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Speaker 1: Afternoon. After years of embarrassing breakdowns, the Prime Minister's planes

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Speaker 1: are being replaced. The two old seven five sevens will

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Speaker 1: be replaced by two Airbus A three to two to

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Speaker 1: one planes. We're also buying five new Seahawk helicopters equipped

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Speaker 1: with anti submarine torpedo systems, how fire missiles and machine guns.

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Speaker 1: And the total bill comes to two point seven billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Judith Collins is the Defense minist to Hi, Judith, oh, Hi, Heather,

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Speaker 1: how far can these new Prime ministerial planes go?

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Speaker 2: Well, they can go from Auckland to Singapore and one go.

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Speaker 2: They can also go from christ Church to the Antarctic

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Speaker 2: and come back without having to land. So that's the

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Speaker 2: situation if there's a whiteout or a major problem down

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Speaker 2: when our pilots get down to Antarctica at the moment

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Speaker 2: there's a point of no return. And this time, once

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Speaker 2: these are in place, they'll be able to go down

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Speaker 2: there and come back if they have to without loss

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Speaker 2: of life.

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Speaker 1: So if they can go to Singapore, does that mean

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Speaker 1: you can get to Europe in just two flows?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, well I don't know if it's quite Europe

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Speaker 2: in that time, but certainly all of Asia and the Pacific.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge amount better. And of course it's not

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Speaker 2: only for the delegations. A lot of this is around

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Speaker 2: our movement of troops and bringing people forre spaces.

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Speaker 1: Why not go Boeing?

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Speaker 2: Well, there are reasons for it, and the reasons that

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Speaker 2: were put up is that this is the longest range

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Speaker 2: that we could have for the narrow body of aircraft

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Speaker 2: and that within our price range. In addition to that,

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Speaker 2: it's the ability to go to and from Antarctica all

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Speaker 2: in one go is unbelievably important.

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Speaker 1: When are they arriving are we think.

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Speaker 2: Probably about early twenty twenty eight. And what we're doing

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Speaker 2: is we're a bit faster than some people getting them

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Speaker 2: because we're doing this least to buy program with a

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Speaker 2: very large supplier or someone who buys an awful lot

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Speaker 2: of brand new planes, and we're on that sort of system,

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Speaker 2: so we can get them a bit earlier, and it

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Speaker 2: apparently works out quite a lot cheaper if we do

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Speaker 2: it that way.

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Speaker 1: Now, when we finally get around to paying for the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks and we're buying them modestly from the US, do

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Speaker 1: you think the US will rethink their tariffs against US?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's up to them obviously, but I

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Speaker 2: think the pointers with the Seahawks is when we looked

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Speaker 2: at all of the defense I should say, looked at

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Speaker 2: all of the options around which helicopters to get maritime

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Speaker 2: for what we need for interoperability with Australia. But also

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Speaker 2: these ones don't need us to do very much at

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Speaker 2: all when it comes to each changes to the ships

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Speaker 2: or other ships that we might get in the future.

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Speaker 2: They're very easy for us. And you know, look, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the US will make their own decisions. The point

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Speaker 2: is that we've got to get the right equipment for defense.

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Speaker 1: Hey how much more were you prepared to pay the teachers?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's not really up to me. They need

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Speaker 2: to My answer is always get back the bargaining table.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just the Public Services Minister. But my view

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Speaker 2: is you cannot. You cannot bargain with people who first

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Speaker 2: instinct is to get out on strike.

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Speaker 1: But it seems to have worked, Judith. I mean they

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Speaker 1: did one day of strikes and then Brian Wroache said

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll pay you more.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure that he said that. I think

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Speaker 2: he said get back to the bargaining table. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's the message to anybody. Well, he said that

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Speaker 2: the payoff would go up.

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Speaker 1: He said it wasn't good enough and it would go on.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, but I mean other point is

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Speaker 2: I'm focused on defense today and national security, and I'd

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Speaker 2: say to anybody, just get to the bagging table, and please,

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Speaker 2: please don't organize all your marketing and strikes before you've

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Speaker 2: even heard an offer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Judith is and thanks very much, Judith Collins Defense

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Speaker 1: Minister and also minister. But does it sound to you

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Speaker 1: like Judith was surprised by that. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Brian had told Judith that he said this yesterday. For

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