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Speaker 2: This week on The Big League Podcast, Roger Tuivasaschek returns

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Speaker 2: to unravel a horrendous loss to the Titans at Mount Smart,

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Speaker 2: his individual performances and how he switches out of disappointment.

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Speaker 2: Michael Burgess and I will rip into the Warrior's clear

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Speaker 2: and obvious right edge issues what needs to change before

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Speaker 2: they host the Dolphins on Friday. My name is Nathan Limb.

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Speaker 2: Let's go good, b LB. Are you taking the piss?

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Speaker 2: The Titans were bottom of the ladder. A win would

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Speaker 2: have put them five points clear of the fifth placed

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Speaker 2: Panthers up by ten dominating the Warriors can seed four

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Speaker 2: straight tries and blow it. The right edge had another shocker. Now,

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Speaker 2: in fairness, I understand what Andrew Webster was saying during

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Speaker 2: the week about the middle being too tight and leaving

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Speaker 2: too much space for the right edge to cover. Even

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Speaker 2: if Kurt Capewell didn't rush wildly out of the line

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Speaker 2: and leave dalan Wa Tennis Alesniak covering a three on one,

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Speaker 2: even if he didn't stay in and cover a short ball.

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Speaker 2: Dallan was still faced with an overlap, like what was

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Speaker 2: he supposed to do? It looked like they were playing

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Speaker 2: with twelve men. Even so, they both had poor performances.

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Speaker 2: Cape Well with a needless play the ball penalty in

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Speaker 2: the Warriors twenty and then next set whatenis Alesniak clob

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Speaker 2: is a player high without the ball and gets himself sindoned.

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Speaker 2: I say, bring Taine to Opekey onto the wing. He

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Speaker 2: deserves a shot. Give wa Tennis Alesniak a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks in reserve grade, just until he gets his confidence back.

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Speaker 3: He will come back.

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Speaker 2: Ali Leatawa's injured his calf in New South Wales Cup.

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Speaker 2: So there is no replacement for cape Well. Michael Burgess Senior.

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Speaker 2: He's on Herald writer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, indeed, yeah, we we needed to and the

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Speaker 4: words one of my favorite movies, Remember the Titans, and

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Speaker 4: we didn't because what is it?

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Speaker 3: Now? Six out of seven?

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Speaker 4: I feel like every time we underestimate them, and now

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Speaker 4: they've ambushed the Warriors again. But there is a reason,

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Speaker 4: because they weren't the Titans on Saturday night. There was

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Speaker 4: some other team like they have risen to the occasion

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Speaker 4: so many times against the Warriors. Now it just brings

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Speaker 4: out the best in them. It's become this weird rivalry

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Speaker 4: because they've played so well. We can't forget that, like

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Speaker 4: the Gold Coaster, a really good way better than what

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Speaker 4: they've been some other matches, and it makes you wonder,

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Speaker 4: you know, where's this team? Been a lot of issues

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Speaker 4: to get through from this game, but your summary is

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Speaker 4: spot on as an offerers, like, it's a really damaging defeat,

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Speaker 4: really hurts in so many ways. Had a chance to

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Speaker 4: get a gap on the top four, had a chance

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Speaker 4: to get revenge up Tenneril, all those things. We'll get

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Speaker 4: into it in more detail. The right edge is as

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Speaker 4: a factor, and I've got a really actually, I've got

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Speaker 4: a new core option for you for the right edge.

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Speaker 4: I've got an option you no one would have thought

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Speaker 4: of what they could do. But let's see. Really yeah,

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Speaker 4: but we'll talk about that later in the show.

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Speaker 3: I reckon, But we can't also forget this game Waite Egan.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm pretty certain if Wade Egan doesn't get injured

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Speaker 4: in the what was it eleventh or twelfth minute and

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Speaker 4: like he is that important TOMARTI still played well and

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Speaker 4: Roger said try, but Egan is so crucial to that team.

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Speaker 4: He goes off, they can see to try as in

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Speaker 4: But the pattern is a bit disturbing, Naith. They haven't

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Speaker 3: You know, there's been the.

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Speaker 4: Panthers, the Broncos, the Tigers weren't bad, but it wasn't

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Speaker 4: a bad performance, but not amazing the night it's with

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Speaker 4: So that's the concern. Is this pattern at this time

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Speaker 4: this right now, this right edge issue. Because Kurt Capewell,

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Speaker 5: I'm not usually out under Center's next Todel, but credit

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Speaker 5: to him, he's adjusted really well. I thought we made

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Speaker 2: Andrew Webster is applauding Cape wells if it's saying his

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Speaker 6: Kurt can play and he's got a lot of experience

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Speaker 6: at playing different positions in his crew. But we're dying

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Speaker 6: So that's what we're being given right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, am I just like way off the mark here?

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Speaker 2: What game was I watching?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you're a bit harsh on what

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Speaker 4: had a good game. He was trying his guts out.

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Speaker 4: He was completely busted. He's got bandages down the left leg,

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Speaker 4: the press, well, he had bandages on his head. He

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Speaker 4: just banged up in a big way. He probably shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be playing I've got a feeling he's playing carrying injuries

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Speaker 2: Ribster said to us during the week. I straight up

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Speaker 2: asked him, I said, is Cape Well injured?

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Speaker 4: And he said, no, no, but what I don't mean injured,

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Speaker 4: but I mean he's got niggles that you and I.

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Speaker 4: You and I had those niggles, we wouldn't becoming a

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Speaker 4: work you know, you'd be at home watching your lady

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Speaker 4: streaming series or whatever you millennials do.

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Speaker 3: But love.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I'll be watching some DVD from the nineties.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, he's carrying something in terms of he's not

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Speaker 4: quite his best, but he guts his way through that match,

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Speaker 4: probably in a lot of pain. He did pretty well

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Speaker 4: because the left edge also had issues. The Titans scored

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Speaker 4: it's not just the right edge but the right edge.

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Speaker 4: We asked Karen foran about it, and he didn't want

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Speaker 4: So the right edge is going to become a constant target.

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Speaker 4: Kate Well has done really well, but yeah, He's not

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Speaker 4: you said the right edge. It's a pattern and Karen

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Speaker 2: Said basically they knew they were going to target it,

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Speaker 2: and so does every other team in the NRL. This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 4: When I said pattern, I was more talking about the

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Speaker 2: Not there's a pattern on the road.

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Speaker 3: This is a pattern too. You know, what do you

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Speaker 4: This week they've got a training session on Wednesday, They've

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Speaker 4: is down in confidence. I actually I asked him after

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Speaker 4: I was on the Keys tour with him in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 4: but and he actually said, oh mate, thanks for asking,

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Speaker 4: but I won't you know, And he said, you know,

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Speaker 4: he is struggling a bit at the moment, and fair enough,

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Speaker 4: you know, fair enough, he is struggling down on confidence.

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Speaker 4: And if you're a winger, you're down on confidence and

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Speaker 4: you're playing in an inner match watch by hundreds of thousands,

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Speaker 4: not a nice place to be.

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Speaker 2: Now, we're going to hear from Roger to ivasishek on

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Speaker 2: this game shortly, but first here are the highlights. Titans

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Speaker 2: twenty four, Lauria's sixteen, his boy Arista Vita, he.

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Speaker 7: Taden Temple with the great points, a fantastic score by

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Speaker 3: So Joe the Feeder with a terrific four point.

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Speaker 2: Use of the utery front way that Egan is coming

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Speaker 4: Has looks saft a pass ah that was fantastic from

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Speaker 3: Still great Shampool.

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Speaker 7: Great class, good class they crop for Feta.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've got.

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Speaker 3: A download, I don't think it. You can see that

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Speaker 3: Jojo is over the goal line. When have you the season?

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Speaker 3: Put hands to match soon over turns a set times

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Speaker 7: And it's tights kind of walking and it's a.

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Speaker 8: Big League Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Michael Burgess did superbly well to get a quick chat

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Speaker 2: with Roger two vasa Chick after the match. Let's take

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Speaker 2: a listen, Roger, I mean that one I mentioned it

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Speaker 2: really hurts.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've definitely got to about the results and how

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Speaker 7: we played. We started really well, you know, started really well.

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Speaker 7: We we knew the plan was wasn't work, so yeah,

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Speaker 7: pretty disappointed. Our lift edge left him sort of back

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Speaker 3: What was your view of the of the second half

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Speaker 7: I thought we went out and we put them in

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Speaker 7: You know, let's let's carry it on and keep the

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Speaker 7: long game going. We still weren't perfect, weren't playing our best.

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Speaker 7: They've still finally tries again, you know, they they scored

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Speaker 7: in high school, you know, and I'm like, okay, here

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Speaker 7: we go. You know that that's a good feeling. Now

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Speaker 7: we're going to build something. But Thailand's just kept completing.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: The coach spoke about they were a close to one

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Speaker 7: hundred percent and yeah, that's what it's look for them

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Speaker 7: to get one over us, And yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: What is it about the Titans?

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Speaker 4: Do you think they forget this incredible record against the Warriors?

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Speaker 7: Well, they turned up and played. They played today. We

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Speaker 4: What was your view of your tries? You say, a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. I'm definitely happy that we got the

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Speaker 3: Get that kick, get that try, and yeah.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie. I was pretty confident after that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, especially after the I guess the high of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we I thought we handled the week really well.

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Speaker 7: After that that try, I thought he still had a

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Speaker 4: Somehow it looked like tonight they were they were winning

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Speaker 3: Them into themselves. Is that is that how it failed

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It did?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 7: Our back three, we we thought we started well the

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Speaker 7: then as again went on, as they kept completing, we're

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Speaker 3: That's how we let in a few tries.

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Speaker 4: How are you feeling about your about your game? They're right,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, funny enough, I'm talking to the team. I feel good,

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Speaker 3: And how does the team reset.

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Speaker 4: You've got a relatively short turn around, and you've got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 7: We just we just got to get together, sit back

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Speaker 4: And there's just one moment in the first half, kicked

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Speaker 3: You came over to take it.

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Speaker 4: I think you kind of half slipped, still took it

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Speaker 7: Definitely, sometimes, you know, I definitely Just you're just in

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Speaker 3: You need to go after it.

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Speaker 4: And as you say you gut it, I can see

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Speaker 4: Is it hard to sort of not feel grumpy and

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Speaker 7: Well, definitely guts it, but pretty special tomorrow the metrics

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Speaker 3: Sounds like the perfect distruction.

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Speaker 4: There'll be so many, so many kids there, so you

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your time, Roj. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: This is going yeah, the Big League Podcast on the

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Speaker 8: Warriors Bad Wagons. It's day one. This is the Big

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Speaker 8: League Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's go through this game in a little bit

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Speaker 2: more detail. First of all, Andrew Webster's overall reflection on

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Speaker 2: the contest.

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Speaker 3: We just weren't good enough.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what it's most We weren't the way we

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Speaker 3: That's always frustrating.

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Speaker 6: But I still think there's lots of effort, but just

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Speaker 6: we didn't execute the rock control well at all. We

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Speaker 6: Way got a concussion on the ground. Our third Menimi

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Speaker 2: But what happened because they started superbly. They were dominating

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Speaker 4: It was a real shame because they started like a

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Speaker 4: first nine sets completely dominant. Down the Titans end scored

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Speaker 4: the Warriors were a bit surprise too. That turnaround was

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Speaker 2: Even the Titans were superb. They played really well, They

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 2: In terms of the Warriors performers, Roger toy Vasishek and

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Speaker 2: standout players from a Warrior's perspective. Roger with a try

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Speaker 2: in two hundred and seventy six run meters and Chance

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Speaker 2: was a workhorse as per usual. It was the same

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Speaker 4: Some of the forwards did well, but the key was

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Speaker 4: and they were just there to play mistake free football,

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Speaker 4: just not make so they were quite conservative if you

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Speaker 4: watch what they were doing, conservatives through the set of six.

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Speaker 4: And then Campbell was kicking so well, we have to

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Speaker 4: was a contest almost every time. A lot of pressure

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Speaker 4: we're losing the ruck. But also I thought the work

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Speaker 4: You know, Tanner Boyd his kicks if you look at

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Speaker 4: Felt like on Saturday, a lot of it was behind

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Speaker 4: don't know why Tanner's changed his game. I didn't see

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, as a defender, because when a half runs straight,

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Speaker 3: You have to hold your ground in way square up.

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Speaker 2: Whereas if you know that they're going to pass before

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Speaker 2: So that's the thing about taking it to the line.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Wade Egan obviously at the start, and how

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Speaker 4: If you look at Saya Cameron Munster and how much

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Speaker 4: So Tomarty sort of went into a five eight center

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Speaker 4: but Egan is so vital I think with a new

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Speaker 4: And that's why it was so Without making excuses because

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Speaker 3: It was so damaging. And then they didn't have a specialist,

436
00:20:11,133 --> 00:20:12,973
Speaker 3: like if they had Healy on the bench. Maybe.

437
00:20:12,973 --> 00:20:16,173
Speaker 2: But I did feel for delln when he went off

438
00:20:16,253 --> 00:20:19,013
Speaker 2: because it looked to me like that tackle he made

439
00:20:19,213 --> 00:20:21,693
Speaker 2: that was high and play didn't have the ball, it

440
00:20:21,733 --> 00:20:23,933
Speaker 2: was out of desperation from what I saw, it was

441
00:20:23,973 --> 00:20:27,933
Speaker 2: so determined not to let another try in that side

442
00:20:28,333 --> 00:20:31,413
Speaker 2: that he just he flew out and just clob at

443
00:20:31,453 --> 00:20:33,573
Speaker 2: a guy who didn't have the ball and then got

444
00:20:33,653 --> 00:20:36,573
Speaker 2: himself sin bin. So it was sort of like pressure

445
00:20:37,013 --> 00:20:39,813
Speaker 2: building on top of each other forced him into a

446
00:20:39,853 --> 00:20:42,613
Speaker 2: mistake and it ends up even worse than if he

447
00:20:42,693 --> 00:20:43,693
Speaker 2: had just held back.

448
00:20:43,973 --> 00:20:48,533
Speaker 4: And that's the confidence thing. Confidence thing, And split second two,

449
00:20:48,613 --> 00:20:51,133
Speaker 4: wasn't it? You know, one more second then it's a tackle.

450
00:20:51,413 --> 00:20:52,813
Speaker 4: They let a few of those go, but that was

451
00:20:52,813 --> 00:20:56,413
Speaker 4: fair enough, and it's hard when you're down at it was.

452
00:20:56,413 --> 00:20:58,573
Speaker 4: He played two hundred and twenty odd games, but when

453
00:20:58,613 --> 00:21:01,093
Speaker 4: you lost your mojo and you're a winger. You gotta

454
00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:03,413
Speaker 4: wait for the player to come to you, different if

455
00:21:03,453 --> 00:21:07,693
Speaker 4: you're a forward or something. Yeah, it's well, we can't forget.

456
00:21:07,733 --> 00:21:09,733
Speaker 4: People are sure memories what he has done for this

457
00:21:09,773 --> 00:21:12,533
Speaker 4: club and other clubs. So you hope he turns it around,

458
00:21:12,573 --> 00:21:13,013
Speaker 4: of course.

459
00:21:13,053 --> 00:21:15,293
Speaker 2: And I want to take your attention to a moment

460
00:21:15,373 --> 00:21:17,613
Speaker 2: very late in the game when the Warriors were threatening

461
00:21:17,653 --> 00:21:21,493
Speaker 2: a comeback Chanelle. Harris Devida in front of the goalpost

462
00:21:21,533 --> 00:21:24,773
Speaker 2: in the Titans twenty goes to play the ball, places

463
00:21:24,813 --> 00:21:26,373
Speaker 2: the ball on the ground. He's still got one knee

464
00:21:26,413 --> 00:21:27,573
Speaker 2: on the ground. He goes to play the ball and

465
00:21:27,573 --> 00:21:30,053
Speaker 2: the Titans player just shoves him and he loses the

466
00:21:30,093 --> 00:21:33,613
Speaker 2: ball and it's a penalty against the Warriors. Now the

467
00:21:33,773 --> 00:21:39,013
Speaker 2: rule is apparently referee Jered Sutton ruled that because Harris

468
00:21:39,053 --> 00:21:41,493
Speaker 2: Devita planted the ball on the ground before getting to

469
00:21:41,493 --> 00:21:46,373
Speaker 2: his feet, it nullified any rock interference by the Titans. Birch,

470
00:21:46,533 --> 00:21:49,253
Speaker 2: this is the dumbest rule I've ever heard in my life.

471
00:21:49,733 --> 00:21:51,853
Speaker 2: What do you mean if he plants the ball, you

472
00:21:51,893 --> 00:21:54,333
Speaker 2: can just shove him again, Well, you can tackle twice.

473
00:21:54,373 --> 00:21:54,613
Speaker 3: Now.

474
00:21:55,773 --> 00:21:58,013
Speaker 4: They brought it in because what they wanted to stop

475
00:21:58,093 --> 00:22:01,893
Speaker 4: stupid What they wanted to stop was players who were

476
00:22:01,933 --> 00:22:03,493
Speaker 4: sort of you know, still on the ground in such

477
00:22:03,533 --> 00:22:07,213
Speaker 4: a hurry and they'd kind of plant the ball. Defenders

478
00:22:07,213 --> 00:22:09,733
Speaker 4: are still there, and it's a way of getting a penalty, okay,

479
00:22:10,253 --> 00:22:12,933
Speaker 4: But this one was so obviously the other way in

480
00:22:13,013 --> 00:22:15,933
Speaker 4: terms of the defender was still all over him. Nine

481
00:22:15,933 --> 00:22:18,533
Speaker 4: times out of ten, that's a penalty get penalized so much.

482
00:22:19,293 --> 00:22:21,853
Speaker 4: What made it really hurt was it was five six

483
00:22:21,893 --> 00:22:24,253
Speaker 4: minutes to go, the Warriors eight points down, but they

484
00:22:24,293 --> 00:22:26,093
Speaker 4: had a lot of momentum under the posts.

485
00:22:26,493 --> 00:22:29,293
Speaker 3: A six again or whatever a penalty. There's some rules

486
00:22:29,293 --> 00:22:30,253
Speaker 3: in the league that just.

487
00:22:30,493 --> 00:22:33,333
Speaker 4: It reminded me a bit of two weeks ago, Egan

488
00:22:34,013 --> 00:22:36,453
Speaker 4: made a break against the Broncos, made a big break

489
00:22:36,493 --> 00:22:40,413
Speaker 4: fifty meters downfield. Walsh is all over him, hanging on

490
00:22:41,493 --> 00:22:44,173
Speaker 4: and then Egan gets penalized for what did he get

491
00:22:44,213 --> 00:22:47,853
Speaker 4: penalis for? He get penlows again for I don't know,

492
00:22:47,893 --> 00:22:50,973
Speaker 4: getting up too quickly or something, and he's got a guy.

493
00:22:50,773 --> 00:22:51,293
Speaker 3: With the ball.

494
00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:53,613
Speaker 4: So there's just some rules you just like it might

495
00:22:53,653 --> 00:22:56,413
Speaker 4: be written down that way, and something's a great referee,

496
00:22:56,453 --> 00:22:58,533
Speaker 4: so I was surprised it might be written down that way.

497
00:22:58,573 --> 00:23:00,293
Speaker 4: But I think something was trying to be too clever,

498
00:23:00,613 --> 00:23:02,413
Speaker 4: you know, like far out the guy. I think it

499
00:23:02,493 --> 00:23:05,773
Speaker 4: was Reagan Campbell Gillard. He's all over him. He smashed

500
00:23:05,813 --> 00:23:08,333
Speaker 4: him backwards. How the hell has that had a penalty?

501
00:23:08,373 --> 00:23:13,613
Speaker 4: Although Webster, to his credit, didn't didn't make the big

502
00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:16,053
Speaker 4: thing about it that he answered my question about it,

503
00:23:16,053 --> 00:23:17,693
Speaker 4: but he said in the same sentence.

504
00:23:17,693 --> 00:23:20,013
Speaker 3: That, mate, the Titans were too good. So and that's

505
00:23:20,053 --> 00:23:21,133
Speaker 3: how I felt about it as well.

506
00:23:21,173 --> 00:23:24,053
Speaker 2: That's why I've left it till now for the podcast,

507
00:23:24,093 --> 00:23:27,053
Speaker 2: because it was not a major issue of the game.

508
00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:27,653
Speaker 3: Now.

509
00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:30,413
Speaker 2: There were two key injury concerns. One of them we've

510
00:23:30,453 --> 00:23:33,813
Speaker 2: mentioned obviously. He was weighed Egan with concussion. He needs

511
00:23:33,813 --> 00:23:35,893
Speaker 2: to be careful, man. I don't know how many concussions

512
00:23:35,893 --> 00:23:39,533
Speaker 2: he gets a year. But what would a doctor tell him.

513
00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:42,373
Speaker 2: A doctor would tell him quit the sport.

514
00:23:43,453 --> 00:23:45,773
Speaker 4: He hasn't had one for a while, which is good,

515
00:23:45,853 --> 00:23:48,493
Speaker 4: oh great, But he's had quite a few over his career.

516
00:23:49,653 --> 00:23:54,053
Speaker 4: And it happens because well, you got to hit in

517
00:23:54,053 --> 00:23:55,613
Speaker 4: the wrong place. But I think it happens because he

518
00:23:55,653 --> 00:23:58,013
Speaker 4: works so damn hard. He's making forty to fifty tackles

519
00:23:58,013 --> 00:24:02,133
Speaker 4: a game, working so hard. It's kind of the argument

520
00:24:02,213 --> 00:24:03,933
Speaker 4: is to I don't know if he needs to pay

521
00:24:03,973 --> 00:24:05,813
Speaker 4: eighty minutes all the time, because he does, it can

522
00:24:05,853 --> 00:24:06,813
Speaker 4: have him with tightness.

523
00:24:07,133 --> 00:24:09,093
Speaker 3: It's an issue I personally hope he gets.

524
00:24:09,413 --> 00:24:11,893
Speaker 4: I'd like to see Egan get two weeks off, take

525
00:24:11,973 --> 00:24:14,573
Speaker 4: no chance with this, give him a decent streetch So

526
00:24:14,733 --> 00:24:17,733
Speaker 4: he did play the bulldoze game as well, because.

527
00:24:17,773 --> 00:24:20,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just cannot muck around with that at all.

528
00:24:21,173 --> 00:24:23,693
Speaker 2: Coach Andrew Riofster says Egan is doing well.

529
00:24:23,813 --> 00:24:25,093
Speaker 3: He's in really good spirits.

530
00:24:25,093 --> 00:24:28,133
Speaker 6: But as you know, it's it's a week, so yeah,

531
00:24:28,173 --> 00:24:29,693
Speaker 6: but he's he's in good spirits.

532
00:24:29,693 --> 00:24:34,013
Speaker 2: Considering Dimitric Viie Maln that had a knee injury, he

533
00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:35,493
Speaker 2: sort of looked like he limped off.

534
00:24:35,533 --> 00:24:36,653
Speaker 3: Is he okay? Not sure?

535
00:24:36,733 --> 00:24:38,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't get to ask about that, and I

536
00:24:38,973 --> 00:24:43,213
Speaker 4: don't think it was too serious. I saw him walking

537
00:24:43,293 --> 00:24:46,373
Speaker 4: through the through the gym outside of the sheds afterwards,

538
00:24:46,693 --> 00:24:49,253
Speaker 4: didn't seem to be noticing limping. And of course, as

539
00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:52,093
Speaker 4: Roger mentioned, he had his son's first birthday on the

540
00:24:52,813 --> 00:24:54,573
Speaker 4: on the Sunday, which I think the players were going

541
00:24:54,613 --> 00:24:57,533
Speaker 4: to so it would have been a lot of jumping

542
00:24:57,533 --> 00:24:59,373
Speaker 4: around on that. But hopefully he's okay, because he was

543
00:24:59,413 --> 00:25:00,053
Speaker 4: he was good again.

544
00:25:01,973 --> 00:25:05,413
Speaker 2: Now. The Warriors host the Dolphins at Mount Smart on Friday.

545
00:25:05,453 --> 00:25:08,773
Speaker 2: The Dolphins, it might surprise you, their eighth on the

546
00:25:08,853 --> 00:25:12,053
Speaker 2: NRL Ladder with nine wins and nine losses. They just

547
00:25:12,133 --> 00:25:14,973
Speaker 2: kind of snuck up there. They're coming off the buye

548
00:25:14,973 --> 00:25:19,213
Speaker 2: but before that put forty three points on the Cowboys.

549
00:25:19,253 --> 00:25:22,173
Speaker 2: This is a team Birge that scores a lot of points,

550
00:25:22,453 --> 00:25:24,133
Speaker 2: but they also concede a lot of points.

551
00:25:24,453 --> 00:25:27,453
Speaker 3: Do you want to know something scary? Go on, hit

552
00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:27,893
Speaker 3: me with it.

553
00:25:28,333 --> 00:25:31,853
Speaker 4: Well, they are the They are the Titans, but better right,

554
00:25:31,893 --> 00:25:35,133
Speaker 4: So they're just they're just like the Titans. They've got

555
00:25:35,973 --> 00:25:38,453
Speaker 4: pace invention, They've got a lot of pace out wide.

556
00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:40,733
Speaker 4: They like to like to throw it around, try things,

557
00:25:41,133 --> 00:25:42,693
Speaker 4: but they're a better around team.

558
00:25:42,813 --> 00:25:43,253
Speaker 3: There you go.

559
00:25:44,013 --> 00:25:46,853
Speaker 2: They've got threats everywhere and me so tab youu I

560
00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:50,213
Speaker 2: for Doe at fullback? Who the The Aussie commentators have

561
00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:52,773
Speaker 2: cleverly nicknamed the Hammer so that they don't have.

562
00:25:52,733 --> 00:25:53,613
Speaker 3: To pronounce it his name.

563
00:25:54,173 --> 00:25:59,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's incredibly difficult. It's like Marky Mark for

564
00:25:59,533 --> 00:26:02,813
Speaker 2: Mark na Wangan. That's the most blatant one that there

565
00:26:03,093 --> 00:26:03,693
Speaker 2: is pretty hard.

566
00:26:03,693 --> 00:26:05,653
Speaker 4: The way that rolls off your tongue is pretty good.

567
00:26:05,813 --> 00:26:08,253
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that's pretty Markie Mark.

568
00:26:09,013 --> 00:26:10,853
Speaker 2: But if it's your job, well I know that name

569
00:26:10,893 --> 00:26:12,293
Speaker 2: because he played for the Warritars and I was a

570
00:26:12,293 --> 00:26:14,453
Speaker 2: super rugby commentator and I learned how to say the

571
00:26:14,533 --> 00:26:17,893
Speaker 2: name like that. That's kind of your job. But anyway,

572
00:26:17,933 --> 00:26:21,853
Speaker 2: I digress. Jermaine I Sakle on the wing. Isaac Atoya

573
00:26:22,253 --> 00:26:25,253
Speaker 2: the skipper at halfback. He's twenty one years old. Bird

574
00:26:26,013 --> 00:26:28,133
Speaker 2: he's and he's on there. He's born in Wellington, but

575
00:26:28,133 --> 00:26:30,653
Speaker 2: he plays for Tonga, presumably because he wants to play Origin.

576
00:26:31,093 --> 00:26:35,333
Speaker 2: How impressive is this kid? He's great, Like I've been

577
00:26:35,333 --> 00:26:35,933
Speaker 2: so impressed.

578
00:26:35,973 --> 00:26:38,453
Speaker 4: But even more importantly, guys, you know way more than

579
00:26:38,453 --> 00:26:42,013
Speaker 4: me about half back play. Andrew John's Sean Johnson. I

580
00:26:42,053 --> 00:26:44,253
Speaker 4: heard Sean Johnson and his new show on Sky the

581
00:26:44,293 --> 00:26:49,053
Speaker 4: League Lounge raving about him. Andrew John's the same. So

582
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:53,373
Speaker 4: he seems to be really going places. So it's another

583
00:26:53,413 --> 00:26:56,733
Speaker 4: big it's another big challenge. The Dolphins, as you said,

584
00:26:57,253 --> 00:26:58,933
Speaker 4: they put on a lot of points. They can score

585
00:26:58,973 --> 00:27:01,013
Speaker 4: a lot of points. The Warriors aren't really that kind

586
00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:04,813
Speaker 4: of team. Warriors have to have to get ahead and

587
00:27:04,813 --> 00:27:06,413
Speaker 4: stay ahead. It's not the kind of game where they're

588
00:27:06,453 --> 00:27:08,333
Speaker 4: going to be, you know, be able to come back

589
00:27:08,373 --> 00:27:09,053
Speaker 4: from a deficit.

590
00:27:10,533 --> 00:27:13,413
Speaker 2: The Dolphins are dealing with a lot of injuries. They

591
00:27:13,413 --> 00:27:16,053
Speaker 2: have plenty of players out, including Cody Nickerma, but this

592
00:27:16,133 --> 00:27:19,373
Speaker 2: week they should get back for Lsi Kalfusi and a

593
00:27:19,453 --> 00:27:21,173
Speaker 2: Mark Nichols. Berge.

594
00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:23,533
Speaker 3: You mentioned they're the Titans, but better.

595
00:27:24,053 --> 00:27:27,333
Speaker 2: What are the Warriors have to do to shut down

596
00:27:28,133 --> 00:27:30,613
Speaker 2: the Titans, especially when they've got so much pace in

597
00:27:30,653 --> 00:27:34,253
Speaker 2: the outside backs. Before we get into what the Warriors

598
00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:35,133
Speaker 2: team should look like.

599
00:27:35,973 --> 00:27:38,173
Speaker 4: I mean, they've got to win the middle. They've got

600
00:27:38,213 --> 00:27:40,013
Speaker 4: to win the ruck, which they probably haven't done the

601
00:27:40,053 --> 00:27:42,013
Speaker 4: last two weeks. If you look at the Knights game closely,

602
00:27:42,053 --> 00:27:43,693
Speaker 4: if you look at the Titans, the Titans forwards are

603
00:27:43,693 --> 00:27:44,173
Speaker 4: really good.

604
00:27:45,173 --> 00:27:45,333
Speaker 7: Man.

605
00:27:45,373 --> 00:27:48,013
Speaker 4: They've got a good pack. They're big as well. Everyone

606
00:27:48,093 --> 00:27:51,293
Speaker 4: talks this cliche about the Warriors pack. The Warriors pack,

607
00:27:52,013 --> 00:27:55,293
Speaker 4: it's one of my most frustrating cliches out there. It's

608
00:27:55,333 --> 00:27:57,893
Speaker 4: not actually that big, especially at the moment with no Barnett.

609
00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:00,613
Speaker 4: You know, Aaron Clark is not that big. Amazing players

610
00:28:00,613 --> 00:28:03,853
Speaker 4: not that big. They've got Jackson Ford at prop Tanners.

611
00:28:03,893 --> 00:28:06,893
Speaker 4: Thew smith is not big, he's a solid unit. So

612
00:28:07,293 --> 00:28:10,333
Speaker 4: they've got to win the ruck. They've got to kick

613
00:28:10,373 --> 00:28:12,573
Speaker 4: a bit better and they've got to find a way

614
00:28:12,613 --> 00:28:15,573
Speaker 4: to stop the ball getting out wide. Stop the off loads.

615
00:28:15,613 --> 00:28:18,133
Speaker 4: The Titans are the Dolphins sorry, quite good with their

616
00:28:18,133 --> 00:28:19,213
Speaker 4: offloading game as well.

617
00:28:19,693 --> 00:28:22,773
Speaker 2: Now, in terms of how Andrew Webster should select this

618
00:28:22,893 --> 00:28:26,333
Speaker 2: Warriors side, he's loyal, which is a great quality to have,

619
00:28:26,453 --> 00:28:30,253
Speaker 2: and a coach, so ordinarily I wouldn't expect any changes

620
00:28:30,293 --> 00:28:33,133
Speaker 2: to the Warriors lineup except for Sam Healey coming in

621
00:28:33,173 --> 00:28:37,093
Speaker 2: a hooker for Wade Egan. But surely surely Tanned to

622
00:28:37,253 --> 00:28:41,293
Speaker 2: Opeaky comes in for Watten is a Lesniak on the wing.

623
00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:44,813
Speaker 2: Webster was asked after the game whether Tanned to Opeaky

624
00:28:44,813 --> 00:28:46,013
Speaker 2: could be an option moving forward.

625
00:28:46,173 --> 00:28:48,813
Speaker 6: Tain's an option every week, mate, Like he's a good player.

626
00:28:48,853 --> 00:28:51,253
Speaker 6: But I'm certainly not going to be starting pick teams

627
00:28:51,533 --> 00:28:54,493
Speaker 6: half an hour an hour after the game's finished. Like

628
00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:56,893
Speaker 6: I said, I've got complete confidence in everyone.

629
00:28:57,253 --> 00:28:57,933
Speaker 2: What should they do?

630
00:28:58,013 --> 00:28:59,773
Speaker 3: Berg, Yeah, good question.

631
00:29:00,133 --> 00:29:01,533
Speaker 4: As we said earlier, they've only got one and a

632
00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:04,453
Speaker 4: half training sessions, not much time to see things. I

633
00:29:04,453 --> 00:29:06,613
Speaker 4: think they'll look at the weather forecast first, because if

634
00:29:06,613 --> 00:29:10,173
Speaker 4: it's going to be a rainy, shitty, horrible night, the

635
00:29:10,253 --> 00:29:12,813
Speaker 4: temptation is still to have the bigger body in Dallan

636
00:29:12,933 --> 00:29:16,813
Speaker 4: because the one time when Tane can get exposed, if

637
00:29:16,853 --> 00:29:19,213
Speaker 4: it's a muddy night, you can't throw around that much,

638
00:29:19,413 --> 00:29:21,853
Speaker 4: and he is the smaller body. They kick to him,

639
00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:23,933
Speaker 4: they push him back, so they look at the weather.

640
00:29:25,093 --> 00:29:27,133
Speaker 4: But I agree with you, I think Tane's got to

641
00:29:27,173 --> 00:29:30,133
Speaker 4: be in the seventeen. He's too talented. It's not just

642
00:29:30,133 --> 00:29:32,333
Speaker 4: about what Dallan's doing, but it's about the fact that

643
00:29:32,373 --> 00:29:35,333
Speaker 4: Tane makes things happen. He's the kind of guy in

644
00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:37,493
Speaker 4: the red zone you can slip through. He can make breaks.

645
00:29:37,533 --> 00:29:39,133
Speaker 4: The Warriors lack a bit of pace at the moment.

646
00:29:39,813 --> 00:29:42,333
Speaker 4: But what about Tane at fullback? Where do you play

647
00:29:42,373 --> 00:29:46,893
Speaker 4: charts center? This is your nuclear option, okay, so go

648
00:29:46,933 --> 00:29:49,733
Speaker 4: through it, go through it. Well, actually, no, the nuclear option,

649
00:29:49,973 --> 00:29:54,653
Speaker 4: which is really blow everything up, is Tane on the wing.

650
00:29:55,293 --> 00:29:58,213
Speaker 4: Chance at center. Kate well back to second row and

651
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Speaker 4: guess he's at fullback. Roger, No, not Roger, to Mighty Dallan.

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Speaker 3: Dallan. There you go, there you go. That's the way

653
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Speaker 3: to get his comp but it's back.

654
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Speaker 4: Put him at fullback, a new position he's played a

655
00:30:12,373 --> 00:30:17,053
Speaker 4: lot there before, something different. It's crazy and he probably

656
00:30:17,053 --> 00:30:19,053
Speaker 4: doesn't have the fitness base to do it, but it's

657
00:30:19,053 --> 00:30:21,453
Speaker 4: just an idea because he has. He was a really

658
00:30:21,493 --> 00:30:23,613
Speaker 4: good fullback for the Keys. When you're at fullback, all

659
00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:26,413
Speaker 4: you got to do is run hard. Doesn't have to

660
00:30:26,453 --> 00:30:29,693
Speaker 4: make those decisions around the line. Could he be fullback,

661
00:30:30,013 --> 00:30:33,413
Speaker 4: chance center? It sorts out the right edge, I don't know,

662
00:30:33,653 --> 00:30:36,333
Speaker 4: but a more realistic one that's a bit crazy. I

663
00:30:36,373 --> 00:30:39,813
Speaker 4: know Nathan's like, look, Nathan's about this sort of my.

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Speaker 2: Hands in my head. I don't know if giving someone

665
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Speaker 2: who's down on confidence a completely new position and role

666
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Speaker 2: then he's done the whole season is a good shout.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it could be crazy. It might be crazy.

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Speaker 4: It might be the thing that you come up with

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Speaker 4: after twelve line reds or vodka cruzes, that you'd have

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Speaker 4: at your.

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Speaker 2: Flat drink vodka cruz.

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Speaker 4: But what you do when you're on a date or something,

673
00:31:03,453 --> 00:31:05,973
Speaker 4: Come on, be honest here, I don't be I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You don't what a load.

675
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Speaker 4: Of rubber you're there to impress the girl.

676
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Speaker 3: Is not going to impress a girl. I always trust

677
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Speaker 3: me on that. I always have been a glary. Yes,

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00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:22,253
Speaker 3: that'd be great. Oh G and T. Yeah, okay, stand

679
00:31:22,293 --> 00:31:26,493
Speaker 3: by that anyway. Yeah, it's just sometimes it can be

680
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Speaker 3: a spark new position, completely different.

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Speaker 4: You know, some of the prove it's not. It's not

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Speaker 4: the craziest idea of come up with, but it's close

683
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Speaker 4: to it. But the serious one, the one that might

684
00:31:38,493 --> 00:31:41,133
Speaker 4: be more realistic, which I quite like, will be taining it.

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00:31:41,213 --> 00:31:45,573
Speaker 4: Fall back Chance at right center. He's played only one

686
00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:47,293
Speaker 4: er our game there, but he has played a Service

687
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Speaker 4: Cup there and he's played six tests. So Chance at

688
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Speaker 4: right center keep Dollan. But then you get cape Well

689
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Speaker 4: back to the second row, you get Lequer back on

690
00:31:55,973 --> 00:31:58,853
Speaker 4: the bench. Or I think he's good as an impact player.

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Speaker 4: That's what I would think about doing. But Webster, as

692
00:32:03,693 --> 00:32:05,973
Speaker 4: you say, is a loyal guy. And also I think

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Speaker 4: about tom Alee. I think about tom Alee coming in.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't played all year, but I really like his size,

695
00:32:10,573 --> 00:32:13,373
Speaker 4: Tom Harley coming in for Tanner, Tanna Stowers Smith's be

696
00:32:13,373 --> 00:32:16,813
Speaker 4: another option. And then since since we're making changes, what

697
00:32:16,853 --> 00:32:18,013
Speaker 4: about Tomato at halfback?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're winding back the clock here, urge, because I

699
00:32:22,173 --> 00:32:24,933
Speaker 2: just they either pick and stick with Tanner Boyd or

700
00:32:24,973 --> 00:32:28,173
Speaker 2: they say, look they've picked him. They stick with Tannemund,

701
00:32:28,453 --> 00:32:29,893
Speaker 2: tell him to run to the line like he was

702
00:32:29,933 --> 00:32:32,333
Speaker 2: against the Titans. They're not changing it up again. No,

703
00:32:32,453 --> 00:32:35,733
Speaker 2: they probably aren't. Vodka cruzes. Give me a break, so

704
00:32:35,853 --> 00:32:37,533
Speaker 2: I said, they said, long Whites, Oh yeah, I do,

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Speaker 2: Long Whites.

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Speaker 8: The Big League Podcast for the biggest league fans. The

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Speaker 8: Big League Podcast on the Warriors Bad Wagons since day one.

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Speaker 2: Now, just before we get into quick fire predictions, we

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Speaker 2: do want to mention the NRLW the Warriors women who

710
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:01,453
Speaker 2: went down twenty to ten against the Titans at Mount

711
00:33:01,493 --> 00:33:04,773
Speaker 2: Smart on the weekends. Obviously a bunch of new players

712
00:33:04,773 --> 00:33:07,613
Speaker 2: coming over from rugby union. The likes and sevens likes

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Speaker 2: of Patricia and the Harves has been my personal highlight

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Speaker 2: because it's such a different role to what she was

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Speaker 2: doing in union, and she's been really impressed. She's been

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Speaker 2: better than Emily Curtain in my opinion. So I've been

717
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Speaker 2: impressed with their start. They beat the Eels fourteen nil

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Would have you made it them.

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Speaker 4: Bug good good, not bad? There was always going to

720
00:33:24,093 --> 00:33:27,013
Speaker 4: be growing pains, a big learning curve. They've got so

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Speaker 4: many players that haven't played NROW, either because they're from

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Speaker 4: rugby or just because they haven't had an ny ID

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Speaker 4: team for a long time. So a lot to put together,

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Speaker 4: a lot to learn. Eel's game was really promising. The

725
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Speaker 4: two away games Roosters, they got beaten by a team

726
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Speaker 4: that's probably going to win the whole thing, and then

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00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:49,093
Speaker 4: the Knights was a good close game. Last week felt

728
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Speaker 4: like Saturday was quite disappointing though Titans played well, but

729
00:33:52,053 --> 00:33:54,853
Speaker 4: they're not They're not going to be a big contender.

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Speaker 4: I think the Warriors be really disappointed with their defense. Defensively,

731
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Speaker 4: all four tries that led in were quite poor actually,

732
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Speaker 4: so the team is a real shame. On a nice

733
00:34:04,173 --> 00:34:06,533
Speaker 4: sunny day, a decent crowd, the team didn't hit their straps.

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Speaker 4: But there's a good base there and they're developing, developing

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Speaker 4: quite nicely. All right, quick fire predictions Eels versus the

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00:34:15,173 --> 00:34:17,613
Speaker 4: Storm to start us off, and the Eels beat the

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Speaker 4: Broncos on the weekend.

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Speaker 3: B What is this competition? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Can they Can they do the Warriors another favor? Probably not,

740
00:34:24,573 --> 00:34:28,693
Speaker 4: but you never know. This is this is a stadium.

741
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Speaker 4: The Storm without Jerome Hughes, they are a different team.

742
00:34:31,893 --> 00:34:34,253
Speaker 4: So I'm still going to stick to stick with Melbourne,

743
00:34:34,493 --> 00:34:35,573
Speaker 4: but it'll be close.

744
00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:40,413
Speaker 3: Warriors versus the Dolphins. Burge, how do you see this

745
00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:41,093
Speaker 3: one place?

746
00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:43,613
Speaker 4: Hoping we would talk about this one last, Nathan, because

747
00:34:43,653 --> 00:34:45,853
Speaker 4: you know there's I want another five minutes to think

748
00:34:45,893 --> 00:34:48,253
Speaker 4: about it, to be honest, there's too much to consider here.

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00:34:48,773 --> 00:34:51,533
Speaker 4: It depends on the team he picks. Well, I'll just

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00:34:51,573 --> 00:34:53,493
Speaker 4: say like this, mate, they have to win.

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00:34:53,813 --> 00:34:54,373
Speaker 3: They have to win.

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00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:56,733
Speaker 4: If they don't win, it could get quite ugly because

753
00:34:56,733 --> 00:34:59,013
Speaker 4: if they don't beat the Titans the Dolphins, they're not

754
00:34:59,013 --> 00:35:00,733
Speaker 4: going to get close to the Bulldogs the following week

755
00:35:00,773 --> 00:35:03,253
Speaker 4: in Sydney, and then then there would have lost three

756
00:35:03,253 --> 00:35:04,533
Speaker 4: in a row and then they're going to come back

757
00:35:04,533 --> 00:35:06,293
Speaker 4: and face the Dragon too, quite a good team. So

758
00:35:06,653 --> 00:35:10,213
Speaker 4: I don't want to start thinking about that scenario. But

759
00:35:10,333 --> 00:35:13,293
Speaker 4: the Warriors have got a good game in them. They've

760
00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:15,613
Speaker 4: got to hit their straps. They are down on confidence.

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00:35:15,653 --> 00:35:17,933
Speaker 4: I think as a team. Let's hope it happens this

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00:35:17,973 --> 00:35:20,373
Speaker 4: Friday night and the Warriors to win a close one.

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00:35:20,693 --> 00:35:23,853
Speaker 4: Let's get it done. Broncos versus the Bunnies. Man, the

764
00:35:23,853 --> 00:35:26,053
Speaker 4: Bunnies were brave against the Sharks, were they? I really

765
00:35:26,053 --> 00:35:28,573
Speaker 4: thought they were gonna beat Crinello, which would have also

766
00:35:28,613 --> 00:35:32,053
Speaker 4: been good for the Warriors. But the Broncos will bounce back,

767
00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:33,813
Speaker 4: they have to, and they'll be too good for the

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Speaker 4: Rabbit has you've got no one left.

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Speaker 2: Titans versus the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: I think the Titans are well, they revert back to

771
00:35:41,773 --> 00:35:42,453
Speaker 4: being the Titans.

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00:35:42,533 --> 00:35:45,613
Speaker 2: No, they'll be useless next week. No, let's be respectful.

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00:35:45,653 --> 00:35:46,333
Speaker 2: This could be close.

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00:35:46,373 --> 00:35:47,933
Speaker 4: I think the Titans would have got a lot of

775
00:35:48,093 --> 00:35:49,573
Speaker 4: a lot out of that game in Auckland.

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00:35:50,533 --> 00:35:51,693
Speaker 3: All their sponsors were over.

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00:35:51,733 --> 00:35:53,533
Speaker 4: I saw them all walking into the justtioning room, that

778
00:35:53,733 --> 00:35:56,573
Speaker 4: just you know, twenty of them. Big night in the

779
00:35:56,573 --> 00:35:58,613
Speaker 4: Turps the night before another big not coming. It just

780
00:35:58,693 --> 00:36:01,853
Speaker 4: made you made you feel even worse, it really did.

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00:36:01,933 --> 00:36:06,333
Speaker 4: It was like it's their Grand Final and they've done it. Panthers, though,

782
00:36:06,453 --> 00:36:08,813
Speaker 4: Panthers are I really like what the Pants doing. So

783
00:36:09,733 --> 00:36:12,573
Speaker 4: they'll beat the Tits just three points away from the

784
00:36:12,573 --> 00:36:14,693
Speaker 4: Warriors there in fifth. Now the Panthers here they come.

785
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:18,493
Speaker 4: Dragons versus the Raiders. I guess if the Raiders are

786
00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:21,253
Speaker 4: going to lose a game in the running because they're flying.

787
00:36:21,933 --> 00:36:25,413
Speaker 4: This could be the one the Dragons good team, good

788
00:36:25,413 --> 00:36:29,653
Speaker 4: team at home. But the Raiders are just so full

789
00:36:29,653 --> 00:36:33,053
Speaker 4: of confidence. I love the way they're playing, and they'll

790
00:36:33,093 --> 00:36:33,893
Speaker 4: win this one as well.

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00:36:34,093 --> 00:36:35,533
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the Dragons. Said cause a

792
00:36:35,573 --> 00:36:39,253
Speaker 2: little upset. Seagles versus the Roosters. What the hell happened

793
00:36:39,293 --> 00:36:42,813
Speaker 2: to the Seagules on the weekend? They got absolutely mowed down.

794
00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:45,333
Speaker 2: And there's second half. I mean it's twelve four at

795
00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:47,093
Speaker 2: half time. Bird, there's twelve four at half time. In

796
00:36:47,133 --> 00:36:49,773
Speaker 2: the final score was forty two four.

797
00:36:51,133 --> 00:36:53,933
Speaker 4: Six tries in the second half. Yeah, this is a

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00:36:53,973 --> 00:36:57,533
Speaker 4: week after mainly beat the storm. You know, how do

799
00:36:57,613 --> 00:37:00,293
Speaker 4: you how can you get a read on this competition?

800
00:37:00,493 --> 00:37:03,133
Speaker 4: How can you make expert tips? How can you do

801
00:37:03,173 --> 00:37:03,893
Speaker 4: what we're trying to do?

802
00:37:04,653 --> 00:37:04,813
Speaker 2: Well?

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00:37:04,853 --> 00:37:05,213
Speaker 3: You can't.

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00:37:05,213 --> 00:37:09,933
Speaker 4: That's why we're both doing so badly. Seagules rooster Seagules

805
00:37:09,933 --> 00:37:10,253
Speaker 4: at home.

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00:37:10,373 --> 00:37:12,093
Speaker 3: Roosters. Oh, I don't know.

807
00:37:12,093 --> 00:37:13,693
Speaker 4: Do the Seagulls bounce back from that? Or do you

808
00:37:13,693 --> 00:37:16,333
Speaker 4: go the Roosters? I go the Roosters. I agree with

809
00:37:16,333 --> 00:37:20,213
Speaker 4: you stuff Tiger's Bulldogs as much as I would love

810
00:37:20,613 --> 00:37:24,893
Speaker 4: the Tigers Belmaine to beat the Bulldogs. I can't see it.

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00:37:25,093 --> 00:37:26,893
Speaker 4: The Bulldogs are back, aren't they?

812
00:37:27,733 --> 00:37:31,133
Speaker 2: And Sharks Cowboys to finish in Coronella.

813
00:37:31,253 --> 00:37:33,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Sharks are another team that are circling, aren't

814
00:37:33,693 --> 00:37:36,773
Speaker 4: they circling the Warriors. They're on twenty six points, the

815
00:37:36,813 --> 00:37:39,933
Speaker 4: Warriors are on thirty. But the war the Sharks have

816
00:37:39,973 --> 00:37:42,333
Speaker 4: a bye still to come, so that puts them up

817
00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:44,893
Speaker 4: to twenty eight. Does that make you nervous? With pen

818
00:37:44,973 --> 00:37:45,653
Speaker 4: to twenty seven?

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Speaker 3: Much? We need to win. They need to win, need

820
00:37:51,053 --> 00:37:51,933
Speaker 3: to win just to keep that.

821
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Speaker 4: There's still too long to go before that finals to

822
00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:58,093
Speaker 4: have this slipping In the Melbourne cuping he would lead

823
00:37:58,133 --> 00:37:59,893
Speaker 4: of only two lengths with four hundred meters to go.

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Speaker 3: It's like gets you, get you nervous? So Sharks Sharks

825
00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:07,013
Speaker 3: to win that one. That'll do us for this week?

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Speaker 3: What an episode.

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Speaker 2: I feel exhausted, Verge after all that trauma, A couple

828
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Speaker 2: of Voca Cruz absolutely the other date just have absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Please follow and rate the podcast.

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Speaker 3: My name is Nathan.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Michael Burgess for your time and your wisdom

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Speaker 2: and your insight. We'll be back next Monthing to digest,

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00:38:25,773 --> 00:38:30,093
Speaker 2: what is hopefully please a win over the Dolphins at

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Speaker 2: and how Smart have a fantastic week.

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