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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed

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Speaker 2: to intrigue and use Togsdad.

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Speaker 3: running out of ghas the Ird Commissioner on chasing money Oden,

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold Murray Old's day Tony up as well asking

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Friday morning, seven past six. So I've struggled

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Speaker 3: with a couple of authors this week, Jacinda Adern and

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Speaker 3: Jake Tapper. What I struggle with is one of them

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Speaker 3: is making money out of the fact they made an

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Speaker 3: astonishing hash of their job, quit and bailed out of

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Speaker 3: the country, and are now collecting the day for retelling

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Speaker 3: what happened in a way that would suggest no carnage

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Speaker 3: was left behind. The other is making money by exposing

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Speaker 3: what he watched unfold in front of his eyes for

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Speaker 3: four years and really did nothing about. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: who the bigger fraud is. The Odern book is widely

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Speaker 3: traversed and has been marketed very well internationally. Cadie showed

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Speaker 3: me a snippet from Oprah this week on social media.

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Speaker 3: Let's be frank, Postwary watches in a zempic, not exactly

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Speaker 3: reputationally untouched herself, whose fascination with Adern appears to be

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Speaker 3: around kindness. I bet you anything you want. Oprah doesn't

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Speaker 3: have the slightest idea about how the country was wrecked

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Speaker 3: under a dern. She sees what Adirne wants you to see, fragile,

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Speaker 3: huggy people who run things on good vibes. Meantime, at CNN,

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Speaker 3: I got no idea what Jake Tapper was watching between

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, because we all watch

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Speaker 3: the same thing, except CNN wasn't spending a lot of

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Speaker 3: time saying, hey, have you noticed the old guy's getting

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Speaker 3: worse by the day. Given that was CNN's job, is

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Speaker 3: it any wonder they rate the way they do. But

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Speaker 3: for Tappa to then go out and monetize what he

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Speaker 3: was already allegedly being paid to do seems a new

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Speaker 3: low of sorts to me. But back to Adern. In

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Speaker 3: one review, David Cunliff, former Labor Party leader, runs the

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Speaker 3: classic line I have a different recollection. This is in

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Speaker 3: response to Aderne's attack on him, whereby she essentially calls

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Speaker 3: him a fraud and how she couldn't understand how he

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Speaker 3: got the top job and not her mate grunt. You

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Speaker 3: had to, she said, probably in tears, question his authenticity.

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Speaker 3: Are you serious? Authenticity, Jacinda Markle. The only bit of

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Speaker 3: marketing that seems to have been missed, along with the

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Speaker 3: handwringing interviews on Radio New Zealand and TV and Z

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Speaker 3: this week, is some of Dern jam. If she had

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Speaker 3: just been useless, it might have been all right, hopeless

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Speaker 3: but didn't break the china. But she wasn't. She was dangerous.

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Speaker 3: She was the pulpit of truth. She was a control freak.

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Speaker 3: She was a narcissist, dressed up in Kates Sylvester pretending

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Speaker 3: she wrote back to all the kids. She wrecked the

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Speaker 3: joint and then collected the dough. In Boston, Tappa and

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Speaker 3: Adern making money for failing to do their job. There

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Speaker 3: should be a law against it.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Good Like from Germany. He popped in for a yellow

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Speaker 3: chair session with Donald Washington.

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Speaker 4: We are having so much in common our history. We

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Speaker 4: owe the Americans a lot. We will never forget about that.

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Speaker 4: And so with your German provenance, I think this is

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Speaker 4: a very good basis for close cooperation between America.

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Speaker 3: And donok Coles has been busy last night. He just

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Speaker 3: down the hall in the office. He was busy chicking

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Speaker 3: Elon chedules.

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Speaker 5: Foreign nationals who are not properly vetted, as well as

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Speaker 5: those who come here as temporary visitors and overstay their visas.

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Speaker 6: We don't want them.

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Speaker 5: We will not allow people to enter our country who

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Speaker 5: wish to do us harm.

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Speaker 3: But back to today, we're a couple of things. Go

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Speaker 3: to ten Jamal, the gym and blug just well basically

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Speaker 3: looked on one was the spry from Elon. I have

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Speaker 3: a big, beautiful bill.

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Speaker 5: Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than

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Speaker 5: almost anybody sitting here, better than you people. He knew

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Speaker 5: everything about it. He had no problem with it. All

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Speaker 5: of a sudden he had a problem. And he only

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Speaker 5: developed the problem when he found out that we're going

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Speaker 5: to have to cut the ev mint it because that's

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Speaker 3: Billions of dollars now Treasury Sicctorary Scott was in the room,

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Speaker 7: So what we've seen is we keep hearing from the

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Speaker 7: CBO that there's going to be a large deficit from

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Speaker 7: the bill, which we disagree with. But using the CBO scoring,

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Speaker 7: they came out and scored the terriff revenue. We think

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Speaker 3: Meantime, Pete Hicksith, who has been in Singapore this week

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Speaker 1: There are a few countries that are not quite there yet.

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Speaker 3: I won't name any names.

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Speaker 1: It's amongst friends in that room.

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Speaker 3: We'll get them there are. He's talking about the five percent.

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Speaker 3: The NATO secretary he seems on board with the five.

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Speaker 9: I have a cunning plan for that. And a cunning

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Speaker 9: plan is that And this is different from what you

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Speaker 9: did with the Welsh blatch that nations will commit to

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Speaker 9: yearly plans, showing the English each year to make sure

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Speaker 9: that you come to the new targets of five percent.

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Speaker 3: Yea, you call me when that happens. Finally, the original

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Speaker 3: burken bags up Rocken, not just Arth Burken, but James

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Speaker 3: Burke and the actual Burton the book and they talked

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Speaker 3: about on the plane all those years ago. If you

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Speaker 3: don't know the story, look it up. It's brilliant. It's

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Speaker 3: been on display in Paris, in Hong Kong, thousands of

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Speaker 3: people queue to see this thing. They got no idea

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Speaker 3: what it's going to go for, but it'll be a fortune.

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Speaker 3: Different by the way, from other Burkins. If you follow

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Speaker 3: the Burkens story, it's got JB to start branded on it.

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Speaker 3: The size, the straps are hard ware, the bottom starts

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Speaker 3: all unique to this particular bag. It'll sell next month

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Speaker 3: if you want a regular one. By the word, it's

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Speaker 3: about twenty grand. And basically you're going to buy a

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Speaker 3: whole lot of other stuff from them airs and then

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Speaker 3: world in ninety ECB European Central Bank, what have they

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Speaker 3: done overnight where they've cut the interest rates? Why because

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Speaker 3: things aren't moving eighth time and over a year gone

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Speaker 3: from two point twenty five down to two. Inflation's ease,

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Speaker 3: but they got all this uncertainty, all this tariffs and

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Speaker 3: whatever growth this seeing is probably going to slow. Twelve

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Speaker 3: past six.

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Speaker 3: New numbers out overnight. Not surprisingly, the US deficit on

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Speaker 3: global trading tumbled. Imports fell off a cliff, fell sixteen

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Speaker 3: point three percent. And that's what happens when you do

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Speaker 3: what Trump is doing at the moment. The world doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to trade with you anymore. Fifteen past six, right

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Speaker 3: from j my Wealth Andrew kellerher a very good morning,

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Speaker 3: Very good morning, Mike. Now building where I've done? Now,

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Speaker 3: this is not consent, which is different to swinging hammers.

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Speaker 3: This is swinging hammers. So what are we doing?

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Speaker 6: This is right?

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Speaker 10: And so we keep looking for the signs that the

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Speaker 10: economic mentum is turning, don't we, And long I suspect Mike,

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Speaker 10: the evidence is gonna it's going to end up being

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Speaker 10: an amalgam of various numbers, not sort of one shining light.

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Speaker 6: But nonetheless, to use.

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Speaker 10: A current cliche, we'll stay poking around amongst the weeds

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Speaker 10: looking for numbers until we see something. Now, yesterday, you're right,

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Speaker 10: stat's usually on release. This it's called building work put

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Speaker 10: in place. So it's the other side of building consents

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Speaker 10: is what actually gets done. And Mike, I'm asking the question,

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Speaker 10: spark because there could be. The trouble though with the

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Speaker 10: it's pre the sort of trump tar of Tornado. So

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Speaker 10: when we look at building activity in total, you combine

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Speaker 10: residential non residential building activity was flat, so seasonally adjust

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Speaker 10: to total building volume zero point zero percent. But it

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Speaker 10: gets interesting when you look at the breakdown. Non residential

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Speaker 10: looking week fell three point nine percent, but that was

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Speaker 10: offset by a move in residential construction and that could

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Speaker 10: the overall flat outcome was probably a little bit better

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Speaker 10: it to be a little bit down. But this lift

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Speaker 10: it's only one number, but could that be a start

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Speaker 10: of a shift? And I use my words quite deliberately

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Speaker 10: here because we can't call it a sustained lift yet,

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Speaker 10: but residential building hasn't registered left in quite a while.

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Speaker 10: This is the first quarterly rise since September twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 10: Now we're still massively below the peak in residential building.

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Speaker 10: And lots of people have left the industry. And let's

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Speaker 10: not diminish the importance of the three point nine percent

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Speaker 10: fall in non residential construction, which is concerning. But look,

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Speaker 10: has fallen. Inchestrate that's in place. So we're just waiting,

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Speaker 10: and it feels like we've been waiting for a while.

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Speaker 10: But this, maybe this is the spark. My only concerned

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Speaker 10: and hopefully those tariff tantrums haven't taken the wind out

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Speaker 10: little nascent recovery here.

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Speaker 10: I look, look, I'm not an expert in the gas

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Speaker 10: sector and production. And I think you just said you've

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Speaker 10: got you might've got Shane Jones coming on to talk

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Speaker 10: I think this topic needs more light shone on it,

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Speaker 10: because yesterday MB announced that it expects annual gas production

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Speaker 10: to four below one hundred pedigals by twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 10: The important thing here is we didn't think that would

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Speaker 10: twenty percent lower than last review. Field operators they've been

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Speaker 10: reducing their estimates of gas readily extractable in the ground.

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Speaker 10: The government is trying to address the supply issue. They've

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Speaker 10: set aside two hundred million dollars to co invest in

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Speaker 10: new gas fields so they can take a commercial stake

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Speaker 10: of up to fifteen percent in new gas fields. You've

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Speaker 10: also got your investment boost appreciation. But the problem we've

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Speaker 10: got here, Mike, is that we made decisions, or the

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Speaker 10: previous government made decisions several years ago, that we are

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Speaker 10: now paying the price off. And when you've got long

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Speaker 10: term infrastructure like this, you have to have a steady

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Speaker 10: you have to have a steady decision making process because

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Speaker 10: if you change directions, very hard to come back. I

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Speaker 10: think Heather last night had an industry experit warning of

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Speaker 10: an energy shock. We use gas as a pretty important

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Speaker 10: backup for peak demand electricity unsurprisingly.

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Speaker 3: I think you talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 10: It's very important. If the renewables don't show up, I

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Speaker 10: think low hydro lately level, so no gas. What do

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Speaker 10: we have to do. We have to bring on coal.

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Speaker 10: But we have a problem here. It's coming at as

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Speaker 3: very good news this morning on manufacturing. If you follow

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you're aware of what's happening at Harvard. They're

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Speaker 14: Morning my King, congrats on another award.

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Speaker 3: You're saying manufacturing New Zealand's booming. What drugs are you taking?

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Speaker 3: Eighteen to two, Husky, bring time that idiot who's running America,

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Speaker 3: TIMU and Shine business is down. This is for us

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Speaker 3: Daily active users on team has drop fifty two percent.

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Speaker 3: Who's the winner in that? So maybe he wants to

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Speaker 3: stick it to China. So you're saying, oh, look at

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Speaker 3: Tim who they're not doing business. So what about your

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Speaker 3: average American who wants to buy something, whether it comes

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Speaker 3: from China or not, and they're not doing it anymore

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Speaker 3: because they're going to get ping because he's dreamed up

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Speaker 3: some weird economic theory. More from Richard Shortley.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 3: B been a very good week for aviation in this country.

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Speaker 3: In New Zealand announced those three routes big planes or

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Speaker 3: bigger planes going on jet services around the country, so

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Speaker 3: that's good. In Singapore yesterday they're bringing back the A

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Speaker 3: three eighty over summer to Auckland Jan through March. You

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Speaker 3: can't get enough A three eighties. And if you've never

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Speaker 3: been on an A three eighty, get yourself on an

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Speaker 3: A three. So Imirates run the eight three eighty, and

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Speaker 3: of course Singapore run the eight three eighty, So that's

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Speaker 3: good news. So more services, more seats, more choice, more competition.

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Speaker 15: Six forty five International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 15: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold, morning's good So I was always going to

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Speaker 3: end in tears, wasn't it in one way? So I

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Speaker 3: wasn't think no, who would have predicted?

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Speaker 16: I mean, well, everyone would have predicted right this bruising

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Speaker 16: break up. In fact, everyone did, and now it's happening.

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Speaker 16: Without me, Trump would have lost the election, tweets Musk today.

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Speaker 16: He spent a course more than two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 16: million bucks US on the Trump reelection bid. Such ingratitude

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Speaker 16: rights Musk. This after President Trump laid into Elon during

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Speaker 16: an Oval office meeting today with Germany's new Chancellor Fredrich Metz.

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Speaker 16: After Musk tweeted kill the Bill, the budget plan that

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Speaker 16: Trump has made the centerpiece of his legislative efforts, Trump

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Speaker 16: was quiet for a couple of days. Well now he's

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Speaker 16: letting it rip. Trump posted on social media, I'm very

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Speaker 16: disappointed in Elon Musk. I've done a lot for him.

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Speaker 16: Trump then rolled out a series of attacks on Elon,

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Speaker 16: whom he says didn't have a problem with the so

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Speaker 16: called big beautiful Bill until he left the White House

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Speaker 16: just the other day.

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Speaker 5: Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know

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Speaker 5: well anymore. I was surprised.

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Speaker 16: Trump then gave a behind the scenes account of Mask

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Speaker 16: appearing at his White House farewell last week with a

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Speaker 16: black eye given to him. Your recall, according to Mask

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Speaker 16: by his four year old son named X a twelve

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Speaker 16: little X for short. When Elon says, he told his

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Speaker 16: child to punch him in the face and he did.

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Speaker 1: Let's review.

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Speaker 16: So his account of it.

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Speaker 5: Was a man who was very happy when he stood

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Speaker 5: behind the oval desk, and even with the black eye.

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Speaker 5: I said, you want a little mecup, We'll get you

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Speaker 5: a little mecca, but he said, no, I don't think so,

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Speaker 5: which is interesting.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's not an oval desk. It's rectangular, the resolute

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Speaker 16: desk named Oak from the British exploration ship of that name. Anyway,

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Speaker 16: Trump went on in respect of all of.

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Speaker 1: This, people leave my administration.

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Speaker 5: And they love us, and then at some point they

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Speaker 5: miss it so badly, and some of them embrace it,

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Speaker 5: and some of them actually become hostile.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it.

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Speaker 5: But we have it with others too. They leave and

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Speaker 5: they wake up in the morning and the glamour's gone.

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Speaker 5: The whole world is different, and they become hostile.

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Speaker 16: Trump derangements syndrome the American president and the world's rich

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Speaker 16: is man over splitting over the issues. Trump says Elon

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Speaker 16: Musk was teed off that they eliminated the EV electric

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Speaker 16: vehicle incentives from the budget bill and refuse to name

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Speaker 16: Elon's mate to head the NASA Space Agency. Musk crony

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Speaker 16: Jerrett Isaacman, a Democrat, fumes Trump, adding that he Trump

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Speaker 16: won the election and gets certain privileges in relation to

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Speaker 16: this stuff. Again, Musks is such ingratitude, leading the Daily

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Speaker 16: Show Company team to assess what Elon got for his

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Speaker 16: political contribution.

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Speaker 17: Let's review all that Elon Musk has gained from his

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Speaker 17: two hundred and eighty eight million dollar investment into this presidency.

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Speaker 17: One hundred million in NASA contracts, he got to freeze

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Speaker 17: forty federal investigations against his companies, fired anybody who could

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Speaker 17: regulate or tax him, and he got the President of

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Speaker 17: the United States to plug his car company. And Trump

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Speaker 17: almost pronounced its name correctly.

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Speaker 6: He love Tessler.

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Speaker 16: Muskenty Trump budget they discuss the abomination, says he is

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Speaker 16: only concerned about the country, not about money. Perish Ha

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Speaker 16: thought the budget plan still combines more than four trillion

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Speaker 16: in tax cunts and others spending with less than two

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Speaker 16: trillion in cuts to healthcare and food aid for the poor,

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Speaker 16: leaving a two point four trillion additional deficit blowout, say

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Speaker 16: the experts, on top of existing thirty six trillion US

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Speaker 16: national debt. How'd the phone call go with you, Well,

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Speaker 16: they say it was an excellent phone call. That's what

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Speaker 16: they say about pretty much every one of these things.

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Speaker 16: Busy time for Trump dealing with foreign leaders. He spoke

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Speaker 16: with she for about nineteen minutes on trade issues, was

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Speaker 16: their first director chit chat since the Trump tariff battles started.

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Speaker 16: The talks occurred at the Americans request. Trump then posted

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Speaker 16: that the Chinese leader is quote very tough and extremely

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Speaker 16: hard to make a deal with. The current US tariff

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Speaker 16: on Chinese goods is thirty percent down one hundred and

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Speaker 16: forty five percent.

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Speaker 18: Initially.

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Speaker 16: The two men agreed to visits in the future at

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Speaker 16: times not given. They've said they want to revive trade

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Speaker 16: talks after the US accused Beasing of violating their recent

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Speaker 16: Geneva agreements. Trump also spake with Russius Putin, who declared

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Speaker 16: he plans very strong retaliation against Ukraine for that attack

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Speaker 16: this week on the Russian planes the bombers. Trump then

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Speaker 16: compared the war to will fight between two little kids

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Speaker 16: who hate each other, saying sometimes you just have to

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Speaker 16: let them fight it out for time before they can

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Speaker 16: be peace. Asked about further US sanctions on Russia, Trump

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Speaker 16: again gave no timetable, but says he will know within

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Speaker 16: himself if and when it is time for a tougher

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Speaker 16: US policy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, grasshopper, OK, have a good one. We'll see you Monday.

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold State side Team to seven.

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Speaker 2: The light Hoskill break with the range Rover Villain news

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Speaker 2: togs had been I.

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Speaker 3: Told you this yesterday and Nintendo's flagship switched to It's

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Speaker 3: gone off special store openings around the world. There's a

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Speaker 3: shortage already in Japan. I think that's very apple. That's

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Speaker 3: what they do, isn't They make two of them and

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Speaker 3: then they say we've run out and they've sold out,

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Speaker 3: and everyone goes, oh, man, I want one of those. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: They expect to sell fifteen million. Has had a lot

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Speaker 3: pretty good. They've sold one hundred and fifty two of

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Speaker 3: the original switch.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 3: I did the numbers yesterday because the eight hundred bucks here,

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Speaker 3: they are four to fifty in America and at yesterday's

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Speaker 3: exchange rate I came to low sevens. So where's the extra?

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Speaker 3: Come on, where's the extra that's gouging? Probably could be

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Speaker 3: a levy.

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Speaker 6: Flooded.

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Speaker 3: It'll be the trucks at Auckland Port. So when it

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Speaker 3: arrives at Auckland Port and they got to put it

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Speaker 3: on a truck and it's on the wrong time, then

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Speaker 3: they got to add the extra. So by the time

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Speaker 3: it gets to Harvey Norman.

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Speaker 6: And then it might get rained on or.

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Speaker 3: Bit money is probably so. And of course the fact

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Speaker 3: that there was no power, I don't know that they

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Speaker 3: see something like that. Six away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the inns are the out.

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Speaker 2: It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of power, which we had this morning, Genesis

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Speaker 3: started work yesterday on their one hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 3: dollar grid scale battery. This is at Huntley, so Huntley

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Speaker 3: is increasingly important to earn the grid. Their thermal assets

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Speaker 3: can currently deliver between fifty thermal is that what we

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Speaker 3: call in coal now? Is it? Their coal can deliver

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Speaker 3: between fifteen and twenty percent of our total electricity. Fifteen

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Speaker 3: to twenty percent. Seems an awful lot to be reliant

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Speaker 3: on coal, doesn't it. It seems remarkable that we'd run

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Speaker 3: an economy on that amount of coal. But there you go.

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Speaker 3: You voted labor. Don't blame me. Fifty percent of you

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty. You all loved it. You couldn't get enough

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Speaker 3: of it fully operational. Later this year it's one hundred megs.

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Speaker 3: Is that a lot?

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Speaker 13: Not?

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Speaker 3: Really, to be honest, Basically that is two hours worth

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Speaker 3: of power for sixty thousand houses. Now it's a load spreader, basically,

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Speaker 3: is what they're looking to do. So in other words,

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Speaker 3: you won't get the spikes on the spot price. It

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Speaker 3: won't theoretically. What won't happen is what happened last year.

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Speaker 3: I hope. Anyway, big picture, multi stage project to develop

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Speaker 3: a battery system up to four hundred megs. So, in

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Speaker 3: other word, it's going to go from two hundred mexs

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Speaker 3: to four hundred megs. They're goin to double. They're going

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Speaker 3: to do that by twenty thirty five. It's all part

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Speaker 3: of the planet. This little bit that makes literally no sense.

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Speaker 3: I'm quoting the bloke from yesterday. It's all part of

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Speaker 3: the plan to have sixty percent of our total energy

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Speaker 3: coming from electricity. Electricity can't come from electricity because it's

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Speaker 3: already electricity. It makes no sense whatsoever. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know what they're trying to say. Here's where we're really

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Speaker 3: in trouble though, and I've tried to say this to you,

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Speaker 3: but no one's listening. So Meta signed a twenty year

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Speaker 3: agreement to buy nuclear power from Constellation Energy two days ago.

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Speaker 3: It's going to begin in twenty twenty seven. They'll purchase

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Speaker 3: one point one gigs, not megs gigs of power from

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Speaker 3: Constellation their Clinton Clean Energy Center in Illinois. Without that deal,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the plant was in danger of actually closing. Meantime,

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Speaker 3: Amazon has thrown ten billion at new data centers in

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Speaker 3: North Carolina. They need to drive so crypto data centers

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Speaker 3: AI all need massive, massive amounts of power. New Zealand

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Speaker 3: has expressly stated we want to be a hub, a

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Speaker 3: home for data centers, and yet t Y can't even

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Speaker 3: run their business properly because we don't have enough power.

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Speaker 3: We're building little batteries at Huntley that'll give us two

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Speaker 3: hours for sixty thousand houses and maybe two hours for

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty thousand houses if we build two batteries. Meantime,

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Speaker 3: the world's moving on and multi billion dollar deals being

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Speaker 3: done in areas that we should be involved in. But

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Speaker 3: oh no, we're not interested in any of that because

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Speaker 3: we've got another shipload of coal to come in, so

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Speaker 3: we can just keep the old factory chugging along. There's

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Speaker 3: something dangerously wrong with the way we are doing all

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Speaker 3: of this Maori Party speaking of problems due to Collins

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Speaker 3: on that for you shortly.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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Speaker 2: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 2: Way News, Togsdad be.

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Speaker 3: Well, seven past seven, so we got there. On the

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Speaker 3: end of the Parliament endorsed the Privileges Committee recommendation around

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Speaker 3: the Maori Party. Two of them are out for twenty

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Speaker 3: one days. Might be Clark who started it all as

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Speaker 3: out the seventier of the Privileges Committee due to the

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Speaker 3: Collins back. Well, that's very good morning to you, our

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Speaker 3: good morning Mike. What have you learned out of all

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Speaker 3: of this?

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Speaker 19: Well, I've learned that you should always stick to your principles,

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Speaker 19: and it's very clear that the committee was I would

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Speaker 19: have thought pretty much almost universally appalled by what we

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Speaker 19: saw in Parliament and the six months of hearings, including

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Speaker 19: three tempts to get the three MP's to turn up

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Speaker 19: and to answer questions and to explain themselves, that it

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Speaker 19: was actually worth it. And it's about time that Parliament

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Speaker 19: realized that the public of New Zealand are appalled by

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Speaker 19: some of the they've seen in Parliament, including interrupting the vote,

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Speaker 19: looking seeming to threaten other MPs. Are certainly to try

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Speaker 19: and influence them, and I thought that see the committee

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Speaker 19: stood its ground in the majority.

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Speaker 3: Indeed they did. It wasn't unanimous. Something was made at

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Speaker 3: that by the other side. Do they have a point

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Speaker 3: or not?

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Speaker 19: No, they don't. The factors is that during those hearings,

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Speaker 19: all the meetings that we had over six months, I

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Speaker 19: thought there was a very genuine concern about the behavior

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Speaker 19: on that day and the fact that we weren't able

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Speaker 19: to hear the other side because they didn't want to

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Speaker 19: turn up. And what they did want to do is

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Speaker 19: to write us letters telling us the way we should

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Speaker 19: be running the committee, including turning into some sort of

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Speaker 19: public forum to discuss Tekana, which of course is not

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Speaker 19: what it's there for. It. The other thing is that

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Speaker 19: hearing Wi a Packer make all sorts of validations yesterday

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Speaker 19: in Parliament which are wrong. This is not about the Harker,

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Speaker 19: It's not about that. It's about interrupting the vote, finger

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Speaker 19: pointing in terms of there's a gun movement at three

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Speaker 19: act MP's. And it's also the fact that none of

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Speaker 19: the protocols were respected in Parliament, and there are protocols

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Speaker 19: on the Mariah. There's protocols in Parliament, protocols in the churchs,

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Speaker 19: mosques and schools. Whatever we do, we've got to follow those.

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Speaker 3: Protocols, isn't it. I don't I can't work out whether

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Speaker 3: they want to get it or don't want to get it,

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Speaker 3: or do get it but just don't want to run it.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, in other words, I just don't take

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Speaker 3: them seriously. I just I'm so fed up and sick

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Speaker 3: of them. Well, I think they're not serious people.

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Speaker 13: Do that?

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Speaker 19: No, No, well they're not serious people. And Hannah, she's

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Speaker 19: only in the first term and very young, and obviously

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Speaker 19: we felt that she was very heavily influenced by the

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Speaker 19: co leaders who are now five years in parliament. They

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Speaker 19: know exactly what the rules are and they have been

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Speaker 19: They said that they did so, and it was clear

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Speaker 19: from what Hahnah said in public that she had been

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Speaker 19: has been arranged that Rawery Wayite would be the one

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Speaker 19: to tear up the build and started all off and

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Speaker 19: then they went and through it and hear it the

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Speaker 19: last minute. So do I feel she's been somewhat used?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do, just really quickly Haig Seth Singer poor

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Speaker 3: five percent defense China, Miles, all the stuff that you've

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Speaker 3: been dealing with in the last couple of days. Is

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Speaker 3: there something extra there that we don't know about as

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Speaker 3: regards China and attention in the world at the moment

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Speaker 3: or is that just because you all got together in

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Speaker 3: the room you expressed it.

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Speaker 19: No, it's very tough at the moment, and I think

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Speaker 19: people should be very realistic about It's what we saw

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Speaker 19: recently with the very heavily armed and capable task group

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Speaker 19: that came down from China, that is just that that's

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Speaker 19: nothing compared to what the sort of tensions that are

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Speaker 19: going on in the end of specific I think it's

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Speaker 19: really important though for everyone just to be very calm,

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Speaker 19: measured and not to get too carried away. But every

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Speaker 19: country that we dealt with in Singapore is putting more

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Speaker 19: into defense and is taking this situation very seriously. I

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Speaker 19: think it would be very foolish not too and we

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Speaker 19: are taking it seriously.

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Speaker 3: Well said, appreciate it very much, Defense Minister, due to

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Speaker 3: Collins also the head of the Privileges Committee. Of course,

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Speaker 3: eleven minutes past seven paskal as we've been discussing so

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Speaker 3: far this morning, as winter closes and we worry yet

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Speaker 3: again about whether the lights go on. So the news

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Speaker 3: the gas productions even worse than we thought. Production will

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Speaker 3: fall below one hundred peg of jewels next year. Previously

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Speaker 3: they thought that wouldn't happen till twenty twenty nine. Reserves

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Speaker 3: are down twenty seven percent compared with this time last year.

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Speaker 3: Resources Minister Shane Jones is with us. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Without re litigating history, you were part of that calamitous

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Speaker 3: collaboration that decided to stop looking for gas in the

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Speaker 3: first place. When you sat around the cabinet table and

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Speaker 3: mister Dern thought this was the future, Did you guys

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Speaker 3: honestly believe that the renewable story would somehow be so

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Speaker 3: far advanced that you could do what you did, or

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Speaker 3: were you making it up as you went along?

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Speaker 18: Well, I want to be very clear here. When Jasinda

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Speaker 18: and Megan Woods made that decision, that was a decision

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Speaker 18: as a captain's call, and a lot of backfilling happen

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Speaker 18: after that, and many respects. I have to take some responsibility.

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Speaker 18: I stood there and was at no time aware of

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Speaker 18: any paperwork reflecting the long term consequences. It was a

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Speaker 18: captain's call, reflective of the soft headed, vacuous nature of

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Speaker 18: Jacinda's entire leadership.

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Speaker 19: Styff.

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Speaker 3: So you haven't read a book, then.

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Speaker 18: There'll be a thousand things that happened before I'm put

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Speaker 18: in the ground, and reading that book will not be

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Speaker 18: one of them.

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Speaker 3: As far as solving our problem goes, the money you

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Speaker 3: put aside in the budget to take a stake in

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Speaker 3: whoever wants to go and explore? Is anyone going to explore?

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Speaker 3: Is that going to work? Do you think?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: I'm off to sing poor at the invitation of a

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Speaker 18: variety of people attending a large assembly next week where

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Speaker 18: the investors are getting together meeting with a couple of

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Speaker 18: people who have said informally that they're keen to come

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Speaker 18: and do several things, not only charge on and look

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Speaker 18: for new opportunities, but work with us to create an

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Speaker 18: import facility. Now it may sound contradictory, but we've got

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Speaker 18: to do something in the short term because I know

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Speaker 18: that it's going to take several years before we open

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Speaker 18: up new vistas. And indeed a number of people are

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Speaker 18: keen to come back and have a crackdown on the

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Speaker 18: South Island. But it's such a fundamental decision. I want

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Speaker 18: to make sure that I don't misrepresent anything on behalf

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Speaker 18: of our society or government. And if people make a

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Speaker 18: commitment that their investments are protected and they can never

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Speaker 18: be squandered by the return of unicorn kissing fairyhead ideas

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Speaker 18: that somehow New Zealand by closing down industry is going

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Speaker 18: to save the planet.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, all right, I appreciate it. Go well, shine

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Speaker 3: John's resources. I will check up next time we get

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Speaker 3: Simion on the program, I check up. Whereas LNG idea

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Speaker 3: was remember last winter when we went through that they

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Speaker 3: were going to start importing Ellen Jed and know what

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Speaker 3: happened to all of that. We've got some vaping issues

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Speaker 3: to deal with in just a moment as well. At

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Speaker 3: fourteen past the Like.

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Speaker 3: At b I'm going to talk to the IID Commissioner,

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Speaker 3: and I'm fascinated with the work they're doing at the moment.

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Speaker 3: They're collecting up there who bring up money owed to them,

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Speaker 3: like there's been no tomorrow, so we'll find out why.

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Speaker 3: And they made an announcement yesterday they're chasing people who

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Speaker 3: haven't paid their tax. So we'll get some more details

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Speaker 3: shortly meantime, seventeen past seven, This Mess and Vaping studying

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Speaker 3: the Medical Journal shows nearly sixty percent of the vape

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Speaker 3: juices incorrectly label the amount of nicotine, not the way

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Speaker 3: you would have thought, because the majority have significantly lists

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Speaker 3: nicotine than advertised. Senior research power at the University of Otago.

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Speaker 3: Study author Dude balls with us on this Dude Morning,

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Speaker 3: good morning, sort of good and ironic way or not.

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Speaker 20: Really, not really.

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Speaker 21: I mean consumers need to know that what's in the

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Speaker 21: box is what it sees on the label. So both

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Speaker 21: under and over reporting of nicotine a problemation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that part, but if you're not sucking

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Speaker 3: in as much nicotine, then you're not going to be

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Speaker 3: as addicted. Or does it not work that way?

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Speaker 21: Well, people who are using baits to try and quit smoking,

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Speaker 21: if the nicotine is too low, then it's not going

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Speaker 21: to satisfy their cravings.

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Speaker 20: They do it more, They.

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Speaker 21: Could do it more, or they could just go back

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Speaker 21: to smoking, which is not a good result.

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Speaker 3: The labeling. Is this deliberate or is the whole industry shonky?

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Speaker 19: As good question.

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Speaker 21: We don't know the reasons for this mislabeling problem, but

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Speaker 21: it is suggestive of widespread issues with manufacturing quality. You know,

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Speaker 21: New Zealand has detailed regulations about what can and can't

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Speaker 21: be in bake products. For example, there's upper limits about

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Speaker 21: how much arsenic, formaldehyde, lead, other heavy metals are allowed

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Speaker 21: in bates. So the fact that the nicotine levels are

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Speaker 21: way off it does raise concerns.

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Speaker 3: Does anyone check the stuff?

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Speaker 21: Yes, so this is where these results have come from,

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Speaker 21: their ESI testing results which have been done under contract

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Speaker 21: from the Ministry of the House.

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Speaker 3: And having discovered this, do they do anything about it?

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Speaker 21: Great question? So I think both the vape industry and

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Speaker 21: the regulator need to show that they're taking consumer safety seriously,

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Speaker 21: and there needs to be better communication about these results

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Speaker 21: and what's happening to try and fix the situation.

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Speaker 3: All right, next time we get the Minister of Health

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Speaker 3: and we'll ask about that. Jude appreciate it. Dr Juball,

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Speaker 3: who's the senior research fellow at the Otaga University. Elon's

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the meds or lack of

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Speaker 3: the meds, or the drugs or the ketamenea. What's going on.

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Speaker 3: Elon was wearing thin. This is Trump twenty minutes ago.

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Speaker 3: Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave. Elon's

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Speaker 3: come back saying, ask me to leave. It's a lie

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Speaker 3: because of course we could only work for one hundred

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Speaker 3: WI He's referring to him to one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: nice day, DJT. He was on the island. Giselle all

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Speaker 3: news and current events that is the equivalent of a

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Speaker 3: knighthood for general knowledge advancement. David Seymour seven in Britain

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Speaker 3: debating as we speak, but last weekend ascended to the

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Speaker 3: Deputy PM's job, gave an excellent speech about what can

872
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Speaker 3: be as in our country. What our country can be

873
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: was uplifting and uplifting is good. Chris Bership seven was

874
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Speaker 3: that the music Awards and expressed an opinion people of

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Speaker 3: the left and the Peter like opinions not as uplifting.

876
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Speaker 3: Mitch Barnett three pros get injured, yes, but a season

877
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Speaker 3: end or is a cruel blow, especially given the warrior

878
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Speaker 3: is seven against a good site that made a comeback

879
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Speaker 3: of sorts on another day in another season. It might

880
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Speaker 3: have ended differently, but it did because Gary Stead eight

881
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 3: a herb, a nice guy who took the team to

882
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Speaker 3: better places and you haven't always been able to say

883
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: that about cricket. Stephen Joyce seven not the decent bloke

884
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: who got a good job this week and what must

885
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Speaker 3: have been the most over hyped agm of modern New

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Speaker 3: Zealand business history, roade cones six. You use the hotline yet?

887
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Speaker 3: Are the way who raised crossing two? Wat wat because

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Speaker 3: it's bollocks, but at least it's on hold the why

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Speaker 3: catto chicane too? Wat wat because it's bollocks and was

890
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Speaker 3: enacted with no consultation and half a dozen winers. How

891
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: can winers get given so much attention? Polls? One joke

892
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Speaker 3: of the week Buy a dart board and pretend it

893
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Speaker 3: means something. Six million seven our population. That's the prediction

894
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Speaker 3: this week. Six million people by twenty forty. I like

895
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Speaker 3: more people. More people bring growth. I've always thought we're

896
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: way too small. The grocery commissioner is six. What honestly

897
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Speaker 3: does he do? I mean has taken him two years

898
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Speaker 3: to do a study and then put some stuff out

899
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Speaker 3: for consultation. I mean, as you cheese cheaper? The Chateau

900
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Speaker 3: three bowl? It is it nice? Not really? Not anymore.

901
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: You can't trade on memories. If it was a thing,

902
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Speaker 3: someone would have bought it, and they haven't. The Radio

903
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Speaker 3: Awards eight Yes, the industry's big night last night once again,

904
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Speaker 3: news talk Z'd be one, Neba one, Marcus one hither

905
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Speaker 3: one station of their fifth year in a row and

906
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Speaker 3: you can't argue with that. Proving hard work, consistency, professionalism

907
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: and patching over the week bits leads you to good places.

908
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Speaker 3: And that's the week copies on the website. And if

909
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Speaker 3: you print two of these, by the way, glue them

910
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: together and cut out six small slots at equal distances,

911
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: you can see the aurora better. Pasky Mike elling is

912
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: financially not viable. I don't think that's the point. I

913
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Speaker 3: think they're looking at options. I don't think anyone ever

914
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: argued it wasn't expensive to do. But when you're in

915
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Speaker 3: the sort of position we are, you've got to do

916
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Speaker 3: something about it. Mike, ask simme and what happened to

917
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Speaker 3: the fast track on the Northern Motorway to Fungarray seems

918
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: like lip service. Yeah, is a joke. I'm off, Simeon.

919
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: I was on that motorway for the first time last weekend.

920
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 3: Under the new speed limit. The space need limit, which

921
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: has gone from one hundred to one ten, is only

922
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Speaker 3: for about three hundred meters long. It's literally for about

923
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: three or four hundred meters long. It's the biggest joke

924
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Speaker 3: in the history of speed limit. So you go one hundred,

925
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Speaker 3: then you go one hundred and ten, then you go

926
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Speaker 3: one hundred, and then you go eighty. Then when you

927
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Speaker 3: come out of the tunnel, you go one hundred.

928
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Speaker 6: Well that's not good for fuel efficiency or environment.

929
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. But you're thinking. You're thinking, having gone

930
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: eighty and you're previously going one hundred and ten, you

931
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Speaker 3: go back to one hundred and ten. But you you

932
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Speaker 3: go to one hundred, So you go to one hundred

933
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Speaker 3: and ten. Some guy is going to be around the corner,

934
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Speaker 3: you know, the blue scoter is going to be around

935
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Speaker 3: the corner, and then they're going to pull you up

936
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Speaker 3: and then they're going to go aroundize it's one hundred,

937
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: and you go, well, no, it's not one hundred and ten.

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Speaker 6: Men, where something chased down by a scoter?

939
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Speaker 3: Couldn't it? Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. Saw a

940
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Speaker 3: guy the other day. So I'm tailing a cop and

941
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: I can see he's a cop because you've got a

942
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Speaker 3: blue scrot. Here's the clue, folks, it's blue Scota station

943
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Speaker 3: wagons with a couple of aerials out of the roof.

944
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Speaker 6: Yeah, count the aerials.

945
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Speaker 3: Watch the aerials. That's a cop. So I'm trailing the cop.

946
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Speaker 3: I think it's right. I'm not going to some dick

947
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Speaker 3: in an M two. He's got a new M two.

948
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Speaker 3: BMW comes up the inside lane, three lanes comes up

949
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Speaker 3: the inside. He's doing at least one hundred and twenty

950
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Speaker 3: five and I'm think you're a moron. Spot the blue

951
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 3: Skoda two areels blue Skoda. How hard is it? Mate?

952
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: Just top tips on the Hosking Breakfast. That's why were

953
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: reward winners. For goodness sake, the IRD are hoovering up

954
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: money that we owe them like never before. So something's happened,

955
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: something's changed at the IRD label. It's almost like they've

956
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: been told to get their act together and do good business.

957
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: So we'll have a look at this and see what's happening.

958
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: After the News your source of breaking news, challenging opinion

959
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: and honored facts. The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range

960
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Speaker 2: Rover Villa designed to intrigue and use Tod's.

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Speaker 3: Ed B Unfolding scandal. It's just occurred to me, unfolding scandal.

962
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: Will's just turned up. Will is the ZB boss was

963
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: with us last night at the Radio Awards. Jason, Who's

964
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: the big Boss? Not here normally Jason is here, so

965
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Speaker 3: it's normally Jason and Will come in, we have a

966
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Speaker 3: chat about it.

967
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Speaker 6: I assume that they flat together or something.

968
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Speaker 3: Well, I thought they lived together, but having a bicycle

969
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: built for two. No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't

970
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 3: have time to ask Will what had happened. But Jason's

971
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Speaker 3: not here. Jason comes to us with a reputation of

972
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Speaker 3: being really really heavy drinker. He claims he sort of

973
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Speaker 3: gave it up once he reached middle to senior management.

974
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Speaker 3: But he's not here. Interesting name. Do you know who

975
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: else is missing? Alders Alderson was there last night, not

976
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: here this morning?

977
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Speaker 13: No Jason.

978
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Speaker 6: Did they go off dancing with brad Olsen or something?

979
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Speaker 3: Yeah, joining some dots, headling twenty two minutes away from

980
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: eighty Your car now? The idea back in what appears

981
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Speaker 3: to be a considered effort to hoover up the money

982
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: we owe them. There's a crackdown on unpaid tax. The

983
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Speaker 3: budget handed them an extra thirty five million dollars a

984
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Speaker 3: year to boost the tax compliance and collection activities. The

985
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Speaker 3: IRD commissioner is Peter Mercy, and he is, well, there's

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Speaker 3: Peter morning to you.

987
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 20: Good morning mate.

988
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: I must congratulate you, generally speaking, because I haven't spoken

989
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: to you as far as I know ever, but you

990
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: seem to be collecting huge amounts of money at the moment,

991
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: and something's happened. What's happened?

992
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 20: Look, I think a couple of things. One is, about

993
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 20: ninety four percent of New Zealanders pay their tax in

994
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 20: full and on time, so we have a system that

995
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 20: works very well. It brings in the bulk of our tax.

996
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 20: But it's fair to say that through COVID we took less,

997
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 20: We took away our focus from some of our compliance activities,

998
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 20: and that was quite deliberate. As we came out of COVID,

999
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 20: so from the beginning of twenty three, we've started to

1000
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 20: put greater focus on our compliance activities right across the board,

1001
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 20: reminding people of their obligations, but actually doing a lot

1002
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 20: more audits and investigations and making sure that you know

1003
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Speaker 20: that we are there when they need us.

1004
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's a nice way. But were you under

1005
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: instruction to take it easy during COVID. Basically no.

1006
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 20: Look, I wasn't there at the time, but my understanding

1007
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 20: was that because of the economic uncertainty that existed at

1008
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 20: the time, it was very difficult to tell whether entities

1009
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Speaker 20: were in financial strife because of an unusual event and

1010
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 20: that they were fundamentally sound, or whether they were actually

1011
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 20: not viable. Now, our legislation requires us to maximize revenue

1012
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 20: over time, so if an entity is financially viable, we

1013
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 20: want to help them back to get back to being compliant.

1014
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 20: During that period, it was very difficult. So I think

1015
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 20: one of the consequences of that, though, is that as

1016
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 20: we started to ramp up compliance from the beginning of

1017
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 20: twenty twenty three, not only were we finding those businesses

1018
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 20: that during COVID, frankly you were not viable, but also

1019
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 20: you get the double whammy because then the economic situation

1020
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 20: at the time during twenty twenty three, twenty four, etc.

1021
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 20: You have other firms that get into trouble. So there

1022
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 20: was probably a bit of a backlog that built up

1023
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 20: during COVID, but I don't it was very hard to

1024
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 20: tell who was sustainable and who was not.

1025
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: There seems to be a technological leap in there somewhere.

1026
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: Am I correct in saying that you said and have

1027
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: got a new computer or something.

1028
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 20: Yes, well it's more than a new computer. We did

1029
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 20: what was called business transformation, so a one point two

1030
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 20: billion dollar change, which was more than just it. We

1031
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 20: completely redesigned the way in which we think about tax

1032
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 20: to try and make it a lot easier, a lot

1033
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 20: more automated. It does mean that we can make tax changes.

1034
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 20: For example, if the government makes, for example, investment boost,

1035
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 20: we can make that change much more quickly than we

1036
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 20: used to. But funderentity, it means that the computer and

1037
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 20: our systems are doing much more automatically than they used to.

1038
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 20: They can screen gest forms that come through, for example,

1039
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 20: and identify those that are unusual, so we have much

1040
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 20: better systems in place.

1041
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: Are you cracking down on the lay about students who

1042
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 3: have scarped and not paid what they are.

1043
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 20: Yes, we had a particular focus on overseas student loan

1044
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 20: borrowers last year. We've had a forty three percent increase

1045
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 20: in the amount of money we've received in the nine

1046
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 20: months this year as a result of that crackdown. And

1047
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 20: you look, we're actively continuing to pursue conversations with those people,

1048
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 20: many of them. Once we get in touch with them,

1049
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 20: we can set up repayment arrangements and so on. But

1050
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 20: look for those that deliberately choose not to make their payments.

1051
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 20: We have whole range of strategies including contacting them as

1052
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 20: they come back to New Zealand, and we do have

1053
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 20: the potential to arrest them at the border if necessary.

1054
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: Where are we at the bankruptcy business and in the cycle?

1055
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: In other words, are you seeing some sort of wig

1056
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: through the worst of this or we still got some

1057
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: ways to go in terms of people who are going

1058
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: to go to the war?

1059
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1060
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 20: Look, I think if you look at what's happening to

1061
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 20: the economy more generally, we are starting to come out

1062
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 20: of what they're of the recession, what you get from

1063
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 20: the liquidations and bankruptcy perspective is you do get a

1064
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 20: lag So I would expect to continue to see that

1065
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 20: increasing over the next six to twelve months, really as

1066
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 20: a lag out of that previous economic cycle. I also

1067
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Speaker 20: think because we are putting more effort and focus into

1068
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 20: that area, that has also listed the number of businesses

1069
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 20: that find themselves in that situation.

1070
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Speaker 3: Not that this is real, but let me ask it,

1071
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: because it's fun Friday anyway, If you could magic today

1072
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 3: all the money that's owed, and that's all the student debt,

1073
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: all the child support, particularly et cetera, how much is

1074
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: out there to be collected.

1075
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 20: Well, that's a really hard question to answer, so we

1076
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 20: don't really know the size of that gap. You know,

1077
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 20: we know that people are us around nine billion dollars.

1078
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 20: That's a lot of money. So even if everyone who

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Speaker 20: owed us money went through that process and paid it back,

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Speaker 20: that would be nine million dollars nine sorry, nine million

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Speaker 20: million dollars. So, yeah, there's a bit out there.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of money. Appreciate it very much. Peter Messey,

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Speaker 3: who is the he's the head of IRD, I must

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Speaker 3: say in my dealings with them in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of years, not that it matters that much, but I

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Speaker 3: for a while they've got refunds, and then that changed anyway,

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Speaker 3: so I don't get them anymore. But when it used

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Speaker 3: to be, when I got some refunds, they would take weeks,

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Speaker 3: if not months, to pay. So in other words, when

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Speaker 3: you owe them money, they give you a time and

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Speaker 3: a date and held pay if you don't do it.

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Speaker 3: When they owed you money all of a sudden, we'll

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Speaker 3: get around of it sometime. But that all changed and

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Speaker 3: they improved themselves, and I've had nothing but very pleasant

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Speaker 3: and useful legalings with the IID for a number of years,

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Speaker 3: which is good. I mean I pay far too much tax,

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Speaker 3: of course, but that's not their fault. That's the government.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen away from.

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Speaker 2: A the My Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: powered by the News talks at me.

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Speaker 3: I feel like talking about cars briefly. Very good piece

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Speaker 3: I think replicated in the Herald this week, came out

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Speaker 3: of the New York Times, and it's just a reminder

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Speaker 3: of you didn't know it's under the headline electric vehicles

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Speaker 3: died a century ago? Could that happen again? So if

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Speaker 3: you go back to the early nineteen hundreds, they did

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Speaker 3: have electric cars. And the problem with electric cars at

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Speaker 3: the time is they worked out that there were these

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Speaker 3: other cars that had a reasonably small tank at the

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Speaker 3: back end. If you fill with petrol, they'd go for miles,

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Speaker 3: and so refilling it with electricity seemed like a stupid idea.

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Speaker 3: And the irony is that one hundred and something years later,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that a lot's changed to be perfectly

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Speaker 3: frank with you, electric vehicle sales and the media is

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Speaker 3: still misrepresenting what's going on the market. Yesterday's headline electric

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Speaker 3: vehicles new Zealand market rebound strongly, but Tesla struggles to

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Speaker 3: catch the wave. That wasn't the story. The story was

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Speaker 3: yet again, virtually no evs were sold in this country.

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Speaker 3: That's the real story, not that it rebounded rebounded from

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Speaker 3: what the answer is, rebounded from nothing. Do you know

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Speaker 3: how many Kier EV fives were sold last month? Sixteen?

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Speaker 3: They're not selling any car. There are no evs being

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Speaker 3: sold in this country. They the EV market, the full

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Speaker 3: electric market total. Still, after all these years, after all

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Speaker 3: the hype, after all the noise, after all the press releases,

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Speaker 3: after all the headlines, the pure electric vehicle still only

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Speaker 3: makes up five point five percent of the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: vehicle fleep. Five point five ninety six percent of the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand ninety five percent of the New Zealand vehicle

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Speaker 3: market is not electric and will never be. And the

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Speaker 3: sooner they roll the white flag up the better. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's reasonably flat overall, which is the real story story

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Speaker 3: we should be talking about. We sold hundred and fifty one,

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Speaker 3: which is a little bit more than May of last year,

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Speaker 3: so things are up year to date though, fifty one

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Speaker 3: six hundred and twenty five, so fifty one thousand, six

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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty one vehicles in total, of which two

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Speaker 3: thousand were evs. It's a three percent decline on last year.

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Speaker 3: The usual suspects RAB for Ranger and high luxerre up

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Speaker 3: the top. What is exciting though, and this is and

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Speaker 3: I like this guy. He doesn't work there anymore, but

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Speaker 3: when he did, he got it. He was the CEO

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Speaker 3: of Stillantis, which are the company that make, among other things,

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Speaker 3: the Ram, the big ute truck. His name is Tim.

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Speaker 3: And they killed the V eight, the Hemi, and they said,

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Speaker 3: what we're going to do. We're going to take that

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Speaker 3: five point seven liter V eight Hemi and we're going

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Speaker 3: to make a little teeny winnie any V six And

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Speaker 3: no one who drives a Ram wants a V six,

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Speaker 3: They want a V eight. And so what they've been

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Speaker 3: now stovernight as they're bringing the Hemi back, and he says,

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Speaker 3: everyone makes mistakes, but how you handle them defines you.

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00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 3: Rams screwed up. When we drop the hemy we own

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Speaker 3: it and we fixed it. And so if you think

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Speaker 3: the ice engine is coming to an end, you're dreaming.

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Speaker 3: I was watching a video yesterday Mercedes Benz who are

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Speaker 3: having a lot of trouble selling things around the world

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Speaker 3: because they made a commitment to go EV have suddenly

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Speaker 3: you know, slammed the brakes on that and they go

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Speaker 3: EV's not the future. And they're putting out big cars

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Speaker 3: now with big V eights and turbo charging those V eights,

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Speaker 3: and they're still making V twelves. I was watching another

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Speaker 3: video the other day with V twelves, the Aston Martin Vanquish,

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Speaker 3: the duadeche Celendre, the Ferrari, the Ravelto all V twelves

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Speaker 3: and they're all sold out, and they're all worth hundreds

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Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars and they're all sold out because

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Speaker 3: the world has not moved with the idea logues, and

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Speaker 3: the idea logues thought of we made a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of rules and forced you into doing this then and

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Speaker 3: the next thing, the whole world will go, oh cool,

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00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: I'll do that. But we didn't and we aren't, and

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Speaker 3: you know what, we won't turn away from it.

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Speaker 2: The make Hosking Bread Best with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs.

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Speaker 3: The Seven Away from Mate, Super Rugby Playoff Time Crusaders

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Speaker 3: reads Tonight in christ Church Hurricanes are in Canberrall with

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Speaker 3: the Brumby's top of the table Chiefs hosts the Blues.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the chief CEO of Simon Grafis is with

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Speaker 3: a Simon Morning, Morda.

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Speaker 13: How are you, Mike.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well. Indeed you excited about the weekend, the

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Speaker 3: prospects and all of that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, very exciting. I mean, of this is your business

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 12: end of the season and you can always expect a

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Speaker 12: good game between the Blues and the Chiefs. And I

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Speaker 12: don't think yeah, I think tomorrow will be exactly the same.

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Speaker 3: What have the numbers been, like, crowd's, bottom line, all

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff for you.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think, you know, like like a lot

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Speaker 12: of a lot of a lot of the country commercially,

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Speaker 12: it's it has been pretty tough numbers. We get affected

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Speaker 12: to by weather and weather in the draw, so the

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Speaker 12: draw hasn't been great for us. With a couple of

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Speaker 12: Friday games and holiday weekends too make it a bit

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Speaker 12: tough on this part of the world. But certainly saw

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Speaker 12: really good crowds, really good crowd for Mina PACIFICA and

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Speaker 12: good numbers for this weekend, so it's really good.

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Speaker 3: And Molana Pacific has seemed to have enhanced the competition.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm wrong in saying that. If you

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Speaker 3: if you look at the competition, you want quality, an

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Speaker 3: inability to predict an outcome, and better teams. And I

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Speaker 3: think they provided some of that, haven't they?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely? And look I think you know the fans are

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 12: They've got good, good, good group of fans. We're competitive

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Speaker 12: in plays style, it's a little bit different. So I

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00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 12: think all of that added to the comp And you know,

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Speaker 12: they went so close to making the top six, which

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Speaker 12: is when you look at the teams that are in there,

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Speaker 12: it shows the quality of the side they are.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, the lucky loser thing, I mean, that's dumb.

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Speaker 3: Who thought of that?

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Speaker 12: I don't know, but I might have had that thought.

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Speaker 12: But now that on top we're top spot, I actually

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Speaker 12: think it's a brilliant concept.

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Speaker 13: You like it?

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Speaker 3: Who are you going to play in the final?

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Speaker 21: Thing? Oh?

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Speaker 12: Chief is it?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 12: Could could be anyway. You know, you look at the Hurricanes,

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00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 12: they're going, well, I think it's probably going.

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Speaker 3: To be a Crusaders or well, yeah.

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Speaker 12: Or Hurricanes. I think they're probably they're peaking quite nicely.

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Speaker 12: They get a win, that might be, that might be

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Speaker 12: a huge battle. Hopefully they get up for a win

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Speaker 12: maybe and be a good local derby between the Crusaders

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Speaker 12: and the Hurricanes next week. And the simmy would be

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Speaker 12: would be a good game.

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Speaker 3: A couple of quick things while I've got you this

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Speaker 3: World Cup competition though we're talking about recently. Are you

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Speaker 3: into that? Is that an idea? Would the Crusaders or

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs go to play in Northern Hemisphere teams? Would

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Speaker 3: that be a thing?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely. I mean the New Zealand New Zealand Super teams

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 12: have been on board right from the start for that.

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Speaker 12: But that's a great opportunity to take our teams and

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Speaker 12: brands globally and I think you know, that's a good

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Speaker 12: way to connect to everyone wonders how their team will

1240
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Speaker 12: go against the best in all of the hemisphere. So

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Speaker 12: I think as a concept it'll go really well. It's

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Speaker 12: just about setting the time frame, getting the time frames

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Speaker 12: right and making sure it works commercially. For taking fifty

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Speaker 12: people to the Northern Hemisphere is not cheap. But I

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Speaker 12: think it's a concept, brilliant, brilliant idea good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Simon, you go well this weekend. Nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Simon Grafis. When you say it's taking fifty people of

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Speaker 3: the Northern Hemisphere is not cheap, is correct? Because I

1249
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Speaker 3: looked at taking two people at the Northern Hemisphere and

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Speaker 3: that wasn't cheap either. It was so not cheap. We're

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Speaker 3: not going that's how that worked. We'll do the week

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Speaker 3: Murray Olds across the Tasman. There's a huge amount of

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Speaker 3: stuff going on in Australia at the moment, not least

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Speaker 3: of which is this defection from the Greens to labor

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Speaker 3: which is not going away. And the Australians have restarted

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Speaker 3: the EU free trade talks. We got across the line

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Speaker 3: on that. They didn't because they thought it was a

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Speaker 3: dodgy deal, which I think it probably was, but because

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Speaker 3: the Americans had gone so weird on them, they've fired

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Speaker 3: those talks back up. So anyway, Murray Old's later on

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Speaker 3: in the program.

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Speaker 2: The News and the news Makers the mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

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Speaker 2: and rural news talks.

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Speaker 1: Head Bee.

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Speaker 11: The longer, do it for you?

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Speaker 3: This is distorted as well or is that just me?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 6: You're definitely distorted so many ways.

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Speaker 3: We played something the other day that was distorted in allegedly.

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Speaker 3: I think from memory that was supposed to be distorted.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether this is this is garbage. That's

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Speaker 3: the name of the band. Let now that something's happened,

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Speaker 3: because it was last week with Joe Jonas. The album

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Speaker 3: was Music for people who Believe in love, and I

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Speaker 3: see it at the time, I said, that's the album

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Speaker 3: title of wear, Music for people who believe in love.

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Speaker 3: What a great oldent title. And yet here we are

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Speaker 3: presenting to you this morning. Listen to this. Let all

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Speaker 3: that be sorry, Let all that we imagine be the light.

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Speaker 3: I think that beats music for people who believe in love.

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Speaker 3: Let all that we imagine be the light. That's the

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Speaker 3: name of the album. There are ten tracks. It's got

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Speaker 3: a signature blend of jagged guitar riffs, elastic bass, precision drumming, electronic,

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Speaker 3: kissed ato, sphees, all of it. Ten tracks, forty five

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Speaker 3: minutes and sixteen seconds.

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Speaker 2: The Week in Review with two degrees bringing smart business

1288
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Speaker 2: solutions to the table.

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Speaker 3: Kate Hawksby's with us, good morning to you, good morning,

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Speaker 3: and Tim Wilson's with us, good morning to you.

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Speaker 22: Good morning and congratulations, well done, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 23: You speak congrats. I've put up on my Instagram photos

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Speaker 23: of you and your outfit and us at the awards

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Speaker 23: and your award, but I'm just pretty sad I didn't

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Speaker 23: get a shot of Sam and his Vietnamese suit.

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing about Sam in his Vietnamese suit is

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Speaker 3: he started it last year. He's wearing it again today,

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Speaker 3: and that started last year. Because I can't white started

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Speaker 3: last year. But anyway, because I wasn't there and I

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Speaker 3: couldn't was that, yeah, I couldn't see it, and so

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Speaker 3: he brought and.

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Speaker 11: The suit cost for five dollars or something.

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Speaker 3: Well, this was the story you missed last night because

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Speaker 3: you went there to what I hadn't realized last year

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Speaker 3: with a green suit was though the one hundred and

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Speaker 3: ninety nine he had paid for it, he actually got

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Speaker 3: two suits for one hundred ninety nine. So the second

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Speaker 3: suit he debuted last night, which was an unusual silver,

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Speaker 3: and so I think, let's well, maybe it was the lighting,

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Speaker 3: but it was an unusual silver with a sheen. I

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Speaker 3: don't know whether it was what.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 23: Mike made Mike during his acceptance speech raised that told

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Speaker 23: that story and then made Sam stand up on no suit,

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Speaker 23: which he did to rousing applause from memory. He did

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Speaker 23: that the last time. So poor Sam.

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Speaker 11: That's good.

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Speaker 22: It's good that he's it's good that he's he's actually,

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Speaker 22: you know, sharing the limelight with the man who keeps

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Speaker 22: and caffeine. It the subject of a bullying and you,

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Speaker 22: Scott stood up as well, Kate as the as the man,

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Speaker 22: as the woman, pardon me, who grounds him?

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Speaker 13: Grounds the man.

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Speaker 3: Exactly what I can't say? Just quickly before I got

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Speaker 3: she said, yeah, she said, Unfortunately, Tim, she said, just

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Speaker 3: remember being humble. I think it went wellcated.

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Speaker 11: And you said, you said, what's that word? Again? I'm

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Speaker 11: sorry I forgot.

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Speaker 6: The first thing. Literally, the first thing he said was

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Speaker 6: I guess I won this because I'm good.

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Speaker 19: Exactly.

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Speaker 13: I saw that.

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Speaker 11: I was like, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 13: Again.

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Speaker 3: The important point to make is Sam actually won. Sam

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Speaker 3: and the team won as the best whatever they call

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Speaker 3: the production team of the year. Yeah, so they actually.

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Speaker 23: Won the Glynn and Sam because they they're the real

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Speaker 23: story behind you, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: And do you know what I did?

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Speaker 13: Katie?

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Speaker 3: Then? And I felt sick for the rest of the night.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think you and so I thought, oh jeez,

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Speaker 3: that's you know, I thought I have done that. So

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Speaker 3: it's like one of those you.

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Speaker 11: Should have reclaimed the mic. Just grab a full glass

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Speaker 11: and go. I just want to add something. Come on.

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Speaker 3: A couple of names that people will know on this

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Speaker 3: radio station that sort of sort of fly below the radar.

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Speaker 3: Malcolm Jordan got a I don't know what they call it,

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Speaker 3: something like a Services to the Industry Award. And so

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Speaker 3: Malcolm's on the station a lot, and if you listen

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Speaker 3: on the weekend and stuff, and he's been around forever

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Speaker 3: and so he was thoroughly deserving of that because he's

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite broadcasters. He's one of those he's

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Speaker 3: one of those people who can do everything, and so

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Speaker 3: that's that's a skill, of course. And so he got

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Speaker 3: his Services Never got his Services to the Industry Award two.

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Speaker 3: So so everyone every year goes because never never always wins.

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Speaker 3: Amazing is amazing.

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Speaker 23: She won Best Newsreader for like the eleventh year.

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Speaker 3: But the problem with doing that is everyone goes Neva's

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Speaker 3: won again, as though it doesn't count for anything, which

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Speaker 3: it does. You don't win by default.

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Speaker 22: Now this sounds this sounds like someone who may also

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Speaker 22: have one sort of eleven such accolades who perhaps because

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Speaker 22: he doesn't have enough humility, doesn't get enough attention.

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Speaker 3: I agreed Marcus. So Marcus won, You're right, he won

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Speaker 3: for about the ninth fourteenth year in a row, and

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Speaker 3: so he doesn't get the the the accolades he deserves.

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Speaker 3: And the other one was Jamie McKay, And Jamie McKay

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Speaker 3: does the country. Yeah, And so Jamie McKay got a

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Speaker 3: lifetime award, which is you know, which is, which is

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Speaker 3: a real honor. And so his story is fantastic. And

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Speaker 3: he bought a radio station and he sort of said

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Speaker 3: I need to bring some radio to the people and

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Speaker 3: talk about the country to the city and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: And so he got on for that. And those are

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Speaker 3: the sort of people you want to celebrate because they're

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Speaker 3: the real heroes of the industry. As far as I

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Speaker 3: can work out, I.

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Speaker 23: Think everybody that attended needed an award for sitting through

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Speaker 23: the ceremony, which felt like the.

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Speaker 3: World's longest ever event. On that note, it was well

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Speaker 3: too long, is the answer? Way too long? But I'll

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Speaker 3: come back with some numbers for you on that. In

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Speaker 3: the moment the team past eight.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast full show podcast on Iheard Radio

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Speaker 2: powered by News talks Hip.

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Speaker 3: News Talks It be caught a past day.

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Speaker 2: It's a week in review with two degrees fighting for

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Speaker 2: fear for Kiwi business.

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Speaker 3: The good news is Jason has turned up. Jason the

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Speaker 3: Big Boss has turned up this morning. So that's good.

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Speaker 3: He was, Yeah, so he was claiming, listen to this.

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Speaker 3: This is so lame. He was claiming, as was late,

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Speaker 3: why is he taking an uber? Join the dots? Why

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Speaker 3: is he taking the next morning?

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Speaker 13: Question?

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Speaker 3: Ask yourself the question, Tim, Why is he taking an

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Speaker 3: uber in the next morning?

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Speaker 11: Maybe there's a bit of overflow from the night before.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything far but from me, Mike, I

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Speaker 3: couldn't Sam the stick of news talks it, but it's

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Speaker 3: not a very bad way of putting at Sam's the

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Speaker 3: trendset and not the follower. I see Hosk was wearing

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Speaker 3: a tie. I was wearing a tie. Story behind the tie.

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Speaker 3: I had to drive down to the center of Auckland

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Speaker 3: to get a tie as in the center center of

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Speaker 3: Auckland and was reminded yet again what a complete and

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Speaker 3: utter cluster. You know what downtown Auckland is and how

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Speaker 3: they've completely and utterly ruined the place.

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Speaker 11: Robe Cones.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations on your reward. More importantly, Katie looked spectacular. Could

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Speaker 3: you please pass that on to her?

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Speaker 15: Oh thing?

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Speaker 3: And they're correct, you did. You did look absolutely fantastic, just.

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Speaker 11: Glorious about me.

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Speaker 6: About me, Well, we.

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Speaker 3: Made it about you, just for a little bit, and

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Speaker 3: so there's nothing. There's nothing.

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Speaker 22: That's because that's because he didn't make it about her

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Speaker 22: last night, as you should.

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Speaker 3: Trying to rectify some stuff as we speak. I'm having

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Speaker 3: a coffee this morning, by the way, it's very important

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Speaker 3: that people understand this. I'm having a coffee this morning

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Speaker 3: from the coffee fund. And the coffee fund got boosted

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Speaker 3: this week because I had a bit with Sam, who

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Speaker 3: knows nothing about support or clothing, but he lost and

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Speaker 3: so the fifty dollars he lost went into the coffee fund.

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Speaker 3: So I'm having the coffee from the coffee.

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Speaker 11: Fund pay that.

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Speaker 23: That's not fair. No, that's not fair, he said, Sam

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Speaker 23: did say off here that you liked to suit you

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Speaker 23: said this morning.

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Speaker 6: It's not bad.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, that's high praise.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, what a straight up and didn't lie. I said nothing.

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01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 3: I said nothing. I think the exact words were.

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Speaker 13: Generous.

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 11: Come on, it's not as bad.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was under fluorescence at like three this morning.

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Speaker 3: It was under fluorescence and it didn't look as bad

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Speaker 3: as I thought. So that's that's That's the best I

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Speaker 3: could come up with. So there you go. Now, what

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 3: else do you want to talk about?

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Speaker 23: Well, I'm finding the divorce, the very public divorce between

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Speaker 23: Trump and Musk really awkward.

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Speaker 19: I'm not enjoying it.

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Speaker 23: I never think public divorces are.

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Speaker 3: A good Well, no, I didn't. Really, does it change

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Speaker 3: your mind?

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Speaker 22: Mechanic two volcanic figures, huge egos. Also with with he's

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Speaker 22: very he's very very thin skin, so really wounded.

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Speaker 11: It was always going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Correct. Does it bother ukde that he's in the Epstein files?

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Speaker 23: Well, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't

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Speaker 23: on the island. I mean, wasn't everybody who was somebody

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Speaker 23: of that time of celebrity status on that island at

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Speaker 23: those parties. I don't think it necessarily means he was

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Speaker 23: involved in sex trafficking or whatever, But I mean, who

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Speaker 23: would know.

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Speaker 3: I would have a clue, But why haven't the paper

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Speaker 3: has been released?

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Speaker 23: Who would know?

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Speaker 3: He said, he'd released the papers, had release all the papers.

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Speaker 22: Maybe that maybe they will be released now you reckon,

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Speaker 22: I don't know when are you guys? Are I suppose

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Speaker 22: you have pre ordered to send us book.

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Speaker 23: So disappointed not to have been sent as signed copy.

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Speaker 3: We're still we haven't. We haven't heard back from the

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Speaker 3: interview request. We asked for an interview, and.

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Speaker 11: Well, good for you for asking. Good for you for asking.

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Speaker 3: He definitely didn't ask, tim Wa.

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Speaker 22: I thought, you know what I thought was really the

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Speaker 22: best review I've read has been by Liam Here, which

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Speaker 22: is like, actually it goes into the fact that her

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Speaker 22: more he believes her Mormon. Liam Here, he's a comitator,

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Speaker 22: he's been around, so I'll send you the links he's.

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Speaker 3: Last time, that's another joke to him. Last time I

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Speaker 3: said who's he? He took to social media and got

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Speaker 3: really upset at me that I'd never heard of him.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, he's a New Zealand political commentator anyway, Cary, No.

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Speaker 22: The point, the interesting content, or the point that he

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Speaker 22: makes is that he suggests her Mormon background had affected

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Speaker 22: her leadership style in the sense that and I don't

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Speaker 22: know because I'm not Mormon, but they have a preference

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Speaker 22: for non confrontation, and that actually plays out. She refers

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Speaker 22: to a lot in the book, and it might explain

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Speaker 22: why she didn't want to keep talking to you during that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't handle that. No, No, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: But one also what I what I've discovered in life

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Speaker 3: and continually fascinated about, and we saw a little bit

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Speaker 3: of it. I think you'll concur last night, Katie, is

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Speaker 3: people's inability to be self aware. And part of it

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Speaker 3: is if you're like that, you go to yourself. I'm

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Speaker 3: about to potentially lead an entire country, and I'm a

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Speaker 3: bit anxious as a person, and I don't really like confrontation,

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Speaker 3: and I prefer to cuddle people. I'm wondering if these

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Speaker 3: qualities are going to lead in a direction that will

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Speaker 3: serve me well ultimately. And then at that point, of course,

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Speaker 3: because you're self aware, you go absolutely, I'm not remotely

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Speaker 3: suited for this job. It's why I, for example, have

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Speaker 3: never ended up in management, because I don't handle people well.

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Speaker 3: I've got no patience, I've got no time for people,

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01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: and broadly speaking, I'm a pain in the ass. So

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: I've worked out.

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 13: So both Sam and Glen need a pay rise.

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 22: Yeah, and so with that self awareness, that's why you

1510
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 22: will dutifully accept accept your lot and appear at the

1511
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 22: next radio awards.

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Speaker 11: Is that right?

1513
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 13: Is that what I'm hearing?

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01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 3: Going again?

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01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 23: I think it's a.

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01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,799
Speaker 11: Never where's the self awareness? Where's the self awareness?

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: Self? Don't even get me started? Do you mind having

1518
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: six million people?

1519
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 13: Just quickly?

1520
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: You too? By the way, this population increases six million

1521
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 3: a good number for.

1522
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 22: You, seven million, twelve after firsteen twelve to fifteen million.

1523
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 13: I don't like.

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01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 23: I don't like the fact they're all in Auckland. I

1525
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 23: feel like the whole six million are in are in

1526
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 23: the CBD and in the suburbs, and you can't you

1527
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 23: literally cannot move in Auckland anymore.

1528
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 19: So I feel like they're all.

1529
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: So if you could evenly distribute six to twelve million

1530
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 3: people around the country the problem, you'd be.

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01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 11: Happy, absolutely.

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: Okay.

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 22: So yeah, that's this whole, this whole viewer is better

1534
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 22: as rubbish. Humanity is not a scourge. More people are better.

1535
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 22: I have more people.

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: But it's a quality issue also, there isn't it. I mean,

1537
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: quantity versus quality. I'd go for I'd go for seven

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01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: quality over twelve Bogans.

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Speaker 22: Just thought, Yeah, it depends as long as the Bogans

1540
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Speaker 22: are driving. He mess.

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Speaker 3: It's a hemi, not a HEMEI. But God bless you

1542
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Speaker 3: for raising Engine Talk eight twenty two at news Talk said.

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Speaker 3: day of the year. That's Chemistry House asking Tasmania. It

1562
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 3: looks like it's fallen the government. We told you about

1563
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 3: this this time yesterday. So they were having they've got

1564
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: a minority government, liberal government, minority government, and they put

1565
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: a boat of no confidence to the floor, had a

1566
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 3: big debate about it, continued and finished that debate yesterday.

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01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 3: Had a boat in the year. It's over. So that's

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01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: a pain. So we'll talk to Murrayold's about that night.

1569
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 3: We'll come back to a very good story I read

1570
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 3: this morning, and this is an outside looking in and

1571
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 3: I'm always a very big fan of you're a regular

1572
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 3: knowing this outside looking in because we're a bit down

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01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: on our country at times, and there's a lot to

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01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 3: be down at on at the moment. But it's the

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 3: story of a woman who came to New Zealand from

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Speaker 3: America and she was only going to stay for a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks. And this has been published around the

1578
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: world this morning as we speak, and when you read it,

1579
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: it's a very uplifting story because it's outside looking in

1580
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: what others see of this country, So tell you more

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 3: about that in just a couple of moments before we

1582
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 3: go to Murray Olds. Meantime news is next to newstalk s.

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: Report you need to start your day from Mike asking

1584
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, talks,

1585
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Speaker 2: head be.

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Speaker 3: Wed or one in the ongoing fascination I have with

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01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 3: the world media. So, the Australian cricket team is touring

1588
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: the Caribbean for the first time in a decade. So

1589
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 3: who's got the rights for that to broadcast it? Answer ESPN?

1590
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: So one, what's ESPN interested in a minor tour by

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: an Australian cricket team in the Caribbean. Four Two where

1592
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 3: are the Australian networks? Well seven bid seven lost out

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 3: seven's lobby the federal government for tweaking the anti siphoning stuff,

1594
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 3: and so they have anti anti siphoning means you've got

1595
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: to have major sports available on free to wear. The

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01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 3: ashes is part of it, The Melbourne Cup is part

1597
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: of but obviously a tour of the Caribbean isn't. So

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01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: it's interesting that ESPN. And so then you ask the

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 3: question is ESPN and their budgets? So large that they

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01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 3: literally found a bit of parking meter money at the

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01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 3: back of the sofa to out bid seven, who is

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01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 3: a linear television product just don't have enough money to

1603
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: bid for sports rights anymore. Because this sort of broad

1604
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 3: argument is applicable in this country as well, of course,

1605
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 3: and whether or not we're going to end up watching

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01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 3: everything on an ESPN or something or a dizone for

1607
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: the rest of our lives, and that's where sports rights

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 3: are going. Twenty two minutes away from.

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01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 15: Nine International correspondence with ends in eye insurance Peace of

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 15: mind for New Zealand businesses in Australia.

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Speaker 8: Marie Old's good morning, Michael, very good morning, and I

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 8: understand congratulations an order with the Cracked team at breakfast

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01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 8: time dominating the awards last night.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was very good. You're very kind. Thank you

1615
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 3: very much and I don't think we could have done

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01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: it without your contribution because they tell me the the

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01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 3: Friday quarter hour is just something to behold. Tom Connell,

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Speaker 3: you know the name Tom Connall, the guy works for

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01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 3: Sky News. Yeah, I know he does. I love him

1620
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: because he does these numbers on the election at a

1621
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: screen in a way like John King at CNN does

1622
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 3: absolutely brilliant nub and following his dissertation on this final

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01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 3: seat which finally got to sign and from what I

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01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 3: saw of him yesterday or the day before, can't remember,

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Speaker 3: it's I don't think it's over, is it. I mean,

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01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: if you were really exercised, you could take it to

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: a judge who would go, have you got some votes?

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 3: I can look at and they'll go, there's a bag

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Speaker 3: of sixty five, check those out. We think this s

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Speaker 3: us and off we go again. Is that right or not?

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01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 19: Well?

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Speaker 8: Basically what's happened the very final seat in the election,

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Speaker 8: the federal election of just over a month ago now,

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Speaker 8: and it's pretty much an emphatic footnote on what has

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 8: been the collapse of the Liberals under Peter Dutton. The

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 8: Sydney seat of Bradfield Liberal held for seventy five years.

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 8: Liberal over here, of course means you know, right wing,

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01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 8: stroke conservative. So one hundred and twelve thousand votes Mike

1639
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 8: were cast in that election, in that electorate it's always

1640
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 8: been liberal.

1641
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 13: The final margin just twenty six votes.

1642
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 8: The Liberal candidate was absolutely perfect, hyper intelligent, super successful

1643
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 8: career MENI in heritage, she's young as well, very art

1644
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 8: and even she could not get up in this once

1645
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 8: rock solid Liberal seat. So there's an independent stroke. Teal

1646
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 8: Labour now has ninety four seats in the parliament one

1647
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty seat parliament. The Libs and Nationals coalition

1648
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 8: will have forty three thirteen on the cross bench. But

1649
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 8: as I say, the Liberal Party now has forty days

1650
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 8: to decide whether or not to spend the money to

1651
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 8: go to the Court of Disputed returns. Forty days to

1652
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 8: have a think about it, because it's not going to

1653
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 8: be cheap. You also have to go, as my understanding,

1654
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 8: you have to go to the High Court as well

1655
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 8: to seek leave to go to the court. So there's

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Speaker 8: a very elaborate process. It will not be cheap, as

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01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 8: I say, will the Liberals bother, But.

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Speaker 3: It's one of their favored seats and it has been

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01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 3: their seat and you want to if you can do something,

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01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: you probably I think that would be what's driving them

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Speaker 3: in Tasmania. See the vote of no confidence super interesting.

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01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 3: But who in Tasmania wants to have another election given

1663
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 3: you had one last year.

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Speaker 13: Well that's a very good point.

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01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 8: But of course the vote of no confidence in the

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01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 8: minority the Liberal government down there and you know underline

1667
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 8: this it's the only liberal administration anywhere in Australia and

1668
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 8: now it's gone Rockcliffe. The Premier had to basically pull

1669
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 8: the pen yesterday when there was a no confidence vote.

1670
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 8: He went along to the governor said listen, we have

1671
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 8: to have an election. The budget's only a week or

1672
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 8: so ago, lots of debt. He wanted to sack public servant.

1673
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 8: It sounds pretty familiar. The big white Elephant football stadium

1674
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 8: as well, the minority government only in Powsands March last year.

1675
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 8: As you say, now there's a new election, but it's

1676
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 8: thought the Liberals will struggle to hang on to the

1677
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 8: fourteen seats they've got. I mean, it's a thirty five

1678
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 8: seat parliament, right, it's enough to fill a phone box

1679
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 8: down in Tasmania. They've only got fourteen seats of the Liberals,

1680
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 8: they're going to have few of them that when the

1681
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 8: election is finally done and dusted.

1682
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 3: Okay, this mushroom lady. On a scale of one to ten,

1683
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 3: how gripp does Australia still live? Ten being you couldn't

1684
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 3: be more gripped. One you couldn't kill us.

1685
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 13: Well as about nine and a half.

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Speaker 8: I reckon I mean she's being fileted in the witness

1687
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 8: box now by the prosecutor Aaron Patterson, of course, accused

1688
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 8: of three counts of murder murdering her in laws. According

1689
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 8: to her, they were still very close, her in laws

1690
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 8: and the sister of one of them, at a deadly lunch.

1691
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 8: Now she's been as I say, cross examined in forensic

1692
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 8: detail by the prosecution yesterday.

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01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 13: She'll be back in the box again today. Another two

1694
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 13: weeks of this.

1695
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 8: By the way, Mike, she denies she intentionally served death

1696
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 8: cap mushrooms in this lunch to the in laws. A

1697
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 8: better telling lies about buying and owning a vegetable dehydrate.

1698
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 8: No doubt your staff have one of those at the

1699
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 8: luxury accommodation.

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01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 3: Of course you and the bride have.

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01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 8: I've never seen one, but she admitted finally buying one

1702
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 8: three months before the deadly lunch and then dumping it

1703
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 8: after the lunch at the local tip. Also she admitted

1704
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 8: lying about having cancer. The prosecution alleges photographs of mushrooms

1705
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 8: and a set of scales proves Aaron Patterson was trying

1706
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 8: to work out just how much of the dried death

1707
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 8: caps that you would have to serve to kill the people.

1708
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 8: At the lunch, she admitted to carrying out several factory

1709
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 8: research to high photographs of butt rooms. I mean every

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01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 8: I mean honestly, you know, it's like it's.

1711
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 3: Like a murray. I said at the very start, I

1712
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: didn't think this was going to go that well for her.

1713
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 3: And I think I'm slightly but surely being proven correct.

1714
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: And I don't think I was a genius in coming

1715
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 3: to that particular conclusion. Oh yeah, this woman Dirinda Cox,

1716
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 3: though is I'm I'm on a campaign at the mark.

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 3: I'm just sick of low rent people. And I think,

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01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 3: Dirinda Cox, you can't wake up one morning as a

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01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 3: green and then ring elbow and go get a elbow?

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Speaker 3: Can I? But you know you're just like have some dignity,

1721
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: Well not much.

1722
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 8: Dignity of politics, you know that in the way you know,

1723
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 8: I mean speaking of dignity, we had on Radio National

1724
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 8: this morning, Debbie Na Riwa.

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01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 13: Packer No just take Yeah, the Australian audience was, for.

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01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 3: God's sake, Radio National, give me the rate, give me

1727
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 3: the ratings share that that particular operation has. Is it

1728
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 3: a one or two these days? One point five? Is

1729
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: it the old one point five share radio station rings

1730
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 3: up Debbie Nario a packer and bores Australians witless with her.

1731
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: Did she whine on about how unfair it was?

1732
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 13: Well, yeah, there was that assertion made.

1733
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 3: And how no one understand you do you realize and

1734
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 3: this is this is for the edification of your fellow Australians.

1735
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 3: You realize those people in the Marry Party don't even

1736
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: want to be in the Parliament. They don't think there

1737
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: should be a parliament. They think they should have their

1738
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: own country and their own parliament and their own rules

1739
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 3: and their own everything else. And we're sick of them.

1740
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 3: Did they have that bit in the interview?

1741
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 13: No, no, that did not come up in the end

1742
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 13: of EW. No.

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01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 3: Can you give Radio National one point five share my

1744
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 3: number and tell them I want to go on as

1745
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: as as the sensible voice of Middle New Zealand to

1746
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 3: give them a bit of what for and tell them

1747
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 3: what's actually going on here instead of their left wing

1748
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: nonsense that they clearly pedal to Australia. Hence they've got

1749
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 3: no audience.

1750
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 8: Don't hold that, brother, But look to get back to

1751
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 8: Cox right, I mean, it's just look at smells of opportunism.

1752
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 8: You know, gee, whiz, look what's happened at Labour got

1753
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 8: the landslide whin.

1754
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 13: I think I'd much rather be with them.

1755
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 8: And she's jumped across, saying I've always sort of felt

1756
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 8: a lot more comfy with with Labor. Yeah, of course

1757
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 8: you have, Darling, of course you have. So you know

1758
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 8: she's now a will sit as a Labor senator gives

1759
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 8: elbow more grunt in the Upper House of course, where

1760
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 8: things are decided, and you know it. Look, it does

1761
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 8: leave a nasty taste, doesn't it. You go to the election,

1762
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 8: you're standing for one party. A minute after midnight you say, oh,

1763
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 8: you know what, I've changed my mind that much rather

1764
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 8: be with the mob with all the seats.

1765
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: Super. It doesn't look good, super uncle. You go, well mate,

1766
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: we'll ketch up next. Frida appreciate it very much, Murray olds.

1767
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: And I mean, that's everything that's wrong with public radio

1768
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 3: and public broadcasting generally, isn't you sitting there with your

1769
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 3: non audience and you go, now, what can we do

1770
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 3: to entertain Australia over breakfast this morning? I know we'll

1771
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 3: ring up a reprobate in New Zealand and just have

1772
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 3: them on for fifteen minutes. I mean, she's ask Yourself

1773
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 3: fourteen away from nine the.

1774
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,440
Speaker 2: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

1775
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: Howard By News talks that be.

1776
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 3: MIC's and Queensland Liberal post of Palochet. It's very well

1777
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: spotted Chris Philly, that's correct.

1778
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 13: He won.

1779
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 3: They had an election last year and he won that.

1780
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 3: Back to this article I alluded to just briefly. You

1781
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 3: can look it up. It's on CNBC. It's just the

1782
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 3: outside looking in the things. So it's a couple who

1783
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 3: live one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars. This is

1784
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 3: the headline. Hundred and thirty two thousand. That's American, so

1785
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: you translate that, it's about two hundred and twenty thousand

1786
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: New Zealand dollars. So they're doing well. The couple on

1787
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty so to one hundred ish each.

1788
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 3: They live on in what the headline calls the Hamptons

1789
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 3: of New Zealand. So this is an article that goes

1790
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 3: out all over the world. Her name is Phoebe Merrick.

1791
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 3: She lives on Waikiki, which is an island off Auckland.

1792
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 3: She thought she'd only be there for a couple of months,

1793
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 3: this was June of twenty three, planned to work out

1794
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 3: a summer internship at a winery. This cannot be real,

1795
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: she said, This cannot be regal. I just thought it

1796
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: was so beautiful. Two years later, she's still there, getting

1797
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 3: ready to move into a new house with a boyfriend.

1798
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 3: Reuben grew up in the area. He's local. She's twenty two.

1799
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 3: He's twenty two. Rather freelance marketing and social media manager.

1800
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 3: He runs his plumbing business. Together. They make two hundred

1801
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: and twenty thousand dollars and they just wax lyrical about

1802
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 3: New Zealand and how wonderful New Zealand and how magical

1803
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 3: New Zealand it is. And so it's always good to

1804
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: hear from people who from the outside and arrived and

1805
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 3: loved the place. Barry Humphreys, by the way, when I

1806
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 3: came back to the show this year, there was an

1807
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 3: auction of Barry Humphrey's art that I sort of bored

1808
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 3: you whitless with because we sort of did it live

1809
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: because it happened to be at an auction house in

1810
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 3: London at the time, and we ended up buying nothing

1811
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 3: because all the estimates were about ten thousand percent out,

1812
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 3: and so it became a joke. Anyway, there was more

1813
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 3: Barry Humphreys art auctioned off this week in Sydney, ninety

1814
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 3: eight objects, and they raised four hundred and seventy seven

1815
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, which is not as much as they raised

1816
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 3: in London. London they raised ten million. The opening lot

1817
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 3: was a watercolor framed im penned by Humphreys of Dame

1818
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 3: Edna that went for seventeen thousand dollars. It had an

1819
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: estimate of three. So the same column was being played.

1820
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: They thought it said it to go for three. It

1821
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 3: went for seventeen, more than a thousand registered bidders. Lot

1822
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 3: forty eight was Clifton Peugh's study of a young Humphreys.

1823
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 3: That was the most expensive piece that was completed in

1824
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty nine. One of the originals at that time

1825
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 3: was brought by the National Portrait Gallery. Anyway, went for

1826
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 3: thirty six thousand to a private collector. A Terrence Donovan

1827
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 3: photograph of Joanna Lumley signed for my darling hero Barry

1828
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 3: Humphreys from his adoring servant Joanna Lumley seven grand. So

1829
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 3: once again a lot of money raised. Everybody is the

1830
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 3: headline set, everybody wants a piece of Boutge.

1831
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 6: I would have thought the value would have gone down,

1832
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 6: saying it's how they seem to be having one of

1833
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 6: these things every five minutes.

1834
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 3: There's a supply demand issue that I think if I

1835
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 3: hold out to the third or fourth auction of his stuff,

1836
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 3: there'll be a bit of tap they find somewhere in

1837
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 3: an attic and I might be and ate away from nine.

1838
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range, Rover Villa News,

1839
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: togs Head b.

1840
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 3: Mike FM, Road to Ruh great, couldn't agree more. We

1841
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 3: went FM and Roderu the other day. It's going off.

1842
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 13: It's going to be.

1843
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: Huge in Road to Ruin. I've been arguing that case

1844
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 3: for years. I said, we've got to get to FM

1845
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: and roade RUA, and we got to FM and road.

1846
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 3: I can't is the next one in Picago? I think

1847
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 3: we're going in Picago soon? Well maybe not, Maybe I'm

1848
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 3: making that up. Could be nor given.

1849
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, given last night results for a certain station in Northland,

1850
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 6: I think we need to.

1851
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 3: Did they do well? Was there a station in Northland?

1852
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 3: Did well? Okay? Five minutes away from nine, it'll beIN.

1853
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: Trending now with the Chemist Warehouse, the Real House of Vitamins.

1854
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 3: So Dave Portnite is he owns a company called Barstool Sports,

1855
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: Big Company, and they run a lot of podcasts. One

1856
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: of the podcasts he appears on periodically is the unnamed show.

1857
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: The thing he did went viral in America. He kicked

1858
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 3: somebody out of one of his bars for holding up

1859
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 3: a sign saying if the Jews and so they were

1860
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 3: chatting about it today on the podcast. So that's now

1861
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: gone viral. That's been seeing twenty eight million times. Kirk,

1862
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 3: if you just want me to kick him out, not

1863
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 3: mention it, not care that this shut up? If you

1864
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: just want me to ignore, tell me.

1865
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 11: Don't tell me to shut up.

1866
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 3: Don't shut the fuck up.

1867
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 6: You balled? Okay, go ahead.

1868
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 13: How's that?

1869
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,799
Speaker 6: Oh it's killed. I'll never recover from that, Dave, go ahead, continue,

1870
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,799
Speaker 6: I'll never recover.

1871
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: Well, you're the one who like, oh, big boss man,

1872
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 3: don't tell I'll tell you work from me.

1873
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 6: Okay, go ahead, bets you work for me?

1874
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 3: Sure you bet for now?

1875
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 13: For now? Quitt well.

1876
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 3: Is a show or not the show? Like it is

1877
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: a show or not a show?

1878
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 6: If we can't have a conversation.

1879
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 3: You're an idiot. Okay, you're literally.

1880
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 10: Saying people should be allowed to make jew jokes, say

1881
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 10: whatever they want.

1882
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 3: Did that continue for a while? And so it went

1883
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 3: on for a while, and.

1884
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 6: I'm saying a thing, we need to rant things out.

1885
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 13: For a bit.

1886
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're a bit low key, like do

1887
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 3: I work.

1888
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 6: For you or do you work for me? You're little

1889
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 6: as that where show one guys?

1890
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 3: Speaking of speaking of podcasts, I I it's something like,

1891
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 3: I know Joe Rogan's huge, I get all of that.

1892
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: But I was watching a bit of Joe Rogan the

1893
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 3: other day with Jimmy car Jimmy Cars on the program

1894
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 3: is it next week?

1895
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1896
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 3: So Jimmy Carr's on the program next week And Jimmy

1897
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 3: Carr was on Joe Rogan the other day for three

1898
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 3: and a half hours. I mean, it's come on.

1899
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 6: I mean, Joe Rogan does find people very interesting, though,

1900
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 6: doesn't he?

1901
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 3: Do You do you think he honestly does? Really?

1902
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 6: I think he does. I think he just genuinely just

1903
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 6: go wow, just person passing by, I could talk to

1904
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 6: I only I could talk to anyone for three and

1905
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 6: a half hour.

1906
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't care who they are. I don't even think

1907
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 3: I could interview myself for.

1908
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 6: Three but you just talked to New Zealand for three hours.

1909
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 3: It's not three and a half anyway. That's you. Have

1910
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 3: a fantastic weekend. We'll see your Monday.

1911
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 13: Happy Day.

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Speaker 2: For more from The mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

1913
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 2: News Talk Set B from six am weekdays, or follow

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01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.