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Speaker 1: It was quite the weekend on the Epstein front. Latest

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Speaker 1: of three million documents dumped by the DOJ throwing up

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Speaker 1: the usual names many time over. As the photo of

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Speaker 1: Andrew mount Beaton Windsor seemingly finishing off whatever reputation and

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Speaker 1: standing he had left in Britain, Sakir Starmers now called

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Speaker 1: for him to testify before the US Congress. The royal

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Speaker 1: commentator Richard fitz Williams as with us from London Morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Does the photo make it worse or is the damage

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Speaker 1: already done?

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Speaker 2: The damage was done probably quite a long time ago,

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Speaker 2: certainly with the newsnight interview, and then subsequently Andrew Mountbatten

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Speaker 2: Windsor was in disgrace, and of course then he lost

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Speaker 2: his military ranks, his titles, his patriages and so forth.

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Speaker 2: Then there is more, and it's quite extraordinary. Looking at

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Speaker 2: the papers in front of me, there is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor,

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Speaker 2: I'm all fours on those, an unidentified woman beneath him.

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Speaker 2: Quite utterly bizarre. And of course, as you know, three million,

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Speaker 2: apparently pieces of evidence, the Epstein files have been released,

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Speaker 2: and what is in the rest of them? We will

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Speaker 2: be learning while really learning with various emails that both

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Speaker 2: Andrew and Baton Windsor and his ex wife Sarah Ferguson

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Speaker 2: were undoubtedly deeply involved for a large number of years

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Speaker 2: with the disgraced pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. No doubt of that.

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Speaker 1: The Starmer intervention that Andrew needs to go to the

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Speaker 1: States and testify, he has no power to compel them

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Speaker 1: to do that. I'm assuming it will never happen.

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Speaker 2: You assume, certainly what people have been assuming. But there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt that the Prime Minister has toughened his line

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Speaker 2: and if Andrew moun Baton Windsor were to do that,

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Speaker 2: it would n doubtedly be a course elbt. But the

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Speaker 2: problem is, given the emails we've seen, given the photographs,

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Speaker 2: remember the photograph for example very recently where he was

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Speaker 2: lying across five unidentified women, presumably at Sandringham. The whole

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Speaker 2: litany of problems, and undoubtedly what has to be frank

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Speaker 2: lies because some of these emails where he was connected

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Speaker 2: with email Epstein, they occurred at that period where he

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Speaker 2: claimed in that infamous Newsnight broadcast that he had not

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Speaker 2: been in touch. So the Prime Minister undoubtedly in theory

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Speaker 2: this he can't be compelled but veryous evidence, for example,

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Speaker 2: that a woman was trafficked supposedly to Royal Lodge. So

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Speaker 2: it's been alleged that could, for example, mean the investigation

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Speaker 2: were the police minded. So to do with the relevant evidence,

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Speaker 2: you just don't know from day to day. And this

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Speaker 2: is the problem Paras have had all along dealing with that.

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Speaker 1: Correct NIC's sketch up. Richard Richards William the other one

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Speaker 1: as Mandleson, as I mentioned earlier in the programs, I've

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Speaker 1: heard of him standing as under pantses. He's in a

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Speaker 1: hotel room seemingly with a woman in a bathrobe, having

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Speaker 1: a chat about some paperwork anyway, point, and he also

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Speaker 1: got money, allegedly, he claims read the money. This happened

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three, two thousand and four money from Epstein.

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Speaker 1: He claims not to remember any of it, denies at all,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Point is, there's nothing illegal here,

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Speaker 1: is there? And so if you go back to its

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Speaker 1: very core, what the Democrats are looking to do is

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Speaker 1: just dump all this stuff in the hope that it

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Speaker 1: leads directly back to Trump's crook they can impeach him

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Speaker 1: and change the world. But none of it seems to

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Speaker 1: be happening so far. For more from the mic Asking Breakfast,

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