WEBVTT - “Red Lights & Toilet Crimes”

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<v Speaker 1>Live from the Export Beer Garden Tour of Munich. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Agenda Podcast for whatever data is.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no idea. The Agenda Podcast Live from the

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<v Speaker 2>Export on Beer Garden Tour of Munich.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually we're not in Munich. We're in Amsterdam, fellas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, game day built up to the All Blacks game,

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<v Speaker 3>we thought we'd come to Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what better place than Amsterdam, and just just to

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<v Speaker 4>get the feel the vibe of that Bleaterslow Cup Test.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell you what. I've been wandering around this

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<v Speaker 4>morning on the streets and the people are absolutely vibing

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<v Speaker 4>it here. There is an amazing vibe in Amsterdam about

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<v Speaker 4>that Blitterzoe Cup test.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just last night we ran into a group of Welsh gentlemen, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>who'd come over for a four day long weekend. As

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Joy feverishly pulls a couple of beers out of

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge. Here, it's a nice called Export Ultra because

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<v Speaker 1>we've brought our own beers to the beer fest.

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<v Speaker 2>But I digress. Yeah, we're down in Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night, but a first night fever, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>Welsh gentlemen pulled up next to us, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>chewing our ears off about the Orbles team. They love

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace the City, big fans of that, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the aura is gone from the Orbles. They

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<v Speaker 1>said that there's no fear anymore. Yeah, teams don't fear them.

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<v Speaker 1>How good would it be though, to just be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pop over here for four days?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so good? Just before we really get stuck into

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<v Speaker 4>some code analysis, Yeah, can I just say we your

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<v Speaker 4>first New Zealand is to ever bring New Zealand beer

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<v Speaker 4>to Holland?

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<v Speaker 3>Potentially is Has that ever happened before? I don't believe

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<v Speaker 3>it's a big export market for New Zealand. Ah No,

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<v Speaker 3>bringing beers into Holland, home of Heineken at home of Amstell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it's one of the very very few kind of

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<v Speaker 3>world first that we pointless world first that the ACC

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<v Speaker 3>is renowned for. But this is not the first time

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<v Speaker 3>we've done a rugby build up from Amsterdam, because you

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<v Speaker 3>remember in twenty fifteen the World Cup, we did the

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<v Speaker 3>entire build up from the streets of Amsterdam and got

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves in quite a bit of bother about that. Bringing

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<v Speaker 3>the official build up to the World Cup final from Amsterdam, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>dangerously wasted on truffles, which we just thought was a

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<v Speaker 3>mushroom risotto and found out later that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not a mushroom rosotto.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, it wasn't. And then last night we just revisited

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<v Speaker 4>some of those scenes which just embedded into my memory,

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<v Speaker 4>and it turns out that essentially we didn't move more

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<v Speaker 4>than about fifty meters, so all of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>I remember, the babies having their nappies changed in a

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<v Speaker 4>very strange castle in the middle of a roundabout you

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<v Speaker 4>wearing penis glasses, outside of a ship that was also

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<v Speaker 4>doubled as a bar that was rolling across the ocean,

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<v Speaker 4>a bridge where we attempted to do the first ever

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<v Speaker 4>flying wedge piece to camera, and a peep show where

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<v Speaker 4>we all ended up peeping on each other rather than

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<v Speaker 4>the actual sex act which was going on in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of us. It was all in the space of

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<v Speaker 4>about fifty meters on of course, the urinal, which we

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<v Speaker 4>sat in a bar and then commentated peace going in

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<v Speaker 4>and out of the urinal. It was nice to use

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<v Speaker 4>that urine last night, Actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And the urinals here are quite interesting because they're on

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<v Speaker 3>the footpath and it's basically a waist height aluminium grate

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<v Speaker 3>and you can still look over the top of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a grate on the ground. But what disturbed

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<v Speaker 3>me most because I used it as well. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was very handy. There was heaps of toilet paper. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that implies that potentially girls are coming and squatting there.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't don't as with this design for that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also something weird about making eye contact with strangers

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<v Speaker 1>while pissing out in the open. Yeah, out in public,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very very off putting. They are not in

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<v Speaker 1>great nick. I kind of thought they would be. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why we're in Europe. I was like, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be flash. They were not.

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<v Speaker 4>They were part urinal, part confessional. Did you notice that

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<v Speaker 4>the mish you could see through and I could see

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<v Speaker 4>people and people could see me, and it was like

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<v Speaker 4>you But obviously there was a piece of metal that

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<v Speaker 4>went around about nipple heights, so you couldn't see anything

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<v Speaker 4>below the nips, but I could see it on an

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<v Speaker 4>eye was eyeballing people as they were coming past. It

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<v Speaker 4>was quite quite high. Actually, oh, you enjoyed that? No,

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<v Speaker 4>I did. I found it. I found the smell absolutely disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like fifty million cats had urinated there over

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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably not far off.

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<v Speaker 4>It was pretty gross, but yeah, you're right. The why

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<v Speaker 4>would people put rubbish a toilet paper? That means that

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<v Speaker 4>girls have obviously used That's what I was implying.

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<v Speaker 3>But they've obviously bought their own toilet paper because there's

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<v Speaker 3>not a dispenser in there. It's just a hole you

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<v Speaker 3>urinate in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, although sometimes you get some weird guys who dabbed there. No, yeah, that, no,

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<v Speaker 4>they do. I had an ex girlfriend and her ex

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<v Speaker 4>her boyfriend, the guy that she was going out before me,

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<v Speaker 4>was a dab or toilet partner?

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<v Speaker 2>What is he? Did he have a did he have

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of bladder control issue?

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<v Speaker 4>Out with him? From like fifteen or sixteen? And so

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<v Speaker 4>when I didn't do that, she thought it was unusual.

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<v Speaker 4>She thought that all men did it. So she didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have any brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>You you don't because you need normally you give it

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<v Speaker 3>the pooh, and you give it the whip for the bullwhip,

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<v Speaker 3>and you give it the bull whip and you get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of most kind of excess.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well I never saw him do it, but I

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<v Speaker 4>was told dribbler. Yeah, obviously, but I mean I was

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<v Speaker 4>told that you just could get a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>toilet paper and just dab the end.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't look at you the same. Yeah, for extra safety.

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<v Speaker 4>What's wrong with you? You're disgusting your disgusting person.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to make sure, well, it can be a ruin,

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<v Speaker 1>a day ruiner if you do end up dribbling. You know, say,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, you've been cut short for some reason or

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<v Speaker 1>for it, or you're standing on a public street in Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to cut it short. Yeah, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>is a day ruiner. You know, it ruin you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And also when you get to my age, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>late forties, things don't tighten off as well as they

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<v Speaker 4>used to. You can turn the tap off, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's like you need to get a plumber and just

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<v Speaker 4>to just to put some of the washers sort of broken.

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<v Speaker 3>Or some plumbing tape just around the fred that's what

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not yet quite heavy snap flight over Fellas. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a long and arduous one, although you've been

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<v Speaker 1>comparing it to Chi Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because at the time it's I mean a lock,

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<v Speaker 3>not that I mean I've given birth to three children

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<v Speaker 3>so far, and not half as traumatic for me as

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<v Speaker 3>it was for my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>But you always go back, don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a horrific experience, But two days later you completely

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<v Speaker 3>forget about it. And as soon as we landed in

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<v Speaker 3>Dubai had a beers out there. I'd completely forgotten about

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<v Speaker 3>how traumatic that seventeen hours was.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was traumatic because they offered us a choice

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<v Speaker 1>of beef or chicken lane and I took the beef

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<v Speaker 1>and boy died.

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<v Speaker 2>It wrek havoc on our intestines.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, beef, beef by name and certainly beef by nature

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<v Speaker 3>because I had so much gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was out of control.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's fine for you, but I mean you were

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<v Speaker 4>probably enjoying the smell of your gas, whereas the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the cabin. Yeah, and I was one of the

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<v Speaker 4>members of the rest of the cabin were getting mouthfuls

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<v Speaker 4>of methane about every what five minutes at one stage.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you went off and destroyed a toilet. You

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<v Speaker 4>destroyed there were a number of toilets, and you destroyed it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then two penguins came in after you and they

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<v Speaker 4>were shocked. They were like, oh, it stinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I wasn't alone. I had a teammate, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I felt bad because Joe Jury was sitting next

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<v Speaker 1>to me in the aisle seat and I just was

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<v Speaker 1>like he was struggling to get to sleep. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm sorry, I have to climb over you

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the toilet because there is so much

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<v Speaker 1>gas building up in me.

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<v Speaker 2>The pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know how if you check in luggage,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes a pottle or something in your bed can explode

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<v Speaker 1>because of the pressure. That's how my stomach felt while

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting there. So and I went into the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom and it was just straight gas and just the

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<v Speaker 1>volume of it, the sheer amount just about lifting me

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<v Speaker 1>off the seat. But god, there is no better feeling

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<v Speaker 1>than farting away a stomach ache.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, the relief that was like lean It was

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<v Speaker 3>like popping a balloon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, slowly, when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can see it go down. There is nothing better than that.

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<v Speaker 4>But part of the definition of intelligence is when you

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<v Speaker 4>learn from your mistakes. I mean, that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>how humanity works. We all go through different things and

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<v Speaker 4>we learned you to generation. Interestingly, a sec hered g

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<v Speaker 4>laying over here he had the beef cheeks as you did,

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<v Speaker 4>Terminigh and Joe, as you have the beef checks as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I had the chicken. And by the way, the checken

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<v Speaker 4>was delicious and had the beef cheeks. It had a

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<v Speaker 4>terrible effect on your guts and therefore had a terrible

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<v Speaker 4>effect on the rest of the cabin and plane. But

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<v Speaker 4>then when we're on the next leg, the option of

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<v Speaker 4>food again was chicken, meatballs or beef strogen off. And

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<v Speaker 4>you've gone back for a beef strong enough. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not learning from your experience. Next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you were doing even worse futs. You'd gone beef on beef.

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<v Speaker 2>You asked you, you were teasing me.

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<v Speaker 3>You were taunting me. You're going dear to get the

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<v Speaker 3>beef again, to get the beef again. You were like

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<v Speaker 3>this little devil on my shoulder on the plane. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when she came and asked me, I just blurted

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<v Speaker 3>it beef and you're like yes.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, there's no way he's going to get the

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<v Speaker 4>beef again. It's like, no, he'll go the beef again.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no lesson learnt at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Had an abatoire going on in your guts, it's just terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course we had We also had ten great

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<v Speaker 3>New Zealanders with us on the flight. Hugh and Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>from Dean Yep, yeah, they were there. We had Andy

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<v Speaker 3>and Nick from Hastings yep. Actually from Birmingham. Birmingham by Birmingham.

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<v Speaker 3>James and Tom joined us, Callum and Phil Callum and

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<v Speaker 3>Callum and p and Mal as well on the trip,

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<v Speaker 3>all great New Zealanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they were just they was. It was surreal

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember we caught the coaching from the airport and

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<v Speaker 3>one of them I think was that Callum was just

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<v Speaker 3>pinching his mate.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, what are you doing? Just checking my head?

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<v Speaker 2>This doesn't make any sense, doesn't make anything.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in Amsterdam, it's twenty degrees, it's summer, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>European summer, and we got the day off today and

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<v Speaker 3>then we hit the Heineken factory tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but the big thing is where are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the rugby and how are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>watch the work?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when it's at seven in the morning, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>five thirty over in Sydney, So Zealand three thirty Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it day or night now here, Yeah, night where

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<v Speaker 1>we are right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Day this morning I'm just saying, at the sun by

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<v Speaker 1>the angle, it feels a lot like the daytime. It does,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it to me? Although it was like morning to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've lost all sense of time and directioned So seven

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<v Speaker 1>so three point thirty in Australia, which means five thirty

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<v Speaker 1>in New Zealand five forty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so then, which means seven thirty in the morning here. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not a bad time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I think it's where we find a place

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<v Speaker 3>open is and able to play.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where Nowhere always kind to play in

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<v Speaker 4>New Zealand and New Zealand playing Australia somewhere in No way.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna we might have to get everyone into this

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<v Speaker 3>room and just cast it onto the TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well we do have a TV that's about sixty

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<v Speaker 4>five feet wide and about thirty feet high, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it takes up half the roomless TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only ever seen a TV the big in our

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<v Speaker 1>studio back home. It's right as the size the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the TV in a studio. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>all it's got is free to ear TV, which I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching whenever i'm overseas. Last year when we went

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<v Speaker 1>to Paris, Heath and I watched so much daytime French

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<v Speaker 1>TV because there's just something weird about watching it. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand the language and it looks just like every

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<v Speaker 1>TV show. We've got New Zealand as well, the spital

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<v Speaker 1>of that. That's all we can watch on your seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five inches of TV. The hotel we're in is to

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<v Speaker 1>describe it, it's like three wedges of cheese placed on

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<v Speaker 1>top of each other at different angles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, three witches of gooda.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it looks like a building that belonged in Dubai

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<v Speaker 3>if i'm it's next to the big Motorway. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>very nice hotel, but it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>The big Mount Wellington and by Boys Car supermarket over

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<v Speaker 4>there and the big McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 3>It's had potentially one of the best buffet breakfasts I've

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<v Speaker 3>had a very long time, Say.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, how goods in the four when we arrived, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a help yourself honesty system with a cafeteria you

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<v Speaker 4>just sort of help yourself. Here is wine, yeah, anything,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it's got a whole lot of lollies and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like help yourself picking max and don't even have

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<v Speaker 4>to pay for them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't test it out last night. We went down

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<v Speaker 2>and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Picked up a couple of beers at about two in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and I was looking at it and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how many times am I going to come

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<v Speaker 1>in here before I just try and snake them with

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<v Speaker 1>that b Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about last night because you needed to swipe

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<v Speaker 3>an over eighteen card which we didn't have, and I

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<v Speaker 3>thought about and for a split second, I just take them.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I said that, I said maybe they got cameras.

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<v Speaker 3>And I looked up and there was a camera right

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<v Speaker 3>above my head looking me straight in the eye.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'll wait for someone.

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<v Speaker 4>That's about the most inconvenient things so far I've experienced here,

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<v Speaker 4>because everything else here, nobody in Holland and the Netherlands,

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<v Speaker 4>everything is made easy for you. Yes, it's like, how

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<v Speaker 4>can we it's so everyone's so hospitable. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>the people in the hotel are so helpful. And someone

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<v Speaker 4>someone said at breakfast this morning that they said that

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<v Speaker 4>their coffee machine could do with a little bit a

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<v Speaker 4>few more coffee pods. Oh yeah, and as they just

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<v Speaker 4>sort of made a suggestion because apparently when they went

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<v Speaker 4>online or something, I said, how's everything going, any suggestions?

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<v Speaker 4>They said, maybe a few more coffee pods. Within five minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>someone from the hotel was up there and delivering coffee

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<v Speaker 4>pods into the into their hotel room.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's that's service.

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<v Speaker 4>How good is that?

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<v Speaker 3>They're also it's hot spitable as well, because it's very

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<v Speaker 3>good looking race. Oh yeah, very good looking race to Dutch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've got in our position as one of the

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<v Speaker 4>weages of cheese in this particular, well, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 4>in a transport hub in a funny sort of way.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got we've got a motorway, we've got tram lines,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got a train track, and we've got six bike lanes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>which meander their way underneath us. And as a result,

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<v Speaker 4>some of the breaths are fresh air. That just and

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<v Speaker 4>no helmets here, which is great, so you can really

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<v Speaker 4>see people's faces properly.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's there's something for the mums and the deads.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, because the dudes are.

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<v Speaker 1>Tall, athletic, well, the tallest average height in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, Holland Yeah, I think they're running around the

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<v Speaker 1>six three for an average height for a man, but

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are around the bloody six six is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the great thing about the way they boke obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the whole town is flat. It's all at sea level

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<v Speaker 1>or actually under sea level, isn't it, And so everyone's meandering,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's racing. I feel like if this was in

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand, it'd be some absolute wounded coming past you

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<v Speaker 1>a million miles an hour. But no one does that,

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<v Speaker 1>I presume because they don't want to get where they're

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<v Speaker 1>going and just be covered and sweat.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're just chilling.

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<v Speaker 3>And also they've got no helmets, they don't so they're

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<v Speaker 3>going up five kilometers an hour, just turtling along.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're also going to work, so they're all quite

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<v Speaker 2>well dressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Up and watching someone in full corporate attire on a bike,

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<v Speaker 3>fully made up, a woman in a dress, yes, fully

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<v Speaker 3>made up, make it ready to go riding one of

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<v Speaker 3>a bike where you're made to have good posture.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's it, and you sit up so you can

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<v Speaker 4>really see all of them, yeah, you know, which is

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<v Speaker 4>quite nice, rather than hunched over some handlebars low down

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<v Speaker 4>where you end up looking at someone's brow. This is like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>you get the full picture of the whole body. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>everything presents itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because people can putty laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>For Joe, you're you spent the first hour up against

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<v Speaker 3>the glass.

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<v Speaker 1>He did, he did, and then at a certain point

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<v Speaker 1>he became aware of himself standing in his underwear looking

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<v Speaker 1>out the window, full body length window. And we're only

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<v Speaker 1>on like the second floor, so we're like very very

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<v Speaker 1>close to these people's like, oh shit, they pulled the curd.

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<v Speaker 4>We pay money to be in this position to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to see what we've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was like the opening scene from A Succession

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<v Speaker 3>with guys up against the glass and smears smears himself

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<v Speaker 3>on the glass.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the plan from here?

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<v Speaker 1>We've got today as we're recording this, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything planned.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a free day.

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<v Speaker 3>The recovery day after that quite traumatic twenty six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we've decided to start our day off by

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<v Speaker 1>getting straight back into the beers.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look at seven o'clock in New Zealand at the

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<v Speaker 3>moment at night is so my by body is asking

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<v Speaker 3>for a beer and who am I to deny it?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we're going to go into town, have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an explore, maybe catch a train somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't really got a plan.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what we'd like to do is go to a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful Dutch village with a windmill. That's what I want

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<v Speaker 4>to do. I've never been to a Dutch village with

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<v Speaker 4>a windmill.

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<v Speaker 3>Put some fingers and some dikes. Yeah, okay, yeah, that'd

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<v Speaker 3>be good. Yeah yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there must be lots of villages like that

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<v Speaker 4>around the place. How hard is it. There's so many trains.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, they're so well connected.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the day after that, obviously you said before,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got the Heineken tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we're all blacks at seven thirty, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>Heineken we're getting a VIP tour of the heinekenfactory. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the Heineke confactory are putting on a canal boat

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<v Speaker 3>to bring us back with a full bar on it

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<v Speaker 3>in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>How good are the canal boats because you lie down

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<v Speaker 4>on these shays lounges and then the drinks get brought

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<v Speaker 4>to you and you just have the trees over the

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<v Speaker 4>top of you.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's no issues weatherwise on a canal boat because

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<v Speaker 3>you don't. You don't get hit by waves. There's no swell,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no no one's going over the side unless you're

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<v Speaker 3>massively wasted, which but must happen. Not great swimming, no,

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<v Speaker 3>not great swimen in the canals. But then after that,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we fly out very early the next day

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<v Speaker 3>because of course we hear for the bier fists, so

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<v Speaker 3>very early that next day we fly straight to Munich.

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<v Speaker 2>Worryingly early.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe our flight's at like agent or nine in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, which means, you know, we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>out there at about seven or eight, which means we

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<v Speaker 1>need to be up at about sex and I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't see that happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's eight o'clock in New Zealand time in the night,

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<v Speaker 4>so I think seven forty five, so we'll still be

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<v Speaker 4>on New Zealand time at that stage.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that in Germany?

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<v Speaker 4>Though? Now no same time as the same time. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a question for you. I was thinking yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>when I was looking at the canal. So obviously there

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<v Speaker 4>was a benefit to having canals back in the day

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<v Speaker 4>instead of roads, because you could get goods and freighting.

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<v Speaker 4>How was the freight like, were they sailing down the

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<v Speaker 4>canals or were they rowing down the canals.

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<v Speaker 3>Just big old barges I suppose, but I suppose they

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<v Speaker 3>had tow them on something.

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<v Speaker 4>But what about the Okay, there's barges, that's one thing,

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<v Speaker 4>But then what about if you were in an individual

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a boat, were you honest? Were you sailing

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<v Speaker 4>down there? Because I mean there might there's no wind

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<v Speaker 4>around here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're probably not rowing it because you wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>two rowboats each other.

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<v Speaker 4>In the sixteen hundreds, for example, what were they doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they there was a current. Yeah, they'll be flowing

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<v Speaker 2>in one direction.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they get to a lock and they get

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<v Speaker 3>to a lock and they drop it down so it flows.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you reckon all through the canals there's you can

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<v Speaker 4>you only go one way with the current. Wow, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't look like there's any current.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you've got a motus, you could go anywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>want to suppose, But back in the day, I'd imagine

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be mostly current.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is, I don't current.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a current, and those like.

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<v Speaker 2>The canals in England, there's currents. There's a current in

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<v Speaker 2>the canals in England. They're not lakes, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>more rivers.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have thought it's just kind of flat with nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe there is a current. I didn't think of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll find out today on a river there to be

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<v Speaker 2>a current.

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<v Speaker 4>Canals are current, yeah, and the way that the canals

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<v Speaker 4>are kind of all connected up, I don't know it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be gentle.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know that in certain parts they were sort

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<v Speaker 1>of horse drawn or bullock drawn. They'll just go along

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<v Speaker 1>the bank of your canal there and drag them.

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<v Speaker 4>That would make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And in some places underneath the bridge you can see

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<v Speaker 1>from years of wear from the ropes where they go,

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<v Speaker 1>like around a corner, it'll just drill a hole straight

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<v Speaker 1>through the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bridge just from the ropes there. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's answered your question.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no has maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Ropes, ropes and current all combining together. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's sales because you had to tack up when it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would make you takes you forever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, can you come over and visit me for

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<v Speaker 4>a To be honest, the wind's going the wrong direction

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<v Speaker 4>and they can't you bothered tacking into it. So let's

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<v Speaker 4>wait for a couple of days until the wind, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you've got a wind following a following sea the.

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<v Speaker 2>Next day with a favorable window.

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<v Speaker 4>Finisher up and go and see you.

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<v Speaker 1>So once we get to Germany, we've got another day

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<v Speaker 1>just to fizz around there. Have a look around Munich.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy some leaderhersion, buy some Leader hoses, which you actually

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<v Speaker 1>wore on the flight over.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, a terrible mistake. Terrible mustake. And breeze,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yeah, and you know, I get swamp

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<v Speaker 3>pass and long haul balls like more than seven hours,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not even long haul, and I start to really

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<v Speaker 3>swamp up with those Leader hoos on. It was this

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.920
<v Speaker 3>next level seals in the flavor and it's just thick leather.

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<v Speaker 3>So admittedly a fair way into that flight, I did

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<v Speaker 3>take them off because they were really.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying to dig in as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny when we got to the airport and

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<v Speaker 1>people were asking you about the Leader hose and you said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually we're off to october Fest, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>so excited about it. And they're like, oh great, so

0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we're are you flying And You're like, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do buy and then we're actually going to Answerdam for

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.520
<v Speaker 1>three days. And they're like, wait, so you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>the leader hos it on for a week, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what, leader Housing, do not translate and

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<v Speaker 4>do bai No, that does not breathe that leather. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the other part for you with that beef strogging

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<v Speaker 4>off and the other beef cheek is that the leader

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<v Speaker 4>housing hold on to gas, so it just ends up

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<v Speaker 4>all the all of the fibers in the in the leather,

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<v Speaker 4>just hold onto your gas. So you're walking around smelling

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<v Speaker 4>like a dead farting animal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should take a break in the second.

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<v Speaker 1>But just before we do, I've just caught my eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the mister Sam, the blazing mister Sam's it a

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<v Speaker 1>fragrance you picked up in Dubai?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I got. I got conned into buying a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of fragrances actually by one of the best salespeople I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever met in my life. This guy really newer stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've ended up with the blazing mister Sam and

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<v Speaker 4>a Gucci something about autumn flowers or something good. You

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<v Speaker 4>never I don't even know if I like them.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottles great though, it's got like a it's got

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<v Speaker 2>like a six panther on top of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, was that a ball? But each one was quite different.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that one's I mean, I like the bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>You got back onto the plane in Dubai covered from

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<v Speaker 1>head to toe and about a million different fragmances.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that guy who was the salesperson was spraying

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<v Speaker 4>it all over me and then he went wrist, right hand, wrist,

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<v Speaker 4>left hand, forearm, left forearm, right under the forearm, left

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<v Speaker 4>under the forearm, right. Then I presented my left butt cheek.

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<v Speaker 4>He sprayed my left butt cheek, right butt cheek, and

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<v Speaker 4>then onto the balls. Yeah, was the final place that

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<v Speaker 4>I was smelling it from. And I can tell you

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<v Speaker 4>but mister Sam smells quite different on a long haul ball.

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<v Speaker 4>It really really adds to the aroma. It's a completely

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<v Speaker 4>different smell. He said. He never smelled anything like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I never smelled anything like it.

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<v Speaker 1>You were saying, the only part of you that hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>been sprayed was the tippy a penis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could have dabbed it down like Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>And I won't be falling for that trick again. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk

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<v Speaker 1>maybe about some sport the black Caps are playing at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. What's the time difference, and because it started

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<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock in New Zealand time, which is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of seven eight pm no am our time. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>that in Sri Lanka. It'll be a different time altogether,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, eleven am is this that time which I've lost track?

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<v Speaker 2>Butt?

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.160
<v Speaker 1>And then don't forget they're also taking a day off

0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:17.439
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday so that they can.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote yes so to oh yeah that tomorrow they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have ptay off. I mean, the game is still going. Unfortunately,

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Zealand bowled out for three hundred and forty. They had

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Sri Lanka almost by the short and curleys when we're

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 3>about we were to eighty for five, but he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to collapse at the end there, and only got a

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<v Speaker 3>lead of thirty five, which has been wiped off. Now

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Sri Lanka is seventy eight for one, so that lead

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<v Speaker 3>is gone. What gives me, what gives my long haul

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<v Speaker 3>balls a little bit of pain, is the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to have to bat last on a pitch

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 3>and they've got five spinners.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they know how to bowl on those pitchures too.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's been the problem so far, is

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<v Speaker 4>that our spinners because you just don't get to bowl

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<v Speaker 4>on pictures like that. You don't know how to you

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<v Speaker 4>don't know how to build pressure, and I reckon when

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<v Speaker 4>spinners start taking wickets, you get a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>roll on. And if you're a new batsman and you're

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<v Speaker 4>coming in to spin on a turning wicket, it's almost

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 4>the hardest thing to do because how do you score runs?

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, you're actually trying not to get out

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, but then you've got to find scoring

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 4>options and if they're accurate and they just keep bowling

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 4>in the same place, you've got to take risks to score.

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<v Speaker 2>Your frustration builds.

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Is that webbling spinner's got all their wickets? Silver got two,

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Mendy's got three and jays Area got four.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I see a rook when? All right?

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he got a five fer? So big willow Rook punishing,

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 3>good looking? Well, I rock another five wicket bag for him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's having a fucking great start to his Test career.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he really is. He's I think he's a big

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 4>unit And when I watch him bowl, if you're if

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 4>you're facing a guy like that, it's weird because when

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 4>you're watching on TV, you don't really think about it

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 4>this way, but if you're actually facing a guy who's

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<v Speaker 4>a big, broad shouldered unit who runs at you quite hard,

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 4>it's quite intimidating. Yeah, and he's he runs in hard

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 4>and he comes and he really tries to hit the

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 4>wicket and it actually has a big effect on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Is even as an international batsman that I reckon he

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<v Speaker 4>was a heavy ball.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that he's our biggest strike weapon in Sri

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Lanka is a little bit concerning. He's got the only

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 3>wicket in the second innings as well, when all the

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 3>wickets were taken by the Sri Lankan spinners, and we're

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 3>relying on the punishing a raw to come thundering in

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 3>and take his wickets with which has to be wicket

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<v Speaker 3>taking deliveries on a pitch like that, it's not seeming

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<v Speaker 3>around a great deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we asked Kyle Mills this, but do you

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<v Speaker 1>think we'd ever be able to produce some good spinners

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<v Speaker 1>here in New Zealand?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we were saying it's the pictures, right, they are

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<v Speaker 1>too green, But he was also saying that the fields

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>themselves are too small, and so if you're a spinner.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't be afforded the you know, the leeway to

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<v Speaker 1>get tonked a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the perfect storm if you're a spinner in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only do the pictures not turn, yeah, they don't deteriorate,

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:58.239
<v Speaker 4>although last summer they did well. Bouncers right, yeah, so

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.120
<v Speaker 4>you do get one pictures that bound. You know, spinners

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 4>love bounce, but but it doesn't break up. So you

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 4>never get to bowl on those particular conditions. And it's different.

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 4>I reckon bowling spin in that situation is different. So

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 4>it's a perfect storm of the pitchers aren't right. The

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 4>fields are small, so growing up in New Zealand there's

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<v Speaker 4>no I mean, bowling spin in New Zealand's tough, yeah,

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.479
<v Speaker 4>because he get you get tonked and so you give up.

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And then your coach says, hey, just knocked that shit

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>on the head, military medium, what are you doing?

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 4>Try to swing the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Gavin Larsen, Willie Watson, a huge successes. Just just

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>do what they did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, it's no surprise and it gets sorry, no,

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:38.719
<v Speaker 4>it's no surprise that we were you know, apart from

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Dan Vittry, we've never produced a world class spinner.

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 2>No, no, and even then he wasn't a prolific turner

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 2>of the ball. He was just deadly accurate.

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, as armball was is probably one of his biggest weapons,

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 3>which is the one that doesn't turn.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 4>But he also amazing at predicting what batsmen we're going

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 4>to do. Knew the psychology of what was going on

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 4>and then could just workout of batsman so quickly with

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 4>different variations of pace and flight and all that sort

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 4>of stuff, which is clever.

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 3>And in the second inning, sorry that just to go

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 3>back to the actual sport of the game. Interesting, Tim

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Southy came on his third change in the bowling. So

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 3>will I Rourke opened the bowling with AJ's battel first change,

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Mitchell Satner, second change, Tim Southy.

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And this is this is the problem, because now all

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you've got Ages starting hasn't played for

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the Black Caps, and Ages and Ages, and then all

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you're asking him to open. You know,

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the this is the hard part. The other

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>thing is growing up in New Zealand, you if you've

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>got a funky delivery, that'll get coached out of you

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>straight away. Whereas in the India and Sri Lanka and stuff.

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>They'll find malinga bowling round arm or some frog and

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a blender dude out of Bangalore.

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Coming in from the frog and the original prog and

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 2>the blend.

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Bowling of his face to the skies and he's already

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>appealing for the umpire his hand.

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 4>You get a guy, you know, speaking of wed actions,

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 4>You give a guy like Boomra who stutters his way

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 4>in and then just off about six paces and then

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 4>just whips it down last second. Yeah, you get You

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 4>get some good freaks going on.

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Bomber could bowl that delivery and Twilight Crocket in any

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>ground because he comes off the six paces, yeah, and

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>generates about one hundred and fifty clocks off it and

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the bounce and does he bowl off the wrong foot

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>or is that an optical illusion?

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 4>I think it goes off the right foot. But his

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 4>arm almost comes over the back of his head, and

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 4>so his point of delivery is so high. And then

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 4>he's got this wrist action that's super loose.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 2>He looks like he's going to hyper extend his knee

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and his delivery stride.

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he does. He slams that front foot down.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So how do how do we think this one's

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 2>going to shape out their lane?

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be, well, we've got tomorrow's the rest day.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 3>I hope that they do what they did in the

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 3>back in the day on rest days, which was just

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 3>get absolutely leathered with the opposition and then spin Saturday

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 3>had just hung over, and then get back to their

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 3>work day later.

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 4>So the reason that they're doing a wrist days because

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 4>they've got a vote there.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Is a security issue. Okay, yeah, it's not around people

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 3>not wanting to vote. It's about the fact that they can't.

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 2>It's not just so that Kuzel Mendez can get to

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 2>the polls.

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 3>No, it's a it's a security thing that they do

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 3>that in India quite a lot. They basically they plan

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 3>sports events around their elections because they can't guarantee the

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 3>safety of the of the stadium or the players because

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 3>all the resources go towards the election. So that's going

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 3>to be interesting. So day off, and I looks like

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand might need that day off at the moment

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>because s Jamaica going along nicely eighty four for one,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 3>so they lead by a forty nine now so that

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 3>they watch that creep up over two hundred anything, yeah,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 3>and so one hundred and fifty away and the New

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Zealand might be a ted of bother on day five.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 4>I reckon chasing anything more than two hundred will be

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 4>an insane challenge.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>The other issue is, as you said, they've got the

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>day off, it's in the New Zealand psyche to just

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 1>go helpful leather on that day off. I don't know

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that that's a Sri Lankan you know, tradition. But when

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we see a day off in the middle of something,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>we're doing it right now.

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Exactly thing. It's like the night before any public holiday.

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 3>It's just at like it's just for some reason we

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 3>lose our minds.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Their own goal specialists, absolutely absolute own goal special.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>As we sit here cracking a beer in the morning,

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>although again as you say, at o'clock at night now

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>in our body clock, we are here in Amsterdam to

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>catch a vibe for the for the bledder Slade, the

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>first match, and as you said at the top of

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, Jerry, the vibe is out there. It's think

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>it's heavy. People are talking about it. How do we

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>feel this game is going to go? Because I've seen

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of headlines this week and it felt like

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to con you into thinking this is

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be a tighter contest than I think it

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>actually will be. I think they'll get blown out the Wallabies.

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<v Speaker 4>I think so because they've been really really ordinary in

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 4>the Rugby Championship so far. I mean they've been awful.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 4>That game where they just completely blew out of our

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 4>second half, that was one of the worst halves of

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 4>rugby from in the international side in the history of rugby,

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 4>right up against Argentina against Argentina. So they are finding

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 4>insane ways to lose matches. But we can't finish the

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 4>end of a match, particularly well against the World champions

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 4>and a team a really really good finishing team. But

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 4>I would imagine that we'd wipe the floor of them.

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 4>But you never know, a.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Lot of pressure.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's pressure out to wipe them, not just win, Yeah,

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 3>wipe them out. So it's such a well, that's the

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 3>thing that, Yeah, it's such a new Zealand mentality. It's like,

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>don't we don't just need to beat Australiers, we need

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to humiliate them well, because.

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>If we win by three that all of the articles

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>will be like, wow, unconvincing, unconvincing.

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No one's talking about the unconvincing World Cup when

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 3>that's there. If you got last year by wagging one twin.

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but surely it's better for looking forward for the

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 4>next four years. It's better to be in this situation now. Yes,

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 4>this is a good sign, isn't it. Like in the past,

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 4>we've always hammered all sides for not doing well, and

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 4>then the sides that have done really, really well in

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 4>the interim years have never won World Cups.

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:50.719
<v Speaker 3>And we talked about this is that if you're going

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 3>to lose ten in a row, this, here's a year

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:53.479
<v Speaker 3>to do it.

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>This is when to do it.

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>But I would also say that despite that, Razor does

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously feel a bit of pressure to win every single game.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>He is the coach of the All Blacks. No one

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>wants to have a bad record as the coach of

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the All Blacks. So he's still pecking guys like Sam Kaine,

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact he knows he won't have him for

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the World Cup. Because you'd sort of look at it

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and go, all right, we've got four years till then,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>why don't we just start blooding a few new players.

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>But then the other side of the ledger is this

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>is an all black jersey. You can't just give these

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>away lightly because really outside of Setiti, who's he brought

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>in that?

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, Sam Deary, oh quite well, Tyree.

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 4>Lomas isn't brought in, but he's played. I thought he's

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 4>played particularly well. I thought our Type five has been

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 4>pretty good and tremendous. Yeah, I reckon they've been good.

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 4>Front row has been really good.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Scrummage scrumming has been great.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Lineouts off hot and cold, yeah, yeah, yeah, Actually the

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 3>problem has just been we've played pretty well in patches.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 4>We played well against every guy. I thought both those

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 4>tests we actually played better than them, but we just

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't get the result. We haven't been getting the result.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 4>We used to know how to win ugly, yeah, and

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 4>now South Africa know how to win ugly.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's actually yeah. That was actually the hallmark of

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the Crusaders for the last few years with Razer at

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the Helm, was like they looked at the rules set

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>and said, right, these are what the rules are. This

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is how we're going to play rugby. Whereas I feel

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like for Ages New Zealand's been like, oh, we have

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>this idea of how rugby should be played, and we're

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>going to play it like that, but it doesn't seem

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>to have translated to the All blacks.

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Nowser and I've got a theorist while boring our theory,

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 4>but I reckon when you look to try and speed

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 4>pay test rugby at pace, you can't. If you do,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 4>you have to make zero mistakes. So every single time

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 4>you cannot drop a ball, you can't. You've got to

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 4>throw the ball into the lineout. You can't get any

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 4>lineouts wrong. You can't get anything wrong if you genuinely

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 4>want to play the ball at pace, because as soon

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 4>as you make a mistake, so you knock a ball on,

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 4>they will just slow the game down completely. And then

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 4>you get frustrated, and then you think we are trying

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 4>to do this and we're not doing We're not achieving

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 4>what we want, and that psychologically has a huge effect

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 4>on the team. So much easier to slow test rugby

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 4>down than it is to speed it up, and we've

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:56.959
<v Speaker 4>been trying to speed up. I'm not sure you can

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 4>play like that anymore.

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Because we took it upon ourselves, though I felt like

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 3>took it upon themselves to remarket the game as a

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 3>free flowing champagne rugby.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like retaliation for the Johnny Wilkinson area.

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and drop goals and man rugby. We're like, no, no,

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 3>this is how you play it. We do a lot

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 3>of that.

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 4>We also do it in other aspects of New Zealand

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 4>thing where we want to be the best in the

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 4>world at like green things as well. We want to

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 4>be the best at Greenhouse. Guess mission. Yes, I had

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 4>no effect on the world, but we want to be

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 4>the leader in the world and that sort of stuff.

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 4>We want to be the front of the class with

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>our hands up, teacher's pitt. That's our vibe.

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>But I do think we're going to hunt them this week,

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's exactly what the all decks need.

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Get them back on track, get that winning feeling back

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>into the changing rooms, and yeah, I think we're going

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to hunt them. So let's say quick break when we

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>come back. We have been through a lot of edmund

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to try and put a punt on this morning.

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>We'll walk you through. So we are here in Amsterdam.

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 2>What's the name of the hotel? Now? Yeah?

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 5>The hotel now, yeah, I believe it is h now

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 5>or something in how in how in how anyway, we

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 5>are on Amsterdam, and for those of you degenerates out

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 5>there that have been abroad recently, you will know that

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 5>most gambling apps are geo blocked, so you can't bit

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, from abroad. So we've been through about an

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 5>hour's worth of Edmund this morning to try and get

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 5>into the tab account because at the time we're recording this,

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 5>it's actually a Friday night in New Zealand, so you've

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 5>run back home. We're ringing to try and get these

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 5>bits placed on for us and we're not capable at

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 5>the pub blacked out drunk somewhere.

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>They're on a bus, gone home.

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 3>But I think eventually we managed to yeah track down

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Mash Mash Yeah. Well ironically it was the only sober

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 3>when we got hold of so I'm sure what's going

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 3>on there wrong.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, is he sick, something's from there?

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I got hold of Ham, so we've placed our hunch.

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 3>And because we didn't have the app, I couldn't see

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 3>the odds, so I just went for my hunch, as will.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Jordan'll score a try at least anytime try scorer all

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 3>Blacks are win by thirteen plus and all Blacks were

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 3>winning out halftime, so I just multied that together and

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 3>then he's placed the bit and sent it to me going,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 3>this is this is soft from you.

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Two because it's only paying two eighty six six.

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I didn't know the odds, so yeah, apologies,

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 3>but that is my dad.

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 4>That's a good to eighty six real it is. Yeah,

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 4>you got to.

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Say no, and this is a good This is how

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I like to place my punts. As well as you

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>think about what you think is actually gonna happen, yeah,

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>then put it into the app because now on the

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.760
<v Speaker 1>new tab app you can put you can compile anything

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>that you can think of. You can make a bed

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>out of that, and then you have a look and

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>see if the numbers correlate to where you had it

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in your head. You know, punting on the blind is

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>actually a good way to get a good vibe check

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>on how you think it's actually gonna go, because sometimes

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you can get luid into like, oh shit, that's been

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>eight dollars fifty.

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Totally do that as well, yeah, because it's not going

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to happen.

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 3>And actually Manas has come back with actually a good

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 3>little multi that's already severe. Anytime tryscorer Caleb Clark first,

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 3>second or third try scorer and overs forty six and

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 3>a half and that's paying total points. Yeah, and that's

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>paying fourteen bucks.

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 4>That's pretty good.

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Because as his.

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Theory on that is Artie will play eighty minutes, Caleb

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Clark will place at least sixty minutes, so he's in

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 3>the conversation for first, second, or third.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pay us paint fourteen.

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 4>So I like that. I like that good work from Mesh.

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Generally, if there's a blowout, it's just try score of bingo.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>You take the overs if it's going to be a blowout,

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and then you just have a stab at three two

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>or three try scorers.

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 3>So what was the overs forty six total points over

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 3>forty six and a half time?

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Twenty three? Oh my god, I mean I don't need

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 4>to be twenty three? All Yeah, that's that's good. Bet.

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 2>We might do that by us bet that's a great bet.

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So can we do it?

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Or we've done it?

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I have done it? Yeah, I did it. To the admin.

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Getting that bet on was actually longer than this podcast was.

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, the sun is beaming here in Amsterdam. We're

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>going to venture out and see if we can find

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>ourselves a bit of mischief. We'll be back at some

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>point in the next few days.

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I think we're going to do the first ever a

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>gender podcast alive from the Heide Confectory.

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Power from that because I've got a rooftop bar yet

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 2>they've got. It's like, yeah, it's amazing.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. My feeling is a lot is going to happen

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 4>from when this podcast finishes to when we do the

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 4>next one.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>It would be quite a trip to listen to them

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>back to back.

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Can imagine twelve hours.

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go and make it happen. We will

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>see you guys tomorrow for another episode of the Gender Podcast.

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