1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: So teachers resistance to the new school curriculum is in 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: full swing. The content for years zero to ten was 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: released overnight. One of the subjects that had quite a 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: few changes as History. Here's the Education Minister, Erica Stanford, 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: on that you're now going to learn about the Stone 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Age and the Romans and the Greeks and the Egyptians, 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: and kings and queens and revolutions. It's really exciting. Craig 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Thornhill is the chair of the History Teachers Association. High 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Craig got to Heather, are you as excited as Erica? 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's certainly been an exciting day getting to see 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: this new curriculum. Concerned is probably a better word. 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: What are you concerned about? 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's all very well to say there's all this 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: new material there, but the key concerns that we have, well, 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: there's a few. So for starters, there's no conceptual framework 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: for this curriculum. There's lots of interesting topics and the 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Minister has mentioned some of those, but they all seem 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: to be quite sort of freestanding, and there's no kind 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: of way for students to join the dots between those topics. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: The other key concern is the sheer amount of content. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: And for example, students in years zero to eight are 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: only going to have three hours a week to learn 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: this stuff, so I think that comes through about eighty 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: hours to cover everything that's in those curriculum year by year. 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: That's a lot. 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: How many hours do they have at the moment, I'm. 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: Not sure about at the moment, but the new curriculum 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: does state that six hours per week will be shared 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: between social sciences and science, so really, if you divet up, 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: it could be three hours a week for a social 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: studies teacher or a teacher to teach year seven and 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: eight social sciences. And if you've looked at the curriculum, 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: you'll see there's quite a lot there. 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Is it the case that because it has suggested that 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: some local history has been brought out of the curriculum 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: in order for some international history to be popped in? 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Is that right? 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Well, and I've really only had a few hours to 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: look at this today, that does seem to be the case. 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: Are you okay with that? 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: Local history really gives a good framework for students to 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: understand history so they can place it in their local context, 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: which they can really, you know, easily get to grips with. 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: So that is a concern that local history has been removed. 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: Is the problem here, I mean, is the problem here 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: the actual content or is it the time frame within 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: which you guys are having to do it? 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: Oh, the timeframe is definitely a concern either your nine 49 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: and ten teachers who might be history teachers and jerocoby teachers. Yeah, 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: you know, they might have a good understanding of some 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: of this material. Primary school teachers who have done really 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: well to get up to speed with the artuto in 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: New Zealand history as curriculum in the last few years. 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: Now they're going to have to learn all of this 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: global history and the different geography stuff that hasn't been 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: included in the past. We are concerned that where's the 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: resourcing for this going to come. This is the draft 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: curriculum and it'll be finalized at some point next year. 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: How long does that give the ministry to produce these resources. 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: It's a real concern that teachers are going to be 61 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: left hanging expected to teach this with no resourcing. 62 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Craig, thanks very much, appreciate it. Craig Thornhill History Teachers 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Association Chair for more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 65 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio