1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Well, the government's dropped a two hundred and fifty page 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: monster to replace the RMA, the Resource Management Act. It 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: wants two new laws, one for planning, one for the environment, 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: and it wants clearer rules and what councils can and 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: can't regulate. It's estimated this will have the number of consents. 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: It's estimated this will save thirteen billion dollars in costs 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: over thirty years, but some people are worried that the 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: environment could still could get down damage. Bruce Weir is 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: an independent urban planner and strategic development expert, and it 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: joins me. Now, good morning to you. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: Good morning, Andrew, so very good. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: This is a generational change and everyone's been talking about 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: reform of the RMA forever, ever since they came in 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one. So what's your reaction to it. 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh, it's great, it's awesome, fantastic. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, no downside at all. 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Ah. Look, there will always be coups of these things 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: when they come in. You know, the stuff about compensation 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: is going to be a bit of a headache. But 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: no med league people. There's been so much nonsense going 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: on in planning and people have rightly been frustrated with 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: what's been going on. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: So the very first email I got in my inbox 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: yesterday after the announcement at one o'clock came from Forest 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: and Bird who said this will negatively impact on New 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: Zealand's environment and that there's not enough safeguards and that's 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: why the RMA was that was developed and made so 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: monstrously huge in the in the first place. What do 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: you reckon to that? 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh, look, I think the main thing that I see. 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: The biggest improvement here is that there's a planning tribune 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: that you can go to a few if everybody's unhappy 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: and there's a big issue, there's there's somewhere you can 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: go to. The problem we have at the moment is 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: it sort of almost gets so lit tous that it 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: favors those who have a lot of money. And so 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: what happens is that you can get help. And there's 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: cases I've been involved with for years, years and years 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: going through where those who have a lot of capital 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: can canstall a process. It's really frustrating even for councils. 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: No I understand, I understand. I know a number of 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: planners for them as well. So there we go, But 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: what about the risk of people now feeling that they 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: can put up whatever they want, wherever they want on 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: their property, and we end out with a terrible cave 46 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: creek scenario. 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: You know, look, there's if you take an urban environments, 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 2: what we've done is we're in a strange sort of way. 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: We've gone back to where we used to have a 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: Town and Country Planning Act, way way way back, and 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: we've gone back to that. We've said, now an urban areas, 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: there's certain rules out on the countryside. There's a different 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: process fundamentally, that's how it goes. And if you take 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: the former, you have a volumetric control, you have a 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: box and we already have that. You know, you have 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: recession controls and height limits, and you go for it. 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: You know, build it, do it all right, brutals limited constraint. 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I gotta go Brice for more from early edition with 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge. 60 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.