greater than on the subject.

1659
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 7: Right, Absolutely, that's very true that Clark always declared herself

1660
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 7: a Republican. Remember she was told off, strictly told off

1661
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 7: for wearing trousers in front of the Queen when she

1662
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 7: is at a banquet at the Beehive and forgot to

1663
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 7: say there was a slack suit as they called it

1664
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 7: in those days. And you know, I thought she was

1665
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 7: too perfectly entitled to wear it, but all the royalists

1666
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 7: said it's an insult.

1667
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Speaker 2: But the point is she had the courage, the pointers.

1668
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: If you want, if you want, people to respect you

1669
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: behave like Helen Right, have some principles. Look do you

1670
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 2: think do you think have you thought much about whether

1671
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 2: Chris Luxe is out of touch or something else is

1672
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: going on here?

1673
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 7: No, I don't think he's out of touch. I think

1674
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 7: you know, the Paul Buggers tried as hard as he

1675
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 7: possibly can to relate to the public and I wrote

1676
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 7: a column I think several weeks ago saying that he's

1677
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 7: got to learn to be more relatable to the public.

1678
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 7: And the problem is because the media are fixated on

1679
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 7: this man's wealth, as they are with Old Albow buying

1680
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 7: his cliff top mansion in Australia. I mean, if you

1681
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 7: had a prime minister that was he would be praised

1682
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 7: for getting where he is today.

1683
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: But wealth is the problem because a problem for JK.

1684
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 7: No, it wasn't, but then he made fun of his

1685
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 7: wealth and you know, he was more of a joker

1686
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 7: than what he's more earnest and his boardroom earnest, and

1687
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 7: that's the problem. But if you look at the opinion

1688
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 7: polls in terms of preferred prime minister, I mean he's

1689
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 7: very low down at twenty five percent. That was down

1690
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 7: three points on the TV one Valerian Pole.

1691
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: But then you look at Valerian Varian, very valarian.

1692
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Speaker 7: I think some people need it. And if you look

1693
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 7: at Chris Hopkins, the man who has put one thousand

1694
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 7: dollars on it this week that he will be the

1695
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 7: prime minister after the next election, I think he's got

1696
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 7: to read the polls, not only his own personal polls,

1697
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 7: but those of the Labor Party as well, that the

1698
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 7: notion that they'll be back at the next election is fanciful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Barry So

1700
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: for senior political correspondent rapping the week. That was same

1701
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: here though with Jim Bolger, who was a Republican. Very

1702
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: good point. Both Jim Bolger and Helen Clark Republicans turned

1703
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: down the honors. Everybody else happy to take it.

1704
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 3: Sex twenty four crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1705
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: It's Heather duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to

1706
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Speaker 1: my HR, the HR solution for busy smys on news talks.

1707
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Speaker 18: FBI.

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01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 2: Heither who is paying Darleen's legal costs? So I hope

1709
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 2: it's not us the taxpayers, Alice, this is the best

1710
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: bit of the whole story. No, it's not us. It's

1711
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: a Green Party donor. So somebody in the Greens is

1712
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: not happy with what the Greens are doing to Darlene.

1713
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: It's somebody rich and they have decided to back back.

1714
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: They've decided to back Darlin against their own party. It

1715
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: just makes me so happy. Anyway, listen to this, Okay,

1716
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: following our discussion from yesterday about how we feel about

1717
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 2: to sind to Ardoum because of what she did to

1718
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: the country, I was having abt to surf around the

1719
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 2: internet today and I spotted on kywe blog they've published

1720
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: an overview of what's happened to our economy in the

1721
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 2: last six years between twenty seventeen twenty eighteen when Labour

1722
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: took over, and twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So it's basically, this is what Labour did to the economy.

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Speaker 2: Get a load of this is if she triggers you,

1725
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 2: this is going to make it even angrier. Crown revenue

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01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: went from one hundred and ten billion to one hundred

1727
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: and sixty seven billion because they started taxing us more.

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01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: Tax revenue went from eighty billion to one hundred and

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01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: twenty billion because they're taxing us more. Crown expenditure went

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01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: from one hundred and four billion to one hundred and

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01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: eighty billion. That is how much more money they are

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01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: spending one hundred and four billion to one hundred and

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01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: eighty billion. The surplus went from five point five bill

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01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 2: to minus thirteen bill. Residual cash went from one point

1735
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: three bill to minus nineteen bill, Operating balance went from

1736
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: eight point four bill to minus eight point four billion.

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01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: Core crown gross debt went from eighty eight billion to

1738
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy six billion that's thirty percent of

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01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: GDP to forty five three percent of GDP. So enjoy

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01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: your dame hood headline.

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Speaker 1: Next, whether it's macro, micro or just playing economics, it's

1742
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Speaker 1: all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplessy Allen and

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01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: my HR the HR solution for busy SMEs USTALKSB member.

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Speaker 2: You say, generally I don't always agree with Auntie Helen,

1745
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: but I've always respected her. I think that's what you can.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what you want when you're a prime

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01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: minister of a country, right. You don't want people to

1748
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 2: People aren't always going to agree with everything you do,

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01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: but you just want to have their respect, and she

1750
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: certainly had that didn't she of all the prime ministers

1751
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: in living memory, wouldn't you say she's the one that

1752
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: garners the most respect. Listen, just a little update on

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01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 2: on Liam Paigne. A few things about his death yesterday.

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01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 2: Prosecutors think that this is interesting. Prosecutors think that he

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01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 2: was alone at the time of his death, but they're

1756
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: still treating his death as suspicious, and that's because they

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01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: can't quite explain why he didn't try to break his fall.

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01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 2: So he's got no defensive injuries on his hands. Now, Normally,

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01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: if you're falling, that's apparently what would happen is that

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01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 2: you would adopt some sort of a reflexive posture to

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Speaker 2: try to protect yourself. But he didn't, which suggests that

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01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: he might have fallen in either a semi or totally

1763
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: unconscious state, in which case, if you're semi or totally unconscious,

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01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 2: how did you fall? Do you know what I mean?

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01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: So that's why they are leaving that open as a

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01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: suspicious element. Also, photographs have now emerged of the state

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Speaker 2: of his hotel room, right, and it's pretty messy in there.

1768
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a TV screen that looks like it's

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01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 2: been punched or something. Because it is just it's really

1770
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: messed up and tinfoil lying all over the ground with

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01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 2: burn marks and stuff which suggests drugs were being used

1772
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: in there's powder all over the shop and wine glass

1773
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: and candle wax and all that kind of stuff. But

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01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: now the problem is, Okay, how did the photos come out?

1775
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: And it appears they probably have been taken by hotel employees,

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01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: which is not that cool, but also does raise some

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01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: questions once again about journalistic ethics here. Yesterday, yesterday TMZ

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01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 2: was in trouble for publishing photographs of his body after

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01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 2: he fell, and today you've got the photographs of the

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Speaker 2: inside of his hotel room. So there's real questions about

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Speaker 2: where the journos are actually being ethical here. Twenty two

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Speaker 2: away from.

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Speaker 3: Seven Heither duper Cel.

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Speaker 2: Peter lewis our Asia business correspondents with us Hap Piter.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Heather, Yes, a bit of a bummer about

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Speaker 2: the imports and exports numbers out of China.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, And it's important for China because trade has

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01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 13: really been one of the few bright spots in the

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01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 13: economy overall over the last few quarters, but it's slowed drastically. Exports,

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01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 13: who are two point four percent, and that compares to

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01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 13: almost nine percent in the previous month. Imports have almost

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 13: completely stored. They barely barely rose at all. Not too

1793
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 13: difficult to find. Where the culprit for this is Exports

1794
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 13: to the European Union and the US marks their slowest

1795
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 13: rise in at least four months, and that's because of tariff's.

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Speaker 13: Tariff's are having their effects. The model at the moment

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Speaker 13: for China's economy is to direct a lot of resources

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01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 13: into what President Chigenpin caused new productive forces, and he

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01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 13: means by that things like electric vehicles, solar panels, batteries

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Speaker 13: and so on. A lot of money being poured into

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Speaker 13: companies in those sectors and the result is they're producing

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01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 13: far more than the Chinese themselves can consume, so that

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01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 13: excess needs to be exported overseas. Now, in previous years

1804
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 13: that would have been welcomed because it helps keep prices

1805
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 13: dow're not welcome anymore. The EU and the US are

1806
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 13: pushing back mightily against that with tariffs. Donald Trump has

1807
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 13: said he doesn't want to see one single Chinese car

1808
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 13: sold in the US, and he's going to put tariffs

1809
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 13: on them high to make sure that that happens, So

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Speaker 13: this is having an impact on the overall economy. We

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01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 13: just had, in fact, this morning China's GDP figures out

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Speaker 13: for the third quarter and they slowed from four point

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01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 13: seven percent to four point six percent, So already signs

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01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 13: that it's having an impact. And this is why we're

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01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 13: seeing this raft of announcements from all sorts of government

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Speaker 13: departments about stimulus and money being used to try and

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Speaker 13: support the Chinese economy, to try and revive the property market,

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Speaker 13: which has been in a slump for over three years now,

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01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 13: and to try and also deal with all the bad

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01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 13: debts that are on the balance sheets of local governments

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01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 13: because they bought they've taken on so much in the

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Speaker 13: property sector. So it's having an impact throughout the Chinese economy.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of there's some profit number that's

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01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: just come out of TSMC.

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Speaker 13: Oh, it's very very good, isn't it? Surged fifty four

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Speaker 13: percent reported a net profit of ten point one billion

1827
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Speaker 13: US dollars. What this shows is just how important Taiwan

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Speaker 13: is in the global supply chain these days, because it

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Speaker 13: is the largest chip maker in the world. All the

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Speaker 13: big chip designers and manufacturers like Navidia are clients of TSMC,

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Speaker 13: and it's making a huge amount of chips that are

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Speaker 13: driving all this investment in artificial intelligence, and it's really

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Speaker 13: been supported by chips that are needed for this AI boom,

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Speaker 13: and TSMC is the leading manufacturer of these chips. And

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Speaker 13: the results are come at an important time because there

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Speaker 13: has been some fears that the AI boom is slowing,

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Speaker 13: particularly after we had results earlier last week from ASML,

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Speaker 13: which is the Dutch company that supplies the machines that

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Speaker 13: are used to make the world's most involved ships. They

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01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 13: reported orders that were about half of analysts expectations, so

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Speaker 13: there was a fear that the semiconductor boom was slowing,

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Speaker 13: but these results from TSMC have rather allaid those fears.

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Speaker 13: It's also I'm sure going to attract the attention at

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01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 13: some point to Donald Trump because he doesn't like things

1845
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 13: being exported from overseas that are made overseas, and of

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01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 13: course Taiwan is a massive exporter of these chips. Although

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01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 13: it is investing a huge amount of money in Arizona

1848
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 13: to build up some plants there, it's got three that

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01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 13: it's building at the moment that I suspect Taiwan is

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01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 13: going to fall at some point into the cross hairs

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Speaker 13: of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Well probably undoubtedly. Hey, this idea from Hong Kong of

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01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 2: boosting the domestic economy by making alcohol cheaper, is it

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01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 2: actually work?

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Speaker 13: Yes, well, we wonder can Hong Kong drink any more?

1856
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Speaker 13: What this is about is about a tax on liquor.

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Speaker 13: There is a one hundred percent tax on liquor at

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01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 13: the moment that is going to be cut so that

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01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 13: it's just fifteen percent, So it takes it back to

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Speaker 13: levels of about ten or more years ago. But it's

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Speaker 13: only on liquor where where there's a price of two

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Speaker 13: hundred Hong Kong dollars of an import price of two

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Speaker 13: hundred dollars. So the Financial Secretary said, it means that

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Speaker 13: eighty five percent of duties are going to be unchanged.

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01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 13: But nevertheless, the hope is that this will help boost tourism,

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Speaker 13: which has been decimated since the pandemic. And about seventy

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01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 13: percent of bar owners have reported very sharp drops in

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01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,919
Speaker 13: revenues because tourists aren't coming and locals aren't going out anymore.

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Speaker 13: And there's been a huge number of bars in Hong

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Speaker 13: Kong which have closed down in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 13: So the hope from the Chief Executive in his policy

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Speaker 13: address this week where he announced this is that it's

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01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 13: going to give a boost to the tourism sector. That

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01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 13: the problem is Hong Kong needs to find some new

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01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 13: areas where it can boost growth because these traditional areas

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01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 13: like property, like shipping, like tourism and retail are just

1877
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 13: not working at the moment. The economy has changed. Hong

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01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 13: Kongers aren't spending as much in Hong Kong. They're going

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01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 13: over the border to Shenzen to spend their money where

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01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 13: it's far cheaper. So Hong Kong can't rely on these

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01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 13: traditional sectors anymore to be a driver of growth in

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01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 13: the way they used to be in previous years.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating. Peter, Thanks so much, man. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you in a week's time. Again. It's Peter Lewis as

1885
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 2: your business correspondent. We are one. If you were listening

1886
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: to the sports tittle before, you would have heard that.

1887
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 2: Both boys said, what we need to do is get

1888
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 2: to two hundred and fifty runs ahead of India, and

1889
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 2: we've just done it already. Comfortable. Now, this is going

1890
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: to put the pressure on India. So we're two nine

1891
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: six they were bowled for forty six, two fifty ahead.

1892
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: We win well, I mean, you know it's cricket, it's

1893
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: a Test match. We don't win, but we're gonna win,

1894
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: aren't we.

1895
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Quarter to two everything from SMEs to the big corporates,

1896
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Hither Duper cls and my HR

1897
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: the HR Solution for Busy SMS on News Talk z IB.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I've got to tell you what one

1899
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,799
Speaker 2: of Labour's MP's has been up to. That's quite hilarious. Secondly,

1900
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: somebody's asked me what does probably undoubtedly actually mean. It

1901
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: means nothing. It means it's Friday. It means it's Friday

1902
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: and it's after six o'clock and go easy twelve away

1903
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 2: from seven. Gavin Gray UK correspondens with me, Now, hey, Gavin,

1904
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: Hi there. Yes, So we've heard from all of the

1905
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 2: members now of One Direction, have we?

1906
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 3: Yes.

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01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 23: It was a joint statement that's been put out by them.

1908
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 23: There was some some commentary about why we hadn't heard

1909
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 23: from many of them, but it was signed by the

1910
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 23: remaining members of One Direction. Louis Tomlinson's Malec Nile Horn

1911
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 23: and Harry's styles about the death, of course, of thirty

1912
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 23: one year old Liam Payne, the former bandmate in Argentina.

1913
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 23: The statement said in time and when everyone is able to,

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01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 23: there will be more to say, but it just says

1915
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 23: that they are completely devastated about the passing of their

1916
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 23: band member, and earlier Liam Payne's family said they were

1917
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 23: heartbroken and paid tribute to the kind, funny and brave soul,

1918
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 23: saying we are supporting each other the best we can

1919
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 23: as a family and asked for privacy in space at

1920
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 23: this awful time. But privacy is going to be difficult,

1921
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 23: shall I say, because the media interest is absolutely massive

1922
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 23: in this. It was reported as well that one crew

1923
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 23: in Argentina had managed to film the body being taken

1924
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 23: away and had put that on their website that was

1925
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 23: then deleted from their website. So yeah, this is going

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Speaker 23: to be very difficult for a few days. I think

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Speaker 23: the Argentinian authorities, having conducted that preliminary postmodel examination, will

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Speaker 23: of course be conducting a full one and investigations continue

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Speaker 23: in Argentina.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's the state his state of mind

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Speaker 2: is becoming more and more said the more you read

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Speaker 2: about it, right, because now you've got you've got the

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Speaker 2: Daily Mail reporting that he was dropped by his record

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Speaker 2: label Universal just days before his death.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 23: And also a cease and assist letter from a former

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Speaker 23: girlfriend's solicitor and he was said to be contacting her

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Speaker 23: allegedly and that was against the agreement they had, so

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Speaker 23: she took out a cease and desist letter. It's been

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Speaker 23: reported as well. And this idea as well that he

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Speaker 23: was either semi conscious or completely unconscious when he fell.

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Speaker 23: I think as you're as you say, really points to

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Speaker 23: a very muddled mind, a very sad last few hours

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Speaker 23: for Liam Payne.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very tough. Now you guys have got another example

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Speaker 2: of somebody being jailed for quite a long time for

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Speaker 2: posting things on social media.

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Speaker 23: Yes, when I read the things as well, I thought, gosh,

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Speaker 23: that seems extraordinary. But the main thing that this woman

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Speaker 23: wrote was that she wanted hotels housing asylum seekers in

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Speaker 23: the UK to be set on fire. She's caused a

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Speaker 23: lot of interest Lucy Connolly because her husband is quite

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Speaker 23: a senior counselor within one of the councils in the Midlands,

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Speaker 23: the West Northamptonshire Council, it was an expletive ridden message

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Speaker 23: on x and that was on the day that those

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Speaker 23: three girls were stabbed to death in Southport in northwest England.

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Speaker 23: The forty one year old childminder called for mass deportation

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Speaker 23: now and added if that makes me racist, so be it. Well,

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Speaker 23: Lucy Connolly has been jailed for thirty one months nearly

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Speaker 23: three years on this two and a half years anyway,

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Speaker 23: and the judge said that these centence for these fences

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Speaker 23: was intended to punish and deter Well, yeah, I should

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Speaker 23: think that that deterring factor is pretty major on there.

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Speaker 23: But as you said, pretty pretty severe sentence. People wondering

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Speaker 23: about that. But it was I think that sentence about

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Speaker 23: calling the hotels housing asylum secrets to be set on fire,

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Speaker 23: which was considered very very average.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, good to talk to you about.

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Speaker 19: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again on Monday. Enjoy the weekend,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Gray Are UK correspondent ration. Ravendra has just brought

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Speaker 2: up his hundred and he's all good. Brought it up

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Speaker 2: with a four like did it and styled didn't he?

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Speaker 2: And then he took his helmet off and so everybody

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Speaker 2: could see his beautiful long here. So good on him

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Speaker 2: for that eight Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with hither Duplicy Ellen and my HR,

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Speaker 1: the HR platform for sme us talk it b.

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Speaker 2: Sticks away from seven. Okay, listen, this is what one

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Speaker 2: of Labour's rookie inmps has been doing. He's been busted

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Speaker 2: doing the same thing that Chris Luxen did. Remember when

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Speaker 2: Chris Luxen did the thing where he was into Pokey

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Speaker 2: and Hawaii. Ye at exactly the same time where he

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Speaker 2: was actually on holiday in Hawaii, but then he puts

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Speaker 2: something on the Facebook page or somebody puts something on

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Speaker 2: the Facebook page suggested that he was having a rad

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Speaker 2: time into Pokey meeting people. This time a labor MP's

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Speaker 2: done at the Chap stamp. You've never heard of him before.

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Speaker 2: Chap's name is tunguy Ut take been around a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but really not that long, like like I would say,

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Speaker 2: in the bottom third off the labor MPs at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But you know that's because they've been decimated. So it's

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Speaker 2: no reflection on Tungy anyway. So Tangy puts a social

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Speaker 2: media post on Facie on Wednesday with two photos. One

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Speaker 2: of the photos he's taken a selfie of himself on

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Speaker 2: an electric bus in Palmiston North and then the other

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Speaker 2: photo he's standing next to an empty bus in Palmiston North,

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Speaker 2: and then he put the caption so good to see

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Speaker 2: people jumping on board and using public transport to move

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Speaker 2: around our region. Public transport is an effective way to

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Speaker 2: travel and I enjoy catching the bus around Pami when

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Speaker 2: I can. Well. The trouble for Tungy was when he

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Speaker 2: was putting up the pictures of himself and Parmiston North,

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Speaker 2: oh mate Stuart Smith of the National Party was also

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Speaker 2: putting up pictures of Toungy and Tungy was with Rachel

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Speaker 2: Brooking and with Kahurangi Carter and with Stewart, and he

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Speaker 2: wasn't in Parmeston North, was he. He was actually in

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Speaker 2: Geneva on a junket. So he's apologized for it. But

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Speaker 2: there is a lesson in this, which is if you

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Speaker 2: focus not a big deal, it's not a big one.

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Speaker 2: He gets less coverage than the Prime Minister because well

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Speaker 2: he's not the Prime minister. But the lesson in this

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Speaker 2: is if you are posting photos that suggest that you're

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Speaker 2: in Parmi best b and Parmi as.

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Speaker 15: My favorite one is still the one when Simon Bridges,

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Speaker 15: whoever it was who was doing his social media for

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Speaker 15: that photo with the bull and bulls like, didn't take

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Speaker 15: out the sort of line that that obviously put in

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Speaker 15: the email. So the caption for the photo was, Hey,

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Speaker 15: is this caption all right? Is this the right caption

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Speaker 15: that we go with? I love that new track out

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Speaker 15: today today by a little band called Boy and Bear.

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Speaker 15: This is called Science. He ed head, hither do on

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Speaker 15: fait fan in the world. This is called Science and

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Speaker 15: it is a collaboration with a nausy synthpop artist Bruceseeker,

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Speaker 15: who I'm also fan of. So here he Goes is

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Speaker 15: much made in heaven. There's even a B side as well,

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Speaker 15: if you listen to when you get home. But this

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Speaker 15: track is called Science and it's out today.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a little listen. So moody, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: It's a laugh.

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Speaker 15: We always get to the instrumental breaks. You're an end

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Speaker 15: of time? That's better.

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Speaker 3: This is good.

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Speaker 2: Though they are great, they really suck live. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be honestly, I've seen them twice and I'm never gonna

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Speaker 2: see them again, but I can listen.

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Speaker 15: Happy to say, Bruce Seeker is definitely worth checking out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's good. Do you come if I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: play that tomorrow to Eggie all right, because I'm starting

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Speaker 2: I'm training him young to start liking my music. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's working yet. He does like the

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Speaker 2: Whiggels a lot. Anyway, I'll see you a bunday. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: your weekend. Used to see bas to see, to.

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Speaker 3: Diss, this, this, this for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive.

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