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Speaker 1: Bars, restaurant's, hotels Whole Bunch are next up for David

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Speaker 1: Seymour's red tape cutting. Now he has tasked the Ministry

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Speaker 1: of Regulation with reviewing hospitality industry rules Hospitality New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Sam McKinnon is with us. Hey, Sam, Heather, how, I'm

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Speaker 1: very well, thank you give me the stupidest rule that

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Speaker 1: you've come across.

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Speaker 2: Do you know that grandparents can't take grandkids to the

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Speaker 2: pub because they're not considered legal guardians?

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Speaker 1: That is that's pretty dumb. So was that even if

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Speaker 1: what's under the age of what.

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Speaker 2: Under eighteen? So in a supervised area, you can have

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Speaker 2: an under eighteen can be in a supervised area as

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Speaker 2: long as they were the parent or a legal guardian.

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Speaker 2: But if your grandparents not considered your legal guardian, they

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Speaker 2: can't take you to And this is.

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Speaker 1: And Sam, this is not even the kid drinking. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's the kid just being there.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly just being on the on the premise exactly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're punting that one to David Seymour's ministry to

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Speaker 1: get that one got rid of.

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Speaker 2: That will definitely be on the list. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I guess one of the things for us as the

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Speaker 2: terms of reference notes that there's about thirteen different ministerial

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Speaker 2: portfolios that this review could impact, and so that kind

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Speaker 2: of speaks to the myriad of regulations that that hospitality

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Speaker 2: has to find its way through just to operate a business.

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Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I mean the point of the review

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Speaker 2: for US, I guess, while there are some of these

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Speaker 2: raally sort of stupid rules that are in place, the

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Speaker 2: opportunity for the industry to be able to have a

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Speaker 2: comprehensive look at all of the different areas that cut

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Speaker 2: across what it takes to run a hospitality venue is

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Speaker 2: the real opportunity here.

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Speaker 1: How much do you reckon these rules are costing you guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's obviously hard to put a dollar

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Speaker 2: figure on that, but you know, we know that there's

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Speaker 2: opportunities costs. So the rules and rigs that we're facing,

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Speaker 2: we're regularly here from our members that that impacts their

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Speaker 2: investment decisions or the number of staff that they're trying

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Speaker 2: to employ, and that obviously has flow ons to how

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Speaker 2: the industry grows or how the business itself grows. So

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, being able to cut through some

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Speaker 2: of this stuff, and I guess just provide some certainty

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Speaker 2: for business owners and in a clearer sort of way

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Speaker 2: forward is the key thing for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, good to talk to you, Appreciate you time,

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Speaker 1: make best of luck with it at Sam McKinnon Hospitality,

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