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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, The breakfast show you can't miss. It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen seventy three, News togs head been.

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Speaker 2: Bonningha and welcome today. The political year is underway. The

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Speaker 2: state of the Nation will set the scene. The Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister's with Us. Turns out a lot of Kiwis who

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Speaker 2: bailed to Australia didn't do their homework in the tough

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Speaker 2: times have smacked then in the place. How real is

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Speaker 2: the US in Greenland? And is the terriff threat to allies?

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Speaker 2: The nuttiest thing?

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Speaker 3: Yet?

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Speaker 2: Lads do these sport the commentry box of course, and

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Speaker 2: we headed the States with Richard and Australia with Steve

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Posky, Well, here.

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Speaker 2: We go seven past six. I don't think I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's a scriptwriter in Hollywood who could out dramatize

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Speaker 2: real life. Right now, what do you reckon? It seems

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Speaker 2: the show is back just in time for a year

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Speaker 2: of Lord knows what Venezuela was. It illegal, probably, but

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Speaker 2: key question is who's going to do anything about it?

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Speaker 2: And if you protest, you look like you're backing a

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Speaker 2: dictator and a thug, don't you Greenland? I think a

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Speaker 2: deal will evolve eventually where NATO boost's resources should have

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Speaker 2: been done years go, remembering the thinking behind it. If

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Speaker 2: America doesn't plant a flag, China might. Cuba Columbia also

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Speaker 2: linked to the China obsession Trump has, but their small fry,

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Speaker 2: they'll ultimately get settled and sorted Minnesota, proving this acts

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Speaker 2: locally as well as internationally. Trump is rewriting the world.

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Speaker 2: Note Rubio's using the term Western hemisphere. A lot that's

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Speaker 2: deliberate goes back to President Monroe of the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 2: All of this is fascinating, not necessarily good or bad,

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Speaker 2: but gripping. Nevertheless, if you're watching the New Night Manager season,

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Speaker 2: the overthrow of a government is the plot? Is it

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Speaker 2: fiction or a docco? These days? See you don't know?

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Speaker 4: Do you?

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Speaker 2: Locally, apart from being bored witless as local media obsessed

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Speaker 2: about endless weather warnings and crime, we've got a lot

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Speaker 2: to look forward to. In case you forgot, this country

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Speaker 2: is actually on a bit of a roll. The pre

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Speaker 2: Christmas GDP number Q three, Remember that July, August and

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Speaker 2: September gangbusters. While so many moaned about our lot. We

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Speaker 2: were in fact going and growing very nicely. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: No reason to believe Q four when we get it

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Speaker 2: won't be about as good. So that sets the year

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Speaker 2: up election year with the government who's de it. We

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Speaker 2: haven't even got to Iran or the astonishing cock up

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Speaker 2: elder and easy manage to make of the BONDI tragedy

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court in tariffs, speaking of which are in

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Speaker 2: FTA came too late for the good news coverage it deserved.

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Speaker 2: Oh and the Fed Reserve DOJ scandal that dragged down

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor into the political world of Winston Peters.

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Speaker 2: You can't make a lot of this stuff up. And

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Speaker 2: yet it's all happening, it's all changing, it's all on.

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Speaker 2: What a year. It's going to be awesome.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds, right.

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Speaker 2: Greenland never had so much attention. Not that the Europeans

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Speaker 2: placed with the threat of U S tariffs are loving it.

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Speaker 5: We stand in full solidarity with the Kingdom of Denmark

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Speaker 6: Tariff threats undermined transatlantic relations and risk a dangerous downward spiral.

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Speaker 2: This bloke used to be the Danish Minister for the place.

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Speaker 2: He's got a glass half full view.

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Speaker 7: It is correct, but he's seeing mister Trump the ACTA and.

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Speaker 8: Security and that we have now they started to have

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Speaker 2: believe that this decision on tariffs is completely wrong. The

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Speaker 9: The Kingdom of Denmark to determine.

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Speaker 10: Reform better ballback if people actually look at the dictionary

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Speaker 10: What does Kirs Starmer done his counciled elections now for

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Speaker 10: It's Justice secretaries of drawing the right to jury trials.

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Speaker 12: This was spread across the country huge numbers. Millions of

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Speaker 2: Then in Britain or Wales, as it turns out, they

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Speaker 2: a fort. Let give it up. Health News. Finally, researchers

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Speaker 2: from the University of Liverpool looks the three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand people how their bodies manage blood shugar spikes

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Speaker 2: So that's depressed and so the advices obviously don't eat

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Speaker 2: your body absorbs the sugar, so that there is news

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Speaker 2: Scott visit this morning. By the way, start of this

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Speaker 2: scoters are dropping decisions. The expectation is the decision around

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Speaker 2: generate this Monday morning, Greegsmith, morning to you, moy Mike,

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Speaker 2: how backleads and happy New year to you too. How

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Speaker 5: last Mike, he might beat the global average at fifty

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Speaker 5: Twine will tell Mike where they're going to ruffle even

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Speaker 5: more feathers. It's been some suggestions that they could build

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Speaker 2: got wobbly last week and then it didn't. And you know,

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Speaker 5: That's right, despite everything that's been thrown at you. Obviously

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Speaker 2: Morning, Mike, welcome back. Just text and let you know

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Speaker 2: Mike is back. Awesome to have you back. Mike. Holy shit,

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Speaker 2: How did they get in there? There's six twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Oh the beauty of democracy is that? Well, what is it?

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Speaker 2: she's having a crack in Texas. She is running to

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Speaker 13: For some reason, the mayor election is twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 13: Here's the thing. If I'm positive one way and hearing

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Speaker 2: Talking earlier about Trump. Trump's underwater one year on. All

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Speaker 2: us David, morning to you, Good morning mate. Is this

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Speaker 8: Oh look, I think that's true, Mike. I think there's

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Speaker 2: What percentage do you reckon of all the people into

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Speaker 2: So what do you do? I mean, is this going

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Speaker 8: There are also people this is something that people don't

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Speaker 2: Interesting. I just I find it personally inconceivable that I

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Speaker 8: Others may have a different roof, but look, I think

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Speaker 2: That's a very good point. Your sense broadeness out, your

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Speaker 8: The interest in New Zealand is definitely growing and it

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Speaker 2: if you missed it over the holiday period. So we

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Speaker 2: were back. When we left you, things were looking a

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Speaker 2: bit doer, including Fonterra. They'd come to the party and

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Speaker 2: lowered their milk gate price and we thought, is where's

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Speaker 2: the demand gone and are things going to change? Well,

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Speaker 2: boy did they whole milk seven percent, skim milk fire

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Speaker 2: point four, but a three point eight. So they came

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Speaker 2: back with alacrity. Big shift out of the Middle East

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Speaker 2: share of buying doubled, so the Middle Easter back and

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Speaker 2: so we think we might be on to a little

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Speaker 2: bit of good news. So we'll stand by all that.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday sixteen.

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Speaker 1: To international correspondence with ends an eye insurance peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Todd Richard, I'm happy to you here mine, How are you?

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Speaker 14: I'm well, welcome back, Michael.

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Speaker 2: Good and better off HEU than Minnesota. Minneapolis for several reasons.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the pedagon is already in fifteen hundred soldiers fossil

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Speaker 14: wall deployment there, so the standoff not easing. Minneapolis Mayor

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Speaker 14: Jacob Fryar is saying today.

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Speaker 15: Never thought in a million years that we would be

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Speaker 15: invaded by our own federal government.

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Speaker 14: Well, the soldiers are from two infantry battalions with the

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Speaker 14: Army's eleventh Airborn. If Trump green lights that deployment, he

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Speaker 14: would use the Insurrection Act, dating way back to eighteen

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Speaker 14: o seven, which allows a president to respond militarily to

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Speaker 14: quote unquote a rebellion. So this would be extraordinary. Trump

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Speaker 14: is saying that he will do this if needed. So

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Speaker 14: is he dying this back?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 14: Back in December, of course, Trump moved to endeployment of

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Speaker 14: National Guard troops in la Chicago, and Portland after a

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Speaker 14: sixty three ruling by the US Supreme Court, raising concerns

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Speaker 14: about how the Guard could carry out local laws. There

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Speaker 14: are still National Guards and duty in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 14: So all debate is pending. Meantime, it is bitterly cold

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Speaker 14: on the streets of Minneapolis. Just checked today down to

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Speaker 14: minus twenty today, Celsius. That hasn't stopped anti ICE protests

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Speaker 14: like this, which have followed the shooting deaths of Renee

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Speaker 14: Good and the wounding of another man. Brown Shirts is

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Speaker 14: yelling this is the federal agents in masks line up

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Speaker 14: against them. ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement has been very aggressive,

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Speaker 14: got to say, sometimes smashing car windows of people that stops,

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Speaker 14: forcing folks to the ground and so on. They've been

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Speaker 14: accused of singling out people of color and demanding identification.

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Speaker 11: Essay, please, can I ask.

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The mayor the yes, sir.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: The mess says that the ICE actions are terrorizing people.

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Speaker 14: So they have set up sort of support groups for shut.

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Speaker 15: In making sure that they got a ride to the

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Speaker 15: grocery store, a safe walk to their car. They're making

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Speaker 15: sure that they have those basic necessities that they need

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Speaker 15: because we've got a whole lot of people that are

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Speaker 15: afraid to go outside.

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Speaker 14: Life in Minnesota. Meantime, one of the part in January,

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Speaker 14: the sixth Riders, staged a pro ICE event that activist

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Speaker 14: Jake Lang was chased into a hotel by a much

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Speaker 14: bigger group of counter protesters who through water balloons.

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Speaker 2: At a man they were going to agree. How does

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Speaker 2: this scene Richard Greenland?

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Speaker 14: I mean, hopefully quickly, you know the Treasury secree. I

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Speaker 14: don't know why it's Scott Beson doing the media runs

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Speaker 14: on this today. I mean, what's his domain with this anyway?

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Speaker 14: Saying the Trump team is insistent that Greenland must be

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Speaker 14: done part of the US of Aas of Trump has

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Speaker 14: announced you tarrifs on a number of European countries over

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Speaker 14: the issue. At Denmark, which controls Greenlanders and autonomous territory

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Speaker 14: as we all know now, will be hit with a

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Speaker 14: ten percent tariff and or goods sent to the US

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Speaker 14: from the start of feb Others backing Denmark, including Britain, France, Germany, Norway, Sweden,

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Speaker 14: Finland and the Netherlands also will be subject to that

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Speaker 14: ten percent tariff if they do not relent, says Bess.

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Speaker 4: They believe that the Europeans will understand that the best

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Speaker 4: outcome is for the US to maintain or receive control

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Speaker 4: of Greenland.

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Speaker 14: Does he really me argues that with the with the

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Speaker 14: snows melting over there, and he could open up new

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Speaker 14: sea lanes and spur new economic battles over rare earth minerals.

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Speaker 4: And so on and on.

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Speaker 14: He says this could lead to war, and that the

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Speaker 14: Trump moves US supposedly to deter the idea of any

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Speaker 14: future conflict. Does that make any sense, wonders Democrat criscoons.

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Speaker 15: It's unclear why we would spend any money on acquiring

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Speaker 15: Greenland when.

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Speaker 7: We effectively have all the access to it we already want.

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Speaker 14: Denmichael ready has offered the US any military and other

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Speaker 14: access they desire under the native umbrella. Denmichael also, of course,

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Speaker 14: suffered more losses per capita in the wake of September

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Speaker 14: the eleventh, and even the US did. They have been

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Speaker 14: one of this country's best allies for decades and decades,

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Speaker 14: while NATO, of course has created a block for peace

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Speaker 14: since the end of World War II, in alliance now

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Speaker 14: being put in jeopardy.

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Speaker 2: Right see Wednesday, Richard Arnold stateside Andrew Ritmand by the

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Speaker 2: ways that E you observe a foreign editor, he's with

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Speaker 2: us after seven o'clock, I assume that'll cut a deal.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day. NATO is not going

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Speaker 2: to end America is not going to buy Greenland. Bell

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Speaker 2: cutter deal Anyway, speaking of which, and there's a couple

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Speaker 2: of things to note here. This is where Trump gets weird,

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Speaker 2: if he didn't already think he was weird. He's banned

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Speaker 2: institutional investor home purchases. So in America, a lot of

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Speaker 2: institutions come along there buy up homes. Now that's preventing

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Speaker 2: people buying homes. Homes. Housing is an issue in America

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Speaker 2: the midterms, as I mentioned to coming up, he's banning that,

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Speaker 2: very left wing move for a conservative president. Meantime, he's

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Speaker 2: also talking about a limit on credit card debt. Why

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Speaker 2: because everyone owes a lot of money, So he's talking

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Speaker 2: about limiting debt once again, very left wing sort of move.

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Speaker 2: Here's another trend you want to watch, and this might

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Speaker 2: blow up in his face. So India, their trade deficit

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Speaker 2: for December was twenty one percent for the year at

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Speaker 2: twenty five billion dollars. Now what's driving that, Well, they're

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Speaker 2: not exporting as much to America. Where are they exporting Beijing?

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Speaker 2: Are they exporting a lot to Beijing? You bet they are.

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Speaker 2: China is also exporting a lot, but not to America.

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Speaker 2: So exports to America are down, but exports to the

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Speaker 2: world are up. So India and China are doing very nicely,

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Speaker 2: thank you. So are they being affected by the tariffs?

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Speaker 2: Not really, They've just gone and found new markets. And

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Speaker 2: if that continues, all the gold that he talks about

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Speaker 2: arriving in America and the tariffs and the bills are

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Speaker 2: going to change dramatically. And the economy he keeps mentioning

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Speaker 2: being so brilliant, no one believes them, of course, because

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Speaker 2: it isn't. That gets to be a problem. As the

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Speaker 2: boat comes up in October and November later on this year,

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Speaker 2: Turn Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: My Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News.

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Speaker 2: Togstad been here away from seven. One of the more

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Speaker 2: interesting insights into the American economy is air travel. And

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Speaker 2: this is what they call the K shaped economy. I

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Speaker 2: talked a bit about this last year. I believe we've

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Speaker 2: probably got something similar. In fact, most Western economy is

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Speaker 2: probably have the same thing K shaped economy. In other words,

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Speaker 2: if you've got a job and you're doing okay, you fine.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what everyone's talking about when you talk

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Speaker 2: about a cost of living crisis. So main cabin ticket

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Speaker 2: sales in America for aeroplanes is down seven percent, So

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Speaker 2: you think, well, that's not very good. It's but of

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Speaker 2: a recession. Premium cabin front of the planes' up ninth.

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Speaker 2: So you got a job and you're doing okay. You fine. Now,

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Speaker 2: of course this year lucks and after seven thirty, but

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Speaker 2: this year is going to be very much about the economy.

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Speaker 2: Economies win and lose elections, and there's enough there to

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Speaker 2: feel reasonably bullish if you want the government re elected.

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Speaker 2: As far as I can work out this year, a

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Speaker 2: lot can change in a year. Of course, I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: the elections in November October November. There's no reason to

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Speaker 2: think it'll be any other time. But the manufacturing greg

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Speaker 2: gave us. I mean, the manufacturing numbers were stonking, and

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Speaker 2: you can't argue with them because they're facts. It's not

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Speaker 2: a mood, it's not a vibe. It's numbers. It's factual

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Speaker 2: consumer confidence, which is a move that is a vibe,

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Speaker 2: highest level in more than four years. It's up three

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Speaker 2: to one hundred and one point five. So we're in

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Speaker 2: expansionary territory, which is good. Inflation expectations are down, food

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Speaker 2: seems to be coming under control. Read a story over

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Speaker 2: was it last week somebody who's going the price of

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Speaker 2: white bread's up sixty percent. I mean, don't buy white bread.

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Speaker 4: It's crap.

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Speaker 2: It's bad for you. Business optimisms up seventeen points seventeen

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Speaker 2: business optimism, and they think unemployment may have peaked at

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Speaker 2: five point three. So at one point they said it

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Speaker 2: could be as bad as six. They could tailed that

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Speaker 2: back to maybe five five, but Westpac I note last

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Speaker 2: week was suggesting that maybe five point three is about it.

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Speaker 2: So that's a lot of good economic news in which

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Speaker 2: to launch your political year. Don't you reckon five away

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Speaker 2: from seven?

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business tiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, so what are we got? Full twelve

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Speaker 2: month inflation number is coming out Friday week thirtieth of

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Speaker 2: jan that's when Stat's going to publish the December data.

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Speaker 2: What are the banks thinking about inflation? Well, the consensus

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Speaker 2: appears to be about three percent, so if they're being

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Speaker 2: on that, that's zero three for the bank. So that's encouraging.

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Speaker 2: ASB picking three point one ASB and Westpac predicting three.

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Speaker 2: How can ASB predict three point one in the ASB

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Speaker 2: and the west Pac. Did I mistype that one of them?

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Speaker 2: Am Z libly A and Z in west Pac three

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Speaker 2: B and Z two point nine. All the banks are

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Speaker 2: predicting inflation to ease throughout the year. So it's at

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Speaker 2: three now they think, and trending down, which indicates capacity.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming there's also agreement over the RB and what

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Speaker 2: they're going to do with the cash rate next month.

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Speaker 2: That's a hold. There is no reasonably that number, that

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Speaker 2: GDP number that came out for Q three at one

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Speaker 2: point one. I mean, that was ridiculous, a good ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: So there's no way in the world that you got

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Speaker 2: that number and you're then going to open up the

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Speaker 2: year and Feburary and go we'll need another cut, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much. So unless something goes awry, which I

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Speaker 2: don't think it did in Q four, I think Q

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Speaker 2: four is the same as Q three, isn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: just think back to December, what you were doing in

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Speaker 2: November December. You felt about the same in November December

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Speaker 2: as you did in August, didn't you. So Therefore, if

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Speaker 2: it's one point one in the third quarter, it's about

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Speaker 2: one in the fourth quarter. That's good growth. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can't argue with those numbers anyway, IIan ZID don't

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Speaker 2: actually as regards the Reserve Bank of the CASHWAT, they

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Speaker 2: don't see a hike hike until February of twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: where this could get interesting. I don't have time to

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Speaker 2: tell you about this at the moment, but most disturbing

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Speaker 2: a written article about the Australian dollar summers suggesting it

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Speaker 2: could appreciate to ninety US by the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to do something similar? No, we are not.

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Speaker 2: In the mat is a major.

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Speaker 1: Problem asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast,

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Speaker 1: we're the defender, embrace the impossible news tomsad bearing.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So the political year underway today? Were

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's State of the Nation. We're not expecting

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Speaker 2: apparently specific policy, more a sense of where we're at

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Speaker 2: and where we're going and whether the current lot had

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Speaker 2: the wherewith all to carry on past October November Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister are after the half hour, but Stephen Joyce, former

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Speaker 2: Finance Minister, is with us. Good morning, Good morning, Michael,

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Speaker 2: how are you very well? Indeed, happy new year, fixing

657
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Speaker 2: new year, good to see you back fixing the basics.

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Speaker 2: Building the future, I'm told is the theme. How malleable

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Speaker 2: do you think the elector is to sort of a

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Speaker 2: bit of imaging and ideas at this time of year?

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I think you've got to have some a

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Speaker 4: story to tell. I think it's really important. Actually, I

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Speaker 4: think that's as a former campaign manager of about five elections,

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Speaker 4: I think that's as good as any and probably indicative

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Speaker 4: of where things are at. You've got to fix the

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Speaker 4: basics and you've got to get things hitting in the

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Speaker 4: right direction. I mean, that's the reality of it, and

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Speaker 4: that's what the public expects. So tick for that, and

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Speaker 4: it's just execution.

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Speaker 2: The GDP numbers look good, Q three very good. Manufacturing

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Speaker 2: looks good, the confidence looks good. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: material there to work with if you want to, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there is.

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Speaker 4: But I think also there and it is looking more positive.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people won't be feeling it yet, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's important for the Prime Minister to day

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Speaker 4: to sort of level with the public that the acknowledges

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Speaker 4: that things are being tough. He knows it's been hard work,

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Speaker 4: you know, we were in a big hole. We're working

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Speaker 4: our way out of it, but it's not done yet,

681
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Speaker 4: and there's some positive science, but not oversell it. I

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Speaker 4: think at this point, I think you've got to you've

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Speaker 4: got to talk about where people's reality is and then

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Speaker 4: and then talk about what we're going to do this year.

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Speaker 4: And it's a challenging year still. I mean, it's positive

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Speaker 4: from our perspective, but you know, we just have to

687
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Speaker 4: watch the news, you know, for for about four hours

688
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Speaker 4: to know just how turbulent the world is. And if

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Speaker 4: I was so, I'd be talking about how important it

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Speaker 4: is for the country to be match fit in a

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Speaker 4: way that it probably hasn't had to have previously because

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Speaker 4: we are in very, very uncertain times. So we've got

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Speaker 4: to do some of the hard yards to make sure

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Speaker 4: that we that we keep growing and that actually what

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Speaker 4: what's started actually turns into something pretty special.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting point. There's a lot of in the

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Speaker 2: the the chatterati. They're they're standing by this morning for

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Speaker 2: him to say something about Venezuela and stuff. Are we

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Speaker 2: gripped by that? Are we gripped by a New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: view of the wider world and it's tumult or are

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Speaker 2: we more interested in jobs and finance and the economy.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think the public are expecting the Prime

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Speaker 4: Minister to offer an hour by our commentary on what's

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Speaker 4: happening in the US, and he would take up all

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Speaker 4: this time if he did that. So I think they're

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Speaker 4: expecting them to acknowledge that and then focus on what

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Speaker 4: he can do and what we can do as a

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Speaker 4: country to succeed in tough times, I mean in in

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Speaker 4: turbulent times, and that's really what they are expecting of them.

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Speaker 4: The other thing I think that's important, whether today or later,

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Speaker 4: is for the government to lay out the importance of

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Speaker 4: National and the coalition, because I think you're going to

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Speaker 4: find all year everybody positioning naturally enough act in New Zealand. First,

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Speaker 4: they're going to be positioning their importance for it. And

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Speaker 4: I think National was yet to land on a description

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Speaker 4: of itself and its role in the coalition. And I

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Speaker 4: think that role is as a solid foundation, the sort

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Speaker 4: of the ballost, the core of the coalition. It's not

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Speaker 4: particularly sexy, but it's important and I think that's something

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Speaker 4: that they have to talk about more because they can't

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Speaker 4: talk about it as if there's not going to be

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Speaker 4: a coalition because clearly there is after the next selection

723
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Speaker 4: of the way all the polls are looking. So what's

724
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Speaker 4: the important part? Why are they the important part? Why

725
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Speaker 4: are they glue to hold this thing together? That's really important.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be great year. Appreciate time as always

727
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Speaker 2: Stephen Joyce's former finance Minister of Courts. It's the most

728
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Speaker 2: fascinating thing for me because the media generally don't like

729
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Speaker 2: the government, and the media every time they need to

730
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Speaker 2: position themselves, Whinston will position themselves. David Seymour positioned himself

731
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Speaker 2: as separate to the National Party. So how much of today,

732
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Speaker 2: for example, is about the National Party? How much of

733
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Speaker 2: it's about the coalition? Every time somebody says something to go,

734
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Speaker 2: oh cracks in the coalition, ooh cracks in the you know,

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Speaker 2: how are they going to do that this year without

736
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Speaker 2: becoming a thing? Eleven past seven? So how about Greenland?

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Speaker 2: Of all the mad stuff? The US presidents Ofmerston threatening

738
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Speaker 2: your allies with tariffs until the deals cut seems pretty

739
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: seems pretty out there twenty five percent unless you play

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Speaker 2: things his way. Andrew ret is that EU observe as

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Speaker 2: foreign editor and as well as Andrew morning.

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Speaker 17: To you, Good morning, thanks for having me, not at all.

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Speaker 2: What's the line here between crazy and what actually might

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Speaker 2: unfold in Greenland?

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Speaker 11: Huh?

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Speaker 17: Well, I guess that's what you ambassadors are trying to

747
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Speaker 17: decide right now. They're meeting for kind of emergency talks

748
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Speaker 17: on transatlantic relations. As we speak, we're waiting for diplomats

749
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Speaker 17: to send out some information by the WhatsApp group WhatsApp groups,

750
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Speaker 17: but we haven't heard anything yet, and I guess people

751
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Speaker 17: will be looking forward to Davos this week, you know,

752
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Speaker 17: when the leaders meet ay to Way to see if

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Speaker 17: there can be some walking back on this new crisis.

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Speaker 2: Do many people in Europe see this for? I think

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Speaker 2: what it is a negotiating stance and nothing. You know,

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Speaker 2: America is not buying Greenland. The twenty five percent tariffs

757
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Speaker 2: aren't going to happen. Something else will eventually. Do they

758
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Speaker 2: see it that way?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean obviously President Trump has a history of

761
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Speaker 17: flip flopping on all sorts of things, whether it's tariffs

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Speaker 17: or foreign policy decisions. So there's still some hope that

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Speaker 17: this is just his crazy way of negotiating. And you

764
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Speaker 17: heard that today, I think from Prime Minister Maloney of Italy,

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Speaker 17: who said she'd spoken to him and that he seemed

766
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Speaker 17: interested in listening to Europe. The Irish leader Michael Martin

767
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Speaker 17: also said that it was a bit premature to talk

768
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Speaker 17: of you trade retaliations, you know, until things have been

769
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 17: sort of until the temperature have been tested with Washington.

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Speaker 17: So there are some optimists, but you know, alongside that,

771
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Speaker 17: some people are worried that this trade walk could still

772
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Speaker 17: just be American soft powers. Some people are still worried

773
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Speaker 17: that the threat of use of force is serious. You

774
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Speaker 17: heard that being voiced by Spain today for instance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Andrew appreciate the insight very much. Andrew Ripman,

776
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Speaker 2: who's the EU observe a foreign editor with us this morning,

777
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: thirteen minute tasking Cully. You and I we were talking

778
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Speaker 2: about that one of them America started to take over

779
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: New Zealand, and the first thing I came up with

780
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: was good because we'd be immediately associated with the dollar

781
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: and that would materially improve our circumstances. No end, because

782
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Speaker 2: if you've looked at the value of our dollar, this

783
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: as the American dollar. They're two completely different things. Mike,

784
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Speaker 2: welcome back. I don't think Luxin's given enough credit for

785
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: holding the coalition together. I don't know if anyone else

786
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: who would have kept him together. He keeps his own

787
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: ego and check his greatest strength as his man management

788
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: and empowering his team to succeed. This is his corporate

789
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: experience shining through. Imagine the shit the country would be

790
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Speaker 2: and if the coalition collapsed. Very good point. Paul fourteen

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Speaker 2: past the.

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Speaker 2: So I was on the phone with my mate last

795
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Speaker 2: week who lives in Sydney, and he asked, he said,

796
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Speaker 2: what's going on with the dollar? I said, well, the

797
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: dollars stuffed is the problem. That was my expert reaction

798
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: to his failing. But it was at eighty five to

799
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Speaker 2: the eighty sixth this morning Australian, which is embarrassing. Remember

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Speaker 2: it wasn't that long ago. Every now and again over

801
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: the years we've talked about parity. We're never going to

802
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Speaker 2: get parity with the Australian dollar. But we get to

803
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Speaker 2: the way well into the nineties, and so when you

804
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Speaker 2: go to Australia, you're not sort of thinking, oh, I

805
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: wonder how much this is going to cost, whereas now

806
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: you do fifteen percents a lot. Anyway, this was the

807
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Speaker 2: piece I referenced before seven o'clock this morning. There's a

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Speaker 2: big divergence going to go on this year. Unfortunately it's

809
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Speaker 2: currently sixty six US. This is the Australian dollar sixty six.

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Speaker 2: They reckon it's going to appreciate somewhere between ten and

811
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Speaker 2: forty percent this year. They think Bullock, as in the

812
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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor is going to hike rates. And this

813
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Speaker 2: is where the divergence one US comes in. So we're

814
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Speaker 2: on hold worst case scenario, we're still cutting. She's looking

815
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Speaker 2: to increase. So there's your divergence. In other words, why

816
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Speaker 2: is she increasing because the Australian economy is strong? Why

817
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: are we holding it if not cutting? Because our economy

818
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Speaker 2: is still building back ahead of steam. So that's your divergence.

819
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Speaker 2: And so they're thinking the Australian dollar is going to

820
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Speaker 2: appreciate ten to forty percent price target of seventy two

821
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Speaker 2: cents by the end of the year. Seventy two cents

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Speaker 2: US by the end of the year. That'd be the

823
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Speaker 2: highest value for the Australian dollar since twenty twenty two.

824
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Speaker 2: That's from amp ubs. They say it could go to

825
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Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two US sense to the Australian dollar.

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Speaker 2: Now if that happens, I don't think it will. But

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Speaker 2: if it does, what do you reckon? We're going to

828
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Speaker 2: be against the Australian and then that is I mean,

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Speaker 2: all good for the exporters, but for anything else, it's

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Speaker 2: no good at all. This poll of the holiday period

831
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Speaker 2: came out. I can't remember when it was, two days ago, yesterday,

832
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Speaker 2: the day before, whatever it was. This is the freshwater

833
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Speaker 2: stuff on the asset reconditioning the Prime Minister raised last year.

834
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Speaker 2: This is a national party policy. Peters hates it, so

835
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Speaker 2: it's going to be an issue and therefore because of that,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we'll ever see the light of day,

837
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Speaker 2: but you never know. But the poll said forty nine

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Speaker 2: percent of US support a sale if a one hundred

839
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Speaker 2: percent of this is asset sales, if one hundred percent

840
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Speaker 2: of the money went into a future fund, some sort

841
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Speaker 2: of future fund, in other words, if you're not just

842
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: going a retired debt or something, put it way for

843
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Speaker 2: a rainy day, put it away to do something productive.

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Speaker 2: This was the idea raised on this program last year

845
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Speaker 2: by lux and he said, there's too much stuff we

846
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Speaker 2: own the state. Farms are a good example. Why do

847
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: we own farms well? For a private sector can run

848
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: farms far better, seldom get the money put it into

849
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Speaker 2: something productive. So forty nine percent support that asset recycling

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Speaker 2: forty eight percent rising to fifty two if the buyers

851
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Speaker 2: required to be New Zealand based. I'm not sure that's necessary,

852
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Speaker 2: but those numbers genuinely surprised me. I thought, the moment

853
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Speaker 2: you polled on asset sales, people are old enough and

854
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Speaker 2: go back to Richard Prebble and New Zealand Rail and

855
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Speaker 2: go on ever again. But half the country supporting the

856
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Speaker 2: idea of taking bad money and making it work for us.

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Speaker 2: I was fantastically reassured about, because I'm all about we

858
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Speaker 2: got too much dead money floating around doing nothing, and

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Speaker 2: the sooner we put it to work, the better. So

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Speaker 2: I'm very pleased, and I would be very uplifted if

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Speaker 2: I was a Prime Minister and saw those numbers. I'll

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Speaker 2: ask them about that. In about fifteen minutes seven twenty.

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893
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Speaker 2: I've got to tell you I'm still a little bit

894
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: exercised about Scott Robertson because I like Scott and I

895
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: thought he was a very good coach. His record at

896
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: Canterbury spoke for itself. Of course, See trouble in this

897
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: country is we can't have a sensible conversation about the

898
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: all black coach because so many of us come to

899
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: it with myopic emotional views driven by idiocy like geography

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00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: and personality expectations that have nothing to do with the

901
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: actual job. See Hanson had pro and anti Campston, the

902
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: as did Foster, as does Robinson. Waste too much energy. Also,

903
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: we might just be a little bit then energized or

904
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: exercise because we're a small country with not a lot

905
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: to think about. See in the NFL, which I follow,

906
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: As you well know, in the NFL at the moment

907
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: there are nine head coaching vacant. Nine after eight sackings

908
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: and one quitting. That's over a quarter of all jobs

909
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL are up for grabs, and that's not unusual.

910
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: I mean, as for the EPL, they're sacking somebody every

911
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: second day, as far as I can work out, well

912
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: I can't work out is when David Kirk says we

913
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: aren't where we need to be at this point of

914
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Speaker 2: the cycle. What does that mean? Where specifically do we

915
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: need to be? I mean, once upon a time when

916
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: the All Blacks won every test, as of right, we

917
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: still didn't go on and win the World Cup. So

918
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Speaker 2: presumably when we won everything, or we're winning everything, we

919
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: must have felt in a pretty good place. Didn't work

920
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: out well though, did it? Also? How is it Robinson

921
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: as banned from going elsewhere? I mean, this is the

922
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: great question that remains unanswered. How is he banned from

923
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: going elsewhere? In other words, he's not good enough to

924
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: coach us, but he's too dangerous to ply the trade off.

925
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: Suore now apart from paying him not to work and

926
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Speaker 2: that involves a tremendous amount of money. As far as

927
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Speaker 2: I know, I wouldn't have taken that deal. I would

928
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Speaker 2: have told him to get stuffed. Also, I can't work

929
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Speaker 2: out just how much this is player driven and of

930
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: the player feedback, how much is personal this is professional?

931
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Speaker 2: I mean, how much responsibility does a player have for

932
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: what happens on the field as opposed to a coach.

933
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: See back in the NFL there's a blow called Vrabel

934
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: who was sacked from Tennessee because they weren't winning, and

935
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Speaker 2: after he left, they still haven't been winning. But the

936
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: team he's gone to New England, who are playing today,

937
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: By the way, they were hopeless until a year ago.

938
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Speaker 2: They might now they'll probably win today, and if they do,

939
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: they'll go on to win one more game. They might

940
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: well be in the super Bowl. So is that him

941
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: or is it luck or other factors? See, someone always

942
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: seems to have to pay the price whenever someone else

943
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: decides things aren't right, which is the other weird bit.

944
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Speaker 2: The All Blacks winning record is an increasingly competitive world.

945
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad, so why the panic? Loyalty, consistency,

946
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: and longevity are all traits that are of value, but

947
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: you've got to recognize them. If you don't, you tend

948
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: to make mistakes by going run, sacking people with no

949
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: obvious next step in place asking that's the point. Who's next? Oh,

950
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Speaker 2: I don't know, haven't thought about that. But morning, Mike,

951
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. What's wrong with us? There's the question

952
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: we have a smooth operator in lux and we want

953
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: to replace him. It wasn't long ago when we dropped

954
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: another smooth operator, Bill English, and we got six years

955
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Speaker 2: of a doom.

956
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Speaker 4: Mike.

957
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: It's great to have you back again. I hope you

958
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: had a good holiday. I did, and I don't know

959
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: that it's that appropriate to mention at this particular point

960
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: in time, given what's happened in the last twenty four

961
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: hours or so. But I thought the weather was fantastic

962
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: and my part of the world, it was brilliant. When

963
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: I stood out there looking over the acreage, I thought, cheers.

964
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: I could use a bit of rain.

965
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 17: Then it right, he's quite the microclimate on.

966
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: The very microclimate. It'sh very very microclimate. But I had

967
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: all the rain I wanted, and I had all the

968
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: sun I wanted. I had some of the heat, had

969
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: some of the cool I just had the perfect weather

970
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: and I had the perfect was it all just had

971
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: a wide up or something?

972
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: Have you got like a little.

973
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: Map for what's done on what's going on? But I

974
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: was happy with it. I mean, obviously I feel bad

975
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: for you if you close the State Highway to on

976
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: the coast there up north. But apart from that, as

977
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 2: far as holidays goes, I had a very fine time.

978
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Speaker 2: Did I tell you I'm back two weeks early? Did

979
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: I mention that?

980
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 11: Yes?

981
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, thought so, I'm back two weeks early.

982
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: It's tough on power up on inside the Mike Hosking

983
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently since

984
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three news Togstad be printing thurn of the.

985
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: Throw from a right. There is no finer year than

986
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: an election year. Of course, in the Prime Minister has

987
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: the honor of calling that particular dat. He also, as

988
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: we've talked about, kicks off the year today with the

989
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: State of the Nation, and Christopher Luxel is with us.

990
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Mike, and yet tis bacurately, and

991
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm glad you recognized that fact. I came back two

992
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: weeks early, and we're going to get this country whipped

993
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: into shape. Now to turn around, look behind you at

994
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: the wall. Look, look what is that? That is the

995
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking breakfast calendar.

996
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 6: I love that that's up and about and I have

997
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 6: very much enjoyed your dinner trays as well, very nicely.

998
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: Are they working well, I'll send you a photo. Actually

999
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: they're calling that quality.

1000
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 6: I mean, are the thing is? I just you finished

1001
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 6: the place and then you're just looking at your ugly

1002
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 6: mugg at the Indiana bout'n.

1003
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: They mold nicely into the thigh they do.

1004
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 6: They've got that lovely bean bag of a nice consistence.

1005
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: Have you know, by the way, you gave me two

1006
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: calendars that one's there, so this place paid for that

1007
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: and put on some sort of sheep backing board. Yes,

1008
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: I took it down to a proper frame in my one.

1009
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: And that's in your garage. It's in the super Bowl,

1010
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: it's in the room, it's in the ballroom. So have

1011
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: you remembered your passwords for the day? I did? They

1012
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: had they changed my password because they did one of

1013
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: those longer ones. Yes, so that was when they do that.

1014
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: It's almost problematic, but I got there in the end,

1015
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: so We're good to see you anyway, and good to

1016
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: see you as well. Today's stay to the nation. Is

1017
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: it boring and lengthy or not?

1018
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 6: Well, it's really just a chance to lay up exactly

1019
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: where we are and what's going on. And yeah, I

1020
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 6: think everyone understands we inherit a hell of a mess,

1021
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 6: and we've had to fix a lot of the basics

1022
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 6: over the last two years. But yeah, you started to

1023
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 6: see all the leading indicators come right, and I think

1024
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 6: there's some really encouraging and positive things that the recovery

1025
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 6: is now actually underway.

1026
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: And so the question is do you want.

1027
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: To just watch a recovery take place, or do you

1028
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 6: actually want to build out and do the right reforms

1029
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 6: and things that we need to do to set the

1030
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 6: country up for a great future. So it's really this

1031
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 6: notion of how do we fix the basics and we've

1032
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 6: still got stuff we've got to continue to do daily

1033
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: in that area, but also how do we think about

1034
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 6: some of the challenges as countries had for thirty years

1035
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 6: and actually deal with those things that we need to

1036
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 6: build the future around.

1037
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: For the record, there will be no new policy today.

1038
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 6: We won't be announcing any policy, but want to I

1039
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 6: want to announce a framework and then there'll be more

1040
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 6: policies we go through the course of this year.

1041
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: No election date today, No, not today, but Wednesday.

1042
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 6: It'll come shortly.

1043
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: It will come Wednesday, very shortly, So Wednesday the retreat

1044
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 2: in christ Is there a reshuffle coming.

1045
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 6: Look, not at this point. There may well be in

1046
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 6: the next month or two. But I'll make that call

1047
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 6: just based off you know, we may have some retirements.

1048
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 4: We may have some.

1049
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 6: When you say you may have some retirements, do you well, no,

1050
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 6: I don't know, but we may well have some, in

1051
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 6: which case we might reshuffle some things around. But there's

1052
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 6: no need for me to feel a compunction.

1053
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: Christmas to all your troops. Listen, if anyone's going to

1054
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: retire an election year, let me know so it doesn't

1055
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: come out as a surprise.

1056
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 6: People make their own decisions, and they will start doing

1057
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 6: that at this time of the year. But you know,

1058
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 6: as I've said on reshuffles, I just make changes when

1059
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: I need to and when I need to feel like

1060
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: portfolios need to be reallocated.

1061
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: That okay, as far as the economy is concerned, I mean,

1062
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: it's Christmas kind of got in the way of the

1063
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: good news. I mean the FTA with India, you can't

1064
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: argue with that. That's nothing. I'm really excited about that.

1065
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 6: I mean, if you think through ten years from now,

1066
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: twenty years from now, what that means for New Zealand,

1067
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 6: that's Messif I mean, the Indians reckon they'll be the

1068
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 6: third biggest economy in twenty eight most economists think twenty thirty.

1069
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 6: And if you think about you know, just us participating,

1070
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 6: getting it on the ground floor, growing with the growing country. Yeah,

1071
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 6: they've got four hundred and forty million people sitting in

1072
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 6: their middle class. They reckon, they'll have seven hundred and

1073
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 6: fifty million by the end of the decade.

1074
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: That's huge for us. So in that is the interesting thing.

1075
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: So Peters wasn't particularly thrilled with the FTA, And this

1076
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: is going to be a theme this year, isn't it.

1077
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: How do you differentiate yourself between being Prime Minister and

1078
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: the leader of the National Party. How does he differentiate

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Speaker 2: himself between the leader of the you know, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: and David seymore the same without the media leaping on board,

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Speaker 2: going cracks in the coalition.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, yeah, exactly. It's it's actually called a mature MMP environment, right,

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Speaker 6: and it's rightly or wrongly, this is the electoral system

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Speaker 6: that we've selected over many years. You've got to make

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Speaker 6: it work. That means that you actually do need to

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Speaker 6: delegate responsibilities in government to different ministers. They will say

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Speaker 6: things slightly differently. As I've said from day one, that's

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Speaker 6: okay as long as you united around the core of

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Speaker 6: what you're doing in government, which we are around the

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Speaker 6: economy and law and order and health and education, all

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Speaker 6: that good stuff. But yeah, they need to also everyone

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Speaker 6: needs to have space in a party sense, to differentiate

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Speaker 6: and talk to their constituents and talk to their policies

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Speaker 6: and so yeah, just about you know, the compartmentalization of

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Speaker 6: that and being able to do that maturely.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it can be done maturely?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I do, I do.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think we've demonstrated that from day one.

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Speaker 6: I mean we've put a three party coalition together with

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Speaker 6: some big personalities parties that actually have differences, but actually

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Speaker 6: are very united on the core of what we're doing.

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Speaker 6: And I think you've got to You can't expect to

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Speaker 6: have a first pass the posts homogeneous sort of expression

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Speaker 6: on everything in an MMP environment. You don't see that

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Speaker 6: in Western Europe and the coalition governments that are formed there.

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Speaker 6: And I think we've managed it very well.

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Speaker 2: The poll out the other day on asset your idea

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Speaker 2: on selling some assets and rolling yeah, I was surprised

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Speaker 2: at how much support it's got. Yeah, I read that

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 6: I mean, again, what I was trying to foreshadow last

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Speaker 6: year was that you've got a choice. You've got money,

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Speaker 6: You've got a set of dollars, and the questions are

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Speaker 6: you getting the best return for those dollars? And New

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Speaker 6: Zealand needs a lot of assets and it needs a

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Speaker 6: lot of investment, and are you better to recycle assets

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Speaker 6: and redeploy funds to other purposes. But it was interesting

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Speaker 6: to see that I can't starting to understand that there

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Speaker 6: are choices that you get to make with money.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I think that's the forgotten middle class

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Speaker 2: of this country. There's a lot of people in this

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Speaker 2: country that understand concepts like that. They don't necessarily get

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Speaker 2: represented in the media or make the headlines or any

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Speaker 2: of that. People get it well.

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Speaker 6: They have to make those choices in their own family budgets,

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Speaker 6: or they are small business people making those choices in

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Speaker 6: their own businesses. They understand the use of money and

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Speaker 6: how you get better returns.

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Speaker 2: With campaigning on heart, because you're never going to get

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Speaker 2: it past Peter's is the problem. So therefore you've got

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Speaker 2: to calculate as good an idea as I might think

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Speaker 2: it may be. If I can't get it past my

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Speaker 2: coalition partner, what's the point because you've got other fish

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Speaker 2: to pry in a campaign.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think if you know and we'll think

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Speaker 6: it through as we go through the course of the year.

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Speaker 6: That's one of the things that you could argue is

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Speaker 6: about building the future because you actually could take that

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Speaker 6: capital that's tied up in those assets. Some of those

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Speaker 6: assets will be underperforming, some will be performing fine and

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Speaker 6: actually say can you do better things with it? Well,

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Speaker 6: I think we should make the case for that now

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Speaker 6: at the end of the day. Then you've got to

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Speaker 6: be brutally pragmatic when you come to a coalition formation

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Speaker 6: after an election. That's why I'm going to make the

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Speaker 6: case very strongly as you'll get sick of hearing us

1148
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 6: say you know that you should party vote National because

1149
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Speaker 6: that's actually going to be the thing that will give

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Speaker 6: you the strongest, stable government.

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Speaker 2: Criticism over the holiday period was you were absent when

1152
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Speaker 2: the world was going through some its current tumult Your

1153
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: view on Venezuela illegal or not?

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Speaker 6: Ultimately for the US to explain. We want all countries

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Speaker 6: comply with international law. It's up for them to explain.

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Speaker 6: We're not a fan of Maduro. In fact, our New

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Speaker 6: Zealand has never supported that regime.

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Speaker 3: A pretty bad dude.

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Speaker 6: Cause a lot of pain and suffering inside Venezuela. Now

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Speaker 6: it's really about what comes.

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Speaker 2: Next there Greenland illegal or not. Well, again, we're not.

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Speaker 6: A supporter of tariff's whatsoever. We think that's just bad

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Speaker 6: news for the global economy. I think that leads to

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Speaker 6: a spiraling that's not good for the world. We want

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Speaker 6: transatlantic relationships to be positive. It's a New Zealand's interest

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Speaker 6: for that to be so. And I think frankly, sitting

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Speaker 6: down and having a discussion about Arctic security concerns and

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Speaker 6: how NATO works together on that, which includes the US

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Speaker 6: and the Europeans, would be the sensible thing to do.

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Speaker 2: But do you worry about NATO future?

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Speaker 6: Well no, I mean I've been to a couple of

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Speaker 6: NATO meetings now as a guest and I've been really

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Speaker 6: impressed to see them all stepping up their collective responsibility,

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Speaker 6: which they've desperately needed to do. They were in a

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Speaker 6: place where they were freeloading, and now as a result,

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Speaker 6: they have made some serious commitments to edge towards closer

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Speaker 6: to five percent of GDP on defense spending, you know,

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Speaker 6: in a place like Greenland, and if there are genuine

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Speaker 6: concerns from the US around Arctic security, you know, it's

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Speaker 6: very clear the Greenlanders want to be part of Denmark.

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Speaker 6: That is their decision. Is a sovereign nation to make

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Speaker 6: that decision. The US, you know, I think the use

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Speaker 6: of tariff isn't great, but they should get into discussion

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Speaker 6: and through the concerns they actually have.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're heading The best line I read

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Speaker 2: over the period was the Age of the Empires? Do

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Speaker 2: you think we're heading back to the age of the Empires?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an interesting discourse. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: The system that we've had for the last seventy years

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Speaker 6: is rupturing big time, and I think that's a really

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Speaker 6: big call to action for New Zealand to say, look,

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Speaker 6: let's control what we can control, and what we can

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Speaker 6: control is building out a stronger economy here at home,

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Speaker 6: and what we can control is actually diversifying and developing

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Speaker 6: deeper partnerships and relationships abroad. And our relative position because

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Speaker 6: all one hundred and ninety five countries are dealing with

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Speaker 6: the challenges that are out there in the world today,

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Speaker 6: is actually very strong. We have what the world wants,

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Speaker 6: we have the values that people aspire to have. We're

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Speaker 6: seen as a good, reliable partner, and you know, we

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Speaker 6: can do well for ourselves. So you know, that's why

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Speaker 6: the call to action to say, we've got to continue

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Speaker 6: to fix the basics, make New Zealand stronger at home here,

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Speaker 6: Let's focus on what we can focus on and control

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Speaker 6: what we can control, and then build out a broader

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Speaker 6: set of relationships, which is why we've been out there

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Speaker 6: hustling right from day one over the last two years

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Speaker 6: to set those opportunities up for the country.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I know it's challenging.

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Speaker 6: I know a lot of listeners will be feeling anxious

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Speaker 6: about what's going on in the world. But let's control

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Speaker 6: what we can control, and we have a fantastic future

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Speaker 6: and we've got a lot of potential that's got to

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Speaker 6: get realized in this country, and that's the exciting work

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Speaker 6: ahead of us.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be quite the year. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be fun, good stuff. It's nice to sketch up with.

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Speaker 2: You appreciate it. Crystal likes fourteen to.

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Speaker 2: Talks it be living away from Mike. You's such an

1222
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: optimistic sod. Hard to say it, but glad you're back.

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Speaker 2: Did you go overseas, Mike? If so, please share, No,

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I am going overseas this year and in

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Speaker 2: that is probably one of the more tumultuous story of

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Speaker 2: my life. Fiscally speaking, I honestly don't know how people

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Speaker 2: afford to travel anymore. But nevertheless, that's for another day.

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Speaker 11: Mike.

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Speaker 2: If you had read Gregor Pool's article in The Herald

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Speaker 2: last Friday, you would have had your questions about Robertson, answered, well,

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Speaker 2: I did both. I don't know. I didn't have answers

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Speaker 2: answered my questions answered. I did read Gregor Pool's article.

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Speaker 2: I just happened to disagree with it. My meanmies entitled

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Speaker 2: his opinion, but I didn't come to the same conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Mike. Shouldn't be shouldn't we be aiming for

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Speaker 2: a lower dollar to help our exporters in the overall

1237
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Speaker 2: New Zealand economy. It's complicated with the essential imports side,

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00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: but the rest of us as a nation need to

1239
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: suck it up and cut back the New Zealand dollar

1240
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Speaker 2: being swanded overseas. No, what we should be aiming for

1241
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Speaker 2: is a dollar that represents and reflects a strong New

1242
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: Zealand economy. And that's why the going back to the

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Speaker 2: Australian scenario, the reason their dollar will ascend this year,

1244
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 2: allegedly is because the world sees their economy as relatively strong,

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Speaker 2: and good luck to them for it, but ours isn't

1246
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: seen in the same way. And yes, it's good for exporters.

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00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: The lower our dollar goes, the better for exporters, but

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: it comes to point where it becomes so anemic. We

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00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: look third world, and we don't want to look third world.

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Speaker 2: And of course, unfortunately, as much as we would like

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Speaker 2: it to be different, we actually import more than we export.

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Speaker 2: So that's why we've got trade deficits and so therefore

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Speaker 2: the lower the dollar, the more expensive it does becomes

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Speaker 2: to do business. Importing stuff. So as long as we

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: import more stuff than we sell, then the exact opposite

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00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: should apply. We need a stronger dollar, but the dollar

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00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: is reflected. It's basically the world's view of us in

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Speaker 2: at eighty five Australian forty two p. The world's view

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Speaker 2: of us is not that good and that needs to change.

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Speaker 2: Nine to eight The make.

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Speaker 3: Asking, breakfast with the Defender and use togs Headbshi.

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Speaker 2: Mike, welcome back. Do you think we need to focus

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Speaker 2: on the defense budget at all? Not to attack another nation,

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Speaker 2: but enough so we're a hard nut to crack if

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Speaker 2: it ever came to that. I think we're already doing that,

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Speaker 2: aren't we didn't what's the announcement? I can't remember the

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Speaker 2: exact number due to columns in charge of all that

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Speaker 2: these days, but we've gone from something like two percent, well,

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Speaker 2: going from two percent?

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Speaker 11: Is it four?

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Speaker 2: I want to say it only was five, but it

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Speaker 2: was four over a period of time. We're buying bits

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Speaker 2: and pieces and drones and stuff like that, so I

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Speaker 2: think we're trying morning Micah. Private companies own our assets.

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Speaker 2: Where do all the profits go? The answer is in

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00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: their pockets, obviously, which I think is why the poll

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Speaker 2: that I was mentioning earlier on had a bigger number

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Speaker 2: fifty two percent if the person buying the assets was

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Speaker 2: local as opposed to international. But I mean, private companies

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Speaker 2: do it for profit. They bank the profits. But also

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00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: you've got to remember they one run things better, therefore

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00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: they expand, therefore they employ. But they also, because they

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: run things better, make more money, therefore pay more tax. Mike.

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Speaker 2: The Iranian protests and uprising the most significant US to date.

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Speaker 2: Imagine a world without Islamic regime funding terrorism. Why is

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00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 2: our media not covering the biggest happenings at the moment.

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00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what media you follow, but it's about

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00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: the biggest story in the world and has been for

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Speaker 2: a number of days now. The great sadness was I

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Speaker 2: genuinely thought Venezuela is going to come to nothing. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, we did it for the cocaine. That's

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Speaker 2: not true. They care less about the cocaine. They did

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Speaker 2: it for the oil. And we all know that. I

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Speaker 2: have another theory around the Venezuela thing that I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you about another day. It's got to do with vote rigging,

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Speaker 2: but that's for another day anyway. So Venezuela's for that reason.

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Speaker 2: Colombia and Cuba, I mean, they'll cut some sort of

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Speaker 2: deal there. They're there, to put it in the vernacular,

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Speaker 2: they're piscent, little operators that no one really cares about,

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Speaker 2: so they'll get that sorted. Greenland. I'm convinced that that

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Speaker 2: a deal will be cut with NATO, the lincreased resources,

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Speaker 2: America will have a greater presence. No one's buying anything.

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Speaker 2: But Iran was my great hope. I thought of all

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Speaker 2: the so called historic things that might be unfolding in

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Speaker 2: front of our eyes at the moment. The fall of

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Speaker 2: the regime in Iran seemed just fleetingly there two or

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Speaker 2: three days ago to be a real thing, because the

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Speaker 2: eye toll is gone, and even the people in Iraq

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Speaker 2: are sick of him, and the moment he dies, you've

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Speaker 2: got a vacuum, and so fill the vacuum before he dies.

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Speaker 2: And I thought something significant, as in genuinely historic, was

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Speaker 2: about to unfold. Whether it involved America dropping some stuff

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Speaker 2: on people, I wasn't sure. But Trump clearly has chickened

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Speaker 2: out of that. I don't know why. I'm assuming because

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Speaker 2: his resources are limited and he can't do it or

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Speaker 2: whatever he was looking to do, he can't do it

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Speaker 2: at the moment. But I thought of all the good

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Speaker 2: things that might happen in the world, that could be

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Speaker 2: one of them. For now, I think that's momentarily off now.

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Speaker 2: Some sport plenty there I The commentary box next.

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Speaker 1: Opinionated, Informed, unapologetic, the mic asking, Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, communities,

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Speaker 1: life your Way, news talks head been sprung.

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Speaker 5: It no wrong, no Huntin's environments like the AUDENTI y

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Speaker 5: you can't disaggregate them and say this was right and

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Speaker 5: that was wrong.

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Speaker 2: The environment is either working or it isn't.

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Speaker 18: And the league leaders have been knocked up for just

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Speaker 18: the third time this season. It's been ashed Melbourne City too,

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Speaker 18: Baltland won and the full time whistle goes on a

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Speaker 18: statement when for the Wellington they have spoiled the homecoming

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Speaker 18: Visitney mcn.

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Speaker 17: I can see that that shut up his dull and

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Speaker 17: we get just got any bills.

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Speaker 2: So brilliance in the field from Glenn Philips finishes off

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Speaker 2: the series and a famous when for you.

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Speaker 11: See that.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past day time four The Money Morning

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Speaker 2: Commentary Box Andrew svel and Jason Piner both well this fellows,

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Speaker 2: good morning and happy new year.

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Speaker 11: Welcome thanks to you, Mike morning, welcome back. Ge whiz,

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Speaker 11: g whiz. What a pleasant surprise.

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Speaker 2: Now two weeks early. I'm so, I'm so emboldened with

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Speaker 2: the joys of life. I couldn't wait to get back.

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Speaker 19: Is this because there was a landslide of emails and

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Speaker 19: messages on social to management mean for you to come back?

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01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: Or what was the modesty prevents modesty prevents me confirming that.

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 2: But just quickly, because I'm not actually okay, quick question,

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Speaker 2: what was the most uplifting piece of sporting information I

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Speaker 2: saw over the summer period?

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Speaker 11: And go.

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Speaker 3: Cheapess.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you a clue. Let me give you

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Speaker 2: a clue. It wasn't a game or a result. It

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01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: was a person in what they said.

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Speaker 11: Hmm.

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Speaker 16: Was it the way David Kirk fronted the media the

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Speaker 16: other day, that's just a stab in the dark, and.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not a bad stab in the dark. It

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Speaker 2: was kwaja, husband, kwaja, And I was doing my sit

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Speaker 2: ups and you'll appreciate this, Andrew, I was doing I

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Speaker 2: was doing my sit ups and I happened to have

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Speaker 2: the television on. It was early hours of the morning

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Speaker 2: in the middle of you know, just before Christmas and

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Speaker 2: Kwaja announced his retirement. He did his press conference and

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Speaker 2: Sky News were taking the press conference live. Now I'm

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01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: not I'm not a big cricket fan and never really

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Speaker 2: have been, in far less a support of the Australians,

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01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: but so I'd never heard Kowaja speak. But what an articulate, bright, insightful,

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Speaker 2: in engaging individual he is and the way.

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Speaker 11: It all out there. Didn't he didn't.

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Speaker 19: He had a crack it. He had a crack at

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Speaker 19: quite a few people. And I suppose he had pent

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Speaker 19: up after all those years of facing you know, facing

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Speaker 19: a lot of stuff online and from other opponents and

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01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 19: what have you, you know, sledging on the field and stuff.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he just had an up, I suppose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I thought not. He gave it to everybody,

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01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: but he did it in a very articulate way, and

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Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked his style. Do you you

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Speaker 2: ever heard him talk, Jason, Do you.

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Speaker 11: Know him at all?

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Speaker 12: Who?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 11: No, I don't know if I have heard him talk before?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, but I thought, you know, I mean, normally if

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Speaker 16: a guy gives six and seven minute answers in a

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Speaker 16: press conference. You start to not off, don't you, but

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Speaker 16: totally compelling And yeah, like saf said, he obviously had

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Speaker 16: a bit to say. He knew this was his opportunity,

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Speaker 16: and I think he took it well. And look he's polarizing,

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Speaker 16: but I yeah, very this.

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Speaker 19: Is obviously at the start of your situps, because if

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Speaker 19: it was near the end, you wouldn't understand what he

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 19: was saying because you'd be so unt.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what I kept I kept doing the sit

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Speaker 2: ups just as long as he kept talking. Looking so

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Speaker 2: by the time I got three hundred and twenty five.

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Speaker 2: You know, That's why I've got the abs I've got.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, this morning, where are you putting this?

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Speaker 2: Obviously you won't be on there tonight, Andrew, because you'll

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01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: be seemingly permanently off. But if you were putting the

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Speaker 2: bulletin together tonight, where would the cricket from this morning go?

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01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: Is that a big deal?

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01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 11: I think that would have to be time.

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01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 19: I mean, Dan Hilly, you're finishing second in his first

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 19: tournament of the year, starting where he left off last year,

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 19: is a great achievement. But beating India in India pretty strong.

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01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 19: Indian team with Coley leading the way, you would have

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01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 19: to put that at the top. Never done before.

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Speaker 2: No, that's true.

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Speaker 16: Darryl Mitchell. Darryl Mitchell got Darryl Mitchell has to be

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01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 16: one of our best all format batters now, doesn't he?

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Speaker 16: Every time he bats for New Zealand, regardless of the format.

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01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 16: I mean, the guy's got two hundreds in the series

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Speaker 16: and eighty in the other one. He's so unassuming but

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Speaker 16: so effective. I just think he's such a valuable cricketer.

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Speaker 16: Now this is massive. I mean a series win in India,

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 16: you know in the one day format, never been done yet?

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Speaker 2: Answer me this then, Andrew, forty thousand dollars you get

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Speaker 2: for a loss in round one of qualifying. This is

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Speaker 2: the Australian Open. So if you lose and round one

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01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: of qualifying, how do you get in? I can't anyone

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Speaker 2: into the qualifying? Would you have to do something?

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01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 11: You got to have a man. There's a ranking cutoff.

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01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 11: So if you wanted to inter, oh.

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Speaker 2: Because I thought an easy forty, I just needed the qualifying,

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01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: I'd lose.

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Speaker 11: I get forty grand I think you need an easy

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Speaker 11: forty quite frankly, but no I need a rank. It

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Speaker 11: you need. You have to you have to be ranked.

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Speaker 11: I reckon probably around two hundred and three hundred to

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Speaker 11: get into qualifying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Katie went in and bought me and us, actually

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: both of us, tennis records. Not I think, all, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we're doing peckle, we're doing peckle and paddle. But we

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Speaker 2: needed tennis records. And so she went and bought and

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Speaker 2: I said to her, you goes, I'm going to buy

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Speaker 2: tennis records, and I said, go in and get me

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Speaker 2: a Wilson hammer because the last time I the last

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Speaker 2: time I played that. Oh my god, there's the story,

1441
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 2: because I said, I said, last time I was playing,

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Speaker 2: I was played with Wilson hammer. She walks into the

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01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: shop and she goes, I want to Wilson hammer, and

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01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: the guy burst out laughing. He goes, what did an

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Speaker 2: old person ask you to buy that? And she goes,

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Speaker 2: As it turns out, yes he did, because he goes,

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Speaker 2: we haven't made Wilson hammers for twenty years.

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Speaker 11: You might as well have asked for an Honie parn

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01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 11: wooden gun.

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Speaker 3: What are your racket?

1451
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: Rose will Nass?

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01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 16: Are you going to play against one another? Taurus A

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Speaker 16: mixed doubles.

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Speaker 2: Combat certainly not mixed doubles. I can't I can't stand

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Speaker 2: mixed doubles. And the day that I run this country,

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01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: mixed doubles are going to be banned. But we're going

1457
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: to play each other. And so we're playing in pickle,

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: we're playing in paddle, and we're now going to undertake.

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Speaker 11: The especial your tennis careers back on.

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Speaker 2: It's back on, Andrew.

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Speaker 11: And so once after I blew out both you knees

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Speaker 11: in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Once I've got a vibe for how good I can

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Speaker 2: be once again, and the master's section, I'm going to

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01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: give me underived. So I'm going to give you a

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Speaker 2: call and I'm going to get you on the corner.

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Speaker 11: Records these days are so light, aren't they? They're amazing?

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Speaker 2: Can I be honest? Ink Spot couldn't agree more. But

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Speaker 2: the record I wanted was not the big sweet spot one.

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Speaker 2: This was the thing about the Wilson Hammers. You had

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Speaker 2: to create your own speed. And I don't like a

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Speaker 2: big sweet spot because it just goes ping ping, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not into that. But I do you know what

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Speaker 2: you pay for a top line tennis record these days?

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 11: Ah At least a grand eight hundred.

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: You can't break three hundred, right, you're struggling full price.

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Speaker 2: If you got ripped off and they saw you coming,

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01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: you'd be lucky to come close to five. When I

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: played like twenty five years ago, you're paying six seven

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Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars for a tennis record, whereas now the

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Speaker 2: cheapest chips.

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Speaker 11: Okay, hey, we haven't done.

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Speaker 2: What's that guy's name? I used to coach the All Blacks?

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Speaker 2: We should talk about him too, shouldn't we? Probably brief

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Speaker 2: break more in a moment.

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Speaker 2: All right, so, Jason, you guys both rugby experts more

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Speaker 2: so than me. So Jason, do you, as you sit

1495
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Speaker 2: here this morning, have an explanation that you understand from

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Speaker 2: David Kirk that involves Scott Robertson And are you complete

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01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 2: in that understanding and therefore what they want to do,

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Speaker 2: why they didn't and where we're at.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I do have an understanding of it, probably largely

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Speaker 16: because of the way David Kirk explained it. You have

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Speaker 16: to look beyond the numbers, because, as has been bandied

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Speaker 16: around a lot, the winning record was pretty good compared

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Speaker 16: to other international coaches over the same period. Only Rassy

1504
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 16: Erasmus had had a better winning percentage, So you have

1505
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 16: to look beyond what happened on the scoreboard. The couple

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01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 16: of words I think that probably firmed up the understanding

1507
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 16: that David Kirk used were trajectory, where was this team going?

1508
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 16: And this He also said this team is not on track.

1509
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 16: So I think they looked into the future and made

1510
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 16: the decision that this team wasn't going in the in

1511
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 16: the direction that they wanted, and I think he showed

1512
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 16: some pretty strong leadership and making them very very tough.

1513
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: Next question for you, then, is why is Robertson being

1514
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: paid to do nothing? If he's not good enough to

1515
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 2: coach the All Blacks, why can't he get on do

1516
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: his own thing?

1517
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 11: He's not allowed to coach Tier one team?

1518
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: Think no, no, but why?

1519
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 11: And I think it's all the end of the year.

1520
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 19: I would imagine Neil Blacks don't want to use losing

1521
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 19: the intellectual property to other national teams.

1522
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 2: But I would have told I would if you're in

1523
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: that position, if you're not good enough to work with

1524
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: me anymore and you're going to cancel my contract, you

1525
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: pay me the difference of the contract because you breached

1526
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: the contract, and I'm free to go on my way.

1527
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 11: Yep, he's obviously agreed to. Yeah, those clauses look Mike.

1528
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 19: For some in the game to say they're shocked by this,

1529
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 19: I think clearly they don't have the year to the

1530
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 19: ground enough. They've been ruction in this team, even from

1531
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 19: that first series in twenty twenty four against the English.

1532
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Speaker 19: I'd heard talk out of the camp then and it

1533
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 19: hasn't got better. Over coaching, lack of clarity, confusion.

1534
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,839
Speaker 11: Breakdown, and a breakdown in some of the relationships with players.

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 19: I'd heard after the Northern Tour that from very reliable

1536
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 19: sources that he had last ninety percent of the dressing room.

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01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 11: As soon as that happens, you're gone, right.

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01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 16: I don't think he's become a bad I don't think

1539
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 16: he's become a bad.

1540
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Speaker 19: Coach right, just not in the right environment though, because

1541
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 19: when you when you get into the All Blacks, which

1542
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 19: is still one of the best sports teams in the world,

1543
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 19: there's a there's an expectation from players, especially that the

1544
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 19: coaches as a leader, the coach coaches with with with

1545
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 19: a clear head, the coach treats everybody the same, the

1546
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 19: coach that he is to all Black standards which have

1547
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 19: been built over years and years and years, and that

1548
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 19: didn't happen.

1549
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so Josh, yep, sorry, who's next? Who's your pack?

1550
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 16: I know there's a lot of a lot of clamor

1551
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 16: for Jamie Joseph. I think Jamie Joseph with Tony Brown

1552
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 16: is a very different proposition from Jamie Joseph without Tony Brown.

1553
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 16: And you know, depending on who you're who you listen

1554
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 16: to out of the Republic, Tony Brown is staying put

1555
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 16: and I think that's probably quite a good idea for him.

1556
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 16: I really like the idea of Dave Rennie being involved somewhere,

1557
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 16: whether that be as a head coach or part of

1558
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 16: a coaching team. You know, he was doing good things

1559
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 16: with Australia until they, you know, inexplicably wanted to get

1560
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 16: Eddie Jones back in there, so I quite like the

1561
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 16: idea of Dave Rennie. I think they'll probably go with

1562
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 16: Jamie Joseph, but yeah, that's kind of.

1563
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: My what's you call, Andrew?

1564
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Speaker 19: I think most importantly, even more important, I think than

1565
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 19: the appointment of an All Backs coaches, they've got to

1566
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 19: get this next high performance manager right.

1567
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 11: That position's open.

1568
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 19: I'm not too sure in the near future if the

1569
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 19: general manager of Pro rugby position becomes open, but if

1570
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 19: it does, are the three key jobs in New Zealand rugby.

1571
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 11: They've got to get those right.

1572
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 19: I'd love to see a guy like Joe Schmidt, not

1573
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 19: necessarily be appointed to the coaching group because I don't

1574
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 19: know if he wants to do that, but maybe be

1575
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 19: appointed as high performance manager or another management position.

1576
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 11: All those three have to be aligned.

1577
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 19: There's been a breakdown for a number of years and

1578
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 19: the development of players and pathway players, it seems overall, Mike,

1579
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 19: I think, yes, the All Blacks have been winning, but

1580
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 19: from what I understand, some of the players believe can't

1581
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 19: believe how they're carrying on, how they've been carrying on

1582
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 19: winning despite what's been happening at the top of that team.

1583
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 19: So they've got to get these posit all these positions right,

1584
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 19: and I think under David Kirk, you'd like to think

1585
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 19: they will.

1586
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Kirk. I don't have time for this, Jason,

1587
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: but I'll ask you anyway. Maybe carry it on next week?

1588
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: What's going on with sport? Cricket resignation, netball resignation, railing

1589
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: Castle reappointment, what the hell's going on?

1590
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good question.

1591
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 16: Our three top sports don't have a CEO?

1592
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,560
Speaker 11: What is going on? Right? Think about it?

1593
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 16: But yeah, yeah, it just feels Yeah, it's an old

1594
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 16: way to start a new year, isn't it. But I'm

1595
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 16: sure there'll be lots of chat about across good.

1596
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: If I start next week's segment banging on about myself again,

1597
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: just reminds me that's what I wanted to actually talk about.

1598
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 11: Let's I think I think today we should have flipped

1599
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 11: it around.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, but the big question is should I should I

1601
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 19: get my Russell Simpson scalar up all stars out of

1602
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 19: the garage and start.

1603
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: Tell you what I'm feelings.

1604
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 11: I feel it? Can I feel a rematch coming on?

1605
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 11: I am coming to watch that.

1606
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 16: I'm coming to watch that.

1607
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 11: When that happens. I need to do only the game.

1608
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: The only question mark I have is payce of serve

1609
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: At this point it used to be as you remember,

1610
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 2: say two twenty two thirty k's each time, But I

1611
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: just worry about the tennis and elbow now.

1612
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 11: And same with me.

1613
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 19: I'd need I'd need several courtazone shots into the old

1614
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 19: right shoulder to get that wound up again. But I

1615
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 19: think there'd be a lot of interest in it. I

1616
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 19: think we'd be paid exhibition prices.

1617
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: I reckon it'll be big money there. I'm going to

1618
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Speaker 2: get on to wats his face who had his leg

1619
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Speaker 2: or his face broken with that boxing the other day,

1620
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Speaker 2: and get some advice on that. Anyway, Nice to see

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Speaker 2: you guys. A twenty three.

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Speaker 2: poll out this morning. Although not remotely surprising for Albanezi

1646
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Speaker 2: over the business at Bonda, what an absolute cockup that was.

1647
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Speaker 2: So we'll give you the numbers and we'll catch up

1648
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Speaker 2: with Steve Price, but moments away on the My Asking

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Here at News Talk ZEDB Town Fast and only Twice.

1650
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Speaker 2: By the way, there's a program that's been around for

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Speaker 2: a long time. The NFL playoffs continue today. Our first

1655
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Speaker 2: games at nine o'clock this morning, second games at midday,

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Speaker 2: and there's a program called Hard Knocks which has been

1657
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Speaker 2: going on. It's on HBO, which is channel ten on

1658
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Speaker 2: your Sky platform if you're into that, or Neon does

1659
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Speaker 2: the whole series all at once, but the new part

1660
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Speaker 2: is a thing called Hard Knocks in season if you're

1661
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. And this year they've first time up,

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Speaker 2: They've done the NFC East. It's got Philadelphia, Dallas, Washington,

1663
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Speaker 2: New York. The only reason I mentioned that it's a

1664
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Speaker 2: fascinating insight into how teams work. It's not necessarily about

1665
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Speaker 2: the game and who won and who didn't lose them

1666
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Speaker 2: as it turns out, most of the lost because the useless.

1667
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Speaker 2: But it's how teams work, which is if you're into

1668
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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. It's I found it fascinating and

1669
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Speaker 2: it's current because the last episode includes Philadelphia and their

1670
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Speaker 2: playoff game, which was only last week. So the six

1671
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Speaker 2: episode series has been made as of late and remains

1672
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Speaker 2: current to this day. So if you're looking for something

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Speaker 2: to watch, Neon or HBO twenty two to.

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Speaker 1: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business, time to catch up with her.

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Speaker 2: Old mate Steve Price. Morning made Happy New Year.

1677
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Speaker 7: Happy New Year to you. Yes we're all back.

1678
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Speaker 2: Good on you the part. I mean several holiday questions

1679
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 2: for you, the most obvious one of which is how

1680
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: is it that Elbanezi could have misread the Australian mood

1681
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: over anti emotism and the radicalization of Australia under his watch?

1682
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 7: So badly simple answer to that question and has been

1683
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 7: put by others in these terms, he throws, So Bondai

1684
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 7: happens tragically, fifteen people gunned down. It was a due

1685
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 7: hatred crime. Obviously, it was Faranaka being celebrated on Bondai

1686
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 7: Beach and the Prime Minister didn't know what to do.

1687
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 7: And you mentioned the poll. I mean his approval rating

1688
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 7: has crashed. It's the lowest approval rating since late twenty

1689
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 7: twenty four and early twenty twenty five. And he just

1690
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 7: didn't know how to lead. And he spent week after

1691
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Speaker 7: week after week saying we don't need a royal commission.

1692
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,879
Speaker 7: When anybody, everybody realized that we didn't need a royal commission.

1693
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Speaker 7: And you know, it wasn't until a campaign that started

1694
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 7: and went for over a week where you had sporting stars,

1695
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 7: business leaders, you know, everyone from James Packerd down to

1696
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 7: ex labor MPs. They all came out and said we

1697
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 7: have to have a royal commission. And so finally he

1698
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 7: had to cave in and we'll get to in a

1699
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 7: moment what he's decided to do because parliament's back today.

1700
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 7: But that said, is approval rating absolutely collapsed. I mean,

1701
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 7: the most interesting thing for me in this news follow

1702
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 7: is one Nation. So the major parties everyone's just deserving them.

1703
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 7: One Nation has now gone up its primary votes up

1704
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 7: seven percent to twenty two over the last news follow

1705
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 7: was last year, coalitions down three to twenty one. So

1706
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 7: one Nation is in front of the coalition when it

1707
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 7: comes to the primary vote and a Labour's sitting at

1708
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 7: thirty two. No one has ever seen that, no one

1709
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 7: would have ever thought back, and now there's even discussion

1710
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 7: and where it goes or not that the I mean

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Speaker 7: one nation is going to have going to be duchessed

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Speaker 7: by the coalition and we might see the Nationals, the

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Speaker 7: Liberals and one nation joined. Get it.

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Speaker 2: But the question is, and this is the question I

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Speaker 2: ask British correspondent as regards reform and the defections to

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Speaker 2: that particular party when it comes down to it election day,

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Speaker 2: is it real?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's real only in the fact that, unlike the UK,

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01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 7: we have preferential voting. So if you're a one if

1720
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 7: you've deserted the National Party or the Liberal Party, more

1721
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 7: likely and put your hand up when you're asked in

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01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 7: a poll where you're going to vote, who are going

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 7: to vote? Gold you say one nation? You're likely then

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Speaker 7: to preference, are you not either the Liberals or the Nationals.

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01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 7: And so the flow of preferences would mean that the

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Speaker 7: one nation support, while strong and real, could mean that

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 7: it would actually benefit the coalition.

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Speaker 2: See the interesting thing about reform and Britain as they're

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01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: pulling and they pulled in a former Chancellor from the

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01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 2: Tories that Jinrik has crossed the party. See Hanson's only

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: got Joys and so they're left with a bunch of

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01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: dump the doos out of rural Australia. Are they the

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01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: party if they actually got the vote that could actually

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Speaker 2: perform politically.

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Speaker 7: Well, they won't govern. I think you're a little harsh

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Speaker 7: on them. I mean I had the cheapest stuff falling

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01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 7: Hanson on the Sky Show late last year, no, actually

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Speaker 7: this year because I was filling in for Andrew Bob

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01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 7: and he said they've got at least two maybe three

1740
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 7: new other star candidates that are well known to Australians,

1741
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 7: whether they're ex politicians or what that are going to

1742
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,919
Speaker 7: join the One Nation and they'll progressively announce those signings

1743
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 7: in the next couple of weeks. So we're just going

1744
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 7: to have to wait and see. I mean, we're one

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01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 7: nation govern Australian note course stop. Will they join a coalition?

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01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 7: Probably not. What it probably means is that Labor, even

1747
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 7: though their primary voters down in Anthony but he's widely unpopular,

1748
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 7: will get re elected in the next election, which is

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01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 7: still a couple of years.

1750
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: AWA interesting tied in with Elbow and the Royal Commission

1751
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: is of course this hate speech stuff, and the support

1752
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: seems to have collapsed, certainly from the Greens. Does that

1753
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: go anywhere? And if it does, how does he make

1754
01:20:59,120 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 2: it go anywhere?

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01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 7: We've got two days. There's condolence motions in the Parliament

1756
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 7: today for the tourist attack upon night, so that will

1757
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 7: take of all of today's parliamentary sitting. The bill itself

1758
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 7: will be introduced tomorrow. The original plan by Anthony albernizi

1759
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 7: flawed and hopeless as it is, was that the bill

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Speaker 7: had passed the lower House because obviously Labour's got a

1761
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 7: massive majority, and it would get to the Senate, and

1762
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 7: his hope in the beginning was that the Coalition would

1763
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 7: support it and so to freeze through the Senate. They

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01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 7: had become law over two days and they'd all go

1765
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 7: away and come back when parliament's supposed to resume. But

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01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 7: no one's supporting this bill. Anthony Alberze added gun laws

1767
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 7: into it that upset the Nationals. No one wanted that,

1768
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 7: and then you've got this passage in the bill that

1769
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 7: no one likes, which is you can still, if you're

1770
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 7: reading direct from a religious text, speak of hatred toward people,

1771
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 7: and everyone's gone, well, what's the point exactly? And if

1772
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 7: you can sit around and read out of whatever the

1773
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 7: Bible kround whatever it is hate speech toward people and

1774
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 7: then your laws are hopeless. So he hasn't really changed

1775
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 7: that either, and so this thing's just going to go nowhere.

1776
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 7: The Royal Commission will start and I don't know what

1777
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 7: the point of going back today actually is when you

1778
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 7: think about it, because no one's going to vote for it.

1779
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: No other holiday question I have for you, especially for you,

1780
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: given you from Adelaide, how does the Writers' Festival turn

1781
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: into the calamitous shambles of heirs?

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01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just there's a brilliant piece written by

1783
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 7: a next edit of the Age, Michael Gwenda who is

1784
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 7: Jewish himself, in the Australian Today, which anyone wants to

1785
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 7: read that online that explains it all. But you know,

1786
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 7: in the wake of Bondi, the people organizing the festival

1787
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 7: thought it'd be a good idea to disinvite a woman

1788
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 7: who has been anti Israel forever. She is a hates Zionism,

1789
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 7: and so when she got told not to turn up,

1790
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty of the other writers.

1791
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: I did not to turn up.

1792
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 7: Then the board quit, then the chairman quit, and Nolten

1793
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 7: got cancer.

1794
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: Unreal. Final holiday question for you the banning of the

1795
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: under sixteens on social media with the passing of a

1796
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: little bit of time over the Christmas period. Do we

1797
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: have a verdict yet as to whether it's worked well.

1798
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 7: The big social media organizations are putting out stats trying

1799
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 7: to prove that they've done the right thing, and a

1800
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 7: whole lot of accounts have been closed. But when you

1801
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 7: listen to any talkback radio in the country over summer,

1802
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 7: you get parents ringing up every five minutes saying, I

1803
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 7: will had no impact on my fifteen year old because

1804
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 7: he's found himself a new account on whatever side he

1805
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 7: wants to be on. And they're all too smart, these kids,

1806
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 7: and they.

1807
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 3: Got around it.

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01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't have children of that age anymore,

1809
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 7: so I don't know. But it doesn't seem to work.

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01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 11: Not.

1811
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: How's that weather been for yours? I watched those cars

1812
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: wash away on the Ocean Road the other day. What's

1813
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: going on there?

1814
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 7: Well, I'm down there. I'm going to drive through that

1815
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 7: part of the world today. It was horrendous and it

1816
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 7: came out of over one hundred and eighty three millimeters

1817
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 7: of rain in an hour on the top of a

1818
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 7: mountain range that runs down to the coast. I mean,

1819
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 7: what do you think is going to happen? Any small

1820
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 7: river or creek's going to just burst its banks and

1821
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 7: washed cars and caravan I mean, the miracles. There's been

1822
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,560
Speaker 7: a miracle this summer. We had massive bushfires in Victoria.

1823
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 7: Last time we had fires that bad, seventy three people

1824
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 7: were killed. We had the same strength of wind and

1825
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 7: fire this time. Sadly one person died. Only and when

1826
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 7: you talk about those pictures of those caravan parks, now

1827
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 7: no one died when that flash flood went through flimsy

1828
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 7: tents and caravans. I've got no idea, but no one

1829
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 7: was even injured.

1830
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: Good to see you, mate, Great to have you back

1831
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: for another Yearde prices back On Wednesday fourteen to.

1832
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Speaker 1: Two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1833
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: Howard By News talks a.

1834
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Speaker 2: B eleven away from nine to three point four per

1835
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: seed just before we leave Australia three point four percent

1836
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: for November. That's their latest inflation number that came out

1837
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 2: day or so. Back next meetings in February, there is

1838
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: a suggestion that a hike is coming lower than the

1839
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: three point eight in October. So they're all sort of

1840
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: trending in the right direction. And then we come to

1841
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: and I think we've got a trend here because there

1842
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: was some consternation or a moderate amount of disappointment or

1843
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: upset or whatever word you want to use here. Boxing

1844
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Day sales weren't quite what they used to be, and

1845
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: that was the expectation, is the economy turning, are we

1846
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 2: spending money? Blah blah blah. But what most people seem

1847
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 2: to have missed, and I noted this is the same

1848
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: in Britain, and it's the same in Australia. Headline I

1849
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 2: read was I thought it would be Mayhem, but Black

1850
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: Friday now reigned supreme. So what's happened is that I

1851
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: don't think we need to place the emphasis that we

1852
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,799
Speaker 2: used to on Boxing Day as being the day for sales,

1853
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 2: and it wasn't here, it wasn't in Australia, and it

1854
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: wasn't in Britain. I mean, plenty of people still out

1855
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: buying stuff, but Black Friday's materially changed the way we

1856
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: do business. In other words, the endings up front, we

1857
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: found another excuse to spend money earlier. So we have

1858
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: so black Fridays where it's at in places like America

1859
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: as well, and therefore Boxing Day is not what it

1860
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 2: used to be. The other thing that came out there

1861
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: was a poll, and I just wonder if this is

1862
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 2: an election campaign, not that there is an election coming

1863
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: up in Australia anytime soon, but nevertheless the poll suggested

1864
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: that they need far greater at this out of Bondi

1865
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: and the Royal Commission and all that sort of thing.

1866
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean to defend Albanezi just momentarily.

1867
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what does a Royal Commission achieve? I mean,

1868
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't bring anyone back. It doesn't stop a nut

1869
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 2: at getting a gun, I mean, and you can change

1870
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: the gun laws. You don't need a Royal Commission for that.

1871
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 2: And so you can run your own hate speech lawyers.

1872
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: You don't need a Royal commission for that. What does

1873
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: a Royal Commission actually tell you? You know, does it

1874
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 2: say that if we had said this, done this on

1875
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 2: this day at that time, that wouldn't have happened. Of course,

1876
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,560
Speaker 2: it's not going to say that. So Therefore, what's the

1877
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: point anyway? Most people support a royal commission, obviously, is

1878
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 2: Steve mentioned, But the other point is that what they

1879
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: wanted a far greater screening at the border, and so

1880
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: anyone who delivers that's probably going to gain some votes.

1881
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: Nine Away from nine the.

1882
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: Mike Costing Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togsad B.

1883
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 2: Guess what's happening in Japan tomorrow? They're firing up for

1884
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Kashuma again. And this is my ongoing nuclear thing, not

1885
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: that we'll ever get here, but they've gone through a process.

1886
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: The authorities have approved the decision to restart it. It's

1887
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: world's biggest nuclear plant, Turkyo Electric Power Company runs and

1888
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: of course there are seven reactors. Number six is going

1889
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 2: to get fired up as of tomorrow. They think they've

1890
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: got it under control. And of course, with the world

1891
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: of data centers, there was a I can't remember what city,

1892
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: but I gave you the details broadly last year that

1893
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: there are regions in America where there are big data centers,

1894
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: AI operators and all the big tech companies are coming

1895
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: in and the price of powers trebled in some places

1896
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: because they use so much power. They suck the grid

1897
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 2: dry basically, and so Microsoft have come out and said,

1898
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: we'll have to subsidize you. So I think that's the

1899
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: way forward. But obviously the more power, the better bit

1900
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 2: nuclear helps that particular equation. I think the Japanese might

1901
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,959
Speaker 2: have worked that out five minutes away from nine.

1902
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's great savings every day.

1903
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Now, this guy, I'm assuming it's Daoople, Tony Dacoople. He's

1904
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: the CBS evening news anchor. He's new, he's only been

1905
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: there for a very short period of time. Anyway, last

1906
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: week he ended his broadcast like this.

1907
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 15: It is a sign of how Florida, once an American punchline,

1908
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 15: has become.

1909
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 3: A leader on the world stage. Marco Rubio, we salute you.

1910
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 7: Now.

1911
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 2: CBS has found itself also in the headlines because he

1912
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: did an interview with Trump and it was thirteen minutes long,

1913
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: and they then rang him and said you better run

1914
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 2: the whole thirteen minutes, to which he acquiesced where he

1915
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: said yes or CBS said yes, And that appeared to

1916
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 2: be that because what's the name? Levitt said, if you don't,

1917
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 2: will quote unquote sue your ass off. And so they've

1918
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,839
Speaker 2: already had their eyes sued off. I think at CBS

1919
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: and have written appropriate chicks. Anyway, that's all too much

1920
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 2: for Jim Acosta. Remember Jim Acosta, he worked at CNN,

1921
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 2: He's been on the I've Had It podcast.

1922
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 21: The anchor of the CBS Evening News ended his newscast

1923
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 21: by saying, we salute you, Marco Rubio. I mean, not

1924
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 21: only was Walter Cronkite spinning in his grave, I was

1925
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 21: hoping he would come back from the Great Beyond to

1926
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Speaker 21: choke the living.

1927
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Speaker 2: And say, what the are you doing? Put out a

1928
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 2: statement and it was like, we love America and we

1929
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Speaker 2: won't apologize for it.

1930
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's not your job. Your job isn't

1931
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Speaker 3: to feel emotion towards America. Your job is a slitless

1932
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Speaker 3: pursuit of the truth. Also, get the out of here.

1933
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Speaker 2: We all love America, That's why we're doing this. A Costa,

1934
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Speaker 2: of course, was booted from CNN because they threatened to

1935
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Speaker 2: move into the graveyard shift and the cost used to

1936
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 2: have regular run ins with Trump. One point the guy

1937
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Speaker 2: I mean she at Dakoupal, who's only been there for

1938
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 2: a very short period of time. It is increasingly suggested

1939
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Speaker 2: he's not going to last because he's been a disaster

1940
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Speaker 2: and ever since he turned up the ratings and started

1941
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Speaker 2: going backwards. Mike, before you sign off today, how about

1942
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Speaker 2: a nod to the Seahawks fantastic win against the forty

1943
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Speaker 2: nine ers yesterday. Yes, it was. It was very very

1944
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Speaker 2: good game. I play like that they'll probably win the

1945
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl back tomorrow, Happy Days.

1946
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