1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty unparalleled reach 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: and results. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: On the Huddle of Me this evening, we've got Matt 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: Heath of Hodukey and Jack Tame of Saturday Mornings in 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Q and a hello are you too? 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: How are you? 7 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm very well, Thank you, Matt so on the David 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: seymour Yn about him messaging the kids. 9 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 3: What do you think. 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 4: I think we need to stop treating men like they're 11 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 4: all creeps. It's the sort of sexualization of everything. Sometimes 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 4: a man that's an adult can talk to a child 13 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 4: and it has absolutely nothing to do with anything sexual 14 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 4: or creepy. Otherwise, what kind of world are we saying 15 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 4: where adults don't ever talk to children? 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: Just adult men. 17 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, adult men never talk to children. And not so 18 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: long ago, would have been seeing quite wholesome and that 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: a politician was taking the time out of their life 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: to talk to a young person and that's reach, you know, 21 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 4: like back in the day if a politician had written 22 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: back In fact, I wrote a letter to a politician 23 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: when I was a kid and got the letter back 24 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: and I was really stoked. There was nothing creepy about 25 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: it at all, and so I think people that are 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: saying this is totally partisan, isn't it. 27 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: I think so, Jack. 28 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: I think it's irresponsible to even run a young like 29 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: this where there's no evidence of any wrongdoing, but you're 30 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: just hunting the guys a creep. 31 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. It's like, what's the story. The 32 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: second sentence in all of these stories is there's no 33 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 5: suggestion that anything was inappropriate. It's like, oh, great, it's 34 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 5: my story. That's it. As far as I'm concerned, I 35 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 5: when I first saw this, I felt just deeply uncomfortable 36 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 5: about the reporting because it's the insinuation, Yeah, the insinuation 37 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: that something inappropriate has happened, whilst at the same time saying, well, 38 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 5: but nothing inappropriate has happened. I'll tell you what would 39 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: have made it different, I think, and that's if a 40 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 5: politician in David Seymour's position had instituted the conversation, like 41 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 5: if he had reached out to a young person their 42 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: social media, not the other way around. By all of 43 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: these from all of the reportings, just that these young 44 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 5: people have reached out to David Seymour and that he 45 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: has responded by seeing them an entirely appropriate message back. 46 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 5: So I just, yeah, I think the reporting is absolutely 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: bordering on being irresponsible personally, because you know, nothing inappropriate 48 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: has been suggested. And if we get to a point 49 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 5: where really no politician can respond to anyone under voting age, 50 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 5: I think that's the pretty sad situation for our democracy. 51 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: Most of us men are actually pretty good people. We're actually, 52 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: across the. 53 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: Board kind of increased civics education. Are we trying to 54 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 5: increase political mouse and young people are trying to engage 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: young people more in the political process, right, so in 56 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 5: the same breath, we're getting them not to talk to politicians. 57 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 5: It's funny. Yeah, I think about my own interest in politics, 58 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: and I can plot it right back to I can 59 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: still remember getting visited by David Carter, by Rod Donald, 60 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 5: by Ruth Dyson when I was in school, when I 61 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 5: was like eight or nine years old. I can remember 62 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: they were MP's in our area and they came and 63 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 5: spoke to us in school and it sparked in me 64 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 5: an interesting politics. And I just think we're really at 65 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: risk of policing something for which there's absolutely no suggestion 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: to what for that anything in appropriate has happened. 67 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, David Seymour came to my son's intermediate school 68 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: and had quite a good discussion. My son came home 69 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: to school and he talked to their class and he 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: had quite a back and forth with David. 71 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: Seymore and to snapchat message. 72 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: I didn't go, oh, what was he talking to you about? 73 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 4: What freakat? It was like a politician talking to a 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: cad and I thought, bluddy, great. 75 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely what access You're back with the huddle Matt 76 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: Heath and Jack Tame Jack, what do you think about 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: these standardized tests for primary age primary school age kids? 78 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: You into it? 79 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 80 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 5: Do you know? I actually have no problem with it, 81 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: And I don't really understand that the arguments against it 82 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: other than teachers the stretch, and I'm not denying for 83 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: a moment and that teachers aren't stretched at the moment. 84 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: But you know, I mean, from what I can understand, basically, 85 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: the standardized tests are designed so that parents have a 86 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 5: good understanding of how their child is progressing. That's how 87 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: they're intended to be introduced. Now. The Education Minister herself 88 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: has said that there were some issues with national standards 89 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 5: when they were in place, But from what I can see, 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: I don't think these are going to be so stressful 91 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 5: or so onerous that they're going to have massively negative consequences. 92 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: But of course, the proof of the puddings in the eating. 93 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: It all depends on how teachers actually rolled out this testing, 94 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: and you can you can imagine how in some classroom 95 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: environments it might be a bit more stressful for some kids. 96 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 5: And I suppose that's where we're relying on the talents 97 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: of teachers to try and get the stress out of 98 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: it and just give parents an understanding of where their 99 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 5: kid is at that. 100 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: Did your kids have them? What did you what did 101 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: your kids have the tests? 102 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. 103 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 5: Did you have them? 104 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Were you not even interested? Ye didn't have the. 105 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: What I remember from my kids being at primary schools 106 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: a while ago now, so I can't remember. There's seventeen 107 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: and fourteen. 108 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: It's not that long ago. 109 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: It's long ago for me. I can't remember, but I 110 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: do remember. And you're talking about teachers and their time 111 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: was I used to be the one that picked the 112 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: kids up from school, so I've been waiting in the 113 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: front of the class. And there's a certain type of 114 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: parent that goes into the class at the end of 115 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 4: school and absolutely punishes the teacher for information on how 116 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 4: their kids go. 117 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: Is that you no? 118 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: On the on the I was the dads just looking 119 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: for shoes and make sure that all the socks and 120 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: shoes got home. 121 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by this. You're not You're not into it. 122 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: You're not interested in whether they're learning all the stuff. 123 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: No, what I'm saying is this help the teachers. If 124 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: the teachers can go, look, we've got a quantified information 125 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 4: on how your kids are going without really concerned parents. 126 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 4: Really really has something after classic, you know, absolutely, But also, 127 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: you know, the sooner we can identify problems with kids, 128 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: the better. There's no point in trying to work it 129 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: out when they're fourteen or fifteen and the horse has bolted. 130 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: I mean that multi disciplinary study out of Dunedin was 131 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: even saying we need to find it out in the 132 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: first three years, in the first you know, before school. 133 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: So the sooner you find out that a kid has 134 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: a problem and you can identify that and help them, 135 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 4: then then then the better. 136 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jack, what about Biden's jet lag excuse? 137 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 5: Oh, it's just hopeless. It's just absolutely hopeless. I mean 138 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 5: it's honestly, they're just gaslighting people. But he doesn't have 139 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 5: a problem. I mean it is. It's actually insulting to 140 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 5: or to everyone who wants that, because you're expecting people 141 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: to somehow not believe what they saw unfold in the 142 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: most calamouous style over ninety minutes. I think it's insulting. 143 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 5: And here's the thing. I'm not denying for a moment 144 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 5: that Biden hasn't had a tough schedule. He's been back 145 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: and forth over the Atlantic, He's had all sorts of 146 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 5: things to try and juggle. That's what being president is like. Yeah, 147 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. If you can't keep up with the schedule 148 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 5: right now, then why are we to expect that you 149 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: can continue to do this for the next four and 150 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: a half. 151 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: To right is right? 152 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: Ajax right lighting it is, And it's been happening for 153 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: the longest time. You know, American press, the MSNBC, CNN 154 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: was saying it was a hoax that this was going on, 155 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: and people cutting the footage together of him to make 156 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: him look, you know, discompopulated and stuff previously previously had 157 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: ninety minutes there was with no. 158 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: Ed it was and it was heaven Obama just stopping 159 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 3: for applause. It's not him freezing on stage. 160 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I mean I didn't hear a word 161 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: Trump said because I was just totally transfixed with the 162 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: screen that Biden was in his facial expressions. I mean, 163 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: it's bolted now, and I'm not sure what they can 164 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: do about that. I mean right now the longer, and 165 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if they can get rid of them. 166 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: It's incredibly complex. Kimilla is a problem. KRMLA is a problem. 167 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: But boy, oh boy, it's you couldn't have set up 168 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: a bigger freaking disaster. 169 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: What times to live in a How good? We're tenna 170 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: grandkids about this stuff, aren't we? 171 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: It's concerning, It's brilliant. 172 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much appreciated from the pair of you, 173 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: Jack tam of Matt Heath, how hrdle 174 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: This evening For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen 175 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 176 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.