1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:17,507 Speaker 2: Eight of increasingly bitter verbal jousting. The biggest Trans Tasman 4 00:00:17,947 --> 00:00:20,147 Speaker 2: grudge match of all time is Finding in It at 5 00:00:20,147 --> 00:00:23,707 Speaker 2: the Boxing Ring powered by Minuca Fuel. Sunny Bill Williams 6 00:00:23,987 --> 00:00:27,387 Speaker 2: and Paul Gallant will finally meet in the boxing ring 7 00:00:27,467 --> 00:00:31,707 Speaker 2: at Kudos Bank Arena in Sydney on Wednesday July sixteen 8 00:00:31,867 --> 00:00:35,827 Speaker 2: from seven thirty New Zealand time, live and exclusive in 9 00:00:35,907 --> 00:00:39,747 Speaker 2: New Zealand on pay per view from Sky Arena and Skysport. Now, 10 00:00:39,827 --> 00:00:43,947 Speaker 2: let's bring in Paul Gallon, twenty sixteen NROL Premiership winner 11 00:00:44,227 --> 00:00:46,827 Speaker 2: with the Sharks, for who he played three hundred and 12 00:00:46,827 --> 00:00:49,787 Speaker 2: forty eight matches, New South Wales state of origin captain, 13 00:00:50,067 --> 00:00:53,267 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen Rugby League World Cup winner with the Kangaroos 14 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:57,547 Speaker 2: and three time Dally M Locke of the Year and 15 00:00:57,627 --> 00:01:01,707 Speaker 2: sunny Bill Williams opponent on July sixteen, Paul, Welcome to 16 00:01:01,747 --> 00:01:04,067 Speaker 2: the show. Why has this taken so long? 17 00:01:06,347 --> 00:01:08,427 Speaker 3: I have to ask, Yeah, you can Patriot Senning Bill 18 00:01:08,467 --> 00:01:10,987 Speaker 3: Williams the cow that he didn't want to go near me, 19 00:01:11,307 --> 00:01:13,627 Speaker 3: So that's pretty much the reason mate, there's now there's 20 00:01:13,667 --> 00:01:15,427 Speaker 3: no other reason for it. It's been spoken about for 21 00:01:15,427 --> 00:01:18,107 Speaker 3: a long time. I think early on in the piece 22 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:19,667 Speaker 3: it was sort of never really going to happen, but 23 00:01:19,747 --> 00:01:23,027 Speaker 3: so certainly from two thousands of the eighty nineteen twenty one, Yeah, 24 00:01:23,027 --> 00:01:23,907 Speaker 3: he did, you want to borrow me? 25 00:01:24,627 --> 00:01:26,467 Speaker 2: You haven't been in the ring for what three years? 26 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:28,147 Speaker 2: Was this the only fight you'd come back for? 27 00:01:29,187 --> 00:01:31,907 Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely one had forty three years out on forty 28 00:01:31,907 --> 00:01:35,707 Speaker 3: four after after this fight, a month after the fight, 29 00:01:35,747 --> 00:01:37,467 Speaker 3: and it's been the last time I come back for. 30 00:01:37,667 --> 00:01:38,827 Speaker 3: I told it was all back there. I said, they 31 00:01:38,827 --> 00:01:41,067 Speaker 3: everyone back in twenty and twenty one. Publicly something's waiting 32 00:01:41,107 --> 00:01:43,507 Speaker 3: for me to get too old, which is exactly what 33 00:01:43,547 --> 00:01:45,867 Speaker 3: he's done. But you know what, I think I've got 34 00:01:45,947 --> 00:01:48,027 Speaker 3: enough left in me to get the job done. 35 00:01:48,387 --> 00:01:51,267 Speaker 2: Why didn't you turn up to the fight announcement press conference? 36 00:01:52,787 --> 00:01:55,267 Speaker 3: Because it made it go bigger than what it would 37 00:01:55,267 --> 00:01:56,507 Speaker 3: have been. It would have turned up and it would 38 00:01:56,547 --> 00:01:58,227 Speaker 3: have caught him a count for only fight two minute 39 00:01:58,307 --> 00:02:00,947 Speaker 3: rounds and would have been the same old who are 40 00:02:01,107 --> 00:02:02,547 Speaker 3: But you know I didn't turn up and then made 41 00:02:02,587 --> 00:02:06,627 Speaker 3: it go hold I did. Today boxing is about plays 42 00:02:06,707 --> 00:02:09,067 Speaker 3: exposure and creating a bit of hype, and that's what it. 43 00:02:09,027 --> 00:02:13,587 Speaker 2: Did the two minute rounds. How does first of all, 44 00:02:13,627 --> 00:02:15,107 Speaker 2: you're obviously not a fan of it, but how does 45 00:02:15,107 --> 00:02:16,427 Speaker 2: it change your fight strategy? 46 00:02:17,947 --> 00:02:20,627 Speaker 3: Just through tam Man. I mean, he's a big guy. 47 00:02:20,627 --> 00:02:24,067 Speaker 3: He's a powerful afelete. We understand that, and power runs 48 00:02:24,107 --> 00:02:29,867 Speaker 3: out pretty quickly in combat sports. And then it's longer 49 00:02:29,867 --> 00:02:31,187 Speaker 3: than me. He's tall than me. He just wants to 50 00:02:31,227 --> 00:02:32,627 Speaker 3: keep me, arrange be how to hold me when I 51 00:02:32,667 --> 00:02:34,867 Speaker 3: come insude, which also need a lot to hold intentionally 52 00:02:34,867 --> 00:02:37,907 Speaker 3: in boxing years. So he's just he's just put the 53 00:02:37,987 --> 00:02:40,947 Speaker 3: chips in his favor and try to stack everything in favor. 54 00:02:41,027 --> 00:02:43,467 Speaker 3: But as I said, man, by the end of the fight, 55 00:02:43,707 --> 00:02:45,107 Speaker 3: I'll get hold of him and I'll win. 56 00:02:45,747 --> 00:02:50,187 Speaker 2: He has made suggestions that you're using performance enhancing drugs. 57 00:02:50,587 --> 00:02:51,827 Speaker 2: What is your response to that. 58 00:02:52,267 --> 00:02:55,707 Speaker 3: No, it's just a ridiculous man. It's it's him to 59 00:02:55,707 --> 00:02:59,187 Speaker 3: look at for exist. I thought, it is what what 60 00:02:59,307 --> 00:02:59,507 Speaker 3: is it? 61 00:02:59,787 --> 00:03:02,107 Speaker 2: I mean, how much does that hurt them when you 62 00:03:02,187 --> 00:03:04,507 Speaker 2: hear comments like that from him? 63 00:03:04,707 --> 00:03:06,107 Speaker 3: Look, at the end of the day, I think you 64 00:03:06,147 --> 00:03:10,147 Speaker 3: had a respect well the person that's saying it, And 65 00:03:10,227 --> 00:03:12,707 Speaker 3: I don't respect him. He's an idiot. Honestly, he's an 66 00:03:12,747 --> 00:03:15,467 Speaker 3: absolute dope. I've got no respect for him as enemy. 67 00:03:15,587 --> 00:03:18,307 Speaker 3: So to be able to listen to things from a 68 00:03:18,387 --> 00:03:20,627 Speaker 3: person who don't respect it from a person they like, 69 00:03:20,707 --> 00:03:25,547 Speaker 3: it's water products back on. So he has no my life. Yeah, 70 00:03:26,267 --> 00:03:27,107 Speaker 3: I don't like him. 71 00:03:27,507 --> 00:03:31,267 Speaker 2: He's been training with Ossie Cruz White world champion Jai Opataia, 72 00:03:31,267 --> 00:03:33,587 Speaker 2: who I know. You know, Well, do you think he's 73 00:03:33,627 --> 00:03:35,027 Speaker 2: going to try and fight like Gay does? 74 00:03:36,307 --> 00:03:38,507 Speaker 3: Well? Look, I think at the end of the day 75 00:03:38,507 --> 00:03:41,507 Speaker 3: he's tally dremmy, which you can. I mean, I spy 76 00:03:41,587 --> 00:03:44,547 Speaker 3: a joy beside before he went to school fifteen years 77 00:03:44,547 --> 00:03:46,587 Speaker 3: ago when he was sixteen seventeen years of age to 78 00:03:46,667 --> 00:03:48,547 Speaker 3: drive down and spy me and Corey Patterson, a couple 79 00:03:48,547 --> 00:03:51,867 Speaker 3: of footy players before school. And Blake's been training his 80 00:03:51,907 --> 00:03:54,347 Speaker 3: whole life to be a fighter. And he thinks something 81 00:03:54,387 --> 00:03:56,547 Speaker 3: things on six or seven weeks training camp with Joe, 82 00:03:56,707 --> 00:03:59,667 Speaker 3: you a rat to fight like Gia. I find the laughable. 83 00:04:00,387 --> 00:04:02,467 Speaker 3: It just got to Shaw insecureus. And he's the type 84 00:04:02,507 --> 00:04:04,387 Speaker 3: of person I need to have people around him and 85 00:04:04,707 --> 00:04:06,747 Speaker 3: tell him everything's going to be okay, and and telling 86 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:09,307 Speaker 3: me he's doing well, like every day boxes sports. I 87 00:04:09,307 --> 00:04:11,107 Speaker 3: can't get in there and fight for him, cap up 88 00:04:11,107 --> 00:04:13,867 Speaker 3: a tie, can't get in there and fight for him. Yeah, 89 00:04:13,907 --> 00:04:17,627 Speaker 3: it's another example of insecurity. Sonny has a bed himself. 90 00:04:18,067 --> 00:04:19,587 Speaker 2: How is your training for the fight going? 91 00:04:20,587 --> 00:04:22,467 Speaker 3: Gods? All right? Made? You know? I think when you 92 00:04:22,507 --> 00:04:24,987 Speaker 3: get to in your forties things a little bit harder, 93 00:04:25,027 --> 00:04:27,467 Speaker 3: but you know that's that's just life. I'll be fine. 94 00:04:27,747 --> 00:04:29,507 Speaker 2: How much have you had to alter things now that 95 00:04:29,547 --> 00:04:30,547 Speaker 2: you're you're getting a. 96 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:33,267 Speaker 3: Bit older, So yeah, we've got to pull back a 97 00:04:33,307 --> 00:04:35,667 Speaker 3: little bit. Came from trainings intense as you once did 98 00:04:35,747 --> 00:04:38,547 Speaker 3: that for sure, but yeah, okay for a sort of 99 00:04:38,867 --> 00:04:41,507 Speaker 3: chick and do a little routine that we're good going 100 00:04:41,547 --> 00:04:42,907 Speaker 3: and things aren't okay? 101 00:04:43,307 --> 00:04:44,347 Speaker 2: Will this be your last hour? 102 00:04:44,707 --> 00:04:44,947 Speaker 1: Paul? 103 00:04:44,987 --> 00:04:45,427 Speaker 2: The last time? 104 00:04:46,507 --> 00:04:49,507 Speaker 3: And doubt a forty four one month after the fight, 105 00:04:49,827 --> 00:04:52,347 Speaker 3: Sunny's Sonny's done, Welder, It's a way until I've got 106 00:04:52,347 --> 00:04:55,307 Speaker 3: past my best. I've sat there front many times. Have 107 00:04:55,387 --> 00:04:57,707 Speaker 3: you that that's what he's waiting to do? And yeh, 108 00:04:57,707 --> 00:05:00,147 Speaker 3: he's done that. But I still think I've got enough 109 00:05:00,227 --> 00:05:01,347 Speaker 3: left in me to beat his play? 110 00:05:02,147 --> 00:05:03,427 Speaker 2: Is this all real? You talk about? 111 00:05:03,467 --> 00:05:03,667 Speaker 3: You know? 112 00:05:03,867 --> 00:05:06,387 Speaker 2: Hype and boxing has always been about that. But but 113 00:05:06,867 --> 00:05:09,467 Speaker 2: there is this genuine dislike for him on your part. 114 00:05:09,947 --> 00:05:13,227 Speaker 3: I've got absolutely their respect for this plate. There's nothing 115 00:05:13,267 --> 00:05:15,107 Speaker 3: about him, if at all, nothing. 116 00:05:16,867 --> 00:05:18,547 Speaker 2: But god on New South Wales. Couldn't get the job 117 00:05:18,547 --> 00:05:19,747 Speaker 2: done in Origin too, mate. 118 00:05:20,427 --> 00:05:22,627 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they scored more tries in the position and 119 00:05:22,627 --> 00:05:25,827 Speaker 3: we're beaten. That's not a good way to go down. Obviously, 120 00:05:26,427 --> 00:05:28,827 Speaker 3: goal kicking was issue for them, has been in the 121 00:05:28,867 --> 00:05:31,427 Speaker 3: first two games. But then the right to get a 122 00:05:31,467 --> 00:05:33,347 Speaker 3: decider and bring it down the citny because they won 123 00:05:33,387 --> 00:05:36,427 Speaker 3: that first game. So I think then they said just play, 124 00:05:37,107 --> 00:05:39,107 Speaker 3: play the way they can play, and probably living on 125 00:05:39,107 --> 00:05:41,227 Speaker 3: a discipline in the first half, they win the match. 126 00:05:41,507 --> 00:05:42,827 Speaker 3: I think they get the job done. 127 00:05:42,987 --> 00:05:44,547 Speaker 2: All right, We'll just back to the fight finally, a 128 00:05:44,547 --> 00:05:46,347 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of punters on the side of 129 00:05:46,347 --> 00:05:48,627 Speaker 2: the gitch. You'll be signing up for pay per view. 130 00:05:49,387 --> 00:05:51,707 Speaker 2: What are we going to see on July sixteenth? 131 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:54,307 Speaker 3: I think by then the fight. I catch up with 132 00:05:54,347 --> 00:05:56,267 Speaker 3: him now. He's obviously gone the shorter rounds of two 133 00:05:56,267 --> 00:05:58,787 Speaker 3: min the rounds because it suits him and he wants 134 00:05:58,827 --> 00:06:00,547 Speaker 3: to keep me at bay, keep me away from him 135 00:06:00,667 --> 00:06:02,707 Speaker 3: with his length, and when I get closer, probably I 136 00:06:02,747 --> 00:06:03,947 Speaker 3: tie me up. But at the end of the day, 137 00:06:04,227 --> 00:06:07,147 Speaker 3: this is boxing all that intentionally hold her, intentionally tie up. 138 00:06:07,187 --> 00:06:10,427 Speaker 3: So hopefully the referees under that and yeah, I think 139 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:11,787 Speaker 3: by the end for final knock him out. 140 00:06:12,387 --> 00:06:14,067 Speaker 2: All the best to you, Paul, thanks for joining us. 141 00:06:13,947 --> 00:06:15,507 Speaker 3: Mate, Thanks mate South. 142 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:19,747 Speaker 2: Paul Gallon up against Sunny Bill Williams Kudos Bank Arena, Sydney, 143 00:06:19,827 --> 00:06:22,267 Speaker 2: July sixteenth, seven thirty New Zealand Time powered by Men 144 00:06:22,307 --> 00:06:25,267 Speaker 2: You Could Feel. Get it live and exclusive in New 145 00:06:25,387 --> 00:06:28,467 Speaker 2: Zealand on pay per view from sky Arena Skysport Now. No, 146 00:06:28,747 --> 00:06:31,147 Speaker 2: not a lot of gray area there from Paul Gallon 147 00:06:31,467 --> 00:06:34,787 Speaker 2: the way he feels about side Pil Williams. 148 00:06:35,667 --> 00:06:38,867 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 149 00:06:38,947 --> 00:06:42,267 Speaker 1: to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow 150 00:06:42,307 --> 00:06:43,907 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.