1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Now I am thrilled for the White Island company that 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: had their row conviction cost on appeal Friday. This didn't 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: get the coverage it deserved. White Island and its judicial 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: process has worried me from the get go. If you're 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: a regular, you will know this. Work and Safety appeared 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: to panic in their response to the disaster. It make 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: me no mistake. I mean, what happened at the island 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: was a disaster and a tragedy, but it was a 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: natural disaster and tragedy, and what level of legal recompense 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: was required was questioned to all I thought from the start. 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: But the approach that Work and Safety took appeared to 12 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: be a panic driven scattergun affair, whereby All and Sundry 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: faced a barrage of charges in the hope that some 14 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: of the judicial mud would stick. The brothers who owned 15 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: the island faced a couple of charges. One was dropped, 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: but they were found guilty on the other. They appealed 17 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: they have had it quite rightly turned over. The company 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: simply gave licenses to conduct twos. They didn't per se 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: manage anything and therefore could not be held accountable for 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: what others did. I still believe a lot of the 21 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: other charges were overreach as well, given the nature of 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: the volcano, I mean, adventure tourism by its very nature 23 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: carries risk. A live volcano, by its nature, carries risk. 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: At some point the people who buy into that, as 25 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: in the visitors, must take some level of responsibility. No one, 26 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: from what I could see or read, acted recklessly. They 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: weren't crazy. There was no Dare Devil behavior involved. It 28 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: was an unforeseen disaster, as the judge pointed out, given 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: the island company simply handed out licenses, what was there 30 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: to manage? He also pointed out, quite rightly, as far 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: as I can see, that they were dealing with basically 32 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: bare ground, not a lot to manage their either. Many 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of those charged pled guilty, you might remember early on 34 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: I am convinced, not because they believed they were guilty, 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: but because it was easy, whether on legal advice or not, 36 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: too simply cave in and pay the money. This quashing 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: is proof it didn't need to be that way. All 38 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: the charges that were dropped, and there were lots of them, 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: as proof it didn't need to be that way. So 40 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: how much damage, stress, money, energy, and failed businesses do 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: we have from an agency that looks increasingly likely set 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: about things in a very haphazard, if not dangerous way, 43 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: and yet are in no way being held to any 44 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: level of account. For more from the mic Asking Breakfast 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks at B from six am weekdays, 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio