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Speaker 1: The next step in the Shane Jones crusade to get

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Speaker 1: this country mining again. He's across the Tasman. I think

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Speaker 1: he goes on to the States after that to promote

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Speaker 1: investment and growth. In a nutshell, he's looking to build

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Speaker 1: confidence in our mining. Second and Allison Paul's a senior

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Speaker 1: VP Legal and Public Affairs for Oceania Gold and is

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: Allison Mourning, good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: Is the industry fully cognizant both here and in Australia

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Speaker 1: of our government stance and what we want to achieve?

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Speaker 2: Yes? In a nutshell, yes, This minister has been pretty

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Speaker 2: active and he's been at a range of conferences, including

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Speaker 2: attending a big conference in Canada earlier this year, very

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Speaker 2: well received.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So is the industry on board with what broadly

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Speaker 1: speaking he's keen on doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fair to say it's a vibe across the

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Speaker 2: sector around the world, and in fact, other jurisdictions are

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Speaker 2: looking at what's happening in New Zealand with interest. I

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Speaker 2: think there's a huge interest in minerals everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Will people start digging here because the oil and gas

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Speaker 1: problem is Yes, they put a couple of hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars up to get skin in the game. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got the specter of an election next year, the

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Speaker 1: possibility of labor coming back, therefore killing it all.

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Speaker 2: Is that a problem, isn't It isn't even the oil

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Speaker 2: and gas ban and I can't speak for them, but

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Speaker 2: that involved grandfathering or essentially retaining existing permits. So I

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Speaker 2: think the focus in the industry at the moment is

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Speaker 2: looking to get those permits in hand, and fast track

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Speaker 2: process is a huge part of that. So getting into

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Speaker 2: that process and seeing that take route and it's working,

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Speaker 2: I'd have to say it's a good process.

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Speaker 1: Oh good. So the fact so you speak well of

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Speaker 1: fast track it is successful and people are here and

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Speaker 1: they're starting to dig.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We've got a project in that process that

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Speaker 2: comes to a decision before Christmas, and for us it's

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Speaker 2: been a good experience. I think they're going to get

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Speaker 2: where we need to get.

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Speaker 1: How much of it's about gold and we all know

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Speaker 1: about the gold price at the moment versus other metals

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Speaker 1: that we may or may not know about that are

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Speaker 1: involved in data and AI and all that sort of stuf.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's all of that in New Zealand. We have

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Speaker 2: quite a small mining sector compared to something like Australia,

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Speaker 2: and gold and coal have been the big employers and

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Speaker 2: the big trainers of miners in New Zealand. We make

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Speaker 2: great miners here, but we need that sector to be

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Speaker 2: there and thriving for those other rare earth minerals and

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Speaker 2: the other important critical minerals to get a foothold. So

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Speaker 2: if we get it right the industry here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, if we get it right. How much potential

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Speaker 1: does the industry have here? Are we worth mining? Are

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Speaker 1: we a mining country?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? We're worst mining. We've Ocean and Gold's been here

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Speaker 2: for thirty five years successfully mining and we've got four mines,

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Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, two of them

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Speaker 2: are in New Zealand. So half our business is still

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Speaker 2: here in New Zealand. We've grown off the back of that.

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Speaker 2: So you can definitely mine successfully in New Zealand. You

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Speaker 2: need to make sure that you do the right thing

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Speaker 2: and that's very import order into New Zealand, as it

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Speaker 2: is to the miners who are active in the country.

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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Alison. Appreciator Ellison Paul, who's

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Speaker 1: the Senior VP Legal and Public affairs at Oceania gob.

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