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Speaker 1: For politics Wednesday, We've got Mark Mitchell and Jinny Anderson.

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Speaker 1: Hello you too. We're going to be poor for ages,

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Speaker 1: aren't we, Mitch.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, when when you have a government,

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Speaker 2: a laboring queen's government that we're not. We're dealing with

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Speaker 2: the hangover and the countries the hangover. But the good

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Speaker 2: news is we know how to deal with that, so

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure you do the amount.

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys put this situation that you guys mistake.

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Speaker 2: You guys put us in the situation if.

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Speaker 3: The shoe fits and it does, well, I think that

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Speaker 3: what what what New Zealanders are saying after this year

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Speaker 3: is that Austereity watch is cutting back, is driving us

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Speaker 3: deeper into.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about they are spending more. And don't

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Speaker 1: even start, Mitch, because I'm gonna come after you too.

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Speaker 1: But spending more than granted is what austereoy you're talking about?

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Speaker 2: You? But what is she?

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Speaker 3: But she spent it on things like text cuts? So

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Speaker 3: four landlords so that's still l.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: You see, if you look in Wellington, we've seen eleven

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Speaker 3: percent of the jobs gone in Wellington that hits our

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Speaker 3: local bars, our restaurants, our local businesses and that slows

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Speaker 3: down the economy. And when you had all of these

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Speaker 3: really big infrastructure projects that got canned, the workers took

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Speaker 3: off to Australia and it's hard to restart. So those

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Speaker 3: things have slowed the wheels of the economy down.

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Speaker 1: You honestly have a lower texture. You don't think that

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Speaker 1: Adrian or having a crack at us with the ocr

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Speaker 1: has had more of an impact.

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Speaker 3: Well, it has an impact in terms of making a

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Speaker 3: little bit less than those mortgage repayments, but there's a

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Speaker 3: whole bunch of keywis who are renting who haven't seen that,

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Speaker 3: and that means lease money is they lost.

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Speaker 1: Their jobs and stuff. J I mean, he literally said

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Speaker 1: he was going to do it to engineer a recession,

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Speaker 1: and he has three. He's been very successful at that mark.

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Speaker 1: Now why I'm coming at you is because yeah, sure

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Speaker 1: labor did this, but you guys aren't really fixing it,

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Speaker 1: are you, Because you're still spending like like drunken sailors.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're not spending like drunk and sailors, but we

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Speaker 2: didn't here an awful economy with massive bondifires that we

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Speaker 2: have to host down. Look, listen, listen to Ginny just

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Speaker 2: then we dodged a bullet with a change of government.

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Speaker 2: They would have us beakrupt, us, have us lock veness sailer.

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Speaker 2: We can't afford the theories that blew out to four

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, they're going to be five billions. We can't.

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Speaker 2: We can't afford as a country the other night, we

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Speaker 2: can't afford a country that you you increase the bureaucracy

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Speaker 2: by fourteen thousand. We cannot afford that. It was it

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Speaker 2: was insane. So we've had to make some changes. Nikola

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Speaker 2: is doing that. She is doing an outstanding job of that.

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Speaker 2: She's taking a very measure approach. We are having we

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Speaker 2: are we are, we are. We are having to write

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Speaker 2: size and make the cuts that's appropriate for us as

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Speaker 2: a country, and that is sustainable and it puts us

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Speaker 2: in a solid position to grow. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: she's doing.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't put us in a solid position to grow,

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Speaker 3: or to say, it puts us out another couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Even with the week she's cutting the books and cutting

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Speaker 3: out a different way of counting. Yeah, we're still not

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Speaker 3: going to be in the and the and the pink

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Speaker 3: until in the good space, until twenty twenty nine. It's

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Speaker 3: pushed us out a whole another year, even with their

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Speaker 3: dodgy counting see any zero growth.

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Speaker 2: You know what, we're driving towards, making sure that we're

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Speaker 2: sustained with A driving towards. Let's yeah, but you drove

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Speaker 2: us into a ditch at one hundred balls. Now we

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Speaker 2: couldn't afford it.

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Speaker 3: We got THEA and you're driving tooth.

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Speaker 1: Out of children. I'll tell you that. I'm sitting here

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Speaker 1: going I don't like either of you. Want to put

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Speaker 1: both of you in time out on this particular subject.

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Speaker 1: How's it going to the gang Tangyuly? Are they behaving themselves?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? The gang tonguees have been outstanding. I just want

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Speaker 2: to give a shout out to our police officers. They

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Speaker 2: have done an outstanding job for us this year. The

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Speaker 2: whole organization, whether you're sworn or non sworn, I want

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Speaker 2: to thank them. They have definitely, without a doubt, responded

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Speaker 2: to the new government's priorities. You've seen outstanding policing of

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Speaker 2: gang tongues. You're not seeing gangs taking over provincial towns anymore.

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Speaker 2: You're seeing police more presence on the streets. Three Assurance

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Speaker 2: the outstanding they're doing, engaging with our retail sector in

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Speaker 2: our communities. Really proud of the work they did.

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Speaker 1: They come through your electric joinny at all because I

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Speaker 1: think there was some talk they might have had.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that the tongue he was held in, and then

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Speaker 3: that the tongue he was over on the.

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Speaker 1: Other coast, and they behave themselves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had no. I've got an electric office and

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Speaker 3: and also Tony so both around that area and we've

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Speaker 3: had no reports.

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Speaker 1: Are nice, it makes welcome.

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Speaker 2: You're much. You're much safe for Jenny, which is great news,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe maybe people and just good Chris.

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Speaker 2: Bush and Chris Bishop is now providing great, great leadership

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Speaker 2: for the electrics.

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Speaker 3: Was here, the tongue was.

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Speaker 2: He's everywhere, He's visible. People see them.

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Speaker 1: Police being so weird about going on that trip to China.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure if they've been weird about it.

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Speaker 1: They come, they're being weird about it. They're like, nah,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't work, It wasn't organized through work. Now they

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Speaker 1: took it and you'll leave. They paid for it themselves now.

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Speaker 1: And Jenny organized Jessica at work organized the Projessica wasn't

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Speaker 1: doing it in work hours and then they see does

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Speaker 1: an email to tell us, yeah, that it was a

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Speaker 1: good trip. I had nothing to do with work, Come.

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Speaker 2: On, yeah, but no. But look, let is really fear

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Speaker 2: is that every single sworn or non sworn member that

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Speaker 2: went on that trip, they were on leave, and everyone

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Speaker 2: takes leave. They paid for a trip because they paid

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Speaker 2: for it themselves.

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Speaker 3: But it was for cultural competency. Is that well, there's

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Speaker 3: not a holiday that's cultural competency.

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Speaker 1: Leave match, but it's still work related.

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Speaker 2: Well, all that I wanted to be satisfied about was

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Speaker 2: that protocols were followed, and the information I had was

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Speaker 2: that protocols were followed. I'm not gonna there is no

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Speaker 2: way that you're going to catch me, especially coming to Christmas,

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Speaker 2: criticizing our police officers because they want to be more

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Speaker 2: culturally competent, they want to be more sensitive to the

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Speaker 2: here's the thing, right, but they do outstandings.

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Speaker 1: Which why didn't they just say, look, it was privately

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Speaker 1: funded in it and it was done on their own time,

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Speaker 1: but we're cool with it, We really like it. We're

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Speaker 1: like that they'd taken this initiative with their own days

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Speaker 2: I think they well, certainly I did, and I think

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Speaker 2: they did as well. Listen, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: there are whenever you've got groups of police officers traveling overseas,

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Speaker 2: whether they're on duty or off duty, or on league

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Speaker 2: or not, there's always protocols to be followed, regardless of

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Speaker 2: what country they're going to. I wanted to be satisfied

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Speaker 2: that those protocols were followed. They were. They went over there.

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Speaker 2: When you look at their itinery, they were sightseeing, they

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Speaker 2: went to Tenneman Square and everything else that other keys

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Speaker 2: when they traveled to China when they want to go

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Speaker 2: and do some sight seeing, do the same thing. But

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Speaker 2: they followed the protocols that the hard working, non swollen

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Speaker 2: sworn stuff they deserve to go away and have a

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Speaker 2: bit of a holiday and enjoy themselves.

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Speaker 1: Ginny, did you see the luxe and pignette?

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Speaker 3: No, but I was listening to you talking about it,

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Speaker 3: But I did not see.

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Speaker 1: We flip out about it. So that we just balance

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Speaker 1: the leader between flipping out about stuff to do with

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Speaker 1: justin there and stuff to do with luxem Well, if.

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Speaker 3: It's I guess if at the private party. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: could flip out about it. Who's taking photos of it

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Speaker 3: and putting it on the internet. It probably wasn't a

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Speaker 3: great idea.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not saying it's okay to have his head

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't really be you shouldn't be doing that to anyone.

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Speaker 3: I mean we had instances where MP's faces were put

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Speaker 3: on toilet seats and then urinated on. So anything where

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Speaker 3: you're doing something and you know, hurting a person in

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Speaker 3: terms of the way a big scandal.

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Speaker 1: I remember that being it wasn't that a big scandal,

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Speaker 1: Mitch when people were wearing on the toilet seats?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be honest with you, I haven't heard about

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Speaker 2: the mignata or the ween on the toilet seats. I've

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Speaker 2: got no idea.

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Speaker 1: Seeing as we're discussing weird scandals today, have you caught

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Speaker 1: up yet on the judge and her doctor boyfriend gate

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Speaker 1: crashing the New Zealand First Party?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I I think that. I think the Attorney General,

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Speaker 2: Judith Collins has come out very clearly and condemned that,

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Speaker 2: and it's some very clear expectations around her response.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this turns out this guy's are made of the

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Speaker 1: Labor Party, Jinny, I think you need to cut. You

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Speaker 1: need to cut.

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Speaker 3: What do they they do at the party? What was

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Speaker 3: They just crash it?

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Speaker 1: Obviously drank par too much red wine, but it'll be

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Speaker 1: good bottles. That would be good bottles of red wine.

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Speaker 1: But it does the same thing to you. You still

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Speaker 1: end up like like a Oligan, don't you. And then

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Speaker 1: they crashed the New Zealand First Party and they yelled

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Speaker 1: at Winnipe allegedly in casey is stellar and so on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's not that's not nice. It's not ideal at all.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't recommend doing that.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe maybe allegedly also made racist comments which

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Speaker 1: which they deny hashtag behind. I totally agree with you

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Speaker 1: on that, Jinny. Listen, how about the councils. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: mates with any of these councils who are unhappy at

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Speaker 1: the government, and if so, why are they unhappy?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: The hat set of Hood Campbell Berry on the radio yesterday,

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Speaker 3: so well, the problem with canceling the whole three Waters

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Speaker 3: is that it's left them with about eighty to ninety

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Speaker 3: percent of their budgets go on all their order infrastructure,

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Speaker 3: so there's not money left to do other stuff. But

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Speaker 3: you know, the funny thing is right we've had sam

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Speaker 3: and come out saying, you know, can't have flesh stuff.

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Speaker 3: All these councils got to get back to basics.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: We opened a beautiful pool in the Hot Valley last

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Speaker 3: week nine to nine new poll.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop was the pretty flash gym and the pool

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Speaker 3: doing a bomb, saying this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: I love it. It's going to be everywhere. He loves it.

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Speaker 3: But you know, but then you're saying, like, none of

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Speaker 3: the stuff this is going to be ken. You're always

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Speaker 3: just going to have roads and binds and that's it.

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Speaker 3: No libraries, no pools, nothing.

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Speaker 1: I reckon a pool, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope the bush did a good bomb, but

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Speaker 2: the reality of siblings absolutely right. In most Keys agrees

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Speaker 2: we want councilors focused on the core role in delivering

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Speaker 2: on you know, to rate pass what they expect. I

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Speaker 2: just want to say in terms of councils, I've had

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Speaker 1: Of you are always nice people, You're kind of anybody

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Speaker 3: I'd love to do account for the year on the

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Speaker 3: use of the word outstanding. I think Mark is really

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Speaker 2: been outstanding this year. Merry Christmas to you. To bears

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Speaker 1: Do you know Mark actually gave when when my son

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Speaker 1: was probably about a year old, Mark gave him a surfboard.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's exciting, very good, that's proper Safard's.

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Speaker 1: I reckon it must be like an eight footer.

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Speaker 2: No, look, it's a long board for him, without a doubt,

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Speaker 2: but it's nice and stayed. Will be a really good

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Speaker 2: bought to learn on Ginny. I want to say Merry

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Speaker 2: Christmas to you. Thank you, Mark got I got your book.

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Speaker 2: It's a self help book called Not All My Thoughts

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Speaker 2: Are Correct. You can read it over the summer. And

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Speaker 2: I want to say I want to say Mary Christmas

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Speaker 2: to everyone that joins us on a Wednesday morning. That

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Speaker 2: has been a tough year for most of us. But

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Speaker 2: regardless of when you arrived in New Zealand or where

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Speaker 3: Oh that's lovely, Mark, And I've got you a gift

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Speaker 3: to I've got you a year's membership for hot yogat

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Speaker 2: That'll be all I think.

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Speaker 1: We would pay for those Poto guys. Merry Christmas to

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Speaker 1: the pair of you. Have a lovely time, Andy both

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Speaker 1: to serve a lovely break That's politics Wednesday, Make mature

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