1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Right, Oh, Tim and Katy is whether it's Tim and Katy, 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: good morning. 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Good morning. I was just saying to Sam, he'd probably 4 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: rather be on jury judy at this rate, with all 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: the abuse he's getting from you this. 6 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: Morning, exactly exactly, he would be treated respectfully, he would 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: be listened to, he would have some some power. But 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 3: he's just he's a prisoner, isn't he, Katy. He's a 9 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: prisoner of the Hosking regime. He is. 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Do you know what the Hosking region. It's a very 11 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: good point you make him, Do you know what? The 12 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Hosking regime is continual continual improvement. And I'm not here 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: for slackers. Relentless, relentless, continual improvement. And it's a simple 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: it's a simple printer. It's a very very base printer. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Because the budgets here at News Talk z ZBI represent these, 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: so they make it simple to change the printer. It's 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: not hard and I just it's all I had to 18 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: do this morning was double handle it. And I fiddled. 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: And it's always the person who comes in after the 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: person who fiddled with it first. 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: That exactly seems to have fixed it. 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: When the person who fiddled with at first, a. 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: Actually actually did affect it. Actually, and look, look, I'd 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: love to keep talking about this printer, but I've got 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: President Trump on the other line, so I'm going to 26 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: have to go. 27 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Is it like opening the jar, so you try and 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: open the jar and you can't, and you hand it 29 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: to the person. Then goes easy. So that's what you're arguing. 30 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm the jar opener in our house. I opened the 31 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: jars because of a bulging biceps. 32 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. By the way, the call for 33 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Trump Sam won that, so he's had a good week. 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: He was right on the money in terms of how 35 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: late the call was. 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: Did you want any money or food or something. 37 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: No, you're not allowed money and food on competitions on 38 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: this radio station. So members of the staff. It's the 39 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: classic old rule. It's members of the staff. Again, it's 40 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: not the way. 41 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: We got nothing. 42 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: He just got kudos exactly. So he was a winner there. 43 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: But as have you ever been on jury duty? 44 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: I got called up for it. I got called up 45 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: for it once and then I just I was too 46 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: I was too busy at work, like like you like work? 47 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Later, what's that? Did you write an MTI metic work letter? 48 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 49 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they accept me. That went away, 50 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: and they went away. 51 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: I sort of. I actually I have thought at times, oh, 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind trying it. But then 53 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: when I heard about Sam, who's got threat? Like you said, 54 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: about three weeks to spare. 55 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Who's got time to sit in the room with eleven 56 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: other people? What do you reckon the ratio of gornelosce 57 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: idiots is twelve randomly selected people. I reckon it's eighty 58 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: two percent. 59 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: It's it's right up there formost idiots, people who have 60 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: no clue. There's certainly not your peers, that's for sure. 61 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: I stood in Bob Jones's office once and he was smoked. 62 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: He was smoking his pipe in his office, steering out 63 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: over Wellington Harbor, and he said, I was called up 64 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: for jury duty the other day? And I said, how'd 65 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: that go for you? He goes, I've never seen the like. 66 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: Do you realize, Mike Puff Puff Puff? There were people 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: in that room wearing tracksuit pants. What has the world 68 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: come to? 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: Why if you're settling in for three weeks, you should 70 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: be in your trackees, you. 71 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: Be in your trackies. And and if you were doing it, 72 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: if you were called up, and by the way, they 73 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: would call your name, I think, and a lawyer would 74 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 3: immediately go challenge you. Just you wouldn't even get out 75 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: of your seat exactly, but you'd be there in your 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: one of one of your T shirts. 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I would rather, I would rather, I would run. Part 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: of my problem with jury duty is you're not being 79 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: judged by your peers. Are you the average person in 80 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: court being judged by anyone who's got a job and 81 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: is professional and is generally a half decent human being. 82 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Is not the peer of the person in court in general, are. 83 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: They No, You're relying one hundred percent on your lawyer, 84 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: as proven in the Polking Hornk case. You're relying on 85 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: your lawyer, not your jury. 86 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Although more judge a good lawyer, I argue for more 87 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: judge trials because they're generally sort of cognizant, know what 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: they're doing. They're voluntarily there anyway, or and or and 89 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm slightly weak on this, but and or a group 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: of people who'd be keen. My fear for the group 91 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: of people who be keen is you have trainspos. 92 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: Get you get you get self selecting, busy bodies, and 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: you're sort of creating I think a like a like 94 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: a class of professional jurors. That's the last thing you want. 95 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: And then they have Well, I tell you what, I 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: was on three trials last year, and I was right 97 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: on every single one of them. What about you? Are 98 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: you trial four? Are you get a lot of that? 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you? 100 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: Oh you'll find this joke likes to say X, Y 101 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: and Z. I would dismiss it. Why are we doing 102 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: this voice? 103 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, because it sounded good when we started 104 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: at the answer, Caddy. 105 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: When did it become. 106 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: I just saw you get another headline this morning, so 107 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: and so claps back? When did that become a saying. 108 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: Well, claps You know what a clapbake is? 109 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: Now? 110 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: What is it? 111 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: Well? 112 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: I know what it is, but I just won't it 113 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: becomes it seemingly a trendy thing that everyone needs to say. 114 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: Now. 115 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's new that 116 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: the media are using it. Is that what you're saying? 117 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Oh, so it's been around for ages, has it? 118 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? I've heard Yeah, it's like ten years, right, kay, Katie? 119 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've grown up with you know, we've 120 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: raised five children who've all clapped back many times it's 121 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: sas it's giving you a serve, it's a sarcastic quip 122 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: or remark, or you know, responding to criticism quickly. We've 123 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 2: you know, how is that not familiar to you? 124 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Well, because I'm probably a dinosaur. So two morals questions 125 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: for you. Are you ready the woman from TV and 126 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Z whose name I've momentarily forgotten takes, who allegedly is 127 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: going to be in charge of everything at TB and Z, 128 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: takes personal leave to go on the protest much given 129 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: who she is and who she works for, is that 130 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: wise and acceptable? 131 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: Yes? 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Or no? 133 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Katie. 134 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: I've thought about this a lot because having worked with 135 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: the execs at both TV and Z and Z me 136 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: I know for certain that they think very clearly. The 137 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: execsid ends in me about what they do and how 138 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: they participate in life outside of business hours, and that 139 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: is something you've got to think about. On the one hand, 140 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: she's entitled to take personal leave and do whatever she wants. 141 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: On the other hand, if you're in charge of something 142 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: that affects a wide group of people, which is seen 143 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 2: to be got to be seen to be representing everybody, 144 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: then the minute you stick your colors to one mask, 145 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: then you're made it very clear you're not representing everybody, 146 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: and therefore they'll there'll be a clapback or a knock 147 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: on effect for your the people you represent, which is 148 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: your audience, which is your customers, which is your advertisers. 149 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: So to me, that's an own goal and she shouldn't 150 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: have done it. 151 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: Tim totally agree that TV and Z has to demonstrate impartiality. Well, 152 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: said Katie. 153 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: See because Jason was giving me the example of the 154 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: strip club, and he went to the legal team to ask, 155 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: is it okay if I go to the strip club? 156 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: You are so full of crack? One Jason would never 157 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: ask that. Two that never happened. And three Jason is 158 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: the person I was thinking about. He holds the bar. 159 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: You're going to need some rating evidence. 160 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Here, Glenn, you were there, Yeah. 161 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 4: That this did. This conversation did. 162 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: In the news at eight o'clock. 163 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: I also add that that according to Miriam Webster, clapback 164 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: was first use. The first known use of it was 165 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety WHOA. 166 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: That's so embarrassing. 167 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: I feel like kind of clapback to be fair to Jason, 168 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: to be that's a mic drop, to be fair. 169 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: To Jason, he didn't go, and he finds it morally 170 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: repugnant in gooing because he represents people, and therefore he 171 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: was saying it's not acceptable behavior. But the legal team said, 172 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: go for you, go for gold. 173 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: Also, to be fair to Jason, he wasn't just asking 174 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: them if he could go to a strip club. He 175 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 4: was saying, say, for example, I was invited to a stagdoo. 176 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: Right right. 177 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: He wasn't just going to pop down at lunchtime. 178 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 179 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, was bright. I don't think he'd get 180 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: in anywhere near kill you within a strip club. 181 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: No, that's not true. 182 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: I think if you're an opinion based service, or if 183 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: she was an editorial writer or her job, well, she's. 184 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: Going to be in charge of the news allegedly. 185 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: Exactly, which is supposed to be impartial. Therefore, you shouldn't 186 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: you represent impartiality? 187 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah you have to. 188 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, next moral question. And this was a revelation 189 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: to me. You know how John Krasinski was named the 190 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: sexiest man in the world this week by People magazine. 191 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: What I didn't realize is he wasn't their first choice, 192 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: and they go to other people, and the other people 193 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: turned them down? What exactly? 194 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: Really? 195 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 196 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh do you have to get permission? 197 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: And see I knew this was news. I knew it. Wow, 198 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: So you so, ho won? Who's the real sexiest hold 199 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: man in the pink pinup? So you go to the people, 200 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: you get thereby, and so therefore you get the photo 201 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: shooting a few comments. So they went first to Glenn Powell. 202 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that makes sense. 203 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: And then when Glenn turned them down, they went to 204 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal. 205 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: Why do you turn them down? I'm so because the. 206 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: People magazine and being called the sexiest man in the 207 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: world's in them? Back the old guy. 208 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Because John Kristinsky would be a bit older, wouldn't he John? 209 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. 210 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: Everybody sexy the sixtiest meeting. 211 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: How does that work? And then people go People magazine available. 212 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just everything is not as it seems, 213 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: is my point. Until you know you dig a little 214 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: bit deeper. That's that's why we're here. This is what 215 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: we do every Friday. We sort it out fair enough. 216 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: Have you seen the New Zealand video by the way, 217 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: just quickly? 218 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: No? Is it good? 219 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Okay? 220 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: How would we have seen it? 221 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: How would we have seen it. 222 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: I feel like Tim gave you the perfect opportunity to 223 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: wrap up that segment. It would have been so beautifully 224 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 4: tied up with a bow, and then you just. 225 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Keep pushing a little bit faster. 226 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: On the line. I've got to go. 227 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: In answer to your question, Tim, they're they're get ready 228 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: to take off video. In answer to your question, Katie, No, 229 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: And that is the end of the segment. 230 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: For more or from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live 231 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: to News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or 232 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.